Patrick Feeney: Doomsday Prepping and What Rural Americans Really Think about Kamala Harris 01:44:39

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I don't think they wanted her. When you say, just for people who don't live in the region, when you say put the fucks to him, what does that mean? He was like giving them the middle finger. Oh, okay. Yeah. She is not qualified to do anything in my, I wouldn't hire her for a kindergarten art teacher. I wouldn't. I don't think anyone would. Yeah. I mean, how did she, that's another thing. I mean, I know how she got in because DEI or DIE or whatever you want to call it. But yeah, we got to get rid of those laws. Yeah.

Which laws? I don't know if they're laws. Are any of these things laws that these people are doing? Do you even know? No, I don't think so. I don't think they're laws. I just think they're spoken assumptions. I don't think you're getting a job at JP Morgan, if that's your question. Right. But I don't think that these things that people are doing are laws. I don't think they have to hire somebody because they're of color or a woman or there's no law saying you have to have a...

You have to have 39% of your employees have to be of color. There's no law, is there? I think the Justice Department will sue you if you don't. Will they? Yep, because too many white men is bad. They might write a constitution or build a functional country or something. Are there laws on the books now that say you have to do that? No, they're regulations so far as I know. They can sue you then? Yep. They would just sue you? Yeah, because it's prima facie discrimination. There's no black and white law saying you have to have so many people of certain...

color or race or gender working for you, right? I don't think passed by the Congress. Right. So if you had a company of 50. Because that itself would violate civil rights law. You can't discriminate on the basis of race, right? That is a law in the United States. So if I had an asphalt company and I had 50 employees, then, and I didn't hire somebody because, so a guy fills out an application, I don't hire him because he's got four OUIs and he doesn't have a dump truck license, but he happens to be of color.

Can he sue the asphalt company and say, well, he didn't hire me. Well, it happens all the time. Right. And do they win? Absolutely. They win. Wow. But there is no law saying. I don't know about the dump truck license or the four OUIs, though I think probably, yes, they'd win. But certainly it's very, very common for people who scored lower on the test that gauges whether you can do the job or not. Right, right. Still suing? Oh, absolutely. And win. No, absolutely. So they don't go by the test.

No, they haven't tested it. Okay, we had a bunch of cones set up and we had two dump trucks and these guys did the best on their test. Yeah, but what color are they? The cones? The cones are orange. I know that. So you've been saying for a long time that things are going to fall apart. You have been. I can't wait. Like for over a decade, you always say it.

It's coming, and when it does, these people are fucked. Yeah, they are. It does seem like a little less crazy prediction right now. Right.

I mean, they are falling apart if you look at the talk about looting. Yeah. What happens is the biggest thing with losing the energy grid, all the millions of scenarios that can happen. It's already happening. California. Well, California, exactly right. So what do you think about buying big plastic bins of freeze-dried food? Yeah, you should have. That's a short-term solution. It's not going to get you through the –

Through the Great Depression. Yeah. No, it's not. It's not going to get you through post-Civil War down south living. You know, it's going to get you through two weeks without power at most. You know, maybe a year if you get a whole stockpile of it. But no, you got to have a mindset of, can I live? Am I going to be able to live like I have to live when that time comes?

You know, like to simplify your life. Am I going to be, you've got, say you've got a daughter that lives in New York City. Okay, obviously she's not going to be able to live in New York City. It's going to be burned down and looted, which it almost is now. Yeah. Okay, is she going to be ready to come to, you know, New Jersey or Maine or where, New Jersey is probably still too close in that situation. I don't know. But Pennsylvania, Maine to live there.

Is she going to be able to say, okay, this has happened. We'll just use the Great Depression for a baseline. Great Depression has happened. Everybody's jumping out of the buildings in New York City. All right, we're going to hang out in Maine for 20 years and get our life back together. Is your family ready for that? Are everybody you're close to ready for that? Yeah.

No. Whether they're trained or not, the training doesn't matter. It's just in their mind. You got to be ready for that stuff. You got to always have that, you know, live like you live. I live very, very modern, do everything modern. Everything I got is power, everything I got. But in the back of my brain, I'm like, I might have to cut my firewood by hand.

Because I'm not going to be able to get any gas someday. Well, the fact that you used firewood in the first place suggests you're not totally modern. Right. So you burn firewood? Yeah, a lot. Probably eight cords a year. How much is eight cords? A wheeler load, a truckload. When you see the big truck going down the road, that's about eight cord. I'm just saying this for, I know how much that is. So you burn it for heat? Yep. And my father burns wood. I have an oil furnace backup. I bought 100 gallons of oil.

When I bought, when I moved into my house, which was 10 years ago. Yeah. And I still, I probably burned 10 of the 100 gallons. So. I just turn the furnace on every year to make sure it works. That's about it. So you burn your house on your farm. It's not tiny, but it's not huge. And you burn eight cords of wood. What does it take to prepare that wood? Yeah.

If I buy it tree length, which I have before, so the truck comes, it drops it off tree length. I would say with the machinery that I have, which is a hydraulic splitter and a dump trailer and a conveyor and a chainsaw and a tractor and all those stuff every farm has, I'd say a week. A week. If I don't do it straight, I'd do a couple hours after supper type stuff. But yeah, it would be a week. If I took a week off, I could get my firewood done.

If two weeks I could do mine and my father's together, probably. If I have to cut the tree down and drag it out of the woods, then it's probably two weeks.

So what is that just for people who don't cut their own firewood, eight cords of wood? How many cords does your dad have? About 35 trees is eight cords. And how many cords does your dad burn a week? Probably six, six to eight. We'll just call it eight. We each burn a load a year. Okay, so 16 cords of wood. Let's say you have it dropped off in front of your house with a truck and it's just tree length. No branches, but tree length.

What do you have to do to get it ready? You got to cut it to six. Well, I cut mine two foot 20 inches, but 16 inches. Most people, depends on your stove. You have to, so you, I pick it up with the tractor. I cut it with a chainsaw. I have a pretty good efficient system. So you got to cut it to length. You got to split it to size. So it dries. If it's small stuff, you don't have to split it. Round wood is the best. Um,

Unsplit wood, every time you split it, they say you lose 10% of the efficiency out of it because you've made it smaller. You know, a big chunk of wood burns really efficiently. Yes. So you always leave it big. And I always split it as I need it. You know, I'll break it down to where I can handle it, but I don't break it down really small to start with. And then when you're in the cellar, then you can, okay, I need some small stuff. You just split up what you need. Then you don't have a whole pile of small stuff that burns real fast. Right.

And then you got to stack it and dry it. That's the time-consuming thing. You can't burn it green. It takes about a year to dry wood. Really? Yeah. So you have, I guess, 32 cords of wood sitting out? Yep, I do. I got mine. I got next year's is all done. My father is working on his. He's got next year's all done. We had his next year all done this winter in August.

I'm doing his year after that right now and then this winter I'll do mine next year. I can actually dry it. If I had it done in the winter, it will be ready in the fall. So when I say a year, it's like a season.

It dries pretty fast at my house, and I stack it so it dries. So that's with machines. Well, if you were doing it by hand, I can't imagine. Like, you see the pictures of the old-timers out there with the cross-cut saw in the mall, and they were probably those old farmhouses I've heard 10, 12 cords in winter. Can you imagine doing that all by hand? Because they were heating with fireplaces. I mean, before wood— No, really, you're heating— An open pit, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Can you imagine cutting that all by hand? So how would you cut 10 cords with no gasoline or diesel? You'd have to get a sharp saw and just go to it the old way. You know, you'd have to have more kids. That is kind of the answer. Start breeding. So could you, I mean, how long do you think that would take you? Oh, that would take, that would just be, I think it would just be an ongoing thing. I think like every day after supper, you would just go out for an hour and cut everything.

maybe a day's worth of wood. You wouldn't want to overwhelm yourself. If you don't have machinery, that's kind of how you do every kind of gardening chore or firewood chore. You just kind of try not to overwhelm yourself and make it a chore. So of all the things, just think of if you're driving home and you see a tree on the side of the road.

that, you know, is free for the taking. It fell down or whatever. And you just stopped and grabbed it. If you did that every day in your travels, you'd probably have enough firewood. If you just stopped and saw every tree on the side of the road and cut it up, threw it in the back of your truck. And that's what we used to do in the old days. We didn't drive by a tree. You know, we would stop and cut it up and throw it in the truck. Did you get paid by the town for cleaning up the roads? No. Oh, my God.

So of all the things that worry you, power grid going down is probably going to be at the bottom, right? Yeah, no, not big. Other than food storage, my freezer. I don't know if the, you know, I think things would have to really get bad to not be able to get any gas, gasoline and diesel at the stores. I don't know. You know, it depends on how bad things got. If it was like a war situation, it would be bad. Right, if the refinery shut down. Yeah, if the refinery shut down and how much...

You know, you're not going to waste that gas mowing your lawn when you need to run a generator, you know, for your food. You're not going to drive, you're not going to just drive for the sake of driving somewhere if you've got to have that gas to live off. I don't know how bad it's going to get, but you can store food without power. You can can the meat like they did.

You can butcher, you know, get all your neighbors together. Okay, we're going to butcher a cow today. Yeah. You know, so you cut it up accordingly. So that's how they did it in the old day before refrigeration. The butcher butchered things accordingly so the meat would get used up fast enough. And small animals, small animals were developed in the olden days, we'll call them, a lot of times for refrigeration purposes. If you're one family out in the middle of the...

you know, planes living, you're not going to butcher a cow in the middle of July. Right. You know, you're going to butcher a sheep that you can eat. Exactly. Fast enough. Before it spoils. Before it spoils. Or you're going to can it. But canned meat's not my favorite thing. Yeah, you get botulism. Which we now think of as like the core ingredient in Botox, but it's also. I think people, they're just, I wouldn't say prepping would be a more of a, just a way to start thinking about things.

Like, is your, you know, like I said, is your family ready? I mean, it's hard to imagine it if you've been a beneficiary of 100 years of modernity and ease and wealth. Right. We've all had an easy life. That's exactly right. I've had a super easy life as far as that kind of stuff goes. I mean, we all work hard and do things, but...

So what do you store now? And I should say for the, I didn't even introduce you. This is Patrick Feeney lives in Maine has had every kind of job imaginable and lives basically from my perspective, you live pretty close to off grid. Like you produce most of your food at home on your farm animals. You've got a pretty amazing, a grow operation, you know, for how many different

How many different vegetables do you grow? Oh, I don't know. I'm more of a McDonald's french fry type of guy. Your wife. My wife grows, yeah, everything you can imagine. Lettuce, beets. I like corn on the cob. I like all the potatoes. I love potatoes. Yeah, any vegetable you can think of. Salad greens, carrots, greenhouse. But more than enough to live forever. Oh, yeah, she feeds. I mean, she supplies food to...

three restaurants in town and sells to 20 different people so yeah she supplies so you're good to go with food so oh yeah we're good to and i would say storage would not be a i would say foods almost storage is you gotta think that short term with any food you know you get your long-term storage the buckets that you buy yeah that's a lot i don't know are those really going to be good in 100 years you wonder you know have you ever eaten a 30 year old mre no i have it's not

Why were you eating 30-year-old emeralds? Just to try it. I found one a couple of years ago that I had left over from the army. It wasn't that good. I never really liked them in the army and I really don't like them now. 30 years from now, the same one. So what do you stockpile? Meat in the freezer. Now that could bite me in the ass because of the electrical grid. Freezer doesn't use much juice, so you could have your little thousand-watt Honda generator.

fire it up for an hour a day, plug your freezer in, get it cold. You know, you could do that for a while. What kind of meat do you store? I have mostly deer and moose. And if we haven't had, we got a pig, we got two pigs we just bought today. We're going to raise them. But boy, they look awful tasty, that size right there. I might just have a little pig party. Yeah.

Well, you texted me a picture and said they were so cute. You already think about eating them? Oh, yeah. They look, ooh, they're very tasty. Pig roast is very, very fun. No, it just, what a moose deer. Like I shot, I think I shot two deer, three deer last year. So that takes up some space. Not a lot of meat on a deer, you know. You really have to shoot a couple every year to make a difference unless you get a really big one. Moose, a lot of, you know, might get the moose last year. So that was, we still got the moose meat. Yeah.

What do you think of it? I love moose meat. That was a good moose. I've had good moose. I've had bad moose. That was a good one. What's the difference? Just the gaminess and the, you got, you got to, when you kill something, you really got to get it. Moose season can be warm. It was warm that day. It wasn't too bad, but it was probably 60 degrees. You got to hustle, get it on ice. You know, we drugged it right on the trailer and got it right to the butcher shop.

Right to the guy's house with the freezer. Yep. Hung it in the freezer and put it on ice when we were driving. You know, the whole process was fast. And that makes a huge difference with game. Did you, but you dressed it in the field? Dressed it in the field. We shot it like 8.30 and we were back at my parents' house by 11. After we tagged it, shot it, dragged it out, tagged it. My parents' house at 11. Mike and I took off for New Hampshire to our friend Doug with the...

cooler and he's got a meat cutting business. So we get, we were at his house by like probably three in the afternoon. How much of the dressing did you use a chainsaw for? I didn't have to. We were close to the truck. We then drove the four wheeler right to the moose. So we didn't have to cut the legs off or any of that stuff. Yeah. Just cut up the middle. I use the saw for the, I use a sawzall actually works good to cut the chest open with a sawzall. How much meat do you get out of that moose? You get

400 pounds of meat, I think, I believe, out of a 600, I think 700 pound moose. That was a big moose. Deer are about 200 pound deer will get you, in Maine we have 200 pound deer. So I say 150 pound deer would be average, would be 50 pounds of meat out of 150 pound deer. I'm just saying that, you know, maybe 75 pounds, you know, but a lot of bone, you know, like a cow, all bone and fur, you know, and head. Yeah.

So you got meat in your cooler. Do you have any bear in your cooler? Not right now. I'm not a huge fan of bear meat. I did shoot one a couple years ago, a nice small one, and it was very good eating. I shot that with snow on the ground, so I cooled it off fast. Bear meat spoils fast. They shoot bear in like, what, August? Yeah, because it's so greasy. Yeah, it is very, like, when you shoot something in August, you've got to be fast. I don't like watching the hunting shows where they go get the deer the next morning because

You know, you shoot the deer and they're in like Texas or I don't hunt in those places, but they're in like Texas and they shoot the deer. Oh, we'll go look for it in the morning. What happens if you leave? You see that if you watch the camera footage enough, the coyotes have chewed the ass off the deer already, you know, and it can't be any good. I've shot deer in like cold weather and found them the next day and they're already starting to stink, you know. Yeah.

Do you eat it anyway? Yeah. I mean, there's parts of it that are still good, but anything next to the belly. And if it ran away, it was probably gut shot anyway or not a good shot. Right. It's all full of bile and stuff. You want to have a nice clean shot if you can. I think you owe it to any animal. You try your best. Of course you do. Things happen. Of course you do. But you don't want to just start...

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Bear meat, I just cook that like steak. I cut those up into steaks. I'm kind of a throw-it-in-the-frypan type of cooker. I'm not much on recipes. I just like my, I like a little spices on my meat, cook it on the grill. I like a roast. I love a crock pot, stew. You can take bad cuts of meat and throw it in the crock pot and it will. You can put anything in the crock pot. Yeah, you can put anything in the crock pot and it tastes good. So those are very basic. But the idea that if you have a 308

you've got enough nutrition, could you hunt your way out of famine? I've heard that the old wood logger guys in the logging camps in Maine, would it be scurvy you would get without enough? Yeah. They ate all deer and moose meat. Yep. And they were getting sick, lack of vitamin C. But are there enough mammals in the woods to support? Right now, I think that the end of the, and I believe...

I forget who was talking about this. Might have been on one of your shows, but okay. When that might've been Ted Nugent. Okay. When the shit hits the fan, how long are they going to be? There's not, you know, in areas like we were pretty rural here, but we're not that rural. You can drive, you know, there's a road everywhere. We're not like Northern Maine. There's not going to be any deer really fast. Yeah. You know, the woods around here aren't that big in this particular area. These deer are going to be gone fast. Yeah.

You know, the mountains are, it's mountainous and it's a five mile hike to the next road, but five miles isn't that far. Yeah. And yeah, no, the game is going to go fast. It's going to be in the, during the depression, the game went fast early night in the, you know. In the thirties. I mean. My father said when he was a kid in the, that would have been the fifties. If somebody saw a deer where he grew up in Southern Maine, it was in the paper. I mean, yeah.

You know, it was just, if one popped out, it got shot. Yeah. And I think that's going to happen if things get bad. There's enough people that know you're not going to use self-preservation. No matter how messed up your life is or what's going on, if you're starving to death,

and a dog steps out in front of you, as much as you might like dogs, if your family's dying, guess what? Yeah. Dogs too. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't do it. Yeah. No way I would do it. I would probably die before I ate a dog. I would too. But in a famine, the neighbor's kids aren't safe. Right. I mean, people get really- That's the problem. I think that's something more to think about. Is it ever going to get that bad? I would like to think not. I like to think that people aren't like that. I don't know.

I mean, you travel more than I do and witness how cultures act. I don't think there's too many cultures that are like that now worldwide where they're just knocking people down and taking over. You know what I mean? Well, certainly the culture you grew up in is not like that at all. No. I don't know if there are places in the world where it's that bad. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, maybe the Middle East and that type of... Africa. Africa, yeah. So, I mean, you think it's... I mean, I can't imagine it would ever get that way here. I'd like to think people are nice enough that... Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Your brother's not going to bash me over the head because I got potatoes and he doesn't. Yeah. He's a tricky one, though. Be careful. You're looking at him off camera. Yeah. He might, if I had five gallons of gas, he might bash me. He might. Do you stockpile gas? It's hard to. I mean, I use so much of it. Yeah. I filled up cans the other day. I filled up my cans. I filled up your cans. And man, that doesn't last long.

So could you stockpile gas? I think it would evaporate. Yeah. You know, you could do underground tank would be the best. You got to keep the ethanol. You got to buy, you'd have to buy non-ethanol gas and stuff. You can add to the gas to keep it from spoiling. Diesel fuel spoils. It gets mold in it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. You'd have to, yeah, you could probably do it for a couple of years, like maybe five years. But why wouldn't you want ethanol in your gas when it helps the environment? Don't get going on that. Yeah.

You dunk it going on ethanol? Yeah. The number of lectures we've had about ethanol from you is like, so you're not, just to be clear, you're not for ethanol? No. You take a look at a gummed up carburetor from ethanol gas and it's not. The new motors are fine if it's fuel injected and you use it every day, it's not going to hurt anything. But yeah, anytime you store anything for a long, ethanol attracts moisture.

You know, it's what you mix with water so it will burn, but it attracts water also. Well, like in your boat, your boat's sitting right there. All the water molecules that jump off the water go into the gas. Yeah, I've noticed. Yeah. It'll wreck your motor. And it will happen to diesel fuel just like gas. Diesel fuel will soak up water just the way it is. It's natural. It's going to soak up water anyway. So what would you, before we get to what the mindset is, what would you stockpile?

Or what do you stockpile? I would ammo. Ammo's good. I think ammo's going to be a... If it becomes like we just talked about where, you know, we're only eight hours from New York City by car here. It's very, you know, they can...

Those people that get displaced to New York could easily end up here. We're not remote. I don't know what you would call this area. Suburban, I guess. Suburban. Suburbia. Maybe a little more remote than suburbia. Maybe, yeah. But it's not super remote. Right. It's not like – It's not a map. It's not like Dakwa, Maine. Right. Or anything like that. So I think those people are going to come here or just use New York City for a center point and go out.

500 mile radius from New York City. That's Ohio, Pennsylvania. Right. That's where they're going to go. They're probably going to go that way before they come to Maine. I would think so. Upstate New York, just because it's right there. Yeah. But that's cold up there. If you really had to survive to live off the land and it got that bad, you'd probably move out of Maine and go somewhere else.

Because the weather's just so bad. Just fertile. Yeah, exactly. You know, in the food, you know, in that. You wouldn't want to. Although we do pretty good farming in Maine, though. In the river valleys. Yeah, no, we do good right in this area. Yeah, yeah. Well, there's a big river here, so that's why. But I don't think there's going to be any lumber industry. You know, if things get bad, there's not going to be any fuel to make lumber with. Right. You know, you're going to be making earth houses, sod houses. You're going to be making log cabins again. I don't, can't fathom it ever getting that bad, but.

So you stockpile ammo. Yeah. And how to make ammo, you should be able to reload component. Primers are tough. You couldn't get primers for a long time. What calibers do you reload? All the ones that are expensive to buy, like .38 Special, .357. .45-70. .45-70, definitely, yeah. I like .65 Creed more. It's kind of a new caliber. It's a nice, soft-shooting, versatile. .308's the best.

Swiss Army knife of all and .30-06, .30-08, .30-06, any of those. The .30-30 is good. Yeah. You know, stay away from oddball calibers that are going to be hard to get. Like what?

Oh, I don't know. All these new ones that come out, 6.8 PRC and all, you know. Unless you reload, how much ammo are you going to need to feed your family? You're not going to, you know, if you've got 10 boxes of shells for your .30-06, you're going to feed the family for the rest of your life.

But it sounds like I asked you why you stockpile ammo and you didn't. You mentioned the exodus from New York City. Right. Yeah, I think that that's not that I would be able to. I mean, I'm 52 years old and pretty good working physical shape, but I'm certainly not an athlete by any means. I think 10 good strong guys from New York City could probably overtake me with all the ammo that I have. You think so? Yeah, I think they I might stop.

A couple of them, you know what I mean? But I'm not that physically, I'm not a combat-oriented type person. And I think they could definitely overtake a farm with numbers. Like a farm, say there was 10 people on my farm, they might stay away if there was 10 people on my farm. There's only me and my wife and my parents. Yeah, no, 10 people could, if it was just me, I think they probably could. Being realistic, we all like to think we're a badass, but you know.

And if they had guns, then they could really overtake you easy. Yeah, for sure. Because one guy with a gun is not going to be, it's not like the movies. You're not going to take out 10 guys with guns. No, you're probably not. No, especially if you've got like a 9mm pistol. You're not going to take out. Well, you don't believe in 9mm pistols? They're good for me to anybody in this room. But yeah, you're not going to take somebody across the field with it. 308 is good.

So if you have to have one gun, what is it? I'd have a rifle, .308 rifle. I'd have maybe a handgun for close combat, but I'd like the military to take out the enemy before they get that close, which you would have to.

If you let 10 people assaulting you get close enough within handgun range, you're probably not going to get all 10 of them. No, you're done. You're done. So you've got to get them while they're out of... And I'm not any kind of expert in this field at all, just from watching movies and stuff. You watch the guy in the movie that takes out all... No, that's not realistic. Yeah. No, you've got to get those people before they... At 100 yards out. 100 yards is a long ways. By the way, just...

parenthetically, the assassination attempt on Trump, 20-year-old kid, no training, formal training at all with firearms,

He's on the roof with a .223, and a cop comes up behind him. They have some kind of altercation. The cop backs off. The kid turns with iron sights and makes a 140-yard shot and grazes Trump's ear. Right. How would you assess that? That's a long shot with open sight. That's what I'm saying. That's what I thought. Oh, I could have done that with my .303. All these Navy SEALs on TV. I can't hit—I mean, a .30-30, which is a lot less accurate than a .223—

I mean, a nine-inch plate, a gong at 100 yards is that big. Yeah. If you can hit the gong open sights and make it ding, you're pretty proud of yourself at 100 yards. I can hit a deer at 100 yards, but a deer is bigger than Trump's head. Yeah. You know, and you aim for the deer's head.

I shot a deer last year really close with a 30-30. I aimed right where I was supposed to aim and I hit him way in the back, broke his, killed him dead. But I was, you know, a foot and a half off from where I was aiming. Right. You know, so a deer is a big target. So if you're lying on the roof of a building and all of a sudden a cop comes up, an armed police officer comes up and you somehow force him back.

your adrenaline is pumping like never before in your life. And then you turn and reset the shot at 140 yards with iron sights and you hit the man in the ear. That's pretty good. That's ridiculous, right? Yeah. No, that's, if he had a scope, then he would be, that would be, he probably, if he, that guy had a scope, Trump would be dead right now.

If the scope was sighted in. If it was sighted in, but also... 130 yards is, you know, they got the... All these guys will come on TV. Oh, that's an easy shot. Oh, it is. That's a boot camp shot. Really okay, but... It is, but... The kid never was in boot camp, so... Right, yeah. For the...

When you deer hunt, you never, well, in Maine, we don't shoot anything over 100 yards. There is no 100 yards in Maine. Yeah, they're at a logging road or something. You get to make a Hail Mary shot once in a while when you see a deer a long ways away. I shot a deer at a deer once that was 250 yards away. I hit it and wounded it, so I felt bad. I'm like, I'm not going to do that again. Did you find him? No, I never did. I got a little bit of blood. Actually, there was quite a bit of blood at first, and blood dried up really fast, and I tracked it.

And I found its bed. It was the snow. I went out 10 o'clock at night to find it. And it went down a big gully, up another big gully, down another, down and up, going right straight uphill. And I found a bed. It was bedded in in the snow. And there was a little spot of blood about the size of a quarter. So I think he was probably okay. I think I grazed him. Like Trump got a lot of blood when Trump got hit. There was quite a bit of blood. You know, he got grazed.

So you think, good. Well, I'm glad to hear you say that. I mean, all these experts on TV. Yeah, I mean, I can easily, I can shoot some, I couldn't shoot, I'd shoot a deer at 250 yards with my, with my, 6.5 Creedmoor. 6.5 Creedmoor, .308, .306. I could easily sight it. I don't sight my guns in for that range because I don't hunt that range. So they're sighted in for 100 yards. Now, whatever the, I'll just make these numbers up, but a .308 at between 100 and .308

say 300 yards, it's like 18 inches or something like that. It's quite a drop. So you really want to, unless you've got the scope with the little slash marks in it for different ranges. If you're into that stuff, that's fine. I'm sure you can do those shots, but most hunters don't do those shots. It takes a little bit of the sporting aspect out of hunting. For me, it does. But then again, there's a sporting aspect of, holy smokes, I'm a really good shot and I shot a deer at 600 yards. So that's the sporting aspect of that.

You know what I mean? You can be a sport by sneaking up to within 50 yards of the animal. You can be a sport by being a really good shot and shooting it. So that's just a personal preference. Is .223 flat out to 140? Yeah, pretty flat. Yeah. Okay. It's pretty flat. It's a light bullet. It does a lot of damage. Oh, I know it does. It's a zinger bullet. Ask anybody that's in the military, they'll tell you that they do a lot of damage. Yeah. You know, they claim like a – it's a –

I don't know what he had for bullets. They call the, they call the, whenever there's a mass shooting, they say he had special bullets, exploding bullets. All it is is he had like soft point bullets that you would use for deer hunting. Yeah. Which, you know, in a civilian situation, it does more damage to the deer because it mushrooms when it goes in and it tears apart more tissue. Right.

But it doesn't penetrate. Like a ball ammo penetrates a lot better. It'll go through a shirt or a leather jacket a lot better. And they claim on the ball ammo, like a .223, when it goes in there, it's going so fast it turns sideways. Right. It tumbles. I wouldn't want to get with any bullet. I agree with that. People spend too much time on the...

What kind of bullet to use and just make sure you're using the bullet that hits where you're aiming. You know, that's if you got your gun sighted in for... Are they advertised that way in the gun shop? This bullet will hit what it's aimed at? Yeah, no. And most people don't get overly fussy with accuracy.

You know what I mean? Which they shouldn't. You shouldn't, that shouldn't be your, you should just be happy with what, if you're shooting something at 25 feet and you can hit it at 25 feet, if you can hit a person at 25 feet,

With your little 9mm, you're not going to get any better than that. You're not going to hit a golf ball at 50 yards with a 9mm. No. I mean, I do, but that's an extraordinary skill. You can if you practice and practice and practice. I can hit with a pistol resting. You've shot with me before. We've hit little targets at 50 yards. Yep. Two out of six times. Yeah. But you know that time you miss, you're still...

Pretty close to it. You know, if you're hitting it two out of six times, the other four times, you're probably within a kill range of a... Of course you are. Of a person. So yeah, people get too carried away. But yeah, back to the 130 yard shot thing. Holy smokes. That's a long shot for most hunters. I don't know about nowadays, although you watch all the hunting shows and they're shooting the guns and the...

the feeder comes on, the deer comes out, you know, you hear the feeder in the hunting show. Then they leave the deer overnight. Yeah. Then they leave the deer overnight and go. So yeah, they do make long shots, but well, here's a secret that can get 50% cut right off your phone bill every month, which for a lot of Americans is a big savings. Here's the secret.

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So what's the mindset you were talking about? You said, when I said, what's successful prepping look like? You said it's changing your mind. Yeah, your mindset's the whole, getting your family ready for, I don't want to offend anybody doing this. Go ahead. I don't want to offend, I don't know. I consider myself a rich person. I mean, I get everything I want in life, but I don't want to offend people that say, people that depend on everything. Like the person that

into a house or something and the door doesn't open correctly and they call somebody to fix it instead of just lifting up on the door a little bit and closing it. Yeah. You know what I mean? They, oh my God, the door doesn't work. The door is broken. Just lift up on it a little bit. The house moves a little bit. It only does that in August, you know? Exactly. You know, those, you know, they just got to be ready for a world where everything's not taken care of for them. You know, there's no door dash. There's no,

There's no going to the store and getting your stuff already made because there is no store. Right. You know, there is no gas to get to the store. You know, and I really don't think it's ever going to get to that point in my life. I hope it doesn't. I mean, I don't want that. Yeah. I mean, we live in a beautiful world. You know, we're very relaxed. Earning and making money is the easiest part of life.

I mean, that's the simple part. That's all the other little bullshit that comes along with it that makes it hard. But yeah, you got to get the mindset of, okay, if things get bad, okay, I'm going to have to probably abandon your house in Washington, D.C.,

I don't know if you're going to get any money for it, if there is any money. Yep. You know, what is money? Right. It's just a bunch of stuff on computers. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't mean anything. Yep. And so, okay, I'm going to have to abandon my house in D.C. Might as well leave your car in D.C. or hope you got enough gas to get to Maine in your car and hope it's not a big funnel of, like I say, Maine's probably a pretty good place. Not too many people are going to go to Maine when it gets that bad. Right. They're going to go to Florida or South Carolina or...

For sure. For sure. They're not going to go to Maine. So we're probably pretty safe. Look at it that way. Look back at the earlier part of the conversation. No, we're probably pretty safe up here. Well, that's the hope. Bad weather keeps bad people out. Yeah. But yeah, you got to get that mindset of, okay, we're just going to have to live. Maybe practice it a little bit. Maybe instead of going on vacation to some resort in the Caribbean or the French Riviera or something, take your family to Maine.

you know, the woods to Subumac, you know, and stay there for two weeks in a tent and just have fun, you know, don't have them do fire drills or, you know, just go and shoot some tin cans with the 22 and, you know, make kind of make a game out of it. Like, you know, everybody will talk, well, I don't want to live in a world. If it gets like that, that will be awful. No, it's not going to be awful. You're going to survive. They it's happened many times in history, right?

I mean, many cultures have been through that type of... Well, so you're 52. I remember this area, you know, 50 years ago. And people kind of lived that way much closer to that, even then, not that long ago, really. Right, right. Yeah. I mean, did your...

Mom grew up in a house with running water? No, I don't think that the farm that they grew up in here didn't have running water. When they moved to Bethel, I don't think they got it shortly, but I think they had an outhouse. I know that. Yeah. I know they didn't have electricity. We had a bad well when I was a kid, which didn't faze anybody a bit. Our well would go dry in the summertime. I remember that. And wells were expensive, $5,000 to get a well drilled back then, probably $20,000 now.

So we just filled up five gallon buckets and that's how we flushed it. It wasn't a, I took showers at my grandmother's house, you know, in the summer when it was dry, not all year, you know, so it wasn't a, you know, maybe have your, maybe shut the water, maybe cut the power off to your house for a week when your family, just to see how it, you know, just not as a punishment or to be mean or anything like that. Like, hey, let's make some fun out of this.

You know, let's cook our food outside. You don't have to go kill a deer or anything like that, but buy a leg of lamb at the store. And let's just cook this on the fire outside. We're going to shut the electricity off for a week. You know, we'll read some books or, you know, maybe shut your phone off. I don't know if the phones will go bad when all the bad things happen. Who knows what's going to happen? We don't know what's going to happen. It could be a, what do they call the bomb when it wipes out all the electrical stuff?

Like the neutron bomb? Yeah, with all the electrical waves and the... Oh, the EMP attack. Yeah, EMP, yeah. Yeah, I don't... You know, that's probably... Would just really freak people out. Take a kid's cell phone away when he tries to go to school and see how they act. They don't like that very much. They don't? No. It's in the paper all the time. They're trying... Schools have policies that the kids aren't supposed to have the cell phone in school, which is obvious. Why should a kid have a cell phone in school? Yeah. And the schools can't take the cell phones away from the kids. They're like, it's not...

It's not going well for them. Really? His kids are so addicted to it. Yeah, and the parents are like, no, my kid has to have the cell phone. So now they're making the kid try to get the kid to keep the thing in the locker during class. So in between class, they just go to their locker and get out the cell phone. Whose kid can afford a cell phone? That's what I'm saying. You know what I mean? And they're talking about, and this is the news. I don't have kids, so I don't know. Maybe it's a different world we live in, and I'm not up to date on that. But why does an eighth grader have a cell phone?

Well, because they're only $1,000. You know, who can afford a cell phone for an eighth grader? You know, working, or who wants to? Who would want to waste their money? Why does the eighth grader need us? The school gives them computers. They all have a laptop. Right. The politicians did that, so every kid has a laptop. Right.

Then the kid's parents were like selling, pawning the lap tops to buy drugs with. That was funny. Oh, you liked that, huh? It was pretty cool because we knew it was going to happen, right? So, yeah, get your family ready. I mean, interrupt you, but just to finish that other thing is get your family ready. Just have them, and don't make a work thing out. Don't make doing firewood a chore or something, you know.

You can't have fun today because we have to do firewood. We're going to have fun today and do firewood. Play some music while they're stacking the wood. You get six of your family members together to do the firewood. It goes pretty fast. Did you do firewood as a kid? Oh, yeah. I loved cutting wood. I love firewood. I hate painting, but there are certain times when I don't mind painting if I just want to forget about something. Simple little chores like that are...

So, like, weed whacking. The best. Chainsawing. Just going through the woods and cutting up a bunch of dead trees with the chainsaw. I used to go after, you know, after tapings if I was feeling tense to go out in the woods and cut, as you know. But then I put that ethanol gas in my chainsaw. Then you got the electric chainsaw. I got the electric chainsaw. Do you remember that? That was fun, though.

I mean, it was fine. The electric chainsaw was fine, but... Good for about an hour. It's good for about an hour. That's exactly right. Yeah. No, so make a game out of things. Like, don't, you know, buy your kid a dirt bike. That's fine. Yeah. You know, but don't...

I had dirt bikes and snowmobiles when I was a kid, but I remember my, and I was around my grandfather a lot because he lived right next door and he was retired. So I was around him a lot and he'd be like, no, we don't have any, you know, that's enough gas for today. And I was fine with it. I was like, okay, I get to ride it for a couple hours. But gas was pretty expensive when I was a kid. Early 80s, wasn't cheap.

I think it was like a buck 70. It was one time there. It was what, like a buck 70 a gallon or something like that. Maybe dropped at the 80s. Yeah. At the end of the 80s, it went back down to like a buck a gallon. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, my grandfather would, you know, he filling up to have somebody fill up a five gallon can for me to ride a snowmobile around in a field was a big deal. I mean, it was a luxury for me as a kid and it was, I appreciated it. You know, I'd say, geez, can I have two gallons of gas today? Yeah. Okay. Okay.

You know, whoops, you helped with the firewood. You're going to have some gas, you know. Did you help with your grandparents' firewood also? Yeah, yeah. He burned a lot. He had a big farmhouse. He split. He did his wood by hand. Really? Yeah, he cut it with a chainsaw, but he would line them all up, split them by hand, line them up on the road. He had a whole line of firewood, split it by hand. Then he had a chute that went down into a cellar. We'd all get together and throw it in the cellar.

How much did he burn in winter? I'd say about 10 gourd. He burned a lot. He had a big farmhouse. Then when he got older, they put an oil furnace in because he was like in his 80s and it was too much for him to do the firewood. Do you notice a difference between wood heat and oil heat? Oh, yeah, definitely. It's not. Oil heat's fast, faster, and you come into your house. But if you come home from a day of being out

just soaked to the bone, frozen. Say you're doing carpentry all day in the cold and your hands are just frozen and your feet are wet and you're just cold, stinging cold, and you just stand in front of that wood stove and it just, it almost burns as you're warming up. You almost have to step away from it. It's like, okay, too hot, too fast. Like jumping in a hot tub when you're cold, you know how it kind of burns? Yeah. And it's just, but it heats you, it will warm your core up. Now, standing in front of a register stove

You know, a radiator in the hallway doesn't, you don't. A forced air vent. Yeah, forced air. Forced air is actually better than a register, I think. Than a forced air vent that's actually warm air blowing on you. That feels pretty good. I like forced air better than the radiant heat myself. Really? Yeah. Because the radiant heat's kind of, it's just there, but it's not hot. You know, it's just like a constant heat.

You know, if you were frozen and you were laying on next to a radiator or a radiant heat system, it would take a long time to warm up. But a forced air one's blowing warm air on you. It seems to just warm you up a little bit faster. Do you think any of the people who run our country could answer any of the questions I've asked you? I don't know. They put the people that, well, you talk about it all the time. The most retarded people in charge. Yeah, they could put the guy that can't do eighth grade math in charge of the energy grid.

And then, okay, maybe he's a good leader, right? We'll get back to that, but he's a good leader, right? Okay. So he can't do eighth grade math, but he's a good organizer. He's a good leader. He's going to hire the

You know, he's going to hire a bunch of engineers, guys who went to MIT and, you know, good common sense people. No, he doesn't hire the – you know, he doesn't even hire those people. Who does he hire? He just hires more people just like him, just more like-minded people like him that have the same, you know – I'll just make these numbers. I tried to do some of this research right before I got here. Have you ever looked up on the internet, like –

How much electricity a windmill produces or how much electricity a ski lift uses. No. There's like no, you know, don't trust everything you read on the internet. Very vague answers in a lot of that stuff. Really? Yeah. You know, you think it'd be cut and dry. Of course. Like a, you know, a windmill puts out so many kilowatts and a chairlift uses this many. Well...

And they just go around in a circle. Well, it depends on how long the chairlift is and how many chairs. Well, obviously, it depends on that. How about the average chairlift? Yeah, the average chairlift. How about the average windmill in an average year? Right, yeah. You can get those specs on your truck. It'll tell you exactly how many horsepower under certain circumstances your motor produces. Right, but then look up how much it costs to charge your Cybertruck. And it's like, well, it depends on where you live, which it does depend on where you live and the electricity rates, you know. Right. It might be 18 cents a kilowatt hour. Right.

Here, it might be 23 cents here, but you could say, okay, it costs 50 bucks to charge your... They don't give the... They just lead you around in a circle because they're trying to push all this stuff on you. I read somewhere that the... I mean, I don't believe everything I read, especially on that because the wackos that are trying to push all this stuff on you are really, really leading you down the wrong path. And the wackos that are trying to disprove them are really, really pulling you off the other path.

You know, like, oh, the wind never, you know, the wind never blows. So, but...

I looked up a thing for how much energy it took to run the New York subway. Cause I know trains use a lot of power. Yeah. And the thing that, and I did all the math of the kilowatt hours and how much it was just getting, I'm not an engineer. And it was very misleading. The information that the solar panel companies are putting out. But, and then I read somewhere, I read this article and the guy said, yeah, like the size of Arizona solar panels just to run the New York subway, not the city.

To start a subway car, just to get the subway car rolling with 10 units hooked to the motor, to the engine, just to get it rolling,

Not to keep it going, just to get it rolling, would power 1,300 average homes for a year. No way. Yeah, because it takes a lot of power to get electricity going. Yes. Like the local sawmill and the local ski area have to coordinate with, well, they used to, probably not now, but the mills in areas have to coordinate with a power grid of when they're going to start their shifts, if they're running shifts and the machines aren't running, because you can't turn on that sawmill and turn on all the chairlifts at the same time.

It uses that much energy to get it going. So sawmill's electric? Yeah, the big ones, like the big, big sawmills, you know, the huge ones. Why? Well, that's what runs the blade on the... Yeah, but why not...

diesel or gasoline? Oh, it's just smoother motor. I mean, less vibration and you don't want the big diesel motor humming next to your head all day. It might be electric. A lot of sawmills will have their own power plant. They'll have two big diesel generators out back running that run the electric motors. Like an asphalt plant has a big diesel motor that the asphalt plant's all electric, but we had a diesel motor sitting there. Like a train. Yeah. A train, you see the black smoke rolling out of the train going down the tracks. It's an electric motor. Yeah.

It's just a diesel generator powering the electric motor. So if we go to electric vehicles and AI is running them. In 2030, Vermont has to be 100% electric. They've passed the law already. What does that mean? I don't know. Well, the sale of electric. Is that simple? So you live very dangerously close to Vermont. Yeah.

Do you ever go over there? Yeah, we used to go to Vermont quite often. My parents had a monument gravestone business, and that's where we got our stones. So I've been to Vermont a lot back and forth. Yeah. And yeah, it's like Maine. If you drive down across Route 2 to Vermont, it's the same. A little more mountainous over there through Mount Washington, but for the most part, it's the same. But not everyone in the—I mean, a lot of normal people in Vermont. Yeah, I know. A lot of rednecks over there and regular people and—

So they're all going to have to go electric, like electric chainsaw? When they pass one of those bills, I mean, this might be one of those questions that nobody knows the answer to. When they pass one of those bills, like California passed a bill, all electric by 2035, what does that mean? Does anybody actually know? Does that mean that they're really not going to sell any gasoline vehicles in California after 2035? Can they change that? A lot of electric motors are powered by diesel generators. Right.

Ski areas. A lot of ski lifts have the diesel motor sitting right there on the chairlift itself. You'll see this, you know, a lot of ski areas have the diesel motor that powers the electric or it's a diesel. Some are just direct drive diesel lifts. So I'm starting to think that reality is not going to catch up to these laws. Yeah, I don't know. Unless they come up with some kind of batteries, like the Cybertruck that we're testing right now. I wouldn't.

140 miles yesterday and I was at about 50%. That's fine for me. I don't, I very rarely drive 200 miles a day. But if I had to all of a sudden go somewhere at the end of the day, like,

Holy shit, I got to drive. You know, there's a family emergency. Or I'm out of beer. Yeah, I'm out of beer. Yeah, there's a family emergency in New York City or South Carolina. And I got to go somewhere real fast and hop in my car and drive. Oh, shit, my car is only half full now. I got to wait 20 minutes for it to charge or I have to go buy a super. When I went to get that cement yesterday, I was like, well, maybe I might have to charge this getting that cement because I didn't know. I've never been on a long trip with it.

So I'm looking up supercharging stations on the way to the cement place. Oh, no, there isn't any. There's slow charging stations that take eight hours. It's just a 120-volt plug. Well, probably a 220 plug, yeah. I charge it at my house with 220. But yeah, the electric, the power grid and the diesel and the nuclear would be great. Hydro dams would be Canada. Doesn't Canada get all this power from hydro? Like all of it, right? They own the hydro dams in Maine, Brookfield. Right. So why...

Obviously, they've got the methods to make hydro dams to where the pipe, you know, they tap into the bottom of the river with a pipe. They do it all over the place. And the pipe runs underneath the ground to the turbine, pops out downriver. So there's no dam. You know, you're not losing any. The fish are still getting through. That little section of river might collapse.

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And you just tap into the, and they've been doing that. There's technology for that. It's not hurting. Why are they so against that? Because they're not pushing their solar panels and their windmills that they've got invested in. You know, you read about all these politicians that got rich off the, and people don't like reading that. You know, six-pack Joe going to the store, reading the paper that so-and-so politician has all of a sudden got rich off windmills. He's not dumb. He can figure out what's going on. You know, the windmill project in Rhode Island, according to the,

I watch a lot of YouTube. It's very, it's good. I mean, it's almost a default. Most people I know, it's their default TV now is YouTube. I mean, the windmill project in Rhode Island, I don't know the name of the project, but it's in the news all the time. Offshore windmills. Yeah, offshore windmills in the ocean. So the Kennedy type people don't want it because it's in their backyard. And, you know, the Obama's people that live in Nantucket and Rhode Island and all those fancy places don't want it.

They want to put them up in, you know, Rangeley, Maine. Because, you know, we're not going to, we don't care up here. You know, what do we care? About natural beauty and living a decent life. But that windmill is huge.

And it provides one 700th. And the guy, he wrote it out on a piece of paper and did the math of the kilowatt hours. He was smarter than I was. One 700th of the electricity that it takes to power, not just the area that it's going to power, but Rhode Island, which is the size of that coffee cup. So the windmill project with the wind blowing a 700th of what Rhode Island uses for power. And they've shut down power.

Either one or two big power plants in Rhode Island. And they wrecked a commercial fishery, too. And they wrecked a commercial fishery, too. And the windmills were already falling apart out in the ocean. One came apart. I don't know where it was. It was on the news. I just kind of laughed when I walked by the TV because the windmill was all... The blade was sticking down in the ocean. And the environmentalist people were worried that the material that the blade was made out of was going to poison the fish. So who said that it's okay to...

Well, I guess windmills would be our biggest thing here. Solar panels are pretty... There's a few solar farms around, but they're small. Yeah. Maybe 10 acres or something. So they're not too offensive yet. They're not... Well, I don't know. When you get off the turnpike in gray, that one's kind of offensive when I see that one. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It used to be cows in that field. Now there's windmills. I mean, now there's...

Now there's solar panels. But the windmill, I mean, who's to dynamite the top of a mountain? You got to build a road up there to get the windmill projects to use. My neighbor does them. And they're, you know, you got to blast the top of a mountain range. Blast it. Just to flatten off a spot to put these windmills and build a road to it and maintain the road to it.

And the erosion from maintaining the road every year. It's like cash for clunkers when they wanted in, what was that, early 2000s? Trade in your- Obama, yeah. Yeah, trade in your Ford Bronco for a Toyota Tacoma and you got $4,000 for your Ford Bronco. Well, sounds great. Yeah, you're driving something that gets 25 miles a gallon versus something that gets 15 miles to the gallon. But the natural resources that it took to build that

better gas mileage car versus keeping that Ford Bronco on the road and not mining all that new steel and rubber and all the resources that it takes to build that car. They didn't really factor that into the point. Okay, this guy's only driving 5,000 miles a year and is...

96 Bronco that gets 10 miles to the gallon. So you give him $4,000 of our money to buy a Toyota Tacoma that gets better gas mileage. They're all going to be off the road in 10 years, rusted out anyway. But maybe he's maintaining that Bronco. Maybe it's, you know...

not rusted or just, you know, anything. It doesn't matter. But why is that better to just junk that and get rid of it and buy the new car? Someone's getting rich from it. And that was a whole scam on the Cash for Clunkers. I don't know if you have ever reported on that, but I don't remember the particulars of it, but it was a scam. I mean, they got rich on it. It's all a scam and nothing's a bigger scam than wind power. Yeah, that's like, that's huge. You read those articles and they're not...

on the everyday news, but there's been articles on the local papers about the scamming. Have you ever shot one with a .308? I'd love to shoot one. They were going to put them behind my house on my mountain. That was a big thing. Oh, yeah, my wife was going to the meetings, and my neighbor had the signs up, no windmills, and the bat, there was a species of bat up there that was rare or a breeding ground for bat breeding grounds, and that was apparently why they didn't do it and the money for them was

I think when Trump got in, didn't a lot of that stuff dry up? I don't know. Probably not. I think, I don't know, but something happened politically, but it was the bat thing that was holding them back. And that was what, and they still have a hundred year. I don't know if it's a lease or an agreement that they could still go up there and do it. If they put those windmills in, what caliber rifle would have stopped them, do you think? I don't know. I think you got to hit them right in the middle.

I don't think a bullet hole through the tip of the wing is going to, it's like shooting an airplane with a bullet in the wing. It's really not going to stop the plane. You got to hit the guts of it, you know, you really get it. And this is gonna, I'm usually right about these kinds of things. Okay. In 50 years, when these windmills are probably 30 years old, these windmills are abandoned and falling apart. You know, they're just, nobody's taking care of them anymore. The whole industry is bankrupt. They're falling over on the side of the mountain. They're just wasted.

People are going to go there and there's going to be no frigging wire going to the thing to start with. It's that much of a scam. Like there's not even a wire going to the thing. That's my prediction. So you think we're going to discover this whole thing is bullshit. Like they're not actually producing. Yeah. They're not even hooked up. There's nothing on the inside. It's just big blades. There's no generator on the inside or anything.

Have you ever been up? I'm that much of a weirdo that I think. I don't think that's weird at all. I don't think it's weird at all. This kid, this 20-year-old kid with no training just shot Trump at 140 yards with a .223. Right. Anything is possible. That's for sure, yeah. Have you ever been up and poked around the windmills? I've never been. Not those big ones. I mean, I've been up towers and stuff. I've climbed towers before, but I've never been up a windmill tower. No, I don't like getting near them. I don't know.

What do you mean? I don't know. They're just not, they're not scenic. I don't want to spend, I'm not going to, I'm not going to go to the, take my vacation in the Bronx. I'm not going to go hang out next to a frigging windmill. You know, it's basically the same thing to me. My friend has a camp. You've been there where you look out the porch and you see the 22 windmills on the mountain.

I don't know. It kind of ruins it for me. I agree. Maybe I'm just being selfish. I don't know. No, they're being selfish, actually. Right. They're moving them into poor areas where the towns have been depopulated because of changes that they instituted to our economy, and the town can't say no because they need the money. Right. Yeah, they're buying off the people that can be bought off. Yeah. Cheap. Yeah. And it's like selling the family farm to send your kid to college type of theory, right? Yeah.

Is it such a good idea that we're doing this? You know, selling our mountaintops to the windmill people for some quick cash right now? You know, is that the best thing for our future? Probably not. It actually, it sounds like a crime. It should be. I mean, especially when there's like no vote on it. Like...

you know, the it's, I hate to pick on rich people, but the rich people own the land and they're selling basic, they're not really doing anything with it. They log it. We've been logging it for years. The poor people do benefit from it. The working class benefit, the paper mills benefit from it. Okay. That industry is kind of drying up from what we saw the other day. And okay, well, this is our last chance to get just a little bit more money out of that land. We'll

Some frigging scam deal with the government to put windmills on it, you know? One last little push. Give the little people a little something so they can build a new school or something out of the money or put a new road in or something. They're selling their soul. You really are.

You always feel when you sell land. I've sold land before, you know, kind of because I had to or I was moving or relocating or I needed the money. And it just felt so soul burning. Like I didn't feel good afterwards. No, you shouldn't. After I sell that land. I mean, I had to and no regrets against it. You know, I got a lot of land now, so I made out better, you know. Yeah. I think I bettered myself doing it. But while I was doing it, I'm like, man, I'm selling land that belonged to my grandfather. Like I really don't.

I just don't feel good. Even though it wasn't much, it was only a couple of acres, you know, I needed to pay some bills and, you know, buy some stuff. But I'm like, I just don't feel good doing this, you know? I think that's right. Yeah.

When those windmills break, who's going to cart them off? What happens to them? They're big. You ever seen one going down the road, the blade? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they like take up the whole road. Yeah, I don't know what they... And the motors on the inside and the bearings, the construction company in town bought a crane just to... Like a $4 million crane just to work on them. You need that big equipment. So...

You can't tell me that going around and maintaining, there's a lot of windmills in Maine now. They're everywhere. Yeah. And they still only provide supposedly 16% of the power for Maine. Now, I don't, they say to Maine, that's another thing when you read these things, you have to really watch what you read because the 16% of the power for Maine is the residents. And then another article said that that doesn't, I don't know if this is true or not. It's just what I read on the internet. Yeah.

That doesn't include industrial power. The resident, well, houses use very little electricity. It doesn't take much to power the houses in Maine. They use most of the electricity, but they use very little. Right. You know, but the factories and stuff, and, you know, they use power. Ski areas use a shitload of power, you know. What do you think of ski areas?

I like to ski. I've always skied. I don't ski anymore. Just, I don't, it's too crowded for me now. You know, I don't, it's like waiting in line at Walmart when I go skiing. That's what I feel like I'm doing. But yeah, I don't know. It's like, it's another thing kind of selling your soul, you know? All right, let's, like I said, bulldoze the top of this mountain off and cut all the trees and cause a shitload of erosion just so a bunch of rich people can slide down the hill, you know? Yeah.

You don't see too many poor people skiing. You don't? No. They don't have ghetto day at the ski area? No. It's like golf courses. Golf courses are beautiful. And I think once something is done, I think it's one thing. Once a wind farm is in or once a ski area is constructed, I think the damage is done and Mother Nature kind of heals itself and does what it's going to do.

But it's the process of it can kill a lot of fish, I'm sure. I mean, fish biologists will tell you that golf courses are the worst thing for fish. For sure. Golf courses, I don't play. I enjoy, I like looking at golf courses. They're beautiful. They're mold. I like nice, they look nice. They got the trees and everything. But man, you can't look at a golf course and just think, man, why?

Who thought this was a good idea to fill in this swamp and bulldoze all this land and flatten it off and cut all the trees just so I can hit this little white ball into a hole? Who had that vision that that's what we should be doing with this land? Same thing with the ski area. Looking at the beautiful mountain and you get this ski lift going up the side. Who thought, oh Jesus, what a great place for a ski area?

I guess it's your personal preference. If you really like skiing, I don't know. But not me, personally. I'd be like, no, don't put a ski area there. Why would you want a ski area there? When you just want to hike to the top of the mountain on your snowshoes without the skier. Have the skiers shut the lifts down for a while. Nothing against skiing. I love skiing. I'm a good skier. I skied my whole life. I skied in Colorado. I love skiing. So I'm not bashing ski areas, but it just...

You know, it's almost like enough's enough. Try walk, walk to the top of the mountain and ski down. You know, then you've accomplished something. Fewer runs that way. Yeah. But you've accomplished something. That's right. You've actually done something that day. Hopping on the chairlift, riding to the top and sliding down. You haven't accomplished anything. No, that's true. You drove there in your car. You hopped on the chairlift. You rode to the top of the mountain. Yeah.

You slid down the other side on your skis. You didn't do anything. You know, yeah, you've, you know, you got to be in good shape to ski. I mean, it's a young person sport or a person in good shape, but you don't have to be in that good of shape. I can ski. I'm not in good shape. Yeah, it's just, I don't know. It just seemed like the wrong thing to do. And then you see the development around any resort, whether it's a ski area or a golf course or whatever.

You can't think of any other kind of resorts that they have. Really, that's about it, I guess. The development around them is the big thing. Look at the housing developments and the condos and other mountain bulldozers over here. So these people can look at that ski area. Oh, I want to view with a ski area. That's personal preference. I'm not putting those people down. Nature-wise and environmentally, it certainly doesn't

Sound like a good idea. I don't think you need much environmental education to figure out that it's not good. Yeah. You know, I think eighth grade earth science would tell you that that's not a good thing to do. Paving a road to the top of the mountain so you can have views. But it's been like that in Europe for a long time, right? There's a lot of that in Europe, right? Ski areas and development. Oh, yeah. So, and it's been fine over there. I mean, Mother Nature does heal itself around those things. Yeah.

So it's probably not long-term that big a deal for the environment. I don't know. It just seems like a short-term thing to me. If we have a massive economic downturn, I mean, a lot of this stuff will heal itself, as you said. Right. Anyway. Yeah. I think, yeah, if those houses get abandoned, you've seen abandoned towns. Yeah. I looked up the post that I was stationed at in Germany and it was a, you know,

I don't know what they use it for now, but basically abandoned. And they were like stucco German, stucco type buildings like you see in Germany. And it was like the, it's like gone, like the earth had already swallowed up all those buildings. Really? Yeah, it was like everything's falling down. The grass is growing, trees growing up through everything.

You know, just like when you find an old logging camp in the woods, you'll find the stove and all the stuff and the tree growing up through everything. Find a stone wall and a cellar hole. Yeah, a stone wall and a cellar hole with a 200-year-old tree in the middle of it. Yeah, exactly. So I think Mother Nature will recover. It's just an aesthetic thing for me, I would say.

I don't like the washouts, though, the erosion. I don't like building. You shouldn't be building roads up mountains anyway. Sometimes you have to to get to the next town or economic reasons or whatever.

But yeah, just for recreation, build a road up the side of a mountain that causes a shitload of erosion. No, that's not a good idea. I did that kind of work too. I did that for years. And I wouldn't have what I have right now if it wasn't for the ski area. I worked up there for doing landscaping and carpentry and stuff for years, excavation. So I feel bad bashing it. But it'd be like if you worked for a company that installed windmills and you made a lot of money doing it.

Say you were a truck driver for the company that put in windmills. I mean, you can still hate windmills, right? And still enjoy your job. I don't know. I can't relate. I mean, it's not like I worked for media companies that lied to the population of the country I was born in, like justified pointless wars through fear. But you still love those media companies. Oh, I love them. I don't judge at all. Right. Yeah. So we all get stuck in the hypocrisy of...

You know, nobody's above hypocrisy, that's for sure. That's for sure. You know, we all get stuck, you know, the guy that, but then you see the people that go skiing with the Subaru and the Save the Planet Earth sticker, but they're heading up to go skiing. Now that bothers me. You know, that's blatant hypocrisy there. And they'll say, oh, there's solar panels on the side of the, on the chairlift, so the chairlift's solar powered. They should know better than that.

The solar panel on the building going into the chairlift, it might power the guy's coffee pot at best. Yeah, right. You know? It's not, they should know better than that. I don't think so. And it's our fault for letting, it's not, it's not those, it's not, those people have very good intentions. All the, I call them moon bats. Yeah. All the moon bat people, you know who I'm talking about. I do. You know, but I'm not putting them down. They have the best intentions in the world. They really honestly think.

think that what they're doing is great. I think they do feel deep down inside because they're not, those people aren't getting rich off it. Right. You know, it's the politicians, it's the politicians that are getting rich off it. But those people are just kind of blind and naive and they really do believe that

what they're fighting for is true. And it's not their fault that they're in charge now. You look at all the moon bats. You got people, you got a woman running for president right now that is not qualified to teach finger painting for kindergarten kids. Yeah. I mean, it's your fault and my fault that she's in charge. It's his fault that she's in charge. It's not the rest of the moon bats people in charge. We let that happen.

We're the responsible adults in charge of all this stuff. You know, we let that happen. We let those people take over. I mean, we tried our best to stop it, but we didn't do good enough. Okay, now they're teaching. I don't have kids, so I probably shouldn't say this, but they're teaching, you know, whatever, a sophomore in high school to get gender surgery. You know, like, how did that happen? Where did we take our eye off the ball long enough for that?

You know, how do we take our eye off the ball long enough to let Cam Camilla? What's her Kamala Carmela? You know how to say it. I don't. I don't know. She doesn't know how to say it. She says it a couple different. I'm going to go with Campachia. Yeah, whatever. How did we get in a world increasingly defined by deception and the total rejection of human dignity? We decided to found the Tucker Carlson Network and we did it with one principle in mind. Tell the truth. You have a God given right to think for yourself.

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You were on the news every night. I did my best by bad-mouthing her, and everybody at the chainsaw shop did their best, but she still won. Yeah. And how did she win? Because we didn't try hard enough. We didn't fight hard enough. We tried it January 6th. That was like, okay, that was a very...

You know, that was it. I called you that day. That afternoon, I'm like, freaking finally. I was getting my hair cut. I'll never forget it. And maybe you called me and you're like, you watching this? It's the greatest fucking thing I've ever seen. I love it. Yeah. They're sitting in a chair. Yeah. You were the only one who was excited about that. And I was ashamed that I wasn't excited about it because you're absolutely right. Right. It's the people's house. Yeah. Are you joking? The crime is going into a building that you own? Right. Yeah.

That's not a crime. Yeah. You guys have totally fucked up life as we know it in this country, a nice country to live in, you know, and, and you've twisted it all sideways and you've got it all fucked up and you know, yeah, we got to take, it's the, we got to put the adults back in charge. Okay. You, okay. You guys have had your fun. Yeah. You know, go, go, we got plenty of jobs for you to do.

You know, you're still going to be important. You're still going to have a purpose. You can be a community organizer or you can do something like that, you know, but you don't want to give, I don't even know if they're qualified for that because that's how they, you know, what do you do with those people that want to let 14 year old kids get sex changes? What, what, what can you do with that person? What would you, I'm not religious at all, but that's definitely the mark of the mark of the devil or the, yeah, whatever they call it. What would you do with them? I don't know.

I mean, you've supervised a lot of them and there's a lot of people giving into it. Like people that you would never suspect giving into that. Well, it's not that bad. So what the drag queen story hour in kindergarten, what does a kindergarten kid know? No, it's pretty bad. I don't care if a transgender person reads a story to my kid, they can babysit my kid. I don't care if they're transgender, that's fine. But the way that they act with the boobs hanging out and the sexualized dancing and all that.

No, I don't care what gender you are. It's got nothing to do with transgender. You don't act that way around kids or, you know, I don't go around. I'm not going to go have a, it's the doggy style society, people. We're going to have a parade. All the people that like to do it doggy style, we're just going to have a parade. That'd be most people. You know, we're not going to do that. You don't do those kind of, you don't do a transgender sexual parade. Yeah.

I've always thought that that would be the trigger for violence because someone did that shit to my kids. I'd shoot them without thinking about it. I think it's going to come to that. I think it's pretty... Well, that's so ridiculous. Like, if someone... That's like...

That's a form of sexual abuse on my kids. So that's the one thing you can't allow. You get beat up in the old days for doing that. At very least, at very least beaten up. So, and I'm utterly opposed to violence as I often say, and you know me well, you know that I actually am opposed to violence. I'm not just saying I hate these wars. I hate all this shit. Right. But if there's one excuse for violence, it's sexually abusing my children. Right. Like, or I'm not a good dad if I'm allowing that.

And all these people are allowing it. It's like, what's wrong with you? Right. For real. Right. What is wrong with people? Yeah. It's how did that in people give the good people are giving up. They just saying, well, I don't know if they don't want to. I've heard people say like, you know, how can you let your kids do that? Well, all the rest of the kids are doing it and they're all talking about that. And there are certain things that kids do that you like.

You scold your kid for it, but okay, all kids are going to do that. They're going to steal your Playboy magazine. They're going to look at stuff like that. That's just, you punish them for it. But I think that they want to fit in. I think there might be so many of those type of people now that people don't want to lose their family members. Well, that is true. So they don't want to come disconnected with their family because they love their family.

So like, okay, there's five people in the family that think the way I do, so-called normal thinking. And then the rest of them think it's okay to get gender surgery at 14 years old. You know, you're outnumbered in your family. I think the colleges brainwashed those. Do you think it comes from colleges? I think it does. I don't know. When you were at Harvard, was it crazy? I went to college for a year.

For what? I went to study forestry. I didn't do too good. I was young and... Forestry. Forestry, yeah. I mean, I did good in school. I was fine. I just didn't like going to college. I didn't, I don't know. I didn't fit in.

I drank back then, partying young, you know, that kind of stuff. So, you know, didn't, and I was working too. I enjoyed working. When I went to college, I worked for the logging company in town and I enjoyed it. I drove trucks. I drove skitters and I liked it. I like getting up at five in the morning and going to work. I really did. I enjoyed it. You know, it was, it brings, it still does. It brings pleasure to me. I really, I really enjoyed it. Yeah. So I didn't do, I didn't, I had a lady, what was she? A,

English teacher, I believe. And I did a, I was kind of messing with her, but I, sociology. And I did a report on John Wayne or John Wayne movies. We had to be real fancy about, but I use John Wayne movies as my base. And I said, how great John Wayne. Well, everybody loves John Wayne. Who doesn't like John Wayne? And in front of the class, she did a thing on how John Wayne was a racist. And I'm looking at her and I'm like, what?

I don't even know what you're, I was already, I was 25 years old. I had been around a little bit, you know, lived in the service and stuff. I was already out of the army. And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, lady. She goes, oh yeah, it's, you know, it's proven. And then she gives me all this stuff that probably came from the seventies or sixties, all this data about, you know, how those kinds of movies in Hollywood was racist in the old days. And I'm like,

I don't know. I've lived with people of all color. I never got the idea that John Wayne was a racist or was racist or watching a John Wayne movie was racist. I used to have people of color, my roommates in the service, and we would sit around and watch John Wayne movies. You didn't walk out in outrage? I didn't walk out in outrage. So I don't know what those... So then I was like, okay, this is what's going on here. And she wanted me to print all my stuff on...

I worked at the time. She wanted me to, I was probably just being a smartass for this because I can be a smartass sometimes. She wanted me to print all the stuff. Computers were just coming out like, I don't know, a word processor type thing. So you had to put everything on a disc and that's how she wanted you to hand in your assignment. And I'm sure she was trying to teach you how to learn computers too. That was probably part of the deal. I didn't have a computer.

And I had to work a lot. You know, I didn't have time to stay at school and use the computer. I would just type the stuff out at night and I didn't own a computer. So she says, well, you have to turn it on the disc. I said, I said, I'd love to. I said, I don't have a computer. I don't have time. She goes, well, there's plenty of computers in the library. I said, I don't have time to stay and do that. When I leave here, I go to work and then I do my stuff at night. And then I, so she, I went to the Dean or wasn't the Dean, might've been the Dean. It was a small college anyway. And, uh,

I explained it to him and he goes, well, yeah, I said, I said, I'm paying you guys. Like you guys work for me, you know, you're my employee. And he didn't, the Dean was pretty good about that, but that woman was mad. That teacher was mad. Like, no, you guys work for me. I'm paying, you know, it's like, I'm, when you go to college, it's, it's just like, you're paying that professor to mow your lawn. That professor works for you. Of course. You know, that you, you don't work for them.

And the dean said, it's okay. Yeah, he can hand his stuff. He took my side because I was working and I was paying tuition. It was GI Bill, but I was still writing. I still wrote the check and the check came to me. And that woman did not see it that way. The jobless racist lady. She did not see the fact that she works for me. She did not get that.

I guess. Tell her to whip up some dinner and pressure wash the deck. Yeah. Change oil and rotate the tires on my truck. Yeah. Yeah. Patrick Feeney. Thank you. Thank you, sir. It was a, it was a pleasure. Thanks for listening to Tucker Carlson show. If you enjoyed it, you can go to tuckercarlson.com to see everything that we have made the complete library. Tucker Carlson.com.