Lisa Vanderpump: The Queen of Bravo [VIDEO] 55:25

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Lisa Vanderpump, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Are they ready for this? Probably not. I don't know if they're ready for this. I feel like this is like the matchup that everyone wanted but maybe didn't know they needed so people are gonna freak out that you're here. Okay good. I've had Ariana on before during the scandal and that's the only person, oh wait I've had Stassi on. Oh yes. We hit it off but I was like I was saving the best for last honestly. Okay. So I'm excited. How are you doing today? I'm

I'm good, but I've been frantically busy doing everything. I've been here, there, I've been in New York, doing the Upfronts, Gordon Ramsay's show, you know, Food Stars premieres today. I've been doing stuff at Vanderpump Villa, Reunion, I've been in Vegas, I've been in Lake Tahoe because I just opened my new restaurant there. I've been here, there, and everywhere. I'm exhausted just like thinking about that. Do you ever have any down times?

I haven't had as much as I would like, for sure. And I think that's important to build it into your schedule. But with, you know, the shows and we have the Dog Foundation, we just had World Dog Day. I have a lot of responsibilities. So I take that really seriously. ♪

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I'm thinking about your house, Villa Rosa. Yes, it's a sanctuary. It is the most insane, extravagant place. Like when I see it on the shows, to people that haven't seen it, there are ponies, there are swans. Like it is over the top and amazing and everything you could dream of for a house.

If you do have alone time in your house, what are you doing by yourself? Well, I love cooking. Okay. So I've made sure my kitchen is absolutely heavenly. Do you remember when I threw Kyle out the house and I kind of put the sledgehammer on there? I was like, fuck it, fuck it, we're done. This is time for a new era. Song, Kyle. Yeah.

So I kind of made a kitchen that really, you know, I have the view, the doors open up nicely. There's a fireplace when it's cold. I just really, so I'm very homey in terms of I love doing flowers. I mean, I'm obsessively always kind of, you know, doing flower arranging. There's something about,

my home that I feels the essence of who I am and it will always be I mean my children grew up saying you know they never heard an argument in our house really yeah I mean I might like

punch the shit out of him behind the doors. But I just always believed in having that very kind of calming, you know, I mean, I was a little crazy. I mean, if we weren't dancing on the tables and things like that, music plays all the time. And I just really just believe that calm in my life gives me the strength to deal with everything on the outside. Right. It's like when you go home, you're in your sanctuary and then you leave and you deal with all the chaos. And I would encourage people, no matter how hard you work, no matter if it's

Like one room, a beautiful place, you know, create a space where you really feel comfortable.

I think people are so fascinated by you because you have this lavish life, but you do work so hard. Like you said, you're not sitting at home. Would you consider yourself high maintenance or low maintenance? Well, I mean, you see, I arrived with nobody today except my dog. I know. I don't have an assistant yet. I should have one. You don't have an assistant? I do my own nails. I have my hair done every six weeks. I do my own makeup pretty much, but I travel with somebody if we have to look through the camera. So now I'm very low maintenance.

But when it comes to, do I need fresh flowers and music and good wine and I like cooking good food, that I have high standards. So you're high standards on the vibe, but for yourself, I can't believe, like I was expecting. Oh God. No, I don't know if I was expecting a big posse with you. I at least thought you would have like three.

maybe three people Lisa I've had musicians come 20 people know me and you I have one dog let's talk about Bravo yeah okay because obviously you're such an iconic part of Bravo and with Bravo comes drama yes when all of this was starting in your life when you got on housewives like did you have any hesitations of doing reality TV

Yes, I did. Because in fact, I'm having dinner tomorrow night with my friend Sharon Osbourne. And so I remember really the essence of reality television was the Osbournes, you know, prior to that. And that seems such a crazy hot mess. I would think, oh my God, as I said, I lived in a kind of sanctuary, even though we worked hard. We lived in a really beautiful house and I had a restaurant, Villa Blanca. And I was approached a couple of times and I thought, we don't really fight. I see the funny side of it.

I mean, I just, I'm not sure that I'm really right for this. And they said the form that I filled out when I went into the audition was, eh, eh, it's put a line through it. And, you know, I remember they said they have a tape where they say, you know, tell us about your sex life. And I was like,

What, with my husband or with everybody else? And they were like, oh, okay. So I saw the funny side, but I wasn't going to go for the interview because they had, they wanted you to be submitted in groups of people, you know, like you were a group. So these women had put me in a group and they're women that came to the restaurant and they weren't really friendly with me. And I thought, oh my God, no, this is not going to work for me at all.

So then it was Jennifer Stallone, Jennifer, if you're listening, who said to me, oh, come on, you've got to go for it. Like, go for it. And she made me sit down on their bed and watch the New York Housewives. And they were kind of yelling and screaming at each other. And I was like, Jennifer, that's not me at all. Go for it, go for it. So I went in and I had no kind of preconception of what was about to transpire. And they asked me this. I was like, oh,

fuck, come on, are you serious? Do they really think I'm going to sit down and tell them about my sex life when I don't even know them? What planet are they on? Because if you remember, right, in the first episode, they said, Lisa, you know, something about your sex life. And I said, oh, yeah, twice a year, you know, like birthdays at Christmas. That's not my birthday. You know, it's another day off. And they took it seriously. So suddenly I was on the news. Yeah.

talking about having sex twice a year and I was like oh shit now I better behave because you know everything they said was being taken literally but you're so entertaining and even just that in itself like I think people love that and you're so good at it I was gonna see the world through my eyes you know and it was just if I I didn't care if everybody judged me I mean I I set myself up for people to hate me because I was like you know I love pink I had a little dog that I carried around that

you know, terrible kind of skin problems. He was always compromised, Chicky, you know, had alopecia and stuff. I used to feed him on a silver platter. You know, I always took the piss out of my husband, you know. So it was just like I set myself up for people to go, she's a fucking lunatic. And guess what? They were right. Oh, my God.

You think people thought you were a lunatic? Well, I think, you know, I set it, you know, I was this wealthy woman. They didn't know how hard I worked in my life. They didn't know that I fed the homeless every Monday for 12 years. They didn't know I had, you know, charities, you know, that I would support. I'd worked hard my whole life.

with Ken I'd been married forever and a day and you know I was living in this big house I loved pink I had a little dog I drove around a fuck off car you know what I mean so yes I mean it was easy to be obnoxious I think there's something about also television that like whether it's real or not like you being yourself or playing it up for the camera like it's great TV that's what I want to see authenticity when I see Paris Hilton and everything she has going on I'm like

I'm entertained. Yeah. I'm entertained. Yeah. And so like, I don't think anyone can look at that and hate it. Like they're, maybe their jaws are dropping when they see you feeding your dog on a silver platter. And they're like, I can't even like afford kibble for my fricking dog. Yeah. But it's like, it's aspirational and it's funny. Wait, do you actually only have sex two times a year? No, um, not anymore. I mean, I used to have at least twice a year. Um, uh,

no, no, it was a joke. It was a joke. I was like, he has to beg, you know, put his knee pads on and crawl to me and beg. I remember there was a quote from you and you were like... I had a very strong physical connection with my husband. I met him, I was married within three months. That's not somebody that has sex twice a year, trust me. That's the other deal.

You have such iconic lines. I remember one of your lines was like, I like my husband calls me the sex object. Like he asked for sex and I object. I know, but you know, people, I thought if they're going to take it seriously, then they don't understand me. Totally. You know, is it true? I remember reading somewhere. No,

So let's start with that. Absolutely not. Oh, by the way, I also don't have a publicist. Because I don't give a shit. What people talk about me is none of my business. So I don't have a publicist. I mean, I have a lot of publicity, especially with three shows on the air. Right. You know, I've done, oh my God, I don't know what I've done press wise. But I don't try to control it. It is what it is. It is. And also, like, I feel like you're seasoned enough where like, you're not going to say something that's going to get you cancelled. And like, also, you can't really get cancelled.

Like unless you do something so awful that you go to jail, I guess that's considered canceled. Yes. I guess, which isn't, you know, you're not going to jail. Um, okay. I'm curious. This was the rumor was like, Andy Cohen was like, not completely sold with Bravo that they were going to do Beverly Hills. Oh, the housewives love it. When you say this, go ahead. They're all going to saw my tape that they were his words.

And then it was in the Huffington Post, I think, that he said it. Okay, tell people the story, though. No, I can't. Okay, I'll say it. Okay, so it's two Southern girls. They're his words. Okay, so Andy Cohen said that he wasn't sold if they wanted to do the Beverly Hills franchise. Oh my God, I can see the Richard's sisters spinning.

right now and then he saw your tape and was like oh I immediately had a vision I immediately know we had to make it and it's like I could see that happening but I'm assuming that pisses the other women off oh I think yeah and then I got Vanderpump Rules the second season but that was you know that wasn't so much about someone's calling you should we answer yes but oh it's Kyle saying I just heard

Oh, I can't imagine. Kyle Richards. No, it's my daughter, but don't worry. Don't worry. Yeah. That's fine.

Oh, so sweet. Say hi, sweetie. I try to spend every minute of the day. Hi, sweetie. I'm in the middle of an interview. Be back soon. So you don't know if it's true. Those are Andy's words. But do you think... I do know. No, he has said it. It is true. And I understand maybe I was a slightly different flavor. Also being English and having a ridiculous sense of humor. And even now, I mean, I did his Watch What Happens Live the other night. And he was like, oh, wow.

Oh my God. I really fucking love it, Andy. Stop it. Do you think you're his favorite housewife? I... Well, I mean...

I think there's a few people that aren't his favorite housewives now after what he's been through. And I really vociferously defended him because all those allegations were absolute bullshit. They did big investigation. No, I think he's got a love for... There's a few of us, but I think he definitely has connected with me on many levels and socialized with me. That's why he's like...

If anybody knew what I was up to, Lisa Vanderbilt was, I was like, oh my God, don't take me down that road. It's true. But it's true. I knew that he was innocent of all this bullshit. Yeah. And also there's something very reassuring for women about a gold star gay, a man that is not attracted to women that you can play with. Mm-hmm.

You know, you can really, I played with Andy. I'd say very, very, you know, like kind of strong sexual innuendos, but you know, it's not going anywhere. Right. Right. It's a joke. It's a joke. As a straight man, you'd have to be careful, you know, very careful. But Andy Cohen is a straight man. It's never going to happen. No, it's definitely not going to happen when you are at the center of drama, because that is what comes with being on these shows. How does it impact you?

Well, I think I, you know, when people say, oh, you didn't turn up for the reunion when you left. And I was like, no, I drew a line in the sand, thought that's it. I am not going and I'm not going to finish this show. I said at the beginning of season, you know, I've been very honest about this. I was very involved with the Trevor Project and done PSAs for them. My only sibling committed suicide. I was really like not in good shape. I mean, if I, I've talked about this, if I open the fridge,

you know, and there wasn't milk in there, I'd start to cry. It was like on that edge all the time. And for the first time in my life, I took some medication, some antidepressants, just to try and get over that. And I was really, yeah, I was not in good shape. And I said, okay, I'll do Vanderpump Rules, which I started filming just, I think, three or four days after my brother's funeral. So I started that and I thought,

let's just not talk about it, you know, but I also don't really have that personal connection on Vanderpump Rules as far as my personal life. We've always seen me mentoring them and supporting them. Yeah.

So we kind of, you know, got through that. And then they would like come back to housewives. I said, I just can't do it anymore. And I think about four or five out of the nine years they'd come for me, you know, where they all gang up and they do this and that. And I'd been at those reunions where I'd sat there, you know, with them all kind of coming at me like, that wasn't funny when you said that, or you did this or you did that. And I was just like,

I'm going to leave right now when I threw Kyle out the house and I'm never going back. When you look back, like why do you think so many of the women came for you? I don't know. I suppose they might have thought I was favored in some way. I don't know. I really don't know. I mean,

I think we all know, but I would never say it. I mean, I had Vanderpump Rules given to me, my own show as executive producer with the same company and the same network, like in the second season of Housewives. So that was a huge privilege, and then that's gone on for 12 years. So maybe suddenly I was sitting on the other side as executive producer with... Maybe that stimulated certain people, because I don't know, but they show...

Certainly didn't make my life easy on that show. I was going to say, I think like naturally anyone that's a bystander and is unbiased can just be like, oh, there's like a lot of jealousy. Like the fact that you were able to make something so much bigger out of what you were doing, it's amazing. Well, I just think whenever anybody says that about themselves, like, oh, they're jealous of me. It just sounds pathetic and self-aggrandizing. But I just think I was a...

afforded a lot of kind of um and also the audience would nearly always support me yeah so even when they came against me they never had anything so the audience would always kind of rally in my defense and you know i would do these appearances with rosé and wine and dog appearances and shelter things in fact i'm doing one this afternoon a shelter thing um

And people connected to me. You know, if it was about my love of dogs, our furry friends, and if it was about marriage, you know, having a long marriage, if it was about suicide prevention, if it was about LGBT issues, it was about my son who I adopted from foster care that we never really talked about. But, you know, all these issues, people would always connect with me emotionally. And you're funny. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I never think I'm funny. I just think I'm telling my side of the story. You're just talking and then it goes. I'm just talking. I have a narrative that runs through my head all time. Sometimes I actually think I better not say that. But very rarely, normally I just say it. Lisa, when do you decide like when it's time to confront someone for drama versus when you're just like, it's not worth my time. I'm not going to address it.

Well, if they're just being ridiculous, maybe let them have their moment, you know, let everybody else tell them. But if I feel somebody's lying to me, that's it. If I feel that, you know, yeah, then I'm going to call them out. That's my killer's heel.

Can you give any of the girls listening advice? Like when someone just like doesn't like you and has it out for you, like give us advice. Like how do we handle that? I think you should look at statistics in the world as a woman that's grown up, you know, amongst many, many people. I've not been sitting in an office every day. I've been like around the restaurant business. Hmm.

There's seven and a half or whatever it is, billion people in this planet. If somebody doesn't like you, then fuck them. You know what I mean? I mean, I do think also, I do think you should look at things and think, okay, why are they behaving like this? Often it's jealousy. If you can think, okay...

they don't have a good reason. Really look at yourself objectively. You know, a friend of mine was going through this relationship and kind of split up with their significant other. And I can see this person is a very strong person. I kept saying, maybe you should look at how, you know, what your part is.

in the relationship. Sometimes I think, you know, try and have a good look at yourself and your own actions and grow from that. But if somebody doesn't like you, they don't have to as well. You know, sometimes you feel this kind of visceral reaction that I don't really like that person.

Right. Then piss off. Bye. Exactly. There's somebody else around the corner. Okay. We're going to play a game. Yes. Never have I ever Bravo edition. If you've ever been in one of these scenarios, tell the story. Okay. Okay. Never have I ever gotten a drink thrown in my face.

No, I've been there when one. Oh, no, I wasn't there. That was Brandy Glanville chucking one in Eileen's face. No, I haven't had a drink thrown in my face. That's amazing. Which owning a bar, that's pretty cool. Have you had one? Have you had one thrown in your face? I have never had one thrown in my face. Have you ever thrown one? I think it's a.

Okay, it's common on Bravo, I feel like. Yes, Darcy's done it a few times. Right, everyone's chucking shit in people's face. No, I normally drink it rather than throw it. If something's coming for me, I think, oh, I need to drink this. I'll swallow it whole. You're like, oh shit, gotta get drunk. What are they coming at me for? What is the fastest way to piss you off?

are lying to me. I don't like late either, really. I mean, I know I was 10 minutes late here because I was like juggling with things. I've got to meet you at 1130 and I was like, yeah, you've got to delay it. But I don't like people, I think it's disrespectful when you're late because I think you're basically telling somebody that, you know, your time is worth much more than theirs. I don't like that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Okay. Never have I ever known a castmate's partner was cheating. Yes. Yeah.

You have. In what circumstance? Well, there was somebody that recently had this kind of complicated scenario. Yeah. In one of the shows, I'm not telling you. And I kind of knew. Yeah. I've known. Yeah. And in that situation, did you say something to the person or you just let it be? No, I didn't say anything. Why didn't you say anything? Because sometimes people don't want to hear it. You know what I find surprising? Yeah.

is that they're on a reality show. It's like, and they're living their lives. And of course all marriages have problems. You know, anybody that says, oh, he's perfect, my love, my king, my this, my that. I'm like, fuck off. It's like your husband, get real. It's like sometimes you want to strangle them. Sometimes like, yeah, there's parts of it. You know, like, I'm like, if you snore one more time, I'm going to put the pillow over your head. You know what I mean? Like, you've got a choice here. Is this a spare pillow? Right.

was divorced but it's like then suddenly they get divorced but they've been saying oh love me not my king or my this or my that that's not like that you've got two imperfect people living together that it's not you know and that's bullshit and then on the reality show suddenly how many times have you seen this especially on that show that I used to be on how many times everything's just going gosh just fine and then oh we're getting a divorce oh okay you know or

oh we've just separated oh we've separated when it's been going on for months and years right and it's not like you're not being authentic on camera because obviously I also do agree with you though when people are like my honey bunny we're perfect yeah like yeah what the fuck is wrong really going on like I don't believe this for a fucking second honey bunny get the fuck

down here like the cameras are gone we have so much sex we're so happy yeah exactly let's hear the truth right we've been married a long time and we have you know a lot of good moments and he's got a sense of humor and he indulges me in so many things like you know luckily he's got the same passions I have the fact we've got seven dogs I mean most men would be like you know he'd never say like you know when you see these guys they go oh does this dog shed

it's a dog yes Ken would never say anything like that you know like right I'm actually curious when you said you didn't tell the person because they don't want to hear it I feel like a lot of times there's also where you're like because they know yeah sometimes I think right also they're not I often think if you say too much unless then I think that you lose both of them you know what I mean

Right. Like if you get involved, it's not your place. Yeah. Especially if they get barging in.

That's when it gets so awkward. No, but you're right, Lisa. It's like, if you told this woman this, one, sometimes they don't want to believe it. So then it comes back on you and then they both hate you. Or if they do break up and get back together, then they're like, it's too awkward. We can't see you ever. Yeah, exactly. This didn't happen. So you got to go away. Okay. Can I, it's got to either be Kyle or Doreen.

No, you're not guessing or doing or saying anything because that is not a headline I'm living with. So no, it's not either of them. It could be, but it's not. Okay, fair. Okay, fair. Okay, fair. How did it make you feel when people were convinced that you did know about Tom and Raquel's like affair for so long? Oh, I didn't really even know that. Did they think that I knew? Yeah, there was like a conspiracy during all of it. Oh God, no, no.

no no no no I didn't know I did say well hold on a second you know in the kitchen that time I was like Miss Malibu's in the jacuzzi and I said that's not you know that's not okay I mean and Ariana was vociferous in saying no no no she's my friend I'm fine with that and I said well

I wouldn't be fine with that if I was away on the other side of town and Miss Malibu was in the jacuzzi with whoever she is, whether it's Raquel or any beauty queen, was in the jacuzzi with my husband when I was away. No. No.

That's not okay. Is this what we call Raquel now, Miss Malibu? Well, I do. I mean, I'm just saying, or Miss, you know, whoever, Texas or any gorgeous creature, and I'm on the other side of the country and she's sitting in the jacuzzi, whether she's got malintent or not, my husband would definitely be thinking, oh, I wonder how long my wife's staying away for. You know what I mean? It's like, no. So if I'd known, I wouldn't have been saying that. Yeah, you know, you're right. And also, I wouldn't have condoned.

If my husband was in a hot tub with a woman. Yes. When you're away. Dead. Yeah. Death. Yeah, exactly. Get out. By, yeah, penis. Yeah, exactly. Snip, snip. Yes, exactly. Oops.

highway exactly right so yeah okay and that was and I was calling it I wouldn't have been calling it if I'd if I'd known I was saying hold on a second I said you lied she just came in looking like a bag of shit remember for the food tasting yeah I said what are you doing you look like a

Wreck, you're late. What's going on? And they were like, oh, no, we're good friends. And, you know, Ariana was saying, oh, we're good friends should never do that. Well, you know. Yeah. So, no, I didn't know. But that's also when you feel a gut feeling. Yeah. It's usually right. Yeah. It's usually right. But my job on that show is to sort this hot mess out. So that is something if I had known, I would have said, hey, guys, you know, that is. Let's get it together. Yeah, but she was so vocal about defending Wreck.

But I think that's what took it to a whole different level. And then Raquel asking her about her sex life while she was banging her husband or boyfriend. That was one of the weirdest. That felt sociopathic to me. That felt like I don't give a fuck about anybody's thoughts or feelings. It doesn't permeate. Right. If anything, I'm like interested to know what like your experience is because I'm having it at the same time. How often does he? Yeah.

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never have ever brought the receipts to prove a point in an argument like showed the text message showed the emails oh i think i've done that but i don't know probably on housewives or uh yeah yeah like i think i'm not i don't really have a paper trail it kind of like things go by i remember um you know i remember somebody like lisa rinner i said oh god i hardly ever speak to you on the phone i've got receipts 10 for

- 10 phone calls and I'm like, well, that's all dear. - You're like 10 phone calls, that's nothing. - 10 phone calls this year is nothing. If I liked you, I'd have called you 10 times this morning. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know, it's such nonsense. - Are you good at keeping secrets for people? - Very good, yeah, very good. - You're like a vault. - Yeah. - I love that. - Yeah. - That's good. - But it's not because I'm loyal, it's 'cause I forget. - I'm obsessed with you.

They tell you like this deep, dark secret a couple months later. Hold on a second. Is it you that Shaq? Oh, yes, maybe. Lisa! Okay, never have I ever participated in swinging. No. Oh. But my parents have. No way. Wait, how did you know? Well, it was the 60s. Oh, my God. My father's still alive. I hope this doesn't kill him. This doesn't go to England, does it? It does what?

This is what ends it all. Stop. How did you know your parents were swinging? I remember them talking about the 60s. You know, they were like young, newly married and everybody was kind of doing that a bit, you know. They didn't give me details. I think they gave details to my nephew. They're one of their grandsons. And I was like, oh, I really don't want to even think about that. When I saw, you know, Jon Hamm. Yeah.

And I didn't, yeah, and I heard, I didn't know about his nether regions as well. Somebody told me that afterwards. I was saying Jon Hamm, and they went, well, you know about Jon Hamm. Wait, I don't know about Jon Hamm. Oh, yeah. Does he have a big penis? No, no, but they were talking about it. There's many, I mean, it should have its own Instagram, apparently. Yeah.

I said that but I mean there were these pictures of saying oh really yeah no but it was covered it was decent but it was but it was big but yeah but we were laughing yeah oh and you're like oh Ken should we swing to the left here with John O'Hanlon oh no you'd have to wake me up and give me a cup of tea first no no no I don't have the energy for swinging has anyone ever approached you to swing

I think I might have had hints. Oh. You know, but it's kind of insulting. I would like people to approach me on a daily basis. If you're listening to this, you want to swing, please ask me. No, it's like...

I think I was so obsessively, I'm a little jealous as well. I think obsessively in love with my husband, getting married so quick and being so young. You couldn't see him with another woman? No, I don't really want to share him. I could have somebody. I don't think that would be quite what he was envisaging. Yeah.

Like, oh, see that really handsome guy over there? Should we swing with him? That's probably not what he would be up for. Or if you're super jealous, you would, like, be with the other woman's, like, husband and you'd be, like, hanging out. Looking at my shoulder. You'd be like, what is Ken doing? Exactly. I'd be like, oh, my God. Ken! I'd be on all fours. And I'd be like, what?

What's he doing? I'd be way more interested in what he was doing than what I was doing. I'm upset. No, I haven't. The answer, never have I ever. Okay, never have ever. I'm probably at this stage not going to. That's kind of sad. It's okay, but you know. Well, mind you, I put it out there now. Maybe I'll get lots of opportunities. Oh, I bet there's going to be so many people now. So many people. Oh, I'll pass. I'd rather have a cup of tea. Okay.

Okay, never have I ever. Well, when you've been married, as long as I have, like how many, let's think, so 42 years, so that's going to be like 14,000 days roughly. Oh my God. Do you think there's anything that I haven't done that I need to do? Probably not. I mean, there's things I haven't done, but there are things I haven't done that I haven't wanted to do. Have you ever, like, are you? No. No. Go on.

I'm like, do you want me to ask you a couple sexual questions? No, not really. Okay. Never have I ever shared a secret with a castmate and then they went and shared it on camera.

Gosh, I don't remember that. I'm sure it's happened. No, but I do remember. Now, I haven't watched Beverly Hills. I don't care what anybody says. I haven't watched it. I've seen sometimes snippets on Twitter where they'll have like a little screen thing and you click on it. I think, oh, I wonder what's going on. It was Erica Jane and Kyle. And she said something like, Erica Jane said, oh, you said I'm glad that everybody's going to see how mean Cathy is or what she's really like. Yeah.

You know, and Kyle turned around and said, yeah, but that was supposed to be between us. No, no. Yes. And I thought, oh my God. Yeah, no. But that feels like a theme in reality TV where wasn't it like Lala and Katie in the reunion? It was like Lala was upset with Katie because she's like, you literally said that you were like basically hating on Ariana to me off camera and then you're acting all nice on camera. Yeah, I don't like that. I think it's just keep it straight. Right. And also-

As I say, my mind's so full of other things, I find that it's much easier just to play the one, you know, play it as it is. Right. Because I can't remember what's on camera, what's off camera, what I did yesterday, what I did today. And it's just like when people say, oh, you're lying. My memory's not good enough to lie. I have to speak from experience. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like I remember things concisely, you know, absolutely when I experience them. Right. If I'm making it up, I don't remember what I made up.

That's a good point. Yeah, no, no. Do you think though now people with social media are getting like too afraid to act certain ways in front of camera because of what like the public and the comments are going to say? I think the most popular reality stars are people that are truly authentic and don't give a fuck.

I mean, I think one of the best reality stars I've ever worked with is James Kennedy. And he's got it wrong on so many levels. So good. And he's seen so much growth with him. He's so entertaining. Do you think that I still have the infamous scene back in the day when he was talking to Lala and they're like yelling about pasta and everyone was like, this has to be about drugs. This has to be about cocaine. Do you think it's actually about pasta? No, I think it's not about that. Yeah, it's not.

It's not about the pasta. That was one of the funniest scenes. I think, yeah, that is one. It was kind of iconic that it was on t-shirts after. I don't know, really. I mean, they've both been pretty open. Yeah. And I think I love the duo together. I can't imagine those two when they say they've had sex a couple of times. It's like, that just doesn't seem to me. How do they ever get there, those two? It doesn't mean... It doesn't make sense to me either. I feel like she's such a woman. I don't like either.

You can't text. I'm not. I'm looking because my meeting's at 11.30. No, it's 10.50. Yeah. You have time. It's 10.51. Oh, oh, no.

my god i actually can't picture lala and him having sex either because i feel like the cup of tea that they offered me when i first came in was so nice said no one ever get you tea they said would you like anything i said oh cup to be great never happened can someone text charlie for a cup of tea yeah how much tea do you drink during the day a lot probably too much really yeah but more tea than alcohol which is kind of unique do you ever spike your tea a little bit what with alcohol yeah

No. That was quite... Is that a good idea or a bad idea? No, I don't think. I don't drink in the day. Very rarely. You never see me drink in the day. I think you can spike your tea a couple times and see where it takes you, Lisa. Well, yeah. I got here without it, really. I probably don't need it. Do you think you'll ever be friends with any of the women again from Housewives? Let me think about that for a moment. No. No. Well, I think if there's a true apology and actually somebody says, you know what?

I really regret it and I'm really sorry I said that and I know I tried to humiliate you or whatever, then yes, there would always be room, but you'll never get that from them. Are you someone that holds grudges? Yeah, I do. Fuck off. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to hold a grudge. I mean, I won't hold a grudge till it's like, if it's detrimental to me. If it's like, you know, if it's eating away at you and you're angry about it, then I think you've got to sort it out.

But if holding a grudge is mean, I'm done. And I don't want to, because I know who you are. I see who you are. You don't have the best intention for me. Now that's a grudge. But if it's something that's eating away at you, that you have that feeling, that's not healthy. I'd rather get rid of that. Like I haven't really been angry about that.

you know housewives I mean I get asked about it a lot I really very rarely ever bring it on myself but if it was eating away at me or something like that then I think okay I need to sort this out so I would always say that as advice if it's eating away at you you need to deal with it but if you could actually go oh I'm done and if that's a grudge yeah hold it hold it tightly I completely agree because I feel like a grudge for me I'm like I want to normalize having grudges more if you know what someone is even if they apologize to me sure clear the air but I still don't like you yeah

And that's okay. Yeah, exactly. That's okay because if I thought you were a good person and you weren't and I got it wrong before and now you've shown me the old expression, you know, fool me once, fool me twice, or shame on you, shame on me. So no, that's a grudge. Yeah, I'm all about it.

about that I'm all about like I'm not gonna be yeah I'm not gonna be stupid you know it's just like if somebody screws you financially in business you're not gonna lend them money again how about that period right okay let's talk about Vanderpump Rules learn from your mistakes my girls yes

Okay, the original cast were employed at your restaurant. Yes. And you were their boss. Yes. What is the most insane thing you've had to fire someone for? Oh, all kinds of things over the years. Running restaurants. I mean, of course, the shagging in the back and everything. I mean, God, I mean, that's stealing. Stealing? Of course. Not on Vanderpump Rules. I mean, in the restaurant business, I've seen so.

things. Oh my God. Just even with people coming in. I mean, imagine you have your house open and you have maybe a thousand people come through that door every night. At some point, you're going to go, what the fuck? How often are they having sex? Not just that, but where's my, where's the big

mirror in my bathroom how did they get it out there during lunch you know stupid shit you know like you think oh my god um yeah there's been a lot of creative ways of stealing that we've caught you know that you think um you know people bring their own liquor and and things like that um yeah i mean stealing a mirror and wine yeah yeah many many things yeah many different things oh

things. Okay, I didn't realize that SIR stands for Sexy Unique Restaurant. It doesn't start, we just put that up next to it, but it was south in Spanish because remember I bought into that restaurant when it was about a tenth of the size to get my visa because I was in the restaurant business and we wanted to stay here so we thought do what we know best. Okay, what is your most sexy and unique quality, Lisa? I'm very tactile.

I mean, you saw the way I make out with my dog. Imagine that. Like, you know, like I am like very, yeah. Listen.

You see the way I do flowers. You see the way I run a business. You see the way I decorate. You see the way I'm with my dog. You see the way I'm like a perfectionist. So, of course, as a lover, and this isn't to those people that want to swing with me because I'd really be a big disappointment. But I'm talking about in the past. If there are a couple of people that approach me to swing, forget it. I'm too lazy for that now. But I'm a perfectionist. So I think even making love, I could be a perfectionist.

Oh, Lisa. Right? That was a good answer. That's sexy, isn't it? Even you're thinking, oh my God, who is this woman? Yeah, that's... I'm just trying to picture it. I'm like, oh my God, it's so sensual. Okay, that's a good answer. Okay, if you had to pick which Vanderpump Rules cast member were you most like in your 20s? Any cast member from all seasons.

I think I'm quite a lot like Stassi in a way. I'm not chucking people, chucking drinks in people's faces, but I was always kind of out for Stassi sees the funny side. Stassi, you know, it was such a disappointment to me when she was let go, but it was a sign of the times. Everybody was, you know, reacting to what was going on in the world. And I agree, I understood that. But I think that if we all look back on what we

what we did when we were younger you know like everybody makes so many mistakes yeah I think that's the whole point of growth you know and as I say in this new show Gordon Ramsay's show seeing people how they developed oh my god how I saw the growth in this show of people like they came in like this and they left like this right so that's to me one of the most exciting things and I think Stassi's taken it and run with it which I think is

great. I agree. I think she had like one of the most iconic like character arcs in that show of just like how she started with Jack. I don't give a fuck and I'm going to say exactly what I want to say. That makes for the best TV like you said James Kennedy. Yeah no apologies. Yeah. That group over the years has been like

Kind of like a little incestuous. Like everyone's kind of getting a little. They've all shagged each other. Oh, my God. A little. What's a lot that according to you, please define any greater incest than I have shown you in that group, please. I was trying to be honest.

be like okay just like calm about it don't try and be anything just tell it how it is what is your stance on like that concept of like homie hopping of like everyone kind of like getting with each other's friends and getting with each other's boyfriends and girlfriends well I mean there's only a few dynamics left to like it's all gone and done right who would we need to hook up um Lala and Schwartz do you think it would ever happen

I wouldn't mind that, actually. I wouldn't mind that. You wouldn't? I mean, Schwartz is very kind. He's kind, but, like, he can't stand up for shit. I know, I know. And Lala needs someone to be like, yeah, I agree with you, I back you. He can't even, like, back himself. Yeah, but maybe he could just carry the baby around and say yes and cuddle and stuff. I've always found him adorable. I know he got it totally wrong. Yes.

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and then saying, no, I won't have that conversation with him. That was what was frustrating. I think maybe if she'd drawn a line in the sand and said, that's it, I don't want to see him ever again. Hope he falls off the side of a cliff. But, you know, it was all very...

You know, I wasn't on Tom's side at all, but I was on the side of empathy. And when the whole world was against him, I've talked about this many times, sitting at the White House Correspondents Dinner and they bring it up, sitting at Adele's concert, they bring it up, seeing it on CNN's headline, it was kind of, the punishment didn't befit the crime. And I mean, of course, I don't condone what he did in any shape or form, but I think when the whole world's against you, sometimes it's a very dangerous thing for, as I saw with my brother, and you feel there's no way out. Yeah, I'm sorry.

at that time and the ovary you know so and when he sat and told me I wouldn't use all of it but he sat and told me and I said as an executive producer guys you have to use this you have to be honest and show him you know in in this moment of just like the suicide ideation scared me now whether some people say you know oh he's acting or oh it's not true it's not authentic I

I don't give a shit. I have experienced suicide firsthand with my brother. And for me, I'd rather not take that chance. So I felt that he did so many great things as well for people over the years. I mean, you know, I was talking to Israel. Do you remember Israel, who actually now works for me? He was telling me how when he used to sleep on the floor, Sandoval used to pay his rent so he wouldn't, you know. So Sandoval has a lot of good qualities.

Do you... He has a girlfriend now, right? Yes. How can... Do you think he's going to cheat on her? Yes. I don't know. Maybe this is the...

No. Maybe this is the one. I don't think that Sandoval, from my knowledge, is that sexually motivated. Because I think he said that, I just don't think he's that kind of guy. You know where there's a lot of guys that just jag anything. I don't think he's like that. But I think this girl apparently is gorgeous. Oh. I thought the tea was coming.

Is it coming? So is Christmas. They're working on it. I think they probably didn't know like if we they were allowed to interrupt because sometimes I'm like lock the door don't come in here. Oh really? Oh yeah I'm like get out of my studio. Oh okay let's talk about you being what kind of boss are you? I'm like I'm locking my

myself in this room don't bother me because I don't want to interrupt that's good what if you were saying something so brilliant and the door probably not gonna happen I feel like the it kind of ended this season and it was like the friend group is a disaster we've been in that that place before but do you think it's gonna continue like well I think the thing is with this show it's

is I think that people feel very attached to it because they've grown up with it. And there's been, at some point, somebody will identify with one of them in the group. And I think that it will be hard for people really to let it go. So do I think it will be back? Yes. Do I think it needs to breathe? Yes. Am I totally busy and so, you know, opening another restaurant? Yes. So I think let's just give it a minute. Let everybody live their life. I have a pitch for you. Go on then.

I say no because yeah I think I'm so busy but I think that the next season of Vanderpump yes should be you getting everyone in a room yes and firing all them and swinging oh no swinging you're

You're like, Lala, get over here. Katie, get over here. And you fire all of them. Yeah. And you push them to a different show that's more like grown up or whatever. And you bring a whole new cast in and you start fresh and everyone works at Sir and it's all young talent. And these kids like have no Instagram following yet and you start fresh. Like I would die to watch kids back in at Sir like trying to make it in the acting or modeling agency and like get back at it. And I have many of them, but I do have three

shows on the air i know i know but i'm living la so i'm like addicted to the la but i know i know you know what from your mouth to god's ears that might be a thought can you imagine the season here's your tea what is this oh my god black tea with milk green tea or herbal tea black tea with milk i like your dungarees i said that when i came in i like your dungarees dungarees yeah what do you what do you call overalls overalls no they're dungarees

yeah which one black tea and milk try it try them all i'm worried about it i'm worried about it too you know i never understand why people leave the tea bag in it what do they say expect us to chew on it my assistant's gonna fucking start crying she's literally like okay let's try it black tea and milk yeah you can just throw it on the side table it doesn't matter yeah i mean i like the color of the cup it's pink it's cute yeah but the teas are disaster awful

Oh, you wanted it black. No, I wanted it lighter. Lighter. Light the color of the wood. It's a disaster. Pasta hits really nice. Oh, I love this tea. Said no one ever.

Now, my assistant's crying in the corner now. It's better now that I loved her dungarees, I told you. I love her dungarees. Say overalls in American. Overalls. Overalls. I love her overalls. Oh, my God. You like it? Wait, say. Shall I speak with American accent all the time? Wait, yes. You like that? Say cheeseburger. Cheeseburger. Huh?

Oh, this really works for me. Say, say, Donut, I love Call Her Daddy. Donut, I love Call Her Daddy. Or do you like it like this? Donut, I love Call Her Daddy. So do you like my pitch? I can't say, but... You like it. It's not necessarily your pitch. Somebody might have got there before you.

Okay, but like the drama of everyone getting fired. Oh, I'm not going to start opening. I have a loyalty to these people. No, but you wouldn't actually be firing. I'd say, welcome back. I've signed you back just for one episode. Bye. No. There are still stories to tell.

Oh, Lisa. Okay. What projects? Obviously the season is wrapped. So talk to me about your other projects. Gordon Ramsay. That was epic working with him for two months. I mean, Gordon's like a lot to handle. So I thought, okay, but we knew each other before. So I knew that it was going to be backwards and forwards, you know, but I think for him, it was very different because normally he's the authoritarian and everything he does. And then he met me.

So yeah, it's definitely a different show. Did you put him in his place? Well, yeah, I kind of enjoyed doing that a little bit. Oh, you got a little excited. Not a little bit. A lot. Okay. Last two questions. What is the best part and worst part of essentially living your life on TV?

I don't like it when people lie about you. That's the worst part. The best part, there are so many beautiful things that have been forever documented. Good times, bad times. My daughter's wedding. My little grandbaby crawling across, you know, the carpet. Like, I mean, when we filmed him, you know, just once or twice. Vanderpump Villa, seeing the beauty and the experience that we all had there. Wonderful, wonderful moments. Really, really...

my life hasn't changed that much. Not like some people when they, you know, on television. I mean, of course the fame and everything, but I spent a lot of time at home and I'm still in my restaurants. Um, but you know, when you met me on television, I had a beautiful house. I'd had 37 restaurants prior to that, that we'd sold, you know, and, um,

I had a, you know, a nice lifestyle. It wasn't like some people, they start and then they get this incredible lifestyle and don't know how to handle it. My life materially hasn't changed. You're, you're, yeah. Well, not always, but I mean, when you first sent it, sorry. Yeah, exactly. So that hasn't changed, but it's,

The incredible experiences that I've had. Being able to go to Congress to change laws about humane treatment of dogs. Congress watched Housewives. I mean, so having access to so many things, being voted, you know, one of the Women of the Year by State Assembly. Like just, I mean, speaking at causes that I'm passionate about, being given so many opportunities. Can't minimize that ever. What do you think is the biggest misconception about you? That I'm a homemaker.

I don't mind people thinking that I just feel really sometimes I'm thinking oh am I disappointing them when I show up on my own and I'm doing my own makeup I'm thinking maybe they would like me to be like certain members of housewives when I had you know all this shit and people running around after me I can't even get a cup of tea in this place okay I feel like I have to ask you this it's my last question I just need to know now that you've told me all these little things um

Lisa Vanderpump. Yes. What is your favorite sex position? Oh God, it's so long ago. I don't remember. I think it's on my back asleep. And on that note, good night. Thank you so much for coming on. This was so fun. Thank you. I thought that would have been your first question. That's what I was prepared for. I actually said, Bob, are they going to be talking about like sex all the time? So it's going to be a very short interview if they do.

I mean, I could ask you if you have any blowjob tips. Oh yeah. All of them. Just all of it. Just do it. Swallow it whole. Bye darling. Love you. I have to go. Thank you. Of course. Thank you. You're hilarious. Oh my God. No, thank you so much. You finally got your tea. Yes. And it ain't that good. It's better than nothing.

Thank you.