20: The Antarctica Conspiracies | Red Thread 01:44:36

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Ice surrounds you entirely. The cold, harsh wind bellows against you, assaulting your senses relentlessly. You curse your gods for creating an environment so devoid of any semblance of comfort. Trudging through the snow, you curse others still with every step. Suddenly, the ice below your feet disappears and you fall forward with a harsh thud.

But the action doesn't stop there. You roll and tumble down a relentless slope into a dark cavern. What feels like an eternity of rolling ends suddenly as you come to a standstill. Covered in the blistering snow, you aim to orient yourself quickly. Where had you fallen? Your eyes adjust to the darkness quickly and you find yourself in a metallic room, having fallen through the ceiling. Futuristic panels adorn the walls, shouting scientific readings that make very little sense to you.

There is no way back behind you or back up, so you can only progress forward. The empty and abandoned halls make way into a much larger chamber. Several futuristic pods stand proudly in the center of the imposing room. Your eyes are so struck by the advanced technology standing before you that it takes several moments for them to notice the large flags decorating the chamber's walls.

Faded red fabric gives way to large black swastikas. The iconography doesn't stop your curiosity. Clearly the facility had been abandoned long ago. You push forward towards the center of the room, your bravery indomitable in the face of the vestiges of Nazism. The mechanical device, a large human-sized pod, now stands before you, and it's simply like nothing you've seen before.

Large tubes extend out from beyond the central mechanism like tentacles from a metallic octopus. There is a large window on the main canister, frosted over from the cold. Your shaky hands reach out, nervous to pull away the curtain that is keeping you from peeking inside. You wipe and wipe, your fingers and your palm burning as they do so. The ice, having sat dormant for decades, cracks and chips away, leaving only a window into a sea of possibilities.

He's a-- He's a-- He's a Nazi.

Isn't that the age-old joke that Walt Disney's a Nazi? Yeah. It wasn't necessarily that. It was that he was an anti-Semite who cryo-sweat himself. Yeah, okay, it's true. But he also met with Nazi leadership, I think. Did he? Something like that. Yeah, apparently he was...

like in the line of Ford and stuff like that, like big fans of like Germany in the 30s right before, you know. I had no idea. That sounds like a red thread in and of itself. I didn't know that. I just knew he was like a well-documented anti-Semite.

They were all well connected to each other. I think Hitler, I know he dropped Ford's name in mind comp. I think he mentions Disney. I think, what does he say? Just shout out to my boy wall. What do you mean? Well, I don't know what he says about wall. I know about Ford. He talks about like his success in industry and stuff like that. Um,

But I don't know. And he did that for Disney? Or you don't know that he did it for Disney? I think he did. I might be wrong. I know that all those big leaders were in cahoots. Like, you know, I really like the idea of a very sufficient government and group of people. Hey, what are you doing, Adolf? Wait, no. No, not like that. No. Yeah.

Yeah, so I don't know Walt Disney. I don't know if he was a Nazi or anything, but he at least was... The joke is there. He was friendly, or at least he was acquainted with Nazis at some point in time. And also the joke is that he's an anti-Semite and also...

So it all came together in my head. It's all I could do with Antarctica for some reason. That's where it went. Anyway, that's Walt Disney and the Nazism. And this is the Red Thread. What other mysteries are we going to uncover in Antarctica this week? Only one way to find out. And that's by joining us as we go over just what kind of shenanigans are going on down here in that cold, distant land to our south.

I'm Jackson. We've got Isaiah. Isaiah's here and Charlie's also here. Howdy, howdy. What is Antarctica, boys? What is the Antarctic conspiracy? Do you guys know? I don't know which one we're covering, but there's a bunch of different ones, actually. Like the most common one is the one in Flat Earth Theories where Antarctica is the edge of the world and you're not allowed beyond the ice barrier. That kind of stuff. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, that is a good one. Do

We're going the opposite direction this week, though. We're actually going the hollow earth theory, which is what the predominant theory that I found was. Isaiah, you were the one that recommended it this week. Yes, because I'm right up my alley. Yeah, you gave me a few different like jumping off points to research. And this is what I landed on the whole hollow earth. I have to say I'm so proud of you for one. Oh, thank you.

Thank you for indoctrinating me into the Antarctica rabbit hole. What's that meme caption? This is just a little glimpse into my sick and twisted mind.

You truly are the Joker of the Red Thread. What is the Antarctica conspiracy to you? Well, it's a lot, you know, it's family. No, so the Antarctica conspiracy is very cool because I find it so fascinating that such a large portion of the Earth's geography is just nothing.

You can't really travel there without extreme precautions. You can't build there unless it's a research base. It is so inhospitable. So naturally, different empires within recent centuries have been interested in it to see what can be done. So I love the idea that hidden from public view, something was done. And now we're kind of like finding remnants or records of it. Yeah.

It's such a fascinating mystery. It's very national treasure to me. I love it. Yeah, it's very like Uncharted to me, like the Uncharted games. It's like this ancient kind of land just like filled with possibilities because obviously like only 0.01% of humanity ever goes there basically. So it's just like...

fertile ground for these kind of conspiracies to crop up from. I mean, this show, this episode on Antarctic conspiracies could have gone on forever, probably. There's just so many different conspiracies. Charlie pointed out one. Isaiah, you pointed out another to me anyway, the whole Earth stuff. So just a bunch of conspiracies there, but we're just going to limit it exclusively to

to the hollow earth theory this this episode i mean we can bring it up other stuff anecdotally and stuff but my research let's say uh was exclusively focused on that kind of uh aspect before we go on though uh some housekeeping just just to put the episode in order because i like order in in our shows so show notes down below which are basically just i

At this point, just a giant pile of conspiratorial ramblings. So those are linked below. There's also some pictures of Hitler in there. That's not like totally random or anything. They do play a part. But yeah, you can go check out the show notes whenever you feel like it. It could save your life the next time you're stranded in Antarctica. It is basically a survival guide when you really think about it. We're also on audio platforms where you can listen to us with your eyes.

Wait, no, your ears. It's your ears that listen. You could listen to us using your ears on audio platforms. And also, if you're listening to us on audio platforms, you can find us on YouTube so you can see our faces when we talk about these conspiracies.

And this episode was brought to you by all of the mums out there in our audience. Do you guys remember last week when I brought up the mums? Yeah, of course. It goes even deeper, guys. There are way more mums than we even initially thought last week. So many sweet messages poured in in the comments and stuff. Very sweet. Like, not even just mums, guys. Grandmothers as well. Grandmothers are watching this show. It's about time.

We're reaching a whole new audience. So good. Yeah, I also put up a poll on the audio platforms last week asking how many mums there were in the audience. Someone's at my doorbell. I'm going to see if it's Walt Disney here to assassinate me. It's probably just a grandmother bringing cookies saying thanks for the good work.

So our mum audience is sitting at about 10%. So that's pretty good. That's good. Yeah, I'd like to see some dads out there too, maybe. That would be nice. So if you're a dad, let us know. Yeah, just want to get the family all together, really. But regardless, thanks for watching the show. Thanks for sharing it, rating it, all that good stuff. It really helps out. And we do so appreciate it.

But that's it for show notes and kind of housekeeping. So we can start talking about Antarctica, the premier holiday destination. People do go there, right? Like in terms of not just research, like you can take cruises there, I think. They don't go to stay or anything. They go for like a really short visit. Like it's super ephemeral. They get out immediately. Pretty much. You can only spend like a day or two, I think.

apologies it was just ups is pretty lame well you haven't opened the package yet it could still be something that's true it could kill me we'll find out it's just a bomb just a just a ups delivered bomb from boeing

I will say real quick to clarify, because I feel kind of bad about saying that there's no evidence of Disney having met Hitler. Hitler liked Disney shorts and Disney met with German like animators and stuff who became Nazis during the war. So to not to not directly tie him in. It seems like Walt Disney was a SS officer, if I'm being honest. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, okay. That's taken me off kilter. So Antarctica, back to Antarctica. We've got to kind of avoid Hitler for now and then focus on Antarctica. He'll be back though in a big way. Yeah, he will be back. Antarctica, for those of you that don't know, it's a giant landmass down south at the pole. It's one of the most desolate places on planet Earth.

You surely who doesn't know about Antarctica, right? People know about Antarctica. I feel stupid even just say those sentences. You sound stupid saying them. Yeah, I know. I mean, it's possible.

And Antarctica holds many secrets, or at least it's said to. Amidst the icy expanse, there are tales of clandestine activities, the vestiges of secret Nazi missions, and firsthand reports of truly wild phenomena, including hidden societies that may or may not lay below the earth.

So that's all down in Antarctica. You may know about Antarctica, but you don't really know about Antarctica until now, until this episode of Red Thread. In 1938, the state of Germany sent an expedition led by German Navy Captain Alfred Reischer, a World War I naval commander, to Antarctica. This was said to be mainly in pursuit of establishing a whaling station.

Whale oil was extremely common in Germany at the time, especially for making margarine and soaps, but also for things like explosives, like glycerin, a compound derived from whale oil that was used in production of nitroglycerin, which is a key ingredient in explosives.

They were dependent on imported oil. They were actually the second largest purchaser of Norwegian whale oil, over 200,000 tons a year, and were concerned with the imposing war looming. Alfred and his team were also tasked with the objective of completing scientific studies of the barely known region to gain knowledge on its biology, geography, and climate. And there's a picture of them in Antarctica.

Well, it's on a boat. I don't know if they're at Antarctica yet. They might be just leaving. I'm not sure. They look pretty happy there, so maybe they just left. It's also not super heavy clothing, so you're probably right. Yeah, true. I will say, speaking of clothing, one of...

Other than the obvious. It is tragic that they took the leather trench coats from us. Putting your officer in leather coats was so cool, and they ruined it forever. Forever. And the color red and black. Red and black is my favorite. Well, it's really edgy, but my favorite color palette. It's such a clean look. You can still use red and black, just don't put it with a swastika. You're probably fine. If you're wearing...

red and black and any of that black is like shiny or like a leather coat you can't do that oh yeah you can't wear it on leather but jackson doesn't strike me as a leather guy i'm yeah not really i guess who does strike you as a leather guy charlie what do you mean you should see my trench coat collection i don't know you just don't get the vibe of a guy that wear a trench coat or leather i

I don't know. Is that a compliment or an insult? No, it's a compliment. You don't want to be that guy. Okay, good, good, good, good, good. I'm just saying you can wear red and black, and I don't think people would confuse you for a Nazi enthusiast.

You have to be careful wearing it. I'll say that. First of all, it's the internet. Everyone confuses everyone for Nazis on the internet. And also we just did with Disney. So we're not innocent. Not because he was wearing red and black, but because he's an actual anti-Semite who apparently used to play chess with Nazis or whatever, according to Isaiah. Some cases more likely than others. Yes.

um yeah okay do you want to continue alfred reicher had received the news to prepare for the secret expedition in july and by december they left there had only been a few short months to complete any necessary repairs on their ship the ms schwaf blonde and the two sea planes boreas and passat on december 17th 18 crew members scientists enlisted men as well as navy officers left hamburg for antarctica

A month later, they arrived at the area claimed by Norway called Queen Mod Land. Even so, they pursued rejecting Norway's claim and continuing with their mission. They used their seaplanes to begin to survey the area. They called their newfound area New Schwabenland or New Swabia. God, that sounds terrible. Schwabenland. New Schwabenland. Kurgen, flurgen, mergen.

The German language is so interesting to me because it is so, like, it's just so wordy, you know, so many letters, so many different, like, syllables. To me, it's very Rick and Morty-esque. Schwabenwand. Yeah. Nusswabier sounds kind of cool, I guess. Nusswabier is kind of cool, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, just a quick note, you said 18 crew members. It was 82. Oh, 82. Sorry. It's all good.

Just want to clarify. The expedition did not last for very long. They had a few issues during the trip. They were low on fuel and needing to lighten the load on board, and they resorted to throwing extra gear overboard. Included in this was boxes of never-recovered small metal swastikas intended to be spread across their claim of Antarctica. I don't know. Were they just handing it out to penguins? What the heck? Like breadcrumbs? Small? What? No.

Okay. And so they could find their way back. Yeah, way back to the bases. In case there's a blizzard. That sounds like a Austin Powers skit. Like, oh, the evil Nazi scientist leaves a trail of swats in case they get lost.

They left February 5th, continuing their research by scanning the seafloor of the Atlantic Ocean. Much of their research was lost during the war and also kept secret until published in 1958. Due to the secrecy of the mission, people began to wonder if the Nazis were perhaps up to something more sinister in Antarctica. In recent years, news has been reporting that a secret Nazi base was discovered called Schatzgraber or Treasure Hunter.

This was a Nazi base that was intended to be a weather station that they had set up. The primary purpose of the station was to gather and transmit meteorological data. That's a hard word.

Meteorological. Yeah, you can't say meteorological. Meteorological. Thank you, Tom. Meteorologists have got like clockwork, but you put logical at the end of that and there's like three O's back to back to back. That's tough. And it was to support German military operations, particularly for Kriegsmarine. Which was the German Navy. Yeah. That's also very impressive that they set up a base that quickly with such a small crew.

I mean, I don't know the scale of the base. Also, I don't know if that was specifically set up from that initial expedition. It was just a base that was discovered. I assume it was because it was in the same kind of research documents that I dug into, but I don't think it was confirmed in that research that I read. Yeah, so the whole setting up the base to...

The name of the base was Treasure Hunter, or in German, Schatzgraber. What treasure were they trying to find in Antarctica? Well, they didn't know. They thought maybe there'd be some kind of deep buried treasure, something. It's an unexplored area. Pirates accidentally landed in Antarctica. They were following a map with a big red X on Antarctica, and that's where they just ended up trying to find their hidden treasure.

Hidden bounty? That would be pretty cool. A lot of the German high command was very spiritual, esoteric history and stuff like that. Hitler himself had a ton of theories about old Egyptian treasures and powers that the pharaohs would yield and stuff like that. I think it was...

It might have been Himmel. One of the top ten or whatever would wear this giant king's robe around and said he was the reincarnation of Charlemagne or whatever. They were very into old kings and ancient powers. So it would stand to reason, if there's nothing known about this uninhabited Iceland, that maybe some part of humanity was there, especially if they're already thinking that way.

Isn't it so strange? I had, like, the perception of the Nazi, uh, like, you know, the Nazi group, whatever you want to call it, the Nazi organization at that time, and the German people as being, like, uh...

Very logical people, very like mechanical kind of like hyper-focused on their goals and just very like order was everything to them. To bring in like the esoteric elements and the spirituality just seems so incongruent with my perception of who they were initially. But digging into this, yeah, they were very, very esoteric people and they had very like

odd uh spiritual beliefs kind of uh as a foundation for the more you know bloodline related stuff as we'll get into eventually um yeah but very very weird that they set up a base down there with the goal of treasure hunting basically well that's what the name suggests anyway

So the German Navy and the Luftwaffe, the German Air Force, stationed a broader network of weather stations that were established by the Nazis in remote locations. But it's theorized that it was actually a base installed in Antarctica with the goal of finding ancient artifacts. The base was established in 1942 at Alexandra Island and had been abandoned after the scientists ate raw polar bear meat that made them violently ill with diseases stemming from ringworm as well as scurvy.

Oh my. Why would they eat it raw? Yeah, I mean, we had the knowledge that you're supposed to cook your food. So they were able to hunt down a polar bear, I assume, but they didn't have the capability to cook for me. Which makes us strong. Like Ancestor.

Over 500 objects and pieces were found at the site when explored by Russian scientists. They discovered bunkers, patrol canisters, and even paper documents. Many items had been preserved by extreme weather conditions. And here's pictures of them, and one of them is like a fucking stogie. They found like a nice little joint or something. I don't know what that is. I think that's a bullet. Oh, it is. Wait, you're right.

It's just a blunt. Yeah. It's just a joint. Yeah. I couldn't tell if it was a cigar or a joint, but yeah, no, it's definitely a bullet. It's neither. That's what they meant by treasure. This was just like the ultimate hangout spot for the Nazis. They just went down there to like hot box in a fucking lab. They discovered the ultimate hot box location. Yeah. So also, can we go back? Did you pronounce Petrel Patrol?

Oh, yeah, you're right. I did say petrol, didn't I? Yeah. Is petrol not a word over in America? We usually call it gas. We don't call it petrol. Yeah, that's so interesting. That's another Australianism. Yeah, so now we move on to some of the more...

esoteric elements of why they were there. There are some weird theories around why Hitler and the Nazis wanted to investigate these icy far lands besides monitoring the weather and scientific research. As stated before, some theorize that they were looking for ancient artifacts, but the question naturally arises, what sort of artifact or ancient history would be there in Arctica? Well, Atlantis, of course.

Let's go. It's about time. It's about time. When did Atlantis come up in a previous episode of Red Thread? Bermuda Triangle, I think. Yeah, it was recent. Yeah, Bermuda. It's always coming up. And Jeffrey Epstein's coming up here soon, no doubt. I can't wait. There was an organization within the Nazis called Amt Rosenberg that was dedicated to finding archaeological evidence of the superiority of the Germanic culture of Atlantis and of Atlantis.

I love the way that's worded. It's like the archaeological evidence of our superiority and also Atlantis. We need to follow that too. It's somehow connected. Yeah, I just love that the evidence they're looking for is like a book that says, yeah, Germanic culture rules. Like,

like they're going to get to Atlantis and they'll find it. There's like a scroll that says like one day there's going to be country called Germany and they're going to be really cool. Yeah. It can be so fucking lit. Yeah. Shouldn't they be fighting like sources of their superiority in the

modern time, not of a civilization that has previously died out. That's part of the whole Aryan thing that Hitler pushed because his idea was... The word Aryan comes from the mountains of...

Like, you know, the old world. And he brings back the word Aryan to kind of astute that we are like the children of these ancient warriors and great minds and esoteric and stuff like that. So all of the evidence he's looking for to justify superiority is from like old records, like lost history and stuff like that.

Yeah, no, I'm more like arguing against the actual fundamental idea of that belief itself. Because like people, even in like the modern times, like right now, people look back at those kind of historical periods and idolize them, like the Roman Empire and stuff. But the Roman Empire failed. It like crumbled. So it's a bit odd to like hyper idolize that when it obviously had very fundamental flaws with it.

Uh, so I, I don't see like pointing back at something like that or in Atlantis, for example, like that, uh, the, the gods hated Atlanta so much that they sunk it. So to go back and be like, well, Atlantis actually shows how great we are kind of like is an interesting take to me. I don't, I don't.

i don't fully subscribe to it well it's that idea that every roller has right like her like hitler was honestly the last of kind of the old ancient idea of the conqueror right of like one person taking an army and being i will control the world because that kind of thing had happened a ton you know alexander the great you know gingus khan stuff like that people who want to control the world and hitler was that in the modern age so similar to them he had this idea of like i'm gonna do it better

They had the right idea, but I know how to learn from their mistakes and be even better at it. Because everyone thinks that the same fallouts won't apply to them. It's arrogance, I mean, most of it. The idea that you're going to be the first to make a perfect empire.

It's also funny to look at Genghis Khan and be like, I want to be like that, but better. I want to be an even more ruthless Genghis Khan. How actually delusional do you have to be to idolize that? The original idea of the Reich was a Roman principle, right? Because that's why he called himself the Third Reich. It was like the third phase of it. So...

Yeah, he looked at these ancient empires and stuff and said, oh, I'll do that, but I'm smart this time. We definitely won't make the same mistakes, said the man who ended up shooting himself in a bunker four years later. Yeah.

Yeah, but he had what they didn't, which was a lot of meth. So he did do it a bit different. You know, that actually is true and probably inspired a lot of these ideas like getting high with the boys and being like, we're going to go to Antarctica. There's going to be Atlantis. Yeah, yeah. They are literally setting more and more like stoners as time goes on. Yeah, yeah. Pretty much.

So it was supported by the Thule Society, a German occultist and nationalist group founded in 1918, known for its belief in the superiority of the Aryan race and its interest in esoteric and mystical theories. Amt Rosenberg was headed by Alfred Rosenberg, who thought that the people of Germany were survivors from Atlantis that had moved to Germany, seeing them as a distinct race.

These beliefs didn't just take them to Antarctica, but also Tibet as well. In a race to search for the origins of the Aryan race, Henrik Himmler, a leading Nazi figure, believed that Tibet could hold clues to the origins of the Aryan race. In 1938-1939, the SS Anarchist

on the narbi a pseudo-scientific organization dedicated to ancestral heritage research sent an expedition to tibet to investigate these theories study tibetan culture and possibly find evidence of a lost aryan civilization this organization and the missions they undertook reflected the nazi regime's broader obsession with racial purity and esoteric traditions yeah so the the ss on a

Wait, SS Arne Nürbe. So the SS designates that that is like a military organization, right? Or at least like a... It's under the SS, yeah. Yeah, it's an official organization within the Nazi regime. So that's how serious they took this. They set up an entire division, basically. Like the CIA, but dedicated to proving that

they had the racial purity aspect on their side and it was linked to things like Atlantis that's how that's how stoner brained they were I wonder why they lost in Western Europe jeez I have no idea maybe they hyper fixated on fucking Atlantis too much yeah

Adolf, we need more soldiers for the front, nine. Send them to Antarctica. Yeah, they need to get the Antarctica stat. We're going to raise Atlantis. It's also, I can't remember if it's the same organization or like a sister one to it, but you'll hear like the Black Sun mentioned a lot. I believe that has a connection to them, the Anunnerbe, or I could be way off. I could just be.

What was the Black Sun? It's the one that everyone cites as an organization within Nazi Germany that's dedicated to the esoteric studdings and findings and stuff like that. So they were like wizards? Sure, yeah. They're on Hogwarts. Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha!

The Nazis believed in Atlantis due to the influence of pseudoscientific theories popular in early 20th century Europe. Heinrich Himmler and other Nazi leaders were intrigued by the idea that the Aryan race originated from a superior ancient civilization. They adopted the myth of Atlantis popularized by mystics and occultists as the supposed homeland of the Aryans. This belief was part of the broader Nazi agenda to legitimize their racial ideology and historical narratives by linking them to legendary civilizations like

There's an element of historical revisionism here where the Nazis aimed to rewrite history to align with their ideological goals. By claiming that the Aryans were descendants of Atlanteans, they sought to provide a pseudo-historical justification for racial theories and territorial ambitions. Yeah, so they were like, our race is so great and this justifies, like, genociding entire population groups because, uh, Atlantis? Like, that's what they did? Yeah.

Like that was their justification really when it boiled down to it is that we came from like mystical lands. We came, we came from the gods basically, which we, we all knew that already that that's what they believe. But to actually tie into like even more fictional elements is actually like so wild. So funny.

If it wasn't so awful. It seems that the Black Sun symbol was mainly something used by Himmler specifically and wasn't really tied to an organization. It apparently came from a castle that Himmler saw and was like, yes, this is us. So like he would use it or like some SS facilities would use the symbol.

In their design or whatever, but it doesn't look like it was tied to any specific group. So, yes and no that it is related to the Ahnenberg or whatever the name of this group is. Wait, so were the Nazis the original conspiracy theorists? Well, they definitely weren't the original. There were conspiracy theorists before them. Yeah, way, way before then. Now, were they...

uh like one of the largest scale like it put to action yes at least as far as like you know tracing ancestral routes and you know revisionist history and stuff like that um they were one of the i guessed most vocal groups to do it but i mean there's been conspiracy theories since

Well, yeah, no, I don't mean in the sense of, like, you know, Joe down at the local pub talking about, like, flat earth theory or anything. I mean, like, a large-scale organizational aspect. When the Illuminati existed, which was, I think, 1500-1600 in, like, Europe, a bunch of America's founding fathers spoke of, like, their fear of the Illuminati integrating itself into groups like the Freemasons and, like,

establishing political power and stuff like that so you know there's always been kind of theories around that but as far as like ancient history and we actually descend from like these crazy you know forgotten tribes in antarctica yeah like there's not many more popular than hitler and his goons yeah it kind of reminds me of like something from like oh man like assassin's creed like the the templars and something oh god secret organization

At least it's not Star Wars this time. You cannot call Charlie the pop culture guy. You really can't. He's not doing it anymore. He did one earlier. I didn't point it out, but he did one earlier. Oh, he Hogwarts. Yeah, he Hogwarts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you open the floodgates with that. But you, Jackson, made that your thesis. You're like, you know what? All of this tells me.

It's kind of like, insert reference here. Yeah, mine's like a quip. Yours is like, you know, this actually is super reminiscent of the time Darth Bane incited the rule of two in the Sith. Oh, here. The rule of two again? That's all you know. That's all I care about in Star Wars lore.

You know, if you think about it, Hitler and Himmler are kind of like their own Sith. Yeah, it's the initial rule of two. With their own rule of two. Charlie, he's not the reference guy. He's not like the pop culture guy. He's literally just the rule of two guy. That's all he brings up. That's all he knows. He's the rule of two guy. That's his role. Anyway, I'm just trying to like fit... People come to the show for these specific archetypes of us, I think. Like, Isaiah, you're like the brains of the show.

I'm the intro guy, I think. Man, we're in a bad place then. I'm like the intro guy and Charlie is like the pop culture guy, but he's just not doing the pop culture references anymore. That's so not true. I'm so much more than the pop culture guy. I'm also like the pronunciation guy with like the on a nerve and like the luft waft.

To be fair, that's all of us. We have all collectively mispronounced things over the run of this series a lot, according to the comments, anyway. That's fine. Yeah, we can share that role. All right. Let's move on to Operation High Jump and Richard Bird's Secret Diary. So...

The early 20th century saw a rise in pseudoscientific theories and speculative archaeology. Figures like Halina Blavatsky and Rudolf Steiner popularized the idea of Atlantis as a lost ancient civilization.

These ideas influenced the Nazi leadership who incorporated them into their own ideology. For example, Helena Blavatsky, who died in 1891, a founder of the Theosophical Society, drew upon a variety of sources to support her theories. Theosophical, would that be like combining...

Old history with, like, gods and... Yeah, like, theology. And that's a weird... Theology and philosophy, I would assume. You would think... Is an organization...

Is an esoteric new religious movement. Okay, I'm out of my depth. Founder of the society drew upon a variety of sources to support her theories. It was like a kind of like a fringe kind of belief system, but it did influence a lot of people. Actually, I have seen this image so many times. I think I actually brought this up on the conspiracy theory iceberg. The Theosophical Society. Yep, I remember this.

It's the idea that religion and truth are like integrated into one another. All religions have some form of truth in them. We're all giving pieces of what our actual collective memory is. Yeah, all that.

So that's what you were just saying before. She took elements from all these different sources, all

Like all these different religions and these different cultures and kind of gleaned what she wanted out of them in order to paint this picture of, you know, hidden truths. If you look at the picture for like, like their group logo, it's the Ouroboros and then a star of David with the SWAT sticker with a cross with a Islamic sign like it. Yeah. It's pretty much saying everything has some truth. Yeah. Yeah. It's like,

um yeah it's like all encompassing kind of yeah and also like the star of david being made of an upside down triangle and a and a right side up one that are each highlighted the the inversion relates to a lot of pagan beliefs and stuff like that it's like combining everything basically um

Another source was the Secret Doctrine. In her major work, The Secret Doctrine, which was published in 1888, Blavatsky described the history of humanity in terms of root races, one of which was the Atlantean race. She asserted that this knowledge was derived from ancient secret teachings passed down through the ages.

And here's the most important proof. Oh yeah, the most important proof. Clairvoyance and spiritual experiences. Ah yes, the source of a many important healer and wise leader. Blavatsky claimed to have received information through her own spiritual experiences and communications with spiritual beings called the Masters or Mahatmas. She presented these visions as direct evidence of her theories. Yes.

Yeah, they do that a lot. It's literally like the source, trust me, bro. That's still prevalent today. I know. I know it is. We literally just talked about it last week, basically. Yeah, with Jim Jones. Jim Jones, yeah. I hate, too, how, like... Just like they ruined the leather trench coats, they ruined...

Do you know how cool a fictional setting that uses stuff like, oh, well, there was this ancient race that time forgot that lived beneath the waters. But now it's like, oh, yeah, you mean like the Nazis? Do you mean like how they believed? It's like you can't do anything with it. They ruined the fun. I hate it.

Well, the Nazis were known to ruin fun. Yeah. This is their biggest crime, making me feel bad. That's the worst thing they did by far. Yeah. I haven't done a lot of reading into it. I'm not sure what else they got up to, but this has to be the worst for sure.

Atlantis. Ruining Atlantis for me. Really justified World War II. That's why America entered the fray. Just because they were encroaching on Atlantis. I'm glad that, you know, we went and fought them over there. I'm sure there wasn't any other reasons as powerful as this one, of course.

Yeah. Agreed. Yeah.

Regardless, for all intents and purposes, the Nazis seemingly took the claim seriously and were either interested in pursuing the angle for legitimate reasons or because they saw it as a propaganda tool to convince their people that they were a part of the so-called master race.

Yeah, the progenitors of Atlantis, basically. Like, it's all just evidence or supplying the kind of foundation of why they kind of took that route, why they, like, played into the esoteric elements, because it was able to be used to convince their audience that they were better than everyone else. Well, I mean, think about it. If your narrative is that we are, like, not just...

in what we've done, but fundamentally to our genetic code, we're superior than the world, then you have to, you've got to bleed into that narrative, right? That's the reason they took so much care in their appearance. They took so much care with, you know, their development.

like sure people, you know, the, all of the money was being poured into the war effort. And even if Germany one was like at the verge of like an economic collapse or whatever, who cares as long as we present ourselves as superior to everyone else. So you have to, you, you can't question that narrative if it's so mandated in people's minds, right? Like,

Like there has to be a reason that we are superior. So it makes sense why they sank so much time and, you know, mental investment into it. What is Atlantis? Well, the story of Atlantis originates from the works of the ancient Greek philosopher Plato, specifically his dialogues, Timaeus and Critias written around 360 BC. An important note about those dialogues is that Timaeus and Critias are Yu-Gi-Oh cards.

Oh, that is important. Just wanted to make note of that up top. It is important. Well, now you two are tied for pop culture references this episode. We'll see who wins out by the end. Imagine the past where instead of Atlantis fucking Hitler and the Nazis took inspiration from Yu-Gi-Oh instead. They thought they came from the shadow realm. Hold on. I guarantee you there's some fan art out there. Oh,

That is such a curse phrase, fan art of Hitler. I hate that. I found a Hitler Yu-Gi-Oh card, but I don't think that counts. Yeah, it's probably not tournament ready. Yeah, that was probably not an official capacity. Konami went hard on that one. Okay. According to Plato, Atlantis was a powerful and advanced civilization located beyond the Pillars of Hercules, which is now known as the Strait of Gibraltar.

It was said to be a vast island or continent that existed around 9,000 years before his time. Plato describes Atlantis as a utopian society with a highly organized government, advanced technology, and great wealth. However, he also portrayed its downfall due to moral decay and hubris. The gods, angered by the Atlanteans' corruption, caused Atlantis to sink into the ocean, quote, in a single day and night of misfortune.

Figures like Blavatsky would then go on to incorporate Atlantis into their teachings, claiming it was an advanced ancient civilization that influenced human history.

Predominantly Blavatsky's work, along with that of other theosophists, linked Atlantis to the idea of a primordial Aryan race, which is what the Nazis were hyper interested in. Isn't it so interesting that Plato's work with Atlantis or the concept of Atlantis is

was obviously a warning as to human, you know, ego and hubris. It was a warning against that basically. Like don't get, don't get too full headed. Otherwise the gods will smart you down.

And then Hitler and the other theosophists and stuff like that, then took that concept and just filled it with ego. They're like, we're actually great. We're the best because of that. I see the moral of the story. We're to be even better at being superior. That's what it means. Yeah.

I just imagine having like bringing Plato back and showing him what became of his work and what it inspired and being just like completely. Atlantis is fascinating from a like kind of historical theory point of view, because if, if I recall right, Plato never describes it as fictional. He's describing it as like a taught history that's kind of been lost outside of Plato relaying it. Um,

Once again, what the library of Alexandria might've held, but there's a lot of other stories in different religions and stuff like that. Like in the Bible, you have Sodom and Gomorrah in like, um,

I forget what the name of the Norse, they had the idea of like a civilization that was lost for their pride. It's like, maybe it was the Greek influence of a story that did exist and was passed around the time of a city that was destroyed. So it's fascinating for that reason of what it might mean, but I'm with you. I don't think the moral of whatever Plato was talking about was to try harder. Yeah.

Well, not necessarily a try harder, but it was more like remove the ego from the situation. What did the Nazis do? They added an incredible amount of ego. Read aloud and clear, boss. Yeah, they spun it as not the ego being the downfall, but the corruption itself. So like allowing the society to like slowly decay. It's not like the ego. Yeah, they completely...

distorted what the lesson was. Yeah. Also, the Strait of Gibraltar, that's off Spain, isn't it? Where is that? Yeah, it's Spain, I think. Spain or Portugal, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, which for those of you keeping track at home, that's where Plato said Atlantis was. Nowhere near Antarctica, believe it or not. I looked up the map, I confirm. At the same time, in Plato's age, past the Strait of Gibraltar could mean anywhere in the ocean. True. I mean...

Unless he said it's like you can see it off the Strait of Gibraltar or something. But the whole world was past the Strait for everyone else. Yeah, the Strait separates Africa and Europe, right where Spain is. Yeah.

Well, he would have come across Africa first if he was traveling that way to Atlantis. If Atlantis was in Antarctica, that is such a trip for a Greek philosopher. That's an enormous trip. I don't think Plato ever said he saw it. He's speaking about... Because he says it was destroyed 9,000 years before him. So he's just relaying what the ancient history of his time was. But how would he have found out about it? Well, because it was a story. It was stories that were passed down. Yeah.

Okay, so if we're operating under the assumption that this was all legitimate, someone had to tell the story of the destruction and that story passed all the way from Antarctica up to Greece. Well, that goes back to what Hitler and them are saying, that the world used to be some great massive empire and empires spoke to each other. Who knows how long they got? Then there was a sort of reset of humanity. Right.

Okay. That ties back into the forgotten Aryan race and stuff like that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I see the logic. Kind of like Rome, kind of like a fallen Rome, right? Like Rome was so vastly ahead of the time of the people around them, but it was destroyed and it kind of reset culture. Imagine that, but on a larger scale. Yeah. Okay. So August of 1946, shortly after the war, the United States Navy Antarctic Development Program or Operation High Jump was sent to Antarctica.

It was led by Admiral Richard E. Byrd, the youngest admiral in U.S. naval history. Richard was a very experienced aviator and polar explorer, having led many successful expeditions to Antarctica.

Richard was awarded the Medal of Honor for risking his life flying over the North Pole in 1926, as well as many other awards in his career, making him one of the most highly decorated officers in the Navy. Richard was the perfect choice for a secret expedition to Antarctica. What a stud.

He looks pretty cool in that photo. So we got a photo on the screen right now and also in the document show notes. It's Richard standing on the deck of an old ship, of an old naval vessel. And he is just decked out from head to toe in style. This looks pretty cool and very comfortable. He's definitely in Antarctica there, I would assume. That is a strong aura for sure.

Yeah, get it up. Do you have in here, forgive me for not reading through the whole document before the show, do you have in here anything about Alone, the book he wrote?

I have his secret diaries, but I don't know if that's referring to the same thing. So after Operation High Jump and all that, Richard Byrd would go on to be like the first, well, I guess first is hard, the first like well-known at least Antarctica researcher. And during his research, he would spend five months alone in a shack down in Antarctica. And he wrote a book about it called Alone.

That goes into detail about what it was like there. And man, you want to talk about a harrowing story. Like the things that happened to him. He talks about one time he had to go outside of his little hut. His one person shack to repair something. And as soon as he shut the door, he watched the handle freeze over shut. Like couldn't get back in. So he had to like beat it with a shovel to get it back open. He talks about he almost died because the exhaust of the...

shack froze over and he almost died of like um air pollution from the stove he was running like it yeah that guy that guy went through it he was a he was a pretty hardcore guy and yet he still didn't eat raw polar bear meat or find Atlantis well he was alone in a shack what do you mean he wasn't like traveling out there I imagine so you could still look for it

Maybe eating raw polar bears is the key to Atlantis. It's like a rite of passage. Yeah, they were so close. You have to fill your belly with the raw polar bear liver and then approach the secret door. Yep. So, Operation Hide... Sorry, the polar bear got me all choked up.

It's an emotional topic, I get it. It was, yeah. Operation High Jump was to last for six to eight months and was a particularly large operation. There were over 4,000 people involved with 13 U.S. naval ships, six helicopters, two seaplanes, and 15 other crafts like bombers, tankers, or tanker supply ships, and more, as well as the flagship USS Mount Olympus, which was obviously named after yet another ancient Greek setting.

They were fully loaded with the best weapons and ships in the Navy. On paper, the official reason for the expedition was to train and prepare the men and also test the equipment and ships in the weather conditions. They were also researching and examining how air bases could be conducted in the harsh weather.

There was said to be more to Operation Hijab than just training exercises and scientific research. So why were they there? As well as establishing more American power and presence in Antarctica, they were searching for the secret Nazi military base said to be located there. They arrive and established Little America IV. The first had originally been set up by Richard in January 1929.

He was a frequent traveler to Antarctica. Yeah, and it was a very cute name. Little America 4. I will say that one of the reasons, which, I mean, this isn't true because we know the true reason is they were looking for Agartha and Hollow Earth and Antarctica and, I mean, Atlantis and whatnot. But one of the reasons it's believed they might have brought all that firepower is during the end of the war, a lot of the Nazi high command left Europe. We know that there were several U-boats that left

Europe that got away that were never located. And this is where a lot of conspiracies about Nazis hiding in South America come from and stuff like that. There were theories that if the Nazis had a base in Antarctica that several holdout Nazi members might have made an encampment there.

So there was the really real risk that once they get down there, they were going to run into like still fighting Nazis. Armed forces that are dedicated to their cause that they would put up resistance. And plus, like if you're, if you are like an SS officer, you're not having a favorable trial after the war, right? So these guys are going to die before they're captured. So they might, you know, you might run into a pretty hard gunfight. Plus,

Plus, they probably knew that Hitler had been traveling to Antarctica for those weekend blunt sessions. So there's probably some kind of defensive position there. Of course. They didn't know what they were walking into, basically. This is lame. I'm going to go pee real quick, but continue to make pop culture references and talk about Hitler smoking blunts while I'm... All right. You say so.

Little America 4 was set up in the Bay of Wales, an ice harbor north of the Roosevelt Island in Antarctica. The group arrived on January 15, 1947, but only 40 days later, this six-to-eight-month trip was cut short. The mission was terminated, and they were all to return home. The reason said to be because of the early winter approaching and the harsh conditions. On the journey home, they stopped in Chile, where Richard spoke to the local newspaper about the expedition.

Admiral Richard E. Byrd warned today that the United States should adopt measures of protection against the possibility of an invasion of the country of...

Wait, can we just talk about how insane that is? Like, for this admiral to say to a newspaper in Chile, like an entirely different country, that there might be hostile planes coming from Antarctica? Yeah.

That we need to defend against? I like the honesty. You wouldn't get that kind of honesty in this day and age. He's like, listen, the Atlanteans could strike at any moment from the polar regions. We have to prepare ourselves for the worst case scenario, Chile. They've had plenty of time to build an airbase down there. Yeah.

Yeah, so the quote continues. This statement was made as part of a recapitulation of his own polar experience in an exclusive interview with the International News Service. Talking about the recently completed expedition, Byrd said that the most important result of his observations and discoveries is the potential effect that they have in relation to the security of the United States.

The fantastic speed with which the world is shrinking, recalled the Admiral, is one of the most important lessons learned during his recent Antarctic exploration. I have to warn my compatriots that this time has ended when we were able to take refuge in our isolation and rely on the certainty that the distances, the oceans, and the poles were a guarantee of safety. Yeah, so, I mean, conspiracy theorists took this quote, uh,

rightly so on my opinion, uh, that there were Atlanteans on the offensive. He, he went to Antarctica, he saw Atlanteans, he saw the master race and he was like, shit, America is about to be, uh, under attack by an even greater force. Um, and also to that last point about the shrinking, he, he didn't mean that, you know, the planet was hit by a shrink ray from the Atlanteans or anything. He just meant like, uh,

travel has made it so that the world is now smaller and planes can navigate quicker and get to different places quicker. So it's smaller in that capacity, not that it got hit by a shrink ray. Thanks for the clarification. I'm sure there was a lot of people listening like, oh my god. What do you mean? We're talking about conspiracy theories here. Nothing's off the limits. Nothing's out of bounds. I think it's smart to have done that, Jackson. Yeah, it's a defensive position.

He warned that the United States or any country could be attacked at any time. When he returned to America, he was immediately interrogated by officials. He was sworn to secrecy and never again spoke of high jump, which was then classified as top secret. Since then, Operation High Jump has been publicly acknowledged and many scientific findings were disseminated. Aspects related to military training, technology,

Technological testing, strategic reconnaissance, and geopolitical interests were kept confidential to protect national security and maintain a strategic advantage, especially during the early Cold War period.

Do you think the, like the, you know, command, the brass was like, why the fuck did you talk to the Chilean newspaper? Yes, of course. Of course. They were like, what? Why did you do that? You're an admiral. You're not Mr. E-Bird, you're Admiral E-Bird. Why was the first thing you did when you hopped off the Chilean boat?

talk about an impeding invasion from Antarctica. Wipes sweat from his forehead. He's like, Chile, you're not going to believe what I saw. They're coming. Those six months in that shack changed him. Did that stint alone in the shack happen before or after? That was after this, I think. Why the fuck did he go back if he thought that there was some serious shit going down?

I think he was talking about there's a potential that someone could set up down there. I don't think he meant immediately.

Oh no, I'm sorry, I was very wrong. His expedition was in the 30s. It was pre-World War II, my bad. Yes, it was afterwards, yeah. So you're right, he didn't go back after this. What's that mean, huh? Wait, that's even... Why did he go back after the alone thing? Well, he had men with him this time. Well, true, he wasn't alone. What an interesting man.

Oh yeah, he was also the first person to fly over the South Pole. He has a bunch of accomplishments. He's a real go-getter. A real entrepreneur, so to speak. And then as soon as he comes to South America, he's like, they're coming, they're coming, they're coming. Ice is haunted, ice is haunted.

In 2012, a book was published, The Secret Lost Diary of Admiral Richard E. Byrd and the Phantom of the Poles. This was a novel constructed from Richard's personal diary, which had been discovered in the Ohio State University's Byrd Polar Research Center in 1996. I'm going to add allegedly discovered, by the way. I was going to say, how does the Ohio State University have...

his research center and they found his diary. Yeah. Well, the diary, he did have a diary there, but it's allegedly, uh, what was in the diary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The chief, the chief archivist Raymond Gorler found it while going through a box of birds possessions. There are also sources that say Richard gave his diary to his son before his death. I will mention the cover of that book is incredible. Um,

Yeah. Very classic 90s like magic treehouse type stuff. And not only like the idea of Hollow Earth but to say that we are currently in Hollow Earth but then

but there's a bigger earth around our earth that's that's incredible that's good stuff the earth is like an onion there's so many layers why there's so many layers we're on earth like three of potentially seven we don't know how many we don't know how big this goes what is nasa hiding from us also the phantom of the poles is such a cool name for that is a cool name

It sounds like a George Lucas title. Oh, yeah, it does. Richard Byrd's secret diary, allegedly detailing his experiences during Operation High Jump, has caused a lot of intrigue and speculation. The diary recounts a flight Richard took over the South Pole in 1947, where he claimed to have encountered unknown and advanced civilizations in a hidden land beyond the pole. In his diary, he talks about experiencing a three-hour time loss during a flight over the South Pole.

The diary starts out with, quote, I must write this diary in secrecy and obscurity. It concerns my arctic flight of the 19th day of February in the year of 1947. There comes a time... I feel like if you had a secret diary, you wouldn't open it by saying, this is my secret diary. You know? Like...

Yeah, probably not.

Perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny, but I must do my duty and record here for all to read one day. Yeah, this isn't how you write to yourself. In a world of greed and exploitation of certain of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth.

There comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into insignificance. So he's like, we must become lunatics. Fuck rationality. Let's go insane. We need to. This is how like a weeb writes about themselves, like an anime character. Yeah. No, please. I've wanted to hear your weeb. Oh, no, no. I wasn't going to do a weeb thing. I was just going to read from it to hear it.

um this is almost word for word the opening words of the killdozer manifesto oh marvin haymeyer the guy who made the killdozer yeah sometimes rational men must do irrational things i don't understand the concept

Well, the idea is that within a society that operates outside of rationality, even if you are better than that society, you have to get dirty, effectively. Which kind of makes... I mean, I'm not saying what he did makes sense, but it makes sense for what he was setting up in the manifesto, Haymeyer. Doesn't really make sense for him to...

unless he's about to say that he found proof that we are within a hollow earth or whatever saying he to reject the rationality of society for what he discovered no that's just more data you just have more data to how the world works unless you're saying that how it works completely debases everything we understand blah blah blah like again this is i don't feel like this is how you write to yourself you know

But it isn't saying like, you know, rational men must do irrational things sometimes. It's a rationalization itself of the things that they would eventually do. Yes, correct. It is. It's incorrect even at like a base level because they are in turn rationalizing it. Okay, what Heymeyer was more so saying, I know we're talking about the killdozer now, but what he was more so saying in the document is that what he's about to do will be viewed as irrational by society. Okay.

That to him, it's a rationalization and it makes sense. But when people in the future look back and call him crazy, he is a rational man. It's just that he came to a point of what society would deem irrational.

Well, that seems kind of different to what Richard Bird here is saying, where he was just straight up saying rationality is bad. Let's get rid of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like this wasn't actually Bird, but whatever. Who am I to accuse or who am I to judge? You know it's bad when Isaiah is not on board with the conspiracy. Come on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Watch your tongue. I am fully on board with the conspiracy. Good.

I just think that it's even more outlandish than what this Richard Bird poser claims it to be. This is tame. This is tame. To say that he lost three hours while flying over the South Pole is nothing compared to he found a secret entrance into the center of the earth that was filled with Nazis and giants. Okay. Yeah.

That is child's play to where I'm at, right? We're coming to that. Let's continue. This is actually, if anything, this is propaganda to cover up the truth of what Bird really saw down there.

Yeah, I mean, that's irrational enough to be rational. Exactly. I believe you. Look at that. There we go. That's hard to argue with. He's going. That's why it opens by saying we must be irrational because rationally we would understand about the Nazis and the Giants and whatnot. But if if we reject rationality, then we can believe it was time or whatever.

Richard's diaries were detailed and comprehensive. On the day of the flight, 19th century... 19th century? I don't know. Gosh, my brain's broken over the Agartha thing. 19th of February, 1947. The whole British metric way of writing dates threw me off. It starts at 6 a.m. where they complete all the necessary preparations for the flight and completely fill the plane tanks up with fuel.

Everything starts out relatively smoothly. There are a couple of adjustments that need to be made, but nothing concerning. At 8 a.m., he notes slight turbulence, but after a quick change in throttle, controls everything runs well again. Oh, after a quick change in throttle controls, everything runs well again. At 10 past 9, Richard notes a strange linear pattern in the ice below, as well as noting a color change to a more red-purple.

At the same time, the magnetic and gyro compasses begin to act up, making him unable to use the instruments. I mean, duh, you're flying over the South Pole. Richard begins to use the sun to direct him, but his controls also become very sluggish and slow to respond. A few minutes pass, and the ice below him starts to disappear. And at 9.15, he sees mountains in the distance, believing his eyes are deceiving him as he gets closer.

29 minutes later, he confirms he sees a mountain range in the area. At 9.50, the altitude changes and he experiences strong turbulence. Then, at 10 a.m., he flies over the mountain range and below he sees a small river and lush green forest. He notes that something is definitely wrong or abnormal as this should not be happening here. His equipment is still inoperable. He makes sharp left to get a better view of what is below him.

Although there is light and he can see, he cannot actually see the sun anymore. He spots a large animal. His first thought is an elephant, but then he asserts it's more like a mammoth. He grabs his binoculars to examine the beast below. Definitely a mammoth. He relays this information back to base. I think he tries to relay his information back to base, but I don't think that he's able to. Oh, he tries to relay it. I see. Yeah.

He continues on over the fields and valley below. The temperature outside reads as 74 degrees Fahrenheit or 23 degrees Celsius. Oh, that's nice. That's livable for Antarctica. Well, remember, he's looking down and he sees a lush green forest all of a sudden with wildlife, right? And that's 74 degrees Fahrenheit. The navigation instruments suddenly begin to work, puzzling Richard.

He tries to reach base camp, however, but the radio is now not working. At 1130, Richard details that below him, the countryside below him is more level, not so much rolling hills anymore. Then, in front of him, he sees a city. He cries out that it's impossible, but it's there. Richard comments on how the aircraft he is piloting begins to feel strange, somehow light and buoyant, and the controls aren't working. Oh my god, he's stuck in a tractor beam!

At this point, Richard is suddenly surrounded by disc-shaped aircrafts. He yells... Fuck. Charlie, would you like to take this quote with full energy? Full energy? My God. Off our port in Starboard. That's good.

That was 110%. Thank you. Thank you, Charlie. That's what Richard said right there is he took off his hat and he just put it over his chest. My God. Gentlemen, it's been an honor. Kevin calls us directly into this new civilization that he found.

Off our port in Starbird, wings are a strange type of aircraft. They're closing rapidly alongside. They're dish-shaped and have a radiant quality to them. They are close enough now to see markings on them. It's a type of swastika. This is fantastic. What, fantastic? Where are we? What has happened? I tug at the controls again.

They will not respond. We are caught in an invisible vice grip of some type. Oh no! He's like, it's a type of swastika. That's fantastic. Great news.

oh yeah why is it like written like he's speaking like it's a Orson Welles you know because that is exactly what whoever wrote this based it off of yeah it's like a radio play yeah to me it sounds more like something you'd see on tumblr back in the day like some of that gross ass fanfic yeah it does it's fanfic fanfic esque

Richard has no control of his aircraft as it seems to be controlling itself. A voice comes over the radio. It speaks English. Richard notes it has a slight Nordic or even Germanic accent. It says to him, Welcome, Admiral. Hold on. What's a good German accent? Welcome, Admiral, to our domain. That's pretty good. We shall land you in exactly...

seven minutes relax admiral you are in good hands

Five minutes later, the plane begins to land, shuddering and descending, appearing as if encased in an invisible elevator. The last entry to the flight log is at 11.45 a.m. Richard makes note of several men approaching him on foot. One is tall, with blonde hair, and behind him is a, quote, shimmering city pulsating with rainbow shoes of color. The Nazis have perfected it.

The Nazis have perfected color. The men don't appear to have weapons. And Richard has no idea what is happening. But someone orders him to open the door and he complies. Wait, why would the Nazis be friendly with an American military man? Because they've evolved beyond the need of hostility down here. They have the force now. They can just like pull his ship down. Yeah. Yeah.

This is where the flight log ends, but Richard continues his diary after the events, recalling from his memory what happened next. Charlie, would you like to be Richard again? From this point, I write all the following events here from memory. It defies the imagination and would seem all but madness if it had not happened. That's enough proof for me. I love that we go from Jonestown to this. What a great...

Our audience must be so confused. We've given them like total whiplash so much over the last few weeks. The last three episodes are crazy. It's a wild lineup. It went from hip hop drama to the most depressing cult scenario ever to now we're talking about like alien Nazis interacting with a dude. This is great. I couldn't be happier. When you all were like, hey, let's do the red thread. This is what I envisioned. Yeah, this is what we need. This is my masterpiece.

Richard was taken from their aircraft and received cordially. They were transported on a swift, wheel-less platform towards a glowing, crystal-like city. After being offered a warm, unfamiliar, quote, delicious beverage, Richard was escorted to meet the master of the Ariane. Fucking Christ. The Ariane! It's Aryan! It's Aryan, but worded like...

It's worded like an alien race. This is like a fucking bad sci-fi fan. Oh, it's great. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. So it's like, these are his lost records. And this is what it is.

besmirching this like innocent like really established very like a true like American like I obviously don't know you know what his beliefs or anything politically but from his like go-getter attitude like you know the American spirit and they're like what if the aliens pulled him to the Ariane

They made him into like a crackpot after the fact that he died. It's so fucked up. It's such a shame. It's like a tractor beam hit him and like pulled him in. Like, that's great. At least it's the Ariane occupied the inner world of the earth inside a chamber. So exquisite and delicate. Richard said there was no human term that could describe it and do it justice.

The master explained their concern over humanity's use of atomic energy. Yes! Oh my gosh! Yes, it is a Cold War like, can't we all just get along narrative? Whoever wrote this made it into a... And they're using the Nazis as like the... And they're using the Nazis as the peace bringers. The Nazis are... Why can't we all get along? The Ariadne are like the nuclear disarmament people.

That's great. We have our differences, but not even we believe in atomic energy. They were also heavily investigating nuclear... Yeah, they were trying to beat us to the nuke. So they're hypocrites too, I see. Well, I guess what's saying here is this isn't Nazis. Because remember, Hitler's whole thing was that there was an Aryan race there. So I don't think this is the Nazis. I think it's the Aryan race that's been found.

The Nazis were searching for these people. Yes, yeah. And they're concerned about our use of atomic energy. Man, that's great that it's an anti-nuclear energy story. They had to bake a story into it. The concept here is still stupid because the Ariane people, Hitler came down to Antarctica with all these boys, all these people of that bloodline. They refurbished

refuse to show themselves to him but an american pilot shows up and they immediately show them well that's that's because they they could tell that he was of good spirit and uh in a good man where the nazis had evil in their heart right bomb they loved little america four they really loved it was a cute name they're like we'll we'll pull them into our shimmering city

The Ariane had been monitored. And I also like how they just do the stereotypical sci-fi novel thing of being like, the city was indescribable, so I'm not going to describe it. But it's supposed to be a diary. The Ariane...

The Ariane had been monitoring humanity since the atomic bombings and warned of impending disaster if humanity continued on its current path. Wait, only since then? They hadn't been watching us until that point? They just didn't care. And then Anouk went off and they were like, did you hear that? She's getting real up there.

the master told Richard that he, I imagine it's Mr. House from fallout, new Vegas. I know that I'm making the pop culture references, but I imagine he's talking to a computer. The master told Richard that he was a noble and well-known person on the surface world. And Richard was instructed to return with the message of caution and hope for a future revival. We see that you're pretty chill and a cool guy. Well,

That's why he went straight to Peru. And for some reason was like, they're coming, get ready, grab a rifle, shoot at them. Those guys are fucked up. We gotta kill those guys.

After the meeting. They treated him with the utmost hospitality and kindness and friendliness. Kill it, kill it, kill it, kill it. Defend me. They had so much oil down there. Good God, we gotta go get that. They don't like how I nuked them. What?

After the meeting, Richard was swiftly returned to their aircraft, guided back to the surface by the Ariadne's flying machines. And here we have another quote. Ahem.

Our interest rightly begins just... Oh, wait, hold on. This is the quote of the Ariane, right? Yeah. Oh, no, this is just from the book. Okay. Our interest rightly begins just after your race exploded the first atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. It was at that alarming time we sent our flying machines. The flu...

The flugelrads. Oh, boy. The flugelrads. My God. Anything but the flugelrads. How do they make UFOs uncool? I think it makes them very cool. Imagine looking up in the sky and just seeing this fleet of flugelrads just fucking towering.

Oh, okay, interesting. So I just looked it up. The BMW Flugelrad 3 is an actual thing that exists, and it was created by BMW as an experimental machine, and it's like an actual UFO. That's cool. Oh. So they sent them to the surface world to investigate what your race had done. That is, of course, past history now, my dear Admiral, but I must continue on. You see, we have never interfered...

I like how this grand race is like, well, if you'll recall, due to the past election... Why is this like it's a fucking Darmad video? Well, that's simple. If you'll recall, we have never interfered before in your race's wars and barbarity, but now we must. For you have learned to tamper with a certain power that is not for man. Namely, that power

of atomic energy. It's not even just atomic bomb. It's not even against bombing people. It's against using atomic energy. Yeah, they're big...

What we don't know is that the Ariadne people are big investors into, like, coal. Yeah, they control, like, just the oil industry and stuff. They're like, um, stop that. You're interfering in our business affairs. We took notice as soon as you guys constructed windmills.

We have been destroying windmills with our flugelrats for generations. So stupid. Spreading anti-windmill propaganda far and wide. Bye, Cole. Our emissaries have already delivered messages to the powers of your world, and yet they do not heed. Now, I love how they incorporate that, like, world leaders know about this, but they just haven't said anything.

now you have been chosen to witness here that our world does exist you see every you see is so funny it's literally like high school creative writing it is it's like you nailed it with the tumblr post saying like you see based on what I mentioned previously our culture and science is many thousands of years beyond your race admiral I interrupted

But what does this have to do with me, sir? He just told you. He already told you. He said he wants to use you as a messenger. And he's like, well, I need you to go tell everyone. Yes, but how am I involved? The master's eyes seem to penetrate deeply into my mind. And after studying me for a few moments, he replied.

Your race has now reached the point of no return, for there are those among you who would destroy your very world rather than relinquish their power as they know it. I nodded and the master continued. In 1945 and afterward, we tried to contact your race, but our efforts were met with hostility. Our... Such an unserious man.

Our flugelrats were fired upon. Yes. Even pursued with malice and animosity by your fighter planes. So now I say to you, my son.

He's getting biblical. Yeah. My son, there is a great storm gathering in your world, a black fury that will not spend itself for many years. There will be no answer in your arms. There will be no safety in your science. It may rage on until every flower of your culture is trampled and all human things are leveled in vast chaos.

Your recent war was only a prelude of what is yet to come for your race. We here see it more clearly with each hour. Do you say I am mistaken? Was he mistaken? Was he really mistaken?

No, I answered. It happened once before the Dark Ages came and they lasted for more than 500 years. Wait, what Dark Ages? I think that's what he's talking about. I think he's saying that these Arianas ran the world for a while, but then they left and then the Dark Ages happened or something. No, but the

the pilot bird is apparently I know yeah I think that's what bird is saying that like without their divine influence the dark ages will happen am I fucking good yes my son replied the master the dark ages that will come now for your race will cover the earth like a pail but I believe that some of your race will live through the storm beyond that I cannot say

You know what's stupid, actually? Usually in fiction, like, underworlders or people below... That's the stupid part of this.

What? You said, you know what's stupid in fiction? Oh, yeah, yeah. Do you know how many stupid farts are happening right now simultaneously? Not many. There's nothing here that's setting off my alarms yet.

Yeah, in fiction, like the orcs and stuff that live under our reality, they're second class citizens, basically. They're disgusting little creatures. Why don't we think of the hollow earth people like that? Why do they have the superiority when they literally live under our feet?

Because they're the Aryanans, man. And like Hitler was wrong about them, but they're actually really cool and neat. But Hitler was actually also wrong, even though I'm just here writing everything that he also said had happened. But we don't like them because they're Nazis. Yeah. Mm hmm.

Real quick, we're clowning on this. There's people that actually believe it. I decided to look it up a little bit to see if there's anyone that really believes this. I'm reading from a bunch of Redditors. This is what one guy says after someone questioned, like, why do you believe this? It's clearly not authentic. He then quotes, I must write this diary in secrecy and obscurity. And he's like, these are the first words in his diary. What does that mean to you? It's crazy how people just take every fucking thing at face value.

Everything. He said he wrote this in secrecy. It makes sense now. It's so sad. How popular is the theory? It's not like super popular, I don't think, but there's enough people. Yeah, there's still there's more than you would ever expect after reading this dog shit. I mean, this was like full sincerity. People will do anything but just make their lives better.

Right. Yeah. They will believe any out there harebrained thing that implies the world is out to get them or that it's not their fault and that everything is affirmed. They will do that before they go to the gym and talk to a woman like, Oh yeah. And I say this as someone who full heartedly believes this cause it's cool. And I think it's fun, but people will like base their lives around stuff like this.

But that's definitely like a prevailing theme of modern society is like the absolving of personal responsibility and finding ways to scapegoat that kind of stuff. Across the board with nearly every ideology. Yeah, which is probably why conspiracies are more and more popular now. Yeah, I need to finish this so I can't. This is too good. Yeah.

Perhaps by then you will have learned the futility of war and its strife, and after that time, certain of your culture and science will be returned for your race to begin anew. You, my son, are to return to the surface world with this message. With these closing words, our meeting seemed at an end. I stood for a moment as in a dream, but yet I knew this was reality.

For some strange reason, I bowed slightly, either out of respect or humility. I do not know which. Suddenly, I was again aware that the two beautiful hosts who had brought me here were again at my side. This way, Admiral, motioned one.

I turned once before leaving and looked back toward the master. Gentle smile was etched on his delicate and ancient face. Is this going to turn into like fanfics mutt eventually? It's going that direction it feels. Farewell, my son, he spoke. Then he gestured with a lovely slender hand, a motion of peace and our meeting ended.

was truly ended what was the most was it like a thumbs up well i held up a peace sign because i

To me, that's what the author's thinking. It'd be wild, too, if he was like... Because all that was just to talk about the current American drama of nuclear politics or whatever. It'd be wild if he was like... And also, racial integration is bad and you shouldn't do it. He just throws all of his opinions. Yeah, still to remind everyone that he's actually a Nazi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So...

Yeah.

toward the Chileans and only them maybe Richard really hates Chile so he's like hey guys if you take this and shoot that way he's like that'll wipe that smug people off the earth forever those very respectful kind people the flugel laughs or whatever the planes are called decimate them flugel rads it'll decimate them

They fly by the power of flugel. Skipping to March 11th, Richard writes another entry to his diary. He alleges that he has met with the staff at the Pentagon and also between this for some reason he told the Chileans everything. Just to a random newspaper as well. Of

Of course, yeah. I mean, that part did happen, by the way. That did happen, but it's obviously not connected to this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was just talking about, like, the potential of an error. I do think, I am, like, willing to believe that Richard did see, like, unironically saw something down there, probably, like, a Nazi base that was set up, or maybe that there were further expeditions into the interior than previously thought, something like that.

Yeah.

The final entry in the diary is late December 1956. This was about a year before he died. Richard explains that although the few years since what happened in 1947 have been difficult, he has remained silent about everything that has happened, even though it goes against his values. Richard knows that he is nearing the end of his life and does not want the secrets about inner earth to die with him.

This can be the only hope for mankind. I have seen the truth and it has quickened my spirit and has set me free. I have done my duty toward the monstrous military industrial complex. Now the long night begins to approach, but there shall be no end. Just as the long night of the Arctic ends, the brilliant sunshine of truth shall come again. And those who are of darkness shall fall in its light.

For I have seen that land beyond the pole, that center of the great unknown.

And then Admiral Richard Ebert... Signed Admiral Richard Ebert of the United States Navy. And then he dies. Yeah, right there and there. Why do you have... Like, how crazy actually do you have to be to believe this? Holy shit. You have to be so fucking unwell. You just have to reject what is in front of you and then accept any alternative. That's all it is. But it's so... Oh, man. I just...

can't imagine that mind state. I just can't. There are reports of strange things happening at the base camp set up during Operation High Jump. Strange lights in the sky darted around, stemming from the ocean. People say that planes were shot down by beams of energy and there were casualties on the expedition. This is outside of the book, by the way. This is what people theorize around Operation High Jump. Yeah.

In the official report, they left early due to weather conditions worsening, but it is said that they actually left because of attacks from German quote, secret weapons and flying saucers. What is the truth? Well, not that. Oh, that was great. I feel like I just had a cigarette. I feel great. That was better than sex. Yeah, that was awesome. I fucking love that. Thank you for that. Thank you for writing all that just for me. That was awesome.

Your sacrifice will never be forgotten, Bird. Of course. Thank you, Richard E. Bird's ghost writer or whoever took on his personification to write that masterpiece. It's fantastic.

Coincidentally, soon after Richard's death in 1957, countries came together to begin the talks of the Antarctic Treaty. It was officially signed in Washington in December 1959 by 12 countries. Three of its most important values are Antarctica shall be used for peaceful purposes only, freedom of scientific investigation in Antarctica, and cooperation towards that end shall continue, and scientific observations and results from Antarctica shall be exchanged and made freely available.

It's cowards. Wait, it's kind of funny that this is such a...

It's such a nice gesture by a bunch of countries to basically say, like, this land is of significant scientific value. Let's all collaborate and work together to create a nice environment to be able to conduct that kind of research for the betterment of mankind. And then conspiracy theorists go and look at that treaty and go, well, this means that there's actually a race of...

superhuman German people that live down there that the government is trying to kill naturally. Of course. It's just funny. Because of this, everyone is forbidden to go to Antarctica without permission and compared to how absolutely massive it is, there are only a select few areas able to be visited. Begs the question, why? What are they possibly hiding? Yeah, the Ariane.

We already know. Ariane. Finally, the truth. Yes. Okay. I'll take this one. So we've outlined a lot of crazy stories here, but it's time to really look into the truth. In his video, Operation High Jump, Mission Find and Destroy the Secret Nazi UFO Base in Antarctica, the Y-Files on YouTube goes into everything in extensive details. Firstly, Richard Bird's diaries. I'm sorry to report that there is absolutely no concrete proof that they are real. Liar!

That's what they want you to think. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He wrote in the first line that he has to write it in secrecy. What more proof do you need? He wrote that there was no rationality and irrationality. You're just afraid of the truth, Jackson. I am. I'm afraid of the Ariane. I like whole power, damn it.

So there are legitimate diaries that Richard wrote available to historians and researchers, but none contain any claims of a hollow earth or Ariane people, believe it or not. They instead tell of his known achievements and experiences. And the writing style in this secret diary is also very different to his regular entries with lots of exclamation marks and a more dramatic prose, almost like it was written by a person with a heavy interest in Star Wars fan fiction.

Richard really did give statements to the Chilean newspaper El Mercurio, but it was written in Spanish. And when it was translated back to English, his words got a bit muddled in translation. He said that the United States could be attacked from the poles, which they needed to be ready for. But it was twisted to ships that could fly incredible speeds from pole to pole on the offensive. Yeah, sure. Sure, just a translation error. Definitely not the flugel laughs he saw that actually...

you know, were there and are real by the way. I don't understand how Flugelweiss is a mistranslation. That's pretty hard to fuck up. Now you're freeing your mind, Jackson. Damn rationality keeping me tied back to reality. Keeping you tethered and kind of releasing.

And what about the Nazis? That's always a question on our mind. What about the Nazis? Well, first off, the weather station was in the north, not the South Pole. They did head south and possibly did look for an area to set up a base. But really, while war hadn't happened yet, it was approaching and Hitler was, of course, attempting to plan for all possible scenarios. They were looking to secure the whale oil for their diet and lifestyle needs. No secret Nazi base or bunker has been found in the South Pole. After the...

Everything is false. Everything is false, damn it. Of course. After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, tons of classified documents were released. One in particular was about Operation High Jump. The Soviets speculated that the true intent behind Operation High Jump was more related to geopolitical and military interests than just scientific research.

They thought that the United States were investigating what could possibly be Nazi bases in Antarctica. They did carry a lot of weapons which would support this idea. So that was obviously the intention behind Operation High Jump instead of whatever Richard claimed above. Yeah.

The report names a lot of ships incorrectly and exaggerated the number of aircraft and lives lost during Operation High Jump. The strange lights connecting to UFOs come from this document too, hinting that they encountered unidentified flying objects and that Navy engaged with extraterrestrial life while on the mission. But there is no credible evidence of this. So yeah, Operation High Jump is still...

because of the reports that came out, it is still used as kind of like corroborating evidence of UFOs, like UFO encounters. I see that a lot in like UFO stories and like UFO reports. So it's entirely possible the US military did encounter some form of like UFO down during Operation High Jump, but to link it to this absolute lunacy that is the Hollow Earth theory and as well as the Ariane theory,

um ariani people and the master is completely unfounded there's no kind of i mean it is pretty cool in itself that like the russians had you know records of this operation and like there were lights there were lives lost we lost play and stuff like that it is a fascinating you know kind of obscure moment yeah i mean there's definitely there's definitely room for some credible like interesting aspects to the you know operation high jump as well as like the stuff going on down in antarctica

But they took it to such an unrecognizable level. Yeah. Which is great. I love that shit. Something strange, however, as a final note, Richard E. Bird's son, Richard E. Bird Jr., was discovered in a warehouse dead merely weeks after heading to Washington to attend a ceremony to honor his father.

Who knows? Uh-oh.

What do you guys think? Well, it definitely was the government who killed him because the Ariane said they wanted him to talk about them. True. It wouldn't be the master. Okay, well, maybe it was the master getting revenge for Richard not publicly talking about him. Oh, that's a good point. It's hate. Yeah. The master's peace symbol turned into a middle finger eventually. That sounds pretty conclusive to me. I think you solved it with that one, Jackson. Good job. Yep. Yep. So...

How do you guys feel about Antarctica now? Is your third eye open? Do you believe in it? Oh, I know it's there. Of course. I know Antarctica is there. I do believe in it. It exists, yeah. But to what capacity, Charlie? Probably like the full capacity of the Ariane being there right now watching us. Yeah, we're going to get invaded by the Flugelrad soon enough. Boeing's got nothing on the Flugelrad invasion. Once that comes, we're all fucked.

I just love the word for red. It's a pretty cool name. It's a good name. Isaiah, what do you got to end it? I think that it's absolutely real and I think we should respect our Ariana brethren lest we pay the price.

I do think that Operation High Jump is fascinating. I think it's interesting that we dedicated so much resources after the war. And like both sides, like, you know, during the Cold War, both Russia and the United States had an interest in this. So, you know, everyone goes down there and then they're secretive about what they find. I think maybe, like, sure, we don't have records of the Nazis going down there and setting up a base, but we don't have records of a lot of what the Nazis did during the war and before because so much of it was destroyed in the aftermath. Yeah.

So it's very possible the Nazis could have set up a base down there. It's very possible that, um, no, we, what, what we do know of the Nazis is they were trying to work with some crazy advanced technology and stuff like that. So maybe there was some kind of experimental research base going on in Antarctica that, uh, maybe the Americans and the Russians found and they didn't release to the public because they wanted to keep that research for themselves. Right. A lot of,

what like modern medicine knows about things like hypothermia comes from human experiments during, you know, in concentration camps and stuff like that. So it wouldn't be the first time we've done that. So yeah, maybe there's just stuff down there we wanted to take for ourselves and then cover up what the details of it were. So I think there definitely is something to operation high jump in Antarctica. Uh, I think it's insane that it gets made into a Star Trek episode, but on its own, I think it's a fascinating story. Yeah.

Insanely cool, you mean. Because that Star Trek episode was fantastic. Bless up to the Ariane. Let us know what you guys think about the Ariane. Are you Team Ariane? You're a truther? Yeah. Which side are you on? Yeah. Team Cole or Team Ariane, basically. That's what it comes down to. Yeah, that's going to do it for this episode of Red Thread. Thank you all very much for joining us. Let us know your thoughts below.

Uh, and also, oh, I forgot to mention, I've been doing pay, uh, like Patreon exclusive red thread after reports on our Patreon. So you can go listen to those on our Patreon, patreon.com slash the official podcast. Uh, that's basically like 30 minute episodes where I answer red thread related questions, uh, to cool. So it's exclusive content.

There's two of those up on Patreon. Yeah, go check it out if you feel like it. Other than that, that's going to do it for Red Thread. Well, this episode anyway. Yeah, thanks. That's it. Podcast over. We're dead right now. That's the hype. Can't go up from here. Bye, everyone. Bye. All right. See you, everyone. Thank you very much. Bye. Thank you for watching. Don't use nuclear energy. Bye. Bye.

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