Jason Alexander: Britney and His New Bride
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What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today we have a man on a mission, Jason Alexander. What's up baby? How are you? Thank you for having me. Dude, thanks for coming. I'm like so excited to have you here. I know. We've been trying for like a year. A little bit. Yeah. It just didn't work out, but.

God's timing is always better, you know, and we think we could, uh, we got it all figured out and we find out we don't one day. Oh, dude, that's the fucking truth. I used to think I had it so figured out when I was younger and then I realized I don't know shit. The older I get. That's wisdom though, you know, that's what, I mean, getting older is a good thing about it. When you live long enough, I guess you don't go too far down the rabbit hole.

Yeah, man. Fucking speaking of rabbit holes, I feel like we have a lot to talk about and a lot to cover. But like I told you before we started recording, I feel like any interview that I've listened to you be on, like it's just mainly focused on Britney, which of course, ladies and gentlemen, we are going to focus. We're going to talk about Britney, but I kind of want to like,

I want people to get to know you, you know, like I want people to know like who you are, where your mind frame is at, you know, like just everything because I feel like nobody ever asks you how you're doing.

Thank you. I appreciate that. You know, I mean, I guess the only reason for me to ever be in the public eye was because of Brittany. Growing up, I was into sports, so I got really good at football and got a college scholarship. So I started getting like a little attention in the media before me and Brittany were married in Vegas just through that. But I always had dreams of being in the NFL, so I was always thinking that, you know, I would be in the public eye. I just never thought it would be.

through Mary and Britney Spears, you know. - Right. - But yeah, it's-- - So did you guys grow up together? Like where did, are you from Louisiana also? - Yeah, we're both from Kentwood, so it was a very small town. Back then there was like 2,000 people. It's maybe more like six now. But her whole family still lives there, you know, her mom,

What about your family though? My dad is still in Kentwood where I grew up. My mom lives probably an hour from there. It's towards Baton Rouge is the capital of Louisiana. So it's a little small. Are you still close with them? You know, um, it's close. That's a good question. He's like, I wasn't expecting that one. No, I was, but you know, I love my family. So we just, um,

It was like my family was, they divorced when I was young. So it was, I went through a lot of trauma as a kid just going through that because... How old were you? I was 12 and my sister was like 10, I believe. So I had to choose who I wanted to live with. And obviously I stayed with my dad because that's where, you know, I grew up and my mom moved and she didn't stay. So...

And my dad, I guess, was a really outgoing person. And so I had a lot of freedom, you know, and was able to kind of, and I guess also growing up in that time, it was like pre-social media and stuff. So kids were still riding bikes. Are you an 80s baby? I'm an 81, yes. I'm 80. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So we're straight like kids. Exactly. Yeah. So we understand like the time before the internet like wave, but.

It was a great time. It was really cool, you know, growing up. But there was always really blurry boundaries between the adults and the kids. Like, the parties were always, like, in front of us. So I started drinking very young and kind of thinking that's the... Like, I thought that was cool. Like, I want to be like all these adults and drink and act stupid. You know, so I missed out on, like, a real family setting where, you know...

I kind of envy people that have that, but at the same time, it did form me into who I am, so I appreciate that. Did you start drinking at a young age? I did. We started playing around and drinking beer at 12 or 13 because my close friends...

Where my dad's friends, their kids were friends with me. We're all kind of close growing. Kentwood's small. So it was like everywhere you went, you were friends. That's how I know Brittany is just like, you know, all the parents. And then plus her mom had the preschool in Kentwood where we all started going to school. So it was like, that's where we, we all nested and started forming our relationships. But yeah,

Being from in that single parent life, you know, with my dad, I kind of just there wasn't a lot of restrictions, you know, and it kind of gave me a bad rap a little bit in like junior high and high school with my other friends. It's kind of a lot of judgment from the parents because they always felt like I was a problem child. And I was like always in my in my head going, if you only knew your kids.

Right, right. Like if your kid just hasn't gotten caught yet. You'd be like, dang, Jason, you actually got morals. But, um, well, you grew up in like the Bible belt. So judgment just runs rampant. Yeah. And you know, um, I did have an encounter with the Holy Spirit at 12. I got saved on like a church, uh, I did like this, uh, mission thing with the church and, you

And it was kind of religious, fear-based, you know, that made me get saved. But I'm glad because that carried on. And later on in high school, I had another experience because after starting drinking so young, I got involved in, I was like a weekend warrior. So like, I was really good at football and obviously handsome, you know, so I had like. You are a good looking dude. I was actually very surprised when you walked in. I feel like the media doesn't portray you as handsome as you are. Yeah, they do. That's true.

jobs his new wife is sitting here by the way so don't you guys don't think I'm like hitting on him or anything they'd be like I know how bunny is right now um yeah that's an amazing story too but yeah we're gonna get into that um you know and then I guess uh where I was going with that is that uh I didn't really get into smoking weed but like we started messing with shrooms and

psychedelics and stuff really young. I guess because where I'm at in Louisiana, it's like where the 10 interstate runs into interstate 55 and it's kind of like a cross section of the country. Yeah. We got a lot of drugs, like the party drugs. Right. Ecstasy back then, the tabs, they used to call them the double stacks or whatever. I remember, you know, those are...

Back when drugs were fun. Yeah, they were like, it was just intense. And clean. Yeah, exactly. It was just a whole other era. And so I started messing around with that. And I had kind of a religious experience. Like I met Jesus one night in this trip that I took a bunch of ecstasy. It just came on so hard. And it was like an outer body experience. And so...

Anyways, it scared me really bad, but I was in the shower a few days later, and something came over me. It was just overwhelming. You've got to go get baptized. You've got to get saved. It was just something that came over me, and so I was like,

Happy that I had that experience, you know, just because it kind of brought me back into check and what I was kind of heading in a direction where it's probably divine intervention. Exactly. And so and, you know, I mean, it didn't stop my drug use, obviously. Right. But it did. It did check me and I put a lot of energy in the football and I started focusing on that. I ended up getting a scholarship. So yeah.

I stayed on a pretty good path for many years, but I always would party on the weekends. Right. I feel like that's par for the course for football players. That's how you guys are. You guys are great on the field, and then when you're off the field, it's womanizing. Play hard, work hard, play hard kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. That's just our MO growing up. And then from the South, it was like everyone was doing it. Right. I don't know.

Like there was a few, you know, groups that, you know, were more just like the church goers and like really square, I guess, if you want to say that. Right. I say square all the time. Fucking squares. I, I, even though I had those religious experience, I was like,

I never let the fear stop me from enjoying my life because I was like, God, if you're real, I want to do this. This feels good. I'm just having fun with these people and all this. So I kind of didn't allow it, even though the fear was always there. Like, you're going to hell, you know? And I was just like, no, you're not. I'm going to have a God's bigger...

I love that though. That's kind of traumatizing as a kid growing up in the Bible belt. Oh, I grew up with religious trauma. I grew up Southern Pentecostal. Oh my God. You're even worse. Yeah. I had a babysitter. You know, she was Pentecostal and, um, they don't have, they didn't TV.

They had radios and, you know, they didn't cut their hair. And I always thought the TV thing was a little weird. I wasn't allowed to listen to secular music. I couldn't watch certain things. Like it was crazy. You know, I respect that more now though. And I went, Oh, excuse me. In my wisdom, because, uh, it is a portal. Like the television is the brainwashing thing. It's just like, you know, when,

And once we talk about it. But getting married to Brittany, I think the biggest thing for me was it opened my eyes to a lot of the world and things that I didn't really pay attention to before that. Absolutely, yeah. Because we don't have a TV in our house now, but it's just like we choose not to watch TV. Yeah. No, things have changed since we were kids back in our day. It's just so different now. Everything is so...

just there's underlying messages and everything that we watch. Propaganda, just like the show Idol right now on HBO that's kind of like Britney supposedly connected to through whatever contracts. And then the Euphoria show. Euphoria gives me anxiety and I love that show. Oh my God, I watched that show and I'm like,

Like, I see the brainwashing in it, you know? And then when you really do your research, you learn how the CIA and how the money's invested in Hollywood for, like, you know, all these different ideas to be pushed on the public, so...

I'm just very conscious about that now. And I wasn't before because mainly because I'm being thrown in the media and then seeing the lies and being like, that's not the truth. You know, it never made sense to me. And then to interject you sitting here, you seem like such a normal human being in the media. Yeah.

You see, like I was almost kind of nervous to do the interview because I was like, I don't know what his mental head space is going to be. Yeah. Like, is he on drugs or is he schizophrenic? Not that there's anything wrong. That's that's what the me. That's what I'm talking about. It's these little snippets that they put out and then someone that doesn't know you at all.

that's all they got to go off of. And that's, that's brainwashing. Right. Really? That's MKO programming, you know, programming. And when you think about it, it's like television programming. I mean, they're telling you what it is right there. Um, but no, you seem like just a normal, normal, you know, I've always been just normal. Uh,

Are you still using drugs? I am not using drugs. Okay. Let's just clarify. Cause that was the number one question people wanted me to ask you. Okay. Well, no, I'm not using drugs anymore. Thank you, Lord. I'm free from addiction. You know, I was heading down a bit, a bad path. I've always kind of, I have shoulder surgery and football all the way up until I was 24. And I was like really one of those hard hitting guys. And, uh, so I took pain pills, you know, for the pain and,

So I kind of got into that. And then when Fentanyl came around, someone was like, dude, I was, I was buying some pain pills one time and they were like, it's going to be like $300 for 20 or something. I was like, God, this is ridiculous. You know? And they're like, dude, but I can get you the Fentanyl for, you can party all weekend on that. I was like, cause I always snorted my pain pills, you know? Right. And, uh, so I was like, all right, I'll try. And when I did, I was like, how long ago was this? That started like COVID, uh,

probably a little after COVID. This is very recent. Before that, I never did anything that hardcore, you know. It was just the time period where COVID came. I had got laid off from my job.

i was going through a separation with my ex and uh i was kicked out of the house and kind of in a hotel room and trying to back and forth to the house trying to figure out what what um i'm gonna do you know figure it out yeah and it uh it was just numbing the pain for me it helped me get through the time and it just i just didn't realize how bad off i got you know about a year of using it every day almost

And because of my work, I had the unemployment and all the big checks coming in with the COVID and I didn't have to work. And it was like, they were giving you like,

I don't know. They were paying like four times the unemployment, you know, it was getting like 900 a week or something crazy to sit at home and do nothing. Um, so. Yeah. Idle hands are of the devil. Yeah, exactly. So, but, um, I, you know, Brittany reached out and like, um, that actually kind of gave me hope a little bit, you know, because of the relationship I was coming out of to get clean. And then I just told God, you know, I was like, look, God, like I don't, I have a son and I don't, I want to be a good father. And,

it wasn't easy. It took a process, but through a lot of deliverance and healing and praying and surrounding myself with better people, um, better habits, you know, cause I already kind of knew the formula for, you know, just a healthy lifestyle. Yeah. And if you, and it's really just all about staying strict on that, uh, discipline, discipline on your routine. Yeah. And that really, the difference thing that I think that changed though is, uh,

By giving it to God and like because I didn't do rehab or any of that kind of stuff. I just never really believed in it. Well, that's amazing that you were able to get off fentanyl and not even have to go to rehab. It was a short. Well, you know, it was a little process, you know, because I used Kratom. It's like a somewhat like I know what it is like. It helped a lot. And then then, you know, I still like I still use that here and there.

But, and you know, I smoke, I smoke marijuana. Yeah. I'm a huge advocate for marijuana. So when did you get sober, fully off of fentanyl, just so everybody knows? It's been, it's been a year and a half. Good. Good. I'm proud of you. I don't know, I didn't write the date down. Yeah. I was thinking about it today. I'm like, it's well over a year, probably a year and a half going on two. So, yeah.

And that was probably when I got the DUI of anyone Googles that, that's what, you know, my DUI was from. It was like knotted out at the steering wheel, basically, you know. Luckily, I wasn't driving, you know, because I felt really bad about the situation because I'm like, man, I don't even remember. Yeah. Could have killed somebody driving, you know. So it was like God works in that, you know, in different ways. And so, yeah.

And it gave me a compassion for people that are using that, you know, because I never used a needle. I just, I was snorting dope and like, I was scared of the needles, you know, but I'll be, I'll tell you a story. That's how I found out about Jelly Roll was because I was like, I was, I had my Pandora rolling and I was like, I'm spending a lot of time in my truck and

and and driving to you know Antioch and uh from Franklin and uh anyways uh I had my Pandora playing like maybe I was listening to Ryan Upchurch or somebody but how they how the uh

what's it, the algorithm? Yeah. Or just play different artists. And so Jelly Roll started becoming one of my favorite people to listen to because he, you know, he raps about a lot of that. And I'm sure he has experience with friends and people that's been through similar situations. And then I think you had Adam Cohan on the show before? Adam Calhoun. Yes, Calhoun, yeah. He's really, I like. We love Adam. Adam's our baby. We love Adam.

And so he was another guy. I was like, well, wow, he's a guy. I like I just I felt it, you know. And so it got it was like now when I listen to some of those songs, it kind of takes me back and I don't really like to do it. Right. But the new stuff, you know. Yeah, it's cool. And that's how I found like Jelly Roll. I love that you found him in one of your dark times. Maybe he's like a little I always say he's an angel on Earth.

Like literally. Yeah. He's such a good soul. I watched his documentary on Hulu or whatever the special he did. And like I heard I seen the people coming up to him and just like how his music changed their life. I'm like, I'm sure for him that that means a lot because, you know, I see he loves it and he's really passionate about it. And I mean, his music really does talk to, you know, it's like and the fact that he went in the country and how the country music.

really embraced him. Yeah, no, it's been wild for us. Yeah. Oh God, I can only imagine. Yeah. So I literally text Winona Judd and that's not like not me name dropping. Like that's me. I can't believe that I'm at that point in our life. Like to be friends with Winona Judd, like that's just crazy to me. They've been the sweetest humans ever. Country music has. Well,

I think Jelly Rose is probably a huge fan of Garth Brooks, right? He's what? A huge fan of Garth Brooks. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. A friend of ours, we got married on her property in Goodlettsville. And her property is right next to Garth Brooks' property, like her grandfather owned it. So like growing up, she still deals with Garth, you know, about the property line and different things. But I thought that was funny. We got married on her property.

Yeah. I love that. So let's take it back to high school. Um, when did you and Brit, did you and Brittany like hang out during all this or like, were you guys close as kids? We did hang out. Um,

We hung out a lot. You know, it was always periodic because we went to, after like we left her mom's kindergarten, we went to two different elementary schools. And then she went to a different high school as me, but we played their football team. So, you know, that was kind of always fun when we'd play against Park Lane because I was like, I'm going to show off in front of all these little prep girls.

tonight. Right. And her brother, Brian, was a good football player in high school. And he was a little older than me. And I kind of always looked up to him a little bit. Right. When we were younger. Right. But not now. Not now. No, I actually think he's I actually think he's I don't have bad words for anybody. But, you know, I think I think

Brian, I think her whole family could can be more supportive. And, you know, I just don't agree with like the way they go about the control and they've all benefited their life and everything.

You know, so I just feel like there's... Yeah, we'll get into that because definitely want to talk about that. But growing up, so you guys, you know, crossed paths whenever you would play her high school and stuff like that. Yeah, you know, she dated other guys and we never really dated when we were younger. We would hang out because my...

Her cousin and like good friends, a couple of her good friends that came to Vegas with us and they were in her wedding with K-Fed were in my class. So even though she didn't, Brittany didn't go to school with me, her friends and family did. So that kept us kind of like weekends hanging out and always kind of, you know, bumping into each other. But yeah.

You know, it wasn't it been as much as you would have thought. Right. Because I had, you know, a whole life going on back then. Yeah. And I had a pretty serious girlfriend. I started dating in ninth grade until my senior year. And that's who I was dating before I went to Vegas, which we just broke up like a couple months before that, before I went off to college and to play football. Yeah.

You know, but I will say when she started getting really famous, like around 16, we hit me baby one more time. You know, like there's always like it was all it was kind of funny for us because she was like a virgin. Right. Right. You know, that was kind of the first time I ever saw the media lie about it. But it was just like we kind of laughed because we all knew that wasn't true. Yeah.

interesting right looking back how they paint the picture of people and how that's still accurate to the day yeah to this moment right now you know what they say is going on and what's actually going on and how people like really believe the narratives that they paint and that's all the you know that's all by design I feel you know it's to just keep people in the confusion and like

There's a lot of things I don't understand. Yeah. Because there's so many lies that, you know. Yeah, absolutely. So how did you end up marrying Brittany? That was interesting also. This all sounds pretty fucking interesting. You know, it was random because I obviously was in college at the time playing football.

we were out for the Christmas holidays, you know, and, um, I just randomly went to the gas station to get like, you know, some, a beer or something to go out that night. And I had no clue I was going to bump into her at the gas station, but, um, I just randomly bumped into her, her and her brother at the gas station. And, and, uh, funny enough. In Kentwood? In Kentwood. Okay. Cause she was home for the Christmas holiday. She used to come home for the holidays a lot. And, uh,

Kent was really small, you know, so it was just kind of random, but we would always end up somehow bumping into each other. Right. And so, yeah, she bought her mom a brand new Mercedes and it was Christmas Eve, actually.

And she was driving it to kind of keep it away from the house. And her brother was, her brother is a little older than me. And my dad always hung out with younger, the younger crew. Right. And my neighbor was around Brian's age. And they, it was like this whole little party group of guys, you know, in Kentwood. And Brian was actually going to my house to see my dad for whatever reason. And Brittany was riding with him. I was like, wow, I just left the house, but I'll go back.

I was going to go out and do this or that. And so that's where we kind of started hanging out. And there's a picture online where I'm in my living room. I'm all messed up and doing like this or whatever. And that was in my living room back then. That night where we went back to the house and was hanging out. It was a margarita we just bought at the gas station. And that's kind of where we hung out for like the next week before New Year's came along. And she invited me. She was like, so...

"Look, I gotta do this Christmas thing and then I would like you to come to Vegas for New Year's." And I was like, "Hell yeah." And so I didn't think she was gonna call me. She left and went on this Christmas trip with her family and then sure enough she called me like, she said, "I'm gonna be coming back tomorrow and if you wanna go still, be here at this time." I was like, "Alright."

Boom. I'm on a private jet on my way to Vegas. And that was back then before her family was really controlling. She had pretty much, she could invite who she wanted around her. It was normal. It was how it should actually be, you know. How was her father when she was younger? He was an alcoholic. Was he mean? A functioning alcoholic. You know, he worked and paid the bills. You know, he owned a gym and he was always really into fitness and stuff.

Well, either though he was an alcoholic, you know, I guess when he was younger and he had a gym or whatever. And, uh, he was always kind of like that mean guy though, you know, just a grumpy old man. Yeah. Just grumpy old man. And, uh, Ms. Lynn was always a sweetheart to me. She just loved me to death back in those days. I seen like, but, uh, I don't know what changed. I guess I married her daughter in Vegas and she didn't agree with it. But, uh,

But yeah, you know, and, but I never really crossed, I didn't really have a lot of experience with her dad, you know, growing up. Just because it's so small, you hear the gossip. She had some, some uncles, you know, like Jamie's brother is named Wild Willie, you know, and he still like works for her dad. And, um,

I think one of the uncles is gone now, but they were always known for like living under the river bridge, you know, and being like the hippies and tree houses, you know, like literally. And it wasn't a big deal. And then it was just like, Oh, there's Austin in them, you know, jumping off the bridge, swimming and just like living on there. Yeah. That's hilarious. So take me on this journey of you guys getting married. You meet up with her, you, where'd you meet up with her at?

So she had two friends, Courtney Bravham and another friend, Jansen Fitzgerald. They were going also on the trip. So Courtney's mom drove us to the airport in New Orleans. Kent was like an hour drive. So I just met them. We drove to New Orleans to the private airstrip, and we met her there. And her mom got off, and we said hi to her. And her cousin, Lorraine, got off, and we said hi to her. And it was just like a...

quick exchange and then we were back in the air and uh it was me her brother she had this big bodyguard uh I don't remember his name back it was uh either way like her him and so me and him kind of just sat in the back and hung out while the girls kind of did their thing on the trip right four hour flight and I'm just drinking those little like shots like I don't know how people drink in the air dude I would be lit I was I was like well that was funny because her brother was with me and um

The funny thing is, is like I just recently saw the CNN thing that they put out with K-Fed and her brother and everyone was talking about Britney being on meth. I don't know if you saw that story, but anyway, you know, I was like thinking to myself, I was like, I think everyone, Kevin, Brian, uh,

K, all these people, they need to take a drug test. We need to see what these guys' drug screen looks like. Because Brian was like, like I was like, bro, when we got to Vegas, I was like, dude, I need this. When are we going to get the dope? He's like, when we get to the hotel room, I got you.

So K-Fad gives me musty vibes. Oh yeah. He's horrible. Like he took, he took, he took so much advantage over the situation. Yeah. We'll talk about him too when we get there. But just, you know, um, but even him, you know, there was feeding, you know, they're all taking drugs and like coke and ecstasy or whatever that was around in, um,

So that was kind of like, I was like, I'll just get drunk. And when we get there, I already knew we were going to get like some like good ecstasy or like Coke or something. We were going to party. Like, and I just remember our brother, you know, get, you know, anyway, it was just, we landed and, uh, it was at the, uh, Palms casino. So like this big green limousine picked us up. And, uh, it's crazy because, uh, I've never said this before, but I used to date

right yeah well I grew up in Vegas so I have to tell you after you tell me yeah and he but him and Brittany had like a weird relationship they did okay I saw that up close and personal so like after the first night we got it was just like that was an interesting thing because that's that's uh he was coming up to the room personally with uh

I didn't know for a fact, but I'm pretty sure it was an escort. Oh, yeah. So I got this vibe like when he came up this one time to visit us in the room, which was only once or twice. It was just me and Brittany. And, you know, he came up and was like hanging out with us. And so I felt like they had already had something like, you know, Palms was kind of like her place to go. And this is my first time visiting.

She used to stay at his house all the time, too. There you go. So, you know, I didn't even know any of that. But it just felt like he was lingering around, like he was waiting for me to be okay with, like, an orgy or something. Right, yeah. And when he realized that that's not how I roll, especially with... I always loved Britney to death. And, like, I don't like to share my women like that, you know? Especially with, like, that whole situation. Were you and Britney hooking up by then? Oh, yeah, it was total, you know. So the week at your house, you guys... The first time we'd ever...

First time we ever had sex was that week before I went to Vegas in Le Kentwood. What is sex with Britney Spears like? Am I allowed to ask that? She seems like she would be kind of... Am I allowed to ask that, wifey? Yeah, she could. I don't know. She's like, fuck. She knows what sex is like. You know, I mean, I'm...

I guess it's different with everybody, right? But she's, you know, it was the first time it was kind of raunchy, you know, it was in the shower. And then like, she just seems very, like a very sexual. Yeah, it was. She was very aggressive. She drug me back to the bathroom and like we got in the shower. So it was kind of, but I was, I was kind of already, you know, living that life and

So I had some tricks too, you know, but he's like, it wasn't all her. He's like, I'm pretty good in bed too. She invited me to Vegas afterwards and then got married to me. So something was good. Yeah. You guys probably just had super amazing. You know, that was interesting because after that we, we was at her or the house where she grew up when that happened and everyone left, even her brother and just left us at the house alone. And we come out of the bathroom and like,

We're in the living room or like having sex on the floor. And we, we fell asleep, like passed out, but naked. Yeah. Woke up her mom or dad or brother was awake Christmas morning at like seven o'clock. Like get up, Brittany, wake up. What is going on here? I'm like putting my clothes on. I'm freaking. And her brother drove me home that day. And I was just like, wow. And, uh,

It was stopped in Vegas and got married. You're like, uh, you're like a fairytale princess. Yeah. Yes. But you know, speaking of the, who we were talking about, like that was random because that's, that's kind of what I feel like the type of people that are still around her now, you know, that are kind of like, um, providing her with things and then taking advantage of it when she's at a certain state of mind. Um,

And I saw that up close and personal, you know. I saw a lot more that I won't mention, but... It's Vegas and just...

Hollywood and the industry I've grown up in it is a different beast. It is not what people think it is. It is literally a puppet show with people that are being controlled and money. And it's really dirty. It makes you feel gross. Like when you really know everything that's going on behind the scenes, you know, she was just there this past week and for 4th of July, when that whole TMZ thing came out with the basketball player and we were, we were talking about it. Cause like,

You know, she still calls me. Like the last time I talked to Brittany was like two weeks ago. Yeah. We were listening to a phone. I record all the phone call conversations just because of everything. Like that was the, that was how I was able to get the felony stalking charges dropped in. I would have probably fought and beat the trespassing and everything. But after being in jail for 70 days, I just took the little plea deal they gave me just to get out, you know, but. Do you have one that we can hear a sample of on the podcast? Um. Just so we can hear that it's her voice. Yeah.

I could tell you this, though. I mean, I don't really need to prove it, but I do. I have spoken to her mom recently, and her mom's confirmed it to me. And then also, just knowing the Britney brand, if...

if she wasn't calling me, I'd have been sued a long time ago, you know? Right. So like when I went to the, the, I've always questioned the free Brittany rally in July, you know, I took, that's when I came out and was telling everybody, look, I wouldn't be at this rally right now. If Brittany didn't call me and like, uh, start talking to me again. Cause I'd put it behind me. Like the last time I talked to her, it was like 2010. And, um,

You know, I recorded that conversation because this was like, it was just like a year into her calling me and the conservatorship was still like, I don't know. It was, it was a few years old, but she was thinking it was going to be over then. Right. And I was always like, that was always the excuse for us not to be able to see each other or hang out. It was like, you know, when this conservatorship's over, we could, um.

you know, we could hang out. Do you feel like, okay, so you guys, let's, we'll rewind it back real quick. So you guys ended up getting married in Vegas and then what happens 48 hours later? So,

When we got back from the chapel, no one knew about it. Right. I guess they started. Well, all of Vegas did. We knew. I was there. Well, people started finding out after like, because we were at, you know, got married at like 5 a.m. And then there was a few, there was a couple there getting married. Some people took some pictures. So that is, the media started talking about it and it got out pretty quick. But once we got back to the hotel room, we started telling our friends and our people, hey, look, we just got married and

That's when I realized I started getting really nervous and scared because everyone started acting crazy about it and they weren't happy. They called her mom and her mom got me on the phone and they were freaking out. They were like, Jason, you don't understand what you did. Everything you've ever done in your life is going to come out. I was just like, okay.

what have I done? I didn't know I murdered you. You're like, I'm just a partying football player. Like what is happening? I'm 22 or something. And like, um, I started getting a little overwhelmed and then, um, they were, you know, started coercing me into this idea of like, look, uh, would you sign an annulment? And like, if we let y'all date and,

you know, make sure this is what you really want. Cause they thought, you know, they thought it was just like a flash, but, but you know, her mom knew that me and Brittany had, you know, feelings for ever. And since we were kids, we've always kind of crushed on each other, but,

It was real. You know, my emotions were real. How was Brittany feeling with everybody telling her that she had to get an annulment? She actually wanted me to run away with her. She was like, fuck everybody. If they don't like it, you know, she's like, I'll get my jet and we'll go to Ibiza because that's where she wanted to go to take me on her honeymoon to Ibiza, Spain. I was like, fuck yeah. But you know what?

I don't regret anything in life, but that was something I look at and disappointed a little bit because I feel like I should have ran away with her because it was real. You thought you were doing right by her because she had so many people. I thought I was doing right. And the family had this respect. I had this respect for the family just because I'd known them since I was so young.

And so, you know, there was that part of it too. And then they promised me all this other stuff. And like, I didn't realize until I got sent home instantly, you know, it probably took eight hours for the lawyers to come in and for us to sign everything. But I do remember Brittany changed. Like she went from a certain way to like, once these lawyers got there, her mom wasn't there yet, but they took her into the other room. And when they separated us,

and for like an hour, maybe 30 minutes when she came back. And I said this in the interview years ago, I was like brainwashed or something, but she was this like different. She was, she knew what she had to do and she did it. And it was this quiet and she just kept her head down. I was like, wow, she probably felt defeated. And just, and that's why I kind of feel a little, you know, looking back at it now, like I'm like, wow. Cause you know,

She was starting to feel the control coming in then. Right. And I feel like, you know, I feel like that, you know, she was actually using me in that whole situation as a way to try to, like... Leave. Yeah. And I didn't really see it that way and didn't understand that then. But now after everything, you know, I'm like, man, you know, I wish...

But you know, like God works in that. It's crazy though that you would even think that or say that because she's been trying to run away forever now. It's what it seems like. It...

A hundred percent. It's almost like Rapunzel in the castle and just nobody's letting her out. Yeah. And now there's all these conspiracies that she's like either dead or like, is she dead? No, she's not. No. Have you seen her? Like, does she FaceTime you or is it just, you know what? She hasn't FaceTime me, but, um, how does she get your number all the time?

well I kept the same number so I didn't change it since she's had it the first time but the first time she reached out to me in you know 2020 when we started talking again she reached out to me through Facebook so it was through her sister's friend messaged me I sent her my number and then my phone rang but her number's never been the same like I can't contact her it's always a private call and um

I did get a number like a few weeks ago and then they instantly changed it because it's interesting because after the conservatorship, like I had the conversations of me and her talking for hours, you know, before like up until like, you know, the conservatorship was over with. And then I didn't, we like, like a few months went by where we didn't talk because her and Sam got married and stuff. And so it started changing behind the scenes. And so, um,

There was periods where we didn't talk, but then once we, you know, like since the conservatorships ended, it's the conversation has been completely different. Like it's not as genuine anymore.

And I felt like it's always been like screamed, like someone's standing there or something changed, you know? Well, she's probably scared to death of who she can trust and who she can't trust, you know? And I think a lot of people have told her lies about me. And so she doesn't even know what to believe about me either. But there's a reason she keeps reaching out to you. And there's a reason she keeps reaching out to me. So obviously you feel must feel like a safe space for her.

Yeah, you know, because I'm genuine, you know, like if you, I mean, I don't know if I'll let you listen to them maybe down the road if you want, but like not on the podcast. Right.

We were listening to one conversation last night and it was just like, I'm like, wow, she sounded like, like what happened? Like the conservatorship was going to be over 45 days from this conversation. And we, she talks about a lot of stuff in it and she just sounded so good. And I'm like, like you would have thought it would have went the direction of like, oh wow. Now she could be seen out in public and with doing normal stuff with her husband and like even maybe do a podcast or like something together where she

And it's just gotten worse. I don't think... Do you think her mental health is intact? Do you feel like she's drugged maybe? I do feel like she's being drugged. I don't know if she's complicit with it. Because her mom and dad were spiking her food. That's terrible. Putting drugs in her Red Bull and stuff. But...

I'll tell you, like, something very interesting. When I first went to California, like... I'll tell you when I got really concerned. When she posted nude on Instagram for the first time. And I was like... I was like, that did not make any sense to me. Like, you know, because...

There's better. I just feel like Britney Spears could have really capitalized off of something like that. Absolutely. And then to just do it this trashy little way. Sorry, Britney, but it was trashy little way on Instagram. Right. And they put a little heart over and I was just like, it really pissed me off. It's almost like a picture she sent to somebody that somebody else posted of her that she didn't know about. Like blackmail. Thank you. That's how I feel.

And their conversation we were listening to last night, she's talking about her social media and about the people that were running it. Now she says she's just done with it. She don't want them to do with it. So I feel like they're still propping it up and she does stays out of it for whatever reason. But probably for mental health. I mean, I do feel like I mean, you know what that but I pray, you know, I told her God's bigger than everything. I don't like putting mental health real, but

you know, that's like putting things in a box when God could really like cure and heal all situations and not the religious God, but like, you know, just like our creator God, the one that, you know, works in the spirit and really like, you know, through faith and practice, you can, you can tap into that stuff. But, uh, I feel like she's tapping into like the, the psychic side of the, uh, spectrum with all the people around her. And it's just, uh,

I'll tell you what is concerning is that the last time she called me, she told me she was suffering from a health issue, like a pretty serious one. Which one can we say? It was supposedly causing her to be bedridden, but that's obviously not the case because we saw her in Vegas, right? Did she tell you what it was that's causing her to be bedridden? Should I say? I think you should.

It's a, it's a, it's an autoimmune disorder. And, uh, well with all the trauma she's been through, I wouldn't doubt that she doesn't have two or three. Well, she took the vaccine also. And we talked about that and that's that I looked it up. Like a lot of the autoimmune disorders are caught in the blood is, is through like the vaccine that spike protein. That's kind of how it works in the blood. But a lot of people are seeing that happen now with, uh, now that everyone is taking the shot, uh,

There's times passing by you having, you know, these different elements pop up. So you think this autoimmune disorder is caused by her getting the vaccine or possibly with a lot of the other stuff like you're saying trauma is what is the number one reason and stress and just like maybe just like unhealthy lifestyle choices. She doesn't eat good and she drinks fucking Red Bull like they're going out of style. That'll make anybody fucking sick, you know? Exactly. So but the thing was, was I didn't.

I wasn't a hundred percent sure if that's a hundred percent accurate, but she did, you know, I prayed for her on the phone and she did cry before she got off the phone with me. Like she, I was like, never heard her crying. She even told me she loved me. And I was like, wow, that was intense. And, uh,

But then the next day, these pictures of her came out where she was on this yacht and supposedly in Mexico. And like, she's always surrounded by these dudes. Yeah. That's not healthy for a female. I mean, where's her girlfriends at? You know, it's like one. And they're like, I mean, you know, they're like in like big dudes and her security is like, yeah.

They're sketch. They're all like, you know, sketch. Well, they're all paid professionals that are, you know, paid people to be around her and just handle her. Well, they came to my trial in my preliminary hearing and testified that

a completely false allegation. They completely fabricated a scenario that never happened. I was sitting there going, the guy would not even look at me. This was one of the black box security guards that was at the wedding. And he's sitting up there and he's just saying, yeah, you know, we've been monitoring his Instagram because they were trying to make me out to be like this stalker. And I was like...

You know, we've been monitoring his Instagram and we've told him numbers of times not to come to the house. The day before I saw him, I was in my pickup truck. I videoed it. He come off the high control and I called him over to the truck and told him, hey, look, not to come to the property. Completely lie. Right. Never happened. Well, they have to make themselves look good. But it just, it was, it made a lot of things clear to me. I was like, wow, you know, because I always felt the security was like there to, you know,

Not to protect her, but to protect the lie, whatever that is, you know, right. Whatever it is that they're hiding. Yeah. Whatever they're hiding. And, um, I just feel like it's so, it's just a few people like, you know, I'll say it, Kate Hudson, this guy that's supposedly her friend and manager for the last 15 years. Like he's very toxic, uh,

I feel like he's almost like the Sam lefty part too, you know, and he's taking advantage of her and she, for some reason, trust him. But in all these videos, even in the TMZ video from Vegas with the basketball player, he's all like hugging her and he's always just touching her in a weird way where I'm like, and Sam's right there and I'm,

And I'm just always like, this is not your wife. Why do you touch her? Why are you so always up on her in a weird way? And it's almost like we get more footage of you and her touching each other than her and Sam touching each other. And then, like I said, some of the things I saw in Vegas just makes me think that

part of continuing the mental health in a bad way because if she had really good people around her she would be healing and just having more of a healthy lifestyle would be involved with her kids more and there wouldn't be these opportunities for K-Fed and the family to say she's on meth or not on meth or whatever they're trying to say supposedly she

She's already supposedly been offered to be put back into conservatorship and she'll be allowed to see her kids. So I heard that's something that's already been presented to her. So I feel like they're trying to almost blackmail her a little bit. They've always used her kids to blackmail her. In the media, negative media, to try to coerce her into something controlled scenario. Yeah.

I don't know what's going to happen, you know. I just know that the people around her are unhealthy for her. Right. And there's only a couple. And then everything we see from her doesn't match...

you know what we would like to see. Right. So let's rewind it back real quick. So you got sent home after you guys got married. And after that, when was the last, the next time that you saw her or had communication with her? Because you said that. I saw her in heaven fed a line in Kentwood at the Sonic for my good friend, Corey Butler. He passed away, drug overdose. He was like 20 something. Rest in peace, Corey. Um, yeah. Yeah.

Brittany and Corey were close, you know, like she was supposedly a virgin. Right. And, uh, you know, a couple, you know, so anyways, so like, I felt like she should have been at Corey's funeral, but her mom was there.

But she wasn't. But I was, you know, came with small Sonic's like the only place to eat. And it's like, everyone makes the Sonic loop, you know, like drives around town. Yeah. That's the thing to do. And they'll park. The kids out here do that. Yeah. Sit on the tail. It's the same thing they do out here. Yeah. And so I,

pulled up next to her and I'm like, holy shit, there she is. So I got out and talked to her then and it was Kevin sitting there like, you know, scared to death. He's a pussy. He's a pussy. And I mean, I was probably this size or bigger than I was playing football. So like, he was just like, you know, I made sure I went up to the window kind of flex on him, flex on him a little bit, you know, but like that was the last time I saw her cordial and nice. He didn't say anything. He just kept looking straight. Wow. Yeah. But

Then after that, I moved to L.A. When you saw her, what did you say? I was just like, hey, why don't you at Corey's funeral? She said something. I don't know. It was very quick. I was like, all right. It was good seeing you. It was just kind of really awkward. I just got in my car and rolled out.

That was like, that was it, you know? And then I seen her when I moved to LA like a year later, um, football kind of ended for me and I didn't have, I didn't really have any plans on what I was going to do with my life and my buddy. What made you want to go to LA?

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Sign up today. This was like two years after the wedding. And so 2006, a buddy of mine, he's really, he's a drummer and he was in like a couple of bands and he wanted to be in the music industry. So his family's rich and he has a doctor. And like, anyway, he was like, I got a place already picked out. You just got to come with me. Yeah. And I was like, sweet. And I think I had just made like a, you know, like a,

Little money so you know I was working and then I got paid from my first interview ever that I ever did for Britney thing because for two years I wasn't really able to Capitalize off of it because of some of the contracts I signed and then you ever feel bad for capitalizing off of Only because because my life was so different afterwards and the way that they exiled me from the situation I always felt like

You know, I should have been able to use that since it did change my life and it is part of my life. And like when you say change your life, you mean like in a bad way? It just made I was just in the public eye. So, you know, ever since then, like I've been in the public eye, I got married and like the news. I don't know how the news found out about it, but they print it and stuff.

So I just come to realize that that was going to be something common, you know. And I was also thinking, why not go to Hollywood and see if there's any opportunities there?

And I felt, what's the word? I just felt like I was up, it was like me against Britney's brand. Not Britney ever, but it was like, oh, you guys, XI wasn't good enough or whatever, so I'm going to go to Hollywood and just put myself in the middle of you guys and just show you that I'm not going away. Right. You can't just sweep me under the rug. Because it made me feel like I wasn't worthy, you know? Right. And so...

I did that. I took the opportunity and it was awesome. Like, so when I moved there, I moved into the Archstone. This is the apartment complex in North Hollywood where Ashley Simpson and all these people lived, you know, like, and anyways, like I found out seeing her dad there. Her dad lived in the apartment complex. I'm like, how do I move across the country and end up living in the same apartment complex? So,

I started seeing him and she lived not far away off Mulan Drive. And so I actually pass her all the time, you know, because Papa Ross used to park up there and it was really wild. And so it was just like random stuff like that. I went to her concert at the Staples Center and like saw her in person. Like she didn't see me, but like, you know, so just like that's the kind of way I saw her. But it wasn't never.

Her reaching out, right? And she kept in touch, you know, throughout the years. Like, she starts, like, so after 2004, we talked...

probably for a few months and then that ended and then she started calling again like 2009 and so we talked for like a year and then that ended when she calls what does she say like back then it was uh really interesting because the internet there was no social media still like the instagram and stuff so it was just like i really had like facebook and like yes facebook and stuff like that so it was like i didn't have a lot to go off of but she would just tell me just random stories like oh this guy in my neighborhood

trying to date me or something. I think she just wanted someone to talk to. She just wanted a friend. And so I just was an ear, you know, but I've always had these feelings and I guess I was kind of selfish about it too, even, you know, even up till recently because I always...

thought we would end up back together, you know, some does a party. You still love her and no disrespect. I do still love it. And, um, but it's different now, you know, God's God's given me a beautiful wife and like, yeah, she resembles Brittany actually. Yeah. I mean, it's not really, you know, I can say maybe physically, but, um, completely different person personality. And, uh, she's helped me. We were friends, you know, she's helped me a lot. So,

She knows a lot of the story and everything, but you know, when it changed, I'll tell you when it changed, when I got her, when I went to the wedding and it was like, you know, that's what you do. You crash the wedding and you're getting married to a guy. So, okay, let's, let's, let's, let's, uh,

you know, zone in on this for a second. Cause he says it so nonchalantly. He's like, you know, you're, you crashed the wedding, but it's not just anybody's wedding. It's Britney Spears wedding, you know? So were you guys talking right before Britney? We were. And so it was also, it was like two years. We've been talking for two years because most people think that you're just this ex-boyfriend who came out of nowhere, who has no communication with her and decided to crash her

wedding because of the media. Yeah, you know, you can't please everyone. But like, she started calling in 2020, you know, because I guess she just got released from this 5150 thing that she was in. It was April 2020. I mean, it all lines up on the timeline. And,

And it she got out and I guess you know after 30 90 days and whatever this thing was she she must have had some thoughts about me because she reached out to me. I'm just like it was very strange because it'd been 10 years. I had literally put it. I was like I'm done with Brittany. I was living my life. I had a son and was like you know in another relationship and I just started like working you know doing what I do. And so I

I wasn't even in the media at all. Yeah, you had gone away for a while. And so I was done with it. And when she started reaching out again, the Free Britney movement had kind of got big. And it was just all these different things happened really quick. I got this email to do a documentary thing. And then I ended up at the Free Britney rally. And that kind of put me back in the media a little bit.

But we never stopped talking from that April all the way until two weeks ago. Like, you know, like I said, there's been a few months. Did she help you when you were in your addiction or did she know anything about it? Absolutely. I mean, I think that's why she felt a lot. She, like we were talking about it. It's like probably why the people around her felt comfortable to let her talk to me because I was in such a low place. They didn't really feel threatened by me. Mm-hmm.

And they felt like probably that's a way to keep her preoccupied. Yeah, exactly. And they never thought that I would go as far as coming to California and going to the house and like calling things out. Does she have to call you from burner phones or is it like, so like if she's being monitored so much, like how does she even have, it's always a burner number. It's always a burner number. It's either an Android or iPhone without an iCloud. Texts are always green.

And it's just, it's always, it used to be WhatsApp. And then, you know, then there's always these 805 numbers. They're just like, obviously she gave it to me a few weeks ago.

I was texting her for a couple of days until I started texting her and she wasn't responding. And I started kind of hitting her with some hard text. And then she finally just... When you say hard text, what do you mean? Well, I was just like, so you told me you have this health issue, but I see you on a yacht in Mexico with all these guys. And you look like you're on the table and doing slam slapping. I'm just like, cool. I was like, so what's the truth? And then so I was just like...

to asking her, so, you know, if you're really sick, you know, you had me worried. Yeah, like, how are you doing? How are you? She's like, well, what makes you think that's current? And I was like, okay. But then I'm like, the photos are current, you know, like the, you look it up, the photos were taken, you know, on the date that they said they were taken. So,

Then I started saying things like, well, you remember Vegas when so-and-so came up to our room and I walked in on certain things. And like I said, I feel I feel like that's happening with you right now. And she texts back and was like, that's that's crazy or something. And I was like a text. When you say walked in on certain things, you feel like she's being like controlled or manipulated or sexually like in an orgy.

Did you walk in on her having an orgy? I did. In Vegas? Yeah. Wow. So... With... Can we stay here? We can beat the names out. Like, I fell asleep. The story is just like... I'm sorry, Brittany, but...

I fell asleep and woke up and she wasn't there. I was like, so, you know, she had two suites and we were in our suite and then there was the MTV real world, real world suite. Yeah. Everybody fucking dancers and everyone for her toxic tour was staying in. Like, so I woke up and she's not here and went up there and I walked in and it was like all the dance, like everyone that was in that suite, they were all just kind of doing their thing. And I'm like, you know, this was, you know, um,

Once I saw her, she came with me, but it was just like... Who was she having an orgy with? Her dancers? Yeah. Oh, wow. And other people that I don't even remember. Girls and guys? Yeah. Gay guys. That was what was odd to me. It was like, you're hooking up with a gay guy. So that's what made me say, is that the same thing that's happening right now? Because she told me Cade's bisexual.

And so I'm like, oh, is that what y'all are doing is taking drugs and doing orgies and stuff. And then she changed her number on me. And I was just like, well, that was random. So I guess you don't have these health issues that you told me about. But it just that's the kind of lies I'm talking about that don't make sense. You know, I don't know why she would say those things. But and you haven't talked to her since then.

No, I have some missed calls from a private number, you know, and it's always usually her that calls me from a private number. I have no other, never, phone never gets a private call from anybody else. Right. But, uh,

It's all right. You know, she's called twice since then. And, but I don't know. I'll probably get a call after this podcast. Hi, Brittany. If you're watching, we love you. Um, so let's circle back to the wedding. You had been talking to her for two years prior to that, the morning of the wedding, you just wake up and you're like, I'm not going to let this fucking go down because first of all, where did Sam even come from? Yeah, exactly. So exactly. Yeah. A hundred percent. The dude is a, he's a, you know, he's a pop in the game, you know? So, um,

And how does he get in the circle when it's so tight? And so I saw you running around the house and I mean, you ran around the house. I went to her room. It was locked. And she, but she was nowhere there. Like unless she was in the room, the only time that made me think that maybe she was there was when I was actually tackled at the end of the, I was laying on the ground. Like they were giving me water because I was exhausted. It was hot that day.

And everyone... Were you sober? Oh, yeah. Completely sober. Yeah, for sure. So everyone around, I was looking at them all around the top. I was like on the ground. How nice of them, though, to tackle you and give you water. Yeah.

Oh no, right now? No, no, no. I said how nice of them to tackle you and give you water. That's what I thought. I was like the security guard. That's nice. I was like, can I get some water? And the security guard went and got it. And I'm like tied up like this. And they're like pouring it in my mouth. And they all go and they look at the window. And I'm like, as soon as I turned around, there was no one there. And I was like, was that Brittany? And no one said anything. But, you know, I think it was, I never saw her. I saw Sam and I saw Kate. What did Sam do when he saw you?

Well, I was in the back of the cop car at that time and the windows were tinted. So I don't think he knew I was back there. Right. I watched him walk around. I just got his body language and just was like, he's a bozo. He's a straight bozo. She has a type. Yeah. I mean, besides you. As long as he doesn't move, he doesn't say anything, I guess. Maybe. But what? Aqua geo, you know, maybe. Joop. You know, either way, like.

We pray for Sam, you know, because he's probably in over his head. You know, they're taking advantage of his ignorance and not to say that. Well, they're saying that Sam's married to his sister who pretends to be his sister. We've said that there's some looks kind of, I think Sam's gay. Right. And Brittany and I've talked about it.

a lot of people think he's gay. Just people that know gay people. And I'm going to tell you what, I know gay people because every gay person in Hollywood tried to fuck me. I'm just like, they love me. No, that's how they are. They love alpha males. They love it. And I'm just like, you know, they love what they can't have. And I just, but I was always really fun, you know, so I wasn't,

Did you ever give in to any temptation? No, but I was like, man, if I was gay, I would never have some of the financial issues that I've had. I was like, I would have been like sugar daddy. You could be gay for pay. He's like, no. I couldn't do it, you know, but, you know, but, you know, I got in, what really, what really financed my Hollywood life was like, I found medical marijuana. Like I didn't know anything about it from Louisiana when I moved there.

my friends schooled me about the doctor and how the prescription worked and how all that worked. And then we ended up starting a delivery service, legal, you know, me and my buddy. And we were like one of the first ones in LA. And so I got into working with the dispensaries and then eventually growing it and then extracting it. So,

It was a whole underground world before it was legal in 2016. It really cash flowed my whole, you know, life basically. Yeah. And so it allowed me to have a life in the expensive, you know, city of LA at the time in Hollywood and go out to the clubs and be able to like hang out and be in that world. But, you know, I've just... So the morning of the wedding? The morning of the wedding...

my friend Rebecca here now wife at the time she's my friend so you you were involved during this time you guys had met so let's okay let's circle back when did you and Rebecca meet Rebecca you want to come on the couch baby come on in this is miss mrs Jason Alexander yeah so Rebecca and I were what I was saying when the change happened was when I got arrested and went to jail and everything like

spiritually things changed, you know, because of my faith and stuff. But like at the time we were just friends. And so they were helping me through the process a lot. Like she spoke into Brittany also, you know, many times. Was Brittany happy when you got married? Yeah. She seemed to really like, she seemed to be cool with it. How do you feel? Yeah, we talked to her. Do you feel like she was happy that you guys got married or that you were in his life? Yeah, I think so. I think that, um,

It's been interesting because I talked to her last year and the conversation was more genuine. I met him and then we went to Huntington Beach where I have some friends. You met him in when? What year? July 2020. Okay. So we were in Huntington Beach with some of my friends and we were having these conversations with Brittany during that time and it was really normal.

and um for the situation and then it changed after we tried to go see her and like we're texting and I instantly knew that's not Brittany texting and I I could discern it and uh

I take the phone from him and I go, I just start texting. I was provoking it out, whoever this was. And finally they go, oh, my ring's on her finger, bro. Yeah. And I was like... That was the first time... This is ridiculous. So you think that was Sam? Yeah. It was Sam or somebody around her trying to be funny. So do you guys...

When you guys talk to her, you guys actually have phone conversations with her too so that you know that it's her and it's not somebody just playing a joke on you? 100%, like 1,000%. Because you know how people are these days. No, I know, and that's okay for them people because you can't, you know, like you said, you're going to have people that are going to just question everything. Because for me, it was difficult for me because I even, like in my head, you know, a lot of times it's like,

What's really going on? Because that's why I started having only phone call conversations because the text got so... Weird. Just bobulated. It just didn't add up. And they said the text would go back and forth where if you got too into something that was serious or real information that wasn't just talking about simple things, it'd instantly be this...

More intense text that was like clearly somebody around her wants to make sure that this stays a contained situation. They don't like logic. They don't like critical thinking. They don't like somebody that's going to like point out the obvious. And they just want to keep her in this state of like.

You're Britney Spears. You're a pop star. You could take the back exit and just like, this is how you live when you're this type of person and just keep her in this weird dumbed down mindset. When I talk to her, I have just normal conversations like, hey, so when's the last time have you talked to your sons? Why have you talked to them? What do you think about these different stories?

stories and allegations and just kind of keeping it normal. And they don't like that because it's like, obviously. It makes her think. Makes her think. And she's, you know, she's less, I don't know. I'm not in the, I'm not a fly on the wall right now. So I can only imagine.

Like what's actually, how it's all actually, you know, working on the inside. So you think that they actually allow her to speak to you guys? Yeah. And I think they do it to track us as well. And just to make sure that we're,

Well, that was a big reason for us to do this podcast is because, you know, like on my social media and hers, like we don't, we're not really like really private people. So we don't really post a lot of stuff and we haven't since we've been married. And like, it has been a lot of games and like she said, and that's kind of why I feel like it's so important for me to talk and say, you know, my side of the story or just like put myself out there a little bit because for one, for her safety, um,

If she is, you know, using these drugs, it could possibly hurt her or she's having health issues or these people around her are taking advantage of her or whatever. Because, you know, her dad got removed from the situation and we all thought things were going to be better, you know. Do you think he's fully removed, though?

I don't know, but either way, he's been like a fall guy, you know, to kind of take all the rap. But she's still missing a lot of money. There's a lot of things that they're using these distractions to keep from focusing on, like, hey, we're like $600 million, you know? Brittany has been in a conservatorship. She can't spend her money. Why is she only, like, why is she going to run out of money? Like, what do you mean?

she's only worth 50 or $60 million. Like that, this doesn't, when you look at the, the, you know, finances and everything. And I think it's corrupt. There's this documentary I posted on my Instagram. It's called slave princess. And, um, it really goes into the depth of the corruption and, you know, not just with Brittany, but Hollywood in general. And a lot of people that get in these contracts and around these certain people, um,

You know, it gets really deep. Do you think she's involved in the Illuminati? Well, the Illuminati is for real. It's definitely a real thing, but it's not so conspiratorial. You know, it's just like there is a banking system. There are, you know, trilateral commissions. Oh, yeah, the Rockefellers. And all these families. So, like...

And Hollywood was, you know, like Hollywood was, is the Holly tree, which is what, which is wands are made of the wood from a Holly tree. That's just like the story. And so Hollywood is this fabricated reality that actors and musicians are part of. And sometimes they know it, sometimes they don't. And I don't think Brittany actively like is enrolled like Jay-Z is, or like, you know, like some of these other people are.

You know, because when you start talking like that, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist and all this stuff. But she's definitely being handled, you know, in a certain level. I mean, nobody can deny that. Exactly. And then the interesting thing is, is like with all the media, like I reached out to this Daphne lady who did the Daily Mail article in my...

They never mentioned me in this article. And it's just like, you know, for the one person she's been talking to and like actually went to the wedding, it's just like they really overlooked me for some reason. And like they really want everyone to think that she is making bad choices and they want to put all the blame on her. And I just don't feel that's the case. I feel like she's a victim and that she needs to be have some compassion and she needs to have people around her. They're loving and caring to help her.

But the ones that are around her now are just child's play, you know, for selfish personal gain. And, uh, there's a lot of money moving around, you know? I mean, I'm sure you, you and jelly get a taste of it. Like this, this, like once you get to a certain level, like, you know, things, you know, people are making money. People make, you know, Brittany, but I know like poor people compared to Brittany. For instance, uh,

Just as simple as an assistant or someone like a hairstylist. People are making $80,000, $100,000 a year. That's on the low end. And then you have people like lawyers that are making a couple million dollars a year off of it. It just keeps going and going. Do you ever feel that you talking to the media jeopardizes her being able to get away? You know, because the way they have...

characterized me in the media and they've used the media as a weapon against me. I feel like it's my only way to kind of like combat that is by putting myself out there a little bit. Cause I haven't really put myself out there a whole lot intentionally, like besides the media, just taking something and putting it out. Right. Making you look crazy. You know? So this is like me just saying, you know, the truth and the story from my perspective and like, uh, that way. And guys, I just want to, I just want to interject really quick. Um, cause my, my,

my followers know how I am. I'm a huge energy person. So I just want you guys to know I'm sitting across from him and his wife right now and their energy is so good and just so sweet and relaxed and calm and it's not anything that you would ever read about. Yeah, not at all. Like, I mean, even his mannerisms when he's telling these stories, you can usually tell when somebody's lying and

it just seems like you're really just telling your truth. You got a very strong gift and discernment. I do too. And I, when I feel anxiety, I feel other people's stuff. So like, and if it's not other people's, the circumstance itself, the witchcraft involved in it, I feel that anxiety. But, um,

That's just how you start to have a relationship with God. That's when you start understanding how He talks to you and how your emotions work. Things that I thought were me when I was not as rich in my faith, I'm learning now is me picking up on something else. So now I can discern differently and make better decisions and acclimate my life to that and really grow as a person. So that's where I'm at now.

Thanks for recognizing that. I got a question for you. And this is just, I'm sure this is just going to be inquiring minds. People are going to want to ask this. How does it make you feel? You know that your husband is so set on helping Brittany and like, you know, it's kind of like, it seems like you guys kind of share this passion though. So like, how does this whole situation make you feel as a wife, as a new wife? Mm hmm.

Um, you know, I like, I like Brittany a lot. And when we talked as friends, like as friends, it was pretty normal. And, you know, we talked, she, I knew she cared about him a lot. And so that's important. And there is that bond they have. And that's also important. So to me, like, I'm not intimidated by it. Um,

But the level of pain in the situation is so intense. But that's God's best way to live a wonderful life. She looks like she's about to start crying right now. I know. She picks up on it. You can just feel all the hurt from her. Yeah. And it hurts you. Yeah. And we've spoken to a lot of people that do trafficking, like real trafficking situations. We went and watched the Sound of Freedom movie recently. That's more like child trafficking, but like...

The level of trafficking that is happening to Brittany basically is just more professional. It's more elite. And she is a victim, like I said. So I feel like it's important to talk about it. And that's why...

this is i've never had like my my ex-relationship it caused a lot of problems because the she was very jealous i guess you know what it just wasn't easy and i never i never was cheating on i never had it wasn't it wasn't ever that disrespect for me it was always like just genuinely like i have this history and it's never been closed and there's a reason for that and i feel like

That's where my position is to be a mouthpiece a little bit about it to give some type of clarity. The fact that she was my friend before and then she understood it. Once I went to jail and I was in jail that time for the trespassing, the wedding, I had a revelation. It was like, look, God spoke to me in my dream and said, she's going to...

You have to move on. That's not an option for you. But I didn't know how or what. I just knew I was done chasing that idea that I'm going to be with Brittany after all these phone conversations we had. I just realized that that was kind of making me crazy a little bit. Do you feel like you and Brittany have a twin flame journey? You guys kind of chose that journey for this life. Do you believe in stuff like that?

I believe they had a soul, like a, it was like a holy soul tie in a good way that was always pulling them out of dark pits. And I think that that's part of what I honor and recognize. Yeah. I think that's so sweet of you because most women would not be as mature about the situation. Yeah. That's, that's, that deserves maturity, emotional. I never had that in my life, even from my mom.

So it's new for me and like it's making me a better person too because I'm like a lot, I get angry like not in a really angry way but it comes on. Aggressive. Like I'm very righteous, you know. Right. And so I feel like there is righteous anger and it's okay to get angry about some things and God gives, you know, he wants you to stand up for yourself. So...

for her, she, she understands that and does it take it personal and she talks me, we could talk through it and, and, and that makes it, um, that makes it really, you know, refreshing for us and for me. But, you know, it just, when, when we saw each other after I got out of jail, we saw each other again and instantly I knew something was different. And, uh, yeah, it happened really quick. And, uh,

You know, we started, you know, getting intimate. And I never thought I would be married because of my trauma with my family getting divorced. And I was always scared of just getting married. And I didn't...

I just thought it was kind of religious too. Like, I'm not getting married. It's kind of like, that's church stuff. If I'm loyal to you, you know, I'm loyal to you. And like this weird thing. And so like with her, she was really adamant about like, if we're going to be together, you know, that's a spiritual tie. And it's something that you need that we, that I want to do if we're going to move forward. She deserves that. I was like, I honored that. So I said, there's a lot of peace in marriage. Like, you know, as teammates, when you work together, you know,

And you're hand in hand and you know, you have that extra bond. That's kind of like whatever the fuck you're doing, whatever the fuck I'm doing.

we're still together and nothing's going to break that kind of thing. I love that. When's your birthday? December. December what? 11th. You're a Sagittarius. When's your birthday? I'm a Libra. October 16th. Oh yeah. That's me and Jay. Fire and air. I'm Aquarius and he's Sag. He's a December 4th. So air fuels the fire. Yeah. I mean, the Zodiac, I'm not super into it, but it's always accurate for me. It explains me to T.I. when I read them. Go figure you marry another Sagittarius, by the way.

and that wasn't Britney's a Sagittarius right I think her birthday is the second because yeah it is I was talking to her makeup artist and kind of helped set up this thing where and she ended up calling on her birthday this year and last year before we were married and

It just, it's never bothered me. So I think the biggest thing is that all the bullshit is gone and that people like Cade, Hudson, Maxie, Sam, you know, all the people behind the scenes that you know that like this is not a game and like there's no fear and you need to quit the shit. You know, I've talked to her. I said, God's going to get you the fuck out of there. Like she's,

She's in a shithole. You get so emotional when you talk about it. I think that's so sweet because you're his wife and you're here crying over his ex-wife. That means a lot. That just shows that you want to help her. It's compassion. It's not around her. Her mom should actually be fighting harder. Let's talk about her family. So...

Lynn has been a complete letdown. Jamie has been a, Jamie Lynn has been a complete letdown. Like all her friends, like I went home recently. Okay. And I reached out to her friends, Jansen, these, these people that I went to school with and they're all just hands off. They don't want to, they don't want their name in the media. They don't want the attention or whatever side effect that's going to come from like speaking up.

And they just, you know, they're really fearful. Yeah. And her mom even said to us was like, yeah, Brittany just needs to be scared so bad where she'll, you know, make the right decision to get out or something. Her mom has said that? That's what she said. What exactly did she say? Yeah.

She said this to you guys? Yeah, we saw her at the post office in November, last November, and she was scared at first, and then she realized, okay, we're normal. That's how I was. I was scared, too. I asked Haley today. I was like, how are they? Are they okay? And Haley was like, they're amazing. I was like, okay, cool. I knew it was going to be like that, but it's how it always is because when you don't know, all you see is what you see, and it definitely does throw a curveball at people. Yeah.

When you saw her mom, what happened? Yeah, she was just... She seemed just...

So fearful. I'm like, where's the fear coming from? Like, I don't care if you got blackmailed five times like this and this you did this or that like just, you know, stop. Stop being afraid. Like that's some bullshit. Like and that's how this whole situation happened, you know, right? And so she said to you guys when you guys were at the post office that she was Brittany needs to just kind of comply. Yeah, she was kind of timid and I started pressing for, you know, we'll have you talk to Sam like,

she said she's talked to him only for like 15 minutes on the phone. I'm like, okay. And then like just questions like when was the last time you saw her? Like something about she couldn't get into the rehab facility in 2019. So they've been blocking everybody from seeing her, even her mom. She just recently went to LA and had to go to Cade's house and

to try to set up a meeting with Brittany that lasted two and a half hours, you know, and then... So Brittany talking bad about her mom on social media, do you think that's her? I think that's Maxie or Cade or the people that are pushing the narrative for her media. And I think she's done with that. Brittany's not...

She's, she's, she's for whatever reason, it's not saying anything, but she's, there's nothing to do with the social media. And if you had said that, but I was just making sure I wanted to clarify for everybody at home that's listening. And, um, actually for people that don't know is Sam's good friend. Who's, uh, I don't know if he's transgender or whatever he is, but he is responsible for getting Sam the gig on the slumber party video and set that whole meeting up. So, um,

Do you think the wedding was real? Because there's so many conspiracies going around about her being photoshopped in or like a body double. There were definitely photoshops and she admitted some of that in the conversation when we all three talked probably in...

April and we had a conversation it was like I could tell I'm like well you guys are playing games so I'm gonna play games back and um it's like who's sitting there like Cade is sitting there with you or like what's really going on and you know before all this happened she was more normal so that's how I know her voice sounds more forced and

She's definitely not as relaxed in our conversations now. And you just can't... They get cut off and she just like, you know, the phone just goes dead in the middle of a conversation. And then you don't hear from her for a month. And then all of a sudden she'll call. And so... Do you think the wedding was real? I think it was. I think so. I don't know if she was actually there or not. I don't know.

But I think it's real for not like she wanted to be just like that was like an option they gave her. Right. And they gave her this like script and said, this is how it's going to go. And she had some feelings for Sam maybe. And she was like, oh, he's cute. Yeah, that could work. And like she goes with these like ideas that they put at her. And they say, it's going to be funny. It's going to be great. You just say, you know, and it'll be a way to...

Puts you out. I don't know exactly how it works, but I'm just assuming, you know, from experience and what I discern. This will paint a picture in the media. It was probably a contract where it's like, hey, it's going to last two years. That's why you're hearing about they're having trouble now. Maybe now he's going to exit, you know, and then, you know, I don't know what the next plan is. Her dad, do you think her dad is...

Yeah.

And she's the one coerced, uh, Jamie into the conservatorship. And like, she's the, the, the one that's really, uh, you know, known in Hollywood for trying to do this to other people. She tried to have Lindsay Lohan put in the conservatorship. Lindsay had to move to Dubai to get away from Kanye. You know, I mean, uh, Kanye is, you know, was talking about moving to another state or had to change residents so that they couldn't do that to him, you know? And, uh,

That's definitely a strategy Hollywood uses. And Britney's probably like the MO for that now, you know. But I don't think he's that smart. But if anything, I feel like he was controlling some of the like, even though it was overkill, he was keeping her out of a lot of

toxic situations like the one I saw her in in Vegas. They knew that stuff was going on, I promise you. That was just my quick little glimpse into the window. So just imagine like...

Like if I were to see, you know, more. Right. So that was just a weekend. Exactly. And so the dad and mom both, you know, and I think the mom's probably guilty of some things, too. I know the brother's guilty of some things. Blackmail. He's the one getting his drugs. And I like, you know, just like so. What's your thoughts on Jamie Lynn? She's just she's just naive. She's just, you know, she's just she grew up really young and like Lou still manages her.

Her whole life revolves in the shadow of Britney. You could tell when she did that show on ABC, she was really insecure and cried about it. And that goes to show you that the mom and dad are horrible people because they're not giving the kids the compassion and love that you're supposed to get. They're like showbiz parents. Yeah, exactly. Kind of that fake religious stuff. Like when I talked to her...

She's like, well, we just need to pray for her. And it's like, well, that's not going to do, like, shit. Like, yeah, pray for her, but also, like, God's inside of you, so, like, go do something. I mean, I'm glad she did go try to see Brittany, but her friends are, like, hypocrites. Like, she has this one friend, Jansen, who just does nothing. It's like, what are you doing? Like, speak out. Like, and then her, Laura Lynn, her cousin, and...

Courtney seems nice. They're all okay. They're nice. But what does that do? There's nice. And then there's strong, powerful. Let's get things going. And if more people were like that, this situation would not be a standstill. Yeah, exactly. So in a perfect world, what would you guys hope to accomplish? Like the next time Brittany calls you, like, what do you guys want to do? Are you guys going to keep playing the ring around the Rosie? Are you guys going to actually like try to help pull the trigger on getting her out and like,

Well, if you do get her out, what's the plan then? I will. I think it's, you know, she, she's been, um, she grew up in this, you know, even in the Mickey mouse club, you know? So, uh, she's used to this man, like people telling her what to do. And, uh,

So she has free will at the end of the day. I just want to give her the option if she does, you know, feel like she needs somebody or she wants to get out of it, that she has people that she can rely on, you know. So you feel like she does have free will? You don't feel like she's being controlled right now? It's like part, it's, she has to, I think she's just got to get so fed up that she doesn't. The issue is the drugs. Like, okay, maybe like drugs, but at the same time,

You can't do drugs around certain people who are also just, you don't know their full motives. And just because you see them when they come to your house doesn't mean that they're the same way away from you. Like, just because Paris and Cade, like, talk to you all nice when you're on the phone and, like, when you go out sometimes, like, doesn't mean that they talk about you the same way away from you. That gossip. And there are political...

There's so many connections and it's the money, money motivated. I get it. We need money to live. But at that point, you know,

It's just not. She's got to come to that point where she doesn't take the drugs with them. She's got to stand up for herself. Like Tina Turner, right? Right. I mean, she came to the point where she's like, I had enough. She took off running and she said, fuck this shit. You know what I mean? So you think of Brittany? But I think that kind of happened when I was in jail and her car broke down on the interstate. I don't know if you remember that coming out. She was alone and the car broke down.

and she got into someone's car. They didn't even realize who it was at first. If you read the article, she didn't even call Sam. They called...

Who did they call? Just the police. The police. Somebody she was in the car with. And so, yeah, someone that she was in the car with called the police. She didn't, Brittany didn't even call Sam. I don't know if, I felt like that was her trying to escape or get away then because it was like she was alone. It was after, you know, the wedding thing and all that happened and

To see the media play out in jail, like her lawyer, Rosengart, went on TMZ and he stood in front of the Ventura County Police building and was like, we're going to prosecute to the fullest. And I saw that from inside jail on TMZ. And I'm like, this is crazy. And then I go to court and I find out the district attorneys are filing the charges, not Rosengart. So it wasn't like that was a show pony. And then

Then I see Sam, then I see me on Good Morning America where they talk about her ex-husband crashes the wedding and this and that. And then the next day it's Sam in this like formal interview that never got asked about the situation. And it was just like his career and how being married to Brittany's helped his career. And I'm just like all these. And then I read my discovery packet and Kay is in there, you know, looking at it.

lying to the investigators that Brittany had said to him when I came there that she was concerned and scared, which when I asked Brittany about that recently after the first or second time I talked to her after I was released from jail,

She said I had nothing to do with that. So I was like, well, he said that. So this is, you know, he lied. And one of her former makeup artists also said that she didn't have any legal say-so with that. So with all that in mind, for her to get out, it would take her being desperate and not willing to go with the party anymore.

and we also told her we we have someone who can get you out in 24 hours and they go they can go above the ventura police who are connected to her husband this whole thing with the ventura police there you have abbas paymard you know and he supposedly there's maddie paymard who's maddie as gary and then we're just supposed to like believe that these

Kim Kardashian wannabes, which there's nothing wrong with Kim Kardashian. We love Kim. And there's nothing wrong with wanting to look like her. Like, she's beautiful, but at the same time, the context is a little off with, like, being her sister-in-law. So Sam has relatives in the Ventura Police Department. Sheriff's Department, yeah. So we feel there's connections there and that they were exploited in the case with me trespassing and the way they...

held me and on these felony charges with high bail and just the way that whole process played out. So because I had also years before when her dad was involved still like in 2010, I did the same thing. I went to her house, me and my cousin, and we snuck in the neighborhood, like the same type of private gated type community, got right up to the driveway and like

three SUVs pull up the last one stops and they recognize we were out of you know place and like what are y'all doing and I told him I'm going to my uncle Jamie's house up here and he like radioed hey Jamie we got somebody and I was like Jason Alexander and Lynn and Jamie came out to the sidewalk and we talked and they were like you know yelling at me what are you doing here and

they were just like, don't you ever come here again? I was like, Brittany's been calling me and I, she like, I want to see her. And they were like, you're not going to see her. You got to go. We're going to call the police next time. And they had me escorted out. And then no, it was nothing ever happened. No, the media, no one even knew. Right. But then this time, you know, like, uh,

It was handled way differently. Well, you were alive also, weren't you? I did go live, but I was scared. It was very, it was intimidating situation because of the, you know, me and her had spoke about her security having, you know, being armed once before she was already worried when we were talking about meeting months before that she was like, it was always trying to find a time where either Sam wasn't there or,

or if I came, you know, uninvited that she was worried their bodyguards might shoot me or something. And it just was like, what do you mean? You can't tell them guys like, Hey, I know this guy, like, you know, and in the lab, I don't know if it showed, but one of the security guard did pull his weapon out. He never actually pointed it at me, but, um, he did pull it out, which, uh, was kind of surprising to me. Um,

And I just felt like the whole thing was really sketched, like, you know, from the people that were there that day. I did see body cam footage later on from my attorney of K, like screaming at everybody and just really belittling the people that were there about how did this happen to the most, like the biggest pop star in the world, you know? And he got, he's just like freaking, just freaking out, you know, like this, and I'm like, whoa, this guy is unstable.

And I even saw him before they had tackled me. And I was like, Hey, Kate, I saw there's Kate. I mean, Hey. And he looked at me and took off running. And so, you know, it was just like no normal conversation happening. And it was just like, uh,

Brittany had no say so. Right. Well, that seems to be the going consensus that really she just has no control. No control. You guys think that she's being, do you think that she's under the influence in the videos where she's twirling around and dancing nonstop? I think those are all like, I don't know if any of those are current videos. Hmm.

But the one in Vegas recently, the people that were witnesses of that said she was speaking in that British accent, you know, kind of like she was in 2009 and stuff. Whenever she had that mental breakdown. And she did her hair and shaved her head and all that. And so that's why I say, you know, the people around her are not healthy. And they're just...

fluffing her up in whatever way just for their own personal fun. Padding their pockets. Yeah, whatever that looks like. I don't know if she realizes or if she even cares how her reputation looks because it seems like she just doesn't care. But it's a concern because you should care that everyone thinks you're dead or on drugs and that's how they've controlled you in the past and got you in the conservatorship first of all.

And I'm just concerned because it's gotten worse since the post-conservatorship supposedly been over with. Yeah, absolutely. And it hasn't gotten better. And like you would just expect she got married. Okay, if Sam was genuine and this whole thing was genuine, it just would not look this way. Right. You know, like... It's like a circus. Yeah, it's... Like a freak show almost. What fruit are you, you know, the fruits of your labor? You know, it's just like...

To me, it's hard to watch and concerning. It's brutal. But I don't point the blame at Britney 100%, because I do know that there's a lot of other things at play that influence it. Absolutely.

Well, I think what you guys are doing is admirable because it's pretty much you guys against the world. It feels that way. You have a lot of fans, though. You have a lot of people who really support you. No, 100%. When they found out on TikTok that you were coming on the podcast, I mean, there was just so many people who were like... I've had so many people like, when are you going to do Bonnie's podcast?

How do they even know I was going to do it? Well, I mistakenly left a comment somewhere. I forget what it was, but they were like, Jason needs to come on the podcast. I was like, he is. And oh man, they went. That must've been because I started getting inboxes and they're like, when you know Bunny's podcast? Like a lot of people, like, like she didn't speak about it, but she had a dream.

about Brittany before I even told her my connection to Brittany. When I first met her, she didn't even know who I was. I never told her. Like I knew her for like a year or two and she didn't even know who I was. And she didn't even keep up with Brittany, but she had this, she told me later on that she had this dream and that's why they came to the gym that day. And then like,

We met in the hot tub, and then she prayed for me and a lot of stuff. I was going through that separation. That's hot, praying in the hot tub. I know. I like that. I was like, I don't want to go to the gym today, but I felt something that I should that morning. I was like, okay, whatever. Then I'm just sitting out there, and I see him. I looked over, and I thought...

That guy's like, you know, you don't see many men like that, like where I could look in his eyes and tell he was discerning and he wasn't like, you know, you could be, there could be hot guys, but they're just like bad personalities. Yeah. But I could, he was different. I grew up in Vegas. Trust me. There's a lot of hot dudes with no souls. Yeah. You know, exactly. You got a lot of, they don't have substance. Yeah. Yeah.

and I saw his tattoo, and it was weird, like, I get dreams and, and visions of things before they happen sometimes, and I've never, I hadn't had any in the entertainment industry, and that night before I met him, I did have one, and it was about Britney being trapped, and I didn't even follow any of that, I wasn't, like, a fan, I liked her music, and, um,

So then I see his tattoo, so I just, we start talking about Hollywood and I'm like, well, yeah, it's kind of weird. I had this dream about Britney Spears and I never get things like that. And we talked more about it and he never told me who he was at all. - He's like, yeah, let me not tell her. - I'm like, what are the odds that I have a dream? - I was never like that. - And I didn't even know she was married before. Like he's 10 years older than me. So I just didn't follow that when it came out. - When did you guys end up getting married?

in march this year okay so march of 2023 yeah will you guys play a newlywed game with me in a little bit i think it would be cute cute little ending to this podcast yeah what's married yeah for sure what is married life like now like are you happy like you guys made this decision took the plunge like talk to me about that because first year of marriage was brutal for jelly and i i don't

I don't know how we made it to seven. Wow. You know what? Um, God is good. Yeah. And I think we like together with putting that first and like submitting to that, like everything else kind of falls second. But, um,

For me, it's all new because like I said, I've never had someone that's so compassionate and spiritual and understanding as her. Soft. Soft and just can communicate really well. And so like that's super refreshing. And then... Communication is huge in relationships. People don't realize that, but it is. Exactly. And like I said, like I'm kind of like...

I forget easy, you know, and I'm always like happy and stuff. So like in a lot of my older, my ex and stuff, we had these really like horrible fights and different things. And I never really could understand things, but it was just, and I forget. And then it would be, and then, and then like toxic cycle, toxic cycles. And just like, so yeah,

a lot of times thinking it was me, you know, and, uh, when it probably wasn't half the time. So it takes two to tango. It does. That's why I said half the time, but you know, like then with this and the way she's been with, you know, understanding my life with Brittany and, and the, uh,

way my, you know, kind of been in the media and like how it's, it's affected me and, and my mental health a little bit, just. Yeah. It's gotta be heavy. Social anxiety type stuff and like picking up on people judging me and, and that kind of like hurts. So sometimes you, you know, so that's been good. And then, um, yeah, we both have a lot in common, you know? So like, she's super artistic and she paints and she writes music and like, uh,

different sorry you're good um imagine that but uh is it a private number calling no oh i was gonna say that would answer it 100 would answer that would have been brilliant yeah so i mean what do you love about him rebecca he's he said nothing but wonderful things about you what do you let's give a rundown of him

No, I'm like, it's pretty neat how it happened. Like, just as his friend, I never would have thought about that. Just because, I don't know, I just never would have thought about that. It was strictly friendship. Like, there was never a thought of intimacy in that kind of way. When he came on to me, I was like, oh, shit, like, what are you doing? And then he was like, okay. And I'm like, no, no.

You're like, no, no, no, please don't. No, no, no. Come here. I love that. Well, let's play a newlywed game. I'm going to ask you guys five questions. Mimi has a marker and some paper. What should we wager that you guys are going to win? If whoever wins, you guys need to think of something that the other one has to do. Um, it could be sexual. It could be whatever. I'm going to run and go pee real quick. So you guys think about that and we'll,

be right back once I, so we were just talking cause we just had a, it's, this has been a two hour, uh, podcast and I had to pee. My eyes were floating, but Jason was just, uh, filling me in on your writing a book. Yeah. I've been writing a book like in the last six months. It's taken some time, but, um,

I'm calling it Out of the Rabbit Hole. It's kind of Alice in Wonderland-based, like, themed or whatever. And, you know, we did the chapters kind of cool, and she's doing all the artwork and helping me write it. But it's basically encapsulating this conversation and more. You know, it's going to go into more detail later.

Is it going to be reality or is it going to be fiction? It's going to be reality because everything in it is true. And, you know, it's going to talk about...

me and my fatherhood. Right. And just, cause from like, for me being a dad was really a great experience. Like, cause I was there for the whole process all the way up until, you know, a couple of years ago. And I never talk about kids unless people want to talk about them because I just feel like everything. Well, I try, well, just because of the situation currently, I try to stay away from it. But, um, either way, like,

It was awesome. And I, and I was nervous. And what I say is, it's like, it comes natural. Like, especially if you are in it to win it and you want to be a dad and it's like, it just comes natural, you know? And it's like, that process was really cool. So I really look forward to that again, you know, in the future. Are you guys going to have babies?

Yeah, we're going to have babies. I'm going to have probably three and then adopt two. Yeah, that's her idea. But I was like, I don't know if I want to have, can we get a surrogate? Listen, I'm all for surrogates. Yeah, we talked about that too. I was like, well, then I'm going to have to implant the seed because I'm not doing artificial insemination. I don't think that's how it works.

He's like, you know, just saying. I was just joking with her. So when do you think this book will be coming out? You know, I'm not sure, but I know I was trying to kind of make it happen around the same time Britney's came out, you know, just kind of. Do you think it's really her writing this book? No, but.

You know, it's still, you know, kind of. And another thing I didn't talk about was like, I read her mom's book and her sister's book a little bit, writing this book. And her mom mentioned me in her book and I was really upset with what she said. Just like talking about how she would never like,

be okay with Brittany marrying me. She said it would be a curse on any of our daughters if Jason married them. But didn't her daughter get pregnant by like some weird creepy old dude? I was thinking that was nice to you, Lynn. Yeah, it was the first time I'd ever heard it because the book's old, you know, it was written a decade ago or something, I think, or something like that. Yeah, in like 2002. I never read it, but until recently writing my book and, uh,

I was like, wow, that really hurts my feelings, you know. She would say it because she always loved me growing up. It sounds to me like they don't really have any loyalty. They don't even have loyalty to each other. So why would they have loyalty to you? It's very shady and unfortunate. I guess that's what Catholics do. Are her and her dad still married, Jamie and Jamie?

You know what? They've been split up since Brittany was a kid, but they maintain this weird image that they were married. So no one really knows. I think now that the dad lives with the daughter, with Jamie Lynn. Yeah, so... Weird. Yeah, it's a complicated situation. He hasn't been doing well health-wise. He's a druggie too. Oh, wow. I didn't know that.

alcohol is a drug, but he's, you know, I've heard rumors, you know, recent rumors within the last couple of years that, you know, dibbling, dabbling with some,

But it's terrible. That's why I say everyone needs to be drug tested. What's this? See your drug screen, Kate. And I mean, Sam and whoever, whoever's around, like even, even K-Fed, you're getting this 40,000 a month. And the kids getting any money, putting a trust or he's taking care of them instead of like, we're talking about Brittany doing math. Let's see your piss. You know, and I heard his wife's got a huge gambling problem.

And they get like 40 racks a month. What's crazy about that is when he released that footage trying to make Brittany look bad, like that was Brittany being a mom. Oh, it was horrible. You should hear how I talked to Bailey when she pisses me off. It shows character and it shows how of a douchebag he is. Yeah. I heard they're moving to Hawaii to try to continue the... Yeah.

I mean the child support for another like six years or something because it's 23 in Hawaii versus 18. Wow. So yeah, it's, and there's some stipulations that go with that. I heard. I'm sure they had to have signed something, signed something ironclad whenever they had those babies. Yeah, exactly. Well he, he, yeah, he, he's a, he's a dirtbag. So he made sure he,

God, Brittany is crazy. He looks like a vacuum salesman. Yeah. Did you ever see her? What was that? Chaotic or whatever? Did you see the one where he was at McDonald's? Like, really? Like, why? Like, he was cute back in the day, but now he didn't age well. He let himself go. And, you know, I...

All that child support he's collecting. He's like, fuck it. What do I got? Who do I have to impress anymore? I feel really bad for the kids. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. I didn't want to talk about her kids, you know, because...

It's just... It's already such a touchy subject, but at the same time, it's like... They're the... Those little boys don't know what's going on. They're being controlled, too. Yeah, they're being used. Yeah, they're the ones that are being, you know, hurt the most. Absolutely. And... And you can tell all Brittany's ever wanted was to be a mom to them. Yeah, it's sitting...

And that, yeah, I think she should be talking to him and seeing him. No one should be getting in the middle of that. I don't like that. I don't care what a person's going through. Yeah. Just like me. Like, I don't care what you think or what it's like. I want and I'm willing to be a father. I should be able to see my son, but babies need their parents, mother and father, whether you guys get along personally or not, those babies need to feel each, each parent's energy in order to grow up, to be the best humans that they can be.

And I don't know why the court isn't involved more in that area, trying to patch that up, make stipulations where they... Well, everybody's getting paid off. Yeah, exactly. So that's really... Well, let's play a newlywed game. Let's see how well you newlyweds know each other.

I didn't pick that because, you know, Haley told me that you guys were super spiritual, so I didn't pick raunchy questions. Oh, that's cool. I appreciate that. But we're not really like... I just want to be respectful. We're not condemning or judgmental or like, you heard us talk, so it's like... No, I get it. I just wanted to be respectful. That's cool. That's fun. Yeah. My husband's calling. Should I FaceTime him? Yes. Let's see. You guys can say hi to him. I couldn't think of anything. If he'll answer, he... What is that? Jelly! Jelly!

What's up? Hey, my name's Jason too. Let's smoke a joint, man. I know. Hi, baby. I'm finishing up the pod right now, so I'll call you whenever I get done. Okay. I love you so much.

That's so awesome. Yeah, he always does stuff like that. Wow. Yeah, he's amazing. He does so much stuff that doesn't get media, you know? No, they don't want to. That's why when people come for him, I'm like, oh, my husband's nice, but I'm not. There you go. I'm always defending him. That's right. All right, let's see. Okay, so...

Did you guys figure out what the prize is going to be? Did we figure it out? I was trying to think of it because it's like he already makes me coffee every morning and cooks me breakfast every morning and everything else is always fucking good. Do you ladies hear this? He's not. My husband, honey, if you're listening to this, which I doubt you are. Sorry, Julie.

I think my husband's cooked me breakfast. Never. Oh, wait, no. Maybe one time in seven years. That's amazing. All right. What do you want? What do you want? We'll come back. I just told her back rubs for a week. She wants a blowjob. He wants blowjobs for a week. I'll just say it for him. Okay. Let's make it more fun. Blowjobs for a week. And then what do you want? What would you want? Anything in the world. Not breakfast, not coffee. It could be anything. It doesn't have to be monetary. Okay.

We can go instead of three times a day. Let's go four times a day. Oh, there we go. All right. That sounds good. I mean, everybody's a fucking winner all around. That's right. Can I come? No, I'm just kidding. All right. Let's see.

when you guys are going to write your own answers on the paper. So kind of turn them away so you guys can't see each other. Yeah, you guys can't see each other's answers. She's going to say the question. And then when you're done, put it upside down so you can't see it. And then we'll go to the next one. And then we'll read them all together. And you guys will lift them at the same time. Sorry, I forgot to tell you guys the rules. I just assumed everybody knows how to play fucking newlyweds. Yeah, well, I don't know. But she always beats me at chess, too. Yeah.

Chess. She got a smart chick over there. And I was like a third grade chess champion. Look at you. I was like so random. Dude, that's amazing. I beat her a couple of times, but she always wins. That's amazing. All right. Who would you cast to play your spouse in a movie? I don't even know, Hollywood. Just whoever. Does it be anybody? It could be anybody. All right. I'll just say this. Just because it's funny.

All right, and then turn it upside down. I can't think of it. I spelled it wrong. No peeking. Wait, and I have to guess what he thought. So, yeah, all these questions are what you think each other would say. I know, I don't know. I'm like trying to think of girl actresses. Fuck. You guys ready for the next one? Okay, yeah. All right, what is your spouse's most irritating habit? I love his voice. Oh, my God. I just know. He's over there just grinning.

That one was easy for me. You're okay. We'll figure it out whenever we, whenever we're, it's kind of confusing. I got confused for a second too. Who will your partner say led a more wild life before you got together? It was definitely me. What is your spouse's most prized possession?

That's hilarious. I'm paying you to put this thing in. You guys both ready? Okay. What is your favorite part of your spouse's body? Hmm. He said, hmm. I gotta do it, I guess. Typical guy. Tits and ass. Bingo. That's hilarious. You said it. Who is your spouse's celebrity crush? All right. Celebrity crush. Hmm.

do i have one of those or what hers would you rather have the lights on or the lights off you're answering for her though if i were to bring food into the bedroom for foreplay what food would i bring i said i wasn't going to do dirty questions yeah i found ones that weren't too explicit though what is your partner's bedroom fantasy

She's really thinking about these. Oh my God. Now I got to go back and remember what questions I asked. Shit balls. I'm the worst game show host ever. I am the worst game show host ever. Okay. So we'll start, we'll start with the ones you just did so that I can go back and find the other ones. Okay. All right. So, um,

Jason, what is Rebecca's bedroom fantasy? What do you think it is? Where are we pointing at? That camera? Yeah. I said all day sex. I don't know. What would it be, Rebecca? I should have asked you first, damn it. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. I would say, yeah. Basically just taking over me. Dominating. Being dominated? Yeah. Okay. So does that pass, though, for all day sex? Yeah.

Yeah, we got to answer first and then... Yeah, I fucked this up. Listen, you guys, I'm the worst fucking game host ever. All right, what's your fantasy, Jason? We'll give it to you since I fucked that up. What is your fantasy? And then she's going to pull her paper up and tell us. We like... Our sex is fantasy every time, so I don't really have one. I guess it would be like...

After like making a million dollars sex? I don't know. After... Whomp whomp. Green sex. No. What did you say, Rebecca? Oh, I just said like dominate me entirely. I said all day sex. Okay, so we'll start with you, Rebecca. If you were to bring food into the bedroom for some foreplay, what would you want him to bring? What do you think he would say you would bring? Like ice cream or something? Cold? Cold.

What did you say? I said whipped cream and fruit. Okay, so it's one and one right now. All right. And then what would you bring in as food, Jason? That's what I would bring. Whipped cream and fruit? What did you say? What I would do. I'm just kidding.

You guys wrote down what each other would do. All right, it's still one and one. I love that you remember. Thank you for being the best game show host ever, Jason. Yeah, I put on, obviously. Well, what would you do, Rebecca? Would you put them on or off? On. Okay, yay. You got that? Okay, so it's two and one. And then what would you do, Jason? On, for sure. On, and what'd you say? Yeah, no lights off, ever. On. Yay. Yeah, 100%. All right, so that's, are you keeping score? Okay, because I am lost.

Oh, I mean, this one was a celebrity crush, I think. Okay. Who do you think is her celebrity crush? I wrote me just because I... You got to let her answer. Okay. And then who do you think is his celebrity crush? Tell me before... Who's your celebrity crush, Jason, before she answers us?

I really don't have one. My celebrity crush was Orlando Bloom. Was it? Sorry. That's good. They kind of look alike. I like Orlando Bloom. Yeah, they kind of look alike. Yeah. Or Brad Pitt. So you don't have one? Is that your final answer? Yeah, I don't have one. Okay. I guess I thought about that, but yeah. What do you think is his favorite body part on you?

My boobies. And what'd you say, Jason? Tits and ass. Yay! And eyes. So he got that one. Eyes. That's sweet, though. He put in eyes. He included eyes with tits and ass. That's very sweet. What do you think she thinks your favorite body part is? Or her favorite body part on you? Or whatever. You guys know what the fuck I'm saying. This is why I host podcasts, not games. I think it's...

The wiener schnitzel? Honestly, right? I mean, she... My dick. What'd you put? Abs. My ass, butt, and dick. Oh, good. You guys both won that one. All right, do we know what the next one is? I can't remember what it was. Best thing about being married. About the partner. About being with... Best thing about being with each other, maybe. Okay. I don't know. I wrote six, though. I did, too!

They both had the same answer. All right. What do you think this one is? This one's what is most important to your spouse. Okay. What's what? Okay. So let's start with you. What do you think she's going to say is most important to you? She's going to write it down right now. Well, I know I wrote for her, but for me, what I think she's going to write, just like healthy lifestyle.

Like being in health, like fitness? I don't know. I don't know why I wrote this. I wrote keys? Keys?

Keys. Because it was like, wasn't it like... What's your most prized possession? Oh, okay. Most prized possession. And I was thinking our Jeep. Like, just the Jeep. Oh, wow. So, keys. That's funny. You guys both won. How about that? I'll put her face. Aw, I love that. Wow, that's so nice. That is sweet. All right. Well, since I fucked that question up, you guys both get that one. Sorry, guys at home. Listen, I am not a game show host. All right. Next question. What do we think is the next question? What is your pet peeve about...

What irritates you the most about your spouse? Okay. What, what about you, Rebecca? Oh, when he does his thing, like when he sucks his teeth. So what'd you write Jason? I wrote, she asked a million questions. And then what did you write Rebecca? Uh,

She's like, let me guess. I don't know. That's what I wrote with like the... Oh, the sucks your... Because we were writing what we thought... Sucks your teeth. Yeah, exactly. So I wrote... She asked... My pet peeve about her, she asked me so many questions. Sometimes it bothers me, but... That's what I think. That's a girl thing. Yeah, but it's... I think that all girls do that. Yeah, it's not bad, though.

And then can we guess what the last question was? Because I suck over here. Oh, who would play the person? Okay, okay. Who would play your spouse in a movie? Yeah. What do you think he said who would play you, Rebecca? I don't even know. I just wrote somebody funny because...

Who'd you write? Jessica Alba. I was going to say that. Jessica Alba's hot. I was going to say. She's hot. I was like, plus it's JT's wife, ain't it? Right. No, that's Jessica. No, that's Jessica Biel. Either way. You got to get it right. I got to get it to you. Who do you think she wrote would play you? Brad Pitt. Yeah. Is that what she said? Yeah. Oh, got it. Yay.

All right. You guys, that was the worst game of newly whatever, because I don't know what I'm doing over here, but who won? It was fun. You guys got a tie. So now you get to get, you get blowjobs for a week and she gets laid four times a day. Damn girl. I mean, that's a, it's a winning, winning situation. We gotta go.

gotta get to work i love that you guys are so sweet thank you guys for coming on the podcast it was a blast i really appreciate you guys do you guys want to shout out where people can find you is there anything you want to plug socials all that jazz i mean my instagram is is just jason allen alexander you could find this easy but that's the best way to find me i guess yeah what about you rebecca you want to plug anything

Nope. She's like, nope, everybody leave me alone. Maybe soon, but right now it's just... Well, when you guys have anything you want to plug, you're more than welcome to come back on the podcast anytime. I would love to have you guys. That's cool. Yeah. Thank you guys so much. And thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.