EP.155 - MATTHEW PERRY CONSPIRACY, MICHAEL JACKSON NEVERLAND THEORY & LIGHTS OFF PARANORMAL GAME 01:19:03

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Check, check. The time you try to start the podcast is like...

You're like, how was your day or something? That was the first time. This is an early podcast. No, that was the first one. That was the first one? I'm like, shut the fuck up. The first time. Talk to me normal, bro. You look me dead in the eye and you're like, no, we're not doing that.

From then on, fam, I actually, I don't think like even in real life, I ask you like, yo, how's your day? If you have to ask your homie, how's your day? Yo. Oh, I don't want to expose, bro. But fam, this is probably the worst slide I ever see. Oh my God.

He's gonna be so embarrassed because I know he's watching. So this guy DM'd the girl and he was asking me at first, he's like, "Bro bro bro, can you help? I don't know what to say, I don't know what to say." The DM he's replying to is "Hi smiley face." So he could really say whatever he wants. Bro can say whatever he wants. I'm like, "Bro, just say what you want. I don't know what you want." It's like asking what you want to eat. I don't know what you want to eat. There's so much food in the world. Facts.

Bro couldn't reply. It's a high smiley face. What do you mean? So I just left it. And he comes back. I'm like, yo, bro. So I DM'd her. Like, what did you DM her? He goes, I said, how was your weekend? Okay, that's...

That's not bad. You know, that's not bad. That's pretty bad. No, because it's pretty good because it extends the convo. No, but I'm open in perspective. What were you going to do? No, I'm open in perspective. Okay. If my homie said, how was your weekend at DMZ? I'm not even replying. Yeah, that's real. Feel me? Let alone, let alone somebody that's trying to get at you.

How was your weekend? Are you crazy? Are you crazy? Because it's not that bad. It's not that bad as you perceive it, fam. Because it's like, it will like, with the homies, yeah, you're not responding to it. But fam, with a girl, it's a good conversation. Like, oh, maybe you did something cool on the weekend. Maybe true. Maybe true.

After high, yeah, that's a pretty good response actually. Yeah. Maybe I'm tripping. Leave in the comments if I'm tripping. You would immediately go like, oh, it's that nudes. No. I'm not like that. I'm not like that. I would just think of whatever's on top of my head. Oh, and that one party, I knew I had motion. This is so funny. Yeah. Because there was one girl that came up to me and we were talking for a bit, right? Mm-hmm.

And then at the end of the convo, she was like, oh, add me on Instagram. You're pretty cool. I'm like, okay, bad. I'm going to give her my Instagram. I get her phone. I type my name in. Yeah. And all you see is following Gavin already. I'm like, ah!

Oh she follows you, yeah. But she didn't know you then. No, I was like, wait, you're following me? And she's like, oh I am? What the hell? So she probably knew my social media presence, but maybe she didn't know it was me. Oh, so she didn't know you in person. Yeah. I felt so gassed though, because that's never happened. Like, when I type in, it's already following, that's kind of crazy. There was another case like that. That's really crazy, but there's another case like that. It wasn't me. But it's embarrassing as fuck. My boy told me he was with this girl.

It's so cringe. And this girl shows up, comes up to him and goes, "Yo, tell me why this guy asked me for my Instagram." And when I put my Instagram in his phone, it's already searched up. And it's already the first one. That's worse. No. That's why you always have to delete it. But it wasn't following. It's just like searched up. Yeah.

No, low-key, I did that with the club promoter we did because I was searching him before. Like, who am I going to meet tonight? And then he's like, oh, yeah, let me put my name on the Instagram. And then before he took my phone, I kind of went like this and I X'd out the name and then gave up. Bro, at this point, let's not pretend, man. Let's just be honest with each other type of thing. Facts, facts. Bro, I feel like the more honest people are, the less like it's...

Because what's the worst thing that happens? Let's say somebody does something embarrassing. I'm not going to knock on nobody. I guess it's jokes for a one-two time. No, you know what?

I think it's because some things turn into like a joke and it becomes like a reoccurring joke because there's some man's like for example our boy PJ yeah so that one time we went to Wild Wings and he had two he had two chicken wings he had two chicken wings and like like five fries and bro said leave down in the comments if this is valid bro said can I get a box for this?

No, it was like half a chicken wing and like a bunch of fries. Shout out PJ though. Shout out PJ. I love you, bro. But the thing is, I think we exaggerated the joke. So it became such a joke. But now it's like...

He obviously has to laugh with it, but it gets tiresome. I'm not going to lie. It gets tiresome. It probably hits him. No, but it's such a good joke that it always works. That's why he's probably annoyed. I know. That's the thing. And something I also learned, like, through my, the social media shit, is, like, if I've seen a person, like, at a party. Mm-hmm.

And they come up to me and hug me. And, like, the first thing they say is, oh, yo, bro, why'd you unfollow me? And I'm like, that's not personal. It's just, like, I really just don't care about, like, the people I follow. Maybe it was an accident. Maybe it was a thing. But, yo, he, like, he made it like it was, like, some big thing. He's like, yo, bro, you don't rate me no more. You're going Hollywood. Like, no, bro, I probably just, like, don't care. No, but to be honest, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Okay. But, like...

unfollowing someone nowadays is kind of crazy. I know, but like, why though? I agree with you. I agree with you, but it is what it is. I guess. It is what it is though. I'm not going to lie. Like, as much as we shouldn't put these like standards to things, it kind of becomes that and then when the majority calls it what it is,

It's tough to change it. It's tough to change it because those are the rules we kind of play by. That's true. And it's sad. It's fucked. It's fucked. But that's how it is. It pissed me off because he was just paging me and he was being rude to me, right? Yeah. So I don't know if you saw my spam, but

Me, Hayden, and Jaden ran the craziest side mission, right? So at that party, when I came in, they were already giving us attitude and stuff. So we were like, okay, the party is dead. Like, it's whack. I paid $40. I mean, like, maybe like $20 for an Uber there. And I'm like, okay, there's food involved, right? So all of us were like, okay, since we don't know that guy that well,

let's just take all their food like all the pizza that they have at the party and go back to the screen so what we did i was the distraction uh hayden was a runner and jaden was a runner too right oh my god these guys so listen we were so bored like that's how you know it was boring yeah yeah so we come in and it was super dead but myself

All you see me, I go in the middle and start turning up and everybody just circle came. And the food is over there, right? So everyone's just looking at the middle. So I'm in the middle like this, right? All you see in the corner, Jayden putting the pizza box in his pants. What the fuck? How does it even work? That's how this shit fit. And my other boy, he grabbed all the juice and then we ran out, right? It fit in his pants? 40 waist, bro. What the fuck?

That's what I'm saying. And then fam, it got so serious. They called security. So six security guards were outside like looking for us, looking for us. Right. And then we called the Uber and we got out of there. Damn. What the fuck? But yo, it was so funny because you know, like the half steppers, like people, people think like, um, if you're, if you're really like about that life, you would just go. Right. Yeah. Fam, it was just pizza. Right. And,

My boy was tripping like what do you mean? You didn't want to get into uber. He's like guys. I think we should return it I think I'm like bro. Let's go conscience is the conscience though, but fam imagine six security guards are pointing at you Oh word and we're about that's what it was like they're trying to like get you in trouble already No, no, it wasn't yeah, it kind of wasn't like that, but it was just like oh, yeah, you guys can't come in no more But like oh, but my boy started banging. He was like guys guys. Oh

I think we should go back. I'm like, yo, first of all, we just ran this crazy heist not to go back and eat pizza. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Damn bro! You guys wanna do that? We were bored. Super bored. Like imagine the most dead party. You're like, "Okay boys, how can we make this fun?" Yeah, it's true. It's true. It's one of those like, you're at recess and you get to make up games. Exactly. That's exactly what it was. That's true. I feel like low-key, when you get a population of people in a spot that's super, super boring. For example, the city we were from, it's on the outskirts of Toronto. Yeah.

There's nothing to do there. But I feel like the reason so many creative people come out of there is because you have to make your fun. And if you don't make your fun, then you're just bored. Or you're just not doing nothing. So you got to build some shit. Because that's why the kids in poverty, they always have the most craziest inventions. And that's why... Yo, there was this guy. He came up with...

a renewable resource like i think it was like a a a revolutionary way to make plastic into oil oh so bro was turning like sprite bottles and like water bottles into oil and he's posting on tick tock okay it's going viral and it was working he was running an engine off of this but what happened like everybody started commenting like yo the fbi they're after you they're after you after you

And it went viral. And what happened? Shut down. He just stopped posting. He's just not there no more. No way. Yeah. And everybody that comments are like, oh, yo, you're going to go missing. You're going to go missing. You're creating a solution for the thing that they're making bread off. Yeah. And he's just not there no more. See, sometimes shit like that is like...

If you have a crazy invention or even a cure for cancer, you're not putting that shit on TikTok, bro. Because everyone will flood it and that will be on everyone's algorithm by the next day. True. You know what I mean? Yeah. So sometimes you got to really be careful of what you're posting. Do you think TikTok's different now? Do you think TikTok's different in the sense of what goes viral is almost the same?

Because before, let's be real, before, sometimes you see shit on TikTok that goes viral and it's not even in your interests. It's just viral to be viral. Kind of. You get me? Yeah. Like, for example, what's a great example? Like, Bella Portia, for example, doing this. They don't do that no more. It's not really our interest, but it going viral because it's going viral. And there's other people that do, like, weird stuff with...

I don't know, like fruits. Like I bought hella fruits or some shit and went viral. It's not in my interest. It just went viral. Do you think TikTok doesn't do that anymore or does it still do that for you? Because it doesn't for me. Yeah, I kind of see the same shit because it's like my algorithm is so compact now. Like I'm pretty sure they collected so much data. Oh, you think that's why? Yeah, repetitive shit. You know what Gary Vee said? What would he say? Gary Vee said, yo, I hope somebody does this. If you think about it, imagine there's like another platform

Like TikTok. Same type of layout. But there's a video of the week. Or there's a TikTok of the week. Or even TikTok of the day. Oh, like a highlight. So no matter what, this...

one clip will be seen by the whole TikTok. Oh, that's fucked. Like, every single user, it will be the first one they see. That's fucked. So everybody would be fighting for that one spot because literally the whole world would see it. So there's going to be hella content just out trying to get the number one spot. Trying to get the number one spot. But probably, like, if that was developed, it would be shit content then. You think? Why? I don't know. It would just be like those, you know, like the YouTube shorts? Mm.

Oh, like the basic YouTube short video that everyone makes is like, oh, pop a balloon. Is it red or is it blue? That's going to be that kind of shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Like the YouTube short video. It's such a term that if you know, you know. Fuck, you're right. That's such a thing. But I guess it is different viral-wise. But back then, if you really bag it, if you were viral, you were on Ellen the next day. Yo, that's true. Damn, Daniel. Daniel.

Was a viral on vine and he was on Ellen. Yo, you know what? Um out, you know remember Alex from Target? Yeah, yeah He was on Ellen right after and they and all these kids that were musicians and they're viral on YouTube. I'm 11 mil We're not on Ellen fam. No, you know why why it's because there's no more TV. Nobody watch. Okay. Yeah, you're so first off There's no more of that. Yo, why don't they just make a Ellen type of show? I

for today's media, so like Twitch or YouTube. Somebody's gonna do that. - Probably, there probably is already something out. - No, there's nobody. - Like complex. - No.

There's no, like, interview that... Complex and OGM. Viral of the week. Oh, no, not really viral of the week. Nah. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, that's what I'm saying. We should just start that shit, man. Yo, that's opportunity right there. A lot, yeah. Because it's just like a talk show, like what Ellen was, but it's viral of the week. Like, whoever is the most popular of the week. Damn, that would work, actually. Facts. Because I feel like this day or this era, there's no...

It's like everybody can go viral, but it doesn't mean as much. I think because it doesn't... Like everyone can do it. Now it doesn't mean as much. Yeah bro. So let's take it a step forward. What would mean more now? If this was like the epitome of dopamine for you. To reach that level of like, oh now I'm viral and then people know me. What's better than that since it's easier? Because I always thought like, even though you have a million followers...

And you can put on your Instagram, come meet me at this place at this time and people show up. That's how you know you have real emotion. But like, remember that there was some girl that like, I think it was TwitchCon where she even made bracelets for everyone. Right. And then she had a line. I think she had 1 million followers on TikTok. No one in the line. She was just there with her, with her bracelets. And I felt so bad. I'm like, damn, like,

It doesn't really translate nowadays. Well, where do they post the thing on? On TikTok? Yeah, no. Instagram, TikTok, even posting on everywhere. Yeah. Just if you can have people come out to something, that's real emotion. I think because the way TikTok is, the followers don't always see the content. Yeah. Every single time. So until TikTok changes it to that, then you're going to see that type of pull. Yeah. I don't think that's going to be the thing. I have a theory that...

This is probably going to happen. I swear to God it's going to happen. TikTok's going to make their platform like YouTube. Like YouTube? I have a theory about that, fam. Because think about it. The main platform still is YouTube where it lives off. Yeah. And they have short form and they have long form. TikTok is only...

Short form. So for them to upgrade, to do what YouTube did and add short form, TikTok would add long form. I don't know though because TikTok is like, I go on TikTok because I know I'm going to see a seven second video and I'm going to scroll up again. YouTube, I go for more long content because I don't go to YouTube for shorts.

I never do that. No, but you get sucked in. No, never. I'm not there for shorts and going like this. No, no, no. If I wanted a short, I would go to TikTok because that's like home. If you watch a short, you got sucked into shorts. Like one or two, maybe. No, fam. Let's not lie here, fam. I promise you. Let's not lie here. You know, like the user interface, it doesn't feel like home. You know what I mean? When you're on TikTok, the user interface is so like...

Hold me to you. It's all the same shit. It is. It is. That's why not a lot of people move to Kik because the user interface doesn't resemble Twitch's that much. Yes, it does. It looks the exact same. No, no. Oh, no, no. Rumble I'm talking about. Rumble. Oh, Rumble. Rumble. Yeah, yeah. My fault. My fault. True. Because Aiden said, Aiden said specifically, he's like, I'm not going to sign to you guys because you guys have one thing that everyone else doesn't have. Yeah. Your page looks like shit. You know what I mean? That's what attracts people. I guess so. I guess so. But it's getting up there. YouTube shorts is getting up there.

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I feel like, yo, you know what I bagged? How come there's never, back in the day, when there was like a scientific fucking discovery, we would hear about it everywhere. It could be on the news and shit. Do we ever hear that on social media? Rarely.

Yeah, it spreads. Barely, bro! What's the last scientific discovery we've seen? Okay, never mind. Maybe not a scientific discovery. That's what I'm saying! But back in the day, how many times were they like, "Oh yo, we found a cure for this." "Oh yo, we found the fossils for this species." "Oh yo, this is going extinct." We never hear about that shit anymore.

Especially when it comes down to science, biology, or even history. Because that's just boring, Loki. No, bro. I have a theory about Bukti's. I think it's because...

There's so much shit that's important that they're discovering. They're trying to flood the news with other bullshit. So we don't hear the important stuff. Which is, I kind of like that though, because it's like the alien shit. I would rather not see, oh shit, aliens are coming on social media. Like if I woke up and I'm like, oh fuck. Like just keep it with the bullshit. Like they're low-key doing us a favor, fam. No, but think about it. Like...

We're literally one... Think about it like this. Yeah. They're one discovery away from being like, oh shit, we're wrong about everything. We're wrong about how humans came to be. We're wrong about what the earth is. Because, fam, these are all still mysteries. Yeah. We haven't, like, solved nothing. If you're really bad, we haven't really solved shit. We're still worrying about the same problems they've been worrying about back in, like, before Christ. Yeah.

but that just never gets aired though they're doing the same conflicts or if it is aired usually it has that that I thing that comes up and it's like sensitive content or like maybe false content you know what I mean but it's so crazy nowadays because it's like the thing that will get posted right away celebrity celebrity deaths yeah yeah yeah I mean

You'll know as soon as they die. That's why the theory is like celebrity deaths are always cover-ups. Or they drop it when something else is happening in the news. Exactly. My bad. Are you going to say the same shit? What are you going to talk about? The Matthew Perry death. Oh, what's the theory on that? You don't know about it? Nah, nah. Okay, RIP Matthew Perry. But there's a lot of things that I found that I wanted to show you, right? So there are a lot of theories saying that his whole death was actually planned.

right yeah so you go on his instagram i don't know if you've seen it but he hasn't posted for like bare months right but just recently in the last two months he starts posting shit like this what's this so like random videos so it's just watching the batman it shows batman hold on yeah and then it's like he goes to the corner it's just random ass videos no he's watching batman no no no trust me trust me hold on let me skip forward

And he goes to the ceiling, shows the bat symbol. Okay. So usually in the cartoons, what does a bat symbol symbolize? Something's in danger or someone needs help. Yeah, like a bat signal. Exactly. So again, two days after, he posts another picture of a bat symbol in the pool. And he says, sleep well, everybody. I've got the city tonight, Batman. Right? So it's just random. Two days after, he posts another picture.

Batman plays pickleball. So everyone's like, what the fuck? Is that an indicator? Because the day that he died earlier on the day, he was playing pickleball. So was that indicator like, oh, once I play, once the day I play pickleball, something's going to happen to me. Right? Interesting. Next video, a day after.

he drops cranberries on a desk what the fuck? that's weird that's weird that's weird stuff this is what I've eaten today I'm that man so listen yeah cranberries right there's a band out there called the cranberries right and the lead singer died by drowning

Matt Perry died in the jacuzzi because he drowned. No, that's fucked. So listen, it keeps going. Another picture two days after. A Batman in a pumpkin. Do you know what I mean?

He died close to Halloween. Is that an indicator? Was like, oh, I'm going to die close to Halloween. Now look, look, look. He posts a picture of the moon now. Yeah. Do you understand what I'm trying to tell you? I'm that man. Fam, on the day he died, there was a full moon. What the fuck? Yeah.

And now his last pose This is where he gets fucked He's in the jacuzzi On his last pose Yeah yeah yeah He says Oh so warm water Swilling around Makes you feel good I'm that man Right

He drowned in that jacuzzi. No. Damn. What the fuck? So obviously, I don't want to say... Because it's a death, so it's... Yeah, we don't know for sure. We don't know for sure, but it is interesting. It's weird. And look, so this is where it gets crazy. Matt Perry wrote a book, right? Yeah. And it's crazy because the last two lines of his book say this. So...

It says, "Someday, you too might be called upon you to do something important. So be ready for it. So whenever happens, just think, 'What would Batman do?' and do that."

So it's like, and he teased the Batman shit every day. Wait, why Batman though? He didn't even play Batman. Yeah, I know. But it's like, it's just a thing. And I guess in his book, he said, if you guys ever see me doing the Bat logo, I'm in trouble. He said that in his book? Yeah, in his book. He like hinted at it. He's like, if you ever see the Batman logo from me, I'm in danger. Yo, that's fucked.

So that is a cry for help. I don't know what's fucked. What the fuck? No, that's scary as shit because he can't publicly say something because then it's going to go straight ahead. That's what I'm saying. That's going to fast forward it. That's what I'm saying. No, that's great. Yeah. It was like the Howie Mandel shit but this shit is actually real.

like there's no way he died yeah that's what i'm saying yeah wait why did he say why did they say he drowned how did he drown so he had a heart attack in his jacuzzi right and he he went down and oh but but i think i think everybody was saying that if he did like go underwater something would have happened where he would have jolted back and like kind of at least went up like he wouldn't have died i don't know but yeah we don't know for sure though yeah for sure but that's

But fam, the cranberries and how the lead singer died by drowning- The cranberries at the table is the most sus to me because that's not like a regular- You're not really just fucking doing that for no reason, bro. What the fuck? That's what I'm saying. It's weird. Yeah, bro. I'm telling you- And the way he was holding it too is like- And did you see the hand? It wasn't his hand. That's not his hand? It was some next hand. Look at the nails. It's long. What the hell? It's white. Go back down. Go back down. Click it again. Click it again, right. No, no. Go down to the caption. Oh.

This is what I've had to eat today. I'm Matt. Check the comments. What's the comments saying? There's going to be a conspiracy theory about the post. Does anyone find it curious why none of Friends cast has said anything on social yet? And then, yeah. Yo. Yeah, the tub was the last signal. It was like, this is where I'm going to die. That's fucked up. He gave everyone seven signals. Like, there were seven messages to cry for help and no one did shit. Seven trumpets, man. Crazy. But yeah, man. Ah.

I hate to think about that bro because that means like if you're in that type of trouble and there's no I guess because if you're in in that like sector of people you can't really control shit because everybody's everybody's in on it yeah

Like even the people that you would think are your friends, I guess they would have stuff dirt on them too. Exactly. And then they would try to hold you back from crying out for help. And you to be sacrificed type of thing would be the only way to continue life because everybody else would have to like suffer too. It's facts, bro.

Because I also have that theory on rappers now too because it's like, you know the whole like selling your soul shit? Yeah. If you don't do that, they'll either, you either, they'll kill you right away and like you probably do that madman shit to try and extend your life or they'll just put you in jail.

Because if you really bag it, look. So Tory Lanez. Tory Lanez said in one of his songs, what do you call this? The Tory Lanez one is interesting because he went independent. And right after he went independent, then all this shit started happening to him. Yeah, exactly. He was one of the first to really dip out and then make fucking a million dollars, no label. Straight off the bat. Like right off the bat. But look, this is where it gets crazy. So he says this.

Right? And then he's, it's crazy because what happened with Megan Thee Stallion, now he's in jail. And Megan Thee Stallion is signed with Roc Nation. And Tory's dad, even at the, in front of the court jail, he's like, Jay-Z, I'm talking to you. Just because my son didn't want to do that shit doesn't mean you have to put him in jail. And there was evidence too on the whole case. But who was really let free?

But I'm not gonna get into that. I'm not gonna get into that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know, I know. You know what I mean? Yeah, shit. Yeah. Do you know the Michael Jackson theory? The Michael Jackson Neverland theory? Neverland, no, no. So, you know how the whole thing with Michael Jackson, the scandal, like, he would take boys to his home and then... Oh, and there was a picture of him like this. No, not... With a boy. There was a picture of him like this? Yeah, yeah, with a baby. No, that's his baby. Oh, okay. No, no, no, but there's a theory, like...

This is like a whole scandal that Michael Jackson was taking these kids to his house Neverland and then just Neverland's kind of like an amusement park. Yeah, they would just have fun and shit sleep over at Michael Jackson's house but this what people didn't like was oh Is he doing that because he's getting like some sexual pleasure off of it? So became a whole scandal all over the news boom boom boom boom everywhere headlines news blah blah and

Guess what was happening the exact same time that was happening. What was happening? Jeffrey Epstein's Island. Oh, I think I heard of that. That was the first time Jeffrey Epstein's Island was being exposed. It was during the whole Michael Jackson Neverland scandal.

So theory was that he had to bite the bullet for the rest of Hollywood type of shit. So like, you'll put all the tension on MJ because the whole world is going to listen about that. And then they don't have to worry about the Jeffrey Epstein Island because fam, the world leaders on Jeffrey Epstein Island, let alone Michael Jackson. You know what I mean? Like, you'll take the bullet for us because all of this shit is going down right now. Because if you think about it, fam,

All of the stuff that Michael Jackson was accused of with Neverland and with like the sexual things, none of it was proven right. Like...

he was innocent. He was innocent. There's so many different trials, there's so many different things and all of the people that tried to sue him or tried to press charges, they all ended up coming out and saying, "Oh yeah, I was being bribed by my parents because they were getting a lot of money from somebody else." All saying the same shit, the same story. Like, "Oh yeah, we're getting money from people to say this."

That's how it happened. Money does rule the world still. So it's not surprising when you hear something so out of character from somebody. Maybe it's a storyline that has to play...

So you don't pay attention to another story. Yeah. Maybe that whole Matt thing was also a cover-up too. You never know. Like maybe he was part of it. And then like he also had to... He was going to come out and say something. But then boom, like they got him out of there before. Yeah, you never know. You actually never know. Yo, you know the original Pinocchio movie? Like the OG one, the cartoon one? Yeah.

They mentioned Jeffrey Epstein Island or like the idea of it. Well, yeah, with the big barber guy or no, like the big guy, the big fat guy. Nah, I don't know. Big fat guy. Like he was saying like, oh, yeah, I think he was saying like, oh, all the bad boys go to that island. Yeah, that's the one. That's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joe Rogan. I see now Joe Rogan. Yeah, let me see it again because it's actually really creepy. Check this out. Two pleasure islands.

Pleasure Island. So that's what they're talking about. In Pinocchio, they're talking about there's this place where I'm taking all the little boys. Oh, fuck no. And it's called Pleasure Island. This is in Pinocchio, fam. Listen. And look at this guy. This guy looks straight up like a Jeffrey Epstein Island freaking member, bro. Crazy. Yeah, it's in front of your face. And he looks around like, oh, the cops are here.

Yeah, that's crazy. Crazy. That's your island. Think about it. Pleasure island? Come on, man. That's so obvious. That's crazy. Yo, that's so... That's crazy. Now, check this out, right? Yeah.

You know, you know like the island boys. Oh, yeah, you know why they're called the island boys. Why? No, you didn't know Yeah, they're they're things so they kiss and shake. No. Yeah Did you know the island boys were actually on Jeffrey Epstein's Island, huh? You didn't know that no Just like there's evidence

I'm not a boy or a man. I actually don't believe that. What the fuck? You didn't know this? Like, were they the boys that were getting thing? I'm gonna show you the picture. No way, man. There's actually no way. Think about it. I'm gonna show you the picture. Okay. Let me just show you the picture. They never come back as boys.

Jeffrey Epstein and the Island Boys. Why are they called the Island Boys? Because they're on Jeffrey Epstein's Island Fam. Come on bro. Come on. That's them. Let me see. That's actually no. That's actually them. How do you know that's them though? No, no. This photo came out on TMZ. That's actually them. Crazy. I don't believe that shit. No, this is real. This is real. Fact check.

This is actually the Island Boys. I thought they were named Island Boys because they had that song. No, because they're from Jefferson Island. That's why. Think about it. They never come back as boys. That's facts. They didn't come back as boys, bro. Did you see them make it up? Crazy. No, because think about it. If... Alright, this is kind of gross, but if you think about it, the people that were visiting the island were who? Celebrities and people that were kind of famous. Yeah.

For them to call them the island boys is a reference to them visiting them? Yeah. You'd be like, oh shit, those are the boys from the island. Wait, the island boys. Feel me?

It all lines up. Let's be real. Lowkey, if we ever meet them, we have to sneak one of those. Yo, are you from Jeopardy? No, I think it is. I think it's actually fact. That's fucking crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. You know what I found out too? Speaking of our ends too. I don't know if you've ever heard of this, but there's something called the Pickering Dungeon.

Oh, I heard about this. I was trying to go. Really? I was trying to visit it. I didn't know about this, but for all you guys that didn't know, I think it was in 2010, right? A PK security guard was going around and I think it was on concession. So you know that street where it's like all dark? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Middle of nowhere, right?

They seen a BMW in front of like a farmhouse, right? So they're like, okay, this is pretty sketchy, but I'm gonna leave it, right? So I think a year after when contractors were about to break it down,

They go in there and in the garage, they see like a door, right? They open the door and leads them down to another door. So there's stairs and then another door, a second one, right? They open the second door. There's even more stairs. They go down the stairs. All you see, there's a big, like a thick door that's nailed. That's like, you can't get in unless you like ply the nails out, right? And then when you open it, there's a bench, chairs,

Chains hanging from the ceiling and a bunch of water jugs. Right? And do you know why? Why like the... Who it was for? Yo. Well, apparently it was for this guy who's like torturing...

I don't know if this is true. Okay. Because this was like the lore of the schoolyard. Okay, okay, okay. It was like torturing a student. Oh, no. That's not what I read. So it was a guy whose ex-wife's friend, they kind of broke up. She broke up kind of their relationship, which ended up in a divorce. So put the guy. So the guy was going to take his ex's wife's friend and torture her in the dungeon. Damn.

Just because he's like, oh, you broke me and my wife up? Yeah, fuck that. You're going in here. Damn, wait. Was anybody actually ever in there, though? No. Because I don't think so, right? I don't think so. But he was caught, though. Yeah, because it was just like a could have been type of thing. Yeah, yeah. Which is fucked because he had everything ready. Like he had water. I was trying to find it, bro. I was trying to find it one day because it would be sick to take a video. Is that fucked? When I was reading it, the first reaction I kind of had was like, yo, let's go in there. Like...

Because it's not haunted, right? Yeah, it's not haunted, but it's like, you know what I mean? It's kind of fucked to go in there. Do you think it would bring like a spirit if it's... I don't know. It's like... It's meant for evil?

Probably. Probably. You can... Because it manifests itself there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn, that's fucked up. Also, you know how you grew up in Scarborough? Yeah. So I also found this out too. I don't know if you went to the mall and like STC, there was like a Santa Claus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have pictures there. Oh, for real? Why? So during...

I think it was during 2010 to 2018. That Santa Claus that everyone was... That every kid was sitting on turned out to be one of like a John Wayne Gacy type killer. Wait, wait, like a serial killer? Yeah, like a serial killer. The fuck? So I sat on his lap. I don't know. I think it's... Pause. His name was...

If you have his picture, I'll show you after. Show me after. But his name was Bruce, right? And he went after, I think it was in that time span, he killed eight gay people. And it was, what do you call this? It was gay people of color. So he went out on dating apps and he said, yo, let's meet up. Killed all of them. Santa Claus. Yeah, ask Santa Claus.

And once he came out, everyone was like, what the fuck? Because he's a caring guy. He's a nice guy to everyone else. But he was living a double life. Damn. You never know who, even at Pickering Town Center, or even right now. No, because if you think about it, bro, the people that put on the costume. Ah, they're interesting people still. They are. You have to be a certain type of person to want to do that. You know what I mean? Yeah. And especially do it back to back to back to back to back to back years. Yeah.

And like you enjoy it. There's a hidden agenda, bro. There is. They get something else out of it. It's not just like for money. If you think about it, everybody that does their job, actually, not everybody, but everybody

More like interesting jobs. They do it for filling another part of them. That's not monetary It's true like even if it's like a basketball coach They probably wanted to be in the NBA at one point like they're somehow doing basketball still Yeah in a way that they can boom basketball coach they're fulfilling something else deeper that they can't really do another way and

So that's how they do it. And it could get darker and darker and darker depending on how different you are. Is that weird though? Yes. It is. Is it okay? I don't know. It depends. I guess it depends how extreme you take it. Oh no. And if you want to take it extreme, the people that work at haunted houses, they get off scaring people. That's what I'm saying. Even if you're painting someone's face or you're torturing them, that's still a kink.

at the end of the day. So it's like, yeah, those people that really do the haunted haunted ones where you're tasing people, you're tickling. Yo, that's so true. Fam, like imagine you're waterboarding someone. Why would you get a thrill out of almost killing someone? Yo. Yo, check this out, fam. Yeah. Obviously, this is not the case, but like, do you think certain people...

Oh yo, I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. Nevermind. But like, there's jobs that involve touching. Do you think they do that because it fulfills them in that way too? We would never know. We actually don't know. Like there's a, there's a, obviously there's a chance. There's also people doing this. Cause there's some sociopaths that wouldn't show through their face, man. They would, it would just be in their head the whole time. Like,

Like, I could have a whole different conversation in my head while talking to you. I could be playing chess in my head while talking to you type of thing. But you would never know. So other people be having, like, whole other pleasure systems being, like, checked off while they're, I don't know, cutting your nails. Yeah. That's fucked. Not necessarily, like... It doesn't always have to be a sexual thing. And more times, it's never that. But we would never know, though. That's the truth. We just don't know. Because I think, like...

Oh, that's crazy! Yeah, the more I think about it- If you're a barber- Oh, shit! What? What's wrong with a barber? No, if you're a barber, like, you can look at your barber different now. Bag this. You would never know if he actually likes cutting hair for other reasons. What are the other reasons? Just talking to you? Who knows?

Exactly. Yeah, that's normal though. It's like maybe he just, he likes a social job. Maybe he likes touching your head. What? Yo, that's what I was saying, bro. You would never know. You would never know. I'm still going to go to the barber. But like you would actually never know. Like down to it, if they actually had like a... Yeah, yeah, yeah. The next time he grips my shit too weird, I'm like, fuck that shit. That's what I'm saying. Like you actually don't know? Yeah, yeah, you actually don't know. Fuck.

now it gets kind of bad but like you know how like long time ago there's some priests that because they get they you know they get close to kids and obviously there's hella cases of that and they're you know

Obviously, it's not a good case, but, like, shit. I know. They use their power to be in that. And then that's where you see... If you want to get deep on it, that's where you see, like, police officers, maybe they have a power thing. Oh, yeah. And then that's where you see certain people in the wrong positions because they abuse their power. And that's a real thing. Like, we dead-ass see that all the time. Maybe teachers...

Could be the same thing, too. Maybe they don't have a love for you to actually teach you. Facts. They want to, like, control you. Facts. But we don't know. There's some great teachers out there. I'm not saying, like, all teachers are like that, but there is definitely, like, a dark side to people that we can't tell sometimes. Yeah. Low key. It's just good to be, like, digilent. Mm-hmm.

You know what I mean? And then do your homework on people, I guess. Yeah. There was some also, this teacher that was going viral too because she runs like a babysitter camp, right? And then the first video I seen of her was some kid was like just standing, innocent kid, maybe like five. She was like this ready to go. And she had her hands on the table. The teacher goes up

get your hands off my table, sit up straight. And I'm like, what the fuck? Like, yo, this is a kid and you're just having a power trip. At least you can see it in other teachers. Like, yo, they're kids. Like,

You're the reason like what do you call this? You're like the the idol like you're the model and that's why they grow up certain shit because you have one bad teacher telling you sit up straight do this do that and then that's how you act accordingly and then you become like that as because at a young age your mind is like so moldable and then when it's taught certain things then you want to be like that forever type of thing I seen this thing too is like when a baby falls right

And they have this reaction to look at people that they trust. Really? To get a reaction. So it's like, if I fall and I'm a baby, I look at my mom. If she's going, oh no, I'm going to cry.

But if she laughs like, "Ah, good job!" I'm gonna be like, "Haha, I'mma laugh." No, yeah, that is a thing. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing with toddlers especially because like, I've seen it. I've seen it with some kids. You're not supposed to like make it such a big deal because they're gonna cry right away. Exactly, exactly. You'll be like, "Oh, you're strong. You're strong." Like, "Oh yeah, I guess I'm strong." But as soon as you hit them with the, "Are you okay?" They start crying. That's the worst question you can ask a kid. Even, yo, even when you're an adult, that question still hits.

Because I remember every time somebody, like, I'm on the verge of crying. Yeah. Or, like, I'm about to, like, go through some shit emotional. Yeah. Someone hits me, like, yo, Gavin, are you okay? Yeah.

Already like Really? Yeah maybe that might just be A thing that's like I grew up in like Yeah because it's That's your natural instinct to it Because you're Kind of taught that Yeah Because you're used to it So it becomes Type of thing I just bagged that yeah Yeah I think that's what it is Usually Because A lot of stuff we do now It's just like What we always did as kids But elevated And after learning consequences Okay So For example We didn't know like A stove was hot Until like Oh fuck I touch it It's hot

And I won't do that again. But if you want to do something to a level of like, you're supposed to touch it, even though it's hot. And then something else happens after. I'm not saying touch a stove, but I'm saying what if the stove is a different goal? I mean, it's a different challenge.

And you won't be able to see the end because everybody else tells you don't touch it. It's hot. Yeah. And then you never really get to figure it out. You never, you never know yourself type of thing. Like if you think about it, we don't know space is real unless we actually go there. But if everybody tells us, yo, space is real, space is real, space is real. Yeah. Believe it. So what is reality is reality. What everybody else says is, or is it only reality till you see? Hmm.

Or till you believe. I think whatever you believe is reality, personally. No, I think it's a combination of both, though. Because it's like, yeah, people can tell you, but you really have to go figure it out at the end of the day. Because some shit I don't know about, but people tell me it, so I believe it. That's part of my reality already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until it gets proven wrong. I think, yeah, like, Deadass, I think...

whatever I think is my reality is actually... And people want to say delusional, whatever. Damn, that's just how I live and you can't really tell me because that's actually how I'm feeling and how I'm reacting to it. You're not reacting to it that way, but I am. I hate when people call other people delusional because it's like, even if you're going for a goal, right? You have to be delusional

At first. And you have to be. So addicted to what you're doing. To get. To reach what you're going for. Right? But the other people. Are going to be like. Oh what the fuck. You're delusional. And then that'll. That'll set a person down. Which is so crazy. Because now that. That reality that they think. It is in their head. It gets. Another person. Boom. Shut down. I never take like the delusional thing. Badly though. Because. I always think of it. As. Okay I'm dreaming big enough. Word.

I always think of it like that. Because if you take it as like a... Not a diss. Like, yeah, like as a diss. Then it kind of has truth to it. You know what I mean? Like, the moment you let it hit you is the moment it becomes real. And that's what I learned. Like, the moment it actually feels like it hit you, like, oh, okay, then it is. Maybe it is. That type of thing. So to change it is to actually...

It's to actually find out the truth and how to change the truth. You know? Because no matter what, like, the truth is the truth. So I feel like if it's not there yet, as long as you're working on it, like, they can't say shit. Yeah, yeah. You know? Like, if I want to say I'm going to be the greatest actor ever, ever. And I mean, that's not my goal. But I'm just saying, like, if I want to do that and I'm not working toward it.

Then, yeah, people can shit in me all they want because I'm not even going for it. But if I'm actively doing it, they can't even knock on me because, fuck, you don't even know yet type of shit. Because I'm still to the second working on it. They can't even know yet. It's like St. Michael Jordan before he even shot or before he even made a team. You don't know he's going to be the greatest yet.

But to discredit him right away is a different story. That's true. That's true. That's why sometimes you have to keep it private. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's really crazy to see. You'll imagine seeing Michael Jordan before he even started playing basketball. Yeah. And you wouldn't even know what he's doing yet. And now like look at your homies and see if you can see something out of them.

Because I feel like you would see right away. Like, in certain people, you could tell right away if they're going to do something insanely...

out of the regular out of the norm right away though i don't know i think so personally i think that because a lot of my friends really surprised me it's like i didn't even know we were gonna do this so it's like really yeah i mean i knew i had a purpose but i'm like oh shit probably not this exactly you know i mean but that is kind of weird no because i i try i try to actively do that because it's so easy to judge a book by its cover and then kind of like make everybody seem like

not important but you can do the complete opposite and make everyone seem more important than they are yeah

That's a good thing because that's out of love. Yeah. Have you seen that guy on TikTok where he goes around in his truck and he goes to homeless people or like people that look like they need help and he offers them opportunities. So he has his own company. I think he's like the CEO and he's like, oh, yo, bro, I can take you off the streets. Just like work for me, right? And there was this one guy, right? Who was like, yo, I need $2, bro. I need to buy socks, right?

And then the guy's like, yo, are you going to buy drugs or are you going to buy socks? He's like, don't lie to me, man. And then the guy's like, no, I'm going to buy drugs, man. I just need the $2. And then he was trying to help him, right? But you can see that in his eyes...

he took his kindness and kind of like didn't process it it was like he was too far gone to uh to process the kindness and he took it as something else like oh what the fuck why are you trying to help me i don't need help like you know what i mean because he was too far gone i was so sad for the guy because you can tell you can tell in his eyes he's like yo he really needs the help but he can't get past that border of pride yeah i see you

And that's the thing. Like, you can always lead a horse to water. I was just going to say that, yeah. But he won't drink, man. He won't drink. Unless you, like, knock him out. And, like, give it to him through, like, a tube. Yeah, exactly. Yo, you see, um... Yo, I have a theory. I have a theory. Okay, okay. So, you know Drake's recent album? Yeah. You know the song, Another Late Night? Yeah. I have a theory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a theory that that's a Bobby Altaf diss. Oh, why? Check out the lyrics, fam. No, no. And guess who's on it? Drake and...

Yachty who is on who's on Bobby Bobby Alcoff's podcast Drake and Yachty listen to lyrics fam it's even it's so obvious too the more when you when you see it through that lens let me play it another late night and when did Bobby and Drake do their thing like when you read the lyrics don't play it because copyright yeah yeah just read it out so it's just like this right here starting right here okay

Thinking about this pillow, I took pillow talking. They were on the bed? Bobby and Drake were doing their podcast as pillow talk. Okay, yeah. It was literally pillow talk, right? Now, Shadi Ransom Dylan Brooks can't believe talking, right? Yeah. So, he's talking about a girl. Okay.

No, check this out. Check this out! So, weirdos in my comments talking about some Millie Bobby. Obviously the first one is like people talking about, oh, he's trying to get at Millie Bobby Brown. Yeah. But the flip side, weirdos in my comments talking about some Millie Bobby Brown.

I don't know. I don't know. Because I feel like that's a direct one to Millie Bobby. Because he gets so much slack on him for DMing. Yeah, we know that. Okay, yeah. That's the obvious bar. But you don't think there's double entendres to bars? Probably. Probably.

Is there anything else? Okay, the way I see it is... There's a lot more. Okay, okay. We were in my comments talking about some Millie Bobby. Look, their video hit a mil. She hit a mil subscribers. Think about it that way. Talking about some Millie Bobby. Okay, okay. Okay, now keep watching. Okay, okay. Let's go to Yachty. Yachty is obvious to me. Yeah.

Here. Yachty send shots, huh? Right here. Listen. Yeah, that's her. Boost a white bitch up. Now she thinks she really popping. Oh, yeah. That's 100%. That's 100%, Bobby. She said white, white. Come on. White bitch. It's a white girl. Yeah, exactly. Drake's on the track. Come on. Now it goes here.

Wait, where is it? She had big tits. Yeah, right here. She had big tits like Billie Eilish, but she couldn't sing. Bobby Althoff is known for the milk. Really? Yeah, you didn't know that? Oh, I didn't notice. Yeah, she's known for the heavy still. Really? And then the last one. Yeah, right here. We catch offs, but don't want no apologies. Kiss me. I mean, that's an obvious one, but it goes to...

We. So Drake and Yachty. They're talking about together. Yeah, yeah. If you break it down. Yeah. All together when you hear it and listen to the whole song. It makes sense to that's who they're dissing. Yeah. That's the way I see it. Who knows, man? No, it makes sense because it's like...

Drake's podcast with Bobby has 20 million. Why did he take that down? There's no reason for him to just take it down if it did so much views, right? - What do you think it actually is? Like the reason he took it down and shit. - I actually have no idea.

My original theory was because of that video that she posted. Of the Drake concert? Yeah. But I don't think it was that serious. I don't think that's what set it off. Or if that's what set it off, Drake is so petty. Because that wasn't even a serious video. It's just her not vibing with the concert. No, but that could mean a lot to him. Okay.

I guess. That could mean a lot to him. Yeah. And it was funny because Funny Marco, the one who's really supposed to be the awkward interviewer. Yeah. Yachty went on to his show. Oh, he has a podcast? Yeah, yeah. That was where it started. Where Bobby started. No, it was him on her podcast.

No, it was Bobby on Marco's. On his? Yeah, yeah. So that's why Yachty came on. He said, oh, she went on your podcast. And then she took your style. And then now you're here. Dirty socks. No shirt. And he was just roasting him. And you could tell that Marco, it was real. Because he broke character. Like, you know how he's serious? But he laughed when he's like, you're out here. Dirty socks. No shirt on. And this white girl just got boosted up.

Like, we will never learn. And everyone in the studio laughing because it's true. Yeah, because it's true. It's actually true what he said. Damn, bro. Because we think... Ah, fuck. We think it's like all an industry plant thing. But we don't know for sure. It could just be that's the way...

I don't know. Like that's, that's what's open for media at the time. Cause look, I dead ass think that things go viral on purpose. Like that's when, when it's necessary. And Rick Rubin had the same thing. He said, when something comes out and it changes the world, it was going to happen anyway. It just depended on who was going to do it.

So something a creative idea it's flying around in the universe is flying around the whole world It's gonna land on somebody's head. Somebody's gonna come out with the same idea Yeah, it's just if you're gonna do it or not because that's the time for it That's the time the world needs and that's the time it's ready and that's time what will happen It doesn't matter if it's you or not. Somebody's gonna do it. Mm-hmm. That is true because if maybe if we waited on

until maybe december instead of november to start a podcast maybe we would be the in another parallel universe we would be the just the you know i mean oh you'd be the copy we would be the copies of the thing i wouldn't like i don't know about that because if you've seen something and you're like i can do this way better because we did technically copy people we like there was podcasts before and then we said fuck that we can actually do this way better whoa when i did what

When I first hopped on the podcast, I didn't talk about theories to try and be viral. And you can watch the first episode. Yeah. Like, I didn't talk about it to make it go viral. I just talked about it because I actually, like, that's my shit. Facts. Like, deadass, like, watch the first episode of that. You don't believe me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so different. Like, have you ever gone back, like, to the earlier ones and just watched it? Yeah, I'm just quieter. Yeah. Low key. I'm just quieter. That's it. Yeah, yeah.

I think that's the only difference, to be honest with you. Yo, this is crazy, because I think the only podcast that I really, really, like, you can tell I out-talked you was podcast number one. Oh, really? Because I think you were still getting used to it, but I was already kind of extroverted at the time, right? And I was ready to talk. I had all my stories ready. And you could tell, like, if we're doing word count, it was definitely me, you feel me? Word, yeah. But after that, you're like, fuck that. Let me do a theories. I went quiet, fam.

No, because I was just talking about what I fucked with. When it's a beginning stage of a podcast or even just anything, trying to feel out where you fit in it, where you fit in the world of that. And that was kind of me at the time. Finding your role is very hard because it's like, even like, what do you call it? On a basketball team. Like,

If you don't find your role, then you're not gonna mesh anywhere good to that team. No, that's so true. You know what I mean? Or even a wrestler, if you don't find your role, like how John Cena found his thug thing. Like, what are you? Yeah, like, what are you, right? So it's like, yo, after that one and the theories came, that's when I was like, fuck. Now it's like, I gotta play some type of role because the first one, I was really just chilling. I was just, you know what I mean? No, but I feel like you make your own role.

Depending on who you, when it's authentic, it's just you type of thing. Yeah. Like, there's no other person that's going to be a Gavin. You know what I mean? Like, nobody can really do Gavin like Gavin. Nobody can do Carlos like Carlos because it's just impossible. Yeah, yeah. But other people can talk about the same things, but it's not going to come out the same. I guess, yeah. It's like somebody else playing Tony Stark as Iron Man.

Like, yeah, there could have been another Iron Man, but shit, we seen Robert Downey Jr. do Iron Man. Like, fuck, you don't want to see nobody else do that shit now. That shit is exactly how it should be. And as it should. I truly believe, like, people, when you watch somebody doing what they're really, really good at, it's meant to be. And if you enjoyed it, it was meant to be in that way that you enjoyed it through them.

and not enjoyed it through another person. Personally. What do you mean by that? So if, let's say, let's say, let's say you found a hobby. It could have been in fucking tennis. Okay. And the first person you latched onto was this one tennis player and how he played or just his swag or whatever.

And that's what got you into the passion of it. Okay. I think it's meant to be that way because his, I guess, aura or energy passed on to you for you to want to do it. Now, it's meant to be that way because it's almost like a stem. A stem and it branches off into different people inspiring other people. Mm-hmm.

Maybe if somebody else was doing my role, they wouldn't have inspired the one person that was doing this and this. But since I was doing it, I inspired that person, that person, that person. Shit, if somebody else was here, they might be inspired those people. But it's always like an interconnected web of like fucking...

possibilities and intertwining of people i know you know yo if you like really just take a step back and bag it like having like being able to inspire someone is crazy power like i would feel karma if i didn't like do the right thing or i didn't say i was like spitting bad influence into the mic you know i mean and all our fans just turned out to be like the biggest dickheads that's that's what nle chopper is going through right now you heard about it no no no

Didn't he make a switch, though? He's now like a spiritual choppa. Fuck, is it NLE choppa or is it a... NBA Youngboy, I think. It's either NBA Youngboy or NLE. Leave down in the comments who it is. But I know... I think it might have been... It might have been fucking NLE. Yeah. No, it's not. I lied. It's NBA Youngboy. He came out and he said on an interview like, yo, this was fucked up. But he said, hopefully God forgives me or...

hopefully people forgive me of all the all the evil I've done and all the violence I probably like influenced in the world yeah because his music is about violence that's true that's true he dead ass said that in an interview fam I got chills when I heard that it's the same effect when I heard you know Oppenheimer yeah so he created the nuclear bomb and he had a speech and when he said it he was like I become the destroyer of worlds

And it's the same. Like, I was watching this shit and I'm like, fuck. It's like the same energy right here. Yeah. No, it was too crazy. Some shit crazy happened too. Because at that same party, right? When we were doing all the pizza stuff.

One of my friends, we were just play fighting and stuff like that. And then he tried to act tough. And I had both my rosaries under my jacket, right? And then he did this thing where he like pulled my jacket. He didn't know the rosaries were there, right? And he pulled it and one of the rosaries broke. Oh shit. And like, I think it was like five minutes after. Yeah. He was the one that got paranoid and they were pointing at him. It was like he was the only one that was targeted, right?

Of the security guards. No, but if you think about it, it was his kindness that cared though. What do you mean? He was on the one with the right moral, if you think about it. No, but it was crazy because it's like, he was the one that broke my thing and then almost, almost was the one that got caught. Okay, I have a question for you. Yeah. If you're gonna wear rosaries, do you pray with them? Yeah. Okay, that's good. Yeah, obviously. It's not just for jewelry. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Because some people just wear for jewelry and it becomes a thing. Because a lot of people, fam, like...

And this is why it's kind of iffy. It's because they wear something to look a certain way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. If you're going to use it, pray with it type of thing. Yeah, obviously, obviously. Yeah. No, but fam, bro was low-key on the right conscience. Yeah, I guess. But bare karma hit him right after, though. When we were all trying to dip, he was the one that got singled out. So I'm like, wow. I didn't even get targeted. I was like, oh, I'm protected. Low-key.

But yeah. There's also some... I know we're done with the Halloween stuff. But there's also this paranormal game that's viral on TikTok. Have you heard of it? No. It's the lights on, lights off game. No, I don't think I've heard of this. So the whole reason why it's going on...

Like viral. It's because... These group of girls played it one night. And recorded everything. And what happened was... There was actually something that they summoned. Right? In the room. So... I advise you obviously not to play this. But... So the whole thing goes is... When she started recording...

I think there were three friends. They were all in the room. And then one friend was on this side of the room, close to the door. And the other side was on the opposite side. So the one friend tells the girl, she's like, okay, when the lights go on, you're not allowed to move. But when the lights go off, you're allowed to move and you're trying to get close to me. And you have five moves to touch me. So they start playing the game.

Lights go off. She moves. Let's go on. She does like a weird pose and then she's closer to the girl, right? Wait, wait. So is she doing it herself or is it like... What do you mean? No, like the girl on the other side is like running, stopping. Okay, okay. It's like red light, green light. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So boom, everything's fine with the first girl, right? Yeah. The second girl goes, okay, like Gabby, like your turn. Lights go off. Boom, boom. Go back on. Are you here when the lights go off again? Yeah. There's a thump.

In the room. And once she turns off the light, she's like, why'd you stomp on the ground? That's not allowed. She's like, I never stomped on the ground, bro. So what was it? There was a big picture frame that went from one corner of the room and

fell on the other corner of the bed. - Holy shit, what the fuck? - And they're like, they're like, "Wait, wait, wait." - It like teleported into-- - Yeah, so they're like, "Wait, it's way too heavy to be flying across the room like that." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Right? So obviously they try it again. They're like, "Lights off, lights on." Gabi does like this weird pose.

The girl records it. The ceiling fan starts moving like this. This one like talk to me shit. And then when they're all freaking out, this is when they said, fuck that, we're not playing no more. One of the, so it was like a cabinets. There was cabinets in the roof, right? One of the cabinet doors swang open and that's when they ran out the room

Bro, we're ending this game right now turn on all the lights in the house fuck yo yo when when you said it at first I thought what was gonna happen was like you turn off the lights and then you turn it on And it turn off the lights like oh, yo, what's going on? But Loki I think the reason why Like they get possessed or like there's something that happens. It's cuz you're playing with lights and

So it's like maybe like when you flick lights off and on, you're calling for something to go in the room. You know what I mean? So it's like bugs. Like, you know how like flies are attracted to light type thing? Do you think spirits are attracted to dark? Yeah, obviously. That's why it's like, and especially if they see that thing, they're like, what is that? Oh, fuck. I got chills. Because I watched Talk To Me and I'm just thinking about the ending of it. Did you watch it yet? No, I didn't. But was it like a hallway with flickering lights?

No, it's crazy. That's crazy. Okay. Okay. Oh my god. Fuck my phone. I don't want to spoil it. Should I talk about it or not? Yeah, talk about it. Talk about it. Are you gonna watch it? Probably not. Okay, check this out. Oh my god. This is fucking scary. Isn't that scary? It's actually scary. It's actually scary. So, oh my god. Alright, so this girl, right?

In the beginning of the movie? Uh-huh. Oh, shit. So when they play with the monkey paw thing and they talk to me, it says, talk to me. And they light a candle. Candles here. And they do the talk to me thing. And in front of her...

What would happen would a spirit would appear and talk to her. Yeah. And it would be attracted by the light. Boom, I'm here. Now, what do you want to talk about? Blah, blah. And it's usually like a spirit that can't really communicate and it would possess you after. Okay. If you let it. Now, check this out.

A whole bunch of kids did it and they all got like a different person popping up. Because it's just kind of like an open door and who's gonna come next. This one gets fucked. At the end of the movie, fam. Spoiler alert. If you haven't watched Talk To Me yet. Yeah, skip this. At the end of the movie, she ends up... Because she got possessed. She ends up doing some sketchy shit to herself.

ending up like jumping into into a highway trying to save somebody something like that it gets it gets iffy anyways the next thing you see is her walking through a hospital and she's looking around like what the fuck no and the lights turn off lights turn on and she's walking the hospital like what the fuck and she's keep walking through a hospital and she would see like her dad leaving a room and she would see like oh her friend her friend that was um in in a hospital bed he was able to get out

leaving, getting cleared. She's walking through, it gets darker, it gets darker, goes to the washroom, it gets darker. And then she sees like a light in all the way back. So she starts following it down the hallway. She gets closer and closer and she's like, oh, I'm trying to see like, what is that? Gets closer and closer and closer. And she notices what she sees, complete darkness, but one little light. And what the light was coming from

was a candle. And she ended up on the other side of the talk to me game. Where she was the spirit talking to the alive person. - Yo, so she switched teams? - So she died and became a spirit to talk to others? - That's kinda, that's not scary, that's kinda cool, like that's a crazy plot twist. - You have to watch the whole movie. - To understand it? Okay, okay.

Yeah, because just you telling me that that's a great like I imagine like I'm the ghost now. No, no, no. It's not cool. But you don't want to be the ghost. Yeah. Okay. It's not cool still. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. It's super fucked up. I'm not gonna lie.

Man, I hate talking about that stuff, bro. Wait, wait. So she was in a... So wait. So when she was walking past and seeing all these people, right? She was in a coma or something? Or like she already died? And this was like her dream? That was pretty much her dying. Okay, okay. Yeah, that was like her dying. And then the dad leaving the hospital was like... Yeah. The dad leaving because she died already. Oh, she's seeing that in real time. Yeah, bro! Oh my god.

See, that question is like, does that shit really happen when you die? You don't know the truth. Imagine you're watching your own funeral. Mom, don't cry while you're crying. That's so sad. Yeah, yeah. It's really a mind trip. It's really a mind trip. That's why you don't think about it too much like that. But you should just always do your best while you can because, man, this is the time you have. Use your time wisely type of thing. That's an A24 thing, right? It's A24. A24 is the studios that do the best stuff.

horror movies onto a level where it's like it's not cheesy yeah i mean because the regular horror movies are usually kind of corny and shit like they trip and fall shit yeah and it's meant to like jump scare you no the ones that i really fuck with though i watched the the terrifier i think so oh i watched that oh my god no that shit you thought it was scary yes what the first one uh or you watched two i didn't watch two i didn't watch two was fuck yeah i didn't watch two yet and

I know it's gory, right? Yeah, it's super gory. Number one was mad gory. No, but they didn't... It wasn't corny in a way. It was more like... Even though you know what's gonna happen, they do it in such a perfect way. It's fucked. It's fucked. But yeah, I recommend that to people. Terrifier 2? I heard Terrifier 2 was so fucking scary that they had to ban it out of the theaters because people would pass out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And eventually...

Yeah, like there's TikToks that went viral of people actually passing out in the theater. And yo, they just took it out everywhere and you can even watch it anywhere. Yeah.

I'm trying to watch it lowkey. Yeah, and then now that it's that bad bro. I mean no no cuz I have a fear of class already Oh, I didn't watch it by myself though. I watched it with a bunch of friends Yeah, yeah We wanted to see what the hype about and watching a horror movie by itself is different super different like and then we'd have proceeded to watch the Joker right after that it was actually a fuck the Joker's not scary but it's like it's psychological is like damn there's really there might be someone in the subway right now like on that type of timing that's true bro

Like you never know. That's why I never want to take the subway at maybe like 2 a.m. Fuck that. Especially in Toronto. Oh yeah. Damn bro. Imagine what would you actually do? No like realistically if you saw somebody trying to kill you like a clown. Yeah. I guess you just have to throw hands while you throw hands. That's it. I don't know. But I feel like the oddity of it would make you freeze up. That's what I'm saying. You feel me? I don't know like if a clown is trying to talk to me I'm sitting there bro. I'm not turning my head.

Because it's already different enough to be approached by someone trying to harm you. Now, someone trying to harm you in a costume that you don't really see often, that's a different level. Maybe that's why Batman works. Because if you think about it, that's the exact same shit.

Because Batman's dressed up as something you wouldn't automatically see. I'm saying like if we're in Batman universe. Yeah. Like he's dressed up as some shit and then you see him trying to beat you up. Like obviously you probably deserve it because you're a criminal. But it's the same shit. Batman is literally like a clown.

but not dressed up as a clown yeah because he's dressed up as some other thing yeah they're still trying to harm you and like before you process it you're like wait what is that thing yo that's kind of crazy yeah low key it is damn if you think about it like that so if you want to win in a fight or if you want to go out one day just wear a mask bro everyone will be like what the fuck i'm not even gonna pay attention to this guy oh you know what though i feel like okay you know that thing where they say um

If you're naked with shoes on, you're more naked than if you're just naked. Wait, more naked which... Yeah, I kind of get that. So if you're naked but only have shoes on, you look more naked than just being naked. Yeah, because why did you put the shoes on? Exactly. So in the same sense...

This is my theory on it. Like, if there's a criminal with a mask on, but you're by yourself, you're probably going to get packed. You're going to feel as mad scared. Yeah. But if you have like five men deep with you and you see a guy with a mask, you can probably take this guy. It's probably more fun. Yeah. Because technically you're not beating up a human. It's like that's not a human you're looking at.

It's all perception. Depending on the mask, it could be Shrek, it could be like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because you're really like, your first instinct, yeah, I'm not going to like beat up a random human. But if it has like that funny sense, it was like, oh, that's not a human, that's someone else. Okay. But I think it's the threshold of if you have people with you. Because that changes it. That changes it. Would you still be scared? No, because like,

No, this is what I'm trying to say. Okay. If that guy didn't have a mask on, was still like reckless and trying to fight you, but you have five mans with you, it's still kind of scary, you know? Super scary. But give him Phineas and Ferb mask.

Yeah, he's less scary, but there's five minutes now. Let's switch it though Okay, if there's a regular man that's like trying to get at you and you're by yourself like okay Maybe I could take them. Yeah, you give them you give them a clown mask. Holy fuck. Can I take oh you know what I'm saying here? It's like it's like the naked with shoes. Yeah. Oh or naked just naked. Yeah, it's that type of thing It does. No, that's it. Yeah, because with a group. Oh, that makes so much sense. Because with a group

And he has a mask, I'm like, "Oh, yo, you can probably take this guy." But by yourself is a totally different dynamic. But by yourself is a totally different dynamic. Oh, yeah, 'cause low-key, yeah, I'm not the- Even if it's more friendly-looking, I'm still- By myself, fuck that. 'Cause think about it, if a Bukti, like a scary-looking Bukti was trying to attack five- five mans, like, "Yo, we'll probably just, like, dip. Let's not try to deal with him." But he's wearing, like, a Phineas and Ferb mask, or, like, even a clown mask. We would have to beat him up. "Yo, we should probably beat this guy up. He's wearing a clown mask. Come on."

But if you're by yourself, the oddity of it, it rises up. That's what I'm saying, bro. That's a great analogy. You broke that down perfectly. Right? Feel me? It's just like the naked without shoes or naked with shoes. Yeah, that's fucked, man. That's crazy. Lesson of the day, man. Don't ever try to fuck up a clown on your ones. But with a group, why not? Is ketchup spicy? Is ketchup spicy? No, man.

But if you didn't have anything else on it for a long time and you tried it, would it be spicy? If you didn't have anything on it. No, back this, back this. Oh, yo, I want to know. No, no, no. Hear me out. No, no, no. Hear me out. If you never tasted spice before and then you had you had ketchup. Ketchup is a spice. So would that necessarily be spicy? Ketchup isn't a spice. It's a sauce. No, but it has spices in it.

No, but why do we count as spicy? No, what I'm saying here is like, let's say you never tried any flavor. Okay, and ketchup was the first one you ever tried. Yeah, that would be spicy.

You can't tell me that wouldn't be spicy. Like spicy, like hot? Yeah. No, it wouldn't. No, no, no. It wouldn't be like hot, but it would be spicy. Okay, I get it. Because that would be the only level of spice. Yeah. Okay, yeah. You're right. You're right. Right? It's like the naked, naked with shoes type shit. Yeah, but that goes with everything though. It's like, even if you've never tried mustard, is mustard spicy? Yeah. Mustard is spicy. Why did the bear drink water? Why? Because he was thirsty. Okay, yeah. We got to end it right here. It's 341. We're losing our minds, man.

Yo, my dad used to hit me with those jokes all the time. I would laugh so hard. And then I would laugh and the guy would be like, yo, explain it. And then we're like... No, it actually makes sense though. Why? Because we were thirsty, fam. But that's it? That's the joke? Who said it was a joke? I was just asking a question. That's the joke. Yeah, man. It's 3.41. I'm about to go to bed. If you guys are wondering why I have a red nose, it's because...

I was filming my film. Because Christmas is coming up? No, I was filming my film. So I'm not sick and I don't have like acne or nothing. I just have to put like fake blood on my nose. Anyways, thank you everyone for watching Jumper Jumper Podcast. Make sure to comment, like, subscribe, all that good stuff.

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