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A Conversation with Dermot Mulroney

Publish Date: 2022/8/29
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May I please speak with Zoe? Oh, hello, Lamorne. Let's patch in Hannah. God, I forgot what it was like working with you guys. Welcome to our show. Welcome to our show.

Welcome to our show, Dermot. Thank you so much, Zoe. I'm so happy. How have you been? I've been so busy and so happy and doing just great. We just had a second to touch base on our families, and I'm happy to hear you're doing well. Mine is too, so that's, of course, the most important thing.

Yeah, absolutely. And here's to you. Gosh, it's great to see you. New show, your podcast that everyone is so crazy about and is so extremely popular. You know, it's just fun. It's just fun because I just missed everybody so much, you know? So it's just kind of like how we can just revisit but also...

be like in business doing it. I love both of those ideas, but I'm so glad that you still operate as a unit, even if it's loose and so touched that you'd think to have me on. Oh my gosh, of course. We're so happy to have you. You asked about what I was doing now, similar to Blue Girl, where I was asked to join an already highly acclaimed show, which

I'm just finishing up an appearance for the film Scream 6. Oh, wow. That's fun. And then from there, I move on to a little thriller where I play kind of like the bad boss in the back of the pool hall for a couple of days. That's in Alabama. That's awesome. Then I go to Morocco for a Showtime show called Beirut, where I play in one of the four episodes. They're just a...

just to be starting work on that. Morocco is one of my favorite places. So amazing. Have you been there? I never have. What kind of experience did you have there? I spent six weeks in Morocco doing a movie like a number of years ago.

And I just thought it's just so beautiful and amazing. And I love the food and the people and everything's awesome about it. It's so cool. Which part are you going to? I'm not even sure. I don't even know those details. Definitely take a chance if you have time.

weekend off or anything, take a chance to just travel around a little bit because it's really worth it. I sure plan on it. And I do. I see already on the schedule a stretch of three days, so I'll make the most of it. Oh, yeah. Even three days, even if you hit all of the places in Morocco, you can go so many places from there really easily too. Europe's really close too. So definitely. And just the

The architecture, the, like, it just is so cool. You're going to love it. What was the project that took you there? I can really see it left an impression. You know, I can see it on your face. I was very charmed by just, like, I was just charmed so much by the culture there. Yeah, I did this movie with Bill Murray called Rock the Casbah a number of years ago, and it was fun. And I had tons of time off because I was a big part, and they just kept me there for six weeks, so...

I was just traveling around, enjoying Morocco. That was pretty cool. Well, those experiences add so much to our lives, the off-camera part of it, what you need to find to do on those days in the States, a state park or a day trip or something. That's right. We've done that all these years. And that's like the flip side of the tale is how you take up your time when you're not shooting on the schedule, but you have to be in the other place. Exactly. I know. And it's interesting.

I have so many like memories from places being on location. You have such a different experience because you kind of get to live there a little bit, you know, more than just visiting. So it's, it's great. And we just so enjoyed having you in our midst for, you know, quite a bit of season one. You're just such an amazing addition to our cast. So tell us like, how did, how did,

did this all come about um because i remember them saying you know we're we have this character coming up called fancy man uh i still have to and i still cringe when i hear that part i mean i know i get it but i really want i mean i have no regrets but fancy man therefore and because is so

Funny. The name. It is funny. And it really stuck people. People really remember Fancy Man. It bounces back on me all the time. Do people say like, oh, hey, Fancy Man. I'm not kidding you. A lot. Well, of course, it reemerged as a binging favorite. Yeah.

Yeah. So there was just an upswing of people shouting Russell at me as they're driving out of the gas station. Yeah. Well, it always feels good. Listen, you were so such a great I mean, it was such a great get, you know, for us. And I remember them saying like Dermot Mulroney is interested. And I was like, oh, my God, if we could get him, that would be absolutely amazing. And I don't know if you remember this. We did like a podcast.

It was like a play reading or some kind of a table read many years ago. I don't remember what it was, but I remember you were there and you told me you played cello, right? Yes, I still do. And I did then. I want to dial in on that table. I know you're a professional cellist.

cello player which a lot of people probably don't realize you're like amazing I mean it's like it's not like oh yeah he just dabbles in cello like no he's like a world-class cello player check it out you can the proof is out there um but I remember you saying that and then I was like huh let's see and I was like oh no this guy's a real cello player aside from being an amazing actor so what was that table read because I don't remember what the table read was well I can ask you what's

By any chance, was Brooke Shields there? Did she also play? Did I play husband and wife? I don't think so. Team. I think, you know who I do think was there? Who I didn't really get to talk to, but I think David Schwimmer was there. Was Michelle Monaghan there? Michelle Monaghan? Because that's another one I'm thinking of.

You know, so I think to let people in on this thing of being an actor, that you're nonstop asked to do table reads for people so they can hear their script out loud. And sometimes you get this ask, and it's not somebody you know. Like, in fact, a lot of times. And, you know...

And it can be a real Russian roulette kind of situation. Yeah. Because you might be, I've been terrible in these table reads before and be like, well, now I will never work with any of those people. But yeah. So imaginable. But what, what I found is you walk into one of these rooms and it's, it's the most amazing cast. And of course, he doesn't even have the, you know, the actors of the same. Oh, yeah.

Yes, I've been there. It's always better sometimes as a table read because it's so good and they have all the people who are there. Well, also sometimes they ask you really like last minute and you're like, oh gosh, that sounds fun. Let me clear my schedule. And then you get there and you're like, oh my God, I'm cold reading this thing in front of all these incredible people and big bosses. Yeah.

But anyway, I don't remember exactly what it was. I just remember you were there and I remember the room and I think David Schwimmer was there. But that could have been another. I could be like blending other table reads together. Of course. And yeah, you and I, we blend in. So, you know. We blend in. David Schwimmer really has a way of blending in. Wallflowers. Yeah.

If you ask a question adjacent to what I'd like to ask you, maybe you could confirm this. Yes. Okay. Starting with, was one of the writers of the first season named Dana Fox? Dana Fox is a producer on New Girl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's amazing. That doesn't always mean that's the person that you work with in the room and et cetera, but I can tell you this. Yes. Tell me. This is how I got...

Tell me.

Dana Fox is an amazing writer. She is an amazing writer. She wasn't in our, I only said producer because she wasn't in our writer's room. That's what I mean. If she was one of the originators, then they're not always, you know, yeah. Yeah, she was like just an amazing, like just voice and like, but just such a wonderful person and fantastic. So she was like. If I've ever met, it was 20 odd years ago.

Before New Girl and not since. So this is me reporting back to Dana Fox that I know that the conversation went this way. As they're writing Fancy Man, they wrote it, everybody, we'll talk about why that part's so funny in a minute. But they were talking about it, and I think the conversation went like this, maybe with Liz Merriweather, saying we should get someone like a Dermot Mulroney type

to play the role and Dana Fox is credited with saying why don't we just get Dermot Mulroney and then my version of it is like five days later I'm on your on our set a comedy chaos world on that set that was just unforgettable um

And the results. So fun. But I don't know who's talking about like not being on that show and then visiting this to see the process. Yeah, what was it like? What the realities had to do with what jokes were being pitched over the wall. And it was kind of like this incredibly dialed in free for all. And then. Such a great.

Way of putting it, Dermot, because it was like so much chaos, but so many like talented people all in one place, you know? So noticeable when I stepped on that. Maybe there was a table read for that. Even there was, which I recall. But on the stage in particular, in the group.

but of course my part was mostly dialed in with you and with jake so um i just knew i was working with really staggeringly talented comedic people but you also this dials into something that we touched on before about making your own fortune maybe you touched on because

Really, that's so admirable too, that you had some say in a position other than just being the actor of designing the tone and the feel and the type of comedy because you really were going at it just a slightly different angle that would captivate everybody.

You know, from going from that real boxed in Seinfeld. What's the other popular one? They had a bunch of people that go to a coffee shop. Ah, there was a great actor on season 10. That's me. It's called Friends. But you guys broke all that and did just as funny material. Thank you. You know, open camera shooting and outside and stuff like that. Well, you know, it's interesting. Like so much of it.

Yeah, I think so much of it's about the process and how you get to those moments. And my favorite...

working on movies because I hadn't done that much TV up to doing New Girl. I'd barely done any TV, just a little bit. I did Weeds and like Frasier and a couple of Veronica's Closet, like a couple things. Actually with the Friends people. But I loved like working on movies, like having the opportunity to like

you know, do the script and then improvise on the script and then like have like writers, like, like, you know, in, in real time, like giving alts and all those kinds of like many different Avenue channels to getting the good stuff. And I know I, I see that you've been doing righteous gemstones. Yes. I was on their first season. And David Gordon green, um,

One of my favorite directors ever to work with. And, and he was the first director I worked with that would just do, we would rehearse and he would just go, okay, and now just keep going. And we would just like improvise and he'd, we'd write it down. And then, you know,

Before you know it, like we'd have like, like these new pages that were like, you know, kind of influenced by our, our rehearsals and, and then we get to improvise on set and also stick to the script. Like title check that one. What movie are you talking about? David Green? Oh, all the real girls was this movie that I did with David Gordon Green.

It's a drama. No, I know it well. Sorry, it skipped out of my mind. Oh, yeah, no. Especially, I was thinking about me and Undertow, which I did with him right now. Oh, yes. Undertow is such a good movie. Literally back-to-back movies right now.

Yeah. So, so he's just the one to punch with like Zoe Dermott. And then he, I, he worked with, I did also your highness with them, which totally different kind of tone. Yeah. But anyway, I just like love his process. And, and so, you know, it was actually the way Jake Kazdin are who directed our pilot and a bunch of episodes in the first season. And he continued to be one of our executive producers, but yeah,

That's kind of how he likes to work too. And it's just, it's nice because there's a lot of different avenues to getting the like kind of loose, open, fun. Yeah. This for me was that specific formula of thinking that you were going in and you had your lines and they'd go in that order and you'd do it again and then maybe a third take so you get it really good. And then like all hell breaks loose.

Screaming like, say that again. You know, literally the thoughts being, you know, salvos coming over the set at you that you got to feel. It was so fun and so amazing to watch it dial up or head in one direction and like be...

you'd be doing like it, you know, like story editing even on the fly, which before you know it, we're eventually going to get to true Americans anyway. But I mean, it's like the true American of comedy sets, but because we never really fully knew the rules. There was like a really strong, super vague idea of how that game was actually works.

Not only how it was shot, how it was choreographed, all of that, watching you work through that was amazing. And my end, of course, was like basically being told which stool to stand on. Yeah.

Well, I mean, it was good times. It's funny, we actually this morning recapped the episode where you're playing True American with us. And your exchanges with Max Greenfield, where he's making fun of you, and then Jake slash Nick is obsessed with you and wants to show you his notebook that...

Those exchanges are some of my favorite. It sort of encompasses what I really enjoy watching on the show, like myself as just a person watching it. I'm like, oh, it's funny when... Those guys just...

left me completely undone. You know, I was losing it all along. I drive home going, Oh, what just happened? Well, well, at one point, Max completely, um, was laughing so hard and you can see it in the, I think I did catch him off, but that's because, well,

When he talks, something like that, right? And he's so funny and you're so funny because you're so confused by why he is so competitive. Why?

why is that character so funny? I mean, I'll take some credit. Sure. But take that off and Max and Jake too. And you, God, the scene where you're trying to what scare me away or impress me, you're jumping on the couch. Am I thinking about how you, Oh yeah. You know, I haven't watched that one in a long time. So nuts. I love, I, that was some of my, I mean,

I had so much fun doing all this stuff, you know. There's something to the character, maybe the age span, maybe the good, you know, maybe at that time before, I don't know, could we still make that? We could. We could do it.

But, you know what I mean? We could do it again. But those are stickier grounds even since when we did this. Romance plays differently. Sex plays differently on screen. Right, right, right. In recent years for all the reasons we know. But I think it's part... I mean, I think, like, our... I think, like, the show's been resonating because it has, like, a little... You know, it's still...

You know, it's interesting to me because I'm like, oh, this show that we started in 2012 was like a totally different time in a way. Yeah.

And yet, it's still, for some reason, is resonating. I mean, there are a lot of kids that are really loving it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I want to bring up one thing that- Also, it's an age group that caught it. So they'd be watching people their age, but they're 10 years younger than you. Exactly, exactly. So they're watching people their age at a different time, but we're not that age anymore. Yeah.

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Okay, I have something to bring up just while I think of it, okay? Yes, anything. And that is that we, because we loved you so much on the show that we brought, you know, you came back a lot. You know, you're one of our favorite, favorite guest stars. And you came back in our final season. Yeah. And I believe, or maybe it was our second to last, it was final season, right? Both seasons? It was. I think I had one episode in the second season and then your final seventh season. Yeah. And I reappeared.

So there is one point where you're wrestling with Jake Johnson and Jake broke his hand. Do you remember this? I do remember this. And I was like, wow, that is like full commitment. Like you guys were like full commitment. Like a lot of people don't realize like how much actors like will commit to moments. Like you both were like going for that wrestling moment.

Right. No, it was a very confusing day. I had not been on New Girl for all those years. So I brought in...

Yeah. I mean, a lot, a lot happened in that moment. Obviously I've deconstructed it. Jake and I really parted friends and I've seen him at times since. Yeah. Oh no, absolutely. But it was a situation that in hindsight, you know, didn't have to happen where one of the two guys doing that. And it was because I was going hard first.

But that's what I would have done. I mean, safely and stunt wise and so forth. Right, of course. It was a total accident. Like it was not. There was sitcom rules, though, that I wasn't really following where it's not quite that necessary to be that physical. So then we we got into a zone that was that was different and more physical because I approached it that way. Jake was trying to have me not do that.

The script says I have his hand under my arm and so forth. So I'm going for what's written down and so forth. Right, right, right. Then there's directed camera angles. No, it was a super confusing day. I was there and I remember it like...

that it was a super confusing day and it was like late. I think it was like the last thing we did. But anyway. I knew he was injured and I really regret that moment. He was fine. Not on wood. I've had so few or zero injuries on set. So this one really stands out and I've really given a lot of thought. So I know not to have that happen again.

Right. Yeah. It was, it was, it was troubling just because of course he got hurt. I didn't know he was like a broken hand that day, but I knew he was hurt. Well, I think he was like, he was being very stoic about it. Right. Right. Right. Back between hit,

Between my back and the wall. So I'm being thrown against the wall. He's got his hand around me. Right. It was just an accident. I'm just going sideways instead of straight back. There's room for the hand, et cetera. There's just those little things you can rethink. Yeah.

Well, I don't want you to feel bad. I wasn't trying to bring it up because it was just like what I found to be an interesting behind the scenes thing for people that might not know. Jake was also being extremely stoic. Like he was not he was.

He was being kind of stoic. So you kind of couldn't tell that he was actually hurt. No, it wasn't like someone had been hurt. No, I didn't. I couldn't tell. Like, I just, he just seemed a little bit cranky, like crankier than normal, you know? Yeah, that's because I think he was probably in intense pain and didn't want to be, you know, you know, would try to try and shake it off like you would in a sport, you know, and get back on the mark. So, yeah.

Yeah. But it's been, you know, some people know of it. It's been discussed and asked about. So I'm glad that we can discuss it like this and fill in some of the blanks, but you know, all in all note to producers, stunt coordinators, actors, be really clear on like what the, what you're aiming for in that scene. If someone else had said, Hey,

Here on New Girl Season 7, we kind of pull our punches and just wrestle a little. Right. Well, you know what, too. I've just seen two stuntmen fling themselves down. I mean, then there's two human beings. I've never seen this. Maybe there's a reason. But I know in real life what I saw. I was there on the set to witness the stunt, which isn't always the case because they don't need you because he's you. Right.

And it was like a real elbow banger, you know what I mean? So rolling into the coverage of that, and I didn't get good signals from that.

Well, I noticed one thing that they do on sets a lot, and it's actually, like, I think bad. No, it is bad. A lot of times you're like—and I understand why it's done, but they'll have stunts and, like, regular shooting to do on the same day. And, you know, usually stunts is a combination of the—you have the stunt people doing the most—

intense stuff and then you have the actors like filling in like doing what they can and then you know anything really dangerous you have stunt doubles for but they normally are like well we want to get the meat of the acting first you know like we the acting's most important so like let's leave that you know have that first and then they leave the stunts at the end of the day and then you that's what i've actually that's when you see you know people get can can get injured

Um, when stunts get pushed to the end of the day, cause people are, everybody's tired. And then it's like that kind of compounds. And that's their performance. Same things happen to actors for forgetting their lines late in the day and, and less, less, uh, precise when you're tired and stuff. So,

No to producers. You know, I know our hours are getting shorter every way they ought to have been all along. But you guys have been working people to a dangerous degree, especially in network television all those years doing 21-hour episodes. I'm glad everybody got so rich and all. And there was what they called residuals back there and all that. But I don't think people got really looked after. I think a lot of shit went down on the set.

And I think people got exhausted season after season. And that's when people started getting hurt and stuff like that. I'm not saying it was on New Girl because I only joined for those two episodes at the end. I mean, we were tired, like pretty tired our first, I would say like our first three seasons. But we'd always have like longish days. It's funny because they'll talk about, I'll always hear people talk about like, oh, well, a work day should be like an eight-hour day. And I'm like, no.

That's so funny because like on a film set and I've pretty much been my main job other than music like my entire life since I was a teenager is like working on film sets and I'm like a 12 hour day feels short. I'm like, oh, we're done. Yeah.

Okay, like I remember my first day on a set ever when I was a kid, basically. It was 14 hours and I was like, oh, this feels normal. That feels like 14 hours feels like normal to me. 16's a bit much, you know?

I think it happens less, I think, at least in my experience. Maybe I'm at a different age and they don't grind the old guy down the way they used to when we were kids. But hopefully sets are safer all around for all sorts of reasons. And something like that might not happen again. I know it won't for me.

Well, if an actor is there for 12 hours, then the crew's been there like 14. That's always the thing because actors, well, it depends. Ladies come in two hours pre-call because of hair and makeup and stuff like that. Right.

ladies in Dermot because I mean well you gotta take care of number one you gotta do that I do actually side note I do remember you did not have any gray hairs and they put they took a silver sharp this was my idea by the way and I'm sorry for this I go they were like oh they're like they want him to have gray hair but like he has brown hair and I go yeah and I go why don't you just use a silver sharpie

And that's what they did. There's about three metas on this. One is that I'm

furiously driving up Silver Lake Boulevard to get home in time to get on the Zoom with you, thinking, I wonder if the silver Sharpies are going to come up. And I thought, I'm not bringing that up. Don't do it, Dean. Don't go into the silver Sharpies. So here we are. You brought it up, so it's okay. I didn't see that coming. Yeah, what would happen, of course, is right before New Girl, I would have done a job where maybe my slightly lighter than, you know,

brown hair had been dyed to be brown. Mm-hmm. Right? And so then- And it's hard to make someone's hair gray. You can't just dye someone's hair gray. It does not, it's like- No. But I remember that moment too. And I have one then on deck if we're really going deep here. Sure.

I remember thinking, oh, you know, they wanted my real hair, which would have been beautifully salt and pepper there at that age, at that time. So it even happened like at the table read. And then maybe even you were involved. Then ultimately, like some department head comes up and says, so, Dermot, we were wondering. How do you feel about silver sharpies? Showed me a picture of myself.

we'd like that one probably comes for the same price and how do we do it without completely trying to die down die out or strip or anything because then it would work as we know okay here's something that max and i laughed about a lot because we had a sharing nearing the end of the first season

One of the scenes at Russell's estate, one of the other hilarious, most hilarious, hilarious scenes is in my office. He's behind the desk and he's just, here too is the reason why I think this part is funny. And it's not a generational thing. It's almost like a sub-generational thing because I'm not that much older than the new people in the apartment. No, no.

It's the slightly older guy and like what a doink he is, right? Like the guys that we used to think are cool are just about to grow out of it. I don't know. I think that was part of the time. But his scene in that office where he smelled leather hawk feathers and something. Yeah. But it was even during and around those scenes that, gosh,

This is really an exposing type of story. I usually keep things kind of not so personal, but I had what you'd call a planter's wart on the bottom of my foot. I've been discussing this out of humor. I won't tell anybody except all the people listening. You had a planter's wart. All the hats are in the ring. And I had shared that experience with Max. And Max had just gotten over one and

you know, everybody's probably out there. Yeah. Plantar with an A, you know, or it can be excruciating. So I was limping for some of New Girl. Oh, no. I couldn't put the picture on my, out of my foot where I was having that. That's so painful. Viral. Sorry. Yeah, thanks. Thanks. Sorry you went through that. Well, this is how I read it. Table read, final episode, season one. Russell,

And Jess, in a luxurious tub, it was written that way.

I believe that, right? Oh, I've confirmed it over the years. Frankie told me. Up through the chain it goes that Dee's got kind of like a foot thing that you can't put that in the water with Dee Chanel. That's disgusting. So everybody goes, frame advance to that last scene. We're in a double king size bed for that scene now.

By the way, I remember this actually. I remember the tub seat. I don't remember the planter's word thing. I have no knowledge of that. But what I do know is that we ran out of time.

that they were like the whole day. And I was nervous because like being in a bathing suit makes me nervous in general because like it's just a whole thing. They're like, oh God, like, oh, you have to be in a bathing suit. And you know, you always find out the episode before, which is exactly one week, you know, and you're like, I don't have time to like get in shape now. Like,

Like, I can't do all the jazzercise in the world. It's not going to, like, get me there. And then anyway, so they're like, oh, you have to be in a bathtub. And I was like, oh, shit. Oh, sorry. Maybe they can bleep that out. Oh, shoot. And then I remember, and I can't remember who was directing that episode, but I remember being there. And it was on the schedule until that day. And we were going to shoot it. And then I remember them being like,

We're not going to do it. We don't have time. It's a whole thing. And that's why, because we ran out of, we ran out of time. But I can knit that little part of your history together a little better because there was another issue just as, just as fast to run a bath and throw the two actors in there.

They were not going to put my left foot in there with you. They decided not to. No, but no, it's not just as fast because everybody has to get all wet. It's like a whole thing. Hair and then dry the hair. It's the hair, the makeup, bubble placement. Bubble placement. So much bubble placement. Like, it's an issue, you know. But yeah, so don't worry. It wasn't your foot, but...

My foot disease and my hair color are, you know, that now they are part of the world. I think that Sharpie thing is actually good. That's great trivia. I've got one right here. Oh, you got a silver Sharpie. But when I have my hair over dyed, I do, I do travel. Do you do it? Yeah. And if anybody's not thinking it through, you want to store them cap down. Oh yeah. To make sure they don't dry out. Right. Right. So that you don't have to go replace them. You don't have to go to Staples for your hair product.

Yeah. So tell me, how's the cello thing going? Are you doing a lot of cello gigs? No, not so many gigs. I didn't come out of the... Studio work, a lot of studio work, right? Yeah, when everything shut down, I don't know if I'm going to... I hate to say it. A better way to put it is, I sure hope I hear from them soon so I can resume my periodic and occasional score recording. Okay.

Yeah. I've been playing on film scores for 10 years, probably two, three a year. So I've got so many scores where I'd be in the cello section. Is it a lot of solo work? No, no, by no means. In the cello section. There are real soloists out there. In fact, I can always, there's an IMDB credit on Rogue One, a Star Wars story that says German solo cello.

So I can correct that each time I'm asked if I'm a solo cellist. I'm not. That's someone else. That's a miss. That's a miss type. I was in that orchestra for two weeks straight through job. That's amazing. Yeah. To be able to be the most richest. Incredible. Almost every frame of that particular movie has music washing all over. That's Michael Giacchino, who I met on Family Stone. That's so cool.

And I played with him for years and years. So I hope that can continue. I am going to play a particular Vivaldi cello duet with Yo-Yo Ma. Wow. That's incredible. He doesn't know that yet. But you can Google it because I mentioned it to a New York Post writer. Okay. We'll keep it out there until it comes true. That's how I mean to do with that.

So question-- And I do practice that. So at home, when I'm home, I play cello. When I'm away, sometimes I travel with a guitar.

Oh, yeah. It's been a long time, but I recently added a new instrument that I love playing right now, which is an octave mandolin. I already play the mandolin. Oh, nice. Well, that makes sense. It's like an eighth version of that, one whole octave lower, so it's bigger. Oh, great. And I've been playing the cello suites, the Bach suites on that. Oh, it's a similar tuning to a cello? Yeah, it's tuned in fifths like a cello. So I play it, I transpose it and play it in a different key.

Yes. Well, that's what I...

I have, I play ukulele, I play baritone and, and then, you know, it, then, then you can just, you like have, you know, just a different key without transposing. Right. Same finger placement. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm extremely lazy. Yeah. I'm always, I, well, yeah, I know. Thank you. I'm always looking for like ways to hack things.

um, my, um, instruments so that I don't need to be like really dexterous, you know, I just, so I, I, I open tunings. I, I play around with my own open tunings that are the most efficient for, um, lazy people where you feel like putting your fingers. Yeah.

Yes, the minor six open tuning is really great if you are very lazy for a guitar. Yeah.

So did you have a band with your brothers, maybe? Is that true? Yeah. I have one brother I play with. A brother? Yeah. The violin. Violin player, yes. So we always combined with James Fernley of the Pogues, who was the accordion player. Yeah. I was in a band called the Low and Sweet Orchestra. Interscope signed us back when they had like major deals. Amazing.

Yeah. And it made a beautiful album that's hard to find because it kind of fell in between the digital crack there. Right, right, right. It's still only on a CD, I think. And the Low and Sweet Orchestra, really cool. Yeah. Acoustic. Oh, amazing. Pre- I love that. What would they be called? The-

I can't think of the name of the band, but you know, like hard acoustic music. And then in the late teens with Cranky George, us front three and Sebastian Sheehan and Brad Wood on bass and guitar. And they made also an amazing album that's out there. Cranky George is the name of that. Guys,

And there's such an awesome music career too. So make sure you check out all. I've always tried. I've always admired you so much to be able to do both. And so just, just amazing ability to that shines through in your music.

Thank you. Yeah, just keep it coming. Well, we'll do some music together sometime. Anytime, especially if you want to speak to a song in the back with a cello. I got cello ideas. We'll talk later. I have cello ideas. I love it. Did you play as a kid? Did your parents have you in –

Cello lessons or violin? Yes, very much so. It wasn't really forced on me. I started young out of fourth grade.

And played in orchestra from the very beginning. So I just saw it away and got good right away. I mean, I knew I was good. So it's something I pursued because I had a little family identity, a little who I was was like that guy. Yeah. Which really helped. Obviously, it's a cello. So what's not to like even when you're not playing it very well? It's not like a clarinet or a violin where you have to get through. It sounded hard.

cellos just sound so pretty. And even add to that, it's as comfortable, you know, you sit in a very natural position to play some of these instruments. You're like all over the place. Even a bass guitar is a huge thing that you're pressing way down the muscle of your arm. Yeah. Those are hard instruments to play. Cellos just naturally fits on the body. Yeah. So, um, and I would have picked up all those other stringed instruments because of that knowledge. Um,

And then carted around guitars to sit in the changing room waiting for my call to the set, strumming away. That's probably how you do it. It's a great way to pass the time, too. Like when you're an actor, there's just a lot of downtime. Even if you are that dumbass trying to stuff the thing in the overhead compartment and everybody's like, another frigging guitar jerk.

Even then it's worth it. I'm just looking here. Your score work, like as a cellist is very impressive. Yeah.

Mission Impossible 3, Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, Star Trek Into Darkness. I mean, this is like-- A couple of Star Treks, at least two. Planet of the Apes that Michael composed. Incredible percussion section in that studio room. Half of the room was these drums you never-- I mean, just incredible.

And if you see a list, you know, but Incredibles 2 was one of the last ones I played on. Oh, yeah. Love that movie. And so half of the studio is just packed with people of all sizes and types, just just blow and horn. Incredible experiences. So exciting in the moment that you're there.

Yeah. Nothing like being in the middle of an orchestra. It's just. That's what I'm trying to describe. It's almost impossible. You're watching the ticker. You have a clicker in your ear. You're watching a conductor, of course, and you're reading music you've never seen before in your life. Your heart is going boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And you're sitting next to the coolest cucumber in the world. In my case, it's Susan Katayama, a cellist and accordion player. Extraordinaire is my stand partner. And,

Just everybody's loosest can be, can play anything. I'm with the best players in the state, maybe the country. Well, doesn't that make you one of the best players in the state, maybe the country? By no means. In every other city, there are players, tons of players far better than me. But there's a level of proficiency that I'm more than me. I play beautifully and I can play. Well, that's very awesome. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Okay. I'm kind of the little bit of a novelty hire in those orchestras where I'm with people that are on levels well above me. I'm in a privileged invite kind of thing. I think you're being modest, but- And I'm being modest. I appreciate modesty, okay? But you know what? You're the real deal, okay? So we're going to play a game. Actually, we're going to take a little break. And when we come back from break, we're going to play a little thing called Nick's Box. Nick's Box.

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It's too hard. There's so many. Top three, top three. Top three with these different scenes that are so funny, the ones that I haven't even talked about. There's one where you're in a car. What happens out on that street? Something idiotic. Do you rear end somebody and we're shooting on the side of the studio?

I don't know. That's such a tough question. Maybe it's just discovering on day one that Zooey Deschanel's glasses didn't have any glass in them. Ha!

Well, that's a secret. Okay. Uh, well, we were giving away some of my secrets. So sorry. Okay. Well, no, here's why. And a lot of people kept saying it and I'm like, here's why, because I actually wear glasses. Right. But, um, uh, I would wear contact lenses to see, um, and it's,

It would be a whole thing, first of all, to like have to then put on glasses with my prescription. And at first we just had glasses with clear glass in them. But then even if you have them coated for, you know, for, you know, light, they turn kind of a weird blue color.

and they still reflect light. And I was constantly, I remember it was like the first episode and the RDP kept going. So we, uh, uh, chin down, chin down, chin down, chin down. And then I'm like, uh, and then I'll be a chin over, over. And I'd have to be like doing these scenes. And then they'd be like, sorry, sorry. We can see the lights reflected in your glass. And I'm like, you know what? I thought of this thing and here's how I got the, here's how I got the idea. There's this ridiculous movie called Boeing, Boeing, uh,

with Jerry Lewis and Tony Curtis. Yes. Tony Curtis is a foreign correspondent living in Paris and they have all these scenes in this newspaper office and I'm watching it and they're shooting from outside his office and there's all this like

Yeah.

And I don't want to have to, as an actor, constantly be so self-conscious that I'm like having to move my head. So I was like, let's just pop these out and see how it goes. And that's probably about episode seven. And in walks Russell looking after a kid or something that was in your class.

But really to answer your question earlier, what washed over me is just I knew when I stepped on that set that you guys were so powerful together and that this thing was working. It was on fire. And those environments I've been in more than my share, but they are elusive and you don't hit it every time.

You guys just were amazing to work with. You brought everything. You made that show better by everything that you brought to it and how much you cared and to bring it through that far and to entertain so many people. It's incredible to be a part of it and to play this awesome part that I think, you know, just really does people in a funny bone way that I still can't quite explain.

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