225: Elaine's Big Day with Zooey Deschanel
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Hey babe. Yeah babe. We got an exciting episode today. Very exciting episode today. It's very exciting. Do you want to talk about it? I do want to talk about it. We have the one that only our beloved Miss Zoe Deschanel with us today to talk about Elaine's big day. Pew pew pew. Pew pew.

uh how are you zoe i'm great i'm so happy to see you guys so here's the thing zoe we've been looking you're both looking great thank you that's just cocoa butter just want to say first off um before we get started have you have we have we talked to you about the fact that we've been trying to get taylor swift to make an appearance on this uh on this podcast because of this episode

Oh, because she's busy. I think she's busy. Just like I've heard. She's got a few things happening. I think she's gone a little bit. But I feel like if anybody could make it happen, you could make it happen. I just feel like you have that kind of pull and power. Oh, that's kind of you to think that about me. I really don't know. Like, I feel like it's...

I so here's my feeling about Taylor Swift. Like, I absolutely freaking love her. And I like never want to like ask her for any favors because I just don't ever want to be like, yeah, because she could come on. It could be horrible time for her. Like what if she has a bad experience? What if she's like, it was me at that bar in New York. Yeah.

I get it. I get it. I get it. No, no, no. I actually, no, I, I, yeah, again, I'm the worst person at asking people for favors. So, you know what? Me too. It's a really interesting thing. Isn't it such a funny thing? It's a very strange thing. I'm always just like, ah,

I don't know if I can, but maybe I could find someone who would feel comfortable because you feel like people are always being asked. It's true. Right. Exactly. And everybody has like, I, I feel like I have like very few things that would like break through that. Like, um,

Like, like the instinct to protect any, like, not, not that I'm not protecting anybody, but I'm just like, I'm just like always like, I just feel bad. I just feel bad ever asking anyone for anything. So weird. I will not ask for a big...

In fact, this is funny because when I was like a teenager, I stayed with my parents' friends when they were out of town who had like a kid my age. And I like, they, my parents just like forgot to give me lunch money for like four days or something. And I didn't ask for lunch money. So I like went and, and the dad like gave me some cookies and I just ate a cookie per day for

for lunch to like, because I didn't want to, I would refuse to ask for money. And I didn't tell my parents I needed money. I don't know why. But that's how resistant I am to asking. I feel like it's in my hard wiring.

It is like, I will not. You'd make a terrible street performer. You'd make a terrible street performer. The worst. The worst. I'm doing it for free, you guys. I'd be like, don't. Yeah. No, I would be. Yeah. No, I'm not. I'm not a busker. Yeah. By nature. But yeah. So you got the 10th best thing after Taylor Swift for this episode. Yeah.

We got the best thing. We've got the star of our show. So we're so grateful to have you here. You want to do a quick recap? You do it, Hannah. You do it. I love hearing your silky voice. Let's go. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. This is The Mess Around with Hannah and Lamorne. Today we are featuring the star of New Girl, Zooey Deschanel.

And we're off. Elaine's big day. Elaine's big day. Very, very important episode. It's Cece's big day, actually. It is her wedding day. But Schmidt is convinced that she doesn't want to go through with it. So he recruits Winston to help him sabotage the wedding. Now, they take it way too far and they release a wild badger that ends up wreaking havoc on the reception. Meanwhile, Jess and Nick are struggling to decide if they should call off their relationship.

And oh yeah, Shivrang, that sneaky little man. He might be in love with someone other than Cece. Here we go. Woo! Okay, let's jump right in. Let's jump right in. Jess is the maid of honor in this episode.

And right away in the beginning, I love this beginning opening scene because it gives you a good glimpse of what the dynamic is, especially now that your quote unquote father is here. Rob Reiner is here. Right. Yeah. I thought it was really, really funny to see every, like Schmidt's telling Winston, don't touch him. Jess really wants this picture. Nick is being told to get out of the picture completely. Yeah.

Yeah, what do we remember about this one? Rick is being asked to get out of the picture. I mean, here's the thing that's so funny is like Rob Reiner's character is supposed to hate Bob. It's supposed to like hate Nick. Yeah. But Rob like loved Jake. Like loved him. Like I feel like more than the rest.

He definitely liked us all, for sure. But I think he liked Jake the most. What do you guys think? Do you remember that? That he really liked Jake? I do remember that. I remember him. I feel like he doesn't like me. I feel like he doesn't like me. Oh, of course he... Everyone likes you, except that one lady. I was going to say, first of all, Rob was so nice to everyone. Made everybody feel so loved. Yeah, he's so nice. Yeah, he's so...

You thought he didn't like you? Well, here's why. Because I did something stupid. It's almost like how when Max and Jake thought it'd be a good idea to ask Dennis Farina really stupid, pervy questions about being a detective. And now he treated them afterwards. I decided to do a take in one of the scenes where I called him a meathead. Now that's a throwback to All in the Family. That's what he was called on the show. He looked at me.

And said, oh, do you think I've never been called that before? He goes, try again. In the scene. So he crushed me so much that I was so awkward around him. And I don't know if he felt that awkwardness. I mean, he was very nice and kind afterwards. But deep down, I feel like he's like, this guy's a hack.

No, no, no. I can't imagine him thinking that of you. I don't think so at all. I think he was like trying to like give it back. You know what I mean? Like I think he was trying to like. You're like just love me. Just love me. Just love me. Just love me. Love me.

Oh my gosh. Okay. So with this picture, apparently, so I, Zoe, I went and found the table draft of this episode and then the production draft of this episode. And as it was scripted, it was supposed to end on like this super funny picture of like Nick half out of it. Um,

Of like little like Schmidt making a weird face, you having like a great smile. And it was supposed to be this really weird thing. And I feel like it was one of those things with like alts and extra takes that would just kept going on that it ended up just being like, I'm not doing it. Everybody walked away. And it's just the dad taking a picture of his like sweet daughter.

I think you're totally right. I think we tried it that way and they might've taken a picture of us, like all kind of half at what, like Lamorne, you were in there. Uh, don't you think we probably try, I think we've pretty much tried it a few ways and that, that way that it ended up was kind of just, Oh, 100%. Ended up being the most funny. Yeah. I definitely think it was funnier that the way it ended up, uh,

for sure. Yeah, it felt like a lot of improv going back and forth and then I think they were just like that just works that feels real that they would just be like we're not doing it we're out goodbye. Yeah exactly, exactly. So we get to we get to the reception and Winston sees this badger. Zoe I'm not 100% sure if you remember this moment but the badger peed on uh

Me and also on my stand-in, Brian Crump. So that's just par for course if you have to deal with an animal, right? Because I just feel like you don't like dealing with animals. And it's like a curse of being Lamorne because you don't like it. And for some reason, they're like...

let's make Lamorne the most, like the, the character that deals with animals, like the most of all the characters. I love animals. I like never got to work with like an animal. Me too. Me too.

And it's like, are you kidding me? Like we would have loved to have those animals, but somehow just like they like basically never let me be in the dance sequences. They could have given anyone a cat. It's like the same thing. Like, hello? You're going to give me the cat? Give Hannah a cat. Give Hannah a cat. Yeah, it is true. So you got the badger that peed on you. Although I would have said no to badger. Yeah. And they had a fake one too. Tell me, what was the badger like? Why were you that close to the badger? Yeah.

Well, he was in his cage. Cage, yeah. He was in his little crate, I guess you would say. And remember in that episode where we're pushing him through the vents, at parts, some of the time it was a fake badger in there. You know what I mean? But when they would show the actual crate, they would have, you know, Bucky, the real badger in there. And I remember one time he just was like, I'm spraying. Oh, he did a lift and spray. Multiple times. Like he skunked you. Yeah.

He scumped me, essentially. That's what he did. Oh, God. Did you have to take a shower? No, but when I left the set that day, a lot of other female badgers were running up to me. You got chicks. I was like, ooh, I got these badgers everywhere. You're like, I've never had so much badger game. I know. Damn. We shot this episode partially on the Foxbot. Was it partially? Was it...

Was it down like MacArthur Park area or was it like at that hotel next door? It was a hotel next door to our studio. The hotel next door. Yeah. That hotel next door that is now like condemned. It's not. I passed by it. Holy crap. And it's like totally closed down. It was like a Hyatt or a Hilton or something. Yeah. It's gone? Very convenient for shooting at Fox. Yeah. Yeah, it's gone. Weird. Was that the same hotel from Die Hard? Yeah.

too you and i share a brain at this point it's on the same die the diehard building is down the street but yeah it it is a lot of that stuff was in die hard because that what's that tower something towers yeah willis towers

It's like Nakatomi Towers or something like that. And we would stare at it all the time when we were going into like work and like on our stage. And this episode feels like it's got a lot of diehard in it.

Like the ducks and the crawling and like the, it felt like the vibe of it. Yeah, you're so right. Crawling through like, like vents, building vents is so diehard. Nothing like crawling through building vents. I feel like they just didn't like escape it anymore. Make you recall diehard.

You know, if anybody wants to call me for an action film, I can crawl through vents. We've now seen that happen. I can get peed on by badgers. I actually think you'd be like a great action star, Lamar. Thank you.

Thank you. You really would. I've been telling you this. Like one of those like funny action movies. Can you, you can get this green lit Zoe. You just have to say okay to it. Can I? Yes. Can I produce it? Yes. I want, I want in on this cash. Yes. This little more cash. You just do your like workout. Yeah.

I'm a fitness instructor gone rogue. Oh my God, let's write this. We're doing it right now. Hannah, do you want to be in it? I will be the animal handler because I feel like I have to be the buffer. Yes, yes, yes. You could wear one of those cool outfits that they wear at the zoo. That's right. This is great. That would look cute on you. Like a jump suit. As long as I don't have to wear heels anymore, you guys, I'm in. No, no, no. You wear a sneaker. Animal trainers don't wear heels. I'll be full safari suit.

Great, great, great. Really, I mean, we're creating your next opportunity. I mean, we're all... Oh my gosh. This is incredible. I just want to produce. I want to be behind the scenes. I just want to sit there and take out. That's why I want to be a producer. I don't have to put makeup on. Yeah. Yeah. Now, let's jump back into this. You...

Hannah, you're all dolled up. You're getting ready to, well, Cece's getting ready to get married. And Jess obviously is in there kind of calming the nerves a little bit. What do you remember? What do you both remember about this particular moment? Was this on stage, this particular part? Or was this actually at that same building?

I don't know where it was shot, but I remember again, because I looked at the script and there's like this whole thing where Zoe, you were the one that's like wrapping the sari. It's like around the rabbit. Yeah, we were on stage for that. Yeah. And it was like this whole big thing. And you made like this sari joke, but not sari joke. It was all scripted, which didn't make the show.

Yeah, I think they had so much other stuff that they needed to get to. I mean, it was a packed episode. So this whole bit, but we shot it. I do remember shooting it. I remember that because they kept asking me about well, like wrapping the sari. And I've never worn a sari before, really in my life, like maybe a couple times.

like in India at something and someone else put me in it but like I've never really worn one it looks great on you it was I mean it was great super pretty didn't have it was that was the one interesting thing is like to feel like wow there's this big representation of this Indian wedding and that's so cool that I get to be part of this big moment of representation and I'm also like not the best person for it I know like the least

about it. So, but I remember that. I remember you trying to wrap the sari and the jokes that were being made. And it was like, actually a really sweet, like just CC moment, but it didn't make the cut because of all the other things that had to happen. There was a lot of Cotton Eye Joe. You're like, we need to hear it three or four times. We have to. I just remember being on set. And I remember Matt, like seeing Mac, they're like,

I was like, this is ridiculous. I was like, I can't believe we're doing this. I remember that scene, that moment. It was at the door. It was at the doorway when he's looking at you and he's singing the song. When I rewatched it last night, I went, I forgot about that moment. That is such a ridiculous delivery of a life. Ridiculous moment.

I like live for that like I live for it, but I was just like this is crazy I can't believe we're making this There's like a couple moments where like Jess comes out and like really gives it to Schmidt Right, and it's just like no like you are not messing with this girl's wedding. This is not happening get over it Yeah, it's really

And after, like, when he says, like, oh, with her eyes. She told me with her eyes, this is done. And it's rare that it happens, but it was a moment where I could see, like, you, Zoe, like, fully come through because you're, like, a solid girlfriend. And I feel like you would go real big sister on somebody in real life and be like, knock it off. This is not a joke. This is my friend's wedding. And get it together. I definitely would. Yeah. I definitely would. Also, like...

This is like the beginning of some of the redeeming they had to do later because he is dating such a lovely Merritt Weaver's character, Elizabeth. And she's like so lovely. And they had some really... I think season three, didn't they have to kind of like backtrack a bit with Schmidt? Because...

It was not cool what he was doing. No, it wasn't cool at all. And they start this episode with such a sweet like couples moment where she's like, it's a three hour ceremony. You know, your bladder gets weird. Go pee. And he like gives her a sweet look. Like that's like real deep relationship stuff when you even feel like you know how you are. You can go. And he's like, thank you for knowing how I am. They didn't even try to make her like hate, like, you know, unlikable. Right.

-They couldn't. -She's pretty generally likable. No, they can't. She's pretty likable. So, problem. That was a nice thing I think about having a female creator of your show too, where she was just like, "This is a Schmidt problem. We're not going to sit there and offload it to Cece or to Elizabeth. We're just going to keep this heat on him and he needs to sort it out." Which is really nice that by the end of the episode when we get there,

It's like you never see even one bad look between Cece and Elizabeth. They're just sort of like...

Do you have balloons that just went through your screen? There's all sorts of parties that happen on my screen and we're not sure why, but sure. Okay. Here's the thing. It must be nice because I don't think this is real life. Obviously, it's a television show, but it must be nice to be Schmidt to go, let me take my pick at which woman I want to be with at this woman's wedding. Do I want to be with you? Male perspective, male perspective. What?

like you get this choice bro at a wedding yes the woman up there standing up there i'll decide if i want to be with her or not yeah i mean i'm kind of grateful that at the end of the episode they never made it that he like picks because that would have been very gross it would have been a very weird gross moment like yeah the redemption need to happen and i think that's what yeah they kind of pushed over into the next season where he had to do some earning

Yeah, he had to do some earning. Which is cool. It's one of the things I like about this show. You know, it's like, you know, years past when we ended, like, I look back and I'm like, wow, they didn't... The writers did such a good job of, like,

Creating these fun characters that you like to see in these fun, episodic situations is very sitcom-y. But there were really serialized storylines where you were watching the characters have these arcs over seasons. And I think that is something special about the show. And I think...

And I think I love it. Oh, we all love it, too. Here's the thing. I think I love you guys. I love you more. We're going to go to commercial break. And when we come back, we're going to talk about more about how much you love us. And also about Schmidt and Winston coming together to to screw this wedding up. Prank style. We'll be right back.

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Welcome to the Cooper residence. Cooper McAllister. I'm surprised you put my name first. Come on in. From the brains behind the Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon, CBS is excited to welcome back some beloved, familiar folks. I am so glad that you and Cece are here. And Georgie. Atta girl. It's a whole new chapter. Georgie and Mandy's first marriage premieres CBS Thursday, 8, 7 central and streaming on Paramount+.

And we are back.

If you're just tuning in to this particular podcast, there is something that we do on this show that Hannah has been dropping the ball on for, I don't know, since the beginning of this show. Where's the bear? And this woman can't ever seem to find the damn bear. And this is a total myth. And she likes to keep this train going. So we're going to keep this train going. Hannah. Hi.

So you know this very well, this where's the bear bit. I'm going to say season two. I may have forgotten about it a lot and it seems like the writers got

and props and everybody else. And I'll be... And maybe it's not a real thing. There we go. There we go. It's over. Problem solved. I think this might be the last time that I ever look for the fair. Maybe this was all just a prank on me for the past couple years. Because I'll tell you what, this episode... It was, and it was created like many years before you started the podcast. Okay.

Yeah, full disclosure, for the first time ever, I didn't even look. Well, Hannah, I got a surprise for you. Oh, wait, did you see one? Did you find one? A badger is in the bear family.

I made that up, but it could be true. I was going to say, I'm so distracted by the badger. It's a tiny bear. Oh my God. It's a tiny little bear. It's a tiny little bear. So speaking of their, speaking of their pranks and animals, Chevron gets on this, Chevron gets on this,

this white horse. Is that a tradition? Is that a thing in Indian weddings? I literally just told you I'm not the most qualified person to talk to about Indian weddings. I was talking to Zoe. Oh yeah, it's a thing. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, totally. I know. Because I'm an expert. Because I've been to an Indian wedding, did not see a white horse. And I just thought it was funny that step one in their pranks was to almost kill Chevron by letting off an air horn by a horse. This is ridiculous. Yeah, that was a wild...

That was a wild prank to play to like startle a huge animal. Like that seemed like a little crazy and just reacted appropriately. Oh, in Hindu weddings. In Hindu weddings, the groom often arrives at the wedding venue on a white horse or in a white horse-drawn carriage as a part of the tradition called guri. Oh. So. I like how it's not like the bride. Like it's not like the bride.

Getting to arrive in a carriage. It's the groom. I have heard of it before. I've just never seen it. But yes, I do believe that happened. Okay, well, I...

Don't try to spook horses, guys, because it's not a nice thing to do when somebody's on the horse, because then the horse will go crazy. Oh, yeah. It was funny to watch whoever was doing the stunt just fully shrink and cower behind the head of the horse. I did see that part where we just see the feet sticking out. Oh, yeah. That was good covering. That was definitely not Satya on that horse in no way, shape, or form.

Okay. All right. Let's jump back into it. Now, Schmidt says he will call off the shenanigans, right? But then he instructs Winston to get crazy. He blows the air horn. The horse rides off like a psychopath, right? And Nick is trying to do the right thing because he hears about his relationship, which is very sweet. He tries. He tries. But Jess doesn't.

Believe him because Cotton Eye Joe starts to play. And the prank is too good. It actually has to make some sense out of it. This is one of the crazier storylines. Let's take a macro view. Crazy storyline. Okay, back. To duct tape the soundboard. She's like, that is an intelligent move and you're the smartest prankster there is. It had to be you. Then that's how he kind of gets done for. One of the things I'm just wondering, like what did the...

Like the writer of Cotton Eye Joe, like think of this. They're like, I never thought my song would like inspire an entire episode, like a 21 minutes of television. Yeah. And also now people who are big fans of the show, like this is like a song they play at their weddings now.

Cotton Eye Joe gets played at weddings now because of this episode. Should I play it at my wedding? Come on now. Should it be my wedding? Should I walk down the aisle to Cotton Eye Joe? It's Cotton Eye Joe and what's the thing that we- The chicken dance. The chicken dance. Season one. Bill Collins groovy kind of love, right? Yeah. Look at New Girl. The really slow version. New Girl, all up in your wedding.

If you try to pull that prank, it's always wedding, Lamorne. You? If you bring a badger to my wedding, I'm going to freak out. Well, let's talk about it for a second. Let's talk about it for a second. Okay. All right. What are you feeling? A badger at a wedding, not really a bad idea, right? Because it's a cool looking pet. Okay. Tell me why. People can pet it. Okay. People can walk. People can take selfies with the badger, right? Okay. Yeah.

The problem I think. Tell me more. The problem is when you decide. I want like 10. I got your 10 right now. Yeah, tell me. 10 reasons why. Okay, okay. Badger's cute. 10 reasons why. Badger's cute. Okay. If a badger pees on you, then other like lady badgers will come and like be attracted to you. I would just like to say I'm kind of still stuck on the fact that you shared earlier that the badger peed on you, you didn't take a shower, and then you were like just like back at work. And then what you do is you multiply that.

you know and then you got 10 okay so a weak case a weak case for the badger at zoe's wedding no badger at my wedding maybe not a badger at your wedding maybe not your badger at your wedding okay but in this particular case you again in typical new girl fashion you know that these characters are idiots um so winston would do something like that yes he would go into the ducts

and proceed to try to sabotage this wedding, which is exactly what happened. - Sabo, sabo the wedding. - Now, Nick tells Winston,

that the plan cannot be that thing. You cannot drop a badger on a priest. And, you know, Schmidt then goes back. He tells Jess that Nick wasn't in on it and that Jess, Nick was saying that Jess means so much to me, yada, yada, yada. And that causes, you know, a little bit of a romantic moment between Nick and Jess again, right? Like a little, let's forgive each other moment for this. Why would you think this of me? Why do you think I'm a child, et cetera, et cetera.

My dad said so. Yeah. There was like a really sweet moment when you guys were kind of having that in that two shot where you guys were like head to head and he's just like really pushing for the answer. And then, you know, like Jess is going through a bit of distress. She's like trapped in a duck. There's a badger on the loose. Her best friend's trying to get married. And this guy's like, let's have a real, which wouldn't stress me out, but it's just to sit there and be like, you know, like to have this big relationship. Yeah.

Like in that moment, like I was just like, read the room, literally, buddy. And then for you to, you just answered honestly. And like he couldn't handle the honesty. It didn't mean that, you know, the character didn't want to be with the other character. You're just answering the question. And I thought pretty gently. Then a very sensitive male ego just was like, I guess, yeah.

We're not that. That's how you feel. We have to have some conflict in the middle of the episode, you know? Yeah, sure. I just was like, wow, it was such a small thing. But then it makes you think about like so many relationships do end over just like tiny, small. Something really weird. It's so true. It's so true. I'm just remembering now that the first episode of season three, I'm still wearing this sari. And I'm like.

I mean, I don't mean to skip ahead, but like I just had this flashback that like they were like, so you have to wear the sari again. Only you've turned it into like beach wear. They shredded it basically. You were in like this. It was shredded. Yeah, it was like a short skirt. Yeah, shipwreck. I had to get a tan and like some like.

beachy hair kind of yeah and we shot it down in marina del rey i remember that little weird strip of beach that we shot it in that beginning of season three in the same outfit where you guys kind of like at the jamaica inn i think the place was gone i remember that location we're like wow we're back and this is where we're starting

We didn't start like in the loft. It was like this real, it was a really weird feeling where this, this season ended us. And then, yeah, where we had to start. Yeah. Do you remember getting like fitted for that? Sorry. Did you have to go down to our show or did they bring it all up to the.

no they brought it up to me but I was because I think I had it was like less involved than your situation which was quite involved because you're a bride um but I was obsessed with the color of my sari like I loved it it was so pretty yeah it was really beautiful I never get to wear those on these shows I never get to wear a sari on on

You never do? Yeah. Not even once? Like y'all want to play with pets and stuff like that. And they always put that on me. But when it comes to saris, I never get to wear them. And you wanted to wear saris. Sorry. Sorry.

Well, I think what's cool about this episode is that it starts with one person that Schmidt obviously sees a little bit of doubt in Cece's eyes, which sets off a chain of events, which activates Winston, which then activates Nick, which then somehow ends up with Jess also in the ducts. And it starts with one idea of a person looking in someone's eyes, and it ends with

a collapse of the ceiling onto the top of the wedding with all parties involved. - A collapse of the entire inner ducting system of a hotel. - Yes. - I also love that, just like that female approach of just like, you know what, I'm going up to the ducks.

It was just such a full, I don't know, mom moment of like, you know what? Forget it. I'll handle it. I'm going to put everybody straight and figure this whole thing out, which is why the hard truth of it is it's Jess that falls down and collapses. And another great moment from Monica Brondre, my stunt double. Yep. Yes. And what's cool about it is that it ends up

Yeah. Because what because of this, I'm not 100. If this didn't happen, I'm not sure, you know, you know, Chevrang then steps up and says, OK, I'm not feeling it either. Because this big collapse allows everyone to fully be themselves and just be honest and go, hey, listen, maybe this wedding isn't for us. And, you know, you say I'm in love with someone else. And then he says, so am I. And I think had that roof not collapsed, that wouldn't have happened. Right.

Yeah. I loved it. Taylor Swift was just there. She just, she was just in the area. She was doing a meeting at Fox. She was just doing a meeting at Fox. So, you know, what's funny is that, um, uh, a lot of people brought this up because, um,

you know, spoiler alert, Taylor Swift runs off with she brings. And a bunch of people have said like, cause Jess is a Swifty and we've established, we established that at least later in the, in the show.

Um, also, uh, I'm a Swifty too. Um, just so you guys know, um, we all are, we're Swifties, we're a Swifty family. Um, but, um, uh, a lot of people brought up, they were like, but wait,

It's like Elaine, different from Taylor Swift. Like, how is Jess like a fan of Taylor Swift? But like Elaine, like, is Taylor Swift? Like, is it Taylor Swift? I was like, it's a really good point. I think Elaine is like that. There's like a woman who's like a doppelganger for Taylor Swift. Yeah, it's like a long lost twin, something. And I think that's Elaine. Yeah. Don't you think? Yeah. That's the only explanation. Because otherwise the whole place would have gone up.

None of it works. But she's played by Taylor Swift in this show. You ever hear of the Mandela effect?

It's when you think something happened. The Mandela effect is when someone thinks something happened. Like the general consensus, you know, that the whole population thinks that there is this thing that was on a cereal box, for example. But then you look back, it was never the case. We just for some reason had that idea in our mind. Oh, like Kazam or whatever? Yeah, like that. You know what I mean? Starring Sinbad? Yeah, but it's like that wasn't a thing. You know about that? Yes, I remember that. Right. I thought...

I know it happened. Right. I'm sure I love this movie. Yeah. And in this episode. There's no movie? No. There's no movie named Kazam starts in that. Why do I think that there is? We all know it happened, but it didn't. So in this one, I had a full Mandela effect moment when I was rewatching it. Shivrang picks up

you know, Taylor Swift and runs out of the wedding with her. In my mind, it was the other way around. It's because that take happened. That take, I talked to Satya about this. So we had Satya on a loft meeting and I asked him about it. And we talked about it because that take did happen. They did it, you know, whatever, five, six times this way. And then I think it's like a funny pitch. They did it the other way around.

where Taylor picked up Setia and ran out and I think we all fell out because it was very easy for her to do and we all laughed Taylor is tall like she's

She's like 5'10 or something and he's not super tall, right? And so it was very easy and they thought it was super funny and they fell out laughing. And I just think it was one of those moments where everybody in the room just like laughed. So you remember it because it was cute. So that's right. I think all of us, but Satya thought it happened like that. Him and I were talking about it and he's like, oh my God, when she like carried me out, like that was like the greatest moment. And when I rewatched it, I was like, oh my God, it didn't make the cut. Like it

It went with another take. But I think we all remember it because it did happen. I'm like the same bad thing. But okay, you guys, do you know that I remember like very well? Because she wasn't on set very long. And she just basically like came in and did that little scene. But I just wanted to share that like she...

came in and was in the hair makeup trailer and they had me, this is just classic because when Prince was on, I was also like baby, like not babysitting, but they were like, be like the host of the set and go or hostess of the set and go and like greet them. And everybody was like,

do that with Prince. Like, go be the hostess and like sit and, you know, hang out with Prince. And so when Taylor was there, everyone was like, Zoe, go sit in the makeup trailer with her. And my makeup artist, Georgie, ended up, she was like, oh yeah, I'm totally cool using Zoe's makeup artist. So Georgie,

did her makeup and she was like first of all like taylor swift like i if anyone ever says anything mean about her i'm so mad because she is such a nice person she is so cool um i've never seen her be anything but like absolutely so lovely and found earth and she was like

She really liked my, like, the, like, lipstick that I wore. And she... It was, like, Benetint. You know Benetint? It's just, like, the most old-fashioned lip tint that's been around forever. And we had that, like, Benetint. And she...

You go get some, you go, it will look good on you. And we had one for her. And I remember like Georgie gave it to her and she was like, Oh my God, thank you so much. And I was like, Oh my God, that's cool. Like Taylor Swift was like excited to just get like this little thing of benefit. Like she was,

unbelievably nice. So like, let's set the record straight. The Taylor is awesome. And everything that you imagine her to be that you hope she is, she is, you know, it's really funny. I remember that. I remember Georgie coming out and almost feeling like a little like, like shocked.

She was like, she, I think there was like this expect or, you know, just this thought that she was probably going to come with her entire own team, have a whole set of like handlers and a whole thing. And she didn't. She came in, she's like. I think she had maybe her hairdresser, but she had like, Georgie did her makeup or she came with her hair done or something. Yeah. Yeah. She was had like, I don't think she had even like, she might've had like one person with her, but she was very, very.

very down to earth, no entourage, like not very chill. Yeah. I remember that too. I remember just like the chat around set being like, Oh, she's just like the most easy, lovely human, everything you hope her to be. She is exactly that.

So true. Yeah, I remember that feeling too. And Seth, they shared all of his stories because they would, because at that thing, when they run out down the aisle and, you know, the scenes carries on, like you and I had that conversation, which is super sweet. And that happens. And so they had to like be behind the door now and just like wait until, you know, Jake Kazan called cut. So he's like, they would just be back there. And he said it was so sweet because she'd be like,

really good did you like that i thought that was really fun i think this was great and he was just saying how like sweet it was that they had just like this little like kind of just like just actors bonding in a moment after a take waiting for the scene to be done having a moment

Yeah. That's so sweet. I love hearing that. Yeah. I also forgot like how sweet that moment was between our characters at the end. I forgot about that whole little exchange and it's such a sweet, like just CC moment. And there's so many moments and little like looks in between. And it just made me realize how much I miss acting with you. Cause it was like such a sweet. I miss acting with you guys so much. I like have to say it's like one of those things. It's like,

you, your show ends and you're like, okay, well, I guess it's like another chapter like over, but it's like, you guys are like my family. Like I got to act with you every day. Like I love seeing you. I love getting to work with you. And so it was like,

That was, like, the saddest thing for me. I mean, just not getting to be with, like, my buddies. I saw you guys more than my family, really. Like, you really were, like, I mean, you still are family to me, but, like, I consider, like, the core cast of New Girl to be, like,

100% my extended fans. Yeah. Like, you guys really are. Max coming into this had done a lot of, you know, recurse guest stars, you know, a bunch of, he had done a bunch of television. Oh, yeah. And he told me, he goes, in the final season, he goes, it's not always going to be like this. I remember him telling you that too. Yeah. He was like, this is a very different, very special type of deal. It's not always like this.

And you go on and you do however many shows afterwards and you look back and you go, damn, we had it pretty good, didn't we? Yeah. We had it pretty good. I know. But so let's close out this episode. There's two things that are happening here. One, Schmidt has to choose between Cece and Elizabeth. I thought that was, we talked, we touched on it a little bit before about how ridiculous it is. He gets a choice.

He literally runs away, right? He literally runs away. I think though, but that's like as writers, they had no, like, again, if he made a choice, I think that it would not have been like, I don't think the fans would have responded well to it. I don't think that like empowers the women in the scene. I think that would have been weird. I will tell you what, I remember that because they had me kind of just doing like busy work, right? When then I kind of walk over.

and be like, yeah, she's right. Like you got to figure this out. You got to choose who you want to be with. This isn't fair, but I'll never forget doing this busy work. And there was a bunch of background actors, all Indian. And I remember one of them saying to me, um,

They said to me, you know, this is so exciting for us to have so many Indians like, you know, on a show like this. This feels so important. This is so wonderful. You know, even though you're not Indian, like, it's OK, we accept you as one of our own. And I was like, and it was one of those moments, you know, when you're so caught off guard. I just said, thank you.

Like I didn't like even have the words to be like, I'm, I'm, you didn't correct that. I'm half felt complicated in that moment. Well, like they were literally, they were just like, they're like rolling. And this person like says the thing. And I was just like,

I was so happy to be of service, you know, and I was, you know, and then it was like shuffled and moved. And then we moved into like the stuff that I was doing with like, you know, Schmidt and Elizabeth, but I'll never forget that moment where I was like, I know I am. It's, this is an authentic casting moment. I am. This is why this is an Indian wedding because of the actress they cast in this role. It wouldn't be this otherwise that would feel weird. That moment always stuck with me where they're just like, we all accept you as our own.

Because this is such a powerful moment for mainstream sitcom TV for Indians. So thank you for just looking like you do. Oh my God, that's so funny. You're very welcome. And to...

And another cool moment, there's always this back and forth between Nick and Jess. And I remember I had this conversation with Hannah on a previous episode where I was so confused. I was like, where are we in the Nick and Jess saga? Because... I'm confused too. I was like, what? And then again, I had that moment rewatching it and I was like, oh, wait a minute. Okay. I think I'm caught up to where we are right now in the will they, won't they, are they, are they not? Right.

But it was a cool moment. What do you remember about that moment at the final little, I guess, back and forth before you all drive off together? Yeah, that was so sweet. Your speech is so sweet and heartfelt. I'm trying to think what I remember about it. I do remember being like, wait, what? We're doing what? I think, you know what? I think they had to...

Like it was kind of a strategic move because it's like, obviously that relationship was so important and they don't want to like completely just like,

Like there has to be this like tension between like, there has to be like problems because otherwise, like if it just like you put them together too early and they're just happy, then like you kind of, you don't want to spend that like tension too early. Like, like it's only season two. So I think that, but there has to be that genuine stuff and really like,

Truly like the Jess and Nick, like Jess and Nick so genuinely do like love each other. And like, I also just like loved working with Jake. Like I found like, even though like he's so funny and he can be so silly and all that stuff, but like just he can, he really, it's, it's, it's wonderful playing those like very sincere moments with him. So like,

I really enjoyed like that, that relationship was just, it was a gift. I think like that getting to play the Nick and Jess storyline over that long was so amazing. And I think this was like, you know, a great moment in that, in that relationship. And then also just like,

The fact that like we kind of it was a real kind of cliffhanger. We don't know. Right. Like, what are they going to do? Yeah, I mean, I thought it was great. I was just gonna say, like, I looked at that again, I look back at those scripts, and there was a whole scene where Nick runs into Rob Reiner on the way out.

And they kind of like hash it out. And Nick shares like his, like, well, okay, I might be all these things, but I'm all these other great things too. And he kind of gets lost in the sauce, like typical, like Nick Miller style. And then Rob Reiner's character goes like, I think what you're trying to say is you're going after my daughter. Like you better go. Cause she's leaving. So there was that big thing. And then I feel like in the table draft version, there was, um, it was Nick that came out with the speech of wanting to uncall it.

And then, you know, like you say it too. And none of those things ended up what we, you know, ended up, we maybe they shot that Rob Reiner thing because that was in the production draft. But yeah.

how they flipped it at the end. And this is just, I mean, you're really incredible in that scene because all that other stuff that they've done to kind of lead up to the uncall it moment disappeared. So you just had to in this, like, you know, cause they only had 21 minutes in this very short space, do that flip and just,

sell it with like heart and emotion. And it was, it's really beautiful and really sweet. And you really, like you just said, feels like, oh, this is like a real relationship. Now they have like real bumps. They have their doubts. They're still going to try to go for it because you can see how much they want it. But it was like, you had to do a lot of work in a very short space, you know? You know, I really appreciate that. And one thing I do love about like our editors was that they, instead of like picking the like,

I do feel like when Push came to Chauvin, we had, like, this short time to fill, you know, a short time to, like, tell the whole story, that they would always, they would choose the genuine moments, you know, rather than the, like, you know, exposition that wasn't important or, you know, a crazy, silly moment or something, that they would, like, go for that part, which is so nice. It was, like, always kind of what made the, you know, the show kind of, it's

special blend of things. Yeah, that's right. What you just said is so funny. I just got goosebumps when you were talking about it. Just because it's, they could have done that whole thing with Nick and the dad and the whatever. And they're just giving you the like, uncall it, uncall it. And then they kiss at the car. But instead they gave you that little bit of extra room to like breathe and to like to show your eyes and to have that moment of connection of all the unsaid things and do that instead, which is what I think was the magic of the show.

But having them be wise enough to make those choices too. But that's only because they had to choose from and that was you doing it. Thank you. We love you guys. And on that note, we'll be right back.

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Yeah, you're screwing up. How'd you miss that one? You know why? Because here's when I tell you where my brain went is that two things I thought that maybe it's important to say to our listeners is one, this character of Elizabeth is named after Elizabeth Merriweather. One. Two, Elaine's big day is a big reference to The Graduate.

And their big, big, big wedding moment that obviously happens at the end of The Graduate. And then Elizabeth Merriweather, I read in this interview, was talking about how she just thought instead of like Schmidt having this big graduate moment of being like, Cece, you're for me, of actually having like Shabrang have somebody go like, you're for me.

And like this funny moment to happen that actually kind of derails the wedding as opposed to having a big graduate moment. But they still kept the nod in there with calling Taylor Swift's character Elaine. Aw, I never knew that. Here you go. I never knew that. So for the mess around, we're just going to answer one of these questions. OK. And I think we may have talked about this before at some point.

Have either of you ever done a prank that was too big or have had one done on you? I know I have. I have. Yeah. Okay. You've done one or you've had one happen to you? Yeah. Uh-oh. I've done one. Let's hear it. I mean, I participated in it. I participated in it. What was the prank? Let's hear about it. Um...

I don't even know if I should. It's really like, like where, you know, where you do something, you think it's funny and then the person takes it way too seriously. Yeah. Yeah. No, just my friend was trying to scare his other friend, like as a joke and like, like

put like some like little like hand-drawn signs on his car like like pretending to be stalking him or something and we were like haha we made these little signs but they were like so i felt like so obviously like fake but the friend got like so upset that he like put camera yeah and then i was like oh my gosh abort mission this is not cool like he's scared but then he was like

He didn't want to tell his friend because he was worried he would be so mad at him, which he probably was. Did they ever find out or he just thought the stalker went away? I don't know because I haven't seen these people in years. This was a college age kind of deal. Yeah, that was a back away. I was like...

I was like, let's put Tic Tacs on this car. Like, I don't know. I was like, we were like, yeah, it was really bad. Like in that the person like got like actually nervous about it.

What we what should have happened was that it should have been disclosed that there was like a group of people Playing a prank right, but it wasn't disclosed. No, but wasn't my friend. So like, you know, I participate I feel bad about it. So sorry God Now has a complex this person now has 50 security What about you

Oh my gosh, have I ever done a prank? I honestly, I... Or had one done on you. I'm trying to think.

They never, I think Zoe and I are built a little bit similarly in the sense that I immediately just have to confess the thing. Like I can't keep, I can't have one person not be in on it. So I very quickly got like excluded from like any like prank committees because I just felt like too weird, too bad. I don't like someone feeling left out of the thing. I don't like like,

So I've only ever done like, I am like the queen of like fun surprises for people, you know, like. I like surprising people. Fun surprises. Yeah. Like I can do those all day long, all the lies and the layers of the things and showing up and like, but that's all like happiness. But I've never, I get too, I get too nervous that somebody is going to take it wrong. And then I'm like in apology mode. So.

So I know I felt really bad about that thing, but it wasn't really my friend. So I couldn't apologize to them. So actually put me in a really weird position where I was like, I'm never participating. I'm never participating in a prank again. Yeah, I get that feeling. I feel like somebody tried. I can't remember what it was. I think I was young. Someone tried to rope me into something. And I just remember like this made me feel sick to my stomach. I feel like pranks are.

Just like never do a George Clooney movie then, right? Because isn't he like prank everybody? He's notorious for that. Like very elaborate ones, apparently. Elaborate pranks? He gave his friend Richard Kind a... Apparently George found a piece of artwork in a dump, like in a trash bin or something, and had it fixed up and framed. And for Richard's birthday, gave it to him and told him it was this really expensive piece.

like piece of art and he had it hanging over his mantle in his house for years. And it wasn't, I forget how long it was, but apparently it was like over like a decade until he told him that it wasn't. How is that a prank? No, you're just like, that's just poking people. You're just punking people.

For your amusement. So recently, I'm supposed to be doing this show with Nick Cage called Spider Noir. And my manager reached out and said, hey, so Nick wants to have dinner with you.

And I got so nervous because I thought, well, I already have the job, but is this one of those like tests? Because I heard he's a very like extravagant guy. And, you know, we see him on camera. He's so big and he makes big, bold choices.

I was like, oh my God, I got to like really like focus up for this meeting. Now, simultaneously, I just got that Emmy nomination like two days prior. So I was super like, you know, impressed. I mean, you know how it goes. Like you have to do all these interviews and things like that. So you're like super full of yourself. I was speaking in the third person. I was like, Lamorne's not going to meet with Nick right now.

- But then alternately like the royal we. - Yeah, you know what I mean? - You're like, we might. - Yes. But I was so nervous about meeting him and my anxiety levels for some reason just started like going through the roof and I was freaking out about it. Now day of, I get a text from Eric Andre and he says, "Hey man, doors open at 7:30, you can get there around eight." And I went, "What are you talking about?" And he says, "My show, you agreed to do my show."

And two months prior, I had said I would do his show, but no one from his side confirmed that it was ever happening. So it wasn't in my calendar or anything. But it's the same time as Nick's, the dinner with Nick. I was so like pissed at Eric. And he was like, bro, you can't bail on me. If you don't show up, it's a live show, then there is no show. You have to show up. It's a thousand people there. I was like, oh my God. So my manager was like, don't worry about it. We're going to call Sony. We're going to try to figure this out. And she's panicking. And

And next thing you know, she's like, don't worry about it. Nick said it's okay. Nick said he lives right down the street from the spot that you're going to have dinner and drinks at. And he'll come watch your set. Well, he goes, well, she goes, he was like, just call him when you're done with your set. And then you, and then he'll meet up with you. And I was like, okay, thank God.

I go to Eric's show. Of course, it's Eric Andre. So it's a crazy, obscene, stupid show. Really funny, but stupid, where he made me chug a beer, chug a Red Bull and eat ghost pepper hot sauce, which I didn't think it was he was going to actually do that. I thought it was like a fake thing. So I tasted a good amount of it and my mouth was on fire.

And that he's got the whole crowd throwing stuff at me. It was a shit show. I'm sweating. I'm like covered in like hot sauce and my mouth is burning. I rush over to the dinner with Nick. I get to this restaurant and I'm like freaking out. I'm like, do I smell bad? I'm sure I look like I look crazy. I go in. I say, I'm here to meet with Nick Cage. And she goes, oh, right this way.

She takes me around the corner and there are eight people sitting at a table all wearing Nick Cage masks. And they go, surprise. And it was my friends and my manager all pretending to be Nick Cage. They thought this was a great idea. So for like a week, my anxiety was through the roof. I was so pissed. I turned around and walked off. I just turned around and left. Oh my God. Yeah. So that just happened to me. This is why Frank goes so wrong.

I know. That went wrong. It went terribly wrong. We'd like to celebrate you and your Emmy nomination and you're like, I now am in deep therapy. Can I just tell you, Hannah and I would never do that to you. Thank you. This is why I think pranks leave. We would never do that. They leave. It would never even occur to me. Just so boy. I feel like boys are usually. Also, I would blow it. I'd be like, I'd talk to you, I'd be like, can you work with this? And I'm like,

Or also if you're like, oh my God, I'm in this huge conundrum with the Nick Cage meeting and I'm stressed and I've got to do the show. Don't worry. Chill out. It's okay. Just relax. But also, I would have wanted to have saved you from that Eric Andre show. Oh my gosh. That was like, I'm sorry. I love him. That was not the day for me to do it. He gave us a read for your part, maybe? I think he read for Winston, yeah. Or for Coach, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm...

Coach, coach, coach. Yeah, he read for coach or maybe Winston once coach was off. I know he came in and I know I saw a tape

And I know he was good, but he was not Wilmore and Morris. So there you go. Shout out to Eric Andre, the world's craziest man. He's also nominated for two Emmys this year. Is he really? He got my vote. Two? Yeah, for his show. For his Eric Andre show and then won, I think, best variety talk show host or something like that. He is also one of the loveliest humans.

in the world. He's so sweet. He seems very nice. He was in Trolls 3 with me. It was very nice. Which my daughter loves, by the way. Thank you all for listening to another episode of The Mess Around. Thank you to Zoe Deschanel for being here. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course. Make sure you follow us on IG at The Mess Around Pod. Send in all your emails, all your questions, all your concerns. Hannah will be checking them daily. Yeah.

and go get our merch don't do pranks that are too big yes love you guys love you guys peace bye that was The Mess Around this has been an iHeartMedia production our executive producer is Joelle Monique our engineer and editor is Mia Taylor additional production from Daniel Goodman Wendy Heisler and Kyle Chevron our theme song was written and composed by Ronald Jukebox Jackson so we're gonna catch ya next time

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