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Making America SAFE Again ft. Chris Pavlovski, Michael Knowles, Anne Fundner, and Madeline Brame

Publish Date: 2024/7/17
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With us right now is one of the most important voices in tech and an entrepreneur who I have such great respect for and a great friend, Chris Pavlosky. Chris, how you doing, man? Charlie, thanks for having me. He runs Rumble, rumble.com and the Rumble app. We love Rumble. We are live on Rumble many, many hours a day. I think we might stream close to as many hours as anybody on the platform every day.

You guys are on like, yeah, you're right, like at least three, four hours every day. And then sometimes on Thursday nights. Another three or four hours. Another three or four hours. And we do evenings. I mean, just in the last week, we have done 26 hours on Rumble. That's incredible. We love that. We want more, too. Keep it coming. Rumble is the future. Give us an update and also just a little bit of a back story about this remarkable company that you have founded that has become a multibillion-dollar juggernaut.

Yeah, so I've been in the business for two decades now. It was around 2013 when we started Rumble, late 2013. And it was based simply on the premise of helping the small creator getting the distribution and monetization that they weren't getting on the incumbent platforms. We started to notice that YouTube and all these other platforms were starting to preference big influencers, influencers.

Big creators, brands, corporations. And then we started Rumble on the premise of kind of helping the small guy, our friends, family, aunts and uncle. Fast forward six years, summer of 2020, I get a call from the ranking member of the U.S. House Intel Committee, Congressman Devin Nunes. And he asks me a really simple question. He's like, Chris, if I bring my podcast to Rumble and people search for my name, am I...

am I going to find it? And I'm like, yeah, thinking I was under some kind of a investigation. Exactly. And so he brings his podcast to rumble within two to three months. He has two to 300,000 subscribers. Whereas in his district in California, he's a,

An elected representative in California, he's got in his district advertising his YouTube channel for four years, and he only accumulated in four years 10,000 subscribers, whereas on Rumble, in two to three months, he had two to 300,000 subscribers. Call that censorship. Call that shadow banning. Call it whatever you like.

Fast forward, you know, six, seven months past that, Dan Bongino ends up joining and investing. And then actually in April of 2021, I think it was you and J.D. Vance that came in as first investors in Rumble. So thank you for that, by the way. Thank you for recognizing that. Thank you.

I've said I've invested in Rumble before, but yeah, we were right there in the first round. Yeah, it was... Big believers. Yeah, you've been there from the very beginning. The first crew to come in to help invest in Rumble. You guys kind of saw it early on. So thank you for that. So then...

Post that, we had by late 2022, we went public on the Nasdaq under ticker RUM with a multi-billion dollar valuation. And now we're here at the RNC in Milwaukee. You have Russell Brand now. You're the biggest names in media. How did you do that? You know what? What happened?

What ended up happening in the last four years is that, and you know this better than anybody else, is that authenticity is something people are seeking. And you can't be authentic on any of the other platforms right now. So back in 2021, it was just us. If you had an opinion on COVID, if you had an opinion on the elections, and it didn't go with the narrative of the incumbent platforms, they were going to shadow ban you. They were going to demonetize you or take you out. So it was just us.

and we had a lot of creators, including yourself, Russell Brand, Dan Bongino, all kind of move over to Rumble during those years. And, you know, as we get closer to today, we have, you know, True Social now. We have X. We have a lot of platforms. Yeah, talk about the cloud that you guys are building as well. So, obviously, in order to be able to defend against the...

relentless attacks from the corporate media, relentless attacks from big tech. We need to be able to have our own infrastructure. You cannot survive right now on in this environment if you do not own your own infrastructure. So when you guys came in, one of the things that I spoke to to you and to JD was that we need to have our own infrastructure. So we built that quick

quickly and fast starting in 2021. And we launched that public cloud to the rest of the world here in 2024. We have customers like Trump Media and Technology Group using the cloud. We have Timcast using our cloud. We have a lot of different companies now using that cloud. So that's been a very important piece to the puzzle because you can't have authentic speech if you're sitting on any of the incumbent technology.

And so the movement of Rumble right now in an election year is very important because in 2020, we saw widespread censorship and you guys were not a player.

You guys are not a political company. You are a free speech platform. But, for example, if the Intel agency showed up and said you must censor Charlie Kirk, what would you say to that? And that's not a hypothetical, actually. So what we've actually had happen, this is the most ironic. I'll tell you something very ironic. But we have governments from around the world asking to remove creators worldwide.

all the time. And our response... Hold on, hold on. This is new to our news. What do you mean? So governments are coming to you to say... Can you give an example of a creator? Okay, so let's start with France, for example. Who just was heckling me. So France came to us to remove RT. This was a couple of years ago. Russian television. Russian television, a whole bunch of other Russian channels.

And we basically said, go pound sand. They're not violating our policies. We're not going to comply with your request to remove someone just because you don't like them. So we told them to go pound sand. And the most ironic thing is that the Russian government comes to request to remove content on Rumble. In Russia? The Russian government. On Rumble. Generally, on the whole platform. Is it different by country or no?

It's every country has different requests. So the Russian government said, hey, we didn't like this channel, this channel, that channel. So if I open up Rumble in Moscow, it's the same as if it's in San Francisco. We are now blocked in Russia. Okay. Ironically. So we allowed our team to. So you can't be accused of being a Russian agent. No, no. And the crazy part here is that guess who's operating in Russia right now and who's complying? They must be complying. You too. Wow. That means that they're doing what the Russian government wants them to do then. Correct.

That's fascinating. It is fascinating. So you do not bend a knee to any government that says you must remove a creator. Our policy is to stick to our policy and within the bounds of the law of the United States. We are not a Chinese company. We are not a French company. We are not...

A Brazilian company. Yes. We are an American company. And those are the rules that we're going to stick to. And that's how we're going to run this company. The big problem that happened with big tech is that every tech company ends up complying to other governments. And they're no longer an American company. They become a globalist company, a nationals company that's complying and taking orders from other governments that don't have the same values that we have.

And that takes a lot of courage because your life would conceivably be easier if you kind of colluded with the government, wouldn't it? It'd be much easier if you if we want to operate in China, we would do everything that China wants us to do. Is YouTube a lot in China anymore or no? I'm unsure.

I think they have their own thing. Yeah, I'm not very familiar with the Chinese market, but I think it's Weibo that's very popular there. But when it comes to another foreign country asking us to censor creators like yourself or anyone else on the platform that doesn't violate, our answer is go pound sand. Get out of here. We don't care. And so for you, this is a deeply held belief based on principle, right?

Because, and your first responsibility is the fiduciary of your shareholders, myself included, right? But through that, though, is a principle of your policy, which is that as a company, we believe free speech is paramount. Absolutely. Like, freedom of expression, free speech is paramount.

built from the ground up at rumble. Every employee believes in it. Everybody in our, our entire spectrum of our company believes in it. We sold that to our shareholders. That's what we're going to be. Yes. That's why I invest in, in, we must,

always be that now in addition to that and i think people forget that free speech is not only is it the first amendment but it is a human right yes you don't have movements across the country civil rights movements women's rights movements without freedom of expression you cannot be a fully human person but freedom of speech really quick chris uh can you tell our audience calls to action what to download what to look for what are you guys rolling out here it's

So, you know, we have Rumble where creators can go and live stream. We just launched Rumble Studio. So download the Rumble app. Definitely download the Rumble app. Download the Rumble Studio app if you're a creator and you want to go live and make money. We use it all the time. And do live reads from the studio.

If you're interested in cloud, go to rumble.cloud. And if you're interested in using our advertising, if you want to advertise with us or you want to – if you're a publisher and need ads, you can go to rumbleads.com. You have been awesome to work with. This is such an exciting company. I think we're at the dawn of Rumble. I think that there is a – I fully agree. A 50 to 100 times X growth –

curve that could occur because right now the environment is ready for major disruptions in the space and i think the rest of the country is starting to wake up to it and i i see this broadening we just had a record according to stream charts in terms of live streamers just the last couple weeks so i think this is it i think we hit our record uh at the trump assassination attempt we had 240 000 concurrence on rumble wow wow that that's when you put the all-time record

The all-time record for all... Or Crowder? No, I think it's... Sneako or something? Andrew Tate. Oh, probably, yeah. When he came back for the first time. It was like 1.2 million or something, probably? It was 400 and something thousand. So I'm not... I wasn't far. You know, you're... Listen, Rumble's record, like, collectively, according to stream charts, is just over 700,000. So, like, having 200,000, that doesn't happen on the internet, like, at all. Really quick here, Chris. So download the Rumble app. What are the other calls to action?

If you're looking for cloud, you go to Rumble.cloud. If you're looking to advertise or you have a website that you want to monetize, go to RumbleAds.com. And also, Real America's Voice, you're working hand-in-hand, it seems. Real America's Voice is streaming a lot of content there. They just brought on Weather Nation. Isn't that awesome? So if you want to watch these shows and you want to watch them on the big screen, we're across all the different TV apps, including we just launched on Xbox. That should be out very shortly as well.

So you can sit on your couch and you can watch real America's voice right from your couch now. And you don't need to do it on your phone all the time. I am so excited about the future of rumble and I'm honored to be part of it. I was like kind of an initial. No, Charlie, you've, you've been one of the first believers in rumble. You were one of the first people to come over. And, uh, I, I don't think people appreciate like the,

the foresight that you and Dan, when you guys came over in 2020, I think you guys came over and seeing that, like you saw this happening before anybody else. You were the first investor and I can't thank you enough to be, to be a part of that. That's all the world means all the world to me. You're back, Chris. God bless men.

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Last evening, there were some incredibly powerful speeches, and one of them was by Ann Funder and was just beyond anything we could put into words. I want to play a piece of tape here and then welcome her here. Let's play cut 124. My family and I were living in Southern California when President Biden took office and opened our borders. My Weston was 15.

And in a moment of peer pressure, he tried something that someone gave to him and it took my baby's life. We did everything right. I had those conversations with him and fentanyl still found my son. And on February 27, 2022, our lives were shattered and our baby was gone. This was not an overdose. It was a poisoning.

His whole future, everything we ever wanted for him was ripped away in an instant. And Joe Biden does nothing. I hold Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, the borders are. What a joke. And Gavin Newsom and every Democrat who supports open borders responsible for the death of my son.

That is, and welcome to the program, and that is one of the most powerful moments I've seen in a convention. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you for having me. First of all, you did an amazing job. That is very, very hard to do. And everyone was crying. And tell us about your son. My son was an amazing kid. He was such a sweet kid. He had so much compassion for other people.

He would give the shirt off of his back if someone needed it. Everybody overwhelmingly told me just how he was just such a caring, compassionate kid. He had a lot of friends, good students, sports. He loved to surf. Typical teenager. He was great. And we did everything right. Private Christian school, church, you know, teenagers, every single one of us. We, you know, when we were teens, we dealt with peer pressure and

You know, in a moment of peer pressure, he succumbed to what we had talked about never doing. So, and then we had a lot of conversations about it and you can't make mistakes anymore as a kid. You die. So he, by peer pressure, took a substance that was laced with fentanyl. Is that correct? So, you know, Percocets, Xanax, they're not even, you know,

No, no. I mean, did they get harmed? Yeah, there's, I mean, Dana Point, Southern California, that whole area is...

It's a virus, though. It's an epidemic. It's definitely bad. Any part of California. California's horrible. For people that don't understand, connect how the open border is making this happen. Well, it's a wild, wild west. It comes over the border in cars and, you know, in every drug bus you can find, you know, from $40,000 to over a million dollars worth of fentanyl. And California...

takes people who are drug runners and they send them to court and say, come back in two weeks. And they never come back. And so there's no stiff penalty for dealing drugs. I mean, there's nothing. My son's case was completely cut and dry. I mean, it was all, they had all the evidence needed and nothing, not even a slap on the wrist.

So a dealer hasn't been arrested for this? No, I don't think they ever will. California lets people out of jail. I mean, they don't persecute anything. They weren't able to find the source of this material? No, they have everything. They just don't persecute. That's California. They don't do anything. So the person who murdered your son with this substance and knowing it was laced with fentanyl, he walks free today to go kill another 15-year-old? Absolutely. You're going to save other people's lives through this?

I hope so because I remember after my son died and we were completely blindsided thinking I just never want another parent to ever have to feel this way. It was unimaginable. This was never going to happen to us. And it was like I was in a bad dream. I just wanted to wake up. And I still do. Every day I'm like, can I wake up tomorrow? Just let me hold my baby again. Sorry.

But it's just, it's, I don't understand. It is the number one killer of people ages 18 to 45. It is very rapidly becoming the number one killer of teenagers and 14 and under being the fastest growing demographic.

I see parents posting their 12-year-olds who died experimenting. Someone gave them something. It wasn't what they said. I mean, this is a poisoning. This is not an overdose. I think that is so important to distinguish. When Snow White was given the apple, she thought she was eating an apple. She had poison. It is no different.

Why do you think that Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom care so little about teenagers being killed? That is the question, isn't it? I have no idea other than they just want the complete destruction of our youth. There is no other answer. They cared more about getting rid of...

ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine than they do about fentanyl. It is disgusting. What is that all about? You would think that someone whose son is an addict who has also lost a child and knows the pain of loss.

This would be on their radar and they would be doing something. But instead, he has reversed Trump's border policy. He has allowed the fentanyl factories in China to reopen. He just pours over our borders and it's poison and they don't prosecute people. They do nothing. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and I got to meet her last night and thank her. She has one of the best legislations in her state.

She passed it. And it is if you sell fentanyl and have a fatality, you're looking at life in prison. And if a child dies, you're looking at the death penalty. We need stiff penalties. And the person who killed your son is still going to do it again. And California couldn't care less. Thank you for your amazing story. Your hope is to get Donald Trump back in the White House to prevent child suffering. We need Trump back. Absolutely. He will seal the border. He will go.

He will go after the cartels. He will save kids' lives. He will save children. He is an amazing man. And we all love him with a love that is deep. I love our president. We need him back. And he'll save this country. This is important. This is the country that our forefathers fought for. My dad was a World War II veteran. He...

And I'm glad that he doesn't have to see what's happening in Joe Biden's America. It is disgusting. And I know President Trump will do everything that he says because he did. He's been president before and we were great. And I know he'll do it again.

And kids' lives will be saved. Kids' lives will be saved. I know how hard it was for you to get up there. You beautifully presented it. Thank you. It's very, very difficult. There's a lot of distractions and people running all over. But you impacted millions of people. Thank you. I appreciate it. God bless you. Thank you for having me on. Thank you so much. All right. I need to tell you guys about Strong Cell. It's amazing. With nearly a million units bought by you.

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We have a very important person here, Michael Knowles, bestselling author of Reason to Vote for Democrats, a thorough read. All right, Michael, this is a Kennedy assassination type moment where I'm going around and I'm just infinitely curious. I'm asking, where were you? Where were you?

I had just baptized my youngest son. Praise God. Yes. So it was this amazing moment of like the greatest celebration. We're all sitting back, cigars, drinks. And then I get a text, shots fired at a Trump rally. I said, okay. That actually didn't totally surprise me. I mean, the libs have been saying he's an existential threat to the country and he's Hitler for years. Okay, shots fired. Then I get the text, Trump shot.

Now I'm paying attention. Then I start getting phone calls from saying, you've got to get on air, get to a computer, get somewhere. And I then I saw the video. And Charlie, you're a religious guy. I'm a religious guy. You know, certain things have natural explanations and certain things are so improbable that the turn of the 15 degree turn of the head. Think of what the country would be today if not for the 15 degree turn of the head. I don't say this lightly.

I don't know if the country would have ever healed from that. And I and I say that because there has never been a moment where we kind of were saying, I mean, I said out loud for months, they're going to try to assassinate him. That's not what I said. Tucker said to other people. And this country is already like on the verge of combusting.

And you're going to all of a sudden have the leader, the figure, the symbol who's been impeached, indicted, convicted, and he gets his brains blown out in an open air rally. I don't know what would have happened next, but it could have ended the country. And I know it sounds apocalyptic. Well, you know, listen, we're living in strange times. And the leader of the party and the former president was almost murdered three days ago. So, yeah, it's hard to overstate these things.

Part of the reason why it would have been so cataclysmic is because it was so expected. As you say, we've all been talking about how this could happen. And so the response that really made my blood boil, I usually have pretty good control of my emotions. What made my blood boil, Kamala Harris said it first. She called it a senseless act of violence.

If you establish the premise for years now that Trump is Hitler and that he poses an existential threat to our system of government, our whole country, then actually it's a very sensible act. It's based on false premises. But how dare you? How dare you call it senseless when you've established the premises that would lead to this conclusion? And the...

They're saying we're looking for a motive. And it's there. There are a couple potential explanations. He could have wanted to be famous.

Or that it was politically driven. That's one of the two. Right. I don't think anything beyond that. He could have been crazy in the sense that Reagan's would-be assassin wanted to impress Jody Foster. Jackson Hinkle or something, right? Hinkley, yeah. But in this case, who, by the way, the libs have been trying to get out of the hand. He's already out. He's already walking free. But in this case, it doesn't appear that the would-be shooter was...

you know, totally out of his wits. I mean, there's video emerging of him in school. There are reports he was a nice boy. He was quiet, whatever. So then those are the questions. Is this politically motivated? Did he simply want to be famous? How did it fail? So, Michael, at the risk of this turning into the Alex Jones show, who I like Alex a lot, right? I mean, I think he's amazing. I like his voice. No, he's, by the way, he's been right about a lot. And I have him on the show and he's terrific.

What the heck happened here, Michael? I want this. And I was just texting with some people. I'm not going to say who. I want this to be incompetence. I want this to be what, Michael, you're a smart guy. How do I make sense of this? At the very least, because, you know, as I've said from the beginning, we want to be all about the facts. We don't want to, you know, the reality is crazy enough that we don't want to be taken to flights of fancy. But at the very least, you would have to say,

The fact that he had an obviously insufficient Secret Service force in terms of the personnel who were selected to protect him, even their physical stature, then... I got attacked for saying that, by the way. She can't holster a weapon, right, Dan? She's protecting the President of the United States. Trump's a pretty big guy. It seems like he should be protected by pretty big guys. By the way, they weren't strong enough to get him off stage in three seconds or less. They're like... You know that the criteria for Secret Service agents is...

different for female agents and male agents of course of course and by the way i mean charlie look you you are a member of the nephilim you are eight foot five yes that's right my people once ruled the earth but i don't think look i don't think i should be protecting president trump you know i haven't lifted enough weights yeah that's right so so there's the question of the stature of the people then there's a question of that just the sheer number of of agents and so the

What the Libs will tell us is, well, he's a former president. That's why he had a smaller detail than the sitting president. Except that he's the first presidential candidate, potentially since 1892, to win a non-consecutive second term. He's a figure who the sitting president has vilified as Hitler and nearly the cause of the destruction of America. You know, at a certain point, when you fail to give that man sufficient resources, then you're making an intentional decision. The...

I believe it was divine intervention. Obviously. And libs are mocking that because they don't believe in God, nor do they believe in Trump. And so we are at a moment now where we have to take a step back and say, what is God trying to teach us or show us here? Donald Trump just selected J.D. Vance as vice president. Tonight is J.D.'s speech. He's a dear friend of mine.

I did everything I could to try to push for it. President Trump made the ultimate decision. What is your reaction to J.D. Vance, a Roman Catholic? He is a Catholic convert. There are a lot of those these days. I love J.D. Vance. I have been following his career since he was in law school, you know, just about. And so I was elated when I heard this pick. And the reason that the pick is so great is because it shows that President Trump, he could have picked a wallflower. He could have picked an old guy. He could have picked a token. He could have picked

someone to, you know, play into the cynical identity politics game. He didn't. He chose someone who's extremely intelligent, extremely articulate, who knows what he believes. You mentioned his religion. The fact that his politics emanates from a religious conversion means I think he's pretty solid. And it means that this selection is not about 2024. It is, but it's also about 2028, 2032, 2036, 2040. It's about the future.

And J.D. Vance is part of a growing part of the conservative movement that is sick of losing.

that understands the populist nationalist undercurrent. Yes. He is incredibly family focused and centered on the beautiful things in life. Yeah. And we have an 81-year-old president, a 78-year-old former president, and a 59-year-old current vice president, and now a 39-year-old. This is the greatest age disparity in the modern era that we've seen. But consider this, Charlie. It's a huge, what, a 40-year age gap between Vance and Trump? Correct. Correct.

And yet those two guys are more aligned on their vision for America than maybe 80% of the GOP. How great do they look as a ticket? Doesn't it look really good? Well, you just cross out the P.E. and then you don't even have to change the signs all that much. Is this not the greatest sign you've ever seen, by the way? I'm sorry. I just love it. It's beautiful. I can't get enough of it. Isn't it? It just pops.

Right. I wanted to say make America great again. Again, that's my only potential. I don't like what they have in the convention. It says make America once great again or something. Right. Once again, great. It's like it doesn't roll off the tongue. Make it. No, it's the Moaga. Moaga. It's Moagoa. No, it's make America great once again. It's now the Magoa movement.

I don't know about that. It sounds like some Pacific island. Yeah, no. Magoa. Magoa. Yeah. Well, hey, maybe that'll win us the votes in American Samoa. Yeah, all those electoral votes. Right. Wasn't that the one place that Joe Biden didn't win?

He lost to that one guy. He should have shown up. You've got to knock on doors if you want to win Samoa. You've got to follow Chase in Guam. Hey, by the way, speaking of chasing those ballots down, are we going to be able to beat the Democrats on their ballot harvesting schemes? Well, what does it say here? It says chase ballots, save America. We're doing everything we can at Turning Point. We're not going to be able to beat them. Hopefully we'll be able to close the gap. And we're working on that every day. We're building a ground army that is second to none, hundreds of full-time people on the ground.

This practicality, I mean, we're talking about the Vance pick. This is what I love, the practicality. Yes. You know, for years we heard all this pie-in-the-sky abstract nonsense about what conservatism really means. And then you get these guys and they say, remember Trump said in 2016, I am running to give you...

Good neighborhoods, a safe, beautiful country. Less abstractions. Less, yes, more tangible. More reality. That's right. But let's talk about the philosophical. This is a Russell Kirkian approach of no relation, but only a spiritual relation. Yes, exactly. Which is, again, one of the most important books, Russell Kirk. What's the title? The American Mind. Yes. Or I'm sorry, The Conservative Mind. Yeah. The American Mind is the Claremont deal, which is awesome. Conservative Mind.

Which is an idea that this nonstop looking into the clouds over platonic obsession with the philosophical elements. Meanwhile, the basic things are deteriorating. Well, Charlie, you ask about divine intervention, and I think this is what's so key. You know, obviously there are ideals. There's a metaphysical reality. But the way we win is through platonic.

through human beings, through the flesh, through contingent history. And so, you know, as Christians, we believe in history. We believe there's a creation. We believe there's a turning point in history, which is the incarnation. We believe there's an end of history. Turning point? It's the turning point, as a matter of fact. And so these tangible moments are what connect us. You know, ours is an incarnational faith, and we believe that God so tightly knits the fabric of reality that his story plays out

over time in Providence with our free will and he accommodates for our sins and his ends will be fulfilled. That's what any Christian would have to believe. And that means that that says something about politics too. What we're seeing happen here is quite remarkable because the Republican Party is now the young rebellious party with the dude that survives the shooting. You're an aesthetic guy because you're Catholic. Can we show my shirt here, please?

Can I have that shirt? Where can I? Yours is a little bit. You want the shirt? I want that shirt. It's members.charliekirk.com to get the shirt. Members.charliekirk.com. I want you to riff on this shirt. The shirt, the image, the muscle to do your Catholic thing. What am I looking at here? Do you want it in Latin? The most overused word I think in the English language is iconic.

and yet that the second most overused word is literally that image is literally iconic it tells you so much the composition is beautiful the the strength that i mean the american flag and trump as a symbol of america this guy he's an american original so good lips think it's staged yes it i mean it you couldn't have staged they're saying they're like come on the blood you got you got the blue background you're

You got the blood on the ear. You got the flag. He's resisting the agents and he's rising. But it's not just the image because that's tacky. It's the reality of the moment. And that's why it's super heavy. Is that what he's doing in that is he got shot and he's rising to his audience and his people saying, it's OK, this country will rise again. But it and it means something. The image just means something. We have civic iconography. You know, we have it.

religion. We have it in our politics, too. And so we have Washington crossing the Delaware. He's there standing at the front of the ship and they're crossing. That's a that's a classic image of so many classic images. What is so amazing about this image is this isn't a painting done after the fact to portray our first president of Cincinnati. This really this is an icon that God made. This is going to be up there at the Pieta.

Maybe just slightly, but it's close. It's close. And it is imbued with meaning. It's a joke, by the way. Media matters. And by the way, that meaning is political and religious. Michael, how can people support you, the work you're doing?

Thank you, Charlie. People can watch the Michael Knowles show. They can buy my magnum opus, as you say, Reasons to Vote for Democrats. Chef's kiss. Endorsed by President Trump. Great book for your reading enjoyment. And if you want, you know, Charlie, we're talking about religion. The body is a temple. The temple needs incense. And so if you want to buy some Mayflower cigars, my personal brand, very American. Cigars are like the most disgusting thing ever. How can you like those? Charlie. They make you nauseous and smell. That's because you haven't tried mine yet. Just wait until you try mine. Cigars in general are awful. You've got to get the good ones.

No, but I want, tell me why you like, enjoy feeling terrible. Well, Charlie, you understand. Do you like going to an old church? You smell the incense? Not necessarily. Once you become Catholic, then you will. Oh yeah. So we're all going to end up that way. No, I just like, I had this conversation with Dennis and he's like, if you don't, if you don't get it, you don't get it. You do not understand. But your clothes stink afterwards. No, but think about that. Now I don't even need to wear cologne. That's just my musk. They smell delicious.

So when you're traveling, you go to a cigar lounge, you're cool smelling. It's the first thing I landed. The first thing I land in town, I say, where is the nearest cigar bar? And it's not even a health. There's no health issue with cigars. That's all. It's all. The FDA has not approved that statement. But, you know, I've had cigars since I was a kid. Maybe mouth cancer, but it's not a minor thing. It's that they're disgusting. Charlie, think about the tripartite soul. The pipes, they're the logic, the brain. The cigarettes, they're the appetite.

But the thematic element, the spirit, baby. That's that's Winston Churchill. Cigarettes, I understand. I don't like them. But at least you get a booze. Are you zinning? Is that what this is about? I don't know any. You're the only right winger who's not zinning. I don't zin. I don't vape. I don't do cigars. By the way, I'm like the least right winger. I don't like golf. I don't drink whiskey. I don't drink at all. Don't like cigars. Are you a secret Democrat? Hold on. How do I? Andrew said I don't like any of that stuff.

Golf is a waste of a good walk. Wow. Yeah. A cigar goes great with golf. People shouldn't drink alcohol and cigars are awful and smell terrible.

No, weed is like... Charlie is a huge Choom Gang fan. But I will say this. I think that... And Dennis won me over on this. That from a moral perspective, that when cigarettes... If there is a vice, cigarettes are a better vice than drinking. Well, you know, and the thing about cigars is you don't inhale and it allows you to... Does anyone beat their wife after smoking a cigarette? No. Elisa beats me after I smoke cigars. That's how it works. No, but alcohol makes people do really bad stuff. Yeah. But no one talks about it. Michael Knowles, check out his book, Cigars.

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All right, everybody, give it up for Madeline Brame. Was she not amazing yesterday? Great to see you again. How are you? Madeline, great to see you again. Oh, it's so good to be here. Thank you so much for having me. Not really. My phone was blowing up all night long. For good reason. Yeah, yeah.

So you gave, I think, the best speech of the night last night. Thank you. And it was passionate. It was direct. You had the place on fire. We could play some tape here, but we have you here. There's no need to even play the tape. What was your message for the country? Well, my message for

of the United States of America is that we need to begin to change the narrative in poor minority communities across the board. We need to make sure that we are not giving our votes away and allowing elected officials to take our vote for granted. We need to make sure that

Whoever wants our vote needs to bring something tangible to the poor minority communities. For too long, we have been neglected and ignored.

Do you do you think Democrats are taking the black vote for granted? Absolutely. For decades. I voted Democrat for 45 years for no other reason other than because I'm black. And if you're black, you vote Democrat. And so it was what happened to your son that began this process. Is that right? Yes. Yes. Because after his murder, I saw the the apparatus.

of New York City that I was up against in trying to get justice. And the entire apparatus in New York City is Democrat and progressive. And these people shunned me and ostracized me and made me feel like an outcast because my Sergeant Hassan was stabbed to death and not shot to death. And they made a huge difference between being shot and stabbed. Why is that an important difference? I don't understand. Well...

It's because my story or Hassan's story did not fit the narrative because all the funding is going into gun violence prevention. And so your son was stabbed to death. Yes. And he served in the U.S. Army. Is that correct? Yes, it is.

So he's an American hero. Absolutely. You know, what were the medals of honor? You know, Afghanistan war received and returned enemy fire on the Taliban had to confirm kills in Kandahar. So Hassan was a decorated war hero. Decorated. He was murdered and stabbed. Yes. In New York City. In Harlem.

Yeah. Is his murderer walking free now? Well, the four homicidal maniacs. Four. Four. A family of homicidal maniacs. Were they all related? Two brothers, a sister, and their friend. Yes. All between the ages of 35 and 40 years old. So this is not children that we're talking about. What was their motive to... Their motive was because...

They said that Hassan jumped someone. All right. When in all actuality, Hassan was defending his father. This was a young man who punched his father in the face. And Hassan did what he needed to do to defend his father. All right. And the kid who got beat up went out and got these people that were hanging out in front of a liquor store.

In Harlem, 152nd and 8th Avenue, all right, and came back and told them that my son jumped them. And those four are, what happened to them? Well, they were apprehended. You know, the NYPD did, the task force, the homicide squad did a tremendous job. You know, they apprehended all four in seven months. They were charged with first-degree gang assault and second-degree murder because the entire incident is on video. So there's no excuse, there's no reason

You know, no question what they did. None. Has Alvin Bragg made New York safer? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Alvin Bragg has come in and made New York City one of the most dangerous cities. OK, OK.

Same as Chicago. Same as L.A. Same as St. Louis. You know, we're just in danger walking the streets, you know, because he refuses to prosecute crime. In closing here, make the case for Donald Trump in 45 seconds. Why should all Americans vote for Donald Trump? Well,

Donald Trump stands on our principles, our conservative values of God, family and country. And I know that he is a man of his word because he said that he would, you know, do what he said he's going to do. And I know that he's going to do it. And I think that everybody, every everybody in poor minority communities. All right. Should really do their research.

Like Amber Rose said, do your research and find out who these candidates are that are up for election. And don't just go on the word of the mainstream media.

Amen. Madeline, you gave a wonderful speech. We need to bring you in front of more audiences. And the president is going to deliver results for all Americans and make this country safe again. God bless you. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Everybody email us freedom at charliekirk.com. If you want to get the shirt, it's members.charliekirk.com. That's members.charliekirk.com. Tonight is one of the most important vice presidential speeches.

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