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So that was a hell of an episode. Yeah, sure was. Absolutely was. 003. Right? Done. Holy shit. Yeah. Why don't you tell everybody what the hell we're doing here, though? Good point. Good point. Good call. Yeah. All right. So if you guys are listening, this is my beautiful wife, Katie Jean. Hello. Hello.
so katie is the one she's behind the cameras and helps with everything in the business yep but she's behind the camera she's the one that runs them runs the sound and i do all the editing and kind of how this works is with our guests we have them show up a couple days before the podcast so far that's what we've done that way we really get to know them we go out to dinner sometimes we film some other content
But really what it does is it just gets everybody comfortable. It gets them comfortable with Katie because she's behind the cameras. Yeah. It gets them comfortable with me. A little whining and dining. Yeah, a little foreplay before the magic happens. Get everybody cozy. Yeah, so...
So anyways, what we're going to do is we're going to do this Sean and Katie debrief after every podcast. And from actually from this point forward or from the next one forward, we're going to do this right after the show. As soon as we stop recording the podcast and they go...
their way then we're gonna that way it's everything's fresh in our minds and we're gonna debrief and whitewash the entire Experience what was going on behind the camera what went on before the podcast and yeah all the dirty little yeah There's usually a lot. Oh, you know, maybe not all of them. All right, but anyway, so if you like that
Go ahead and... If everybody likes this. If you like it. They may not like this whole thing. If you like it, well, fuck it. Give us a like. We'll keep doing it. Go ahead and click that like button on YouTube and leave a little comment saying... Nice comment. ...how beautiful my wife is. Oh, boy. But, okay, fine. You can say how good looking I look, too. All right, I like that. Yeah, right.
But yeah, leave us a comment. Tell us if you like this or not and we'll continue to do it. And if you don't... We'll still continue to do it. I don't know. Maybe we'll continue to do it. But so we just wrapped up, Dawn. Yeah. It's premiering tonight. Holy shit. I mean... Yeah. What Pam and his kids have been through. His kids are grown now, but I mean... Holy shit. Yeah.
It's a lot. I mean, thinking back, we saw Don, well, we saw him at our wedding, but then before that, we saw him when the incident happened, but then we saw him like two weeks before the accident? It was in December. Yeah, no, I remember, he came, it was like right before, he brought his Christmas present. Yeah. And I think he was the first one to actually,
stepped foot in the studio. Yeah, that's right. We tried to film a fucking podcast then. He helped you hang the sign. Yep. We tried to film the podcast then and I was just like, dude, this isn't working. No. Which is funny because when we did that, he was looking at my platoon plaques on the wall and
and saw that I was in Afghanistan in Kandahar. Yeah, that's right. When he got blown up. And I was, and then he showed, and he'd written a book about it, which we didn't even talk about in the podcast, but he wrote a book, which CIA actually... Put the kibosh on? Made him...
well you know you can't find the book anymore it's gone but but um shady but i remember seeing i was like holy dude like that happened right when i showed up and um i remember like touching like digging around in the car and i was like holy like somebody walked out of this and just so you know like just the windows alone on those vehicles the glass is like
An inch and a half thick or something. I mean it's like every time you open and close a car door It's like fucking doing a bench press Wow with one arm Which is why I'm so fucking buff. Mm-hmm. Just kidding but But no I mean and then for us to put that together and we're at the same place at the same time and I didn't I had no idea agency was even there and Dom was
Didn't meet him that trip, you know, and that was like a very small. I mean, it's smaller than this fucking town Leapers Fork. I know. I mean, like way smaller. And I've heard you like just from overhearing you with like other guys that have come through, even not on the podcast, but just like, you know.
Coming by our house. It seems that that's like an ongoing thing. Like you guys have crossed paths. Yeah. You know? Or you're just like, you know, an hour short of each other. It's like weird. Well, shit, look at Glover. Yeah. You know what I mean? Glover fucking met Gabe. I know. Right after Red Wing. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's like...
For those who don't know, Gabe was my best friend and he died recently. But Glover was there. Right. Like, when Gabe got back from the fucking recovery mission. Yeah, it's crazy. It is. This has happened so many times. But anyways, back to Don. I mean, holy shit. You know, like, what he has been through in the fucking... Yeah. In so many different aspects. I mean, like...
The health, the fucking having your name smeared like that. Yeah. The stress that they've all been through. The fucking stress from being prosecuted. Like, he's going to be prosecuted and they're going to want to put him away for, like,
20 fucking years or some shit. Man, it's crazy. It really is. To hear their story, to hear Pam's side of the story and being there. Being there together when everything was going down. I mean...
It's amazing. First of all, it's amazing and a blessing that Don is still alive. I have never met anyone that has been shot in the head and is here to live about it and tell their story. And that right there is just a huge blessing. So, you know, thank God he's alive. But to see what they've been through and to see how he does struggle. I mean, going from when he was last here...
You know, like before the accident and we all went out to like get candy one night, you know, and then to have him here and he can't taste anything now and he's got migraines. Yeah, I forgot about that shit. Yeah. We went out to dinner almost every night and we go to the restaurant and it's like the only thing he gives a shit about is if something's spicy. And then I think you asked him like, what's the deal with the spice? Yeah.
And he was like, man, like, I can't fucking taste anything anymore. Ever since I've been shot in the head, my taste is, like, gone. He's like, shit I used to like actually tastes like shit now, or I can't taste anything at all. And so the only thing he can get is, like, that sensation of...
Like his fucking tongue burning. Yeah. Or the sweets. And we narrowed it down. His candy of choice is strawberry Twizzlers. So we got like a boatload of those one night. Well, I ate all those. Oh, yeah. But when you decided to share with him, he was able to taste it. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, to see him and how many takes it took to do the podcast. I know.
Well, I mean, shit, even when we went out to dinner, every time we left the house, he got dizzy and we'd have to sit down and take a break. Yep. Which is really fucking weird for me to see. Yeah. I mean, the Don I know, I'm in deep shit out in the middle of fucking Kabul, Afghanistan, and he's racing out to the scene like ready to die for me. And now, and that wasn't even that fucking long ago. You know, it was not even that long ago.
And to see him now where it's like, man, I got to sit down, dude. Like, I got fucking vertigo real bad. Or like all of a sudden I got this migraine and it just like sucks to fucking see that, you know. But he's still in there, you know. He is. I mean, he's the same Don. Yeah. He's sharp as fucking, sharp as a knife. I mean, he hasn't...
None of these things are permanent, at least. You know what I mean? Right. He's still the same Don. He just isn't the same Don for 24 hours straight. Yeah. He's got to take breaks now and...
And that sucks. And I know how, I mean, I don't know, but I can see the fucking frustration in his face when it's happening. It's demoralized him. Yeah. And that's what was happening when we were trying to film it, you know, the first couple times. Three times. Yeah. He was getting really upset with himself. Yeah. So, but we were able to finally get it and it was great. It was a great podcast. Yeah. He's, I mean, he's been wanting to get that story out for...
A real long time. Yeah. And... His relief after the fact. Yeah, I mean... I mean, he's been wanting to do this for a long, long time. And he didn't know if it was the right thing. And, you know, he wasn't... He didn't want to go out. And I was like, hey, man, whatever you want to do. We were going to make a documentary. Yeah. And... Which you still might at some point, maybe. Yeah, you know, we'll see. Like, that would be pretty cool. Yeah. But...
Yeah, three takes. Took three takes. I mean, you remember when we were talking about when he was at Air Force? Yeah. One of the ones previous we were doing, we were trying to get through his military career and he just couldn't focus. And one minute he's talking about how he was a SEER instructor in the Air Force and stripping people down naked and putting them in a fucking cage in the freezing cold into...
the fucking river up in Vermont or wherever the hell it's at Washington actually I think it is and and and the next thing you know he's talking about his dad being a mechanic yeah and it went like way off way out there and I I felt like such a fucking dickhead but it was like dude Don I hate to say this but like nobody and I'm sure your dad
Was an awesome guy. A good mechanic. And a great mechanic, but nobody gives a shit. Like, you're here to tell your story. Yeah. Let's stick to it. If this thing gets to be five hours long, nobody's going to listen. But to see the frustration on him... I know. It just, it like sucked. And then...
And then the headaches would kick in and the dizziness would kick in and we'd have to call it. And then round three, though. Yeah, that was a hit. Me and you made a game time decision like, hey, fuck it. Like no childhood, no military career. Cut right to it. The majority of his career was CIA anyways. And the real reason he's here is he wants to get that out. And I think it's going to be very well received. Yeah, me too.
And I wish, I kind of wish the cameras were still rolling at the end because to see you guys like hug it out at the end and feel like the emotion in the room, that was really cool. Oh, man. And he was so relieved and just happy to have his story finally heard, you know?
Just the fact that he slept that long. I know. That night. Sleepyhead Don. Yeah. I mean, just, I mean, I mean, you know, I have fucking problems sleeping. Yep. You do. So does pretty much all of my friends. And, but to see him and we wake up at the ass crack of dawn and there's fucking Don every morning.
Like, wide awake. He started the coffee. Just because he can't... No, yeah, yeah, every morning. Yeah. Because he can't fucking sleep. And then the day after the podcast, we have breakfast. We're like, uh... Have some coffee. It's like 9.30 in the morning, and it's like, is this motherfucker going to get up? Or like, what the fuck? Like, it's a weekday. Yeah. I got shit to do. And, uh... But, he...
That's not a coincidence. No, no. And then to see him, I mean, he literally broke down as soon as the record button hit for the second time and everything was offline. I mean, incredible. And actually, when I was doing the edit on the very last portion, you can hear him breathing and he goes...
Really? Yeah, and I tried to like keep that in there I tried to yeah the camera rolling long enough to or keep the edit long enough to write you could get that in there and I think I did but I mean you can see it you yeah, you can see his mouth open and like take that gasp and like that it's like that fucking relief all went out in one breath because then you hit record on the cameras the sound everything's off and
He couldn't hold it in any longer man. He broke down gave us that a big hug and was just like man I just can't yeah, thank you guys enough. That was really cool. Yeah, I mean that alone made the whole Experience like that much better. I mean just oh absolutely know that he was able to feel that because that's a I mean And to see him sleep so long the next day. Yeah, but it was all relief. Yeah, and
And I hope he gets what he wants out of the podcast. They have the GoFundMe going, but... Well, and just from this morning alone, when you released the audio part of the podcast...
We've been getting emails, you know, sent to operations that people are hearing a story on iTunes and they're already reaching out to us saying like, how can we help Don? How can, you know, what can we do? So that right there is huge. And with tonight's premiere, I mean, I'm sure more people hopefully are going to be reaching out and seeing what they can do. They're going to reach out. Yeah. And...
I just hope more stories are going to come out about that police department, you know? And it's scary. It's scary to hear that, you know... I hope more stories don't come out because of what's going on. But a lot of stuff has already surfaced. Yeah. And, you know, I just hope that this reaches... Or not this, but the episode 003 with Headshot Don. Like, I hope that goes to...
I hope that gets in front of the eyes that it needs to get in front of. Yeah. And somebody with some real fucking authority. Some pull. Who actually gives a shit, sees that, and is like, I need to fucking, I can make a difference. Yeah. I can get a hold of him and fucking make a difference.
And that'd be nobody should have to go through that shit. No, I know and it makes you realize like how many people are going through it and you know, I mean, yeah, how many people are in the system right now? Yeah, because of Incompetence. Mm-hmm. I mean, it's a real shame fucking sad. Yeah, it's fuck to think about and especially, you know to
Somebody like him. I know. In this restraint that he has. Like, the fact that nobody got shot after they fucking blew his car up is amazing. Yeah. And the fact that nobody got shot when he came to my aid. Mm-hmm. I can't say...
Things would have been the same if that would have been me. Right. That was the red sneaker story, correct? That was the red sneaker story, which we made into a fucking joke, but it wasn't a fucking joke. Yeah, I could imagine. And that's just kind of how we deal with shit. Anyways, I hope somebody or something comes of that. Yeah, I do too. So who's next? I don't know, you know.
We got a big list going. We do have a list. So you kind of already know who's on the list. I know. But I don't know who... We don't have anybody scheduled. We wanted to see how these three went first. Right. And I guess it's time to start reaching out to some people. Can I just say, though, I really want Mike Ritland. You want Mike Ritland? I want Mike because...
I've never met him. I think it'd be cool to meet him. But really, selfishly, I just want to see if he can teach Griffin how to sit. The damn dog doesn't know how to do anything except eat his own shit. But if we could teach Griffin, or if Mike could teach Griffin how to sit, it would be mind-blowing. Of all the things you could teach Griffin...
Our 77-year-old dog. Yeah. Dog ears. You want to teach him how to sit. I don't even care. It's been so long he can't sit. But to see Mike teach him how to sit, if he could actually do it, it would be amazing, really. He'd be like full-blown dog whisperer. I'd rather see him teach Griffin how to not eat his own shit so much. But that's just...
I mean, he's great at cleaning up the backyard though. There's no doubt about that. He is. He's totally organic. He's a green dog. All of the land is completely clean. He just recycles and recycles and recycles. God bless him. How many times do you think he's been on a show? I don't know. You've asked me that numerous times and I don't have an answer for you. Well, I would be curious to know. One day you just might find out. I want to have Mike on too. Mike, if you're listening to this...
Please teach our dog Griffin to quit eating his own Rookie do oh man, not my proudest moment of being Griffin's mom But yeah, we got a lot of good requests too though now we do you know But I'm and I think you are the same way But I'm not really looking for the guy with the biggest fucking Instagram following I actually to be honest I could give two shits about that. I know you tend to go the opposite. I
Well, you know, that's what everybody does. They get the fucking, it's like, oh, so-and-so's got fucking 250,000 Instagram followers. Who gives a shit? What's his story? And has his story been told 50,000 fucking times on the podcast circuit? Probably. You know what I mean? And a lot of times it's the same exact story. And it's like, you know, if you're not going to come here and open up, then I don't fucking have a place for you. Yeah, I know. I know you feel that way. Yeah.
And the other thing is, and I'm one of them, you know, I've been on the podcast circuit. And let's get some fucking new blood in here. Yeah. Like, look at Kennedy. I know. That dude came out of nowhere. I know. We didn't even know him. No. It was a reference. He had called because Jeff Reed had referred us. And he had just called to get like some, like no shit, just some tips on him starting a business. Yeah. And I was like, well...
I don't usually talk to people about this, but here's what I would do. And sure shit, six months later, he's sitting in that fucking chair like we're best friends. I know. And it's cool to see where he's headed now. And we've sent him a boatload of training tips and inquiries and all that. And they're actually panning out. The people that have emailed us, and I'm like, nope, go write to Travis. And they're...
actually doing it. They're linking up, which is great. That's awesome. It's so awesome. And he's current, you know, he's more current than I am. He's fresh out and I mean, I haven't been out that long, but whatever, you know, it's, it's awesome to see his business turning. He's at a turning point right now. It's really, really fucking cool to see. But I like guys like that, that they're new to the game. They're fresh out. They're
Kind of looking for maybe a little bit of exposure, but... Well, your friend that you had just mentioned, too. I know you want to get him out. Well, Cowley May Earl. Yeah. So Cowley was at SEAL Team 3. We went through buds together. Nobody knows Cowley outside of the SEAL community and his family and friends, but...
I mean he doesn't have like a big social media presence but I'll tell you what the guy is one of the baddest motherfuckers walking this planet I can tell you that right now I remember you told me some stories dude his time in the fucking SEAL teams is like his story is amazing and heartbreaking yeah and and then fast forward when he gets out and his transition into civilian life I mean
That shit is darker than mine. Yeah. And mine got pretty fucking dark. Yeah. I mean, and his is darker. I mean, I don't want to say anything because I don't know what he wants to open up about. Wants to share, right. Or if he's even going to come on. But, you know, that's what I'm talking about because that's what gives other people inspiration. Yeah, and hope. And whatever he's got going on when he comes here, you know, if he comes here, then...
it will be to his benefit yeah you know what i mean i'm not oh for sure we're not looking to write anybody's coat tail on the following train by any means yeah and um and we want fresh material from real people yeah but you know i'd like to get a nashville firefighter on yeah that would be cool we get a lot of emails from firefighters
policemen but um but yeah that would be really that'd be great i would love to get a firefighter on who's done something i mean i know all of them do go way above and beyond but i would love to get like who's the baddest firefighter in the nashville area or actually anywhere yeah you know and uh i'm just saying nashville because
We're pretty much in Natchville. Right. But so it'd be kind of cool to get like a local hero. But that would really, that would be very interesting. But like not tied to September 11th? Or are you looking for like for something more? No, I mean, they can be tied to September 11th. But, you know, there's so much attention on September 11th and I am not taking away from that at all. Right. And obviously it changed all of our lives. But there are, you know, it's been...
It's been almost 20 years since September 11th. And there's new blood out there who have... Guys who have done magnificent fucking things and saved shit tons of lives. And I'd love to get somebody like that on here. That would be great. Well, this is a good way to start the buzz. Yeah, so if you're a firefighter in Nashville and you know who the baddest motherfucking firefighter is in Nashville or anywhere else, shoot us an email at...
Tell us a brief summary about who it is. Or an article link or anything. We'll try to get them on. Yeah. And you know who else I want? Who's that? I want to get Ray Davis. The new book. Well, this isn't really a new book. Well. Ray Davis. We just got it. Yeah. So I haven't read it yet because I'm a slow reader and I already...
read the real reports but um ray davis ray davis yeah cia contractor killed a couple of guys in pakistan got rolled up went to jail that's what the book's about yeah all right and uh that's when i was that was huge news all over the it was world news i mean pakistan had put in prison
An American CIA guy. Oh, I remember you and Don were just talking about this guy. Okay. I mean, Ray put me through training. I have no idea how the hell to get a hold of him. We don't keep in contact. I haven't talked to him in probably fucking 10 years. But I want to get that dude on the podcast. Maybe we can get him by episode 007. Ooh. But...
That'd be good. But, I mean, he made it out of prison. Wow. But he's got a hell of a story. I bet. I don't think he even has a fucking Instagram. Nice. You know, so. I didn't even know that could be possible. Yeah, believe it or not, there are actually interesting people in the world that don't have a fucking IG account. Would you believe that? Right? You know, guess what? There's more to life than the fucking social media world. Shocking. Oh, not that shocking. Yeah.
Do you think we should start taking call-ins on this? On this show? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, depending if people tonight like the show. Yeah. They might say, scratch this whole idea. They're going to be like, hey, fucking scrap that shit. Yeah, this is boring as hell. Yeah. Nobody cares. But if they do care, yeah, hell yeah, we'd take some phone calls.
I'm all for it. Who are we going to have? Like a random ass neighbor? We could have the random ass neighbor. I'd like to call my mom. Have my mom call in. You know? My mother-in-law? Yeah, your mother-in-law. Lizzie. You want Liz, my mother-in-law, to call in? Yeah, get her on the line. That could be like a five hour long podcast. It could be, but it would be very entertaining. My mother-in-law loves...
Absolutely loves to talk. Yes, she does. She's good at it. Damn good at it. She intimidates the living shit out of me. I don't know if we can ever call in. I'm sure people would really like to see that though. I'd rather have, well, maybe my mom. I would love to have your mom call in. My mom, well, that would be like a two-second conversation. No, it wouldn't. Because my mom doesn't talk. She's like me. Your mom's got some stories. Yeah, but you've got to do it together. Some good stories.
We'll get it out. Well, whatever. But yes, I would like to take calls on this show. I love both my mother-in-law and my mom, by the way. You're making that perfectly clear, babe. All right. But yeah, I'd like to get some phone calls on here. I just don't want to get in trouble. You won't. If you do, then we'll know by later tonight.
Alright, well, I feel like I'm already in a little bit of trouble after Christmas, but... Oh boy, well that's another story. Yeah, well, we won't get into that. Okie doke. So let's talk about flannels then. Flannels are coming back soon. Flannels are coming back. We are working our butts off. I'm not working my butt off. You're working your butt off. Well, I'm working my butt off on getting flannels up and going, some hats, some new hat designs.
So, yeah. What's the new hat design? I can't tell you about that. Yeah, you can. It's a black hat with a white V. Oh, right. Come on. And a white flag. I think it looks badass. Oh, is there a mock-up?
Yes, there is. It's in your inbox. All right, well, in that case, one, I'm hungry. Two, I am about out of wine. And three, I want to see this new hat design. By the way, though, whoever gave you the shout-out about the Publix wine, somebody wrote you on Instagram about Publix wine being back in stock. Yeah.
Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, but they must have bought like all the Publix wine. Yeah, hey, thanks, asshole. Like somebody fucking sent me a picture like, hey, the Publix wine is back because I think it's seasonal or something. Right. And then we go right there and all the fucking Publix wine is gone. Like the entire thing. Like the sections there, but there's no fucking Publix wine. And they tag the fucking Publix that we go to so we know it was. That was messed up. I mean, I don't even drink, but I feel bad. But.
All right. Well. All right. We'll wrap it up. I'm hungry and thirsty. Okay. And I want to see this hat design. So if you guys like this, give us a like. Leave us a review. Some nice comments. Yeah. Some nice comments. Tell my wife how beautiful she looks. Oh, boy. And tell me to get my ass back in the gym. And give us a podcast recommendation. And if they want to see more. Oh, especially who? What were you going to say? See more what? If they want to see more of The Debrief. Oh, yeah.
What were you going to say? Oh, nothing. My mind was in the gutter. Let's wrap it up. Okay. But, all right. Well, thanks for tuning in. Yeah. We'll do this after every episode. And if you don't like it, then we'll do it twice after every episode. Why not? Just kidding. But, all right. We'll see you guys soon. Good night.
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