Trisha is PREGNANT With Baby Elvis! 02:48:02

Hey guys, welcome back to the Just Trish Thanksgiving special. You guys, this is our only episode of the Zappa So Happy because we're celebrating Thanksgiving, but not how you would think of Thanksgiving. We're just giving thanks, like as in like thank you to the universe because Thanksgiving, the original Thanksgiving, is just a whole lot of mess and we don't want to celebrate that, I guess. I don't really know, but we're not celebrating that way. We're just celebrating with some turkey and taking a day off. So I'm here, Just Trish.

Not just Trish today. We have a co-host today. Just today. Just an everyday Oscar. Hello. We're Thanksgiving. Oh. Well, Trixie Mattel. Don't come for me. It was Trixie Mattel. I was like, wow, that was good. I'm not claiming that, but yes. I love that. I love the Thanksgiving. You know, Trixie is probably like so into me. She's like your favorite right now, right? Because you bring her up all the time. I mean, I've always loved Trixie since like she was on Drag Race. Oh, she was on Drag Race? Yeah.

Wait, I thought she was just like her own thing. Like I thought she was like RuPaul. Like she would never be on Drag Race because she's like so big. She was on Drag Race 7 and then she won All Stars 3. Maybe I am kind of a Trixie Stier. Yeah, I don't know. You bring her up a lot. We also have another co-host, but not really. Well, he's like a, they always want him as a guest, but I'm like, he's here every week. He's a guest every week. We have my husband, Moses, who's our tech. Hello. I don't know if you're a co-host, but you chime in here and there. You're a co-host. I'm not a co-host. I'm more of a, I'm a fact checker. Okay.

That's true. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time we'll sit there, like, talk about something factual, and then we look over to Moe. Yeah, yeah. Moe's like, does he know? He knows most things. He really does. About, like, smart things, you know? Yeah. But we were just talking about their setup for next year. So soon I'll have, like, a little desk here. I'll have my computer. Yeah. We're going to elevate. We'll be like Joe Rogan. I'll be Jamie. Do you know that reference? Neither do I.

We love a straight man reference. He's like, I'm the Jamie. I'm like, I don't know what that means. Straight man news over here. Okay, I love it. And you're matching. You guys are matching today. Well, I saw him come in. I was like, what am I wearing today? I didn't know what. And then I was like, oh yeah, fall vibes. I love that. You're a style icon. So I was matching Oscar today. I love it. I live for it. I love when people are like,

Yeah.

I know, my friend Brooke too, which we got those sweaters. Well, technically we haven't gotten them physically yet, but we are getting them. Someone tracked them down. People went that night to the store to get them and I was like, wow, they sold out. Like they literally sold out because someone else went and they're like, they're all gone. And I'm like, I think we have two. I have one secured. I'm waiting for one person to send another one. I'm like,

hopefully they sent it because I just sent money and I'm like hopefully these people sent it they did show the receipt and the sweatshirt but I'm like it takes time I guess so we'll see the turnaround was pretty crazy you posted your story Brooke was on TikTok live wearing the pink San Diego sweatshirt you posted the screenshot on TikTok live as it was happening

And Brooke saw the Instagram story within like an hour and it was great. I would love it because we were worried. We're like, ooh, what does she think? Is it like weird? Is it whatever? And she was like living and she was like, oh my God, I can't wait to see it. She even offered her own sweatshirt. She goes, if you need mine or a blue one, she had. And I was like, well, maybe. But then we're like, we found it. We might have to take her up on that. Just wear hers. I love it. I love it because she followed me back on Instagram and I literally, now I know exactly how you feel because I saw that and I was like, oh my God. Oh.

I'm cool. There's such a great feeling about someone following you back. And then she instantly DM'd me. She's like, I'm your biggest fan. And I was like. No way. No way. You didn't tell me that. Yeah. I screenshot. Well, not in a bad way, but I screenshotted to show you. I was like, look. But then I was wondering, can they see the screenshot? I mean, not that it matters, but I would be weird to someone. I don't think they can on Instagram. I don't think so either. I've been screenshotting all DMs, but not for like

receipts like freaking David with the Jeff incident being like oh on this day like the day yeah no I should maybe I guess but I just I like to screenshot to show people like look who just DM me or something but I guess it could be weird I don't know I was so excited to show it's like it's not like it's anything personal but I guess it was like she's so excited for us to match her so we'll have to plan the birthday soon we have the FNAF

My FNAF cosplay was sold out and I got the jacket, Theory Wear if you're out there. The Chica cosplay, the reason I have to get that one is because it's pink. All the other Chica cosplays are like yellow. Yellow.

I mean, it's not that hard to get. It's like a pink cheerleading skirt and like a let's party shirt. So it'd be like easy to get. But anyways, Theory Wear, if you're out there, I'm looking for a 2X. No one hit me up on that. I thought for sure they'll like hit me up. No one has it. I was like, I'll pay double. I have a 2X on today for Fashion Nova. So not sponsored. This is also 2X though. But it's oversized and cute. I love this.

today harvest i'm like what's like a politically correct way to do thanksgiving cosplay so this is what we ended up with i think it's a tumble i think right it's a what a tumble what's a tumble autumn it sounds like thumbnail oh like autumn autumnal autumnal autumnal

I don't know. He was trying to figure out what he said. Yeah, autumnal. You got it. Is that really a word? Are you making up? Yeah, I swear to God. I swear to God. Autonomous? Autonomous. What's that? No, that's its own word. Oh, I did not know. That was not a great... It sounds like something

Like a thumbnail or a thumbnail. A thumbnail? A thumbnail. Yeah. Okay. This is why we're on the education genre. Yes. A thumbnail. I didn't get the harvest memo. I guess I should have. But we do have a little squish holding a turkey and a pumpkin on its head. Saw it at Barnes & Noble for 30 bucks and I rationalized it by saying, let's use it for the podcast because-

I don't know. Malibu's not really into squishies that much, so I guess it's for me. It's only a little turkey. It's so cute. Are you cooking a turkey? No, I'm not. I'm not a cook at all. At all. At all. Wow. But I'll be eating a lot for sure. Who cooks it? Whole Foods actually is cooking our turkey. No. Wait, what? They sell them made? Yeah. You can order Thanksgiving food from Whole Foods. And that's what you guys do? Yeah, because no one in my family likes to cook.

What? Yeah. Did you not have, no one cooked growing up? My grandma would be the cook growing up. A turkey is very, very easy to cook. It literally is like butter, some herbs and stick it in. I mean, if I can cook it, literally I cook it. It takes so long to cook though. Doesn't it take like hours? Oh my God. I mean, it's like crazy. You just stick it in and forget it. There's not much to it. You're not doing anything for four hours. Yeah, you just literally sit around. It is kind of fun when you stick like the thermometer in and stuff. It kind of feels science-y. I don't even think we do that. Do we? Yeah.

It feels complicated. It feels complicated. It feels complicated, but so not. It's very big in size, so it feels overwhelming. I guess you take the stuff out. Yeah, I don't take that. Oh, I hate pulling the stuff out. Yeah, I don't know how to do that. See, my priority for Thanksgiving is like, I'm always thinking about Black Friday. Like, I'm at Thanksgiving dinner, but like, I have all, I pull all the freaking ads and I'm going through on the table. I'm like, what's the plan for Black Friday? I love Black Friday. Wait, what ads? In the newspaper? I love it.

That was back in the day, like a couple years ago. So where are you pulling now? So now BlackFriday.com, not sponsored. It tells you all the deals. They get all the Black Friday ads leaked, so they have them on the website for like weeks. And then you can start like mapping it out, like where are we going? What are we hitting up first? It's like, it's serious. Physically, you go to all these stores. I need to be there.

I really do. It doesn't give me the same rush. Like I need to be there. Oh, I love, I hate like lines and crowds for some reason, Black Friday. I'm like, I need to be there. Like I want to like fight and scramble. Oh my God. Do you think it's still crowded? Cause we go to malls and they're dead. Like every time we go to a mall, it's dead. I think it depends. Like if you go like first thing, there's like that rush, but then their stores are open for so long that like by the afternoon, the crazy people like me have already like gone through and left in the hall. So it's, yeah. Yeah.

We should go tomorrow before Black Friday because we have to get something at Bath and Body Works and I feel like we need to go before the sales. Although now all these stores start their sales like two weeks in advance of Black Friday. I'm like, this is not what it's about. Okay, yes. We were at Target. We saw Christmas trees for $70. They were on sale for Black Friday for 50% off. We got four trees for like $150. Oh my God. $150.

All four trees were $150. Pre-lit. Ready to go. Because we're doing like this little tree. I was shocked. I was like. I had to go back immediately. Because we didn't have enough room in the car. I'm like. You need to go back right now. And go get those trees. Because that was the best deal. Like $35 for these big trees with lights. Like it almost was like a mistake. Yeah. It was at Target. Target had the all the black.

Friday sales already. And the thing with Christmas decorations, like if you have not already got your Christmas decorations by now, like you're late. Like you cannot go on December 1st and you're going to go get a Christmas tree. You're not going to find anything. You can't even find an ornament. Home Depot, like nothing is there December 1st. Like it's crazy. No, yeah, you have to get them before. You got to be planning July. You got to be planning Christmas decorations. I mean, I love people who do that. That is everything. I wish I could be like that.

I went to Rose Anna's Pantene's house on Friday. We were baking cookies. She gives me that. Yeah, she had the full trees up. She's like, oh, we do it in July. Because I guess when she does a lot of brand deals, I guess the brands need the assets by September. Oh, my God. So she does Christmas in July and leaves the trees up and stuff. It was beautiful. Her house is so...

cookie cutter perfect. It smells like pine. I'm like, they weren't real trees. And I'm like, it smells like real trees. And she has like sprays that smell like real trees. We made these cookies. It comes on her 12th cookies of Christmas or whatever. And it took us like, it's literally like an eight hour cookie process. It's so long and so intricate. But man, she's like the perfect anyways. We love Ro. But, um,

Yeah, it was, it was wild. People just decorate early here. We decorated, we had to like get ours out by like November 1st. Cause like our whole, we can't see, you don't get to see them. Our palm trees are lit up. Like everything's like lit up. It's really pretty. But upstairs we're going to decorate this week cause we have to do our Christmas cards and Christmas cards at shoot November because you have to get them printed and you have to send them out. Maybe that's

what we can do on the patreon i can give christmas cards this year because we already print well you know what we only print like 20 we don't have that many people but yeah we're starting patreon in december so or maybe next week we're starting it when is december i don't even know it's next friday a week from friday so it's i know i scheduled our christmas card shoot i know today it's uh airing november 21st

November 21st. In nine days. In nine days. It is. Yeah, it's Christmas. So anyways, we're doing Patreon. I'm excited for our Patreon. I'm excited that you're excited because I know you're so busy. So I was so stoked when you're like, let's do more. And I was like, that's what I've been wanting to do. I don't know what it is. Something shifted because last week I was like so upbeat, so positive. I was like, we got to keep the good vibes rolling. I know. I'm like, what else can we be doing? Are you still there?

oh yeah I'm still there I think I'm shifting now every time like I want to dip I'm like no no and I bring it back up so I'm trying to like stay at like this you have to keep up that way no I know because you were in such good spirits last time and then like the next day you're like I'm in the hospital and I was like oh my god you're like I have this like I'm my chest I almost had a heart attack but I'm gonna get your episode up at 11 I was

Oh my God. Are you okay? I was still positive. Yeah. I thought I was dying. I thought I was having a heart attack of some kind. But it turns out I just, this is so bro code and I hate saying it. I guess I just went too hard at the gym because my chest was just inflamed. That's wild. Yeah. But it felt what? Like your heart was racing? It was a sharp pain that was going down. It was in my chest and went down my arm.

So that's why I thought it was like, yeah, that's like, you know, I always thought that too. Your arm go, I had my arm go numb one time. I'm like, I don't think I've ever heard of that, but it's so scary. I think what attitude I just had, like I went to the doctor like a couple of days before and you know, they give you like your weight this and they said I was, I have Adderall and I'm on too much caffeine. So my doctor, poor Dr. Jen was a little concerned. Um, so I also had that in the back of my mind too. It was like, Oh my God, Adderall caffeine. Like it's all finally catching up to me. What caffeine do you drink? I take caffeine pills. I don't like coffee.

Yeah. Oh my God. Wait, I'm going to also take that with Adderall? No. Because it's like upper and then upper, upper. Wait, why do you take caffeine pills? A little pizzazz. A little dum-dum-dum. Let's not do caffeine. Let's bring it down a little bit. Oh my God. I know. I've cut myself off. Now that you're in your 30s, you've got to really start examining your lifestyle is what I've learned. Yeah. Caffeine is

actually like so bad for you. Like it is like actually like that's why you get like headaches when you don't have caffeine. I don't do caffeine at all. Yeah. I stopped. I was last year after I was pregnant, I kind of went on a caffeine kick because like this time of year they have Sprite cranberry and it's like my favorite thing in the whole world. And caffeine free is just weird. Like I don't like caffeine free either. So it's just, I just don't do sodas in general and I feel so much better when I don't do it. I love sodas, but like I just, I can't do it.

Coffee. Oh, no, because I get so high and then I crash too. And to me, that's just like a drug and it's just like something I don't want to do. Caffeine's scary. Right now, this is all just vibes and a little bit of Adderall. Okay. Yeah. Does Adderall make you energetic? Honestly, it just makes me normal. It just feels normal. I never took it. I know people took it also for appetite suppressants. I know people. Yeah. That reminds me. What? I felt like you last night because I had pasta for dinner and I was like, oh, this is so trish-coated. Pasta sundae. It's very trish-coated.

Wait, do you watch Trish Short? Did we talk about this? No, I don't watch Trish Short. Oh, okay. Someone else told me they love Trish Short. But that's very like Italian to have like pasta on like Sunday nights. I'm not Italian, but I heard that's what they do. They have like Sunday family dinners. Wait, but you have that one shirt that says Italians do it better. Well, that was a cosplay. That was my Madonna. Okay. I was like, that's a cosplay.

That's so funny, though. Like, wait, she's everything. That photo's in my meme folder. I have so many photos of you in my meme folder. Wait, was that even a meme or you just made it a fun? No, it's used on Twitter. Gay Twitter. Yeah, shout out. There's so many gay Twitter influencers. Shout out Mazzy Popstar and Brooklyn and stuff. Mazzy Popstar? Who's that? That sounds like someone I should know. Are they a pop star? Are they a they? Yeah.

Their icon is Kourtney Kardashian in the Addison Rae, he's all that. Which one? Where she's like... Where she's on the phone and she's like, Jessica, what's that her name in it? Yeah. But yeah, they always use photos of you. And every time I see them, I see them. So my meme folder is like all you. That's so funny. I love that. I want to see your computer. Yeah.

That reminds me. I told everyone that I would ask you about this. Oh, no. Have you seen the TikTok trend where people pretend that they're related to you? Yes. I'm so over it. I see it all the time. That's on my For You page. Everyone keeps begging me to ask you about this. I don't get it. I don't get it. Like, oh, I met this person on Ancestry. Oh, they're FaceTiming me. They're crying. Blah.

I don't get it. Like, what? Like, what? It's so funny. It's so weird. What's the meme? I'm so not in on this joke. With those pictures and then they're like, oh, she just asked me for some money. And the parents, the replies are so like, whatever you do, do not send her money. They're so concerned. What? Block this person. I'm so confused by them. And I see them all the time. I'm like, wait, what? I don't get it.

I guess it's just one the parents don't know. It's kind of like the AI. I think it's just because there's so many pictures of you in so many different moods. So they can post it as if they're like, oh, look at this person. She sent me a picture. Oh, she's now sad. Oh, she's really upset. Oh, she's happy. But how are they FaceTiming? How are they FaceTiming? You know what I mean? Like their little picture is with my picture. I'm sure there's a filter. Is it a filter? Or are they Photoshopped? Because I've never Photoshopped. How are people so good at Photoshopping? Is that what they're doing? Because it does look real. Stop.

it because I don't want people to think that when they see me like, oh my God, that's scammer. And I'm sure that's what people are saying. This is a trend I don't support. I won't support. Stop it. It kills me. I hate it. Have you done it? Well, in this case, he actually knows you. So that would be problematic. We could be on FaceTime. I never FaceTime, by the way. Scammer if it's FaceTime. I hate FaceTime. Thank God you don't FaceTime me. There are so many people. Oh, I hate FaceTime too. I have a couple of friends that try to FaceTime me. I never,

ever answer. I'm like, why? I wait for it to go away. I just sit there and stare at it every time I get a question. I'll ignore it. Oh, you just stare at it? I just wait for it to stop because I kind of freeze. I'm like, why is someone FaceTiming me? And then I get kind of paranoid. I'm like, why are they FaceTiming me? Yeah. I never do. Don't call me ever. No, I'm not calling. I don't like it. It's so weird when people call me. And sometimes I'll answer because I think it's serious if no one ever calls me. And it's literally that I'm just trying to schedule. I'm trying to schedule something different. I was like, just text me. What? What?

I don't get it. I don't get it at all. Okay, so Thanksgiving's coming up. What are you thankful for? I like to do gratitude every morning. Like, I do gratitude every morning because I feel like your day can only go up. And I also know the law of the universe, the secret of the universe, the law of attraction is, like, if you're thankful for things, the universe will give you, like, more things to be thankful for. So even if you're just thankful for, like, breathing and, like, watching Just Trish right now, like, those are two things to be thankful for. The universe is going to, like, bless you with more things to be thankful for. Like, just more blessings will come. Otherwise, if you complain about stuff, the universe is going to give you more things to complain about. You know what I mean? That's just what I've learned. So every morning, I always do gratitude. I do, like, at least, like, I would

I always tell people to do like at least five things. Even if you have two things, it's fine. But like at least five. So what are five things you're grateful for? Okay. Yeah. This is so cliche, but just like health. Like even if it's like to have a body, it's not my ideal body per se, but at least it's like a body and it's like everything is working as it should. Yeah. And to have a little scare, it just made me extra thankful for that. So that's for sure.

Love it. That should be everyone. If you don't have one, that should be your thing right now. Yeah, because I feel like even us, we can get hard on our bodies and stuff too. But really the fact that we're just kicking, that is a victory in and of itself. I think that all the time. I'm like, oh my god. We're here. We're healthy. Don't be hard on yourself. Yeah, you're alive. I can breathe for the most part. Sometimes I can't, but that's a whole other thing. That's a good one. Okay. Yeah, definitely this for sure. Because I mean, I told you too, the timing of...

working with you is like so crazy because everything kind of aligned, like kind of lost like my second job and I have to like work more just like, cause I have so many people to support. And I almost like, I was interviewing at Target. I was like, I'm like, I guess I'll just have to go back work retail on the side. And I had like an interview with schedule with Target, like that ass. Yes. Oh my gosh. And then you had like reached out like that same week. So isn't that crazy? Oh my God. That's actually so great. That's how I think things are like meant to be in aligned. Cause we have talked about so many times working and like,

I know for me, like you were always my first choice, but I was like, oh my gosh, I knew you were busy. I knew you worked full time. I knew you worked for other people. So I was just like, I don't know if it's going to work. And I didn't really have, like, I kind of had a second choice, but not really. It just like wouldn't have worked. So even now, I mean, I always tell you, you're like irreplaceable. Like, I don't know what I would do. That's why I'm so like, okay, what do you think? What do you think? Cause there's just like, I don't know what I would do without you. Like you just edit so quickly, do everything. I mean, you're just so great. And also we just like,

flow and people like you but oh that's amazing oh I love that I know and I've like every time we talked about it too we're like oh yeah like we knew it would work but it's just like kind of figuring out like the when situation you know and like I don't know this with this one it's just like it all kind of like fell into place it's so weird it's crazy it is crazy I was thinking about that I'm like how that just like like you said just literally fell into place and like almost immediately it was just like 400,000 views on our first one which is like insane because my main channel was

was like 10 000 views i was like that's bizarre i'm so i'm so confused by it still i don't know i honestly i don't know maybe it's like because it's like editing and like there's a set and now it looks like legit i don't know i've been doing this in my car for like the past two years and no one cared so um i guess it's the magic of it all yeah and also kind of similar to this everyone who's like kind of like following me afterwards because i like my goal is never to like be an influence whatever i think it's like silly and i like to entertain myself with like work stuff

But all of a sudden, like, people are following and then the people will message me, like, inside jokes and, like, tag me and stuff. And it's so cute. Oh, my gosh. It feels like such a, like, community, which is wild. Because to me, I feel like you might be similar. Like, I always kind of felt, like, underdoggy, like, never really fitting in or whatever. And the fact that, like –

People are like, like what we do, like want to like follow along and be in on it. Yeah. It's so fun. It is crazy. I know. I'm the same way. I'm just like, oh my God, wait, people are like liking something we're doing. It's so cool. Like it feels like, and we're like the core of it. You know what I mean? We're like the group. We're like the girls. Yeah. Of our, just Trish. It's so fun. I was like,

Wow. Yeah, I totally agree with you on that too. Okay, so two more things to be grateful for. I think for my boyfriend too. I never thought I'd be like in a relationship, especially a relationship like we're going on four years soon. So that's crazy because I'd like, again, similar to you, like...

You kind of are, you go through like a lot of situationships for a really long time that you kind of just think that that's like all you're going to like be stuck with forever. And you don't really see yourself like settling down or like living with someone. And then it happened for both of us at the same time, which is crazy. Because how many days, was it before quarantine you met him, right? I met him, it's right when it started is when we started talking. It was like March, like 20 something. That's crazy.

crazy so it was like right yeah that's us too we're like March 14th so we're like a week away yeah like literally like that same isn't that wild yeah it is crazy it's such a good way to like count how many years you've been together because it's 2020 so it's like yeah next year four years yeah that's crazy at the same time too yeah I'm thinking about

my other job too. I'm thankful to work at ET. Yes! I'm kind of like thinking about it like I interned there when I was in 2012 when I was in college and that was like my dream when I was in college was to work there and I achieved it and sometimes I have to remind myself that. Yeah, and you're like

still working you have like seniority like they expect you they like flexible with you like they even like let you change your like schedule and stuff around like which is like really nice yeah and everyone there is amazing and it's like it is it could just it's just a grind sometimes as any job is like even though it's like kind of an unserious job in the scope of the world right but as far as jobs go it's definitely like a more fun one to have here i love it et is big

I mean, that's a huge one. And it's cool. It's cool when people like know that too, that, you know, that like, you're like, oh, I work for ET. I forgot to tell you. ET and JT. Oh my God. You're so, what? Tell me. I just remembered. I love it. I went in last, last Thursday. I was in the office and there was like a field, like a college field trip. And I was like busted down. Cause when you start work at five o'clock in the morning, like when you get ready and it's like, it's in God's hands. Like if you look cute or not. I looked rough and there was like a college field trip and I was like walking. And of course it was my freaking Taylor Swift merch. Like really? Oh my God. At the office? Yeah.

Yeah. I love that. Just casually walking and looking busted. And these college kids go, oh my God, is that Oscar? No. And I didn't hear them. And I go to sit down and then, Oscar, is that Oscar? And then the girl. Whispering? Yes. I love it. I love when they whisper and you hear them. Yeah. And then the girl that was like escorting them and giving them the tour was like, Oscar, they watched the podcast. And I was like, I was like.

I was got, I didn't know what to say. What did you do? I was just like, thank you so much. That's so sweet. I was like, yeah, because I did not expect. Well, you were wearing a Taylor Swift shirt, so they probably thought like. It was a giveaway. Yeah. The first thing they saw was, oh, I like your sweater. I was like, oh, thank you. Oh, it was a sweater. Yeah. What was the Taylor Swift? Was she on it? Yeah, it's on the Aries tour on the back. Oh my God. That's so, yeah, I imagine seeing you wearing a Taylor Swift sweater is just like camp. Yeah.

That's Oscar. It's like seeing you in a fast food uniform. For sure. For sure. Like, there's Trish in the McDonald's. Oh, my God. That's so cool. Wait, what were they doing a tour? It was, yeah. Like, it was a group of college kids that, like, want to work in broadcast. Oh, and they knew? I love when, like, college people know. I always get, like, really, no offense, I love the young kids, too, but I always get, like, really young. But, like, college people, you wouldn't think watch our show, but shout out college kids. I know. I was glad. Okay, I love. That's so exciting.

That's so exciting. Oh my God. Well, happy Thanksgiving. A lot to be thankful for. I love that. I have a lot to be thankful for this year too. And one being this past. Oh my God. I love this podcast. Yes, audience. Audience. Thank you. This is my fact checks. Yes. No, I'm super thankful for this podcast. Like it's so bizarre to me. I'm like always every, I think about it daily actually that it does so well. I'm so confused, perplexed and confused.

like sometimes I'm like yeah this makes sense in my head I'm like oh this will be a TV show next year you know what I mean so in like one hand I'm like wow it's like so weird people like it but on the other hand I'm like oh we'll definitely be at like the Sony lot next year you know what I mean so I see both but it's bizarre it's so cool I love it it feels like it

it's just like this resurgence and it feels so good to be like creative again. And I just, I'm so, I'm so happy for it. Obviously I'm thankful for you. You're number two. Well, I'm going to do this in a specific order because I'm going to say Malibu and Moses. And I'm going to be like, what? I'm so thankful for you because literally without you, this would be nothing. Uh, you just elevated it in so many ways. And I just love you. I've always had, I'm so excited to work together because I seriously feel like we try to work together so long. Yeah. And it's just when it's right and right, the flow, the energy, all that. Um,

Third, I'm thankful for Moses and Malibu, which they're really the first. I should probably put them first, but they're always my first in my gratitude journal. They're kind of like everything.

- I'll take it.

Because I would love to just be like, I would love some chicken nachos after this. You know what I mean? Because we always go to the same place. We go to a boss place after this, which I love. But I'm like, God, I really wish I could just whip up a steak and mashed potatoes. You know what I mean? So yes, thankful for Moses. And of course, for Malibu, because she's a star. Which, by the way, you're so freaking good with Malibu. You can't do the picture. Oh my God. She literally shocked, shook. She literally reached out for you to hold her. She was laying down on you. And her face was just...

Yeah, she has, she's very interesting. She has a very different reaction to each different person. Very different. She never did what she did with you. Like you, she just held her and she put her head on his shoulder and just. Oh my God. It was just. She never does that with anyone. Are you like a kid magnet? She was just pointing directions for me to walk. I'm like, okay, girl, let's go. And

I love her. Because that was like the first time. I mean, I guess you guys met briefly, but it was like the first time that that happened. I was like, oh my God, she loves you. It was so weird. It's so weird. Well, I think she watches the podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She listens to your voice. She hears it. And she's also kind of like a toddler, even though she's only 14 months. I mean, she's really long, so she kind of just holds herself. She's very tall. And it was so cute. And I was like, oh my God.

Oh my God. And then you're like, now I want a baby, which I think you totally should. Yes. They're just baby fever. A hundred percent. Like, especially like with the holidays, like that's like the best part. No. And then they get to open presents and get so excited. Yeah. So we have Jess Trish. I'm thankful for Oscar. I'm thankful for Moses. Thankful for Malibu. And I'm also thankful because I feel like you'll be like another great uncle to our second baby. Is this real? Yes. Let me fact check. Yes. Yeah. Do May 2024. We are pregnant.

I'm crying. Are you serious? No. Oh my gosh. What? What?

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What is happening? Okay. Production. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. I'm so happy for you guys. Thanks. There's our little baby. Oh, my God. We're 13 weeks today. Fully gagged me. Are you for real? Yeah. Fully gagged me. Oh, my God. And then when I saw you with Mel, I was like, oh, my God, you're so cute with our little baby, Uncle Oscar. Well, you're the first one to know. Oh, my God. Yeah, you're the first one we told, so...

Congratulations. Thanks. I'm like fully gagged. Wow. Yeah, me too. Oh my God, that's incredible. It's been so weird to like keep it a secret because like last time we announced so early and I don't know, this time I just, I don't know. When did you find out? October 3rd, which is Mean Girls Day. Oh my God, of course. Yeah.

When I was filming it, I was like, you guys, today's October 3rd. And I was like, oh, mean girls. But also, yeah, we find out. It's so weird. Yeah. It's been, it's crazy. I didn't know. We didn't know we were pregnant. You remember when I was like coughing a lot? I went to get an x-ray and you're not supposed to get x-rays when you're pregnant. So they gave me a pregnancy test there and it was so weird. They're like, it's negative. And I'm like, okay, which makes sense because it's been negative. We've been trying for so long. And I was like, okay, it's negative. They did the x-ray. And then like literally two weeks later, I was like pregnant. I was like, what?

I wasn't pregnant at the time. So she did it and it said negative. So we thought we're not pregnant that month, you know? So by the time she checked again, because you were already like four weeks into it. I was like five weeks. Yeah. I was like six or five. Yeah. Five or six. Yeah. She was just leaving the house and on the way out, she was like, let me check. Yeah. I was shocked. No, we've been all negative, negative, negative. Yeah.

And then we weren't really trying to remember because I was like kind of sick. I was like kind of like coughing all the time and we were just busy and stuff. So it just didn't, I don't know. But we don't know, we'll know the gender. We go to Wednesday to find out the gender. Oh my God, that's no gender reveals. Yeah, no gender reveals. But you know, but we will.

How did you do that? Where did this came from? I didn't even know that. Did you see the balloons? I saw that. I didn't even think anything of it. Oh, you didn't? Our set's always a little crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. How did you release it? What did you do? We got pyrotechnics here. That was wild. Oh, my God. That was just crazy. So, yeah. That is so exciting. Thank you. What a year. I watched it.

- What a year. It's wild. Like we did not think, I did not think I was gonna get pregnant. I don't know. It's just always really hard for us to get pregnant. And we like try, try, try like every single day and it's like, doesn't happen. And then I know it's like the worst thing to hear when you're trying to get pregnant, but they say like when you stop trying and it was like, not by choice, we stopped trying, but it was like, I got sick. - My prediction was that it's gonna happen in Vegas 'cause we're trying to bring Elvis. - Oh yeah. Did you see behind Moses that last week was Elvis. - I've been having that for a little while. Elvis has been there. - That's our name.

Whether it's a boy or girl, it's Elvis. So you know it's Elvis. Yeah, the little thing, yeah. And then, yeah, because with Malibu, it was like, you know, that whole pregnancy was ASMR. Yeah. It was a very specific time. And for this baby, I'm excited because it's going to be the just Trish. The just Trish baby. There's so much, but it's so much love and so much...

Positivity. Positivity coming from people towards us and towards... Well, I'm just going to get bigger in this chair. So watch it shrink. It's going to be ginormous by the end of it. It's going to be cool for people to follow the pregnancy with us. That's so exciting. Yeah. I'm excited. Yeah, it's crazy because it's like we found out so late and...

so it's like May already. It's like the baby's coming in May. I'm like, oh my God, that's like literally like six months away. So, so the talk show could still happen in the fall. I'll have my baby in May. We can take June, July. What about White Lotus? Yeah. Oh, oh, well, they just announced that they're filming in February. So I guess White Lotus, if you need a five month, six month pregnant person by then, I'll come to Thailand. I told you I might have the baby in Thailand. I think I said that in a previous episode. I was like,

guess we'll just stay over there and have the baby. So I know I had a little panic attack. Malibu was in the Maldives, you know. That's true. She was. We can have the baby in Thailand. They need to go somewhere. I saw that they're starting to film in February and I was like, oh man. I knew that was going to happen as soon as I got pregnant. They're starting to cast, but we'll go over there. Like it's fine. If you need a pregnant person, I'll be visibly pregnant. I'm already visibly pregnant. I'm like four months, but because last time my organs didn't go down, like it's still, it feels like I'm like nine months pregnant right now. So it's, it's there.

there and yeah I've been very hungry this pregnancy also yeah the baby's like more active like you said the first pregnancy was ASMR so I was very chill and Malibu was just in one position with her leg over her head the entire time now we go for ultrasound and the baby's like jumping all the time like it's so crazy it's so weird so it's a very different I feel it might like it feels so different so I'm thinking boy but then I'm like it's probably gonna be a girl because I don't know we're just like girl vibes over here so and I like to have a sister and a brother and I love my brother but like as closer to my sister so I feel like sisters are kind of the vibe but

you think of like, we're done after this, by the way, after two. So one and like two and that's it. So then you think, oh boy, girl would be cute, but definitely not all boys like you. Oh my God. Like you is great, but I mean like five, five boys. Oh my God.

I think we talked about that before where I was just like, no, thank you. So no offense. I mean, honestly, if you have all boys, that's a blessing too. Everything's a gift. Okay, of course. And we would like boys. If you have five boys, that's amazing. We might just have girls. But we love a girl too. We'd love both. That's why I said Elvis for both. I think girls is kind of a vibe. Like we're just an all-girl fam. But I think also, I don't know. Part of me, I mean, Malibu looks just like Moses, but Malibu was such a

cute or Moses was just such a cute boy like a cute teenage I'll send you teenage pics of Moses to insert he is like so handsome like Moses is very handsome now but as a young boy like a man he looked like a backstreet boy or something and it's kind of shocking I don't know I guess because I met you with the long hair and you had hippie vibes so seeing you as like preppy Abercrombie I was kind of like oh this is like

Okay. So then I'm like, oh, it'd be cute to have like a, I don't know. Maybe that's like weird. Someone's going to be like, oh, Trish, you should have, but like to have a boy that looks like, it looks like, probably ends up looking like me. And I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry that you're short and like, no wrong being short and stubby, but Matt was very long and tall. Anyways, we'll be happy with any baby we have. So, yeah. So there's that. We just like to be healthy and-

Healthy baby. As long as it's healthy. And the heartbeat's been good. And Malibu will be such a great older sister. So it's like whatever, you know, whatever it is. Oh, she already is like feeding, like she has a little baby she feeds. Yeah, it's really cute. Yeah, we're getting her ready. We don't have to be in shock. Yeah. She came to one of our appointments with us. She's like looking at the baby and yeah. Oh, hi.

Yeah. We're pregnant. That is so exciting. Yeah. It's so weird because we've been keeping it safe for so long and I never feel pregnant. Like I don't feel pregnant. I guess one of the symptoms is being cold. I was really cold for a while. Oh, yeah. Which I didn't really know. Yeah. That's why she was cold. Oh, my God. So first pregnancy too, she was really cold. Yeah. It's so weird. Because basically your blood flow goes in there. You know, the placenta has been like all that. There's so much water going. So your blood flow is much lower in your body. So you get cold. Oh, my God.

That's why we're cold and everything. And tired. Oh, tired too. And I've been hungry this time. Usually the first one I was not hungry. I was hungry. I just didn't eat a lot. This time I eat like a ton. So I don't know. I just feel it's different. But who knows? Different pregnancy. I hope it's as easy as last time. Last time I was like such a breeze. I loved being pregnant. It was like the happiest ever. I just loved it.

I can be pregnant all day long. It's like the birthing part's hard, but yeah. But the podcast will go on. We're going to pre-record interviews. We're not going to miss a beat, okay? We will be here even if it's for an hour. We're going to do the podcast because I worked giving birth. I was like, film this. Like we need to, you know, I work. I worked the day. I worked up until giving birth the day before and then like literally right after. So I'm a worker. We're going to continue this. If you want to have the talk show, we're ready for fall 2024 and White Lotus, we're happy to go over there.

February 2024 because you know, I'll be I'll be pregnant. We'll just have the baby over there. I think Thailand's beautiful. Anyway, they have to write the part for you. So they'll just write it as a pregnant person in there. I mean, this whole season's about death. So maybe not. That'd be kind of morbid. Oh, yeah. Life and death. That's true. We have a little rebirth thing. Reincarnation. That would be cool. Anyways, I would love to be on White Lotus 3, but I don't know.

- I also would rather be pregnant, so it's fine. I knew that was gonna happen though. I've been saying this, I'm like, I've been holding off getting pregnant in case White Lose Three, then the after strike happened. I was like, oh no, now we're delaying this. And then I thought, well maybe they'll film at the end of 2024 and we can go over as a family, but it didn't work out. I also got this for you for our little snack time. Can I throw it, can you catch it? Are you gonna catch? I'm a bad thrower. Wow, good job. - Thank you so much.

So if we need a little pick me up. Yes. Not sponsored by M&M's. But you know, because when we go out on our bathroom breaks, I sneak these in. I always am like, let me just do it. And then you're like, I'll have some. I'm like, okay. So we have a little bag. You can just have them on. Oh my, this is so sweet. Oh my God. Literally sweet. I'm so emotional today. Oh my God. Me too.

It's a little birthday or baby celebration. I love this. Balloons. Oh, my God. That just freaked me out. I was like, where did those go? Oh, my God. And Robert Pattinson's having his baby, I think, at the same time. Oh, my God. Wow. Are they like siblings? I think they're similarly along in Sookie Waterhouse. Oh, really? Oh, my God. First of all, we'd love.

Would love to have a play date. But they're like British, right? I think Sookie is from, I think she's American. I don't know where in America. Well, they're probably like going to raise their babies in England or something. I don't think they could have play dates or something like that, which is iconic. I love being pregnant twins with people. Rihanna was pregnant the same time I was the first time. And I just love when there's like pregnancy people too. Because then you just feel like you're part of something and everything. So yeah, we love a little pregnant moment. You get the vibe with Sookie. She announced it wearing like a pink sparkly dress. And she was performing at like a music festival. Oh, I love it.

I don't really know. I know the name, of course. But is she known for... Is she on Vampires or something? She's an actress. She was in that show. Oh, my God. Why am I forgetting it? It was the one with Elvis' granddaughter. Oh, Daisy Jones. Yes. Yeah, she was on that show. And she's also like an indie singer. But everyone's saying, Taylor Lautner, stay away from this baby. We don't need no imprinting.

Oh my God. How awful. Like you have that your whole life. You're like a character you play and then people just think you're that character. Although he kind of is that character because he's like flipping all the time. So flipping, yeah. Oh man. They should have a baby, the Taylors. Because if they have a baby at the same time, then they could be so cute. Oh my God, yeah. You should name it. Honestly, for real, a baby name on our list was Renesmee. Like I swear. Oh,

When she was born when Mal was born she looked like Renesmee not the CGI baby, but the animatronic baby they had she looked just like her

God, if Robert Pattinson named his daughter Renesmee or Baby, that'd be everything. Do you think he would? Oh my God. How iconic. I think Taylor is more likely to name it Nessie after that's what. That would be cute. You name my baby after the Loch Ness Monster? Like, I could see him. That was a good delivery. Thank you. Nessie would be so cute too, actually, though. I love that.

love all names. I think they're so cute, but I've always manifested Malibu and Elvis. It's always been the names I've said, so that's it. And if we have a third one, we have literally no names for it, so that can't happen. I'm just like, well. Renesmee. Then the third one is definitely Renesmee. Then the third one is definitely Renesmee. I don't know. Three, two? Two sounds like a lot. I'm already scared. You know you want to get pregnant, then you do, and then you're just like, oh my gosh, this is going to be terrifying. I don't know how people

how people do two kids I don't know how people do five kids it's amazing people who have more than two kids like how because like there's only two parents so how do you have two kids like what's the third one doing like you know what I mean like you can't watch all of them it's impossible for me the age difference between my brothers so like they were able to like watch me most because that's like 8 10 12 like 14 year difference between us between me and them so watch you babysit babysit but you know oh my god that's not a

a lot of pressure though to give to your kid like watch your other baby brother you're all our babies oh my god that's wild but I was an easy kid because you know I think you're a similar way we would just like watch TV and like oh for sure yeah yeah snacks TV super easy and you're the baby right yeah yeah I think Malibu was too young to watch her sibling she's only gonna be like a year and a half two under two

- Yeah, so there's that. - That's so exciting. - That's all that. I was hiding my little ultrasound here. - It's sneaky, oh my God. - It's a little sneaky, yeah. I was very excited. We've been hiding it. We've been giving house tours to all our guests and they've been just like, the ultrasound's on the table, but I don't think no one's noticed yet. I guess you wouldn't if you're not trying to have babies. I guess no one would notice. - Yeah, and we have a young baby, so it's like, they just assume it somehow relates to the one we already have. - That's true, yeah.

It's like an old ultrasound or something like that. Are gender reveals banned? Because we were going to do a gender reveal. Is it banned? I have no idea. Oh, okay. I don't know. We're doing a gender reveal. I'm so confused. Some people hate gender reveals, but I feel like they're kind of just part of like baby culture. Don't you think? No, I think too. It's kind of like, hey, this is fun. As long as it's not like, there was one where they used all like pyrotechnics and then they started like a huge fire. So as long as you don't have any pyrotechnics. Those are wild. Yeah. Anything damaging to the environment.

are wild. You know, here's the thing. I go back and forth gender reveals because I do. I love the whole idea of like there's no gender for anyone and I love that. I just think for like a baby, like you've got to like have a direction. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, all this is

Elvis is a, it could be a masculine name, but we'd give it to a girl. You know what I mean? So like, and as far as clothes go, we buy boy clothes from Apple all the time because they're like really cute. Like we'll have like a dinosaur clothes. Like we, they have really cute suspenders. Like we put her in boy clothes too. So it's not, to me, it's not like boy, girl, anything. It's just like, you kind of need like a, I don't know, like a direction. And then they could change their direction. I don't know. You know what I mean? Yeah. And you know what? The gender, someone did tell us the pride.

No, the trans flag is kind of like a gender reveal. Because at first I was like, ooh, we shouldn't say gender reveal. But they're like, it's kind of gender reveal because it's like them revealing their new gender. Oh, I love that. Yeah. So I was like, okay. I was like, at first I was like, oh my God, not gender reveal. But, you know, because it's good. It's good if you like, you know, know your gender. But it's also okay to not know your gender. So anyways. Yeah. I feel like it's like a starting point. And then whatever the kid decides, you know, how are they intrusive, identify. But that's how I would think of it too. Like.

I would fully support my child, like choosing whatever they want to be, but like, you kind of have to start somewhere. Like you need like a foundation and then we can kind of go from there. Then pick. Okay. But I, or not even pick, but just like, well, you can, whatever you are, be whoever you are. But you know, what's really cool is we had a Barbie theme because a lot of people again came for me because it's like, okay, you gave her name Malibu Barbie. It's hyper feminine. And then the birthday party was Barbie, but we had more little boys at a party just cause like our friends just have like boys. We had like four girls, four boys, I think. And,

the boys like loved Barbie. Like the parents would send us a thing like, oh, it's his first Barbie because we had like party favors and they had their first Barbie. They were like playing with it. Another one had a Barbie watch and like, oh, he's obsessed with his Barbie watch. So one, I love that the parents were like so cool to let their kid like play with Barbie. And two, I love that these little boys were like loving Barbie and not thinking like, ew, it's a girl thing or something like that. I also thought it was cool this morning. Malibu was in the glam and she loves these like beauty sponges and she's always doing my face. But then my hair guy today is Jason and she went over and started doing his hair.

I started doing his makeup. And I love that she just doesn't even see anything. She just knows, like, you can get some makeup and you can get some makeup. And I feel like, I don't know. I just feel like that's the world we're growing up in. We're growing up in a world where it's like, you know, there's two gender parents. And you don't even think about it. You know what I mean? Because we have, like, friends that have a daughter that's Malibu's age. And, you know, there's Papa and then there's Dada and stuff like that. And it's just cool because it's like you just see it. And you don't have to be told, like, oh, this is different or this is that. You just see it. You know, it's like, oh, there's two dads or two moms.

And also just in general, I saw a TikToker talk about how Gen Alpha is like lucky because like dads are just being more involved. Like we went to like an event and it was like all the dads like were actually like involved, which I know you said you had a really active, like involved dad. But like, I feel like everybody I know, just their dads, even if they were present, they weren't taking you into rehearsals. They just like come to the recital. They weren't like involved, you know? And now I think everybody we know like,

My makeup artist husband, everything who's like obsessed with his daughter and stuff. Everyone's just so hands-on now as a dad, which is like so cool too. I love that like this generation is all about –

the dad's being involved with the kids which is like what a concept but like they just never were like i don't know my dad he again he was like there but he was like in california we saw him in the summers whatever like you know i don't know it's cool now that they're being involved you know if you're lucky enough to have a dad i pray every day i'm like please let moses live 50 years because we need him forever but anyways i just think it's cool that this generation is more open-minded and just doesn't even think about like oh makeup on a girl or not a boy i don't know it's cool

world. I love it. And I know people are like, oh, I want to bring kids into the world right now. But I think it's changing. I think it's getting better. I mean, it is still scary, but I think like as a human race, we're like evolving more. We have a little more compassion and openness for the most part. Yeah. And they're the future. So, you know, if you only get better if you bring in kids who are treating them well. Yeah. I mean, you know,

You know, raise them good. Raise them right. And I don't know. Part of me also thinks they just like, I don't know. They just know. They're just smarter. I think the next generation is just always smarter and knows. I have faith for Gen Alpha. Gen Z, I don't know. But Gen Alpha. They're coming through with everything, with all the support and inclusivity. And we love it. I'll probably do a gender reveal. I don't know. Maybe our first episode back we'll do a little gender reveal. Oh, that would be cute. Yeah. Unless it's.

Not allowed. I don't know. I guess we'll find out after this episode. You guys let me know. I just think they're fun. I just think they're so fun. And I'm not going to lie. We knew the gender before we did our gender reveal. Everyone's supposed to be surprised, but when you get that call, it's a few days after you do the test, and you get the call, and you're like, do you want to know the gender? How do people say

people say no i have no self-control no tell us right now like we knew so but we still did a gender reveal for everyone else because it's just fun you know but i would love to huh it's fun to let people know like it was fun it was as exciting to see all their reactions yeah let them know and see their reaction then we got excited i would love to be surprised i was just like i can't wait like i do love the idea of like taking into a bakery and having this cake and being like oh my gosh you know but i know you can't like we you know when we go into the x-ray the imaging the ultrasound you

You can't hide it. Like you'll see, you see what they are. Oh really? Yeah. You can tell. It's like harder to see. I think they have to tell you. We could see. We haven't seen yet. I don't know. We'll see. This baby, whatever it is, is jumping and excited and active. And I feel none of it, which is crazy. I feel like never, I never have symptoms. I never get sick. Like it's very bizarre. Yeah. Just tired and hungry sometimes. It's a blessing to have such a nice pregnancy. Very calm. It is crazy. And that's what we were talking about earlier with bodies. And it's like,

My last pregnancy, I was like, again, like so happy, so blessed. Like it was completely healthy. You know, you have to do a, like you can get gestational diabetes, which is like very easy to get. I didn't have that. Like I just was like clean the whole way through. Like everything was just perfect bill of health, which is like, so then you have to start thinking like, okay, my body is healthy. Like it is strong. It's, you know, able to, not that it's like, it's not if you can't, you know, if you have any of that stuff, but sometimes I have to be more appreciative of that. It's like,

Because I mean diabetes and gestational diabetes, they kind of explain to it that like it's not really about your weight. It's not even about the sugar you intake. It's kind of like how your body breaks down sugar. My body is very good at breaking down sugar because I've been eating it forever. So I guess it's good. It's trained. You know? Yeah. So I've been lucky. And again, it doesn't have to do with sugar intake. People just get it. But yeah, last pregnancy was wonderful. So I'm hoping it's smooth sailing. And then I'll just look pewter in this chair. This chair is going to look so tiny by the end of it, especially because it's like full body. But I didn't pop until like –

month eight or nine we'll see anyways we have hot topics well this is the hottest there was actually too many hot topics i was like no they're taking away from right now because i had a planned announcement for thanksgiving and i just don't want to wait anymore because it's like i don't know i was just excited and then i was like wait no there's so many hot topics i should save it for a week that doesn't have any hot topics you know

But that's not going to happen today because, but we have a lot. We did our Thanksgiving. We did our M&M's. Turkey ice cream. Yeah.

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All right. What's your hot topics today? Oh, my God. I have so many, too. So many. I'm trying to figure out where to start. Where to start because there's so many different silly ones. The gay nutcracker. Wait, what? I thought that would be on the top of your list. That's on the top of my list. I want to dress as the gay nutcracker. Everyone's so upset about it. At Target, I wanted to go get it. Oh, man. I didn't see it at our Target. I didn't see it at my Target either. Did you see it, though? No. Have you heard about it? It's all over Fox News. They're all mad. I'm like, why? About the gay nutcracker? Yeah. Exactly.

that gay. He just has like some rainbows and a pride, like a trans flag. Like he literally just looks like a regular nutcracker. I was like, people are just weird. They act like they're in like crazy sex positions or something. It's like literally just that. There's also, they were upset about Santa being black in a wheelchair. Oh, I did see that. And I was like, what?

It's like Fox News. And I don't know why it's not on my TikTok page, all Fox News. But it's like, why are these people so upset? And also white people complaining about this. I'm like, you need to like not – a white straight guy is complaining about this. I'm like, this looks bad on you. Like why would you even talk? Yeah. That's such a weird thing to like go against. It's crazy because like if it's not for you, just don't buy it. But like – Yeah. It's for someone else. Like that's what I don't understand. It's like, okay, if you don't like it, then it's not like you're being forced to buy it or even have it in your home.

Right. But they're not, like, mailing it to you and, like, forcing it on your doorstep. Just, like, keep it moving. What's the propaganda? What's the hate campaign against, like, Target? It's so weird. It's like, oh, my God, they're selling gay pride nutcrackers. So woke. Yeah. It's weird. Like, it's such a weird thing. I know. It's just a matter of, like, representation, like, giving consumers options to purchase things that, like, represent them or their ideals or what they can relate to. And that's weird.

what's so bad about it? It's so weird. I know. It's especially when they were like coming for like the black Santa and the, and the witch. I'm like, that literally sounds like a hate crime that you're doing against this like statue. Like you're literally like, Oh my God, why would they do that? I was like, that's such a weird thing to complain about. God forbid. I,

I don't know. I'm here for all of it. I love all of it. I love all of it. I think it's, you know, it's good. I suppose Santa gets boring after a while, so I would love to have- Mix it up. Yeah, give people options. Yeah, mix it up. And I think it's just, yeah, have a variety. I don't know. Also, Santa's creepy. Like, our Santa version that was at the mall for so many years is, like, creepy. I saw Santa at Disney World, and he was African American, and he just looked so- His, like, you know what? His hair, everything looked so much better. I mean, I think he was, like, wearing a wig and stuff. Maybe they upgraded it because it's Disney World, but, like, our mall Santas are a little scary. I tried to take her there, and I was just like-

are like guys that haven't washed their beards in a while. No offense to mall Santas, but the ones that are, we'll just talk about our mall here in T.O. They definitely are just Santas that look like that all year round and they do not wash their beards.

Because we were going to go last year and I was just like, ooh, that's not clean. So maybe they upped it this year. I don't know. No offense to any Santas. I mean, if you're a white Santa, it's fine too. But the ones who look like Santa all year round always creep me out a little bit because I'm like, ooh, why? Why are you choosing that aesthetic all year round? I don't know. You know, like choose one, a white beard or a white hair. Don't like have both or be jolly.

All right. No gay nutcracker. I guess that's not what we're dressing up this year. It's so cute. I want it. We'll find it. We'll find it for the set. If you see it, keep your eyes open. I will. Yeah. We got it at Walmart too and get the happy snacks. That's what I was thinking about too. Okay. We'll try and get that for next week. Okay. What's the top story? What's your top story? Okay. Well, I mean, there's top and then there's like, I feel like we've got to work our way. The top is the gay nutcracker. I really want to talk about this though. This isn't, this is a story that I feel personally invested in now. The drama between Tana and Brooke. Have you been following the birthday drama? Oh,

okay, kind of, but just on TikTok, like I haven't really followed it. Yeah. Yeah. Whenever I know people, I always try not to get invested in the drama because I'm like, oh my God, like this is like real people. I feel

like they don't care so much. Same. Yeah, you know what I mean? But I would care so deeply if there was like drama about this like not coming to my birthday party. Okay, tell me a little bit about it. Let's fill people in. Okay, so last week on Cancel, towards the end, it was like the last like five minutes, a conversation happened between Tana and crew and Brooke where they were talking about how Brooke's birthday is this year, like the day after Thanksgiving. I think it's November 26th. Right, but it changes every year. It changes every year. It's not always after Thanksgiving. Not her birthday, but the day after Thanksgiving. Yeah, Thanksgiving.

So a lot of the times people – she'll make plans to celebrate her birthday and then they'll cancel because of the holidays or whatever. So this year she just said that she straight up is not inviting anyone and she's going to do something separate for her birthday because everyone always cancels on her and she gets really disappointed by it. Yeah. And this sparked like a huge debate about –

Were they upset? I didn't see this part. Well, Tana was just kind of explaining, like, to her, birthdays, like, aren't that big of a deal or any, like, big day in general. She said, like, you can miss my wedding and I would understand. I mean, she doesn't care about anything. Like, you can literally, like, make out with her boyfriend. She's like, it's fine. Like, she, like, which is crazy. That's the best way to be. I could never. Yeah. But for Brooke, she said specifically, like, birthdays for her, like, are a really big deal. Yeah. And that she always shows up to her friends' birthdays and she would hope that her friends show up to celebrate her birthday. Yeah.

And then it sparked this whole debate, like, in the comment section on, like, are these...

Does Brooke need better friends, et cetera, et cetera. And then Brooke flew out to the East Coast. She did the Plan Brie podcast live or whatever. Slay. And then Tana and Co. had like a Friendsgiving. And this is where I was like, what is going on? Oh, I didn't know this, T. I was really following the breadcrumbs. Get that back on. We'll have Brooke and Tana. We have to. I almost wanted to like get a statement. I was like, Brooke, can you release this statement? Oh, my God. She follows you. God.

Oh my God. Guess you're getting statements from people. Because they had a Friendsgiving and everyone, you know, it was the whole Tana and Co. Like they're all characters, all personalities. They're all doing different Friendsgiving TikToks. Lila's there stirring some pot. Oh my God. Lila's why I love her. She's always like, I want to come on the podcast. I'm like, girl, I have to censor every word you say.

Okay. They said that they did a podcast with Lila and they can't air the episode because it was so unhinged. No, she's so wild. Everything she does. And it's great. But like, honestly, what to do on Patreon? Patreon episode. Because she, like, YouTube would never allow. But Brooke said that Lila never misses a birthday party. So she's kind of shading. But anyway, so the whole TikTok group was like doing Friendsgiving TikToks. And then Brooke tweeted and deleted ironic dot, dot, dot.

the same day that the Friendsgiving was going on. Oh, like saying she like, it's ironic that that was happening while she was gone, but maybe they don't know her schedule. Like to be fair, I'm a Brooke fan. I'm a fan. But like I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't assume someone knows my schedule. And it is technically, like it's the weekend before Thanksgiving weekend, so it makes sense. When people do their Friendsgiving. It's always like a Friendsgiving. Yeah. Yeah. But I've been like so invested in it because I kind of see both sides, but now I'm like, Brooke, I would go to your birthday party. I would too. Although birthdays to me are not a big deal. Like I'm not a big birthday like person. Oh, birthdays are a big deal. Maybe it's a border

line thing maybe because we both have that mental illness maybe we both because i am very bad birthdays i'm very big like i used to always throw big parties for myself it's also like a thing yeah interesting it's also a thing like if she's and i always throw parties for myself again this is like no shade but if she's like putting something together for herself yeah you already kind of feel like someone should be doing this for me which they should but you know if you're the one having to do it and then no one shows up on top of that like it really really sucks

Now, granted, it is awful to have a birthday around Thanksgiving because, yeah, people are out of town. I think it's like Christmas too. It's like you almost have to do it like the month – like a couple weeks before because it is hard. But there's some type of way –

Again, I'm not really in the crew, but they seem to always be doing stuff like for each other's birthdays and stuff. You know what I mean? Like Amari, they went to like Vegas on a private jet. Well, that was the other thing too. So Tana is – when she was here, like she was saying how busy she is around Halloween. But Amari's birthday was in October too and she had to go and have a whole Vegas thing in the middle of all her Halloween stuff. So the viewers were like, well, if she's still celebrating Amari's birthday in the middle of Halloween, why can't she celebrate Thanksgiving and Brooke's birthday?

Because I know Amari and her are definitely just closer just by how many times. Yeah. Like she said, I think she said she was like adopted by his mom. Like they're just like by association just being together longer. And I don't know. I don't know. It's so hard to tell because I'm kind of an outsider in this situation. I don't know like if they're, it's like you and me, right? Like are they just together on the podcast? And not that we are not friends outside of it. It's just like,

I don't really hang out with people. So it's like, to me, Brooke comes across as like she likes to be alone and maybe doesn't go out all the time with them. Like I never see her out. And I always think that's like her choice because it seems like she likes to be alone, which is how I would be. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of hard to tell. I don't know. It's so hard to tell in this situation. Because like how close are they? Yes, they're close and they're obviously good friends. It's like I consider you a close friend, but we don't hang out all the time. You know what I mean? And so is it that same situation? I don't know. It's so tough because I always think now like, okay, if it was your birthday party, I'd

Like, I would make the... I don't know. I'd now go out. So I don't know. Same. That's not it, too. But I think... It's hard. If someone made it really clear that the whole event was, like, dependent on me being there and, like, they would be really disappointed if I wasn't there, then I'd be like, I gotta, like, you know, go out and I gotta be there. But it is hard Thanksgiving, like, family stuff. And it's also, like... But then... That's why I keep going back and forth. Yeah. Because Brooke's like, well, I'll work with your schedules. Like, it doesn't have to be, like, the day after Thanksgiving. Yeah. So I go back and forth. I'm like...

I don't understand. I know. I honestly don't know either. I don't know. It's hard. And it's like, again, I'm trying to think of your perspective. It's like a future birthday and we're working so close together. Like I would really make it a point to go, but I don't think I've ever been to anyone's birthday parties and I get invited, like, you know, my glam people and stuff like that. But it's really just because like, it's hard for me to like go out. But I guess it's like...

Like you're actually like really close friends. They know. They're like, hey, I know you're not. And usually she would give them a gift earlier and we do something earlier with them. I definitely always do gifts for sure. Yeah, like a smaller thing. Yeah. But they know her well. And I'm the opposite. Like my birthday is right before Halloween. Oh, yeah. So I actually push it to Halloween. I'm like, okay, let's celebrate it on Halloween.

- On Halloween. - Yeah, we did a Halloween party for you. - It's kind of an exciting thing. - But Thanksgiving's not the equivalent because you can't just do like, let's all celebrate Thanksgiving on your birthday. - Right, so I'm saying it depends on what holiday it is. And Thanksgiving's like a family holiday. So you just push it. - Mine's always on Mother's Day and believe it or not, people are like not around on Mother's Day. Like people are always like away on Mother's Day. So. - So I was just pushing that. - But they are such party people. They're just such crew people where they're like always doing something. So you would feel some type of way. Like it's almost like when I was like in the vlog squad, not to throw back, but.

I had a tour. I had a tour for like three months and it like sold out because I think people thought David would show up. So my tour was sold out. And not one of those freaking vlog squad members ever came to my birthday or to my tour. Like not one show. And they would go to everyone's tour. They would go to freaking Scottie Sire's tour. No offense, Scottie. But you know what I mean? Every episode. Bolognese, Scottie Sire.

No, but I just remember them going to so many Scottie Sire shows. And I get it. He was in the front group longer. But I was a big part of those vlogs for like a year. I was in every single thumbnail. So I was just like, how are you not going to come to one show? Even when it's in LA. You can't come to an LA show. I'm dating someone from this group and you can't even come.

It was bad. Like no one came. So that's why I kind of know when you think back on like friendships in general, I'm just like, oh yeah, like Shane didn't come. Like no one came and I knew Shane for like, it's very bizarre. So I get that feeling of like, okay, we're a crew. You guys come out for everything, celebrate everything. Were they, was she genuinely upset? What was she saying? Or were they, were they genuinely upset that she wasn't inviting them? Because good

for her for doing like her own thing like it's like yeah no one comes to my birthday so I'm gonna just do my own thing they weren't like upset like Ari was doing a lot of the talking he was just kind of like talking about it but not like in an upset way yeah then it is it was all kind of weird though because it broke also like end of the podcast like really abruptly because they were still kind of talking about it Tana was like yeah I know I have to buy her something really good for her birthday this year and she was like what no that's so me that's canceled yeah just like kind of wrapped it up like oh

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Yeah, I would buy them something. I'd buy her something really expensive. I'd be like, that's actually what I do. I usually give people like bonus checks like for their birthday. Like I'm like, oh, I can't go to your birthday, but like here's $500 or something like that. Like I always do that. Like, you know, because I do feel bad. Like I know I want people to show up for me, but it's like it's really hard for me to like get out of the house. So now I think with Malibu, we make so much more effort. We've been to more parties in the past year than like literally my entire life. Like I think I've been to like 10 kids' birthday parties. And kids' birthday parties are very mutual. Like if you go, like they come and bring, you know, like it's very that. Yeah.

What is she doing for her birthday this year? Did she say? No, she didn't say. She just said she's wearing something separate. Maybe we should go. Oh, yeah. We surprised her with our San Diego sweatshirts. It's a Brooke party. I love that. Oh, well. Oh, and then she was – that TikTok live where she was wearing the San Diego sweatshirt, she even talked about it a little bit in there. She said, well, it seems like a lot of comments are on the right side, the side that anyone would be on. Her side? Yeah.

Well, at least she has, like, a sun table. She seems, both of them, both of them seems to, like, let things go very, which I'm actually more proud of Brooke because Brooke, she has what I have, which is borderline, and it is hard to let things go. Like, it's, like, you hang on to that more, whereas opposed to Tana, I mean, she just, like, doesn't care about anything, which is, like, a good, in the best way, like, literally, like, her friends will, like, make out with a guy or whatever, hook up with people, and she, like, doesn't care. I'm like, that's amazing. So, Tana's really cool that she can, like, let things go. I think that's, like, such a good trait to have, but it's really cool that Brooke can just let things go and be funny about it. That's one of the

I also think like in a work relationship and stuff like that, it's just like, again, I don't know how close they are as far as like friends in real life. Do they talk on the phone? Are they sharing like that stuff? Or are they just see each other for, in a way, I think like when we just see each other for the podcast, there's just so much more to catch up on, right? Yeah.

We text. We text each other and it's very short but I always just feel like if we were on the phone all the time we would be like oh we already talked about this or something. You know what I mean? Especially because I think sometimes don't they film like a couple episodes like back to back or something? I think that particular one it was the day before we did the Brooke episode. She didn't review it because she wanted to a lot of people want to review our episodes and they don't have any edits or anything like that but

We didn't get the episode until 7, but she was filming. She told me she filmed like five podcasts in one night that night. And so she didn't get done until like 2 a.m. And I was like, oh, I think because they must be traveling or something. So especially in that case, then it kind of makes sense that they are together to like work and like film or do the tour or whatever and then like kind of take a break. But not like a shady, you know, way or anything. But just like a kind of like balance. Yeah. I want to know what she's doing now. I don't know. I –

Yeah. I saw the drama. Isn't it funny that there's like drama like that from the podcast? I guess that's good for them because then people watch the podcast. Yeah. I guess people invest in it. Yeah. But I think the only thing I will say, I don't, I don't like when people are too hard on like, oh, Tana must be like a bad friend or Brooke needs better friends. Yeah. Brooke is like, she's also, you know, she's an adult and I think she would know if people like were actually bad friends, like she would, you know. Not be around them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And she would have that knowledge. Oh, I'm like the worst friend. I would say that. As far as like,

I just... I'm just so bad at, like, texting, talking, like, showing up for things and stuff like that. Like, I... So I think a lot of friendships also just fail because of me because it's just, like, I'm just so... Yeah. I don't know. I'm just, like... I don't know. I've never been that person because I didn't grow up with friends. And honestly, like, my mom didn't really have, like, friends coming over to the house. Like, she didn't really have, like, friends. Like, I don't know. I never really saw friendship. So...

It's bizarre. I think it's cool. Like, especially someone like Tana who has, like, 20 friends and they're all, like, super close. Like, I, like, love that. I think that's cool. It's such a cool vibe. But I just wouldn't even know how to, like, nurture those friendships or anything. Like, someone DM'd me, a TikToker. Actually, she's, like, a Broadway person. She DM'd me and she was like, we should hang out. And then I was like, if you're ever going to come to the podcast, then I was thinking, oh, I think she might just want to hang out. But to me, this is hanging out. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. But, yeah, friendships are very – I can't ever chime in on friendship stuff because I'm always just like, I don't even know how that even works. Like, I would just expect –

I don't know. In one hand, I would expect everyone to come to my birthday. But in the other hand, I would expect no one to come to my birthday. My birthday is people have notoriously said they're all like, oh, they're just people that work for you. But I'm like, that's the people I see, you know, like my glam people. Those are my friends. And, you know, that's it. I don't know. I get along with everyone I work with. So I consider them my friends. I'm just like my birthday is like it was so low key. Like last year for my birthday, my big thing was just getting like McDonald's breakfast. And I was like, oh, my God, that's like every day here.

This year we did nothing. Well, we go to Mastro's, but I mean, honestly, that's kind of like a monthly thing. I mean, it is very nice. We had a very low key birthday this year, but that's a whole other conversation. I was low key. It was just like a lot, but I was like making a big deal on my birthday. But now that I have like a baby, you got to save up for those baby birthday parties because those are so expensive for those balloon arches. But yeah.

And then now with her, we have to be social. So I try to nurture my relationships a little better because it's like, you know, she needs to have friends and stuff, you know, and it's just, you know, it's hard all your time, all your socializing goes to that now. So we're always just like looking for people who have babies. I'm like, Oh, do you have a baby? Let's get together.

Robert Pattinson, Zuki Waterhouse. We could have a little baby play date. Hilary Duff always has like mom play dates with like Mandy Moore. And so I think their kids are a little older and they have like Ashley Tisdale in the group and they do these like, yeah. I was like, oh man, I wish I knew that. Yeah. That's the mom category. I don't know any like moms out. Rihanna, I guess. Hit me up. I think Quentin Tarantino had a baby the same time we had a baby too. So anyways, all of that. That's tea. Yeah. I saw clips of it. I always see clips of tea.

the canceled podcast on TikTok. I watch it. I watch it. But like I, you know, on drives. It's funny what gets picked up and like becomes a thing from canceled. I know. It's so funny. It's also funny what gets picked up from here. Not to talk about our show again, but it's like, like the Shadi Bay, like certain ones that got brought up from that interview, which I'm like so glad people like, but it's always so funny what people like pick out. Like, oh my God, she keeps calling Trish brah.

I didn't even notice. I was just like, oh, it's just her little accent, her little style. So I always think it's so fun whenever I see clips of us on TikTok. I'm always like, oh, that's cool. It's always so random. It's so random. You know, we talk for so long and then I get a little delirious. We're always hungry at some point and I'm always just like, I don't even know what we talked about. God, there's literally so much this week. I don't even know where to go. Oh, I ate up. I guess I called me fat. Oh, you did it again. What? No, did you see what I said to do? I was daily on Banks Club. Ah!

I'm dead. Why are their names so similar? Iggy Azalea. Azalea Banks called you. Azalea Banks called me fat. Fat Iggy Azalea. Oh, God. Okay, yes. Iggy Azalea. Baby brain. Now you can blame everything on baby brain. Baby brain and pregnant.

not bad i'm pregnant i can use that for like the next six months i'm pregnant um that was so wild okay well did you just dm somebody this azalea banks news which it's oh that's what it goes back to like the random like twitter accounts like i'm i'm worried that azalea banks news like watches the podcast and then like recorded and sent it they wanted the tea they they instigated they're like hey trisha trisha called you iggy

Which was just a slip of words. But I will say... That was. I mean, it's so confusing. That's so confusing. But yeah, as far as getting read by Azealia Banks... Wasn't bad. No, that's actually pretty... She said, fat, you mean? That's pretty solid, I would say. Troy Zalon, he really got it. Oh, he got it. Yeah, he really got it. So I think...

It's kind of like a rite of passage in all things considered. I think you – it's like a seal of approval. And did you see that like apparently two years ago, Azalea Banks like posted on her Instagram story that her cousin – Yeah, or niece or something. Someone's cousin maybe. I don't know. Was a fan. Yeah. So she's like, I got to get to know her more. So at one point, she was a fan. Then I called her Iggy. Azalea, you're more of a queen than Iggy ever will be. Because, yeah, Iggy didn't do your mukbang with you. Right. Iggy wanted to. Right. I was that.

I was devastated too. I don't think, I don't know really what happened or what, but they were like, they said something, whoever reached out was like, you know, she wants to do a mukbang with you. And I was like, oh my God, that's so cool. And then it just like fell apart. And then it was always like, it was a little sad when that happens, but I mean, it happens. Our show too, we got in some cool people and then it's like, I'm going to follow up in the new year with everybody. I have all lists of people. Cause we have some like really big, like a list people wanting to come on. Um,

And then like you talk to their managers and then it becomes like a thing and it's hard to book them. So in the new year, I'm going to follow up with everybody. But not to say we haven't had slayed guests. Honestly, Shadi B was one of my favorites and I will slay all day for them. I,

I like having guests that are new to podcast world or like, you know, that don't have a lot of interviews. I think that's fun too. Yeah. I'm going on Zach's thing next week. I'm going to ask him about the Troye Sivan hookup. Can you get Troye Sivan on our podcast and Ariana? Honestly, Ari is probably bigger than Troye. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So no offense to Troye, but I think Ariana's just been around longer. And like, as far as like hits, like Ariana has a lot of, had a lot of like top hits. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She also duetted with The Weeknd. Oh, yeah, of course. You can't be that.

It was, do these tears. Every time we go on a date night, Moza always plays The Weeknd in the car for me. It's so great. I'm always like, yeah. And we heard the Save the Tears song with her. And I was like, oh, it's so good. I love Ari. She soft launched her boyfriend. Yes. Which I wanted to get that shirt. I was like, oh my God, that shirt's everything. That's wild. It's crazy. It's crazy that it's happening and it's real and it's in front of us. I just love how sly she was about it. She took a picture of the shirt and then he posted him with the shirt. I was like, okay, I love that. That's very like, we don't want people to know, but we want people to know. Yeah.

him as a baby by the way is from Spamalot everybody okay Pop Crave trying to do him dirty like stuns a new photo didn't say stuns just said in a new photo and I was like and then everyone was like oh my god this is Ariana's I was like okay for all you non-theater people like what like it's costume it's shocking though like I saw that photo really did

stopped me in my tracks and made me think about a few things. I was like, what is... What? I figured it must have been some kind of theatricality kind of thing. I figured it was for one of them little shows, but... No, a big Broadway show. One of them little shows. But my God, that photo was shocking. It was, oh my God. To me, even if I didn't know the show, I'd be like, clearly this is a costume. This is not how he dresses. He's not a little. It would be different. Seeing Jacob Elordi dress as a little baby for a show...

Okay, that's cute. But for something about Ethan Slater dressing up as a little baby for spam a lot, I don't know. I'm done with the Ethan Slater ugly shaming too, or look shaming, because it's like, there's, again, so many things to come for him for, but it's like him being unattractive doesn't mean one of them. And honestly, okay, as a theater person, I think he's very attractive. He is,

theater royalty. Like, when there's a straight guy in, like, musical theater, people love him. Like, right before him, there was a guy named Christian Borle, who was married to Sutton Foster, had an affair with Laura Balbundy. He was, like, the it guy. What is with theater people and affairs? Oh, yeah. They're wild in the theater, because I think there's, like, a bunch of horny theater kids. And this guy, like, again, looking at him, you wouldn't think, like, oh, my God, he's so hot. But he is one of the hottest people in the world to me, because it's, like, his talent, his swag. Christian Borle. Oh, Christian. But Ethan Slater, which is weird, because Ethan Slater is playing Christian Borle's role in Spamalot, and they're not that

they're not that far apart in age, maybe like 20 years or something like that. But look up Christian Borle. He's so cute. I met him one time. Actually, I'll give you a picture of me and Christian Borle. It's one of my favorite pictures ever. And Christian Borle knows he's hot too because, you know, I meet a lot of like celebrities and they're really nice. But Christian Borle was just very much like, I'm Christian Borle. Like he's just like, and I feel like Ethan Slater has that same swag where he's just like, I'm Ethan Slater. And I think Ethan Slater is very handsome. I do think it's wild. He looks like Frankie Gandhi. Like that picture. Did you see that one? I mean, that's crazy. That does look like they almost morphed.

But again, I don't think it's a bad thing. It's almost like dating someone that reminds you of their mother or something like that. You just date people who feel familiar. I don't know. People are so hard on him. First of all, he's not ugly. He's not an ugly person. And

I don't know. Even if he was, like, whatever. I don't know. I mean, he obviously has something that Ariana's, like, you know, pulled by him. But he's also, like, such a good singer. He's just so talented. I'm on Ethan Slater's stand. Yeah. And honestly, people were like, well, you know, his wife may be, like, you know, maybe that's, like, she won at the end of the day. She saw the baby photo and she goes, you know what? Actually, she's, like, captain. I'm good. Yeah. And maybe that's it. Maybe she needed a, I don't know, trying to find some, like, silver lining here. But, um...

The soft launch was real. Ariana's beautiful, though. She's gorgeous. God, she's so pretty. She's looking so good. I wish I could be her. But love the soft launch. And I love that they're just there. What do you think they're going to officially post? Maybe when the Wicked trailer comes out. Because at that point, it's like, can you really escape it? Yeah. Do you think they'll get married?

I think Ari, well, she has been married, but I feel like she'd want to be married again. You know what I mean? Yeah. She seems like the romantic type for sure and like wants to really settle down. But I know it's hard. Some Ari Naders just aren't here for, what's their ship name? Like Ithiana? Wait, what did you say it was? Ithiana? Is that what it is? Ithiana. That's cute. I like that. I like that.

Oh, yeah. The names are weird. I don't know. It's a hard one. I stand in solidarity with Arianators. I stand a queen who has had some frogs before the prince, too. Yeah. Yeah.

what can I say? What can I say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What can you say at this point? Love is love, I guess. Love is love. And it is crazy. I mean, it is wild. It's also sad too. I mean, that's all like, you know, just at the end of the day, love is wild. Life is wild. I don't know how people can just switch so quickly. And again, we don't know their relationship. Maybe he was out of love. Maybe the wife, I don't know. Maybe they love each other. I don't know. Who knows? I have to think of it that way. I'm like, maybe there was

They wanted to be out. I always think if someone like is in that situation, they were kind of like one foot out anyways. You know what I mean? Because I just don't see myself like now. Like there's just no way I could like go any direction. Like I couldn't be pulled by anyone. Not even the weekends. Sorry. Which by the way, he has the most, random, he has the most streamed song ever on Spotify. What song? Blinding Lights. Oh really? 3.8 billion. Did you say million? Billion. Oh yeah.

Is that enough? I don't know. Yeah. Things like that. I don't know. He's number one. And number two was Ed Sheeran with Body. Put your body on me. What is the song? I'm in love with your body. Shape of You. Oh, yeah. Shape of You is what it's called. Like the movie. With like the sea monster. Oh, that's Shape of Water. Yeah.

I'm in love with the shape of you. That's the second one, which is like, it's a slay, but also like. Random. But Taylor wasn't up there. I was shocked. Because we were saying, we had this debate in the car. Not debate, but talking when we go on a date. This is what we talked about because The Weeknd was playing. And I was like, I'm shocked that he had the most song because we were talking about how he doesn't really like have a fandom. I think this casual straight man loves The Weeknd.

Really? Yeah. And they're not the ones necessarily like on Twitter, like saying like, okay, slay Abel, blah, blah, blah. You know, like they're just streaming and then going fishing, you know? You think that's

That's so funny because I listen to his songs and I wouldn't think – to me, I don't know. Again, I'm a new Weekend fan but I wouldn't think straight men listen to it because it's so about like the girls and being sensual and I want to F you up. You know, like all that stuff like that, you know? A lot of straight men I know love the Weekend. Really? Okay. I didn't know. Especially at the – everyone at the – all the straight guys at the gym are listening to the Weekend. Really? Yeah. I guess I don't know enough straight guys. Like I don't know. I know. Not by choice but the ones I know. That was wild to me. I was like – because again, I never even heard of the Weekend before this year and I was just like how?

like how have I never heard of this person that has the biggest songs in the world like of course I've heard of Ed Sheeran and stuff like that so it was always weird maybe because he's so private I don't know when you don't make a big spectacle out of everything you know I feel like it's just you don't have like that insane stand-up but you're still like really talented so you get like the casual like everyday person who just isn't living or who isn't chronically online right right they just like love your music on the radio or something interesting I thought it was weird and I thought Taylor Swift was weird that she wasn't on there because she's so massive right now and I'm

such a Swiftie now. I don't know if I'm on Swift Talk because of you or something, but I just see Taylor Swift everywhere. And I'm like, I don't know how I got into it now. I'm like, okay, we love Taylor Swift now. Travis Kelsey, all of that, you know. Did she cancel her shows indefinitely? They're done? No, she just postponed one from over the weekend because of the heat. Just one? Yeah, and she moved it to today, Monday.

So she's still going. How long is her tour going for? Oh my God. It's through next year. She keeps adding dates. It's like never ending. That's the weekend too. He's been on tour for two years. Although he did cancel his Australian tour and everyone's like suspecting why they think he's having a baby or something like that. Oh, because of his girlfriend. Oh, he has a girlfriend? Yeah. I forgot her name. She's like a model or something. Of course she is. Oh my God. He dated like Bella Hadid and Selena Gomez. I'm like, can we not? That makes me like him less. Not to say he should date an ugly person. Like I love Ariana Grande.

I'm sorry, Anna, for dating Ethan Slater. It's like, oh, that could be me. Yeah, as opposed to like, who's the model? I forget her name. I think it's- Oh, no. Is she pretty? Yeah, she is. It still breaks my heart. I'm married with another baby on the way, but sometimes I break my heart. Oh, Simi. Simi Khadra. This is her. This is a paparazzi photo, so it's kind of hard to see. She looks very young. How old is she? No, I always get nervous when the guys I like, they date. She's 33. She's 30, so that's pretty good. Oh, thank God. Okay. Yeah.

I support. Oh, they've been together since early 2022. Oh, well, that's not that long ago. I mean, love. That's a long, that's a year and a half. That's long. I was with like Bella Hadid for like five or six years or something like that. I don't know. Okay. We love. He's so private. And like, I haven't really heard. I just heard about him and her like recently. Yeah. I didn't know. So yikes. Don't like it. Just kidding. And maybe she watches. Get him on the podcast. We love you Simi. We love Simi. Yeah. He gets all the models. Why?

Well, I guess if you have the number one song on Spotify. You have a lot of pool. I want to go to his house where he shot the Idol. Anyways, I know we always talk about the Idol and we don't need to talk about it, but I just am like so fascinated by him in so many ways. Oh, I need to get your, I'm so excited to get your opinion on this. Okay. Continuing. I can't breathe. The baby's kicking. I thought, we had dinner with friends and I was like, I'm like, oh, it's so cool. Like, oh, is it the baby? It's like, yes, the baby.

Okay. Okay. So in sexiest man discourse, the sexiest bald man alive has been decided by like all these scientific studies. Oh. Do you know who it is? Sexiest bald man. Do you have any guesses? Wait, hold on. Oh, gosh. Oh, is it The Rock? No. Really? I'm surprised everyone like loves The Rock. You're going to be more gagged by who it is. No. It is Prince William. Is he bald? No.

Is he considered bald? I think he's balding. Is he actually bald? I'm pretty sure he's like bald. I get it. Yeah, he's super hot. Oh, you'd like it? Oh, I love Prince William. Oh. I did a trivia show last week and literally one of the questions was like, what is the sport of kings? And it was like polo, chess, or croquet. Do you know? Polo?

Polo? And why do you think that? Because I just remember him and Harry would always go to the little polo tournament. And then what I said, and then literally the picture was him on a horse like playing polo. And I was like, I just love Prince William. Anyways, I love everything about him. I think he's so cute. I think he's the better of the brother. Okay, I'm a little bit slanderous of Harry and Meghan. I do not like them or care for them. They're just bothering me on so many levels. But I love...

Prince William. Yeah, I love him. He's a slay. When he was younger, I thought he was hot. But now I'm like, out of all the bald men, Prince William is the sexiest bald man we got. Please no royalty die in May. I swear to goodness, if the king dies or something and they say it's my baby, just I have the fear of the royal family at all times. We are giving birth to the king. Oh my God. I know. So that's why I'm saying King Philip or who's the other one? King Charles. He's old. Please stay alive. Whoever it is. Oh my God. Please don't have anything like that.

Prince William's hot. Will he come on the podcast? I would love that. I bet Prince Harry would come on the podcast. They're everywhere. They're just trying the most. They couldn't even finish their podcast on Spotify. I just don't consider him bald. You know what I mean? Bald is like, who's bald bald? Like Vin Diesel. Vin Diesel, The Rock. So Prince William pushed Vin Diesel down to number two. He took the number one spot. Vin Diesel number, oh.

Come on. Come on. I'll give you the full list. Okay. So number one is Prince William. Number two is Vin Diesel. Three, Jason Statham. Number four, Samuel L. Jackson. Oh, okay. Yes, definitely him. Number five is Jeff Bezos. He's in that magazine where I have the picture of Jeff Bezos in Vogue. Is he in Vogue? Yeah. He probably owns the magazine. Yeah, right. He's got himself on the list. Jeff Bezos is kind of daddy, actually. Yeah.

Is he in there? Yeah, there's Jeff Bezos. Oh, wow. They actually said that that is probably what pushed him to number five. Yeah, this was a hot photo. People said it looked like AI or something like that. It looks super hot. Who's the woman that he's engaged to? I don't know. Oh, she used to be a reporter.

And I think he cheated on his wife with her. That was like the most expensive divorce in the world. How much? $60, $70 billion. Oh my God. Yeah. He was the richest man in the world until that divorce. Do you think they could buy The Weeknd to perform at their wedding? Yes. 100%. You think? Yeah. They probably own The Weeknd. Because it's like...

3 billion streams. I wonder how much he would charge for the... Probably a couple million. But like Dubai got Beyonce to perform. For how much? I forgot how much. What do you mean Dubai? The country of Dubai? Like a hotel in Dubai. I wonder how much. I know. I think... I don't know why I think it was like 5 million. Yeah. That's it? That's what I was going to think too. Yeah. Didn't they say... Didn't they say My Chemical Romance was 5 million for our wedding? Someone told us.

That's crazy. Well, some people never do it, so they put price really up high. And we just pay $5 million for like a more romance. Oh, man. I would have married Jeff Bezos. Dang. When did he become single? That's crazy. $70 million. Honestly, that's what I'm saying. If you're happy, not even for $70 million would I cheat. If he offered me $70 million to have one night stand with him, I would say no. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know. I think you have to be like out the door. It was billion. Huh? Billion. 70 billion. Yeah. I guess maybe for 70 billion. For one night. For one night. No, this is for now. Really? Of course not. For 70 billion dollars?

Yeah, because it's not. That's wild, babe. Hey, once you set a prize. Okay, but it's one night. There's a movie like this. It's called Indie Scene Proposal. It's with Demi Moore and Woody Harrelson. Robert Redford offers a million dollars for one night with her. It's like in the 80s. And she does it. I don't think they even have sex, but it like ruins their whole marriage and they can't get over it or something. You know the joke? Like he tells you you're going to get 70 billion, then it happens, and then he gives you 10 bucks. And you're like, what's that? No, we get it before. The guy, Robert Redford gave him the million up front. No, they give you 70 billion in our account. No. No.

No, because what's the point? I mean, 70 billion is a lot. I get like a million. Okay, now. But then a family is much greater than that. But we wouldn't lose each other. You're like, you're supporting in this. You're like, I...

Oh, no, I'm not supporting it. For $7 million, I'd be like, oh, you can do whatever. Like if someone wants to pay you for one night. I wouldn't go. Because I think you think that, but then you will feel differently after the fact. No, if someone gave you $70 billion for one night with Ariana Grande, I'd be like, okay, do that. We'll be fine. We're going to be more than fine. We're going to travel the world. That's crazy. What about you? $70 billion? Yeah. I think if I have a number, it's $70 billion. I think Moses is full of crap. I think it's never going to happen, but

You're not real. I am real. I don't believe it. Because it could be one billion. It could be 70. It could be one million. If I was single, I would do it for like a toaster. I would do it for a rug. Oh, me too. For sure. Nothing. We'll give you a rug. That.

I'm yours. Yeah. Oh, good callback. I was like, okay, right. That's why I was good for this woman. She also looks age appropriate, which I like. She also looks like she's about his age. I always think he could go for someone like super young and stuff like that. So we love this. Yeah, he's in this. Nicki Minaj is on the cover of Vogue. Oh, we finally have it. Looking like a queen. I was looking for the GQ one with Kim Kardashian, but I don't think that's out yet. Oh, the man of the year. The man of the year. Oh, that's another thing everyone was tagging me in because everyone thought she copied you with that cover. Wait, what was it? When she had like the suit on and like her hair back. Wait, what was it copying me?

Stop being me. Because it was very much like sad boy vibes. Oh, interesting. And she was eating like a bag of Cheetos. I'm like, Kim Kardashian does not eat Cheetos. And I would eat Cheetos. Oh, interesting. Thank you. I love that people think that. She is not being me. I saw it a million times. Like, this is so Trish-coded. Everyone was tagging me in that cover. I mean, being me at the end of the year as a young woman is very Trish-coded for sure. And I was kind of like, okay, Kim has never been mask presenting. I definitely mask present in my band. And I love that. But yeah, it's kind of weird. I know...

That is kind of weird, right? Like she's man of the year. Like she doesn't, she's not even non-binary. So it's like she does, I consider myself both. I could go by she, her, they, them, he, him, you know? But like he doesn't, no, she doesn't. Here I am calling her she. She doesn't even go by he, him. So what's the point? I know. It was giving stunt for sure. It's giving stunt and I don't like it. I'm so over the Kardashians. Keep watching them. I can't wait for the show to be over because I keep watching their show and every week it's Tristan Redemption Arc.

Can we stop? Like he's not a good dad, period. He's not a good dad. Like why are they pushing that? That's so weird. They finally acknowledged his other son in the baby that was born right before Chloe's in this last episode. Chloe's like, you know, our son is here. Your other son is here. I was like, oh my God, they've never acknowledged that baby before. And that poor baby won't have a dad. It's like so sad because if he's a great dad, he should be involved in that child's life too. And if he bought a house in Palm Springs with Chloe, he can afford it. They drive me nuts and I watch it every week and they drive me nuts.

And then you just hear about Kim Kardashian complaining, oh my God, I'm so busy. I'm like, you don't have to take on American Horror Story. You don't have to take on all these things. Like you literally don't. You literally could just run Skims and be with your kids every day. But the people complain that they're busy all the time. It's like, no, but you choose to be busy. Like it's, I don't know. It drives me nuts. It drives me nuts on no end. It's just like so weird. Like Skims is like billions of dollars. She could just do that and be, it's it. But she's like, I have to do American Horror Story and I have to do that. I was like, no, you don't.

I don't know, but we love Queen Nicki. Nicki Minaj, Pink Friday Volume 2, out now. She's gorge. I would love to have her on the podcast and do a play date with her. That's the goal for 2024. Or even just December when the album's out. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wait, it's not out yet. I thought I heard a song. Oh, no, no, no. She pushed it back. Okay, just kidding. Pink Friday Volume 2 is not out, so thank you for that correction. Who's this person? This person looks familiar. Oh, Anya Taylor-Joy. Who's that? She's an actress. Oh, an actress.

Really? What's she on? She looks so familiar. She was on The Queen's Gambit, that chess show on Netflix. Is she British? She's the voice of, yeah, I think so. Oh, no, actually she's like Argentinian or something. Who's that? She speaks Spanish. Oh.

That's just a motto. I feel like we should just do a page where you're just like, who's this person? Because you literally know everybody. Mariah Carey was in LA last night. I wanted to be there. I didn't know she was performing. The Hollywood Bowl. Yeah. I'm in Mariah Carey era right now. Someone told me I look like her and I can't see it. Yeah. I think so. I mean, she's obviously a lot thinner than me, but I mean, I love Mariah Carey. I'm like on, I'm on a, I'm a stan. You have similar energies. Wow. That's amazing because I have no talent and not half the money as her. So she was at the Hollywood Bowl.

Did you know she was going to be there? No, I didn't know. She had a Vegas residency for Christmas. Does she always do one? I don't know. I saw her once for. I did see her once. I saw her with Jeffree Star. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was kind of in the back, but I was there. Anyways, I don't know if we can say that name, but I don't know. I'm scared. Don't come for me.

I just have a picture of Shane and Shane was in a picture with Jeffrey recently and he looks like he is on the Ozempic or just skinny. Maybe he just lost weight. Allegedly. In my opinion. But you know there's that face. And it's not a bad face. I wish I had an Ozempic face. But there's like lines. It's very Ozempic-y. Did you see Sharon Osbourne? She's like saying she's under 100 pounds because of Ozempic. Now she's warning everyone.

Well, she's also a lot older too. I think she was already like tiny before she started Ozempics. Don't just go on and lose like 10 pounds. Like what? You're crazy. I know. I know. People do that. They're like the Kardashians do it allegedly if they're on Ozempic. But it's like all these people do it. The housewives. I'm like you're already so skinny. Like don't do it. I can't do Ozempic because I'm pregnant. But I like to dream about it. You know what I mean? Also Snapchat. Okay. Like highlighting people being pregnant. Can you –

Can you... Okay, I tried to start a new Snapchat today, like Just Trish or something. Like, it won't even let me start a new account because it just, like, knows. They're like, no, you're banned. Oh, my God. So Snapchat, please unban me. And also, like, I'm pregnant now. Don't be click... I see people clickbaiting their pregnancy, like, fake pregnancies. They, like, really favor pregnant people on Snapchat right now. So...

Both of our guests that are coming up in the next couple weeks, they're both on Snapchat. They're both getting paid money to be on Snapchat. I'm just like, wow. And they're ripping clips of the show. I'm putting them on. No. Yes. It's like on one of the news channels. It's like, Trisha reacts to Eugenia. I'm suing. I'm suing. If you don't put me on their Snapchat. Like, what? That's.

That's wild. Yeah, the thumbnail is you. It's like a random screenshot of you and then a Photoshop of Eugenia. Oh, my. Okay. Ew. Can they do that? I don't know. That's what I was wondering. Because they banned me. I tried to start one for the podcast today. I think it was like just Trish Potter or something. I was going to start. And they wouldn't let me. Like, I was creating a whole new account, everything. I tried it on a different phone. And it was just like, no, like, sus. Like, whatever. I was just like. If they don't allow you, they shouldn't let other people use your content. Yeah. Yeah.

No, I will. I will sue for that. That's some BS. Okay. That's like, you can't do that. Especially if you don't like let me on your platform. That's wild. And they're making money off of it because it's a news thing. Everyone's making money off Snapchat. So no. And everyone's clickbaiting their pregnancy. I saw Jojo was clickbaiting that she was pregnant and stuff like that. And it's like, I don't know.

I don't think people realize, and I'm sure JoJo doesn't, being like how insensitive it is to like pretend that you're like pregnant or especially clickbait that for reviews because it's like just people who struggle with like infertility and stuff like that or just in general. It's just like it's just so – I don't know. It's just like buried in bad taste. And so the fact that Snapchat is like promoting these people like – there's another guy. I don't know who it is on Snapchat that always like posts pictures of like pregnant bellies and stuff because it's – I don't know how Snapchat works anymore. I just know if they like post like a photo, they keep it to the end so people have to like click through or something. I don't know. I don't get it.

I'm not bitter, but honestly, don't use my shit on Snapchat because that's messed up. First of all, it takes a lot. We produce it. We pay people to produce it. It's a whole thing. I don't like that. Especially if you can't even get on there yourself. That's what I'm saying. TikTok, there's clips all the time. Okay, fine. Whatever. Promotion. I'm on TikTok. I can see it, but Snapchat won't even let me on. That's crazy. And I'll tell you why. It's like one time I posted a link tree that had my OF link over it, and I had no idea, but they banned me from one thing, and I was like, I would never obviously do that again. But, oh.

Anyways, are we done with the baldies? Are we done with the baldies? I mean, hmm. I'm trying to think of a bald guy I find attractive. I was trying to think that too. The only one I can think of is Harry Styles because he's bald now, but. Do we know why? He just buzzed his hair. Are you sure? We may not know the truth. You know, Zac Efron came out later on about the truth about his face. That's true.

I just want a bald person I like. Who's a bald guy I like? I don't know. Did you like John from Lost? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's why I was a bald cap of him. I do love John from Lost. He's so cute. I would love anyone from Lost on this show. There's some random people lately I want on the show. Adam Lambert I want on. I've seen him. Do you know him? Adam Lambert? Yeah. Do you know him? Oh.

Like to get on the show? No. Okay. Well, you said yes so casually. Like, yeah, of course. I know him. I love him. Oh, my God. I love Adam Lambert. I would love to get Jonathan Taylor Thomas on. I would love to get J.C. Stodd's A on. You know, the usual suspects. Bebe Rexha. I spice. Nicki Minaj. Those are my manifestations. Britney, I'd still love on. She's out in public now. But Adam Lambert's great. I'm obsessed with him right now because he's like queen and everything. Yeah. I know him. I'm surprised you don't. Know him personally? Yeah. Don't all gay people know each other?

Remember there was a thing. I used to be like that when I was 20s. I would literally like meet a gay person. I'm like, you should meet my friend who's also gay. Like I would just like, just because it was wild. I just think people are like that. It's a very old person to be. I think because it was like, you know, gay people were more rare back in the day. Right, right. So I was like, you should meet my friend. He's also gay. I'm like, no, thank you.

The gays came for you on YouTube. Did you see that? No, for what? No. Oh, my bitch didn't even tell you. I don't want to trigger you. Oh, God. But I'm glad you didn't see it. The drama channels, the gays, the gay drama channels. Oh, them I have no qualms with. Oh, okay, okay, okay. They were coming for you. I was like, oh, no. And you were the thumbnail. And I was like, oh, my God. I don't really have any qualms with that. Like, at the end of the day, I am an Emmy. So all is good over here. You have an Emmy. And I have a turkey. So...

So all is well. And I know it's hard work to like have a channel like that and to produce that kind of content. But for every influencer, like if you can't take criticism and see what stuff that you can do better or that you can improve on, then that's like a you kind of thing.

kind of problem. No, it's definitely like, it's also like they can be very personal and I love like, okay, I love Nick and Dustin. Like I do, I've known them. Like I really do like them. I think they're good, but they flip flop by me all the time. More so Dustin flip flops to me all the time. He hates me and then likes me. And I always feel like with you, it's like, it's almost like an extension to like talk about me, but like I'm not being problematic anymore. So they're like, let's go for Oscar. And I always find it, and I'm not

saying like all gays need to love each other but I always find it interesting it's like women on women hate it's also like the gay on gay hate like they you know I know when I talk about this all the time because I think it's like the most bizarre thing when they had the real gay friends of West Hollywood do you remember that show and it was Todrick so everyone just like hated on it they were just like oh it was after RuPaul on like I don't know Paramount or something and people were just so pissed about it and

it was so wild and it was gay people. The gay people were so pissed about it. But I'm like, oh God, you should be like so excited. Like it's like this mainstream show, but because it's like Todrick or I don't know, sometimes it's kind of like gay on gay hate is real, you know? Yeah. And I'm definitely guilty of it too. Cause with that show, I think that show, there was a lot of like things about it. It was awful. It was terrible. It got canceled so quick. It was not good, but I guess it's fair then. Yeah. I'm like, I'm definitely guilty of it too. I wasn't even talking about it. So that's funny. It's like, well, that's another thing too. Like if you thought. Who are you talking about? Let's see. What show? What's his name?

That's the one I was talking about. Oh, tea. Yeah, exactly. Which I'm letting it out. But yeah. If you thought me calling out misogyny was about you, then you kind of outed yourself. Isn't that crazy? It is crazy, that guilt that you're like, oh, they're talking about me and stuff like that. Like, I would never have seen that. Like, when you said Charlie did, and then, like, I watched it, and I was like, I'm looking at things that we should have talked about me. You're like, they have babies now, so hopefully they change. I was like, oh, like, you know. Yeah, no, it's, you know, it's...

it's fine. We love, we love a little promo and a little back and forth. Shake the table a little bit. It is crazy how like the things they pick. Cause I think there's some hot takes we have. And then I'm like, Oh, that's like kind of like not that hot of a take, but okay. I don't know. Misogyny is bad. I mean, that was a hot take. I supported you on it. I was like, okay, I get it. Yeah. I don't know. But anyways, I thought it was interesting that you were in it. I'm glad you didn't see any of it. It wasn't even bad. I just was like, Oh man, like I know, I know when I see myself in thumbnails, I'm like, Oh,

So I like, and because you're not, you jerk your first time being in drama channels. I'm like, oh no. No, I kind of figured you can't really say anything about anyone with a channel and expect like not them to not react. Of course. Yeah. They like wait for it. I used to be like that too. I'm like, they mentioned me. It's go time, you know? And it can be. I get it. It's amusing. I get it too. A lot of them I do watch. Like I still watch Adam. I can think Adam's really great. And I watch like Spill Sesh. He came for you. Oh, did he? I didn't see that one. Yeah, he had one. Yeah.

for you about it. I didn't watch it. I just saw the podcast. I was like, oh no. Well, I still really like it. That's why I'm like, I don't know. You can be objective. You can be, yeah. I feel like even if people don't like me, sometimes I'm like, oh, I still really like them and it's fine if they don't like me. Yeah, it's all good. Things are moving along over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it.

I love it. That's a really good attitude to have. I try to be that way too. I'm like, you know, especially doing it for so long, I'm like, not everyone's going to like me. And it's like trying to get people to like you. And of course I'm going to say like bad takes. I'm going to say some dumb stuff sometimes. Yeah, I think I would too. Not that yours was a bad take at all. I really don't think that. But I'm just, it's...

but it is funny. And also how people can twist things in general. Like, you know, it's like, well, they're not, there's always an argument for something. Their argument was like, well, they're not as close to Colleen, but like who judges who's close? I don't know. Cause everyone knows everything about. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But there are guys who are very close to Colleen. I didn't say anything either. You know, it's not just Rhett and Link. You were saying those people, but there's like people who are like that are,

really close friends with her that people didn't hold accountable the way they did with Rosanna. Yeah. Which is, you know, there definitely is. We saw with Rosanna there was a lot of misogyny just in general when it came to her talking about Mr. Beast versus like Quackity talking about Mr. Beast. And yeah, I don't think we have Mr. Beast news this week. Oh, yeah. He buried him live or something. Oh, yeah. I don't know. This guy. I was like, okay. This guy is just, what is happening? I don't know if I

I don't know if I can talk about it. I guess I can. The trivia show. I don't have to give it all away. Can I talk about the questions? I guess it's fine. Okay. So I was doing this trivia show last week and it wasn't for air. It was like, it wasn't for air. It's not coming out or anything like that. But there's like different people there from different walks of life and I was like the influencer. And so I, there's like different categories and one of the categories was influencers. So they were trying to keep me to help them with influencer. Can I talk about this?

I feel like I'm giving too much away. Anyway, so they're like, oh, she's an influencer. You can help me with the influencer question. I'm like, oh my God, yes, I got this for sure because you don't have all the categories I didn't know. So I was like, yes, I'm going to ask if you know. So Mr. Beast was the thing. It was just like, Mr. Beast is the number one subscriber with 211, or number one most subscribed YouTube channel with 211 million subscribers. Who's the second? There's multiple choice. Do you need the multiple choice or do you know? Yeah, I need the multiple choice. You wouldn't even have us guess. No. A, Dude Perfect, B, Cocoa Melon, or C, PewDiePie?

That's hard. I don't think it's PewDiePie. Okay. Is it Cocoa Mellon?

Mine was not even a flinch. I was like, PewDiePie's always been number one. Like, obviously, Mr. Beast Pax. To me, it wasn't even a question. I was like, definitely not doing perfect. Like, what has that even? That's like saying Trisha Paytas up there. I was like, no one's going to think that. But I, and we watched Cocomelon. And also, I was just like, Cocomelon is more than PewDiePie? Because I just knew that there's a lot of kids channels in, like, the top. So by process of elimination. Yeah.

I made myself look real dumb. Everyone's like, here's the influencer coming to save us. And I was like, got it. You guys wrote it so fast. I was so confident.

I was like, oh, yikes. I was watching it the days where Coco Mellon was passing PewDiePie. So PewDiePie would talk about it a lot. And he had a beef. Yeah, did you know that? There was a whole. He had a whole beef with Coco Mellon and make these songs and all kind of stuff like that. So I used to watch at that time. So that's why I knew. I didn't remember that at all. Like, I was like, how did you know that? Like, never knew. But just always assume any kid's content is going to be number one. Yeah, me too. That's wild. I was like, dang, okay, Coco Mellon, but.

but I was I caught I never felt dumber I was like man this was like my category to shine and I knew all the other questions and then that one I just

flopped hard. But there was one that you did. The Weeknd was on there. Even better. It was a Spotify who had the most streaming. And it was just random that I saw them. But you corrected them. They didn't even have. I did correct them. They had Ed Sheeran. It was like Ed Sheeran, Pink, Travis Scott. And I'm just going to go with like Ed Sheeran. But like it is The Weeknd because I literally saw on X literally the day before for some weird reason the like top three. It's The Weeknd, Ed Sheeran. I don't know who the third was. But I remember seeing that and I was like, sorry,

So I corrected them and now they had to switch it. But I did. I was like, I felt so smart in that moment. And that's when everyone was like, this is the girl to beat. And so when I got my own category wrong, I was like, oh my God, I was like doing so well. But the weekend was the answer and I was very excited. It wasn't even up there. I had to correct them. I would love Azalea Banks on the podcast if you want to come on. I would love to be on Snapchat. Oh, speaking of Dream Guest, we need to get Gypsy Rose on. Do you know how to contact her? No, don't. Oh, come on. I don't have Gypsy Rose.

Yeah, she's trying to do a first interview out of prison. Well, yeah, of course, but... I think she could do it here. I would be so good to interview her. You really would. I know everything about Gypsy Rose's case. I... Everything. I support... Did I say that? I don't know. Okay. Because, look, here's the thing. Her story is wild. You know the details? Not all. I know it fairly well, but not in and out. It's wild. When I was reading more stuff, it's like... I read the P. Diddy case. I read all freaking 37 pages. When I read all this stuff, I'm like...

so wild. Like you have a child and you're like making them like sick on purpose. You're like, you're, you're like promoting it as like my child. Getting ahead by making your child sick is like crazy. To think she couldn't like walk. Like, could you imagine making your child think they can't walk? Like you're just so stunted.

like she's like a grown adult thinking she's like this child who like can't, she's walk, she can't walk. She's sick. It's all stuff. It's like, that's such a, I don't know. That's like a form of child abuse. I have to think like, you know what I mean? And like a really crazy sick form of it because the mom's benefiting off of that on top of it. It's not even like, I guess it's a sickness. You know, there's sickness for people who like beat their children, of course. But then this is like a whole other level where she's like going public with it and doing like, I don't know. It's,

I don't know. I, what do you do when you're a child that's being abused? What do you do? And when the system fails you and stuff like that, when you try to like ask for help and seek ways out of it and they don't, like, how do you get out of that as a child? I know. Do you know what I mean? Like, I just think the children, if children usually can't fight back and she was obviously an adult when she was older, but it's like when this happened, but it can only take so much. I don't know. It's, it makes me so upset. And I'm just like, I,

all about the Gypsy Rose interview I think Dr. Phil did it very poorly and I think that I could do it a lot better because he did one when she was like in prison and stuff like that but I feel like she's also like this hopeless romantic she's like getting married in prison and stuff like that and I don't know I just think she has like her head on I know and she's a Swifty I know that oh yeah no she wanted to meet Taylor Swift that's her dream maybe meet Taylor Swift oh that's her she's trying to meet Taylor Swift out of prison before me I don't know

I think Taylor's busy for her. I think I might have a better shot. We're a good start, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's wild. I love that she's a Swifty. How old is she now? I wonder. I have no idea. She must be like 30 or something. And I watch the movie. I know so much about that case. I'm not like a true crime person, but in this way, I'm kind of like...

yeah at some point you're just so you're almost like held captive and it's like what can you do i don't know i don't know and like people fail you and you know our our police whatever it is like just in general please don't protect you like i'm not anti-police but they just don't do a lot especially with like kids it's all very i mean we hear about it literally all the time yeah they just don't do anything unless something is like unless you like attempt to like

unalive your child and they're like maybe they'll step in maybe or maybe they won't they'll be like it's fine whatever they look the other way I don't know I think there's just so much more also Trisha or maybe she'll write a book I always just think there's like so much more to the story that we see you know what I mean it's very like obviously it was probably a lot more yeah and also there's probably a lot of trauma that she blocks out blocks out you know stuff that happened that she can't even like recollect or recall but everyone was tweeting that I should have her on and I

It was like, okay. I would love that. Get her on. Like, I would love. We're not really good yet at getting these exclusive guests, but, you know, we had an exclusive Shoddy Bay interview, so I feel like maybe we'll get another exclusive. We got our Friends with Benefits exclusive in the BBL, so we're trying here. We're trying for these exclusives. If you guys know, let us know. We'll be there. We'll give you a $500 referral fee if you get us Gypsy Rose. Yes. Yes, we will give you a $500 referral fee. Did you see the Pokimane GYP?

drama oh cookies the cookies what'd you say oh cookies cookies it's a pookie i was like what not this because this is another like uh i don't like to tear women down you know what i mean oh i'm like i don't know i'm not gonna tear it down but in general i think like okay okay do you know what i mean like i feel like okay definitely misogyny in this case for sure for sure for sure i mean yeah the only thing is okay

to be like fair on all accounts but like in general if like a woman you know if a girl has like a bad take I try to look the other way I'm just like you know what I mean and not about the cookie prices I think the cookie prices are totally fine but you know the one where she's calling everyone broke she's like if you can't afford them you're broke I mean kind of absurd but also like me with like my $200 tumblr is like can't afford this you're broke so I guess for context so so Pokimane she released her own brand of cookies there's already drama with the cookies which I didn't know about before the broke and

cost situation. This is at their private label. So everyone's like, these aren't her cookies. And it's like, it's like the coffee. Like none of these are anything. They just put their name on it, which is like business, whatever. But, um, Pokemon and her company have said that it's like they, a formula that they've developed themselves for the cookies and they're not just like a rebranded product. So there's already that drama ahead of it. And then, yeah, the price for a four pack is $28 or $7 per pack is what it comes out to. And so she was getting a lot of heat, um,

that pricing. And then on a stream on Twitch, she said... Oh my God, wild. When people are like, oh my God, $28 for cookies, it's four bags. That's $7 per bag. I know math is hard when you're an idiot, but if you're a broke boy, just say so. Which I thought was... I don't know. I guess I'm so biased. Yeah. I laughed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, I don't think we're supposed to use the I word anymore. I think that's offensive. Oh, is that offensive? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In general. So I was like, oh, when people say that, I cringe a little bit. But...

First of all, yeah, the prices are, like, people, when they're, like, complaining about prices, yeah, like, don't buy them then. Like, it's also, like, not that crazy. Like, I don't know what kind of cookies they are. I don't know how big they are. I don't know what they look like. I mean, yeah, you could go get Oreos for, like, five bucks. Actually, I don't know. Inflation these days, like, it's, like, $10 for Oreos probably. So, I don't know. Plus, it's, like, her brand. It's very niche. Like, if you don't like a price, I don't know why people complain about it. It's just, like, don't buy it. And it's supposed to be, like, the healthy snacks. And those healthy snacks run pretty steep. Okay. You know?

Yeah, I don't mind the prices. I don't mind all that. I think that's like – and I do feel like she gets a lot of – I don't know a lot about Pokimane. Actually, I'm like a fan. I don't know a lot about her. I'm a fan because I think she says she likes me. So I'm like, okay, I'm a fan. I just don't watch like gaming. I think she was an ASMR person before gaming. So like I don't know. I think she's very like cute. I know she's really popular. I do know people like just to bring down girls that are like killing it. Yeah. So I guess it's when I saw the stream. I was like, okay. But like you said, it's kind of a serve I guess. You know, like if you really –

I do admire people who just kind of don't care and say that kind of stuff, you know, like y'all are broke. But to me, it was kind of like obvious that she was like being jokey. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. And she released a Twitter statement after like confirming that she was like joking and that it didn't come across that way. It maybe comes

Maybe it comes across defensive when you're like, I know math is hard. You know, when people are like that. But it's also like imagine her like you have so many – first of all, so popular. You have like thousands of people in your chat. Like there's thousands of people saying a lot of things about you like I can imagine. I just know I've learned like being defensive is like the worst thing you can do in these situations. Like lean into the job or ignore it or something because it's like – like I've sold overpriced things and stuff like that. It's just like –

People will pay. People will pay, honestly. People will pay for, you know... Crumble cookie. Like, crumble cookie is like $5 a piece. Those are some big cookies.

Those are huge pies. Here it's like it's personalized and shipped to you. So it's seven bucks a piece. I know not that. Like people would probably pay 50 bucks for her cookies. You know what I mean? There's people who pay a lot of money for shit. She said, well, what I said was 100% intended to be a joke. I see why it came off as insensitive and I apologize for that. Okay, we love that. I also understand the current price of the cookies may be expensive for some and will promise we'll continue to consider pricing to keep Mina, which is her brand, as affordable as possible. That's a good response. Yeah, I love an apology. Like I love...

I love an apology when people can do it. Like even this may be hot take controversial, even if it's not like sincere. Right. I love that someone can like apologize because like acknowledging the fact that they like hurt people or like, you know, people took it some type of way. Cause maybe there was a fan that like really wanted the cookies and they're like too expensive and she just called them broke. And you're just like, oh, you know what I mean? Even if that wasn't your intention, like I like when people can like apologize or acknowledge that they came across in like a bad way or something, you know what I mean? Or apologize to people they've hurt. Cause I feel like that happens a lot.

Yeah, and I think she does – again, from what I've seen, because it's like I'm such a far person with her. I just don't know that much about her. I do see she gets like a ton of hate a lot in general. So I don't know if that's just because she's a girl and a streamer or she could be annoying. I actually don't know because I don't watch. But, you know, I think girls on the internet just get hate way more in general. Especially gaming. Like that is a whole – True. Like Twitch. Twitch I don't get at all. I don't – Yeah, I feel for any like –

female streamer on Twitch because it is just so like dominated by like boys. It seems like a boys club, you know, and like... Definitely. Well, I think Hasan came to her defense. I saw that. But then I think... Who's that guy? I always see him. Oh, I know exactly. Moist Critical. Okay. Penguins. I don't get it. Is his name... Wait, how?

That's what I don't get. I'm so confused. Someone's like, oh, it's Penguins. Oh, it's Moist Critical. Oh, it's Charlie. And I was like, how many names? And why? How many? Like, what's he on YouTube? Is his name? What's his YouTube name? Penguins Zero, I think. Penguins Zero. But why does he get the name Moist Critical? Moist Critical? Moist Critical. I think because you don't follow him like hardcore, so I definitely could be wrong. But I think it's because he has like, he rates everything on like a moist meter. Like...

hate the word moist but like why are you rating these as a moist meter that's so weird um I don't know what the background of why he's moist critical but I've watched him like I see him a little like here and there he also astounds me because imagine if like your drive-thru videos no editing got like five million

5 million views in an hour. Yeah, he's like in this dark room with like a yellow lighting and I'm like, what? Like people will live for him. 5 million views. Not even a day his Pokemon video had like 5 million views. I was like, this is wild. About the cookies? About the cookies, yeah. Because I think I saw the boys were fighting on TikTok. I think Ahsan was reacting to Charlie's video about it.

And he was like mad because he think he got like, I guess, voice critical. I don't know. And then Hassan's like, you're not just the average viewer. You're a creator. You know what goes on behind. I didn't really get his point. I'm kind of dumb. I don't really know. But like, I didn't really get his point either. He was just mad at Charlie. And I was just like, wait, I thought they would be on the same side. I don't know. Like, but Charlie was calling him out. But I don't know why. Do you know any of that context? No. I don't.

saw the video and I was so confused why Hasan was mad and I don't know in general I just like I think twitch people who are on twitch all day like you know Megan Bank love that for you but also like maybe you're just doing like too much like get offline for like a little bit you know because they get so mad about little things they fight about everything and I'm just like I don't even know if this is that big of a deal boys critical talking about the cookies talking about Hasan reacting to the cookies and then Hasan's reacting to that I was like there's too many reacting videos happening there's so much like just breathe just

get off Twitch for a minute. I don't know, just in general. I know nothing about Twitch. Twitch can be a spot that can come for you. Most probably don't put that in because he always tells me like these fan bases will come for you. I'm like, I don't know. With any platform, just like kind of speaker piece and then you kind of just have to like let it go. Just drop it. Drop the mic. Be like, I'm putting it out. That's like, with these, I kind of do, I do the live chats and I kind of just like don't look ever again. I'm like, dude, I said what I said. You know, like that's it.

Apologize later for whatever. I was just like, in general. I think we have good takes. I don't know. I think so too. I mean. I don't see drama channels coming for us too much. With us, I feel like we're always like willing to learn too. I feel like we're not, that's the thing. Like I always say, like if you're kind of like stuck in your ways and then if people are in a respectful way, like calling out and be like, oh, like this is a bad take, then I'm like. Definitely. I'm always willing to shift.

Definitely. When I said stay-at-home moms are harder than working moms, and then so many people are like, I work at a hospital all day, and then I have to come home, and I'm still single. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Yeah, shifting the viewpoints are important. The more people watch, the more perspectives you get, and everyone's perspective is valid. I love it. I do love that. As long as you're willing to learn. But a lot of people aren't. It's kind of like...

hit a wall yeah it's wild to me i know i was like but that moist critical man he gets so many i don't understand it but i respect it the reason i discovered like i remember like looking up like a car chase video and he reacts to car chases and i was like is that his what is it is it things twitch i see him on youtube but like does he post his twitch videos on youtube we probably sound like so i don't know i have

no idea. To me, I feel like he's doing a nine hour stream and then putting like an hour on YouTube or something. I don't know. I've seen him do like little reviews. I think you're right. The car chase one I think was on Twitch and he clipped it for YouTube, but I've seen him do like YouTube reviews specifically for like different movies or stuff like that. I'm sure everyone in the comments is like these old geezers. I literally

really don't know. I just know Adam and Eve like sponsored him once because they were like telling me, oh, like we, because he just talks about it. He doesn't do the reviews like I do. And so that's why they're like, oh, like look how he does. Like they were talking about like maybe just doing a, it was for ASMR, like something where you just give a shout out and not show the toy or something. And like, oh, look at penguins. And I'm like, who is this person? But he was getting so much. I was like, dang, I wonder how much he gets paid if I get some.

But yeah, that's wild. I mean, we love... I don't know. This kind of thing to me is like I'm so far removed from it. Like, I don't know. I don't know much about Pokimane, but I always see like so much misogyny and stuff around her. Like, I remember there was a thing where people were upset that she said that she pays someone to like remove negative comments or like negative stuff in her Twitch or whatever. Like, oh, you make so much money that you can pay someone to do that. But then it's like all these guys...

So many moderators. I see XQC, like, which respect, like, no, hey, but it's like, I'm gambling three million. I just lost ten million dollars gambling, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And everyone's like, yeah, XQC. Yeah. Like, what the hell? I know, I know, no, it is such a double standard and that's so annoying. And it's also like, people are so concerned. Oh, she's making money. It's a woman making money. Oh, my God. We gotta, like, tear it down. Twenty dollars.

is like at the end of the day is like not that much at cookies and also like if she sells her cookies for $100 like that's her margin she can get that like it's so it is bizarre I don't know people are really I don't know I'm a Pokemon fan mostly because she's a girl

We're going to eat your cookies. We'll eat your cookies, Pokey. Pokey Mane, what a name. Yeah, we should get them. Put that on the list, Moses. Actually, I have the list. He just has my phone, so I usually put things on the list. We should get those cookies for sure. I wonder what Mr. Beast sells his Feastable chocolate for, because I'm sure that's absurdly priced for a chocolate bar. That's true, yeah. Anyway, we can circle back to Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast, because I would love to know. I bet he sells his for, I bet they're $17 for one chocolate bar. He sells it at Walmart. At Walmart? $169. Oh, yeah.

Damn. Wow. What a price. Yeah. Cause they're like in the department stores on the shelf, you know, $1 69. That's the cheapest chocolate I've ever seen. Oh, his cookies are four 50. So they're not like that much more than, I mean that much cheaper than for one cookie for one pack of cookies. I was on the cookies for a hundred dollars. Guys, just saying like, you know what I mean? Like if you can,

You can. I don't know. I'm sure I've sold something for really expensive before. I think my Zap Boy hoodies were like $100. Although we did get scammed and we had to pay like $90 per hoodie. But anyways, it's hard. It's hard to be a businesswoman out here. That's true. A Pokemon, I'll totally buy your hoodies. I wonder if they're good. I wonder if they're bad though and we have to like lie.

We're not getting sponsored. We can lie about it. Oh, my gosh. Chris Appleton, Lucas Gage, unhappily ever after, they are divorced after six months. Fun fact, me and Lucas Gage used to text, okay? At the beginning of this year, we texted. He's like, I love you. And I was like, oh, my God, I love you. And, like, I was so excited. And we were, like, texting. He's like, we need to hang out when I'm back in L.A. I'm like, yes. And then literally, like, a week later, he was, like, married to Chris Appleton with Kim Kardashian. I was like, oh, okay. Never heard from him again. So maybe I have a chance. Maybe now I can be cool enough, which I would love to hear the tea because I'm

I don't know. This might get me canceled. Chris Hopkins always give me kind of bad vibes and I'm a glam girl, but like, okay, you know what? He didn't just give me bad vibes. People around to say he's not that great to his like assistants and stuff like that. So I think that's why I think I've just always heard from people. He's just like not that nice to his helpers. You know what I mean? And I just, I don't know. I've always kind of got that vibe anyways from him. I'm just kind of like, Ooh. And when I heard them announce their engagement, I was kind of like, of course, Chris Hopkins gorgeous. Okay. Obviously. And he's super talented, but,

I don't know. It just gave me bad vibes. Did you watch the episode of The Kardashians? I did, yeah. And the first thing Kim says is like get a prenup. And I was like, who is she trying to protect? Was she trying to protect Chris or Lucas? I guess Chris probably has more money than Lucas because Lucas is like young. Do you remember that viral clip of Lucas? In his apartment. Yeah, the director's just like, oh my God, these shitty apartments and this and that. He's like, I still hear you. He took it so, that's why I really like him because he handled that so well. Totally. He's like, it's fine. That's why I need this role. I love Lucas. I love him. I love him in White Lotus.

I love him in You. I hated that season of You he was on, but I loved him. And, oh my God, Euphoria. It was like, we watched only two episodes and he's like in the first two episodes and it was so traumatizing. He's such a good actor. I just think he's so cute. We've seen a lot of other things too. He's like randomly pops up and stuff. He's definitely, in my opinion, like the hottest guy out there right now. Like if I could pick anybody to like, I don't know, as the it boy, he's my it boy. Yeah, he's beautiful. Yeah.

Gorge. And like you said, he has a good personality, it seems. He's funny. Like in White Lotus, his role was so good. Like I just, I don't know. He's so gorgeous. I want him here. I didn't know that Chris Appleton had two kids too. Oh. Yeah. What? So Lucas was a stepfather and he was only, Lucas was-

The kids were 18 and 20. What? And Lucas is 27 or 28. Wait, how old is Chris Appleton? He's 40. Chris Appleton's 40. Wait, and his kids are 20? 20 and 18. So he was married to a woman before. Oh. Yeah, and he had two kids. Literally, I had no idea. So I was researching this stuff and saw that. Oh, my God. And Chris had said that, oh, yeah, Lucas is a great stepfather to...

Kind of weird to say that when they're like adults. That's what I was going to say too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, yeah, Lucas is only 28 and like – so there's only an eight-year age difference between the oldest kid and – That's a weird thing. He gives me weird vibes. That's a weird thing to say in general. Yeah. I was kind of like, oh, okay. Like how are you stepfathering them? That's so weird. I don't like the whole rhetoric though about like – because there's always jokes about like gays who like their relationships move really fast. So that was – when I first saw that they were married, I was like –

I was afraid of things going south and never making fun of how long it would last. So I felt bad about that. It's kind of obvious, gay or straight. I think when that stuff happens so quickly, it's like it's not going to work. And you're going to Vegas with Kim Kardashian for the show. It is wild. Chris Appleton did it so fast. I guess you're in love and it's a whirlwind. And I don't know. To add to the weird, the sass Chris Appleton vibe, his other ex-boyfriends, he has a type where they are blonde, like kind of look like him.

and a lot younger. He's 40, they're 28, he's 28? Yeah. Not like terrible. It's not terrible, but it is weird that they all like look very similar to him and like. That, and also I think when you have kids that are like closer to their age, it's always kind of weird. Like you have 20 year old kids, only because I would think in the perspective of like your kids, you know, they're like, they're like our age, this person's closer to our age in general. Like I think that's kind of weird when people have kids and they date someone closer to the kid's age. I don't know, I just, I don't know.

Chris Eppleton always kind of gave me weird vibes just in general. And I did that as like weird, not gay. Just so people don't come for me. It's like just weird. I don't know.

The problem is when you are that hot and you're probably that hot like your whole life, like you don't get like the character building stuff. You know what I mean? Like I don't trust anyone who is that hot your whole life. That's true. Because that's like – there's a difference between being like attractive and just being like hot, like universally hot. Yeah. And you grow up universally hot. You don't have like any like humbling kind of experience. Yeah. I feel like that was like the girl – right. Like I feel like that was Alex Earl. Like you're just so hot and it's like it's kind of hard to like be relatable.

or like know what the real world's like for people. I don't know. And I know everyone's like, well, I had my awkward year. It's very different to be like awkward as like a 12 year old versus being awkward looking as like a 20 year old. Yeah, no, for sure. Did you see, bring her up again, Bobby Althoff. Did you see her interviewing Jessica Alba? No. And she was saying, Jessica Alba was like, I had my awkward years. And she's like, no, not compared to my awkward years.

Okay, she's being like a normal interviewer now. Like she's like ditched the character. And because she's talking to Jessica Alba kind of normal, she goes, no, like I had awkward years. Like my awkward years are like way worse than yours. It was like such a weird – it's just a clip because the interview is not out yet. It was just a clip. But I'm like this is –

journey is so bizarre to me because it's like this now she's like this normal interviewer and she looks normal and I don't know anyways very weird side note from that but yeah I always feel like too when that happens like they get divorced so quickly and it was like the day after the Kardashian episode airs so I was like that's like a little sus then it came out like Lucas cheated allegedly oh I didn't hear that oh yeah that was like on Us Weekly or something and I'm like how do people know this like how do they know that information I like to say I would say no I would I would think he didn't cheat but I don't know also it's just like my

my also this is like probably not real this is literally just my theory but it's like i think maybe he found him attractive because he's like this big star because lucas was like everywhere everything and the actor strike happens and he's not working anymore and then when you see someone not working and then you might be like you're a bum because chris appletons is with him like every freaking place and where so i sometimes i think like when you see someone not working you're just kind of like not attracted to them anymore i don't know you know that makes i don't

I don't know. Just because it's like a whirlwind and he's obviously couldn't fall in love with him because they don't know each other yet. You know what I mean? So it was like this whirlwind romance and he's like a big actor and then like he's not working and then you're just like, eh. That happened to me. I don't want to tell this. Well, I can tell the story. It was like this guy in this like band, a really popular like singing group. And I was so excited. I found him like on Tinder and I was like, oh my God. And they're like at the Hollywood Bowl and stuff. And then like literally a month later, he's like announced that he's like leaving the group. And I was like, oh, this is, no, I don't want to. Yeah.

what I mean and like right away obviously weren't in love we weren't even like whatever I was just like infatuated with him but then as soon as he announced that he was leaving the group I was like oh my god why would you do that and then all of a sudden I was just like not really that attracted to him anymore I imagine maybe because like if Ethan Slater was on Broadway like if

Oh, for sure. If he retired and he was just like a normal guy and not on stage. For sure. I feel like that would lose some of the charm. Yeah, he was never casted as like, because basically he's casted as the person that's obsessed with Glinda, so he's like this little, literally a munchkin in this show. He's casted as a munchkin. That's what they're called. They're from

from Wizard of Oz. I didn't know. I thought it was like a prince or something. No, literally no. The gay guy that she was with Wimbledon is is the prince. He's like Fiyero. He's the hot one. Bach is literally like a munchkin from Munchkinland that's obsessed with Glinda and she wants nothing to do with him. She's just like, you know, no, thank you. She like keeps brushing him off the whole time. All this stuff

all this stuff like that. I think if it wasn't him in this role, like she wouldn't look at him the same, you know, because Bach is a slay. Bach is one of my favorite characters in Wicked. He's definitely a slay. Spoiler alert? I don't know. Can I say spoiler alert? Because Wicked's been out for 20 years. I don't think it's a spoiler, yeah. He's the tin man. He becomes the tin man because he ends up dating the Wicked Witches of the West sister Nessa because Glinda's like, you should ask Nessa out because Nessa's in a wheelchair and she was like, that would be so nice if you asked her out in a wheelchair because she wanted to go to the dance with the other guy. So Bach's like, okay, I'll ask

I'll ask her out for you, Glinda, or whatever. But then they end up becoming married because he's so sweet or whatever. And then the witch in the wheelchair finds out he was actually in love with Glinda the whole time. So then she wants to turn him into tin, so he has no heart. So she turns him into the tin man. Actually, she shrinks his heart. He's about to die. Then the wicked witch comes in. Not the wicked witch. The Elphaba. She comes in. Who's the wicked witch? She comes in, and she's like, oh, my God, let me save him. He's about to die. He's about to die.

And Nessa's like, what am I doing? Because his heart's shrinking. She wanted his heart to shrink. So basically, she's like, oh, I need to turn him into tin because that's the only way he's going to survive because he can't survive as a human without a heart. So she turns him into the Tin Man. That's why the Tin Man has no heart in The Wizard of Oz. And Bach becomes the Tin Man. And so it's the Munchkin turned Tin Man. So he went from little to tall? No, he's still little, but he's a tin. He's a little Tin Man. So he's not the Tin Man in Wizard of Oz? Yeah. So it's like the origin story of The Wizard of Oz. How did he get tall? Well, that's a different actor. What are you saying? What are you saying?

Tin Man does have tin. So he's, you know. From like munchkin to like. He has tin on him. So I guess the tin is just higher in general. Yeah. And then Fiyero, he's so dumb. But he's good looking in the show. And so he becomes a scarecrow because he has no brains. But in order to save. This all happens in Wicked? It's the origin story. No wonder it's two parts. My God. There's lots of.

I wish it wasn't because did you see the guy from Hunger Games or the, yeah, the director of Hunger Games was like, I kind of regret putting Hunger Games into two parts, the final one. He's like, it should have just been one because it's like a cohesive movie and I was like, yeah, I love that because Rachel Zegler was on Watch What Happens Live and the Hunger Games director or something, I don't know, was there and she's kind of,

She's kind of being annoying again in these press interviews. She's like, I don't know. Maybe it was a joke. Maybe they asked her to say this. I just saw a clip of it. So that's for my context. But literally she says, hi, I'm Rachel Zengler from The Hunger Games. Please don't ask us if Katniss is in this movie. I was like, okay, girl, chill. Like, I get it. Like, you know, whatever. But why is she so aggressive about things? Maybe it was a joke. Maybe they asked her to. I don't know. She's being wild in these interviews. I don't know. I think this is her personality. Like, she's just a theater kid. So I think. Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater are theater kids and they're beautiful and they're so charming. She's like, she's beautiful, not charming. Yeah.

I don't know. 100 Years Mimi, Rachel's... Oh, did you see it? Yes, I did see it. Okay, see, you didn't even start with that. I loved it. I feel like you would have done it like that. You loved it. I did love it. My boyfriend, though, he is a Rachel Zegler fan.

Yeah, I guess Hater. Okay. Because he was like, I loved the whole movie except for Rachel Zegler. And I was like, and I literally was just like, I shut down. I was like, I cannot take any more Rachel Zegler discourse. I just walked. I just walked to the car. Because I was loving the Houghton Games. Like, we're back in Pan Am. Like, where, like, everything is so good. And.

And he's like, I loved everything except for Rachel's Legler. And I'm like, I can't. Oh my God, literally the star of the movie. She's not even like, it's not even her movie really. It's like the guy. Yeah. Which guy? Tom Blythe is his name. It's like the blonde guy in the posters if you've seen the posters. Is it her boyfriend? No, her boyfriend is a supporting actor.

Because you heard, did you hear that she said no to The Hunger Games originally and then they casted her boyfriend and then she's like, actually, I'm available now. Oh, really? She told them, yes, I saw this. I think it was like a woman producer or something like that. I don't know who was talking about it, but she's like, yeah, we actually offered the role to Rachel, but she's like, I'm too busy. I want to be with my family because she was like in Germany shooting something and then she was in like London shooting something. She was like, I want to be with my family. And then she's like, the producer or whatever, the casting person was like, oh, I didn't even know it was her boyfriend, but we casted this guy. And all of a sudden she got a call from Rachel and she's like, actually,

I'm available and then they like gave it to Rachel I didn't even know they were dating because I kept seeing them on red carpets like hugging and stuff and I thought they were just like friendly co-stars and then I think like somewhere along the lines I found out that was her boyfriend I was like oh yeah so random very random they were in West Side Story together oh I didn't know I didn't see that I think so I think they were in that together too West Side Story is an awful show I have no idea I love musical theater and I cannot understand anything about West Side Story and it's not even like the just the story like it's like the music's bad like everything's just bad

That's so weird how they always end up in projects together. I don't know. That is weird. I guess they're both singers. I don't know. Is he a singer? I have no idea. I love that people complain about too many songs. I saw that on Twitter. Everyone was like, there's so much singing. And I'm like, isn't the song, the show's like called Ballad or something? Yeah, it's like in the title and in the book. She's singing all, she's a singer in the book. Where would you rank this? Catching Fire is obviously, it's the best movie in the world. Is that the first one? It's the second one. But it's like universally like the best movie out of the franchise. This would be my number two or my number three.

Oh, wow. Above. So it'd be Catching Fire and then maybe Hunger Games, the first one, and then Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Wow. Or Flip Those Two. I'm biased because I really, I love Katniss and I love Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah, I feel like you can't really compare. It's hard to, yeah. I would love Rachel Zegler on the podcast too. Rachel, this is a safe space because I literally am like, I picked her up as a client. Like, I didn't know her. I wasn't familiar with her game, but now I get Rachel Zegler and I'm a fan. I'm a fan of her.

I'm a fan of Rachel. I really like him. You like her. Yeah. Yeah. She's another one that's just very hard. I'm trying. I'm trying. I watch her stuff. I get it. She's gorgeous. She looks beautiful. I love all her tributes to like Katniss outfits and stuff. I think that's cool. She's beautiful. She looks like a model. I get it. I get why people wouldn't like her, but I think that pushes me to fight for her more.

I get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the only thing I've seen her in. Yeah. Oh, that's it. You didn't see that. I haven't seen her in literally anything else. And I just followed her on Twitter. Okay. Like two days ago. You didn't see Shazam 2? No. Didn't that happen too? She's like, I just needed a paycheck. I was like, okay, girl. Okay. This is where...

This brought me to another hot topic. So Jacob Elordi has been trashing the Kissing Booth movies. Okay. What is that? I see that everywhere. It was on Netflix. Is he gay in it? No. He's the love interest. It's like, you know, Joey King? You told me about her before. She's Gypsy Rose in the Hulu one. Oh, love. Okay. Really? Oh, wow. Okay. She's so good in that. Yeah.

But they were like just teen, like fluffy, like rom-coms. It was Joey King. And then there's two brothers like fighting for her. Very stereotypical love triangle love story. Okay. But Jacob Elordi, when he's promoting his new movie, Salt Burn. Oh my God. There's so many movies he's in. So many movies. Good for him.

He was saying how he just did those for a paycheck and that they're ridiculous and not serious at all. Well, are they not serious? Have you seen them? They're just like teen, young adult movies. So they are in serious adults. But teens, they're good movies. It's all perspective. Very James Charles coded with the Morphe palette saying it's trash. What?

These people need to not say anything. Why did I say that? Don't say anything. And it's like trashing the role that made you a star. Like, it wasn't anything. This was Jacob Elordi? I would think Euphoria. He got Euphoria because of the kissing booth. So he had to start somewhere. Oh, I see. Okay. I mean, I don't know if there's stands for the kissing booth, but why are people that sad about it? Like, he said...

Look, I do think it's so tacky when people are like, I did it for a paycheck. Because yeah, to some people they love that. That's the whole thing. But I also think it's that big of a deal. It's like Twilight. Rob Pattinson hates Twilight. Everyone's like, it's cute. Exactly. You know what I mean? Also, it's the men that are good to get away with it. That's true. I think Kristen Stewart at the time, everyone was harder on her for hating Twilight. That's true. Physically being disinterested in it. Yeah. But for Rob Pattinson, it's like a quirky thing. Oh, we love Rob. Yeah. We love Jacob Elordi. Well, Jacob Elordi. Yeah. Well, they're both good looking. So I get it. I mean, honestly, that's just...

Pretty privileged is how it is, you know? It is what it is. Yeah. People get away with, like, way more. Yeah. All right. We're back. This is the part of Just Trish that gets a little serious. Do you know what that's from? No. You don't know what that's from? Serious. Less of a Marilyn, more of a Jackie. Serious. Is this a musical? Not too tacky. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You don't watch musicals.

an iconic it's legally blonde the musical which Christian Borle had the affair with Laura Bell Bundy even though he's married to Sutton Foster during Legally Blonde the musical anyways this is part of the podcast where we get serious serious oh that was good that was so good you're like a singer right

I was trying to sing a song earlier with you. What was it? I was trying to sing a song and then you weren't catching it. I don't know. I was singing something. I remember that I caught it late though. I forgot what it was. Shoot. Anyways. Okay. So there's so many, there was actually so many topics to talk about that were like kind of serious. And then like, I feel like just like, I don't know. There's just so much happening this week. There's so much. I was like, this is my pregnancy announcement. We can't have all the drama, all the seriousness of it. He did it. But we're like kind of scared to talk about that because he sounds scary. He like hung someone over a balcony by their feet. Allegedly to both. Allegedly to both. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Settled in 24 hours. I was like, ah! And what's his name? Oh, James Charles. Yeah. Another allegation, which is like also very serious and scary. And who's the scariest of all them? Probably James Charles. James Charles?

Yeah, right? I mean, as far as like, I don't know. Maybe not actually. Maybe, I don't know. Allegedly in the court documents, P. Diddy sounds a little scary, but. Yeah, I allegedly wouldn't be afraid of James Charles unless I was a 15-year-old swing. Oh, I mean, yeah. But as far as who's going to come after us, I don't know. But as far as who's the scariest to society. Oh, in society? Probably.

Probably P. Diddy, I think. I mean, those were like serious, serious, serious allegations with Cassie. It's terrifying. It is, especially because they were in a relationship for a really long time. She's like enduring all this alleged abuse. Yes, alleged abuse and alleged trafficking because –

Oh, you read all of it. I read all of it. Yeah. I was like kind of like couldn't believe it. Crazy. It's just so outlandish. Like how do people –

but I mean it doesn't it kind of made sense like it wasn't didn't blow my mind because I was like oh I could see someone like him like him having these like skeletons in the closet yeah like it's it's so bizarre but to me I think of I don't know I guess I don't know P. Diddy at all I just always I don't know I think of someone like so big as like Eminem or something it's just like why would you even risk that when you have so much to lose but I think people get cocky and think oh especially when it comes to like power dynamics with a woman it's like well who's ever gonna believe the woman and he has so much money so like

I feel like you could just like bury her if anything. Well, I mean, they settled in what, 24 hours, which is like crazy. All that stuff comes out. And it's like, I get settling because like it's a lot to go through, but it's like, that's already all out there. It's like, and if it's all, if it's true, even if it's like 10% true, I mean, that's so wild. It's like endure, like how do you not have PTSD? How did she even get out of it? Like it's. Yeah. And then, cause I remember, I just want to look it up too. And they were,

have been, like, other weird, like, shady things with Diddy, too, in the past. Like, with different, like, ex-girlfriends and different, like, businesses and stuff. So, like, that's why, like, it kind of, like, made kind of sense to me, I guess. But for Cassie's sake, I'm happy that they just settled. Because, like, they, like, went to trial, like, to have all...

to have to relive all that and have all this out there for like public consumption. Like it's such private, like embarrassing things that like, I'm glad that she doesn't have to like relive any of that stuff and she still gets money, you know? Totally. And she got it out there, you know? It's like, at least it's out there. And so it's like, it's kind of out there without having to like relive it. And it's up to everyone else to like, she did her part and then it's up to everyone else to like make sure he's like held accountable and stuff.

Yeah. No, people in power with money. It's like you really just can't go against them. Like that's what's so scary is like you just can't go against them. And like, yeah, she settled and stuff like that. But it's like, does that feel is that enough for her? Hopefully. Hopefully it is. You know, she has like her kids and stuff. And so she's just trying to like move on from it. But yeah, it's hard.

That's all like, I don't know. That whole thing got really dark. And so that's just like, oh man, this is like all really dark. And then James Charles. James Charles. I mean, another allegation, which is like sad. To me, this is like, I won't say the Mistress Harding. The one about Diddy was like crazy. But yeah, it's kind of sad. For which part? I don't know. Like, I just feel like for these, I'm going to say victims.

- Yeah. - The sending, the Snapchatting, the butt pics allegedly to these people knowing their age and I don't know.

it's one of those things like if enough people are saying these things like well there's smoke there's fire and there's enough obviously not every person who's come out like some people have fabricated stories with james but this one the receipts were so specific and from like such a specific time that it all kind of like made sense so i don't know if anyone hasn't seen it so a tiktoker named matthew lawrence um no relation to the lawrence brothers yeah you can say it

Love Matthew Lord. Said that in 2020, James slid into his DMs and said age check, which-

I get to do the age check. Like, just don't. Don't start with that. And the sense of entitlement to, like, just slide into a young teenager's DMs and just, like, straight up just age check. As if James has a shot with just about anyone. Like, I'm like, girl. Girl. It's hard because, like, back in the day, I did want to root for James because so many... I'm, like, an underdog person. Like, a lot of... He was very famous, but a lot of people were also against him. And I felt like there's a lot of, like, homophobia around him, too. So I wanted to root for him. And then all this stuff comes out, and you're like, I...

Now I get Tyra. I was really wanting to believe. I wanted to believe in him. I really did want to believe in him. And then the stuff comes out. I'm like, my God, Tyra.

- What people are forgetting too is he admitted to this. He admitted to saying, yeah, I was just desperate that they were 17. So it's like, there's admission. There's admission of guilt. The video's since taken down, but he admitted to this and was just kind of like, yeah. So it's not like a speculation on if this happened. It did happen and I think that's what people forget, myself included. Sometimes I'm kind of like you, where I'm like, enough time is, but then I'm like,

like, oh no, these people were like underage, you know? And this is my, this is my energy for anyone doing anything to people under age. Like just, even if it is just age check or DMing with them or being friends with them or going out to lunch with them as an adult, like it's all weird to me. And I think it's, it's kind of an unforgivable thing, especially when these people later on are like, the guy didn't

say he was like felt uncomfortable and I know a lot of people get mad too if they're like because what kind of broke my heart a little bit about this situation too is I'm not saying like is like he was saying yeah I know I was 16 and maybe I was you know egging it on or something you know as far as like you know the 16 year old time goes you know I guess I was like flirting or whatever with the snapchats so it's like as if they were the problem like they did something wrong and it's like yeah 16 I flirted with people that were 40 you know what I mean that's not my fault it's not it's not on me yeah so for him to even feel that way I was like and you

I think too now, oh, the timing's suspicious. It's like, yeah, you see someone that did this that doesn't have to take accountability for something that's like pretty serious and like also admitting to this that he's like, yeah, I was like, I shouldn't have done that. Like, you know, I was just, you know, desperate or whatever and not really having to reap like the consequences. It's kind of prospering.

Yeah. Definitely. And I think that's what the guy said too. Like this palette, everyone you're supporting, this guy you're supporting did this. And so many people I think do forget that because there's like mutuals that like hang out with him or are fine with him. And I'm pretty forgiving, especially because it's me, right? Like people who are friends with me, I'm just like, yeah, you know, I've done some crazy crap in my past, but it's like, dude,

Didn't like talk to like these and not even just talk like very much age check, Snapchatting, here's my butt. Yeah. So Matthew said that like after the age check he did, he had just turned 16 at the time too, which is even worse. That's very young. It's November 2020.

That's not even barely 18. That's just turned 16. Just turned 16. Yeah. And he said that after he did tell James that he was 16 after the age check and James replied, oop, I'm not trying to catch a case. But then they kept talking because they kept exchanging DMs and then James had added him on Snapchat. Oh, oh, oh. And then a couple weeks later is when James had allegedly sent a picture of his ass. And then when Matthew wasn't like, you know, didn't give him a...

good response. He was like, well, what the hell did you do? He said, oops, like I didn't mean to send it to you. Sorry. Uh, meant to send it to someone else and then blocked him allegedly. Yeah. So it was almost like true. It seems like a testing the waters kind of thing. And like, I'm sure if he like went into it, then it would have escalated to something else allegedly. But even just allegedly sending that is like,

Even after the age check, like, so say he genuinely didn't know, you know, like, and he was, maybe the guy looks a little bit older. After the age check, you know that your intention is going into it is, oh, I think this boy is cute. And that is why I'm asking his age. You find out he's underage and you already have been freaking dragged through the mud for doing this exact thing. Yeah. You know, then you're not, you genuinely like have some kind of problem. Yes.

Yeah. No, for sure. If you said, I don't want to catch a case, like, you know. You know. You know. You, like, understand the gravity of this. And it all seemed to be around that same, a lot of the same time, like, 2020 and stuff like that, that this was happening. And it doesn't negate from anything. Everyone's like, oh, this was so long ago. It's like, no, this is, like, no matter.

what 20 years from now it's still wrong this is after like because in that video he was like I'm gonna start asking people his age before I talk to them so obviously this had a he like knew so he asked the age check and this was him trying to like be better is the is the guy yeah the guy this was him trying to like improve himself and to like move in the right direction and it like fell backwards allegedly so it's like I

I'm like, my God. And that's why I get why it'd be frustrating for Matthew and like why I want to say this. You see someone doing well. James just had this big commercial for his palette where he was his little heiress tour where he made fun of all his different scandals in the past. Yeah. So I could see that you're seeing someone make fun of all their past scandals and like, oh, isn't it so quirky and funny? Like I had white makeup one time, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then he did this.

Yeah.

I mean, because that's like the era we're in now. I feel like people not knowing it's like not okay to be friends with minors. Like even if you're friendly, obviously this is like different, but like if you're like, just stop. Don't do that. If you're 30 or 20 or something, don't talk to 16 year olds. Yeah.

So weird. It's so – especially with influencer this age. You can go hang out with influencers your own age. Like we're all – they're all young. There's legal young. There's 18-year-olds. I don't know. It's like I get it. He's young but – Yeah, and James would have been 21 at the time of this too. So 16, 21. That's a big age difference. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I know. I don't like like, oh, like it's just one of those things. And it's like, I do know people that are mutuals with him and they really like him. And I'm just like, yeah. And that's what gets frustrating too, because I like the people who are friends with him. I know. And like, I trust their moral judgment. Like, I know they are good people. Yeah. And so it is kind of like, I don't know. Like, I get very. This is a hard can't be friends with, I think. I think that's just a hard, like, I don't know. You can't. Like, I don't know. That's so, I don't know why that's like, people just kind of think it's okay. And they're just like, it's, I don't know. It's just.

know it is so i don't i want to figure out why i guess maybe because he's still so popular i think like colleen became so unpopular like when her all that stuff happened that it became like socially acceptable to like drop her yeah people who were friends with her like actually close but with james he's still so popular so maybe it's people are benefiting yeah and it's like oh well if he still has all these followers she still gets millions of views on tiktok then it can't be that that

Like that's not saying that for me. I'm saying like that's how I can – maybe that's what other people think that are friends with him. I don't know. I think we'll see more come out later that's maybe worse. I don't know. I'm not wishing it. But this – like you said – what's the saying? The smoky fire mountains. Oh, where there's smoke, there's fire. Yeah, I like that. I think that's a lyric to one of my songs. Where there's smoke, we'll find – I think it's – anyways. I don't know. I did not write it. So I guess someone else did. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. Honestly, bad vibes. Bad vibes. And I can't. I just can't. I just can't. Like, I don't know. I don't want to be that person. But, like, I'm laughing out of, like, nervousness because it's just, like, what is wrong with, like, these people? Like, you know what I mean? Like, that happened after?

don't like stop don't do age check like you can maybe right he got famous so young so i feel like he kind of rose psychologically at like an age like i feel like when he was 21 trying to talk to teenagers he still thought he was like a teenager like looked at himself like a kid yeah i get that too because i'm 30 and i don't really think of myself as 30 but i'm also not like trying to talk to little kids yeah no and i think with colleen too i think it was kind of same thing maybe she was like emotionally stunted because she went to like christmas

Christian school and she went home schooled and she kind of like I don't know maybe she was like Emotionally sent in where she thought she was a kid like one of the kids. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know either I so want that we want to understand though. I don't think that's what like puzzles me so much I mean, I asked dr. Drew when he's here. I was like, why do they want to be friends with minors? Like I honestly don't know It's very odd But it's also so weird that people just like

yeah continue to support what's such a serious thing I think with I think people don't take James Charles that serious because he posts his ass willy nilly on Instagram and like Coachella and everything and it's like it's hard to take it's just hard to take him serious so maybe I think that's another element too it's like everyone's kind of like ragged on him for a long time and he's kind of like put himself out

there so it doesn't seem as like threatening yeah you know because it is I'm saying like an appearance maybe that's how some people can like let it skate by because like I see an aspect of James Charles and I'm not like oh yeah I'm like okay yeah yeah you're like it's a lot yeah yeah for sure I don't know yeah so he's just not as threatening so people just like dismiss it yeah yeah

I don't know what to say. We got to like the criminal section of the podcast. We are. The true crime. We got into the criminal section. I don't even know if we want to go into the clean. I really didn't want to. I just. I mean, okay. Bad vibes there. I hate. I hate. This is bad vibes. They're just bad vibes. I know. Shit.

We said we don't watch the video because we're not trying to support that at all. I can't give her a review. I can't give her ad silence. I looked at TikTok clips of it a little bit and I'm just like, I don't know how to describe it, but just seeing the clips, the energy is so bad and so off. And I'm just like, this scares me. Like I'm terrified. Like she's like, there's very few people that I feel have like malice intent. I think people say like dumb things or people don't know, but she's like,

I think she has a lot of, like, malice behind her. Like, she's very calculating. She always would say, this is a long time ago and I grow and change. But it's like, you know, just this summer, like, you're lying and manipulating me to, like... Blaming kids under the bus. Blaming kids. And, like, this isn't, like, a long time ago. This is, like, how are you not embarrassed? I mean, I guess she's just trying to write everything off. So...

There's that. But this is what we're talking about early about the apologizing thing, the pokey mean, whatever, apologizing right away, is like even sometimes an insincere apology can go like a longer way, right? If she would just reach out to like Adam and be like, hey, sorry. Like there's nothing else he could say, right? There's nothing further he could say because he's like, well, he could accept it or not accept it, think it's ingenuine or disingenuine, but at least she did that and it could like move forward. But the fact that she hasn't

with him or the other one, Becky. I only know two. Maybe there's more. I know there's like a list of names I saw swoop do, but there's like two prominent ones that I think of. It's like just reaching out to them and being like, hey, like I'm really sorry, genuine or not. And hopefully she's genuine. I doubt she is, but because I, you know, but, but

just acknowledging, because even with me, that's the apology being like, yeah, that happened. I was just, I'm just a coward. It's like, okay, you're, you're, you're a bad person, but I guess it's some sort of closure. Like at least I acknowledge that, oh, you did do that. You are a shit person. Thank you for that acknowledgement. We can move on. You know what I mean? I think she like, it's, it's odd. She doesn't, she always says to all the people and, but that doesn't, especially Adam, who's made 5,000 videos. And again, not shade. That's not a shade. That's like,

he rightfully could do a whole channel about her. But it's like, clearly you know this one person that you really like affected who even said, I think in a tweet, like if she just like reached out, apologize, I'll just stop. Yeah. Because at that point, yeah, what can you do? You know what I mean? And that's why I didn't want to talk about it because at this point it's like she admitted to being a weirdo and sending like nude photos of me that she had of herself to these people like, like,

And there's this, and there's that. And then she comes back and it's like, as we knew she would. A lot of people are saying for Vlogmas, which, I mean, and I would respect that more too. She came back, I was like, I need the money. Like, I'm looking for me. Yeah. Instead of being like, you know, I missed you guys and this and that. Girl.

- Your therapist said not to blog. Your therapist said don't go on the internet. Like that's what my therapist will always say to me. I'm like, it's my job. Like I need to be on the internet. There's no therapist that's like, you really need to blog right now. Right now is the time to do it. - The people need you. They need your content. - Oh my gosh. - Well I think she actually apologized for not posting. - Yeah, right. - I'm like wait, you apologize to those people? The people that have not seen your video? - And my fans and I'm just like. - That's not the apology they wanted. - No, she still, it's so, and that's why it just like makes me like sick. Like I didn't watch it. I saw the bits and pieces 'cause there's no way I'm just gonna watch it.

It's so, so, so manipulative. And the fact that she either can't see it or it's just, again, it's just all bad intent. There's no good behind it. The energy is off. She said she was embarrassed about her video. The video's still up. I was embarrassed by the podcast that I did with her. I was embarrassed that we had a three-episode podcast. That was deleted in seconds and probably could get a lot more money because of the scandal. I was like, we're deleting that. There was a relationship I was in that made me look stupid. Delete. I delete everything.

If you're embarrassed. I don't know. I just, it's honestly, it's just like a black spot on me. Like this summer when all that was happening and I told her like I was sick and I truly genuinely was when all that was happening. I was like so sick. My daughter was sick and I told her in voice memo because like when I didn't respond right away, I was like, I've literally been sleeping all day. I'm so sick. The

The fact that she, like, didn't care and kept, like, just piling all this trauma on me, like, not only affected me more, like, physically, but, like, I wasn't ovulating. My ovulation was completely off. So it's, like, this all happening now, like, now I'm pregnant and stuff like that. I'm, like, I am not about to let...

this toxicity. It actually angers me and I don't want to be angry because it's the worst feeling in the world. And literally being angry at someone is like, what do they say? It's like drinking poison and expecting the other one to die or something like that. It angers me so much and I don't want to be angry, but so many people are in that same position. They're so angry because there's just zero accountability, zero, literally. Again, there's very specific people you hurt. It's children involved. It's like

how are you not embarrassed? How are you just coming back on here? And I don't know. And it's like, I do feel for people like Adam, who's very vocal about this. Like, it's like to not have that, like sort of like, Adam, I'm sorry. Like, you know, it's, it's so easy to say sorry when you've like hurt someone, whether that's your intention or not. Like you hurt a child who obviously is traumatized still to this day because it's like,

again, not, there's no judgment, but it's like, yeah, you can't let it go because there's, there's, there's no closure there. You know what I mean? And it's like someone you looked up to as like this child and that you were close with as a child. And it's just like, I get angry. I get angry. And the fact that she's just back and, and I don't want to be so in my, I'm choosing truly like now truly, like I'm just trying to scroll past and I hope like she's just in her corner, you know, with her core people watching her, like you do you, I guess, but just,

I'm just hoping to fade into oblivion because this is like a person with like, she's bad. She's a bad person. You know what I mean? And I don't say that about many people. There's less than like, like I think there's maybe three people I think are like truly bad. Everyone else, I'm like, they made a mistake. They're not my cup of tea, whatever. But, and I just feel it in my physically. And for those kinds of people, I feel like,

I know I've said this before, but I truly have to mean at this point, I feel like I just like need to like not look at anything about her. Cause it like angers me. And I feel like when I do that with people that are truly like evil, where they have like malice intent to like hurt me or like make stuff up to hurt me, which is like what she clearly did. She's just like lying and gaslighting me, like all this stuff like that. And not to even like go back to like what she was doing in the first place, like making fun of me. And I was like, I don't know. I can't even like, I can't even grasp it, but I just, I have, I have to just like block that out completely. Cause like physically, like,

She makes me like sick. Do you know what I mean? Like I can't I can't even like look at it It's so I don't know. It's that bad energy vibes, which I really don't feel like I feel like with this podcast Yeah, because it's drama or whatever and it's like it's whatever like if I talk about people I was like I almost have like no connection to it But this is just something that's like so but a lot of people like you even said this too like you're not directly affected But you have this like bad vibe

You're like, this is not it. What I remember too is like, and this is like such a random story. I've only met her like really like one time. And when I was working for Joey and they filmed a collab and he had to go get something downstairs and it was just me and her in the room. And like, and I was thinking about this over the weekend. She specifically just like, wouldn't even like look at me. And it was just me and her in the room. Like literally just me and her. Oh my God. She was like either on her phone or just like looking.

I remember – but, like, wouldn't even, like, look at me. And I remember, like, trying to make small talk a little bit, but it was just like, oh, yeah. And it was just that. And, like, I work in entertainment for so long, so, like, I'm used to, like, talent just kind of, like, being standoffish and you kind of just, like, you know, are invisible or whatever. But then that just in context with, like, everything else, you know, it's like – But, okay, maybe so. Maybe there's, like, celebrities who have to, like, prepare. You know, they're, like, doing an acting scene. So, like, yeah, they can't talk to you or something like that. But I don't know. Me and, like, anyone else I've seen, like, celebrity-wise, like –

They always talk. Like, I always talk to the people behind the camera. Because it's like, especially if you're alone in a room with someone, you're going to talk to them. But I always do. Because that's like, it's so cliche to only talk to, like, the talent. But, like, especially you. It's just you and Joey. You know what I mean? It's like when you would be in the, I think we did a fast food one. I don't even think you saw us. But there was one time me and Joey did, like, a fast food video. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was just in the back. Did people see you or no? A little bit, yeah. Oh. And to me, I was like, well, it'd be weird to, like, not acknowledge you. You're in the back, like, this whole time. And I get it.

like producer you're like silent in the back but it's like I don't even TV shows I just I always talk to people I don't know yeah she I'm just very seen off and like yeah but and we knew she was gonna come back I just never expected her to come back so casually like fall vlog fall vlog wild what's the second one second one was like Christmas here we are vlogmas

Like, girl. Girl. And I think also, like, you should take enough time away for, like, the punishment to fit the crime. You need more than four months. Like, you did something, like, horrendous, and obviously you don't want to say sorry, and obviously you're not sorry, but you're just trying to come across more sincere. It's like, take a little more time.

Give a year. You know, it's like Shane left for a year and what was his like jokes about kids or something like that? It was something like not even as like serious. Like he wasn't talking. I don't know. Whatever. Went away for a year. Kind of came back. I guess it was like specific victims who were like, I guess all Becky was saying like she was like very, very triggered by Colleen coming back, you know, and she was already having like a really tough time like and going through therapy and this like kind of put her like a few steps backward. Just like you said, not get any acknowledgement. That's what it is. There's no closure for these people who are closers.

clearly so upset and like, yeah. And like, I think that's like the James Charles thing. Anything you see someone, you know, with success and you're this child who felt some type of way and her apologies, like, sorry, I heard some people with my comedy or something like that. It's like, okay, but there's a very specific person you hurt with that you humiliated on stage. Not everyone had that experience. Um,

So say sorry for that. You threw Adam under the bus with malice intent, you know, editing specifically out to say, you know, oh, he asked for it, even though you like very, again, just bad intentions. And like, that's something like, just apologize that you're not going to go to jail yet unless there's some like prover. And that's what I say. Like, I don't think you have to like get over anything. If there's actual, like something criminal that happened and stuff like that, like, yeah, you could, you know, go to the police with it. But yeah,

Still, there's malice intent behind all those things and stuff like that. And even the girl that was on stage, maybe that was her comedy or whatever. But that girl is clearly upset and very vocal about it. It's not a secret. Yeah. There's so many little pieces. But especially with Adam, for example, too. He came out that first time and she buried him. She had to run him off the internet almost. And he was a kid. Literally. Literally a kid at the time. And it's like...

Oh, my God. It really does drive me crazy. And like I said, I knew she was going to come back. I didn't expect this. And like, I would respect it if she's just like, yeah, I got to get back to work because I have kids I need to support. Yeah. That I need to put through school and stuff. Then it's like, fine, you know, whatever. But to just come back, oh, it just gives me...

It's like a swarmy little feeling. I don't know. It's very like there's something not genuine about it because she says, I've been doing a lot of therapy during this time. So like, okay, so you came back. Why aren't you sharing that? Like I'm doing a lot of therapy and I've learned that. Yeah. Something. Yeah. What did you work on? Yeah. You're not coming back with something you learned from your therapy, like telling us, okay. And I learned that I did this wrong or that's wrong. Or this is what I see different now.

From what I saw before. So I don't believe it. I don't believe the therapy. No, there's zero genuineness. There's so zero. Like you just see it. You just see...

soulless like nothing behind the eyes just trying to manipulate and she can't because she has like all these young people that follow her obviously the the comments and stuff like that but it's just wild like again this is something that's like so serious it involves children and it's just to come back like that and it's like yeah what are you working in therapy for because you're sick in the head like okay tell us you know like be aware and I think like if you can be aware that you've done you have like a sickness which I don't know I'm not diagnosing her but there's obviously something wrong with her like it

maybe explain that and people can maybe have a little more empathy or whatever. But even if it's like I talked to a therapist and I realized I was like emotionally stunted, like it doesn't even have to be like a diagnosis, just like something to explain. Why are you do this? Why did you lie about him? Like why? And apologize. Like you said, you buried this person, got sent so much hate to incite hate on someone like a kid, a kid with also like lies, just like leaving details out and stuff to make him look some type of way. Like that's again, really malice, really like evil behavior.

And that deserves an apology. That deserves like apology, basic apology. And again, I think that's all Adam asked for in the beginning. And it kind of does go a long way for both sides because like I said, she apologized to me. And it's just like at that point, it's like, okay, well, I don't have nothing else to say because she admitted she's a crap person and that's it. And you can support that person if you want or not. But there's like, again, very few bad, bad people on the internet. And it's like,

I think it's like better to just like not give them attention. And a lot of people said that she like, I'm not giving a review. They clipped it on TikTok or whatever like that. I think that's just the way to go because I think she just, you know, came back for attention and money and just not giving her that is the only way to. Yeah. And I think she's, I mean, it's pretty transparent. Like she, it's the route of just like, and then she's going to be normal and keep posting like every day, every other day. And at some point she's going to become normal that she's back and like, yeah.

But God, how tasteless. How tasteless. So tasteless. Just dumb, evil, manipulative, like all of it. I'm just like, you're, oh, it like makes me like physically sick too. All because you cut your hair too. They always cut their, always a hair change. Show me I'm changed. I'm just a mom with like, and I like, again, that's like another weird like,

segue is a manipulation tactic to be like in that same apology to be like oh look my kids made some work and I'm just being a mom and it's very because of course like you're not going to hate on someone like kids you know so it's like to put that in there that same thing is just a little bit

Like, I just don't know how she's not embarrassed. Like, I don't know. I would literally hide for at least a year. She's got the money. She has a $6 million household, her $4 million. She's got the money. She can hide for a year. But I don't know. It's like, it's the attention. It's the greed. It's all of it. In my opinion, I just don't think that she thinks she did anything really that wrong. No, nothing. Because the way that she like moves about this whole thing, I don't, and you can tell because everyone that's like come out, that's like her friend and her family and stuff, like

Todrick and Jojo and everyone in her family, they all just kind of label it as like drama or like cancel culture or whatever and stuff too. So I think that in her head, she's probably still a victim of all that and I don't think that she sees that there's actually victims of her and that she is not.

And there's like something wrong with her. Like for real. Like there is. And it's like, and it doesn't have to be like a mental diagnosis, but there's something wrong. Like the obsession, the obsession, just even like my photos and stuff like that and the pictures and like sending that also stuff. It's like, again, she did this a month after giving birth and stuff like that. It's like, it's not like you change to say, oh, this happened years ago. It's like this summer you were literally throwing kids under the bus and like lying to me. That never happened. And then it comes out and like, oh.

What? Like, to give it out to someone and then them just keep lying. Like, that's what I'm saying. There's, like, something, like, seriously wrong with that person. If I get caught, I'm just like, well, okay, I mean, that was a bad time and I wasn't going through a dark thing. Whatever. But to kind of double down was...

And I just, like, the whole thing, it just, it's really sickening. It's really disgusting. And, like, again, her fans are very young, which is also a little bit eerie to this whole thing because the support is like, we love you. And also it's like, okay, yikes. I think it'll still eat away at her that she's not YouTube's golden child that she once was. Oh, for sure. Everyone loving her. I think it's like the mask is, like, off, but she's going to try her best to, like,

To pit it. Yeah. Yeah. And that just shows like the manipulation of it all. It's like so crazy. I mean, it's great. What's crazy is when you get held accountable for something or like people all see it, like the whole internet literally came crashing down on her and she still didn't see it. Like, you know what I mean? Like,

in a lesser sense when people have like all come crashing down on me it's like at some point it's just like you're hit over the head with it you're like whoa okay maybe let me let me figure out like what i'm doing wrong because sometimes i like couldn't see it either like sometimes you're just like wait what am i what did i say i was so bad what do you know and so it's like you have to take the whole internet to come crashing down and then you're like okay now i kind of like see it okay this is not what i should have said and i handled this wrong but for her to like just like not see it and not think she did anything wrong her family included like all this stuff just all these excuses like you said people are making like it's drama it's this it

Or they say like straight up lies. No, I mean, when you hear what people next to her say, they say this is all lies, which means that's what she believes and tells other people. Well. So it's not. But I think what I've learned is with you, she apologized so quickly. And I think it's an ego thing. Like you're somebody. And she still sees Adam as nobody. And I don't think she will ever get over that part that somebody that in her mind is no one did this to her.

You know what I mean? She just won't ever get over that. So I think, because after four months, you're not coming back with an apology to Adam and close the case and move on. Yeah, because

She will never give him that. Yeah. Because you can't say much. When someone's apologized, it's kind of like take it or leave it. That's happened. Like what else can you do? Again, if there's something like criminal that happened, you know, that's up to like Adam or something like that. But in this kind of case of like she did something wrong, she apologized, take it or leave it. At least it's happened. But the fact that she hasn't, I think is like the most frustrating to people. And like, again, I see that on like a lesser thing too. Sometimes I'm just like, well, I don't know how to apologize or whatever. But it's like very simple to just be like, I'm sorry. And like it probably wouldn't be genuine from her, but at least it's something more than just this.

'Cause she didn't even really apologize in the video. She's just like, I know, I hurt people with my comedy. - I was immature, yeah. - Yeah, like, girl, you're 34 back then. It was not that long ago, all of a sudden it happened.

So, yeah, when there's physical – when there's actual people that are talking, it's like maybe a lot of this. They've all done interviews with like – some of them did Rolling Stone, Wall Street Journal, Insider. Like they all have bases and names now. Like they did become like kind of public figures. Adam like always was. But a lot of these other ones who like they didn't want to be influenced or anything, you know, but they all of a sudden became like the faces of this like case and to not –

To not say anyone's names at all or, like, humanize them at all is so... I just... Or to send them, like, an email or something. Damn, like, just... I would...

Even if I didn't think I was like in the wrong, I feel like this guilt, I'd feel this thing. I'm like, wow, these people are really upset. Like, let me, even if you're not fully there yet, which is like, if you're doing therapy, you should fully realize what you did was wrong. But it's just like to not, I don't know, that guilt alone. Once you feel like bad that you ruined someone's life and humiliated someone. I guess. And I feel like a lot of it's like, oh, it's like for legal reasons or whatever. She can't say that. But it's like at this, I don't think any of them, this is just like literally just my opinion, but I don't think any of them would press like any kind of, cause I feel like if they were going to, they wouldn't.

They would have. 100%. But I know. And I think literally all they just want is like... An apology. Just to have their feelings validated with an apology. Yeah. I think so too. So I don't think this whole like legal excuse to you. It's like you're just like...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's – yeah. I'm not sticking around for any of the vlog. I saw the – I couldn't even see like the one where she's wearing blue – episode two, whatever. Yeah, no. The blue sweater one. I'm like, no, I'm not sticking with this whole – Is that what it was called? Blue sweater? No, I'm not watching. I can't. I can't. Unless something like massive blows up. I literally have to like skip past it. I put not interested because I was just like –

face was making me so angry and like I I know when like again that anger is like not good for anyone but it's like there's a reason obviously and I'm like I just need to ignore this completely and like cut it off because I am not about to let her ruin my like physical health again especially now like during my pregnancy because she did enough this summer and I was just like it was so stressful and you know when you tell someone like I don't feel well and then they just keep being like well this happened and did you see this now I'm worried about this it's like I'm

Girl, like, my daughter's sick. I'm sick. Like, I'm trying to get pregnant. I can't ovulate. Like, all this stuff like that. I, like, didn't ovulate for literally, like, eight weeks. Like, I didn't have a period for eight weeks. It was just so stressful. And then having that constantly. I'm like, God, if someone tells me they're sick, whether they're, like, lying about it or not, just leave them alone. I'm like, okay, you're sick. You know what I mean? Like, when you were, like, I was rushed to the hospital. I was like, don't worry about the podcast. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, you're like, it's going to be up by noon. I'm like, it's fine. Like, it's fine.

You could have like died. Like, you know, I don't know. It's just bizarre. And I have like no respect for people like that either. It's just the whole thing's embarrassing. Oh my God. What a saga. Little did we know this was going to be. Oh my God. Like I couldn't, like you don't think it could get worse. And then you're like, I see a face and I'm like, no. Anyways. Positive. I'm so sorry, my baby. Please don't.

Don't absorb any of this. Don't absorb these negative vibes.

'Cause in general doing this, 'cause I think people were scared when I started doing this, like, oh, drama again. But it's like, you know, in general, I'm like, I am pretty spiritually enlightened. I'm pretty disconnected from stories. It doesn't really affect me. And if it does, I'm like not talking about it. Clearly if someone affects me, I just don't talk about that person. So it's like at the end of the day, if it's like something silly, you know, which I think is the most of our stuff. Think about like Jacob Elordi's like kissing booth. I was like, okay, like not that serious. But anyways, any final thoughts? Should we say all of them?

I'm literally speechless at this point, but...

Okay. Well, it's... The last of our Colleen updates for the time, for the foreseeable future. Yeah. I think it needs to be... Yeah. I need until I have this baby and then maybe physically I can stomach some stuff, but I don't think it's going to be now, especially because I'm in my happy mood and our just Trish mood and our just Trish podcast. But I hope you guys have a really good Thanksgiving. This is our final episode of the week. So have a great Thanksgiving and just be thankful for...

what you have, the health, the good health. We'll be back next week with the hot topics, of course. We'll be back next week with a guest. And thank you guys for everything. I'm thankful for you guys. Truly. I mean it. It's amazing to be here. I feel like I went to our Kardashian boys. Like truly amazing. It's amazing what we're doing. And yeah, I love you guys so much. I'm pregnant.

Just Trish with Oscar, Moses, and Elvis. There's four of us now here. So yeah, thanks guys for watching. Oscar, thank you. I love you so much. And Moses, I love you.

And audience, I love you so much. And baby, I love you so much. And yeah, baby number two. Woo-hoo. Green Keep Positive vibes. Where is it? Somewhere. I don't know which way this direction goes. The baby's in there somewhere. All right. Have a great, happy Thanksgiving. We'll see you guys next time on Just Trish. Yay. Aw.