Rosanna Pansino CALLS OUT Colleen Ballinger, the TRUTH About MatPat & EXPOSING Bears 02:42:58

It's snow time. Let it snow.

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. These are good vibes today, you guys. You don't want to miss this episode of Just Trish because we are already, the vibes are immaculate. It is Just Trish. No, it's not Just Trish today. We have a co-host, Oscar, who's also editor, producer, really our only other crew member, which is wonderful. I love our little crew, though. I love it, too. It's just the three of us. It's like, we got it done over here. I know. We really do. It's amazing. I know for next week for Thanksgiving, I'm going to have everyone compile Things We're Thankful For, meaning us three, Things We're Thankful For.

And I already was like, Oscar's at the top of my list. Oh, my God. Yeah. I know. And you randomly tweeted. Oh, well, that day I felt so bad. Oh, no. I was being so annoying. You were not. And I was like delayed and paying you. I was just like, oh, my gosh, I'm going to tweet Oscar. Because I also was like, can you edit this? Can you do that? I just don't.

I just don't want to be that person because you do so much already. And I never want to be that annoying person where I was like, oh, God, trash, you know? You literally are not. Really? No, you always ask for little things and then you act like in your head they're so big. I'm like, it's no big. I hate asking. I hate asking. Like, I'm someone who like never, it's like they bring me wrong food. Like, I'll just eat the wrong food. Like, I don't want to like correct it. I don't want inconvenience. Yeah, I just don't like it. And so since you're already doing it, I'm like,

I don't know. But this is like just Trish. I'm so like, I told you this, like all we like do and like think about, and I know you have like other things going on, but this is like our full time thing. So I'm just like, okay, it needs to be this and this and you know, and we're figuring it all out and stuff like that. But I always, and then I tweeted, I was just like, you're just like the best. And I meant it. I was just like, I never check my mentions. I never check my messages. I'm always afraid someone's yelling at me about something. I've had this fear for like years. I don't know why. Yeah. So I never check anything. And I'm randomly just scrolling through and seeing that. I was like, oh my God.

I'm so sweet as that. Do other people, will you see other people like replying? Like if I wrote that and someone else is like, Oscar, like, will you see that or no? No. Oh, really? You need to read it. You know, I assume the worst always. I'm always like, someone's going to be upset about something. So I'm just never going to look. Really? I guess I should start. Maybe. I don't know. Twitter is very crazy. Like it is kind of like for a while, like this is a toxic place, but I actually love it now. Like, I don't know. Maybe it's like, I'm only, I don't know. Like for some reason, either people completely disappeared like haters or like,

they have me blocked. I think for a while, for a minute, like they had me blocked or something. I don't know. It's weird. It's so bizarre. But they would like block me and I was like, that's so, anyways, it's great because I see nothing. I never see like an ounce of hate. So if it's out there, I don't see it, which is kind of like if you don't see it, I feel like it doesn't exist. So right now I just see all positive stuff on X and Twitter and social media and I love it so much. It's like so

And you're getting all your tea there too. You're manifesting interviews there. That's how I feel like I'm going to get it. I know. We have so many. With the Grammy nominations coming out, I was just like, these are all our dream guests being nominated. We have Olivia Rodrigo. We have Ice Spice. We have Troye Sivan. I'm like, oh my God, wait, these are all people we love. Are all those people nominated? Yes. Yeah. I was just like, those are all our dream guests. Maybe we'll be at the Grammys. We'll be our little platform at the Grammys. How do we get that? Oscar, you know how to get that. You're in mainstream media. How do we do it?

How do we get to be next to E.T. right there? Can you imagine? With my microphone. Moses is doing sound. You almost see that you have the T. Right. We have the T and the T. I'm the T and the E.T. I just put mine over there. With that little pink platform on the red carpet. That'd be everything. Yes. How do we get that? Do you know how? Are you just saying because I'm going to be competition with E.T.? E.T., we'll share the interviews.

You see some events and like there's really random outlets that you never hear in your life. Yeah, all the time. And they're just there with like the little microphone. So I think some events are probably easier than you think. I feel like we can definitely get to like some premieres or something eventually and then maybe work our way to the Grammys. Yeah, because now the strike is over so we can start going to premieres. Strike is over. We can start acting a fool now that the strike is over.

Come on, idol people. I want all of you on here. Let's get – let's go. I know. I thought about that. That's the first thing I thought about when the strike was over. I was like, ooh, we can get the idol people on here. Finally, they're free. Yeah. It's amazing. So congratulations to the actors. The strike is over. We did it. I see all over TikTok like these like people who are like, you know, just like random actors being like, finally, we can get back to work. And I'll be like, is this why you're not working? Yeah.

I'm just kidding. No, I'm the same way. I'm insane after that. I haven't worked in 15 years. Why do you get residuals for like Nathan for you and stuff like that? That's wild. Yeah. It's kind of, I don't know. I'm glad it's over. I don't know if they like got what they wanted though, right? It was kind of like they didn't get the full AI. Yeah. They had to kind of like meet in the middle about certain, certain things. Like, but,

I think overall, at least for the next three years. Yeah. In three years, we'll guess. We'll see what happens. And then what? Then it could be another strike? They have to renegotiate in three years. In three years? If they don't. Yeah. That's how long this agreement is good for, is for three years. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's like nothing. That's crazy. Yeah. So it could all happen again in three years. Or who knows?

Really? Who knows? I feel like every year things just are like so wild. So I guess we'll see. Up for negotiations. Yeah. How do you get the interviews on the red carpet? Like how do they decide there or is it predetermined? With celebrities, a lot of it's predetermined. For like the big names, they'll kind of like arrange in advance like to make sure that they'll talk.

And then some of it's on the – because the guest list is also like very random sometimes for premieres or any kind of event. So some of it's like on the fly. But if there's someone that you definitely want, you kind of reach out and plan in advance to make sure they stop because it can be very like –

you know, just walk. Yeah. I always wondered that like influencers that go to like these events, are they like getting pulled? Like what if they don't know it? You know, like you would know them, but like what if they don't, other people don't know them. Yeah, it's really awkward. Turning someone down is so, that's why I'm glad I don't really do like events or anything anymore because it's like,

It's very uncomfortable. My problem is I would have trouble saying no if I was like alone covering carpets. Right. But for the most part, it's like you know who you want. So if you don't want someone, you kind of just turn around and you pretend not. You put your mic down. You pretend to just like not be hit. And then publicists kind of know to like not bring them to you. Oh my God. That's.

Oh, that's like my biggest fear. But it's also like sometimes they'll catch you and be like, I have this person. Can you talk to them? And then you'd be like, we're going to pass. And then they are so persistent. Oh, no. So I'd be a terrible publicist because I would feel so awkward like coming up and saying, oh, do you want to talk to this random girl? Yeah. And that's.

And it's so awkward because even if they're really well-known, like sometimes you just like – like you don't know what to ask them if you're not prepared. Yeah. Like that's how I would feel. I'd feel like, okay, I don't even know. That's why I don't do red carpets because like also like just like I know sometimes the cameras are up and then sometimes all the cameras go down. Yes. And that's my biggest here. So this is no shade to any influencer. This is about me being on a red carpet. I would be like, no, thank you. I do not want –

all the cameras going down when I come up. I saw there was like a TikToker. I forgot who it was and I'm so mad I forgot who it was but she was like posting herself at this event on the red carpet and she did that like she was like posing trying to like flex a little bit and then someone like quote tweeted it and then it was like look at all the photographers putting their cameras down. Oh. Oh my biggest fear. And that's so sad. But like I don't knock the influencers for going because like I get it like

It's so funny. I talked to Moses about this too. Like, I always see them going to the Oscars and stuff and I'm like... Yeah. And for me personally, I would be like, so I'm not nominated. I'm not an actor. Why am I here? Sort of thing. But on the flip side,

the flip side because Moses disagrees with me. He thinks like, oh, you should go be senior at the Oscars. Like how many people get to like be on the red carpet at the Oscars? I'm like, no, but I'm not nominated. Why would I go? I'd feel like so. Usually they get for like those big events. A lot of the times they either like get paid or get like special access. So they kind of like sell it. Wait, influencers get paid to go? Yeah, because they'll have to like have the post like X amount of posts or something like that. What? Yeah. Okay, well then. There's a reason they go there. Wait, really? I think her name was Tiff Mayra. Who?

Because I saw it too. Influencer shares. Oh, the girl on the carpet. Yeah, because I saw it. And she walked the red carpet and suddenly everyone put their cameras down. There's no flashes. Yeah. And then she walks out and then she's like, okay, I'm going to try again. She came back again and again. Oh, wait, wait. What? Why did she come back? She really wanted the hustle. The grind. I get it. I love that. Wait, what did she do? First of all, I kind of live for that. I know. That's chaos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's chaos. That's chaos.

have Moses be there just so he can take the pictures like Moses get up get up there well you know I'm the paparazzi literally I would bring you to all the events just in case that happens that's wild I love that she went back do you know her no I just saw her on twitter yeah but was

this recent why did I not see this like last week I think I saw it yeah you did show me this one oh my gosh okay I know sometimes you see things and you don't really think anything of it then it pops up in conversation I'm like oh yeah this is this random video I saw two weeks ago is in my head somewhere oh right like you know that's

I love that. Where was she at? Do we know? I have no idea. Like, cause I saw it out of context, like someone trying to like make fun of her, which is like so lame. Like first of all, getting the invite there is a big deal in and of itself. So like I would never make fun of someone. People are just like, so like, they're just like bored. And I get it. I get it. Cause like in the privacy of your own home, you're just like, Ooh, cause there's certain things. God, we saw a TikTok yesterday. I can't think of what it was. And it's just like so funny. And you're just like, why do you remember what that was? If it's bad, we won't say it. And I was just like, Oh no, this wasn't a TikTok. It was Marietta Fursight. Oh, okay.

It's very niche. We don't need to talk about it, but I was trying to think what it was. And sometimes, you know, something you just crack up so hard. You're just like, oh my God, why would that person say that? And you like get so embarrassed for them. I don't know. It was a whole thing, but I

I feel like when people make fun of people like that, it's just like, yeah, you're just like sad or whatever. You just like never know because sometimes it's like – like I think of Emma Chamberlain at Beautycon when like – literally I think there's like two photos of her from Beautycon because like no one knew who she was. But it's like her first ever red carpet and now it's like you – like she's so popular. So you just never know. Yeah. Wait, did no one take pictures of her?

Literally just like two photos. Oh. And then no one like, I was the only one who interviewed her because I liked her. Oh my God, what a flex. I know, that was like my big, my big, I'm like exclusive. You knew, you knew, you're like, this girl's going to be a big star. I was gagged when I saw her. Yeah. Now look at her. You just, you never know who's going to pop off. Yeah, that is true. Maybe that girl, what's her name? Tiffany Bale? What is it? Bale. Bale. Tiffany Bale may pop off one day. And they're going to regret not taking her photo. That's everything though. I kind of love that.

You see like old, really old paparazzi videos of like Brad Pitt in like the 90s and him trying to get photographed and stuff like that, you know? And it's like, you got to start somewhere. You just never. Yeah. You could be the next big thing and no one will have any idea. I'm shook that these people get paid to go to the Oscars. I'm so shook. So I don't know if it's the Oscars might not. I know a lot of other, especially smaller ones, but some, because they either get paid or they're offered like really exclusive like access and stuff. Because there's some events where it's just like the name and the prestige of being there is like enough.

Right. But there's some where it's like if they want specifically – it's like a little mini brand deal almost. Right. To get X amount of coverage or whatever. I think it's Chris Olsen who goes everywhere. He goes to Cannes. Chris Olsen's on everything. Everything. He got to interview Austin Butler. I was like –

Wow. And he's on Mean Girls, the Mean Girls trailer. Yeah. What the hell? That's wild. That's amazing. There's songs that like once you do a couple of mainstream things and people – it's like the go-to for like every agency or whatever. We're like, oh, who can we think of that's like safe, that's like mainstream, whatever. Yeah. Chris Olsen. Yeah, yeah. Who's like gay? Who's fun? Who's cute? Yeah, Chris Olsen. Yeah. I know I'm jealous. I'm jealous of everything he has. He's best friends with Meghan Trainor. He does songs with her. He's in the Mean Girls. He gets to go to Cannes Film Festival. He's at the Oscars. Yeah.

I was like, I love it. He follows me. Maybe I should DM him. I don't think he's ever messed. Oh, you know him? I only met him once, but he did a collab with Joey once when I was working for him. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, there's some TikTokers who are just like really killing it. And I'm just like, wow, that's amazing. I think good for them always. I always think good for them when they get like deals. I was just like, one day it'll be me. One day it'll be us.

One day it'll be us. I'm just trying to get, you know what? So I was telling you like last week I was kind of like up and down like mentally or whatever. And one thing that was like, I was getting randomly just like upset about, but it was just because of my own jealousy. Not even influence, like micro influencers, I guess, who are just like, you don't really do much. They're just hot. Yeah. And they like in their bio, they just have like an Amazon wishlist. Oh, and I was like so mad about that. I was like, that is what to just be hot enough that people want to send you stuff. I'm like, that is crazy.

It is crazy. But people have been doing that for so long. I know. I think it was one of those weeks where like every little thing was just like making me like upset in some way. I was like, how can you be just hot if people want to just send you? I was like going, I was spiraling. It's not funny. I hear that all the time. People get so mad. Like a lot of like, um, like OF girls and stuff. They'll, they'll do that. They'll have like a, uh, a wishlist and be like, well, I should just buy you stuff. Should I just send you stuff? I've never like had an Amazon wishlist because everything, like some of the stuff I see on there that people on their wishlist is like bedsheets for $32. Um,

send me a thousand dollars and I'll decide what I do with it. I would take any little thing. I'd be like, you would see my, it'd be like a random rug. It would be like, like a vacuum. Like I would have a coffee. I would have the most like, acid I can stop. I know what you're getting here for Christmas. The rug and a coffee maker. The rug is in. I don't do presents. I just give bonuses to everybody. Like here's a check. Because,

like that. Like I'm that person. I'm just like, I don't know what they would like. Will they even like, I'm like, here's this money. Just go spend it or whatever. But I think it's like different when you like work with someone and just, cause I never know. Everyone's so sweet. I'm like, land people always like think of really thoughtful gifts. I'm like, I'm just write checks to people. I'm like, go buy what you like. I've already been thinking about, cause I'm like for your Christmas present, like it has to be unique. So I already started planning. I'm so excited. I'm like literally, it's weird. I'm like the easiest and the worst wife work. Cause like I buy literally

buy literally everything. You buy it for yourself every time you like something. Yeah, which is not like a flex. I'm not like super rich. I just spend way too much money. But I always just buy what I want. And then it's like, yeah. But on the flip side, I'm like so – like if someone gets me like a freaking water bottle, I'm like, oh my god, that's so nice. Like I love truly anything, but you don't have to give me anything. But I know when the holidays come around, I always am like, I don't know what to get anyway. So I'm just like, I'll just do bonuses. I used to give bonuses to my friends that don't even like work with me or anything like that. I'd just be like, here's a check. Yeah, a friend bonus. Yeah.

Because they would always get me cool items and I was like, oh, I don't know what you get anybody anymore. And I'm really – Moses, poor Moses, like gets like no – I just get him candy literally. Yeah.

I think we went clothing shopping for your birthday and I don't know. You're the most difficult person to buy for. You just don't want things. Wait, you bought him skims though, right? Yeah, which we haven't done a review. Yeah, I was going to say, I keep getting targeted men's skims at it. I keep meaning to ask Moses how the skims are. Yeah, well, he hasn't done it yet. I'll wear it next time. Okay, it's just the underwear and the t-shirt. He's like, I'm waiting to do it, which I told him he should do a TikTok, but he didn't. He's like, I'm waiting to do a TikTok on it. I'm like, well, when's

It's not coming. Let's get to it. I feel like I'm one of the few that has it, you know? Did you get the socks? No, we just got underwear and t-shirts. I keep seeing the socks, and the socks look cute. The socks are comfy. I wore skim socks for my Taylor Swift cosplay. I love skim socks.

cosplay. Oh my God. Skims is really soft though. I like them. They're just expensive for socks. I know, but they look so cute. I like little edges. Anyway. Yeah, no, Skims is everything. They're just in a Swarovski collection and it's like $2,000 for like a Swarovski. It's like crazy. Their stuff is so expensive though. I'm just like, oh, can I model for them? Like I would love to just get free PR from them. Love of the Kansas City Chiefs. I love this. Okay. What was your inspiration today? Oh my God. I can tell you had good vibes this morning with your text and

And I was like, that's why I ran back to my mom's house. My mom actually ran back to her house. I was like, get it out of posh. We're giving it to Oscar because you have been so wonderful. You're so sweet. Yeah. So tell me the inspo. Originally, I was going to cosplay as Brooke. Oh, my God. I want to cosplay as her, too. Because I have my little Uggs. Can you see them? You don't have a shoe cam. No. I don't.

Wow, that's pretty flexible, PCM. Is that in frame? Is that in frame? I think it is. That one's good, yes. I really wanted, I loved Brooke's outfit in her interview with her. I love it. She looks so cute. The San Diego. So I was like, I want a pink San Diego crew neck and Uggs. Ugh. But I couldn't find her freaking crew neck. I was going to buy this crew neck anyway on Black Friday. I already had plans. Is there sales on Etsy? I refused to buy clothes until Black Friday. Okay.

Oh my God. Because in my head, everything's on sale on Black Friday. Oh my God. I love that for you. I love it. You're so smart. You're smart with money, huh? Stuff that I shouldn't be able to buy, like clothes and stuff, that's just kind of necessary, I'm like, I'll just wait until it's on sale. I never want to pay for a price. Wow. But then I'm bad because I have a lot of collections. You buy little things. Yeah, like trinkets and knickknacks. I'm bad with. Okay, okay, okay. But yeah, I was going to save for Black Friday. I was like, oh, but I feel like it'd be cute today with the Uggs. And then I was like, if you didn't sell it on Poshmark. You're so.

You're just like, if you did sell it on Posh, you can't find it, which is usually both true. After a podcast, I usually take a photo. I take it off. I give it to my mom right away. I'm just like, Posh it, because I just don't like things in my house. Like, I'm such a hoarder, so I just try to, like, get everything out. It's like, if I'm not going to wear it again, which is most – that's why I buy cheap stuff. I just, like, here, like, sell it. I was gagged that you didn't sell it on Poshmarker. In my head, you just, like – We had offers for it, and I was just like, like, okay, like, no. Like, I don't know. Like, we had some offers. That is so sweet. And my mom's so funny. She keeps it. But I'm so happy because I'm like, oh, yay.

oh, yay, it's something that like... It's so cute. I love it. It looks great on you. I love it so much. Yeah, it's a cute... Hers was vintage, like from the 90s, but there's like replicas they sell online and I got mine like overnight. So it's yours. I was worried. I hate when people ask to borrow stuff because like I'll let them borrow and I'm like a 2X. I wear 2X and people are like, oh, I'm swimming in this. And I'm like, oh, like don't trigger me. Yeah. And I know...

you are. You were like a large in Sharkboy and I'm like a double, I'm a one X in like Lava Girl. So I was like, Oh no, it's going to be, I'm like, well, you can have it, but it might be too huge on you. It looks good, but it's good. It's like oversized. It looks nice on you. It is oversized. I'm just like wide. Well, me too. No, you're not. Are you serious? You're not.

I'm so wide and it's fine. No, really? I don't think so. Your legs are great. You have the best legs. I think, I'm glad it's like, I don't know how to have something go for me. Yeah. I got some loose legs. I would say, should they do a full body cam on you? No, I would die. I die sometimes when I see myself. I always think I look so cute. And like, wait, is there a pillow? Wait, this is so weird. Okay. Either I've gotten bigger or this chair has gotten smaller. Right? Because I used to be able to like sit back and there was so much space here. You do. Your legs are just crossed. That's the only reason. But I,

I feel like at the beginning I was like tiny in this chair. It's just your memory of it. But I think sitting like this is hard. You have to have both your legs up. But when you sit sideways, suddenly you feel like how wide it is. I don't know. We need to make these wider for season two. When we sell it for $50 million to Spotify, we're going to get a bigger set, bigger chairs. Yes. We're going to do, if we sell it for $50 million to Spotify, we're going to get like an audience row. We're going to get like three audience rows. Oh my God. Yeah. We can invite some audience in. I mean, we have my house, but I mean, whatever. We'll get the same audience all the time. So.

Because I want like rows of audience chairs. It would be cute. I don't know. We need to get a wide shot so people can see what's happening in here. Because people always think you're in a little booth. I had a guest sign that's like, oh, is he in a booth? And I was like, no. It's like we're like so close to each other. I know. Maybe like here or something or here. I don't know. There needs to be like up there. We need like a wide. Actually, someone came and they thought they were fake cameras. Oh, they thought it was a fake microphone. He's like, is this just a prop? And I was like, no. He's coming up. Bless his heart. We talked about it in his interview. He's like, well, you're always like swinging it like this.

He thought there was like a boom. I love people's perception. I was like, don't use it like that. I was like, okay. I love people's perception of things. And then he's like, oh, you guys have like cameras. I was like, yeah. I think what he doesn't get is how professional you are. You know, when you're not using it, you move it away. I know I'm loud. Yeah. Call me Mariah Carey with the high notes. I used to practice all the time in my room. I would always pretend I was like singing. And then when the big notes would go, I was like. Me too.

Me too. Did you? Me too. Oh, he's falling in a wave. Yes. It's very Jessica Simpson. Oh, definitely Jessica Simpson. Which you are serving Jessica today. Yeah. I feel like a little Jennifer Coolidge. I feel a little cool mom vibes. I feel, I don't know what the vibes were. Oh, you were giving me like Holly Madison, Jessica Simpson vibes. Oh my God. That's what I thought you were going for. Thank you. I had nothing where I was going for. I just wanted to wear a wig because I've been putting so much heat on my hair. So I was like, let me do a wig today. And then they kind of just went with what they want. And then this was like an outfit I put on and I just wanted to be comfy. I love it. It's like house bunny. This is like very serving. I feel very, yeah. I

It's very Y2K vibes. It's cute. Thank you. You're cute, too. We have a cute vibe. I love that. We'll have to get the Brooke cosplay, if you guys know. Probably San Diego. Like, you said, a tourist shop in San Diego. I think that's where she got it. So if you're in San Diego and can buy those oversized pink. She's probably oversized on her because she's so small. But...

In a good way. I know we're not supposed to comment on people's bodies. So now when I say people are small, I mean that as like the best compliment ever. And I'm just like, oh wait, no, we're not supposed to comment on people's bodies. I love it. She looks so cozy. I'm obsessed with Brooke Corr. I think it's going to be my new aesthetic. I'm Brooke Corr. I'm obsessed with everything Brooke. I love her TikToks. I love where she just like talks to the camera so close. Like I'm really obsessed with her. I'm obsessed with Tanner. Like that's what I'm saying. I wish I could be on like canceled as a third co-host. I'm like, why can't I be on there? Probably because I'm too old.

I would not relate to anything, but I really love them. I know. It's crazy because I feel the same. Like, I love them, but I'm like, how do y'all live like this? Like, they always have stories. They always have so much going on. And I'm just like, I can't imagine. Tana's in, like, Hawaii and just, like, yeah, everybody. All of them. They're just doing – they went to Vegas on a private jet. I was just like, wow, this is – I've never been on – I mean, we've been on, like, two private jets. I didn't pay for them. Someone paid for them and stuff. And I was just like –

It's so extra. And I love it. Like I have extra. They just, to be young and like rich and beautiful. Like I never could ever. Yeah, I know. But I'm like, I'm just thankful. Like I like, I don't think it's an experience I could live. I think I like observing it and like hearing about it. But for me, it's just like my personality is just like,

I just am more introverted. Yeah. And, like, I like being home. So I don't know if I could – Oh, same. I think Brooke's more like that from what I've gathered from these two girls. It seems like she's, like, introverted, likes to be at home. She has, like, a fancy, like, penthouse apartment and stuff. And I think Tana seems to be, like, the wild and crazy. I love her. That's the thing. That's why they do so well. I think they're our it girls. I think, like, last podcast, I was like, who's our it girl? And I think they're our it girls at the moment. Yeah. I love it. We should do it. Okay.

Our, like, member exclusive is, like, a canceled, like, after show. Yeah. I love that. We just react to canceled. I understand.

We just watched them. Yeah, guys, we're going to be doing a very special – we're just going to announce it. Well, in December, we're going to start. We're working towards that, yeah. Yeah, Oscar brought it up, which I want to – I've always wanted to do this, but it's like just more work in general. And I was just like, okay, yes. And you've been so busy, so I was just like so excited. I think it's like it feels right. The flow is right. So we're going to offer some membership perks. The headshots I've been teasing, monthly headshots for you guys. I'm so excited. I'll do new photos every season and we'll see you next time.

And we'll send it. There's the headshot right there. The promo. I'll have it signed. I'll have it signed. Um,

And they'll be really, they won't be stamped. It'll be an actual authenticated. He'll take video of me signing. I love when people do that at bookstores when they're like signing all their books. And they go just like. That'll be me. I love it. Whenever people come to our house, they see the stack of headshots. I'm like, can I have, like people, Zach's crew, like we always get, Tana's crew, like we always give much to people. Like have a headshot. We almost like have a gift shop. They always get water bottles, headshots. Oh my God. And sometimes some random, you know. Our guest this week was so obsessed with our, oh my gosh, you got the water bottle.

so legit when people are like impressed by everything we have here. I was like, thank you. Yes. I've never, I've never seen custom water bottles like this in my eight years of working in TV. No AT? No. Really? Yeah. Okay. It's very like 2000s. Like when I worked on sets and stuff like that, like deal or no deal, they'd always have these and even for extras. And I'd always keep the water bottles. Playboy Mansion always had them. Yeah. I guess it's kind of like an old school thing, but

Yeah, we probably should do like a little storefront. There's like a little office when you walk in. We should make like a little Just Trish storefront because we have like cups. We need a Just Trish pen. Oh, right. Well, we can give those out too. Pens are usually free.

We'll do headshots. When we have like the VIP guests, we'll make a little – everyone's a VIP guest. But like we'll have the hoodies when we have them. They're coming. They're coming, you guys. But anyways, it's so fun. I love doing this podcast. It's so much fun. Me too. I think like sky is the limit. I really do. I feel like TV show, bigger podcast, audience, stores. Literally, I'm always gagging when like people actually watch it because literally I just feel like we do it for fun most of the time. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, people actually like enjoy watching it. I'm truly – whenever we check the numbers, I'm always like, oh, my gosh, $400,000.

400,000 people. That hasn't happened. I literally tell Moses. We just got 400,000 subscribers. 400,000 subscribers. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. And we get like, but think about this. We get like 400,000 subscribers and we get like half a million views on each video. Like it's actually insane. That means like each subscriber is watching. It's like unheard of anymore. I have 5 million on my main channel and get like, that channel's been doing better too, but you know, I'll get like 50,000 or something. So it's like, it's actually insane. And I know people always say it's not about the views, which is not because I've been making videos for the past two years and no one was watching, but I'm like,

It does get exciting when people watch. And I haven't had these numbers literally since like I told Moses like 2015 and stuff like that. So it's really cool. And you don't know why because I'm like, wait, I feel like I've done this before. I've been doing this. You know, I share my opinions. But I think it's just the flow when something feels right. People like it. It's the right time. My vibe. Editing. Good set design. We elevated. Because I'm like, I've been doing this for years and no one cares. But give me a microphone, a good set, and an editor. Sky's the limit. And that's what I've been missing this whole time. Who knew? Yeah.

So it's really cool. I love doing it. And it is crazy to see like people watching and like numbers. You're just like, wow, that's so cool. It's wild. Or people clip stuff and they think it's funny. And I'm like, oh. Yeah, we talk about it. Like we'll say like the most random things get clipped. And I'm like, that's so funny how people are like, she's so funny. And I was like, anyways, just us gassing ourselves up. I know. That was our intro. That was our intro.

Sorry, trapped in today's. That's right. We haven't even had it. Anyways, we have like cool membership stuff. We have merch coming too. It probably won't be here in time for Christmas because they sent us a weird email, our manufacturer, and they're just like,

I don't know. Not to get into the politics of it, but it's something like, oh, this is like not good conditions. We had to switch to a different – I don't know. It was this whole thing. We're not She-an. How do you pronounce She-an? I would say She-an, but some people say Sheen. I think you're right. I think it's She-an. She-an. She-an. She-an is still going strong. I see influencers have their Christmas parties for She-an and stuff like that. Oh, that's wild. Yeah. I'm a Fashion Nova girlie, so I don't know. I don't know anything about Fashion Nova. We won't be at the factory. We won't.

That was wild. I want that girl. The one that came to the- The confidence activist was her, Dani. Yes. I love her. I want her too. I would love her on. I wonder if she would talk about it. Because I think so much time has passed now where I feel like she can comfortably talk about it. Yeah. And I hope she knows that she's camp. She is camp. Sometimes I feel bad because I feel like people don't know or get the vibes. But maybe at the time, I'm sure it probably was really overwhelming. But now looking back, it's one of those things where it's like, it's camp. It's a meme. We love. We celebrate. So I think she's sweet.

I think it's like, yeah, there's no like malice intent by it. And I think it is a lot like, you know, we saw and they probably did. They probably saw these like really beautiful conditions and stuff. So it's like, yeah, they're not journalists. You know what I mean? They're not investigative reporters. Although maybe that's what they came across as or something. That was a wild scandal. Were we doing this when that happened? No, we definitely, we would have been all over that. Okay, okay. Because I was like, wait, this is like a whole thing. We go back. That was like a month before that.

We talk about this story again. Yeah. Oh, my God. What a wild ride it's been. We started in the summer right before Barbie. Yeah. That's crazy. The week before Barbie, I think. Yeah. How far have we become? It's crazy. Time goes by so fast. The fact that it's literally November. Like Thanksgiving. Wild. Speaking of dream guests, because we were talking about the Grammy noms and dream guests, I have a new dream guest. This is not even a hot topic. Well, it's kind of a hot topic, but not really. Do you know who Matthew Lillard is? Yes. Oh, my God.

Okay, wait, I'm dead. Wait, why did you get so excited? Because I have been down a five nights at Freddy's hole, and I saw that you left. I did not expect you to be a FNAF girl. I'm a FNAF girl. I was going to do my little chica. Is it chica? Yeah, and cupcake.

going to do my little cosplay and it's kind of pink. I should have done it today. I didn't have a yellow wig and I was like, I really want to do this like yellow wig moment. I wanted to make it good, but I'm like, oh, it's like relevant now. I should have done it today. I almost did, but I didn't think you would know. I didn't think you would be into FNAF because I love- Wait, were you a FNAF

I'm a fresh fan of it.

Did you see the movie? Yes. Okay. I knew like a little bit about like, I've just heard of FNAF. I love calling it FNAF too. I feel very in the know. It's very, yeah, it's very that. I've like known about the game and stuff just because I feel like it was so popular on YouTube. So I've known about it, but I've never like played it, never like looked into it. I knew it was kind of Chuck E. Cheese vibes. That's all I knew. Yeah. But for some reason I was so excited for the movie. I'm like, the second that comes out, I need to see it. When did it come out? Because I thought it just came out. On Halloween. Oh, it came out.

Halloween. Yeah. I thought it just came out. Like we saw it and I was like, oh, we're just seeing it now. I'm like, it came out on Halloween time. I was like, okay. Oh my God, I didn't know. Okay, so I, first of all, I didn't know it was a video game. No.

Apparently, like, I thought it was kind of recent, but I think it was, like, around 2010 or something. It's been a long time. Because it looks old. It's supposed to look like... The 80s. Yeah. But it's not from the 80s. No. It's, like, 2010s, around there. 2011, 2012. Okay, so the video game, is the video game the same plot line as the story? Yeah. The movie? Yeah. First of all, all I knew about it was TikTok. Like, during 2020, I just remember, like, hey, kids, nice to eat ya. You're like, that one. You know? And I loved it. My daughter loves it, too, every time I sing it. And I'm like, who's this? We're doing this show. I don't know, but I don't think I like it. He's so cute.

so cute. I always do it and Malibu goes nuts for it. But I didn't know it was a video game. So are they singing that song in the video game? Is that what that's from? I'm assuming. They must be doing it in the video game. Okay. Anyway, so I knew about it from that but I had no idea because even the people on TikTok were not dressing as the FNAF character. So I was just like, oh, they're just like, it's like a scary song or something. But I got so hooked from the movie and I, Matthew Lillard all the way. I'm just like,

This is why I love him. He's so good. Well, we won't... We don't get spoilers yet or no? I think it's been a while. And it's like, if you know the game, you know it. So... Oh, really? We'll just say spoiler alert. Okay, spoiler alert. Skip it like a minute. Matthew Lillard being a baddie again. I was like, oh my God, this is all of it. I knew it. I knew the second I saw him on the screen, I'm like, oh, he's going to be the evil one. Oh, you did? Because I'm like, why else would you cast him and like make scream references, you know? So I was like... Oh, was there scream references? Yeah. Wait, which one? I don't know.

I'm so bad with these things. Well, he did it. It was like, I've been with the knife at the end. He like, the way that he did it was the same way he did it in Scream. Are you a Scream fan? Light. I watch it, but I'm also scared of it. So like, I like, I half watch, I guess. Are you scared of Scream? I'm scared of a lot of things. I'm not scared of Scream. It's more camp, so I'm not super afraid. I just, when it gets very, very stabby, I like, I'm not good with like gore. I'm the same way. Yeah. But you're okay with FNAF? It's like so cute. It's like, it's hard to like hate it. It's cute. It's funny. Yeah. Yeah. Like just the like,

okay spoiler anyways let's skip ahead 10 minutes but like when they put the little like cupcake in the thing and they like look up to the monitor yeah and then the guy's like ah and a little cupcake just it's just so everything about it is cute i mean the story is like okay i did not know going into it what it was i didn't know it was like kids i was like oh my god this is so like it is like heartbreaking and it's like so sad it's not based on real story okay my sister she said did you hear

my sister say it was based on a real story at Chuck E. Cheese and I was like if this happened at Chuck E. Cheese Chuck E. Cheese would be closed down in that case then Spider-Man is a real story too no she said it was

She said it was actually based on like Chuck E. Cheese like someone. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. I don't think so. I mean I'm – I watched a lot of like – after I saw the movie, I was like I need to learn everything. So I watched a lot of like lore videos and I didn't hear that it was based on – I mean I definitely could be wrong but I don't think so. I feel like we'd have more bad vibes about Chuck E. Cheese if that was the case. That's true. But Chuck E. Cheese is getting rid of all the animatronics as of like this weekend. The last one – there's only one left and it's in Northridge. Are you serious? Yeah. They just did like a grand reopening and that's the last place because they had animatronics. They're taking all the animatronics down and they're going to replace it on screen. Because of FNAF?

It might be. It just was announced this weekend that they're all going away in like a couple weeks, all the animatronics. Oh my God. But we go to Chuck E. Cheese and like the animatronics only go on when there's a birthday party. Yeah. But I guess they're going to just do screens now or something and they're all going to go away. Yeah. Wow, that's kind of sad. Maybe because of that. Because it is a little terrifying when you think about it, like the way these kids are in there and the way they die. It's just like – and then you look at the – because if you look at the Chuck E. Cheese ones, they are silent. They're like in the dark silent. Yeah.

And then this happens and I'm just like, oh, I don't know. And they also were – I guess it is Chuck E. Cheese based. I guess Chuck E. Cheese could probably see them. I don't think – it's like – They can't because it's different. Yeah. And there was like another – there was like a similar-ish movie that was based on FNAF with like Nicolas Cage. I think it was like Wally's World or something. Oh. So I feel like if – I never saw. That one was just like a more violent FNAF.

Yeah, this one's not too bad. Yeah. The kid stuff was kind of great. I didn't know about that going into it either. I was like, oh, that's kind of like – I don't like kid stuff. But it's kind of camp the way that they do it. And kids really like the series. And behind the scenes, they were like – I always try to find photos of them behind the scenes like smiling with the things. But I was telling Moses because I always think about this, which is like Malibu or child actors in general. I'm just like, okay, those are actual actors having to –

like, reenact these scenes, you know, whatever. And I'm just like, well, they're still children. Like, are they traumatized? Because it's like, yes, it's acting, but you have to, like, feel some type of emotion. You have to, like, get that out of you. And it's like, where are they getting this trauma? Is it traumatizing them? Like, you know what I mean? Just in general, I know, like, Dakota Fanning in, like, Hide and Seek, she, like...

Talked about how it was like – because that's so graphic too and she ends up being this like murderous person and stuff like that. And it's just like does that affect them as the child? That's a good question. I feel like they must like behind the scenes do a lot of like – Therapy? Or like just making the set really light like in like fun. Because even like I think Hunger Games like when Amanda Senberg, she was like I think like 12 years old or something. She would like do a death scene. But her and Jennifer Lawrence – like Jennifer Lawrence made it so like fun on set. So it kind of like –

balance the trauma, you know? So I think, I feel like that must be the vibe. Like they even it out. I don't think I would let my daughter do like a horror movie. I don't think I'd let her do Friday Night at Freddy's. You know what I mean? Cause it's just like, I don't know.

It's just a lot. It's just – I don't know. Regardless, I feel like it's kind of traumatizing. Or like Lovely Bones, you know, that movie. It's just like – That one's really scary. Yeah. And so – and that Stanley too. It's like I would not want my daughter in that situation. I don't know. And I get it. It's acting and it's like a great opportunity. I just – I wouldn't. I kind of – I think that would be the same. It's like – Yeah. But I'm also like very sensitive. So to me, it would be too unsettling to me I think to even like imagine that situation being a reality I think. I know I would.

No, I was always scared. We would play like Nancy Drew in our basement where all the lights would be turned off and we'd like go down these stairs and we'd just have our flashlights looking for things and then my brother would jump out and scare us. And like that would terrify me. Just like knowing my brother's down there and was like acting or whatever. I still would be like so – like my heart would – I don't know. I think it's like traumatizing. I was always really affected by movies as a kid. Like with It, like my brothers would scare me with It. They would say like they would put like red food dye in the bathtub or the sink to make me think that It was coming. Oh my –

That's wild. That's scary. It's another one, yeah. Anaconda, too. They always tell me that an anaconda. When I would go swimming, they would say an anaconda is going to come out of the pool. Oh, my God. Were they older? Yeah, they're like eight years older. Two brothers. I have four. Four older brothers. And you're the fifth? Yeah. No sisters? No sisters. Only brothers. We always see this on TikTok. I'm like, what a nightmare. It's wild. What's your mom? Was your mom trying it for a girl? I don't know.

don't know. I think she was fine with boys. Yeah. I feel like she was trying. I feel like every time we see TikTok, they're like, we're trying for a girl and it just never happens. They're half brothers. So two of my dad's side, two of my mom's side. Okay. Are you the only one with your parents? Okay. Interesting. Okay. So they were like, okay. They just wanted a baby. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Interesting. Yeah. And I'm gay. So I guess that helped. Kind of. It kind of worked there. Yeah. I always wondered that. I was like, how'd you know? It's like,

You see it on TikTok. You'll see people get mad at the gender reveal. They'll have five daughters, and the next one will be pink, and they're like, oh. They get disappointed. Oh, no. Yeah, I just saw Kaylin from Teen Mom. She's expecting twins. She has five kids now, and she's expecting two twins. She has five boys and these two twins. And their initial gender reveal was two boys, but I think now that was a joke. I think now it's a boy and a girl, so I think she'll get a girl. And she wanted a girl? Yeah. Oh, that's cute. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I feel like everyone says they want, I don't know. But-

Five boys. We watch Home Improvement and it has three boys. It's like, we should have like a drinking game or bingo. Like every time I mentioned Home Improvement or like Moses' bolognese. We should have a bingo card. Yeah. Bingo cards better. And then,

every time I watch Home Improvement, I'm just like, oh my God, like the boys on the show annoy me. And they're supposed to be like these picture perfect, like, well, I guess not. I guess they're supposed to be boys, but I'm like, oh boy, I don't know. Not that I'm like against having like little boys, but it just sounds like a lot, especially five. Yeah. Because they do stuff like that. They tell you it's coming for you. That's what I'm saying.

That's so mean. Did your parents ever say anything? I don't know. I don't think so. You didn't tattle? No. Wow. Yeah, I built character, I guess. I built trauma and character. That's trauma. That's trauma. Yeah. I do look at clowns a little suspiciously from now on. It's a little suspicious.

scary. I don't really mind that movie either because to me, that one to me is the most ridiculous one. I'm like, okay, there's no killer clown on the loose. Well, there was. Remember the whole killer clown era? Was that in Europe or something? No, it was in the Midwest. What? Yeah. Were they killing people or just scaring people? Maybe just scaring. Okay.

I kind of remember that. No, but then there was that one, like, what's his name? Oh, John Wayne Gacy. Yeah. Okay, well, take it all back. I mean, that Midwest is just effed up. That's why I left. I don't know. Yeah, Midwest, weird stuff happens. People always get scared of, like, big cities like New York and L.A., which is, like, yeah, a lot of stuff happens here that, like, goes whatever. But it's, like, the small towns that are always, like. Like, for now.

FNAF takes place in Missouri, I think, or something. Oh, my gosh. It's crazy. But Matthew Lillard is my dream guest. I actually have so many TikToks where people have to – I know people always say I look like celebrities, but seriously, Matthew Lillard. I got all the time. I have TikToks of me, like, transforming into his face. Like, when Scream came out, I was, like, 10 years old. And everyone –

Everyone at school called me, was he Stu or something like that? I don't know. Everyone called me this and I was just like, oh my God. And they all thought I looked like a boy. So they're all like, you look like Matthew Lillard. But if you look at Matthew Lillard young, like I kind of do look like him. And he's been my doppelganger. But I loved him in every early 2000s movie. I loved whatever it takes. I love She's All That. I love Scooby Doo. Well, no. No.

Not Scooby-Doo. I love Scooby-Doo. I was just saying, you do? Yeah, the live action. Oh, no. I don't like Scooby-Doo, period. I don't like the cartoon. I don't like the costumes. I don't like the live action. I think all the characters are, like, annoying. None of them are cute. None of them are fun. Shaggy might be the worst. I'm just like, no, all of them. Belma, not cute. Like. I love Josh Hutcherson. Like, I feel like that was. He's from Hunger Games, right? Yes. Yeah, he's.

on the fence. He was great in this movie, but I don't know. He's a cutie. Yeah. Something about him is very charming to me. He was great in this movie. Yeah. Is he British in real life or no? No, he's American. Yeah. Why did I think he was British? In Hunger Games, is he British? No. Wait, really?

Someone British in that. Liam Hemsworth. He's Australian in real life, Liam Hemsworth, but he's American in the movie. The whole movie is about America. It's like, it takes place in Appalachia or whatever. Wait, what? Is Appalachia in America? Yes. Where is that? Where is Appalachia? It's like near North Carolina. The Hunger Games takes place in the Appalachian Mountains. Yeah. And like that area.

Are you sure? It's very Americana. Yeah. Okay. Love that. It's very Brokeback because I think that's in the Appalachian Mountains too. They're all in the same universe. Did you notice the YouTube cameos in FNAF? Oh my – okay. Well, no. I read about it though. One of the gamers. Is it like Dream or XQC or one of them? Matt Pat. Oh, Matt Pat. Why does everyone talk about him? Everyone's like, oh, I love Matt Pat. Do you know who he is now? Because I think our first episode you said, I have no idea who Matt Pat is. No. No.

I did read an article of like, no, who is he and why did he get in this movie? Because I guess he did a lot of like videos explaining the lore of FNAF as the game was coming out. He manifested it. So he had like a lot of contribution to why it like became bigger. Oh, man. That's manifestation goals. It's like doing all those videos hoping you get noticed and then boom, you get noticed. That was in the movie like 10 years later. Oh, it was 10 years ago. So he really committed. Oh, my gosh. I saw.

that okay people love Matt Pat I always see him I don't know people are like I love Matt Pat I'm like okay well I thought of it too because he released FNAF merch not to plug his merch but he actually released like girly pastel like why did you tweet me back when I asked where's the pastel I was waiting that's my other thing too sometimes like I have to save stuff like I'm sacrificing for my art because it's like I want to like text I see something I want to send or text you and I'm like I have to wait till till Monday I get the same way I get the same way when you texted me last night oh no

We don't have it. The sexiest man alive. Where's that issue? We have to go get that. I mean, that's like a whole different thing. But anyways, who else was in it? Who else was in it? Oh, Corey X Kenshin. Who was he? He was the taxi driver. He was like. Oh. And the Freddy came out and was like, oh, I get all the weirdos or whatever. Oh, that's a good one. And then Mark. You know Markiplier? Yeah.

He was supposed to be the security guard in the opening scene, but he was filming another movie, so he couldn't. Okay. Booked and busy. How was he filming? His own movie, I guess. Wait, what? Yeah, he has his own. Markiplier is huge. Markiplier is so huge, and I don't even know what he does. He does gaming, and he's hot. So I guess it's like the combination of both. That's... Okay, the gaming thing is wild to me. Like, it's crazy. So people are just watching people play video games? Yeah. It's not wild, and it makes so much money. Oh my... What...

You love video games. You have your pink setup. No, I shouldn't. Oh my God. But I don't play like cool games though. Do you play FNAF now?

No, I'm scared. Maybe I should play FNAF, but it's also, I don't know. I feel like I'd be afraid of all the little jump scares. I feel like it's scarier in video games. Yeah, totally. I've seen it where it's like the lights are like that. I think so too. And the scary sounds. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Coming in. Coming in hot. We have a couple magazines. But yeah, I want Matthew Lillard on so bad. He just seems so cool. Yeah. You know what I mean? He should have been on Sexiest Man Alive, I think. Okay. Like on the list. What a transition was that? What a transition.

We love it. Okay. I'm shook. We went out and bought this for research purposes. I'm so glad you posted it. Yeah. Because. Did you buy it? No, I didn't buy it. Growing up, my mom would always buy Sexies Man Live and we were like, oh my God, they're so hot. Really? We just like Google all the people. How many?

How mean? Patrick Dempsey, I think out of the recent Sexiest Man Alive, I think he's deserving of the title. He is definitely – he's hot. I think he's gotten hotter with age. And I feel like maybe when he was younger on like Grey's Anatomy, I feel like – I don't remember exactly, but I remember there was some like drama with him on Grey's Anatomy. But I feel like now he's kind of like gone past all the drama and he's very just like settled. But I do have some tea. On him? On Sexiest Man Alive, on who it was supposed to be. Oh my god. I love that you know all this.

Wait, what? Allegedly through sourcing. It was supposed to be Pedro Pascal, but he turned it down. Wait, what? Allegedly. Why? Because the strike. I think he's in here. What? Because they have to do a whole interview for Sexiest Man Alive. And with the strike, he didn't want to promote any of his past projects or whatever. So he turned it down this year. What an ally to the union. Patrick Dempsey's like, I will. I'll talk about Grey's Anatomy. Isn't he in Thanksgiving? He is, which is so... Hang on.

My little flex. My friend Jeff wrote the movie. And I remember when they were casting it earlier, they literally shot the movie and cast it like this year because I remember it was happening in March. And I was like, why am I not being close to Canada for this movie to be in it? But he was saying, oh, we can only hire like three American actors. That's what he told me. I don't know. Maybe this is – I think it's real. My friend doesn't lie to me. He basically had to hire all Canadian actors for, I don't know, tax or – I'm not sure. Something. So they can only hire like a few American people. And of course one of them being the goddess Addison Rae. And then one was Patrick Dempsey. I'm like, you're really going to pick Patrick Dempsey over me? Like –

Like, I'm happy to come. Like, whatever. So, yeah, he is in the movie. Because Grey's Anatomy, I'm not even being mean because he is gorge. But Grey's Anatomy was like 20 years ago, right? The timing feels weird. A lot of people were like, shouldn't this have been like 10 years ago? A lot of people were like, didn't he also have it already? Even for me, I was like, I assumed that he was Sexiest Man Alive at some point. I don't think he was. I looked up. He never was. No, he had like a little blurb, like, you know, in like the list.

Right. That would include a whole bunch of people. But yeah, he was never the. Usually it's like a relevancy thing. You know, someone who's James Bond or someone comes up. Has something to promote. Yeah. Ryan Gosling just got nominated for a Grammy nom. You know, it's like he, this was his year as Ken. Ryan Gosling's never been sexiest man alive. I think he has. No. Really? No, I think he's only been, because I looked, I looked, we.

We looked it up, I think. And you can fact check it for me, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't. Because there was a whole list of people. And I was just like, it was like Johnny Depp. It was like this random people. I didn't see him on there. Ryan Gosling must have turned me down. No, because he's in this too. Yeah, but when you're on the cover, you have to agree to interview and photo shoots and stuff. So Patrick Dempsey is the only person who went across the board.

picket line. I think because he had an interim agreement because he had an indie movie coming out. So maybe he was the only one who could do it. I heard Pedro Pascal was the first choice. That makes sense because people live for him. It's such a big year so it does make sense for Pedro. Pedro Pascal.

Well, there's a whole – I'm trying to find the whole section here. Then there was like Sexiest Grandpa. Did you see that? Yeah. Okay. So here's my problem with Sexiest Man Alive. Yes. Let's talk about it. Okay. So this may be controversial, but okay. They have like all these – they have the Sexiest Man Alive, the cover star. Right. And then they have lists that just has – they give like random like honorary awards. And then they also have a sexy at every age, which they go like from 20 onwards and they name like a sexy person –

who's 20 a sexy person is 21 and I'm like at some point we need to dial it back where is it I know I find it somewhere it's like literally they just go like list ages and they list someone who's 20 years old and I feel like they're just googling celebrities who are 20 and just picking a guy like here you go here's your favorite like Landon Barker I think is the 20 year old that's the sexiest 20 year old I also feel like we shouldn't be doing sexiest 20 year old me too I was like it's not a little like I think of Landon

like a child, not in a bad way. He's just such a young kid. Like, why are we calling him sexiest? It's odd. It's odd to me. I do love that sexiest man is like older and like in general, I think they had like Idris Elba. They had like, you know, usually like older men that like look good. Like Shelton. Oof.

Ooh. Was he? Yes. It's so random. I think if you're a cheater, you shouldn't get to be on the cover. The integrity of Sexiest Man Alive, I think, is definitely in jeopardy. Because I feel like there needs to be some exclusivity. We can't list every single man in Hollywood and put them in this issue because then it's like, well, then what does it all mean? What are we doing this for? If you have sex, you have every age, literally. I think it's like 20 to 80, I think. Wait, I need to find that.

to find that. I need to see that. You need to find the little section in there. It's wild. I just saw Sexiest Grandpa runner up with Al Roker. If Al Roker is making sex even, no shade, he's a handsome man, but like really everybody's in this article at this point. Literally. So it's like we need to gatekeep a little bit to have the list have some like meaning, some exclusivity. It's kind of like the Oscars. If you nominate every movie that's come out as best picture, then it's like, what does it mean? Yeah, what does it mean? I love that the success star is Jalen. I first

person might know Monet McMichael's boyfriend I love him he like hypes her up so much I love Monet I want her on the podcast too um the runner ups are Josh Richards so random um

I mean, again, Josh Richards to me is like boy. Like he's a little boy. And again, not a condescending way, but it's like we shouldn't be calling him sexy. Not yet. I need to know – I need to speak to the People's Sexiest Man Alive committee. I know it's just like some writers like, oh, what about this person? Oh, yeah, put him in. I feel like it's very that. Yeah, that's – But we need to like put some honor back on the Sexiest Man Alive issue because it's just – Yeah. Literally, look at all those people. Like that's so many people. It is – no, the whole magazine is just men –

like a little bit like where's the sexiest woman you know what i mean i guess they used to one magazine was it maxim maybe what some max magazine that's out of issue yes that's it's like we need a reputable thing like people magazine or something also the photos in there they're not like you know glorified it's not like they're half naked it's literally regular photos eating pizza like that puts me as sexiest i should be the sexiest woman alive right here um he looks good there though he does look good it's interesting i need to

age thing do you know if it's in the back oh no there it is here we go oh my god wait what the sexiest jack why do they have jack in the box do you think this is real why is jack must be sponsored wait you think they paid for it of course no that shows up this can't be real there's an interview with jack from jack in the box i don't know what it has to be a commercial oh it does say advertisement you're right it says advertisement at the top

I want him on the show. The integrity of people. I'm telling you, it's in jeopardy. Like we need to do something about this. It is in jeopardy. People need to be riled up. Oh my God. Yeah. They're starting with 20 years old. People, come on. Yeah.

Let's start with 25, just like the role we do with women. Let's start. Number 25 years old is Prayag Mishra. Oh, he's a TikToker. Oh, is he the one that says Pookie? Yes, it's Pookie. Okay. I did not know his name, but I always see him and I'm always like, who is this person? He is definitely good. Wow. Good for him getting on here. Um, but they also give him like the littlest, everyone gets the littlest pictures. It's like, you can barely see these people. I'm just like, who are these? Okay. Um,

I honestly don't know. Who's Lewis Cabaldi? He's this random singer. I think I want to say Tana has something with him or knows him or something. She knows everybody. She probably knows everybody on this list in the best way possible because I think it's such a flex. She's always like knows all these famous people and hot guys. I'm like, God, I wish this was me in my 20s. A lot of these people I don't know, which is crazy. I felt like John Michael Murray is 42 years old. Where's the 80-year-old?

Who is the last? What's the oldest age there? Oh, here. It's flipped. Okay. Because I was like, wait. Oh, Michael Bolton. He was just on Zach saying, I love Michael Bolton. I used to travel everywhere to see him. Like literally, like after my last breakup, like three or four years. No, like longer than that. Four years ago. I would travel everywhere to see Michael Bolton. I went to New Jersey. I don't know. I just thought we were going to date.

How old is he? He's 70. Okay, weird. Do you know Michael Walton? I do, yeah. From what? What do you know him from? Just as a singer, right? Doesn't he sing? I don't know any of his work. I'm such a gatekeeper. Give me one song. I'm not even claiming to be a stan. I've heard the man's name a few times. Well, you know why? Because the new generation knows him from... Do you remember Lonely Island? Yeah. He did that song like, This is the tale of Captain Jack Sparrow. Wait, you don't know this song? The only song I know is I'm on a boat. Is that Lonely Island? Yeah, it's like the same...

Wait, but the Jack Sparrow song is so big and Michael Pollan. Do you know it? I have to hear like. Wait, what?

How big was it? It's huge. It has a billion views. What number was it on the Hot 100? It was probably number one. It was so big. We'll have to hear it. I just sang it for you. This is the tale of Captain Jack Sparrow. It's from the movie? Yeah, well that's the whole song. Him is just obsessed with being a movie file and he just says, oh my god. Everyone just go watch it. But let's not put it in. We don't need copyright. Ten seconds of this.

No, but I always think, oh, man, that's what people know him from, whatever. But he's also on Lip Sync Battle. He lip synced to Gangster's Paradise. He's like, been there. Michael Bolton? Yeah. Anyways, but he's also done the theme song for Hercules. So you want him to burn the title of sexiest man, sexiest seven-year-old. He should have been sexiest man alive. I mean, if we're just going with whoever, willy-nilly here. Nathan Lane. Okay, this is the most random list. John Linguisiamo? Like, where's...

The guy who played Mario or Luigi in the original Mario Brothers? That's very random. You know why they do it? Because then they increase the sales of the magazine. Because each one of these persons has 10 people in their family that can buy it. And that wants that little headshot. Yeah.

Yeah, that's true. Like a really big Kenny Chesney fan. We'll get at least another thousand people that will buy this magazine now because of that list. You know what? There was only one left when we went. We went to Barnes & Noble too. Really? Where they had like all the magazines and there was only one left. So. I guess it worked. Who do you think is the sexiest in here? God, I don't know. I feel like I'm bad with like celebrity. I don't think anyone is like hot, hot. Wait, really? Yeah. I think celebrities are hot. I don't think real people are hot. I think like celebrity people are hot. I don't, I feel like, I don't know. Who would you pick as the sexiest man alive? The Weeknd. The Weeknd.

Oh, my God. We just had a discussion because we were watching The Golden Bachelor. And we have to get to a hot topic soon. But anyway, I guess it's a hot topic. We were watching The Golden Bachelor. And I'm like, this is so sad. Like, everyone found the love of their lives. And the love of their lives dies. So they have to start over again. I'm like, God, if I'm, like, 70, I don't know if I have it in me to, like, start over. And I was like, well, Gerard Way. I'm like, no, Gerard Way is your age. Like, he's going to – he'll also be dead. Like, who am I going to find? And everyone, like, Naveen Andrews is, like, 60 right now. He's also going to probably be dead by the time, you know. So I was like, oh, no one. And then he's, like, The Weeknd. I was like –

Absolutely. The weekend is three years or four years younger than me. That is fun. When I'm 75, he'll be 72 and it'll work out that way. But anyways, I'm glad that you made that suggestion. Moses doesn't get jealous at all. He's so funny. I'm like, you better never remarry when I die. I'm like, cause you know, Anna Nicole's baby daddy, her daughter's father, never remarried, never dated anyone. Oh yeah. He's like, just all about Danny Lane. All about her. And I was like, can you please be that? One of those people who just like wants you to stay single forever. I'll be jealous in my grave. Yeah.

But I don't know. I guess it doesn't matter if I'm dead. No, but I agree. A parent should stay with the kids. But you think I'm going to remarry. You're like, no, you can't be alone. You'll remarry. Or you'll just hire somebody. I think I'd rather hire. I don't know. It is a weird thing. I mean, Malibu will be grown when I'm in my 70s. She'll be 40. So if I'm married to the weekend, it's fine.

I don't know. It's like kind of sad, but Patrick Dempsey is definitely daddy for sure. He is. He's handsome. Look, I'm saving you editing. No B-roll. Thank you. This is how I do on my like. Oh my God, we should. And they just hold up a photo of every story we talk about. I think that's so much easier. That's like Wendy. They have like a screen behind her and they just put up photos. One day we'll get there. So we'll just have to edit. Oh, what a wild thing. I,

I'm here for it. I like that they do this. I think it's fun. I think it is funny though. Like you can't really do this with women because it'd be like objectifying. Yeah. And also, I don't know. I like that they do it of a certain age, but I think Ryan Gosling should have had it. But like you said, maybe because of the strike or something. I think Pedro would have been saved. Maybe next year will be Pedro. He'll agree to it, but he's in here as man of the year. Yeah. So they probably like, well, we can't get an interview with him, but just put him somewhere. Yeah, man. Oh, Lenny Kravitz looks good. Oh, Tim. Well, we can transition to Timothy Chalamet right there. Oh, Jacob

Yeah, he made it. He's cute. Lenny Kravitz is awesome. He looks good. Yeah. Maybe he could date my mom. He probably would date like 20-year-olds or something like that. I don't know. Timothee Chalamet, all over. I have something with Iggy Azalea, but I was like, maybe SNL is more relevant than that. I don't know. Iggy was kind of coming from kind of hard. I was like, okay, girl. Really? For what? She like went off. I actually don't know. Oh, no. Azalea Banks. Oh. Is that what you're talking about? No.

Those names do sound similar, though. Okay. I was like, Iggy? I-G-G-Y? A long time ago, Iggy Azalea, people reached out to me to do a mukbang with her, and then I never heard back again. Oh, my God. And I was like, oh, man, that would be great. She was in the YouTube era for a little bit. Azalea Banks kind of went off on him, and I was just like... On Timothy or Troy?

Troy Sivan. Yes. But Timothy was Troy. Yes. Yes. I see. And now Troy's picture is Timothy as him. Yes. It's all like, it's very circular. So SNL be wilding with all their guests lately. Yeah. SNL actually. I was waiting for this. Actually. Oh my God. I.

I was annoyed before I started seeing other people. But even before Kate Hudson, Brittany's manager – not Kate Hudson. Kate Hudson. Every time I say Kate Hudson, people are like – anyways. Kate Hudson. Even before he put out a statement, I was going to say something, but I was like, you know what? Maybe not. Some people can be flattered, I guess, when SNL parodies them or whatever. But like the memoir sketch –

I was like, so first of all, it was the worst impressions I've ever seen ever. And I love impressions. I love impressions. I'm someone who watched America's Got Talent just for the people who do impressions. Like I think impressions are so impressive. I think they're so good. There's a guy on TikTok that does Howard Stern. Like there's so many people do really amazing impressions and I love it. And this was like, first of all, the impressions were like so flat and so boring and basic and like what? Like they're doing Alice and Jenny. They're doing like Neil deGrasse Tyson or I'm like, what? Okay. Random. Um, but.

But also it's like Brittany's memoir. And Brittany is like, which first of all, they asked her to host and Kate Hudson has confirmed that they've asked her to host and she says no or whatever like that. But also it's like Brittany has been an SNL staple. Brittany has been super vulnerable about this book. Like she really, it's a really beautiful book. If you see how it's written, it's really like poetic the way she talks about like her family. So like it's very, it's a very beautifully written book. And it's also a time in her life where it was just like, it's very serious topics. She talks about abortion. She talks about all these things like that. Her, you know, her parents being awful and stuff like that. And it's like for SNL to parody that, I think it's like such bad

bad taste. I was so annoyed. I was just like, because some of the excerpts they read weren't even excerpts from the book. There was some that weren't even in there. And then the ones that they choose to read with the celebrities they chose to read them, I was like, I don't know, like the Julia Fox one talking about the first time when she had sex with Justin or whatever. I was just like, I don't know. It just felt very poor taste. I was just like, the whole thing was ick. I don't know who wrote the sketch. I thought the impressions were, I don't know. I just thought it was really...

Because it's like someone's like serious like memoir that's like – it's Brittany who's obviously been in a fragile state and we don't know how she is now. And she put out this book and she's really vulnerable and she's getting a lot of like feedback and like – I don't know. To like make light of it. It kind of gives everyone like a pass to like Justin and all that stuff. It's like to – I don't know. I just didn't like it. I didn't like it either. I mean I don't think I'm an SNL girly to begin with because everything I see I don't think is that funny. But –

I like SNL usually. I don't know. I mean, I guess it's hit or miss for me, but it almost seemed like they were making fun of the extras. Not in a like, oh, Brittany's in on a joke kind of way, like laughing at Brittany. Yeah, like she's talking about her first time having sex with someone and they're just like had the Julia Fox character saying it. So I was like,

It was just so, like, why? Especially because in the book, Brittany's talked about how she always felt, like, very self-conscious when, like, VMAs or, like, award shows would make jokes about her. Yes. So why would you, like, pile on and do that? It just seemed very, like, counter of what the culture is. Like, the culture is very, like, pro-Brittany, supporting Brittany, finding a woman that's speaking about her story, and then it's like, oh, we're actually gonna make

fun of her. Yeah. Everyone's saying Chloe Fineman is like a fan of Britney and she liked it. I was like, okay, so you want to do that and you want to do that horrible impression of her if you're a fan of her. You know what I mean? It's just like, I don't know. I

I thought the whole thing was bad. Like you said, she wasn't in on the joke. You know, like, Timothée Chalamet was there. So, like, the person playing Timothée Chalamet, like, okay, like, he's in on the joke or whatever. But it's like, she's not there. She's not approving this. They asked her to be in it. And, I mean, Kate, her manager, like, went off. So, you knew there was, like, something even more, I feel like, behind the scenes. Like, they tried to get Britney or, like, they said no. They were, like, bitter or something. So, then, like, oh, we can't. Right. Yeah. Because she said no. So, they're like, okay, well, now we're going to, like, make fun of her and stuff like that. I was just like, okay, this person who's talked about, like, mental health issues and all the stuff, the struggles she's been through, conservatorship and, you know. I was just like, I don't know.

I don't like it. I didn't like it at all. I thought it was... And I actually am an Acid Alpars. I think they are, like, silly and dumb, but I actually think they're, like, funny. Like, I love the Bad Bunny one with Pedro Pascal. Like, I loved all of that. Some might... I think they're hit or miss for me. Yeah. Because I'll see some and, like, and some I'll be like, like, okay, this also might be an unpopular opinion, but the Troye Sivan Timmy C one, I didn't really get it. Same. I didn't get it. Like, they look like...

each other. So, okay. But I didn't get it either. I thought Timmy was cute doing his little dance, but I didn't get like the whole plot. I feel like Bo and Yang or something like it was like, it was very gay coded. Right, right. Yeah. I feel like, no, no, no. Like the gays are going to love it. And the gays are like, Stan Twitter's like really loving it. Oh, they are? Troye Sivan is loving it. But I think people just like, cause Troye loves Timothy. So I think that like, you know, the back and forth between Timmy and Troye and like Boy Genius, who we also in it. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like full circle. I think that they like that whole thing. But the actual skit itself, I didn't really get. I was like, what? I didn't either. And maybe... I don't feel like I'm a Troy fan these days. So I was kind of like, oh, I don't know. I don't know what this is, but... She was sick. And in her sickness, she was...

delusions of choice of all? All the choice. I don't know. I really don't. I'm like, am I just old? But also, I'm like, would the mainstream audience also have any... If I don't know what's going on and I'm like chronically online, would a random person in the Midwest who's watching... I have the same thing. I have the same thing.

It was very weird. It was very weird. And yeah, I don't know. Poor Troy. I think he could have done like, I get him being excited about it. Cause I'd be excited too. If someone had me like, I'd be like, yeah, that'd be so cool. You know what I mean? But, um, yeah, it always does suck then. Then when they kind of miss it, it's like, oh man, you had an opportunity to do something great. And Timothy is a little, you know, you see those videos of Timothy back in the day and it was like in high school and why you doing his dancing. Yeah. So I feel like to me was also like, he was kind of laughing as he was doing it, but he could have hit it a little bit harder. I think. Yeah, I agree. I,

yeah. I know he has a move, so like he could have ate, but he was like. Well, I guess he was trying to do the little Troy movements, which I, I love the outfit, I love the pants. I was like, ooh, could I cosplay this? I was like, probably not. Like, it probably would not look the same, but I liked it. I liked that Boy Genius did it too. I liked that they were, I would love to dress as Troy Sivan for SNL, so. You should, that would be a cute cosplay. If he comes on, maybe I'll cosplay him. We can talk about the idol. We'll dangle that carrot above Troy. Troy, if you want to. Cosplay as you if you come on this show. I feel like he wouldn't like me, but I feel

I love him so. I love him the car. I love Troy too. I mean, he has fatties in his videos now in the back somewhere. One. So we're all good now, Troy. Maybe he'll put us in the video. Maybe we can be sitcoms. I would love that. Would you be in your underwear in a music video? The representation.

I don't know. I'd have to be paid a lot, I think. Wait, pale? Paid a lot. Oh, really? I would do it for free. I don't know. You would? Really? And just underwear? Yeah. I'd be in skims with like a little tank and undies. Yeah. You should model for a skim. I would love, yeah. I would love to model for a skim. That's like the goal. Everyone seems to be modeling for them.

I know. Brittany Mahomes. Some of the Swifties were like upset about that. I'm like, girl. But because she's Taylor's friend, right? Yeah. But I mean, I don't think it's that deep. I don't know. Taylor probably doesn't care. She's in her own world of love. I know. I saw your tweet about Taylor. I'm kind of on board. And it's so crazy because when we first started this podcast, I was like, I don't want to hear about Taylor Swift. But I'm like, I love it for her. Everyone's saying she's going to get engaged. I know. The big, what was the big kiss moment at the end? You were trying to figure out where to throw it. I want to throw it, but I don't know where. It's in front of you.

Remember when Gigi back in the day would like throw her like purses back and like perfumes? I want to be that where I just chaotic and throw stuff. Maybe you had enough room behind you. I love them. I love them. And like, I don't know. I'm not a Swiftie, but like she's never been like public before with like a relationship like this, right? I don't know. Actually, she kind of has been pretty public, but I think it's just been a while. Because even like when she dated Taylor Lautner, speaking of SNL, and she hosted SNL, she like in the monologue, she's singing a little song. She's like, and if you're wondering if I might be dating the werewolf from Twilight. Hi, Taylor. Taylor.

So I think she's just kind of reverting back to like her typical self. I think she gets like very invested in like theatrical and her relationships. But I think this time Travis is as like goofy and into it. So it's like cuter. He's like cheesing in all the songs. They were comparing him to who's the one before him. There was one person that was like, so like, Oh yeah. Everyone's like, look at Joe compared to Travis, like bouncing and blowing kisses. I mean, he probably,

he probably knows he's being filmed, but, you know, everyone's, like, filming him. And Travis has always said the girl that he dates, he wants her to be really successful and, like, he wants to be proud of, like, what his girlfriend does. So I think that's also very... I'm very, like...

I'm trying to be less parasocial, but I had to put my parasocial cap back on. It was really cute. It was so cute. It was cute. All the videos, every angle. I was giggling. I was kicking my feet. I'm like, this is adorable. Her being excited, her changing the lyrics, and the kiss was so cute. It's just like with those movies, and you just root for it so much, and you're just like, okay, this is kind of cute. Although I will say, I'm also very cautious because it's a lot. Every time they do anything, it's all...

It's all over the media. It's all over Twitter. It's all over everywhere. So I'm like, I also don't want it to be too much because people will get sick of it. Too much too fast. Yeah. Yeah.

It'll be like anything, you know, because everyone gets excited. Like Pete Davidson and Kim, you know, they get excited. True. And then I think it'll like calm, you know. I think they'll get engaged, right? I can't wait because once they get engaged, we have literally the video footage of us saying Travis should date Taylor. Oh my God. Yes. We started it here. We started it at Just Trash. Maybe Taylor watches like, oh, they're right. I should give them a call. You never know. I think so. Sometimes I think everybody would talk about watches. Right? Right.

you like somewhere at least you the clip you know yeah I see people with like 12 views on TikTok like talking about me so I'm like I assume like other people would just see I don't know I would think Taylor would know this one I've never felt like okay this is gonna be the one for her but Travis I do I do get that they look so cute together they're so cute together oh my god their babies would be so beautiful and she's like older you know she's like 34 right 34 so it's like that age where you're like wanting to get married I feel like

for every female, for the most part, like it's like that age is like the age you're like, okay, because it's like later on in life now, which is cool. It's like everyone wants to get married a little later, have babies a little later. And it's kind of like for females, it's like this like biological thing that's like, okay, well the kids are kind of like, not now or never, but kind of now or never if you're going to have them, you know, yourself. It's just, yeah, the timing, it all seems very, I don't know, like everything is like working out

for them. It's just like, a lot of people are in the business though. So I'm also like, I'm very, I get kind of like you, I'm a little gatekeepy. I'm less than last, but sometimes I'm like, I see, especially with like, I don't want to say his name. I will say, sorry, Scotty. Scotty Cyrus, who's like, oh my God. He loves this podcast. We talk about him every time. Scotty tweeted like, OMG, do you know what this means for her? She never talks about anyone. And I'm like, okay. Every like, random people just like cloud chasing at this point for a Tavis. Wait, what did they say?

Scotty, like, quotes you to the kiss video. I couldn't tell if it was satirical or, like, genuine. What kiss video? The Taylor and Travis kissing. Oh, okay. He quotes you to this, like, do you know what this means? Taylor's always private. She never kisses, blah, blah, blah. Like, really gassing it up. Wait. What? You don't like that he's a fan or what? Because it's, like, engagement farming at this point. All of a sudden, everyone, like, has, like, an opinion or, like, wants to be in on, like... And I put in the blood, sweat, and tears.

for this. You know what I mean? Like I really put in the hard work. Like I was there when no one was, I was on the front lines. I took several bullets for Taylor. Like I, I put in the work and then all of a sudden there's a lot of people just like jumping in on it. The random podcast. I'd never talk about Taylor. All of a sudden have something to say. They love it. I'm like, I think maybe just men, men, men all of a sudden chime in. I think that's where I get a little triggered. It's more like they're doing it for you. Yeah.

I'm 100% with you on things that I like. Like the Elvis movie was that for me. I was just like, oh man, all these people are going to like Elvis. Yeah, where were you? In 2010, I was doing Elvis hauls on YouTube. What were you doing? I was at Graceland in 2007, okay? Like, you know, and then it's like everyone gets on the bandwagon and everyone loves Elvis and I'm like, oh my God, everyone's going to name their baby Elvis. But then it's like this movie comes out now and everyone's like covering their Elvis shirts and stuff like in the theater. I'm like, oh,

oh my gosh, okay. It's hard, yeah. Yeah, and because sometimes they will turn. Like Taylor, this will probably end up good for her, but you know, like the snake era, as you told me, right? Everyone will turn against her. So it's just like, yeah, when you're there with them through it all. And I get it because it is so massive. Like I'm seeing it where I'm like, I never saw this stuff before. And you're just like, and it's everywhere. That kiss was everywhere. And then you're just like, okay. But he was gassing her up.

It's like, you can kind of tell when someone's just like engagement farming. I love that term, engagement farming. I don't know if it's around or if I just coined it, but I'm sure I picked it up from somewhere. Oh my God, trademark. Trademark engagement farming. We consume so much meat that it's hard to know what's an original thought. I always think that too. I was like, wait, did we start this? Sometimes it is. Sometimes I'm like, wait, maybe I did start this. You know? Yeah, I never know either because you just hear so much everything and like that, but

I like that Taylor is like having a moment. I – okay. When you said Travis though, did he say in an interview before he met Taylor he wants someone successful? Yeah, before when he was talking about what he's looking for in a girl. Okay. Which is fine. But I – Mr. Beast. Did you see the Mr. Beast test about his girlfriend? Oh. That kind of came from me on Twitter and I was like, wait, what? I am not in the wrong here because they're like, if this was a girl. I'm like, no, if this was a girl, it would be weird too. Like what are you talking about? Like him talking about the requirements he had for his like girlfriend and she checked all the boxes and like this and this. It's just like –

so weird to me and I get having like a standard but even like not to bash on Travis because we love Travis Kelsey but it's just like is your standard like when you look for someone the first thing is like you want them to be successful like that's a weird thing to say right like yeah maybe just like doing something they love I don't know successful is weird or like I want to be proud of them it's like well if you love someone you're proud of them no matter what they do you know what I mean like when I met Moses I mean I was like the water photography whatever but literally the other day we're just admiring his water art and I was like this is actually really cool and then I was like interested I was like how did you film it like were you doing it like they

then you like fall in love and then you are proud of what they do. Even if that's not like what you, when I met him, I wasn't like, wow, this is so cool. I was like, this is weird, but you fall in love with someone and then you become proud. It's not like, what is he waiting for Taylor Swift where she's selling out like 70,000 seat theaters and you're just like, okay, yeah, now I'm proud of this. I don't know. It's good. It's weird. And the Mr. Beast thing was weird too. I was just like all his like little requirements for his girlfriend. I was like, this is kind of odd. I don't know. I don't, I don't know. For me, I don't think you should have like boxes to check and stuff like that. Like have what you like. That's fine. Oh,

things out loud. Sometimes I think you don't need to like say I want a skinny six-ass. Well, just like, you know, keep that in your head, you know? I don't know. Guys are weird. Guys are weird when they say stuff like this, especially like straight men. Like when straight men say stuff like this, I'm just like, do you hear what you're saying? Like you sound so chauvinistic. Like, I don't know. Just keep that to yourself. I think it's different when it's someone who's like very like...

I don't mean it in a bad way, but, like, Jimmy is just very, like, kind of, like, guy next door. Like, kind of, like, an average guy, you know? That's it. So it's, like, okay. Average guy is having all these boxes and what they fill or not. And I get, like, having a good, you know, standard and, like, not settling and stuff. But I came across, like, oh, almost, like, entitled people.

Totally. Totally. Like, well, they don't have this and they're not good enough for me. And I was just like, yeah. And that's not falling in love with someone then. That's like, you know, do you mean all my boxes? It's like, I don't know. Even like Kim Kardashian and like her show, she'll like, she has this list in her notes app of all like the traits or whatever. Even that I'm like, okay, girl, like let's reel it back in. So it's not just like, not even just a guy thing. Also, like you said, like for girls. Yeah. We all need to take a page out of Ariana Grande's book and just go with

Follow your heart. Whatever the heart feels. Yeah. She'd be following it. They were at a show last night, I think. They were leaving a theater. Arm in arm. Yeah. They're full on going. They're full on going. At least it wasn't for nothing, you know? Maybe she's going to have a baby. A little wicked baby. Yeah.

What a wild ride that has been. I know. It just started. When we started the podcast, really, it was our first story. It's wild, all that happens, and then it's kind of like people almost don't care anymore. I mean, they show them and stuff like that, but it's almost like, okay, real quick for a quick break. King Kong Magazine. This is my cover. It finally came. This is the biggest magazine I've ever seen in my life. I'm on the cover. I'm on the back. I'm obsessed with all your quotes that are in it. They love it.

They literally only asked me like four questions and then they're like, here's four quotes. I was like, okay. Did you type it out? I did. I don't think they even changed how I typed. They're like, we're just going to put it right in there. It was a lot about... I guess it's an Americana issue. It was a lot about being America. And I didn't know what to say. I was just like, I'm fat and I don't know. I like to be an American. I love America because we have Target and we have pride. After I said I hated rainbows. I love the pride though. Yeah, I love...

all countries have pride. And that is one thing that I love that we have. I love that we have a lot of pride and I love that we have a lot of gays here in America. I think that's what makes it great. Not everywhere can you just be gay, you know what I mean? Let's see. And I love it. I love the gays. Anyways, it's there. My cover is sold out. Oh, no! I went to order more and it's completely gone. No! Yeah. Because I was like,

pretty cool it's pretty neat and so i was gonna order more and maybe i'll give one away on our new members only thing for christmas yeah because i have five but i'm hoarding all of them so maybe i'll give one away anyways that's so huge here at thunk it's like the biggest way ever we have so many hot topics and we haven't got to any of them okay we've covered a little bit have we okay we got matthew lillard was all i needed to cover today that was all my notes

Oh. Yes. Okay, we need to talk about this. Did you hear what the new Met Gala theme is for this year? Sleeping beautifies beauty. We are awakening fashion. Yes. Sleeping beauties. Okay, so hearing that theme, what would you wear? Oh, my Princess Aurora dress. Me and Holly are going dressed in our pink Disney costumes from buycostumes.com. I love that. That's

That's what I thought of right away. It was Sleeping Beauty. The one I thought of before actually reading what it's about was, you know the little sleepy bear that's on the tees? He's like a little sleepy bear in a nightgown. No. What? What are you talking about? You drink tea. You know a bear sleeping? Yeah. There's like tea that you drink to help you fall asleep. But there's an actual bear on there? It's a little cartoon bear. He's like in a rocking chair. He's sleeping in a nightgown. Oh.

Weird. So I would wear, but I was going to wear like a nightgown like that, like the little sleeping bear is wearing. And he has like those little sleepy hats with like the little. Oh, the old school like Scrooge. But mine would be like, it turned into a train. So it would go like 30 feet long. And then there's like the avant-garde. Oh, because the stairs, you would have to do a train moment. The dramatic like sleeping. And I do a lot of sleepy poses like.

That would be cute. Would you go with the tea? Yeah, a little teacup maybe. Yeah, a little teacup. I think that'd be cute. You should get sponsored by that brand and then just carry the box on the Met Gala. They should just send you there. Yeah, they should buy a table. One year they should do a bears theme and you could go as that bear. I'll go as the Charmin bear. I love the toilet paper bear. Why do they always put bears as advertisements? That's so random. Why are bears? Yeah, bears are like the mascot for everything. I don't know. That's kind of weird. That is random. Maybe it's subliminally to the gays.

To the ones that like the bears. That's what it is. Bears and cubs, yeah. Yeah, that's what it's for. Okay, we see you. You're not Slick Charmin and Sleepy T or whatever the T is.

No, but Sleeping Beauty, I guess, is like re-wrapping fashion. Some of them are saying it's shading or inspired by Kim's Marilyn. Yeah, so basically it's about almost like paying homage to iconic looks. In the museum itself, we're going to have all these pieces of fashion that are historical and too sensitive to ever be out. So pulling from the archives, whatever. But it is interesting because last year, Kim had the Marilyn Monroe dress, which she literally took...

a gown that was very like sensitive and fragile and brought to the Met Gala. So now. So are they going to do that or they're going to do replicas? A lot of people do replicas. Okay. Cause I'm like, everyone was so mad about the Maryland thing. So why would they do that as the whole theme? Yeah. I just want every year to be camp. Like I feel like that's fun. Yeah. But the year they did camp, no one was camp. No one was camp. But now I feel like if they did camp, people would be more camp. Don't you think? Cause now people know. I'll show up as Addison Rae reading a book, reading Britney's book. Yeah.

No, I love, I totally think camp would be like the way to go. Cause everyone is that now you can have Danny with Sheehan just wearing a Sheehan bag. Oh my God. You know, buy a table and send her there. Yeah. They should do like memes. Maybe. They really should. Like James Charles went that year at the camp here. I think he just had a little like sheer metal top, but I don't think people understand him. I don't,

I understand camp. I just know people say I'm camp. So I'm like, okay, all the time people say I'm camp. You would just wear a Trish core and then you would be camp. Yeah. I'd come with the just Trish set. Like, I don't know. I don't know what camp is. But I saw one dress that they said could be an option for the Met Gala. It looked like a Hunger Games dress. It was like the butterfly one. Did you see that? Oh, yes, yes, yes. What is that from? Do you know? Do you know anything about it? Oh, I don't know where the original. Oh, you're not. Okay. Because everyone's like, this is one. I'm like, that looks like the one that, like, what's her name? Effie wears. You know, the butterfly. The orange butterfly.

Butterfly. You know what I'm talking about? When she pulls the names out of the bowl. I've never seen it. I just see like clips of it here and there. But I was like, I wonder if Lenny Kravitz is in the new one. No, because it's a prequel. But maybe they'll pay homage to Lenny Kravitz. Oh, it's like happens before. Well, I love this. I love the idea of it because I love the idea of like cosplaying. So people are like taking an outfit that was really popular and like wearing it again. RT, yeah. You know, I love the theme. I think it's a good theme. I want to go.

Do you think the invites are sent out? I don't think so yet because it's still, it's next May. So we have plenty of time. Seven months to plan. You should have a look, Justin Keyes. Oh God, what would I be? What is it? It's reimagining fashion. What's like an iconic fashion moment? What could I be? I'm sure I have one in my head. I would wear The Weeknd with his bandages. Is that reawakening? I would say so. I mean, it could be like a mummy. No, babe, that's not The Weeknd. No, the bandages, but then the whole body like.

Because it's kind of like... What is that fashion? We're waking up in fashion. We actually reawake a mummy. Babe, I thought you'd have a better idea. You're so good. You know fashion. You know art. My idea was a big blanket, like a jacket that's actually like this puffy white blanket and a pillow head. But what is that reimagining? You have to reimagine... That's my idea of a sleeping beauty. Okay, got it.

Okay. We got to pick something that once was fashion. Someone wore once and we got to wear it. Like what would be an outfit someone wore? Like what would you wear? Like I'm trying to think of like iconic fashion moments. I would do your Celebrity Big Brother entrance look. I would recreate that. I can go to camp. I can go to camp.

Okay, I'll do that. Sorry if my brother is coming back, actually. I'm ready to be on that. In the US, in the UK, put me back in. They said some people have gone back in for a second time. I would love to do that. Would you ever do House of Villains with the show that Tiffany Pollard did? No. I think you are considered. It seems easy, though, because they still have their phones and it's down the street. They film in like

in the Valley. Oh, love that. Yeah. Uh, yeah. The golden bachelor filmed here. Literally, literally two minutes. There's a pickleball court, like two minutes from us. I was like, I know where that is. That's so funny. They actually stay here too in this. And our town is small town and they stay like in our town. It's so weird. Um,

No, I wouldn't do it because one, I'm not a villain, but two, I, they're just so like New York is like cutthroat and I get it. It's like a character and she probably doesn't mean the stuff she says, but I would like cry if she said that stuff to me. And I love New York. We're friends. I feel because we've DM before, but in general, like Omarosa, like some of those New York is fun, bad.

vibes, but then there's some just bad, bad vibes, like the Omarosas. Then there's some people that you're just like, oh, why are you here? Like Johnny Fairplay. Again, no knocking it because they're probably getting paid. Honestly, yes, I would do it. I would do anything. Yeah, okay. Unless

Let me not be a hater because I was like, no, never. Is this more like anything that's a pretense of like bad girls club where we have to fight or like Real Housewives? Like immediately I would say no, but then I was like, oh, I probably would because you just want that clout. You know what I mean? So I guess if I have to fight with Erika Jayne over, I would love to be on Real Housewives because I'd be like, I would look like a big obese cow compared to those people. No, because they

so much weight. Like they're even skinnier. So like could you imagine in person they're probably like literally like I mean a stick. I mean haircut Jane is like I mean it's crazy how much skinnier she get. But it's like then you see someone and I'm like I'm heavier than most people. So it's like you see a normal person next to them they would look huge but then you see me next to them I would look like gigantic. No you would not. I would like to see the size comparison. You have both body dysmorphia I think. That dog. You said sometimes you feel skinny but I think you also think you're bigger. I do feel yeah both.

Because sometimes I'm like, oh. Yeah, you're talking about you in the chair. I'm like. This is. I really am at the edge of the chair. I was like, wait. I feel like I was so like pushing back here before. I'm like at the edge of it. We got to get bigger seats for next season. It's a while.

But only my chair, the guests can stay the same. So that way it looks like. Oh my God. Yeah. No, both. Sometimes I do feel really skinny. I don't know. I'm into my fat era right now, which is fine. It's the winter time. Well, that kind of reminds me there. Did you see this thing with Jason Kelsey? He went to like this restaurant in Chicago and I guess I didn't know this, but I guess it's a restaurant where you go to get roasted. It's like a wiener place, like a hot dog.

And they put the billboard outside, like, welcome Taylor Swift's boyfriend's brother. And he goes to order his hot dog and they literally just like are making, they're calling him fat, making fun of how thick his neck is. What? And I was like, oh, that's when I was reading, I was like, that's so rude. But then all the comments are like, you don't know, like, this is what you do. You don't go to this restaurant unless you want to get bullied. I forget. It's like Wiener World or something.

There's another one called like Ed DeBevics and like, yeah, Chicago is known for that. They have like restaurants where they like insult people. We used to go there. People would go there all the time. Like people I knew, like friends, stuff like that. And I would like literally never go inside because they like literally insult you. That's all they do. That is wild. Yeah. No, that's crazy. No, I hate those. There's a couple of restaurants like that. Wiener Circle is what it was called in Chicago. I've been there. I've been there with David. The vlog squad would go there. Did they insult you? Yeah.

They were nice to me, actually, which I was like, yeah, but they insulted literally everyone else. And it was like so – yeah, they were actually really nice to me. It's crazy. But there's a lot of restaurants like that where they do that. There's another one. I think it's called Ed Bebex, and I think they do the same thing. They just like totally just say you're fat and disgusting and stuff. I would – I'm going to lie to myself. I think I would cry and throw up. People love it. That sounds like the worst thing in the world. Yeah, I've been to that Wiener Circle one. It's almost –

It's not even like a restaurant. It's almost like you stand and order. It's like this. Like a Pink's Hot Dogs or something. Yeah, literally like that. A little stand. It's very weird. Yeah, we went and I was just like, no, that's so weird. But yeah. What was it? They were saying this stuff to him where it was like. Yeah, he was. I thought. I didn't know it was like the thing because I was like offended for him. I was like, oh my God, that's so mean. Why would you call him fat? Oh my God. Then I realized you'd go there to get insulted. But then I was like, that sounds like my worst nightmare in the absolute world. Oh, awful.

If I went to Chili's and I was like, oh, I'm going to get the 3 for 1 or whatever, and they're like, okay, fatty. I was literally like... I think Chili's is their condition. You only have Emily Blunt there. You don't have to worry. Otherwise, I think people know you go there to be a fatty. There's no other reason to go to Chili's other than like...

I'm kind of over Chili's though, honestly, because I ate there like so many times in one week. Yeah. I was just kind of like, oh. We talked about that already. But there's certain things where you're just like, okay, I'm kind of like overeating there and stuff like that. Domino's too. I have a wig because I didn't want to put heat on my hair. But I also have a wig because I have like this ginormous – I have two. I have like huge pimples that I never get and it's every time I eat Domino's. And I think it's just me because like other people, my mom will eat Domino's like most of the time and they don't get –

breakouts, but I get huge pimples every time I eat Domino's and I'm like, and I love it. I almost wanted it tonight. Every time you post it, it makes me want it so, you really need to be, like at least a referral. I don't think Domino's is going to sponsor me after I decide to give me acne, but I ate it like two weeks in a row and it was honestly so good. I missed it.

But I had so much acne back then when I used to eat it like three times a week and it's like, it's coming back. And I was like, oh my gosh, I never had acne. But yeah, we always, I had a peanut butter sandwich literally minutes before I came down. I had a peanut butter sandwich. I had a toast. I had, I had so much and I still get so hungry for our things. I don't know. We need like a mukbang. How do you not get hungry? Uh,

I think when I'm like doing something, I don't really get hungry. Oh my God. But when I have downtime, I get hungry. You're one of those people. Yeah. And oh my God, I did not get approved for Ozempic. So I was, it's all very. Wait, did you go? I went to my doctor and I was like, um, so what's the deal with Ozempic? And she was like, hmm, maybe diet exercise for a year and then you can try it. And I was like, girl. Oh, good for her. Not just prescribing it. No.

I want a willy-nilly. That's wild. No. The more I read into it, because there's a lot of people that could change my life. I love it. And then I got a lot of people being like, no. Yeah, I saw someone like that too. One woman died. Oh, really? Yeah, someone sent it to me before her daughter's wedding or something like that. Yeah, we'll do the diet and exercise for a year. Same, same, same. But I mean, that's the thing. I guess diet. I'm doing a diet. The diet is everything. That's everything. Mine is horrible. And I'm sure if I just ate normal for a week, I'd literally lose 20 pounds. But I've been on a kick. I've been just on a pasta cheese. I don't know.

like not mad at it but I we go for walks although I will be out of breath when we go on walks I'm like oh my god like I was so out of breath the other day but yeah I'm just kind of I don't know I think next year we'll try again 2024 yeah I feel like right now it's just you know fun vibes and that's where we're sticking Lady Gaga singing Wicked

Did you see that? Her classmate. Her former roommate. I literally have that same one up our minds. Oh, my God. I thought we had the same hot topics. Former roommate. Why was she being interviewed? She was on The Bachelor a while ago, and she was on another – you know, everyone in Bachelor Nation has a podcast. So it was one of those. Oh, yeah. So I think it was just a really random podcast. So it's her own podcast she was talking about? No, it was another Bachelor guy. Too many Bachelors. There's too many. They all have podcasts. Some of them I love. Shout out Ashley. I love her. Oh, Nick Vile. Yeah.

Vile files. Yeah. But Lady Gaga went to NYU in like the early 2000s. And I've seen this before where there was a Facebook group that classmates had made that was like, Stephanie Germanotta, you'll never be famous. Oh, yeah. Was that real? Yeah. Okay. Which is wild. I love that. She must have been one of those people. Okay, continue because I have a theory. Okay.

So this girl named Carly Waddle, who was, like I said, formerly on The Bachelor, was on Jason Tartick's podcast. And she said, I was not a fan. Stephanie used to play the piano during lunch and she would sit at the piano every single day and just play and sing Wicked at the top of her lungs. Love that. Very Twitch kind of thing. Yeah.

And we were all just trying to eat lunch. It was break time and we were all forced to listen to her. And yes, was she good? Yes, of course. She was great, but I just wanted to eat my sandwich. And so I used to eat in the hallway because she was driving me crazy. Yeah.

I mean, this is the bad thing about podcasts. It's like, I'm sure that was like a five minute conversation and then it gets like blown up because it's like something you say in passing. Like, I went to Lady Gaga and she used to do this. And maybe, I don't know the tone. Did you listen to it? No, I just read it. I don't know the tone. Maybe she's like, yeah, she would do this. I'm like, oh, I'll listen to this again. Or maybe it was just like, oh, she did this. I mean, it's like, oh, God, listen to this. You don't know the tone of it. So I feel like it's that. But also it's

like I'm such a wicked fan I'm such a theater fan I love people who sing and belt on the top of their lungs but there is nothing more annoying than someone just like singing all the time and I get it especially like lunch you're trying to look on your phone you're trying to do that can you just imagine someone belting especially like Lady Gaga just being like different gravity it's just like wicked songs can be so annoying

I know that feeling. I'd be like, yeah, that's annoying. And it stuck with her, obviously. So I think it's one of these things where it's like Lady Gaga is so famous she does not care what you have to think, whatever that girl's name with Cottle or whatever. But it's just like people take it so out of proportion. Like that's why she's Lady Gaga and you're Lady Gaga's roommate or something like that.

It's like not that big. But Lady Gaga is definitely that person to just be like probably just belting out and singing at the top of her lungs in lunch and stuff like that. Especially when like she was doing the stuff with Tony Bennett. She's like, oh, wow, you know. Oh, she did one where she was singing like Somewhere with a Rainbow to these kids and she was dressed in full Dorothy Garb at like Good Morning America at like 6 a.m. She's like, somewhere. And I love it.

love it I do I look I don't love her but I love that she does it you know what I mean I don't like hate her either but um I love that I was such news and everyone was like so mad about it and I was just like that is like it's just annoying like I love good singers but like when singers are singing all the time it can be like a little annoying and I love to sing but I love that it became a meme a meme where everyone was like me just trying to eat my sandwich and everyone has these crazy tweets it was funny yeah you can literally like imagine like oh like I just see it visually at like reading these quotes totally yeah I can see her doing that no for sure little Stephanie yes

I feel like that girl, she's just trying to do a podcast and have an interesting story. She's like, I have this story. What else am I going to say? Yeah. I get that. I get that. You share so much. Like on a podcast, you just share so much stuff. That's why I always think people that like are doing well should never have a podcast. You know what I mean? You set yourself up. Yeah. You'll always get canceled. There always will be something that you say in three hours that's going to get you like canceled or, you know, because everyone just has something to disagree with and stuff like that. Except our podcast. Everyone agrees with everything we say. Oh, always. I like to flip-flop a lot. So you know what I mean? Like at Netflix,

I like to play both sides. I see both sides. I see the hater side. I see the, you know, I see the Lady Gaga. I'm like, yeah, if I was Lady Gaga too, I'd be like, I don't care. I'm a star. You guys are going to listen to me. And on the other side too, I'd be like, yeah, that's freaking annoying. It depends where you stand. Yeah. Yeah. I see all sides and that's how you stay uncanceled. There was another girl who went to school with Gaga at NYU. She like posted this TikTok and said, she was an amazing student, always so incredibly talented. We knew she was going to blow up. Maybe she was a crazy theater kid, but honestly, who wasn't? She was just very passionate about what she did.

Just a reminder that everyone's stories and perspectives are different.

Definitely. Definitely. Oh my God. You know what? I'm always shocked. Not to make this about me, but I'm always shocked people don't like talk about me from high school. Like I never see, cause I went to high school with talking about me, which is like good, you know, thank God. But I always think like, I mean, I guess I was kind of like nothing, you know what I mean? I wasn't like popular. I wasn't like disliked. I just kind of existed. So I guess there's nothing to really say about me. But I was surprised cause I was, I would just like to know what people did perceive me. I don't know. I was most likely to be famous. That's what I was voted for in high school. So they kind of knew something, but I just, I don't

I don't know. I always wondered how people perceived me. And I'm like, oh, no one's ever talked about me really. I was most unforgettable, which is wild. Oh, you said most forgettable. Oh, no. Oh, forgettable. I don't know if it was kind of a troll though. I guess because like – No, I don't think so. I was kind of like – I was kind of no one the first two years. I was like the weird like Taylor Swift kid. Really? Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. I remember it because I would be like – I like got her CD the first day it came out or whatever. And then I remember bringing it to school and I was like, oh, that's so gay. Blah, blah, blah. Of course. Oh, my God. I think that's why – now it makes sense why I was mad at Scottie Sire. Oh, my God.

You were that person. Was this before the Hilary Duff commercial where you're just like, you shouldn't say that's okay. Yeah, I actually was. That's a girl wearing a shirt as a top or skirt as a top. When you say that's okay, do you really mean what you say? Oh, yeah. Wow. You had the quotes. You had the quotes. But then like kind of like junior, senior year when you kind of get in on the joke, then it's camp, I think. So then I think that's why. You were camp before the camp. Yeah. So then I was like more in on the joke and like, you know. How were you in on it?

Like, what would you do? We had, like, there was, like, this male, like, beauty pageant. I don't know. It was, like, talent, whatever. It was, like, Mr. The name of the school. Okay. And it's, like, always, like, the year before me, like, the hot guy, hot popular jock one. It's always, like, the hot guy wins, whatever. But I went and did it. And it was very trish-coated, actually. Like, I performed a little medley to, like, Kesha. Oh, lip-syncing? No, singing. Wow. Would you sing? Yeah, I did a dance. No.

I think you do. You do that with me sometimes. And it was like a whole, I don't know, I was very camp about it and like making fun of myself almost. And then I won the title. Wow. Who voted? The whole school.

Oh my God. Do you think it was that performance that sealed it? I think so. Cause I was very, and I had like a couple, there was like this, another girl who was made fun of because she used to do before TikTok, like she would do little Facebook videos doing little like TikTok-y dances. Right. And people would make fun of her. She would do like makeup, her own dances, a Kesha and stuff. But I got her to be in my performance and we did the dance everyone made fun of. And I was like, no girl, we are going to take the narrative. You know. Yes. I love that.

It was like reclaiming like the joke, you know? Did you guys have rehearsals? Yes. Did you have your house? No, it was just at the school. Okay. I always loved people coming over to the house and like we would rehearse. We had like lip syncs and stuff and I loved it. We were big on lip syncs at our school. We always did like lip sync competitions. Yeah. I don't know. That's so weird. I went for a lot of costumes. Yeah. I love doing those. Those were so fun. That sounds like a title. Most unforgettable. Yeah. It's not bad. I know what you mean. Now look at us now. I know.

Most famous, most unforgettable. Here we are. No, I know. When I was homecoming queen, everybody before me was like always like a skinny, hot cheerleader. And then like I was voted that. I was like, is this a joke? And then my king was also like, you know, a non-traditional, you know, he's a little heavier and goofy. And so I was like, this is a little weird. I think we were, I think we were voted because like they didn't want a hot, skinny, like popular person to win. So like, we'll put these two.

like liked but like not the diversity higher almost yeah literally when they were ahead of the time with the yeah anyways that was interesting but high school what a time where did that come from what did we just talk about oh my god Carly Waddle Lady Gaga but then you said Taylor Swift you were the weird most unforgettable what is that

Didn't we switch to something else after Lady Gaga? No, we didn't. We stayed on that. Yeah. Speaking of high school musical, wow, the transition. Really? What do we have there? Well, did you see all the stuff with Zac Efron? People making fun of his face and now people are defending him, which is, thank God. That's what happens. They tear you down and people need to try and bring you back up. What happened to it? I mean, it does look so different. Like, he does look very different. Not bad, but just different. So he's actually had like a lot of medical problems over the past few years. So in 2013, he broke his jaw because he slipped on a puddle randomly. A puddle?

Huddle? How do you do that? He slipped on a puddle. That sounds like not real. And he also was getting treatment for substance and alcohol abuse. Oh. So in conjunction, I feel like maybe that kind of makes sense. But then in 2019, he actually contracted a bacterial infection because he had the show where he would go out to like the different countries and stuff. Yeah. So in New Guinea, he contracted a life-threatening bacterial infection when filming the show.

And then in 2021, he actually said that he tore his ACL, dislocated his shoulder, broke his wrist throughout his back and shattered his jaw all in that year. What? Oh my God. He has a really bad luck. Wow. So after all that, like that's why his like face and looking different. Cause he had, he said like at one point his jaw was literally just like hanging. Cause it was like dislocated and broken. Yeah. So that's almost,

sometimes do with like medical use of steroids. You know what I mean? To like help you gain your stuff back. Maybe he had some of that because his face looks...

It just is a completely different shape. I didn't know all that happened. Yeah. Well, that obviously explains it then. You have to get like a whole new face. Gosh. And he was saying that like he knows that looks different. But he said if he actually like read and cared about what everyone had to say, like he wouldn't be able to like be in show business. But – Yeah. It's kind of sad though because like every time he makes like a public appearance or every time he's in a new project, like people bring it up. But he's already like explained it. And at that point, it's kind of like you kind of just have to like let it go and accept that this is what it looks like now. Yeah. That's kind of weird because it's like –

Like as an ET person, you have to go – like they want you to ask those questions, right? They're just like ask about his face but it's also like, oh, like your face to face with someone and that's what you ask him. I don't know. That'd be weird. They asked him about it because laughing last year because it was like his first like big project in a while and he kind of explained. He's like, no, like I almost died. And I think like – I forget who he was co-starring with but his co-star was like making a joke about it, like trying to like lighten the moment. But he was like, no, but I actually almost died.

Yeah. Well, and it is – I mean I never heard about any of this until now. So yeah, something like that's like you literally could die, lose your life, and people are worried about like how you look. Like it is like frustrating, especially if someone is like trying to make light of it. I get that too. It's like, okay, haha. It's like so funny. My face looks different but also like this happened. I'm lucky to be alive. Yeah. People are –

People are – I think he still looks good. I think he looks, like, completely different. But, like, obviously all that happening to him, it's, like, trauma. It's, like – Yeah. Your whole face. He's lucky to have a face. Like, the fact that he did that so many times. Oh, my God. And it kind of makes you feel a little bit – we kind of talked about it last week with, like, Jonathan Taylor Thomas, like, the heartthrob thing. Yeah. Like, when you're glorified when you're younger for how you look and you're, like, the stereotypical hot guy. Like, with Zach, I feel like every role he played after High School Musical, like, he had, like, a shirtless scene where he was just, like – his character was being hot. Yeah.

Baywatch and Link from Hairspray. And Neighbors when he was shirtless. Right, yeah. I feel like that too, you kind of hold yourself to a weird standard where it's like you're known for looking a certain way and then you look different and people have negative takes on it. But that's why it's like you can't – especially stuff that's so sensitive like medical stuff. I know. That's why you shouldn't cut faces. If people's faces change, I mean some people get like nip tucked or whatever. But then some people almost lost their life and they're lucky to have their face cut.

good I know he has a new movie coming out he's like playing a wrestler or something I just saw like a trailer for I think he looks good I think he's a good actor I like him I heard now he would play Matthew Perry in a biopic I guess like he wasn't going to and now he said he would or something like that which is like a random choice kind of weird choice but I kind of love that I mean I know they played each other in 17 again or whatever but it's kind of like I feel like I would pick someone just like wild like Ariana Grande to play me like I like Ariana Grande to be me you know just like

They don't look alike, right? But I'm like, oh, you know, I guess if that's how you see playing you, that's fine. Yeah, I like Zach. He was great. High School Musical was a great time. I miss it so much. I love... Everyone still brings up your bet on it. The bet on it? There's one I saw that had like six million views. That's wild. Oh, my... My one on YouTube doesn't even have that much. It's cool. I'm glad they're getting a resurgence on TikTok. It's very cool to see. The Zach Affron one was great. And I had an injured knee. I had just injured my knee before that. And so I was giving it my all. But it looked like I couldn't dance. And I was like, because I couldn't. But...

That's why I say never comment because you never know what medical things everyone's going through. And people said in the comments real ones know she had a knee injury right before this and I was like period. Period, period, period. I like Zac Efron. I hope he comes out.

I hope he comes on. I think he would be – I like him a lot too. I think he's sweet. Yeah. I think he's – He's gone through a lot. And I think he's talented. Now he's taking serious roles and he's good in them. I like that too. Wasn't there one where he played a dad recently? Yeah. It was a Peacock movie though. I think like Firestarter or something last year. Oh, right. It was the remake. Yeah. I never saw it. Oh, I should watch that one next. I like Peacock. You know we talked about Tubi one episode and Tubi reached out to send a PR package? Shout out Tubi. Wow. What is that package going to include? You think like a t-shirt? Yeah.

I was like, wow. It can't be like a membership because it's free, right? That's what I'm saying. People you don't even know are watching to be watched and they're like, can we send you something? I was like, yes. What else can we start name dropping? Monster High, can you send us? Yes, sure.

Sugar and Spice will be a good Monster High one. Sugar and Spice, come on. I want to be Monster High. Who would I be in Monster High? Oh, you'd be good Laguna. She's like blue. Okay. She's cute. Oh, Moses loves a blue. Anytime I'm blue skinned, he loves it. And she's water. She's the water girl. Oh, you have to be her. Done, done, and done. That's our role play. And she's blonde. Perfect. Yes. Oh my God. I'm so that. Anytime I'm a blue person, he likes it. I've been blue in a couple things like Miss Argentina and he always takes

pictures. He only takes pictures of me when I'm blue. It's so funny. Like the one of us as Beetlejuice when I'm in the green outfit. He's just like, ooh, he's a picture of that. There's another one where I was blue. I don't know. I think, oh, my OF video, my music video. There's a blue man in there. He loves water. I thought, you know what? When I first saw FNAF, I thought it was him. Because it kind of looks like him, right? Josh Hutcherson? Yeah. Do they look like each other? No. Josh Hutcherson is, I guess maybe. It's similar. They have very square jaws. For some reason, I

Wait, this looks like Zac Efron. Josh Hutcherson is like – he's kind of a short king though. I think he's like 5'4". No, not 5'. Is he? Maybe like 5'5", 5'6". Yeah. Oh, wow. He's a little – he's a cutie. I haven't seen him in anything except that. Oh, yeah. And never Hunger Games. Yeah. Next week I'm going to be unbearable. After I see that movie. It's Hunger Games? Unbearable. Yeah. Wait, when does it come out? Friday. Thursday. This Friday. Yeah. So by next Monday, I'm going to have a lot to say. Oh, my gosh. I don't know. I can't.

What was that? Oh, my God. Did you see that? He just did like a weird signal to somebody out there. What was that? It's like subliminal where I didn't know what was happening. I don't know. Maybe we don't know. There's some things in the world. Yeah. Like, wait, what? You've never seen that? You're doing little signals to people like... You've never seen that? No. It's a gift. What did you just do? Do it again. Jennifer Lawrence doesn't... It's an honor of the truth.

that's literally like Girl Scouts. I hope it's not the Illuminati or anything like that. No, that's what I thought. I'm like, who are we signaling? Jennifer Lawrence will know when she sees it. Okay, for real though, I think it's a brownie thing. For real. Like the brownies, the Girl Scouts. Oh, maybe you're right. Like, on my honor, I will try to serve God and my country. Is that the Girl Scout one? And to do things by the Girl Scout law. I think that is something. Maybe they calculate Girl Scouts.

No, it was just a regular Girl Scout. Hey, on my honor, I will try. Yeah, why would we say to serve God? That is weird. I don't know. Anyways, we'd love to see, speaking of high school movies, Mean Girls trailer. Did we talk about this? No, we talked about it the first trailer, but not this new one.

The new one that's extended with still no music in it. So I also had tea on this. Oh my God. Allegedly. Allegedly sourcing. So, because I don't know, everyone was like, where is like the music from the musical? Me, I was definitely that. I was like, this is a musical. Like, give us something. They're trying to market it as not a musical. But that's so dumb. So people are going to go thinking like, oh, it's a new Mean Girls. And then the people who hate musicals, like you are going to be like, oh, it's a musical.

And there's heavy music in the Mean Girls musical. It's all music. Like, it's so weird. It's so... They made that weird pivot. I don't know why. I don't know why. It looks so dull as not a musical. Like, the musical slays, but if it's not a musical, it looks dull. It looks like this weird, cheesy, like, cheap remake. Remake, yeah. It's so odd. And of course, people will compare and be like, oh, this is not... You know, like, because it does look bad, but it's not a musical.

If it's like there's musical numbers and Rene Rapp singing voice and all these like great songs, it's like why would you not? And like the Wicked trailer, the leak of it or whatever. By the way, people clowned me for thinking that the trailer was releasing like tomorrow and everyone's like, no, it's fake. Because someone, they're like pop bands.

Oh, yeah. It's like a parody. Yeah, I know. And anyways, I thought the trailer was coming out for Wicked. But there was a leaked trailer that I saw somewhere. And they had songs in it because it's like – that's what it is. It's a musical. So it's like why would you not – It's very weird. Well, what did your source say? Why did they pivot? I don't know. They specifically said just like in talking about the movie, they can't say it's a musical. This is weird.

Is it not advertised as Mean Girls the musical? It was originally. And then. Is the trailer. Somewhere along the line. Because originally it was supposed to be a Paramount Plus thing. And then it tested well. So it was going to be a theatrical release. And then. So it keeps like. They keep shifting it for some reason. And I don't know why. I really don't know why. Because like you said. I think if they just owned that it was a musical. It would resonate more I think.

Yeah, musicals do well. Like, Mamma Mia does well. Hairspray, like, they kind of do well. So it's kind of a weird thing. And for the people who don't like musicals, it's, like, weird because then they're going to get tricked. They're going to be like, ugh, it's a musical. Everyone was upset with, like, Not Your Mother's Mean Girls or whatever. Yeah. Okay. Offensive, first of all. It's like if Malibu is going to go see Mean Girls. Yeah, that was one. Yeah.

I don't think she's going to be watching this. It's so weird. It's so weird. It's odd. Like, how old do they think we are? I don't know. That is true. Because it's like, you remember Mean Girls. Because you would have to be like 13, I guess. And it's PG-13. Right. And marketing as a teenager. So, what? Yeah. It's weird. I'm like all for it. Because I'm like, I love Mean Girls. I love all the stuff like that. But...

Because people are kind of bashing it. I think people are upset now. And they're just like, wait, what is happening with this? Because now there's not musicals. It's just not explained right, I don't think. And none of the original cast is in it, which is so sad. Unless it's surprise cameos in there. But yeah.

I guess Tina Fey. I guess she looks good. I love Olivia Rodrigo. But yeah, like it was just weird to put her music on the trailer. Yeah. I'd rather hear Renee. She's like the star of Mean Girls the musical, which is like so weird. I know. And then people body shaming Renee, like being like comparing her to Gina. That was so triggering to me because it just reminded me of like the skinny culture in like the early 2000s and like how horrible that was. No, it's so frustrating to see that because she's like –

probably even smaller than average. Renee Rapp is probably like a smaller than average girl, but it's because she's not like the stick, you know, which is like fine. Like, of course, like, um, what's her name? Rachel Maddams look good. You know, that's her body type, whatever. But it's like to compare the two, it's like, it's so, especially now because we're all about not just body positivity because I don't want to look at it as like she's a fat girl or something like that, but it's like, there's so many midsize girls now and it's just like, that should be, that should be the norm. And she's

Like I said, she's probably less than a mid-sized girl. Yeah. So it sucks to see that. And then it's just triggering for everyone that's bigger than Renee Rapp. It's just like, well, geez, if you think she's – Yeah, if you think that's big. Yeah. Then where does all fat cows? And it's like that's – and that is it. I see it all over TikTok just people being – thinking they're fat. That's why everyone's on those epics. That's why everyone's trying to lose weight. And I think Renee Rapp specifically because she talked about how producers when she was like 19 thought she was too big for Regina on Broadway and how triggering that was for her when she was like so small. It's just –

I don't know. It just sucks that people are still – it's like so annoying. Like that's what you're talking about is like the bodies. And I saw that everywhere, like the side-by-sides of them in their outfits and stuff like that. And I was like, I don't know. Whenever you stop talking about it, like, you know, especially because she's not fat. It's like one thing, whatever. It's just like all the plastics look different. There's different – you know, and that's great. That's celebrated. No one says anything about it. But it's like weight is still something people like talk about.

Renee is not even in no, she's not even like plus size. No, we're even near plus. She's literally tiny. And it's so unlike she is, you know, it's like, and it's literally, I think comparing anything to like the,

early 2000s like when literally like so many celebrities had EDs like it was so unhealthy like that whole like literally the fact that we thought that like Jessica Simpson was plus size like I think about that literally all the time like she was supposed to be the face of plus size girls yeah I was cast as fat Jessica Simpson I'm like oh my god when you look back at that you're like oh my god it's just so horrible and I was 175 when I was cast as

I was cast as fat. I wasn't even fat back then. I was like, wow. And I remember going to the audition and seeing girls that were like, I mean, probably bigger than I am now, like 250 and stuff like that. And I was like, wow, like you're casting me to be like, to do the parody, like fat Jessica Simpson. And I was like, one 35 and I look good. I was like, that's wild. It's so like, the time was just so. Yeah. Oh,

Also dangerous. They were taking ephedra. Ephedra would be sold over the counter. Like the trim swap fills used to have it. And ephedra is illegal now because literally people were getting heart attacks for it. But I remember I was taking it at 13. Like they had the wow chips that would give you like leakage and stuff. It's just like crazy. Like those were what we were marketed. And it was like so unhealthy, so dangerous. Slim fast. Oh, like the slim fast diet was drinking two slim fast a day and then having like a sensible dinner at night. And I was doing that. Me too. I was like 15. I was drinking shakes. It's such a messed up thing. And it's like now it's like we're still there, but it's almost like worse. Yeah.

Because it's just like, I don't know. We're ahead of it. We know what is right and wrong. And now it's just like... That's the thing. I guess that's what really irks me with like... Because it's like people who say this also know better. And they also say like, oh, it's offensive if you say this, this, and this. And then they're going back, oh, Renee raps a fatty. It's like, what the hell? I know. It's like so hypocritical. And it's like...

I get like not being educated about something, but it's also at this point, a lot of it's just like plain like hypocrisy and just like ignorance and that like really, it really bothers me. Yeah. And then you'll see her like do this, like she'll probably go lose a bunch of weight and stuff like that. She'll probably think she like needs to or has to or wants to or whatever the case is. And it's just like sad. You see like everyone, everyone just getting skinnier and like Kardashians just skinnier and skinnier and skinnier. And it's like, geez, like when is it like enough? Yeah. Is it ever enough? Like I don't think it's ever enough. Like they just constantly talk about body and it's just, it's why.

It's wild and it makes me sad. And like that's like another thing that I'm just like, oh, like I am so happy in life. So it's like, yeah, like you said, there's like a balance, right? Like you don't want to feel uncomfortable or can't breathe or whatever. You don't like the way you look. But it's like another thing that's like, God, I just want to be like happy just like and not think about my weight. And I normally don't. But then you like hear comments or you hear one thing and it's like, oh, wow, she's gained weight. Oh, she's got bigger. And then it's like,

then you start to think about it but in my head i never think about it unless i hear those comments and it's just like that's why i can't read comments because sometimes i will and i'm just like and for the most part people are really great like especially on this podcast i was like you look so great trisha and they make me feel so good but you know then you see this couple on tiktok and you're just like oh my god what happened she got so big and then you just start thinking about that i'm like i'm i couldn't be happier in life and then i never think about calories like when we're eating dinner and so i don't even think about it and then like those comments come and you're like yeah all right i guess i should eat a salad i guess i should do this and it's just it's so it's

Yeah. I don't know. And I'm over, I'm over Rachel McAdams. She's not in anything. She's not in the Walmart commercial. She took the notebook roll from Britney. She, she just, I don't know. Like, she just kind of, I'm kind of over her. Yeah.

Cancel her. Don't cancel her. Don't cancel her. Did we ever find the happy, the Be Happy snacks? Did you go to Walmart? Oh, no. I forgot about the Be Happy snacks. Okay, maybe I'll go. I need to go. Oh, my God. There's a Dairy Queen, speaking of food, there's a Dairy Queen next door at Walmart and it has cheese curds there. I would love a little Be Happy right now. You know what I mean? We watched the finale of the D'Amelio's because just to see what it's all about, we watched like the last show of the third season. It's wild. It's wild.

But wild as in it's not wild at all. It's like nothing's happening. But that's what's wild about it is I'm like, I kind of love this. Every time we get approached for a reality show, they're like, how many characters and things do you have in your life? They always want like a wide range of people. But it's literally just the D'Amelios. It's like the dad, the mom, and the two daughters. And they really don't do anything. And I say that with like the nicest thing because I'm like, I want this reality show. Dixie never – I didn't see them leave the house and I was like –

But again, watch the finale. So maybe this is like, maybe I'm watching the wrong thing. But she didn't really leave the house and she kind of just like did everything from the house. And I was like, I want this reality show where I never have to leave. Also, I'm confused about like Landon and Charlie. Because I know you said they broke up and they talked about being broken up. But they're also still like always together. I know. I'm confused. Well, I told you like a couple weeks ago I saw Landon being like, okay, stop speculating about the breakup. I think they're just like on and off. I don't know. That's my guess. They're very young though too. They're like...

I don't know. She said she was going to give it a bit of time and then see if she... Oh, yeah. That's what we are in the show. Well, that was the finale. I guess she gave it some time. That was the last episode. Right, right. We're caught up as an audience. Wow, you pay attention. He pays attention so good to things. I'll watch it like mindlessly. Like we're never on our phones watching TV, but sometimes I'm like thinking about other things. But you paid attention. Yeah, they were supposed to go to the prom together and it was both their ideas and she went without him. I think it was his idea.

Oh, right. And she goes, well, we're still going to go without you. Sorry. I feel bad for them. I mean, they deal with a lot. No, I do too. We had a whole discussion about that. I was like, oh, that would be like a lot. Like, you know, everyone just like criticizing. Like, you're so young and you get all these like criticisms. Yeah. Like Charlie, she was saying, she was like, I don't want to just go to college. I didn't really like want all this. And I was just like, oh man, that kind of like, I don't know. Yeah. Even like last week when like I saw a lot of people say like,

Because when you talked about Charlie, like I got picked up and like Trisha didn't even have to apologize. She didn't say anything, which was like nice. But then it's like hating on Charlie. Hating on Charlie to like – just in general. I feel like Charlie has a lot of haters and be like, well, she said it was obnoxious anyway. If she doesn't want to be rich, blah, blah, blah, then go work or whatever. Like quit. Quit.

Right. And it's like, I feel bad because just in general, being that young and having so many people have opinions and then you feel like no matter what you say, it's always going to be kind of annoying. I still am very empathetic towards the D'Amelios, I think, because it is hard. It's hard and a lot of pressure. And obviously, when you make that much money...

And like your whole family is successful. It's like you're not – realistically, you're not going to just quit it to work like a normal job. Totally, yeah. It's like you're just not. And I think she felt that either her or Dixie said they felt – I think it must have been Charlie that she felt a lot of pressure because they have like a whole footwear line, the whole family. So she's like, I feel pressure. Like I need to show up for this. Oh, I think they were. I think they were going to an event. Dixie, I think – she like had like literally a seizure before and showed up. I was like, girl, like you just – she had like a seizure that day and she like showed up to the event. I was like, okay. Maybe it was her that said it. She was like, I just feel pressure. Like I have to be here. And maybe – I don't know which one said it.

And I was like, yeah. Like, could you imagine, like, the success of your family and, you know, all of a sudden it depends on you and you're 18 or 20 or however old they are and stuff. And I'm like, that's –

That's a lot. I mean, again, it's back to the sexiest man alive. I think people under 25, it's just like, they're still somewhat children in the way they're like, you know, they're just discovering how to be an adult and like the world. And I think that's just a lot. And then give them fame and money on top of that. Like it's, it's amazing. So I always think it's like great when people turn out like Tana, when I see her like turning out good, I was like, you know, she could have gone down different paths too. And people do. And it's just like, that's a lot. I don't know. And if you don't have to do the struggle and stuff, which is like good, like you said, it's good. Like on one hand, it's like amazing if they don't, you know, people like

they never worked real jobs. I'm like, well, you wouldn't either if you could, if you could make a hundred million. But yeah, and that's the other sense is like, you don't get that. And I think she was saying that's why she wanted to go to college is to get like that experience, that like life experience, just like kind of normal. I don't know. And it probably will never happen for her because she is so famous. I don't know. It's hard. But yeah, I have empathy. I think just anyone that's young, once you're like over 25 and you're still acting stupid, then I'm just like, okay, but. Yeah. And I feel like with them, with the D'Amelios, I feel like it's at least like well intentioned. And I think they like,

Like you said, without just like that life experience, they can come across like a certain way, you know? That's what it is. And it's just because like they don't know otherwise. You know, they don't have to have that like experience of like really struggling with certain stuff. Like realistic, like that middle class Americans, lower class Americans have to like go through, you know? So they just don't have that like experience. So it can come across kind of like ignorant or like entitled. But I don't think they mean it that way. No. Like the Walmart stuff, I'm sure, was just like not their number trying to be –

something they just come across I think we talked about this before and they just there's some people that just like don't come across great sometimes and it's like so it's easy to like attack them you know what I mean and it's like the fans love them that love them and then the people that don't like you know they could come across as like ungrateful just this but they probably don't mean it that way it's like Rachel Zeigler you know what I mean there's probably something else but something is just a miss a miss with her I will say it's like interesting that of course it's like the young girls that like have to deal with it where it's like guys they can go be bros be bros like yeah

XQC gambles $3 million. Like, well, it's like they get, they have like all the room in the world to like be so braggadocious and like, you know, they don't have to worry about mincing the words or something. And it's like, but of course with like the girls, it's like a little thing. You're so right about it. You're so right. With like, yeah, like look at Charlie getting, and she knew, oh, she even says, I think on the show, she's just like,

I know that I'll get blamed for this. Like it's, I think it might've been the breakup or something. Was that what it was? And she's like, she was like, I already know everyone's going to hate me for this. Already people are going to blame me for this. And that was like her biggest thing. And like, it is kind of true. She like got all the hate. Meanwhile, Landon, I think himself will say like, I mean, get into this drama with these 18 year olds, but like him, I think he was saying that he was the never one to, well, he had, he said he was the one to never break up with her, implying that like she broke up with him, but that he was also like cheated or something was the implications I was getting. So, um,

It is kind of annoying. You never see anyone bashing Landon. And Landon has a whole song, which I kept thinking of the song and it came to me the other day. It was like a song basically being like, I was friends with your ex. You were with him when... Do you know this song? No. It's a catchy song. Do you know it? Sounds familiar. I was friends with your ex. You were with him when we met. Guess he hasn't found out yet. But I know he's going to kill me when he sees me with you. It's like, and she's in the video. Anyways, it's the whole thing. So it's like, why are

for him like literally being like stealing this like according to his song His Friend's Girl and stuff like that. But if that was Ariana Grande. That is it. Yeah. Okay. Little Huddy was with Charlie and yeah it is it is it is crazy or guys in general like Stanley Tucci and all these people who've like left their wives when they were sick and like went with their co-stars and stuff. I'm just like this happens all the time with guys like leaving their wives or cheating Jude Law all these things like that and like it kind of gets like whatever but

Ariana Grande is like this homewrecker and it's like I get it but it's also just like double standard yeah that's why I was down this past the patriarchy was really asking up this past week because I was just like also like Ariana it's like really once again you need to blame Ethan because he's in the relationship like he's the one that's leaving his baby and wife so it's fine it's one thing if Ariana knows but it's like honestly like if someone cheats it's like I blame

Moses like he knows what he's ruining not like girl you know I'm saying hypothetically you're that I agree with you yeah thank you Ethan should have not opened that door no for sure it's just like but our

But Ariana gets the heat. Like, oh, she does this to everyone. It's like, okay, well, the guys are more to blame because they know what they're giving up, you know, and they're losing. But the patriarchy is real because just Ken got nominated for a Grammy. And I'm just like, wow. Wow. The Barbie movie. And Ryan Gosling becomes the star of it. Wild. It's wild.

How does that happen? And how is everyone just obsessed with Ken? All the girls are wearing the I am Kennef, I have one too, the Kennef hoodies and stuff like that. And it's just like, how did that happen? The Barbie movie and all the Kens took over. It is kind of unfortunate. It's a good song and Ryan Gosling is really talented and deserves like his flowers for the movie. But when the Oscars and all the awards come around, if Margot and like America Freer like aren't also in the mix, which-

very well might happen I'm gonna be like very salty that's gonna be wild Ryan Gosling wins the Oscar and like they don't even get nominated that would be crazy Ryan was great and like he definitely deserves it but it's also like without Margot like a movie would not have become like a phenomenon yeah and without Margot Ryan Gosling wouldn't be in it she's the one that like begged him to be in it she like wanted him to be in the movie and he was kind of like I don't know and like all this stuff so

it's, yeah, it's frustrating, but it's like, but we're all guilty of it. Like we're all like, I remember the first thing I said was like, the Ken's were so good. That was my favorite part. And it's just like, without even realizing what I'm saying, I was like, oh no, we're not supposed to be, I don't know. I think just in general, women will always just be like a little looked over, like unless you're like, yeah, like a powerhouse, like Ariana Grande or something like that. Like it's,

I think a lot. Like, America's Fair was so good in it, but so looked over. You know what I mean? And Margot Robbie, too. It's like she was Barbie, but I'm sorry, Ken stole the movie. And it sucks. Like, it sucks because it's like, I love Margot Robbie, too. Yeah. It's frustrating. Did you see –

Trixie Mattel said Olivia Rodrigo asked to be on her show. And did she say no? Did Trixie say no? Trixie said no. She's like, who is this girl? No. I love that she admitted it though. Also, that'd be something I would do. I'm like, oh man. That was the first thing I thought of. I was like, that would 100% be. Olivia's like, can I come on the Dish with Trish? No. Yeah. I've definitely done that to people. We know. I've talked about this. I've definitely done it to people who become big later on. My first one, the Dish with Trish. Yeah. I remember people submitting people and I was like, oh no. I was like so mean about it. But I was

you know, I get it. Like, you know, you don't know someone like if Trixie doesn't know this person or something like that, but at least you can admit now she's like, Oh gosh, please come on. Like it's crazy. And then she becomes like the biggest, like driver's license come out and stuff like that. You really do never know. That's why I like to interview like people who are fresh and new because you never know. Even Trixie. Like I remember I was working at Access Hollywood at the time and I just really loved Trixie and I, I booked an interview with her like as soon as she was done with, with Drag Race and we were like her first interview and she was like so like small time at the time. She literally just like gave,

me her phone number to like text her to like how to figure out how to get into the studio or whatever. It was like very much like that. Do you have it in your phone? That's what I was saying. Like Emma Chamberlain too with like, I'd be, you just, she was at my apartment too. She was at my apartment downstairs wanting to come up. I was like, no, but she was 17. So yeah,

But I know. I think that's like – You just never know. You never know. And my next two guests are people that I don't think have done any podcast interviews yet. So I always love to be a first podcast interview. I think it's so fun. So that's why I always say like big or small. I saw Theo Vaughn have like a garbage truck driver from New York on and I was like, I love that. I want to just interview. I get a lot of emails now. People will be like, I work at Burger King. I would actually really love that. I would love it. It's like fine.

that right. You know, there's an email that'll come and I'm like, okay, this is the one. Because I can usually feel. Yeah. So, I don't know. Did you see the trend on TikTok, speaking of Burger King, where they do the Five Nights at Freddy's, like, can't wait to meet you. No. Wait!

You haven't seen it. I'm going to do it today. They're all in like their Burger King employee outfits and they're like, can't wait to meet you to join the animatronics family. You haven't seen that? No. It's in my head constantly. Like I love all the Five Nights at Freddy's anyways. We should do, we should plan a FNAF one. I would love that. Who would you be? I was going to say the Fox maybe, but I saw another girl on YouTube do Foxy. Foxy's scary. She like kind of slayed because she had like, she had called it Grayson's Project on YouTube. She kind of slayed. Yeah.

So maybe. I need a bunny. I was going to do like a cute little inspired bunny. Yeah, I think that's what I would do. I was going to do the full. You know, people do the whole like makeup, the like bear. And it's so scary. I was like, okay, let's not be terrifying. Make it cutesy, I think. Yeah. Most can be the security guard. I see the security t-shirts. I think they're on Hot Topic. I've been looking for like good merch. Because those are the ones where she's like, eh, whatever. MatPat's merch. It's like, it's officially. You thought it was MatPat? Yeah.

A little diner uniform. That'd be a slay. Yeah. You'd be Markiplier as what could have been. You weren't in here for that. Markiplier turned down Friday Nights at Freddy because he was busy with his own movie. Do you know Markiplier? His face is like, what? Wait, what? I don't even know him. I don't know how you describe him. He has a low voice and everyone thinks he's hot. Yeah, he's a deep voice. He is hot. He games and does acts. I guess.

He's like so popular. I literally had no idea what he did. I just always heard Markiplier and I was like, girls like him. Like everyone likes him. Harry Styles is bald. Did you see that? What? Harry Styles is bald? What does that mean? He shaved his head? Yeah.

at the sphere. Was he looking at you too? Was he watching you too? Love that. I love how everyone's going out to see you too. This is everything. The sphere looks like it would make me motion sickness. Me too. That was the first thing I thought. It's like moving. It's overstimulation too. Like my little ADHD brain, I would be like,

Going wild. Yeah. It's crazy. So, hairstyles, shaved his head, and people are mad. He's bald. Yeah. A lot of people are not happy that he's bald. Can people leave hairstyles alone? Like, they literally have everything to say about him, too. I was just like, I... A lot of people are saying, like, they don't even want to meet Harry right now in this bald era, which is wild. Oh, my God. What? And it's like Harry's dance. What if he is sick, you guys? Then you're going to feel real bad. Yeah. Seriously, people need to just stop. Well, there was...

A, there was a blind item and there's sources that have said this. Did you keep the blind item last week? Huh? Did I keep it? Did you keep the blind item? Yes, I did. Oh, okay. Maybe for our members we can do blind items and I'll just be like, no. Does me every week be like, I don't know what this is? There's a blind item and sources saying that like it's for like a new Harry era. It's like bald era. What does he take this with? Not everyone can have eras now. I'm so over. There's also random people on TikTok that I don't like. This is my new era. I was like, I'm over the eras.

What era are you in right now? My Brooke Trishler, Olivia Avery era. I love the Brooke era. I'm in the Brooke Schofield era. I'm like, I don't know what, it like altered my brain chemistry like that interview. Yeah. I was like, wow. It was very, yeah, it was weird. Same with me. I was almost like,

and I'm not saying this like to chew my own horn, but I was almost like interviewing like a little me because I was like, she had so many of the similar things with how she thinks about like boyfriends and how she thinks it's like the way she's so like attached to things. And I was like, this is like so weird. It's like, it's the one person I feel like I like related to the most. It's like, oh my God, I feel like I'm like watching a little me. It's like so weird. I was living, I was like, in my head, that's what I'm like, but I'm like, she's just like cute and pretty, you know? And I'm just like, but in my head, I'm like, that's what I am. You know what I mean? That's how I feel too. That's how I feel.

This is like me. Meanwhile, just like gorgeous, stunning, clear skin. Okay.

Never. I was just like, yeah. It's so cute because like random people want it like sliding into her DMs. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Celebrities. Oh, no. She's – I mean she didn't even say the names. There's like hot comedians like episodes she dated. Like all this stuff like that. They're like big celebrities. I was like, girl, like everything I wish I had. Same. Kind of love it though. Yeah, I'm in my brick era too. I don't know what era I'm in. I don't know. I'm in my FNAF era right now because I'm really deep into it too. Like all I'm thinking about now is going to Burger King to do the little like – You know, I just –

And I feel like TikTok is very welcoming in that community. Like they seem – like I did a little lip sync to one, not even as a cosplayer. I'm like, yes, you're FNAF era. And I was like, yeah. There's not a lot of gatekeeping in FNAF, I think, as from what I've seen so far. Yeah, and if you are, then they're weird. It's a video game about animatronics. Like you're – it's so odd. Killer animatronics.

I'm even like reading the FNAF books now. Like I'm really going deep. Oh, I didn't know there was books. I'm going to do the books. I don't do video games, but I make the books. That's why I'm like I can't do the video games. I'm like the next best thing. Because I'm so intrigued. I'm like I need to know more. Me too. It's so fascinating. It's just cute. Everything about it is cute. And just the little – I can't wait for our cosplay. So we have to do a Brooke cosplay. That's going to be all our December. We'll have to do a Brooke cosplay, a FNAF cosplay, and then we'll have to do like a Christmas outfit or holiday or something like that. Yeah, a little elf or something. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. I like that. I was thinking like, you know, a little gingerbread, but an elf is cute too. I like a little elf moment. We're finally going to watch the Santa Claus this year. I've never seen those movies with Tim Allen and we're watching Home Improvement. I love Tim Allen, so I'm going to finally watch them for the first time this year. I can't believe you've never watched any of them yet. Never was my vibe. I was like, I don't want to watch this, but I love Tim Allen. I know he's conservative. Don't come from me. I don't know about politics. I don't want to judge people by that, but yeah, I think it's a good movie.

Yeah, I think he's like an open-minded conservative. Because like I told you, he believes in January 6th or whatever happened. I don't know. I don't know. Or just disbelieves it or just doesn't think it's good. I don't know. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. He's middle ground. What happened January 6th? Everyone always uses that as like a point of reference. See, we always say that. Like, where were you January 6th? I'm like, what does that mean? Oh my God. Anyways, that's a political show we don't need to get into. As long as you were home on January 6th, you're fine. I always hear people saying this. I'm like...

Just so random. I was like... That's iconic. Yeah, I can't... Anyway, do we have lighthearted stuff or should we get into serious... There's so many serious stuff. Mr. Beast is fake. In Mr. Beast News...

kind of like pandering like he was kind of like did you see it his wealth which he's like he first of all if you're manifesting that you're going to get like canceled for it like you kind of already know he's like I know I'm going to get canceled but and so on one hand everyone's like wow like people are worried about the hide and seek but meanwhile he's building wells in Africa and like while that's great and stuff like that Africa

And Africa, babe, correct me if I'm wrong here, Africa was just like, okay, because basically he said like, you know, this government doesn't really do anything for their people, kind of calling them out as like not being a great government or whatever. And Africa's like, that they're relying on like these handouts from people. And Africa's like, what are you doing? Like, we're helping as best as we can or whatever. So he was kind of...

He was doing a good thing. Meanwhile, like crapping on like the government, the country and where she's helping, which is kind of like weird. It's kind of, I don't know. It was beyond weird because it's one of those things yet again where, yes, he's doing a good thing, but it's also like, okay, but under like what – under what guise? Why can't you just do this without the video? I get it. The video is showing and like helping people, whatever, inspiring people. But then you're also crapping on this like country in which you're helping the people that live there. You know what I mean? Yeah. So he's kind of getting canceled. He is like – your anti-Mr. Beast agenda. I know.

what it is. I don't know what it is, but I know what it is. And I feel, I feel a little bit of people also getting it. It's like this vibe, this like movement. And I'm like, you know what? And it's just, it's more about how

accountability. Like, can you do, can you just be the good person that you are now that you're like super rich and not have to put people through, not to put people down, not to put the government down, not put people through humiliation, like squid games. Like, can you just like do, just do you, you know, just be good and show being good. And that's it. I do get it in the sense, like he does have to like entertain. He does have to like make money to like donate money. I get all that stuff. I think the big thing for me with Mr. Beast is like, I see it. I respect what he does. And like, you know, it's having a whole production. It's a lot. And

He's worked hard. My only thing with him is just the criticism. At some point, you have to be able just to take criticism. And sometimes you throw it out, but sometimes you see what you can improve on. And I think with him, there's a wall that's just like... I get so many views. I know that I do a lot of good stuff, which he does. He does do good stuff. But at the same time, you can see there's more respectable ways to go about some things. And I think kind of taking some stuff in, absorbing some of the criticisms.

I think that's where. Yeah. Which I think, yeah, because he didn't have like a female winner. Someone said, oh, he had a female win like one of his competitions, right? Was that recent? I don't know. I don't know. Anyways, I feel like he kind of hears some things, but maybe like doesn't. But like this one, it's like he kind of knew what he did was a little like shady, a little shifty and like, you know, kind of like helping people, but putting someone else down. It's like, you know what I mean? I don't know. I think the whole thing is a little shocking.

It's a little, yeah. Yeah, I can see it. I mean, at the end of the day, it's good that, you know, more people have access to water because of the wells that he. For sure. But yeah, I guess, I don't know. It's so dicey because like I get both sides, you know, like I get why some people will be offended and there's like this whole like white savior complex thing going on with it. And I, I can see why people would be like kind of like shifty towards it. I guess at the end of the day, it's good that he's doing good stuff, but.

People who think that it's black or white, especially when you're making so much money or such a big business, obviously there's shades of gray where there's some stuff that can be done

you know, more respectfully or more like morally, you know, like at the end of the day. Right. Don't say like they're reliant on handouts. Like, who are you? You know what I mean? Even if that was true, I don't know the case. I'm not educated on this, but it's like, even if that's the case, kind of like a humiliating thing to say, it's kind of like, oh, or so just like a condescending thing to say, like they're reliant on handouts. So look at me just doing all this. It's like, okay, just do it. And also there's, there's like a,

It's almost like a PR move, right? It's like somebody sits and thinks, okay, what can we do that nobody will criticize? Give water to people in Africa. You know what I mean? You live here. You know the communities here. How are you not seeing what's needed around you and helping people around here and not just looking for that...

- I don't know. - Clickbait. - The image, yeah. - Right, like Africa. - Oh, nobody's gonna criticize that, right? - Yeah, that's always like, yeah. It's like the starving kids in Africa too, which is like there are, and they're all over the world. But I think it's like so focused on that. - It doesn't feel genuine. - Yeah. - Especially if you didn't do it with the locals, like work with the government, with the local, help them in a way that's sustainable. We don't know if those wells are gonna last long or maintained or all of these many things that have to happen. - Very true, like the Oprah with the cars.

I'm the same thing. Yeah, everyone gets a car and then people all have to turn their cars in. Even in Hawaii when Oprah was donating, I think she didn't donate it like a, allegedly, a thing for electricity. What?

A generator? A generator, yes. I knew that one. She donated a generator to people that were affected by the fires, but it was a really old generator that died the next day. Oh, what? Allegedly. So people were like, well, what the hell? Oh, no. Why did you do that? Yeah.

Why didn't you get a new one? I know. So it's like, is it like a situation like that? Oh, man. Like with Mr. Beast. So I don't know. It's like, yes, it's just so – I don't know. It's so hard morally to like see –

Mr. Beast is the new Oprah. It's kind of like The Rock, you know? Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, I know. Somebody needs to follow up with the Wells in like two weeks to see if everything is still – Two weeks? Wow, they're already following after two weeks. Maybe like a year. Well, with Oprah, it was like a day. That's true. That's true. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah.

Yeah, like I said, I think he already kind of knew something was a little shifty because I'm like, why would you say you're going to cancel this? Why preface? Yeah. Yeah, like I know people are going to cancel me unless he was being facetious as is like, you know, this is such a great thing that I'm doing where like you said, you can't really argue. Okay, wow, that's amazing that you did do the water work. I think from his perspective, he is really doing good stuff. Like he, a lot of YouTubers like,

when you're that big you know I feel like a lot of them like hoard their wealth of like with David you know it was just like his friends like he's actually I know that Mr. Beast is like trying to make a difference you know like he is trying so I think that's the hard thing from his perspective I think that he thinks he's doing great but it's like like I said like you have to kind of be open to criticism and see like what you can definitely more respectfully especially when it's like different countries different cultures different governments like everything can be

down a little bit. His is wild though. And his, like I said, his comments are sus. You know, like I looked at the one in nine hours that had like 40 million views and they were all just different languages. I was like, that's kind of weird. No,

It's not here in just Trish. We have all authentic engagement, which is so cool. I just love it. It's so fun. That's why I love doing the live chats. I'm always, even if I don't reply, I'm there on the phone. I'm always looking at the phone because I try to reply. It's just hard to reply on the phone, but I love it so much. The Trish emojis, all that stuff like that. I can't wait for you guys. People say sometimes it's me, sometimes it's Moses, but if it's Trisha, like you can kind of, you're hard to replicate. You can tell the way you type is very specific. Oh, right. In the chat. Yeah. They're like, is it? I'm like, no. And also I'm very fast. I'm like, do you think anyone's as fast as me typing this?

I love doing it. When I'm on my computer, I can go really fast. Like I'm very quick and I love to respond to people. I think it's, it's my favorite thing. I love a live chat. It's so much fun and it's so great. And all the Trishmojis. Yeah. We've got to get new ones for the new year. Just a few, just a few Trishmojis because they're so fun. As we get new members, we get more slots. Oh, is that how it works? Yeah. Oh, please be a member of the channel. We should have done it at the beginning of the show. Be a member of the channel and then you can be a member somewhere else. We should have members only jackets.

Oh, that's weird. Remember? Like the 80s? Nobody remembers the 80s here. Maybe you kind of do. You were a little kid. I had a members-only jacket, but that was like five years ago. Why? From like a thrift store, but I just thought it was a cool jacket. Those were cool. I remember Jason Alexander and Chell Howell had a members-only jacket, and I was like, yeah, it's very cool. Another crazy movie for body image. Oh, my God. That one's the worst on so many levels. In fact, they got Gwyneth Paltrow of all people to play the fatty. I was like, oh, my gosh. All right. All right.

We had a little break where we had to go clean our bladders. I had a couple M&M's upstairs. I have to admit that to you guys. Oh, I'm jealous. I had a few. Oh, really? I should have brought some down. They're peanut butter. Do you like peanut butter? Yes, I love peanut butter. Oh, my God. I can bring them down. It's a big reusable bag. I love that. Oh, my God. I don't know. Sometimes I feel a little bit like a closet eater when I go up there, but it's mostly because I'm so hungry. So I was like, let me just grab- Whatever's around. Yeah. And it's-

I mean, I literally was a closet eater last week. Moses came into the pantry and I was like mortified because I'm like, oh my God, he probably thinks I'm sneaking food, which I never ever do. But I was hiding. I was hiding from someone that was in our house. Not in a bad way. We just like, like we had people help in our house and stuff like that. So I was just like, I didn't want to eat in front of that person. I told you, I have a thing about eating in front of people. So I didn't want to eat. But I went in there when she wasn't in there and then she came back and I was in the pantry. I was like, oh no. So I'm just like eating.

like eating the chips in the pantry like a little mouse in the pantry and then i thought i thought she i thought she was coming in and we're cool everything's fine but i was just like but it was moses and i was like he probably thinks i'm a closet eater because you're like what are you doing in here i was literally mid chip is someone who eats in the closet literally was me it was very normal you were in the pantry i was in the pantry just eating i was like okay i i get weird i don't know like the fact that even getting i don't know you just call having a snack

In the pantry? I mean, could I have a snack like on the couch or something like that? I don't know. That was the first time I felt like a closet eater, which I'm not. Like I used to be and I'm just like that. Anyways, and I felt like it just now because it was like a quick bathroom break. I'm like, I only have a few M&M's. I love that you love peanut butter. He does not like peanut butter M&M's. Oh, really? It's weird. I don't like Reese's Pieces, but I do like peanut butter M&M's. Oh, that is weird. I love a Reese's Pieces. I think maybe it's just the ratio is like too much peanut butter. Yeah, just a tiny bit of peanut butter. I'm not a peanut butter guy, but I had a peanut butter sandwich before we started. I had a peanut butter sandwich.

I had a peanut butter rice cake before we started. Oh, wow. Okay, flex. Okay, rice cake over the bread. That does sound good though. I wouldn't mind that because it's really the peanut butter that I like. Yeah, I like the little crunch of the rice cake. I used to eat rice cakes. That gives me very like high school vibes. I used to always eat like just plain rice cakes. That's extra action to me because I used to taste like nothing in those plain little rice cakes. Yeah, but you feel just like, okay, I'm skinny. You feel light as a bird. Yeah, okay, but it does not fill me up. That's for sure. Pasta fills me up.

Switching gears, we have some serious stories. I feel like we saved the serious. We always have to save it for the end. Yeah, yeah.

The vibe comes down a little. It's like we want to be silly for most of it and then, you know, we have to put our journalist hats on again. Our journalist hats. Because I feel like there's certain topics that are like so important to talk about. And it's like the Kiki Palmer, which we love Kiki. I love her so much. I want to go on her podcast. Like everything about her is just unproblematic queen. Always has been. I think she's just like funny and talented. Like I loved her in Grease Live, the musical where she played Marty. I love her in Scream Queens. I love her like in literally everything. I mean, she's been a child star and like made it out. Like she's...

It just always seems so put together. And then we saw this stuff happen with – she had her baby. And we're like, yeah, she had her baby. I think she had her own morning show with, like, Michael Strahan and that other girl. There was, like, a girl, Michael and Kiki. And I feel like she's just everywhere doing everything. And then she had a baby. You're like, oh, my God. I think we love when people are in their mommy era, like Nicki Minaj with her baby and Vogue and Rihanna. It's just like, oh, so cute. Like, I saw someone say, like, our mother is becoming mothers. And I'm like, yeah. It was super cute. And I was like, totally. I'm in my mommy era. Yeah.

So it's cool. And then when you see other people have babies, you're like, oh my God, this is so great. And she had a baby and it looked great. And then

Then the shit storm happened. The worst is to me, the worst is when you're with a guy that, and it's not the girl's fault, but you're with a guy and they like, what is the word? I'm like, make you look like a clown. Like they make you, they embarrass you. They're like lucky to have you. And the guys are just like acting up. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. And it's like always, and it's always the guy's fault. That's what I'm saying. It's always the guy in this, in these situations where they like, whatever. Her boyfriend, the father of her baby,

what was it, eight months postpartum, six months before, maybe it was only like six months before, being like, criticizing her for the way she dressed at Usher. She went out to Usher, postpartum, looked so amazing, like literally had the biggest snapback body and it's like so hard to snap back after baby, like just enjoying herself. She's a mom. She's the breadwinner. She's all of it. And

criticizing her and like basically slut like not even slut shaming just like shaming her outfit being like who acts like this usher who like it's he notoriously always picks out the celebrities to like dance with and stuff like that so saying her outfit was all of this mess whatever embarrassing her people like ew we thought they're done they get back together like ah kiki but okay fine like i get it like he whatever he doubled down she gets back together with him and then

this happens. The restraining order happens. She follows the restraining order and everyone's like, what the heck? Like, this is crazy. She releases photos, photos of the DV, the happening. And it's so wild. And another reason why I feel like we shouldn't like judge anyone. Cause you like, don't know what happens behind closed doors because Kiki is like so unproblematic. Like she's always been drama free, all this stuff like that. And it's like, this happens. She stayed silent about it. Even when you were acting like a fool. And then the

happens and you find out this was happening behind closed doors. Like there's just photos right now, I think, right? Of the... Yeah, there's stills of... She had like security camera footage. So there's just stills of the footage of her, of the DV incident or one of them. One of them. And so there's proof she got...

temporary full custody? Yeah, she was granted a temporary restraining order and temporary full custody of their son. The temporary is annoying. The restraining order, the temporary restraining order. It's like people can like break those two. I mean, it has to be pretty serious, obviously. I mean, obviously that's serious, but also to get the restraining order, to get the, meaning like there's no, this isn't an isolated incident, not that it matters, not isolated incident. There's obviously like a fear, a danger where she's like has to get custody of her son. And she was trying to make it work. She like went back to him. And we see that happen so many times with

Yeah.

Kiki alleged that there are many instances of physical violence with Darius, including him destroying her personal property, throwing her belongings on the street and throwing her car keys to stop her from leaving. And she also alleges that Darius has hit her and verbally abused her in front of their son and threatened to K word himself with a gun if she left him.

And the court papers also detail examples of alleged harassment and other physical and emotional abuse. Kihia also said that Darius trespassed into my home without my knowledge or consent, threatened me, physically attacked me, lunging from my neck, striking me, throwing me over the couch and stealing my phone when I told him I was going to call the police, which is, that's the screenshot that she has.

A lot of people knew that something was just weird with Darius. Like, the way that he went about talking about Kiki, saying, like, you know, when you're a mother, like, the man of the house doesn't want his woman, like, going out, showing off her body. Yeah. And then...

The man becomes the villain because of that. Like he was saying all this stuff. There was other posts that he was making. He was posting quotes and like photos of this character from a show on Amazon Prime called Homelander from the Boys. And the character is supposed to be like a spoof of like super like

alpha male um super like conservative anti-women it's like it's a spoof of that but he was quoting the character at like as if he was like taking it to heart like inspirational oh my god which is really scary yeah so he it's just a lot of red flags and then the photo that he posted of his son like he posted after all this came out a photo of him holding his son i'll see you soon i mean like that baby does not have social media and it's just like it's

Feels like very ominous to say that when you have a history of doing all of allegedly trespassing, doing all this crazy stuff. Like... It gives me chills. Yeah. Like it is...

It's very sad. And that's really scary. And I think also to release those photos, like that is also, I feel like almost like a cry for help to make sure people know what's happening. This is happening. This is real. Like, cause you know, so many things can be misconstrued. Oh, like you don't know both sides of the story. You don't all this stuff like that. And then when you have a baby, like it just like amplifies things like times a thousand, you know, if he's doing it in front of the baby, if he's showing up and,

And yeah, then posting the baby being like, I didn't even think about that until you said it. Cause I was like, Oh my God, that's like, so, cause I was first like, Oh, he's just trying to like show social media. Like he's a dad or something. But then it's like, yeah, no, like see you soon. It's like, no, you have a restraining order. She has full custody. Like you're not going to see him soon. Yeah.

If something like that can happen to Kiki Palmer, like it can really happen to any woman, you know? That's what's wild. And you're like a celebrity of all the means, all the money, like security, all the stuff like that. But it's like, it's still scary because it's just like, yeah. These, yeah. This kind of thing is like, and it's repeated. It's in front of your child. It's like, yeah. And all the signs are like there, but it's just sad. It's sad when there's a child involved. It's sad that you have to do this. And it's just...

And, yeah, and to have to prove it. That's also because you just have to put so much out there. And it's like, oh, man, the whole world knows your business. Yeah. And Kiki, too, her brand, what people know her for, she's kind of synonymous with confidence and very self-assured. She's a breadwinner. She's a hard worker. Like empowered, liberated. Yeah. So if something like this can happen repeatedly to someone as empowered as Kiki, then really.

For sure. I think that's like the scary thing, you know. Yeah, she's not like – she's very outspoken. She's not like, you know, anything and like how you would think about and this is like happening. And she – not only that, but like protecting him and back to him. Like it really does – you get sucked into this thing or, you know, especially when you have a family, trying to make the family work. And it's so hard. It's so hard to see. Well –

Should we end on YouTuber news? Yeah. We always have to save that for last year. Yeah. Okay. Well. Every time there's a Colleen in the story, we always like. I know. I know. We hate to do it, but. Right away, I'm just like, oh, comment's like, oh, you know, because she has been quiet. I mean, she's. Which is why. How many months has it been? It's been. Since June? Since June.

Like, this, like, a human aspect, because I know her. I'm just like, is she, like, okay? Is she, like, doing okay? That's true. Which, you know, she was shopping at Ross, so she looked fine. She was, like... Oh, I didn't know she was spotted at Ross. Yeah, she was spotted at Ross. She was spotted at the airport. So she's probably fine. Oh, she's out. Okay. But, you know, when you do love...

Okay, anyways, I'm not trying to defend her, honestly, because this is, I don't think it is a cancellation. I think it's a very big, serious issue. On a human level, I hope everyone's okay, but also I don't really care. Because it's just like she, anyways, until like you can acknowledge like you've like really messed up a lot of people, like, you know, okay, we get it. But I know when I talk about it, I'll let it go, but it's whatever. It is what it is because it is.

And this is something that I feel like is kind of personal. Like, it's kind of like I have very personal insight to both of this, the situation. Rosanna Pantino, who I love, so I'll just put out my bias there. Like, I love her. I'll always, like, defend her. She's, like, really, really sweet. Even before all the Colleen stuff, like, she was always really nice to me. She put out a notes, was it? Was it a notes thing on X? Yeah.

Which is... I sent her a text. I was like, wow, you know, that I'm like proud of you for putting it out there because so many people... And this was happening to me too when this all happened back in the summer, which is like literally just this year. It seems like now it seems like forever ago. It seems like so long ago, which thank God, because it was like a nightmare this summer. But, you know, so many people are like, me too. Like it would... It took me a few weeks, but people are like, you have to talk. You have to talk about Colleen. You have to do this. And I think Rosanna was getting that pressure, which...

I didn't know... I guess I knew they were friends. I didn't know they were that close. Whatever. And I think everybody... Joey, I think everybody was getting, like, feeling pressured to... People were like, they should talk about this. They should do that about this. And it's like, I was always on the stance, and I still am. And, like, no one should feel pressured to have to talk about something unless they're directly... Especially when they're not directly involved. It's like... And that Rosanna statement's regret. So she put out a statement...

again, this is like a timing thing, like give people the time and space because she was a friend of hers. And so she like, obviously in her statement said she didn't know any about any of this, didn't see any of this stuff. Um, and was waiting to see if there was, cause when you know someone you want to hear is what's the truth? Was this the truth or whatever? And, um, she, you know, in her statement was saying that she, she didn't get a response basically being like, you know, none of it was true. Um,

Basically, she was told none of it was true, which is what I was being told. And then to have all this stuff come out, you're like, okay. So she took the time and then she goes also to not pressure people and to not talking when they're not ready. Because if you don't know about a situation, if you don't know the full story, it is a lot to pressure someone to talk. It's like with an indirect thing. If I did something messed up and then they're asking you for a statement, wouldn't you think like, oh, let me ask Trish about this. Let me see what she's saying. Let me see all this stuff like that. I know Trish and like...

You don't want to try and get the full story. And sometimes you don't know people. Sometimes, you know, you could keep bodies in a freezer and have no idea. And you're just like, oh, well, I had no idea. But it takes time to figure out if that's true, if it's whatever. I could be lying to you and be like, you know what? That's not true. There's no bodies in the freezer. And then, like, bodies in the freezer come out and you're like, oh, shit. Well, and I think that's what happened with Rosianna. And we've never talked to an extent about this. It was very in passing at, like, a birthday party or something like that.

And it was very much that. It was very much like, is this true? And Colleen being like, no, no, no. And then stuff coming out and being like, okay, well, now you lied. And I will say, Rosanna, of all people, when she says she's open-minded, she really is the most open-minded person. I mean, she's friends with me. You know what I mean? She's very cookie-cutter, all this image and stuff like that. And she doesn't judge people. She's just not that person.

So I think she was like waiting to figure out like what's true. Is there a response? What are you gonna say? And then when she got lied to, I think that's when she kind of felt the flip where she's just like, oh wait, this is not a person that I thought that I trusted because they lied to me. And I think when someone breaks your trust, then you're kind of like, okay, how do I deal with this?

I'm surprised she made a statement at all because it is like, it's been so much time has passed and things do, people forget about things and whatever. And I'm kind of surprised she made a statement at all. That's why I texted her and I was like, I'm kind of proud of you for putting that out because you didn't have to. Like, you know, a lot of people stay silent when things come out. It kind of just like, there is, you know, you, you, you're not hanging out with that person. You can show by time, the distance and stuff like that. But

I thought that was pretty good. And I liked what she said about not pressuring people either because it's like sometimes if you just don't have the right information, speaking too soon about something can hurt so many cases. It can hurt the people involved. I don't know because if a big creator comes out and is like – she doesn't know the situation and she's like – what if people wanted to say denounce Colleen? Okay, that's one thing. But then it overshadows other people talking if she says she supports Colleen or whatever. A big creator can sometimes shadow people.

Or take over what's like really happening with all these other people talking and stuff like that. So I don't know. Sometimes I think it's just like noise in all of it. But I was shocked. I was shocked she said something because I don't think...

People should feel the need to have to, especially because I think she made it pretty clear she doesn't support it, support Colleen anymore. Yeah. But to come out and say that, make that statement, it takes a lot. It takes a lot, especially because no matter what, it'll be looked at as drama. You know what I mean? It's drama no matter what. Me talking about this now, oh, it's drama. Oh, you're still bringing it up or whatever. Even if it's just like, I feel strongly about this and I want to make a statement about it. So especially coming off the Mr. B stuff and her getting so much backlash from that, I was like-

Wow, it's amazing she still put out that statement and felt compelled to.

There was obviously something in her because even when she was here, like I didn't want to bring it up. Like she never asked me not to. In fact, I think they said that they would have like talked about her and stuff like that. But I didn't want our friendship to be that or that's what it's looked at because we were friends before all that happened. And I don't even think we all – I don't think I ever saw her with Colleen. Like I don't think I've ever hung out with Rosanna when Colleen was there. So it was never like that sort of situation. So I just – I don't know. I like that she's saying what she wants to say and –

Some people, some people it's like not good enough either. It's like, oh, it's too, it's too late. It's like, is it? It's first of all, it did just happen. I think even if you say something five years later, it's like, it's still, it's still making a statement. It's still making a stance, which a lot of people don't do. And, and I'm not saying they have to, but I do respect people when they can like make that stance and be like, this is wrong. Especially in the case, Colleen, I was just saying, oh, I hope she's okay. But then I'm like,

And rethinking about everything, I'm like, I don't know. She really diminished so many people's – not only diminished, but basically called people liars. You know what I mean? And that to me is like, hey, it's not lies. It's this. So I don't know. I thought it was a good statement. I thought, you know, it's a big move considering you were friends with her and you like supported her. And then like sharing those little tidbits of like, you know, I tried to reach out to her to see what was true. And I don't know what her exact words were, but she's like, sadly, I didn't get like a response from her.

That I wanted or something, but... It's not like I ever associated Colleen and Rosanna, like... Me neither. You know? Yeah. So it's not like I ever expected her to speak out or say anything. It's great that she did, but I never, like, had that expectation or felt like she... Like, I... Me, as someone who's, like, as a viewer, ever, like, was entitled to Rosanna denouncing it. Yeah. Because also just, like, knowing Rosanna's character, it's like, I know that any of that stuff, especially when it comes to, like, children and stuff, like, she's...

She has like nephews. Like she's very maternal. Knowing her character, I would know that she would not obviously like support that kind of behavior anyway. Right. So I guess it's like one of those things where it's like I'm happy that she did it. Like it's great that she did it and that she said her stance. But it's also like I hate that she felt like pressure or like bullied into it. Yeah.

And it's, once again, it was like, I know like what channels like were when she was coming out talking about the Mr. Beast stuff. It was like, oh, you can say this about Mr. Beast, but you can't say anything about Koli. And it's like the channels that were like very much like persistent on her saying something. And once again, I'm just like, it's a lot of men saying,

wanting women who were ever associated it's never like the straight men who were like associated with colleen or whatever you know it's like it's all smosh collab with colleen why is no one knocking on anthony padilla's door my mythical morning collab with colleen why aren't ret and link you know being held to the stakes i get i get very frustrated with that stuff too because it's like because even with like gay men like there can also be misogyny with gay men a lot too so it's like

I hate that Rosanna was like pressured into it. I'm happy that she said her statement and like everyone knows her stance, but it's like, I wish it was like on her own terms, I guess. That's the hardest part. Yeah. That's the hardest part.

I felt with mine too when I had to like finally come out when all the like pictures of me were posted and stuff like that because it's like it's not like I was never ever going not ever going to but it was like we were like such fresh friends so all this stuff happening before and all this drama like I had to keep I had to truly catch up on it because like I really had no idea so it's like always like this windstorm and then you are talking to this person that like you think that you know and they're like saying all this is not true which I think is what she was saying to like Rosanna and so you're just like okay so I'm not going to talk on something if this is like not true and this and like

And it's a lot. When I tell you like everything was messed up. Yeah. It's just like it's really that first like few weeks it was very, very overwhelming especially when you know of someone or have the idea of someone. It's hard to sort through what is real like what isn't because you have I mean you have people like Johnny throwing a lot of shit out there too. Of course. And some of it

It's like, okay, this is a lot. And like, what's, what's, what's real? What's fact? What's your, what's your feelings? What's your emotions? What's, so it's like feeling all that. And then, yeah, I did feel like forced to say something too, because then now my pictures are involved and I'm like, oh my gosh, like if this is circulating and then these are sending unsolicited, this is like harassment and like I'm being involved with it. And it's like, okay, now I got to say something. And I just was not in the space to say it. I was sick all, I was sick that whole month, like physically sick. And then I was like, just not doing well.

And it was just like so much. So yeah, like forcing someone to say something. And then when someone does say something, it's not good enough. And it's just like, this is why people don't say anything. And it's why I didn't say anything. Cause then it's like, well, Trisha, you're also a bad person. So it's like, okay, this is why I didn't want to say something. Cause I'm not one to like, you know, condemn someone. But then I was like, well, without really realizing the severity, I was like, okay, what she's actually doing is wrong and is criminal and all stuff like that. So it's just like, it's just a lot. And yeah,

Yeah, I think a lot of people just, I don't know, need to give people a little break on the internet because it's like she, what one person does, like other people don't need to make statements on it. You know what I mean? It's not like, it's not your responsibility. It's not his responsibility. It's like that person's responsibility. So it's like deflecting all this stuff when it's like, Colleen's the one who needs to take responsibility. Colleen's the one who needs to say something. If she can like send me an apology email, like she can do an apology video. You know what I mean? So, huh.

yeah it's it's wild and every time I had seen her since I really we really didn't talk much about it but just very briefly and I will say even like the like some of Colleen's victims too so like I don't care what Rosanna has you know it's not like I care about what Colleen has to say you know so it's like that's it it's also like it's not just like an us it's also like people who actually affected like the kids who were victims are also yeah similarly too so it's like

I don't know. I feel bad for Rosanna in that situation. And also, I'm just like, okay. Eventually, Colleen needs to – I'm, like, getting sick of it. I'm like, girl, six months? No, it's crazy. It's crazy to not say anything. It's like she has to come back. She just will, and it's like –

I don't know. When people disappear for a certain amount of time without like saying something before you disappear, like I effed up. I'm going to just like take some time. A little closure for people like, okay, she knows what she did is wrong. So she's going to take time off. Your last statement on this whole situation is I'm not a groomer. I'm just a loser. Yeah. You're wild for that. Yeah. Yeah. You're wild. Wild. Very incorrect. It is crazy. It's crazy.

Crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. All of this. I'm just like, wow. Like, just acknowledge, like, this is a big F up. And, like, yeah, everyone can come back. So, like, if you say that, like, everyone can come back. But when people just disappear and then they come back, like, a year later as if nothing happened, it's like, that's annoying. If she just was, like, you know, if she just owned up to it and, like, said, I'm going to go seek help or, you know, something like that. And she went. And this whole six months we thought she was, like, working on herself. Right. You know, like, it would be a very different perspective, I think. But, yeah.

I know. We don't have that. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird when it gets like this, you know, when it gets brought up again and you're just like, oh my gosh, like it is. Because you do start to think like after a while, you're just like, oh, hopefully they can. And then you're like, oh no, actually they're like kind of a – and then you hear it from like a close friend where like she also was like lied to. And it's just like why are you lying to like the people in your life? Like there is a problem, right? Like you're lying to me. You're lying to your friend. You're lying to all this like, oh, it's not true. It's not true. And then like being exposed to this, it's like – and then her response to me being like, oh, I'm just a coward. And it's like, well –

No, like there's issues. There's a problem. Like I asked you, I think both of us, I think Rosanna, she was very like, I'm very open-minded. Like just tell me like what happened. And she's just like, none of it's true. And then there's stuff that's true that comes out and it's like, okay, it's issues. And then you're also blaming, you're also blaming the kids. You're like, they actually, cause I just remember, again, not to break this up, but her being like, no, I remember I asked so specifically like two weeks before it came out, out,

I was like, oh, like people are saying, you know, you sent these photos or whatever. And she's like, no, they would send me photos of you. And I was like, oh, that's so weird. And I would kind of be like, okay. I'd send like one word back. But then like, that's like the crazy part of the psychopathic part because it's like you were literally,

doing this. Like she flipped it around on them. I was like, no, they were sending to me. And I was like, okay, I don't want to see these. To blame kids is wild. Oh my God. It's crazy. And I think that's why it's still so hard. It is like, no matter what, like, I don't think about it like on the daily, like I used to, but it is one of those things where you're just like, oh, what? Once you start your process again, like totally the same. Yeah. Like once I really was thinking about like how she left everything off, I was like, that is actually banana. Like, yeah.

you're kind of sick. Yeah, well, and your family's still on social media, so it's like you think you'd want to like try to make it a better platform so they're just like not constantly getting harassed. Yeah, like I can imagine what like Rachel's comment section is like, you know, like I'm sure she makes up. The Ballinger family, like your family has a family channel and you're going to like leave them hanging to be, I mean, I give it to them for keep posting. I don't know. It's kind of wild. I'm just like,

I would be, I would be bad. I'm like, say something like. Yeah. Cause now you're like bringing all of us down. And they're complicit because they're like not saying anything. If everyone in my comments was predator protector, I'd be a little salty. I'd be like, girl, get in front of that camera right this second. Exactly. Cause I would not be able to take it. Yeah. And they shouldn't have to because they are staying silent on it. And it's like, okay, this is one of the things. I think at this point, if I was one of them, like the sibling, relatives, I'd just be like, I don't support this. Like, I don't know. That's her, not me. Honestly.

Sometimes you just have to, they're not going to do it. You're just like, okay, you can love them from afar or closely, just not publicly. I don't know. Yeah. I,

I love this era of Ro. She's speaking her mind. Yeah. And I like that. I like that. I like that she doesn't, even after the whole Mr. Beast thing, like not, she doesn't feel scared or like silence. Like, oh, I shouldn't say something anymore. I think she's, she's like adapting and she's learning because she posted that and then that was it. And that's the way, that's the way you got to move. You got to just say your, speak your piece and then post your little outfit of the day and then keep it moving. She looked good. She was going to Diwali at Lilly Singh's. She has abs.

I'm like, oh my God. She's looking legit. She slays for sure. Keep it moving. Don't look at your mentions, girl. Take a note from me. Never look. Your mentions are good. People love you on there. I know. I know. I try not to. I don't know. It's been good lately. Like I said, maybe I'm not seeing hate and it's wonderful because I can read all my comments now and everything is peaches and cream. Knock on wood. The beasters. I know. It's up in that bay. I don't think they've been coming for me too hard. A little bit on Twitter, but nothing crazy.

gonna take it a little while on Twitter. Sometimes I'm like, maybe I shouldn't tweet this because I don't like to be in drama on Twitter. Save for the podcast, but sometimes I'm like, let me post this. I don't know. I just love, I love, I love the For You page so when I see stuff I like, I feel adamant to like respond to it or something. I don't know. It's just like easy to. It's like, I'll just tweet. I don't know. Twitter's making a comeback and I like it. I don't know. I want to keep talking, but I guess that's all we have. I know. Let's just keep going. Okay. We'll see you guys next time on Just Trish. Bye. Bye.

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