Jeff Wittek Talks Vlog Squad Trauma & MOVING IN with Tana Mongeau 01:42:30

Welcome back to Jess Trish and no, it is not 29, it is 2023 and we are here with Tana Mongeau and Jeff Winick. Oh my god, I can't believe it. Oh my god, I can't. My heart rate is through the roof right now. I'm so nervous coming in here. Never been so nervous. I've never been so nervous. That's why I'm so glad you're here, Tana. Because I, when you texted me, my heart sank in like not a good way, not like a fluttery way, like oh.

Oh my gosh, what's happening? Like, I associate us with drama and I try to be drama-free these days, but I just don't think this episode is going to be drama-free. It's definitely not. No, we're cool. We're all cool. We brought Tana as sort of a mediator to sit in between us, but look at how we sat, you know? Mediator, yeah.

Yeah, this is crazy because I do just want to say on the record, if beef ever went down between the two of you, I love you so dearly, Jeff, but I'm Trisha. I'm Trisha. No way, really? Because you guys are like tight, tight. Well, I was saying in the car that like- Well, I was saying in the car that like- Look where we're at. Your house is unbelievable, by the way. Thank you. The pink Rolls Royce outside is gangster. Thank you so much. It's just, it's incredible. It's a fun vibe out here. Well, we're far from LA, so we get more bang for our buck. Like where you live is probably the cost of this house for your apartment. Really? No way. Probably the mortgage and the rent is probably the same.

I'm not kidding. My Palazzo apartment rent was more than my mortgage here. Really? My mortgage is less. I pay $10,000 at the Palazzo and my mortgage is less here. No way. What? This is the goal. We're like pulling up here like this is what we want to be. 100%. We're the same age pretty much but like where you're at in life, you just had a baby, beautiful child, Malibu. Thank you.

And you have this beautiful home. It's great. I'm proud of you. You're staying out of drama. Well, I don't know if you're staying out of drama or not. I am for the most part. You are. This has kind of sucked me back into drama. Tana has sucked me back into drama. I said something about someone and I got like, oh my God, canceled. I was like, oh, it was a long time ago. I don't remember. And they're like, how dare you not remember? And I was like, I'm so sorry. Our podcast was so good. It did kind of like stir the pot a little bit. But it was so we've decided that we're going to be recurring guests on each other's podcast for the rest of life. I'm so honored.

for that. I was just like, oh my gosh. No, but you guys as a duo are kind of everything right now, but you're like not dating. Not at all. I don't believe it. And you put us in this chair together too. That's going to be hard to make people believe that. No, but there's just no way. You guys are together everywhere. You even said something so sweet on a text. You were just like, I was like, oh, I love your friendship or whatever. You're like, yeah, she's like a real one. I'm so glad I found her through all this or whatever. Yeah, I said she's incredible. I am lucky that I found her. And speaking of that. That's what you said. I'm lucky that I found her. That's

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you saw it all happen. You saw like my majority of friends, you know, that that changed up a lot. And I found her perfect time. You know, she got me out of the house because I don't want to do shit. But yeah, I reached out to you. I hit you up because of your guys's podcast. I was like, you spoke so nicely of me and you always really have it. And, you know, maybe there were some times, you know, there in the beginning that things got a little ugly, but we were on opposite sides, you know? Yes. So all is fair in love and war, you know? But that's what.

that's okay. We're going to talk about it, but that's what always kind of got me is cause like, like I never considered us opposites because we barely knew each other. You came in right at the ending of my little time there. So I was kind of shook that like, you did not like me so much. Like I was kind of like, okay, I get it. Like I'm not in the group anymore, but I was like kind of shook by it all. Yeah. He drank the Kool-Aid. Yeah. I was drinking the Kool-Aid. It was like cold.

Because, like, you were always nice to me. No, I'm just a loyal friend. Like, when I'm with my boys, if they have, like, an ex-girlfriend or something, that, like, you don't even listen to their side of the... So embarrassing. You're just like, fucking, yeah, I'm going to ride with my boys, you know? Yeah. We could talk about the Starbucks situation and all that, but we're going to do two episodes. I want some stuff for mine later. I kind of want the Starbucks because that's such a funny story to me, that how you punked me out of Starbucks. I want to try to run...

I know you want it for yours. That's not the case. We're going to get to the bottom of that. Since I put out an apology video to you. I was so aggressive about it, too. We can go into the detail. At the time, I was just so unhinged. I've never been more unhinged in my life. There was a time, I think...

Oh my God. What changed? Why are you not unhinged anymore? Is it the baby? Well, I went to a couple mental hospitals that year and then I got rehab. Like I went to a facility for like mental health, like recovery. So I got treated for borderline. I started doing like actual therapy because I never was in therapy prior to that. And then...

- Yeah, I mean when I met Moses, I mean I was still heavily on drugs, you know, but-- - Oh my bad Moses, I forgot to give you credit there too, you know? - No, he saved me, like love saves you. I truly believe that, like when someone really loves you, like he made, like I quit cold turkey, like I was heavy into Xanax when I met him, like I was just blacked out every night and then like when he proposed, I was like I should probably like get my like shit together and stuff like that, so. - Wow. - Wait, that's so sweet. - That's like us right now. - That's so sweet. - Wait, who's who? Who's the Moses and who's the Trisha?

What do you think? I don't know. I mean, look, this is basically, you know, how, what's the age difference between you two? Am I allowed to ask that? 10 years. Really? Yeah, exactly, I think. And you look so bad. You are evolving. Like, you evolve into this. Like, you know what the Pokemon? That's the goal. That's the absolute main goal. I keep saying that to her always. I thought that was the goal.

guess where you said she was going to be Jennifer Coolidge in the future and people always tell me that they're like you're Jennifer Coolidge now I was like okay thanks wow no that's the main one that's like she's the ultimate she's the final boss what is it Charizard because like it starts off with the baby one and then Charmander and then I feel so bad for all the girls and gays watching this I don't know what I'm talking about either I know nothing I just know everyone called me Jinxie and that's all

That's all I know. I can edit a picture of Jinx somewhere. It's like a Pokemon with big lips and blonde hair. Oh, wow. That's probably not true then. Yeah, I don't know. Something's there. Tana, Trisha, it's both. Double Ts. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Honestly, no. She's always been way ahead of me. She's always been way ahead of me as far as just accomplishments. Also, maturity. You've always been. That's why I've just always loved you. So with art-

not even beat with the thing that happened with us in like whatever the vlog squad days it was like so annoying because you were so young and I was just like people were trying to be like oh she's jealous of I'm like no I'm like this creepy old man is like hitting on this like young girl I was like I'm trying to like save her because yeah you know what I mean like I just saw so much of like me but a lot of girls you know that grow up like the way whatever yeah and I was just so like disgusted by it and that's like really what ended it all which is in a way I'm like so thankful for so would you guys ever like okay let's say when do you want to get married by

I mean, I should have probably already been. I'm ready to have a kid now. Like, I really want to have a kid, but I don't want to go through the, you know. I mean, I do want to find a partner that I love and is my, you know, one, but it's just not easy, you know. So, okay. So, you guys, how far age apart are you? You're 34. You're 20. 33. You always do that to me. Sorry. Even though we're beefing, you always add on like two years. You're like, oh, he's still doing YouTube. Isn't he like 35?

People do that to me, so. If you just add on a couple more years, you get away with it. Yeah, I know. Because it's close, you know? Okay, 33. No, you're right. You're right. I hate, I just did a whole TikTok about people like aging me, like using my age as like an insult. Like, what are you, 40? And I was like, I'm 35 and I've been on YouTube for 17 years making a lot of money. So like, F you.

F you. You know what I mean? I get you. I do that to a lot of people too. They round it up. Yeah, that was an old trick. I was like, sorry, flip back in. But I really did think you were, you're going to be 34 this year. I will be, yeah. In December. I looked you up. You can just say it. You can say it. Whatever. I just want you to know where I'm coming from. I'll call you 40 for the rest of my life. And you're 25, but you're so mature. You're so stable. Because I saw on your guys' podcast on Jeff FM that you guys were talking about having a baby. Platonically. Co-parenting. Yeah. Yeah.

We say a lot of wild stuff on the internet. Me like fully down. I'm so down. I feel like it's real though.

I mean, that, I think, was just us reaching. Wait, so you were lying? Well, right now, you're probably my best, like, girlfriend. Yeah, you are for sure. 100%. Cool. But is there love? Is there, like, are you guys, like, you guys love each other? That's wild. That's a good compliment. You're my best girlfriend. That's really sweet. And even, like, guy friend, too, probably. Yeah, I'm both. Now that I think about it. Don't misgender. And she's so loaded. I mean, that always helps. You know what I mean? It's so hard to find.

It's so hard to find someone that's not a gold digger. That's true. You know? And Tana is like the sugar daddy. You know what I mean? You could literally have this mic and this could be your show with a T on it and everything. Or the same person. Actually, we have a second T. We should have put the bling T on her. We have two of them. We should have done it. Yeah, we could have been the co-host. So when I watched your guys' episode and I came up, you...

spoke very nicely and you said you would consider having me on and I've always thought about reaching out to you because our last, like even when I was going to like text you, you just scroll up a little bit and it's just such violent, wild shit. Oh, is it still there? Mine's not there. Mine's not there anymore. I didn't even want to look because I was just like cringing at it like damn. Well, I think the last words you threatened me would be like you're a little rat and I'm going to like get you a rat or something. Don't take, look,

We're here. We're friends now. Look, we stopped this. And I want to get that out of the way. Like, look, there's a reason why I'm here. You've always spoke like you've had my back. You know, you spoke the truth. And I used to think you were batshit crazy. And, you know, that's just that's just how it is with that group. When you have somebody that's exiled, it's like, oh, they're batshit. That's why they need to get out of here. That's still like that's still I know it's wild. It's so childish. But they're not a thing anymore. They're dissipated, right? No one no one talks about they're not.

I don't know. - Yeah, I don't even say the name 'cause it's like nobody even knows but-- - Right, we'll bleep out, I swear bleep out vlog . I just bleep, bleep. - Yeah, yeah, I don't really care but you've always just, you just spoke the truth. You had something that you knew that was a big secret that I was keeping from everybody and not like I was paid off to keep it a secret. I just wanted to keep it a secret 'cause I was embarrassed

But that story needed to come out. And if not, I'd be in such a worse spot now. Like even, you know, this guy made his episode where he blamed the shit on me and I saw his true colors. And that happened like right at the end of the statute of limitations to even do anything to take action and to get like rightfully, you know, we're fighting it out in court right now, but.

you know, to get that. Like I needed that. And that was because of you. You opened my eyes or I, you opened my eye. Your eyes look great now, but yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. I just wish I was shocked. I'm still to this day. It's the most.

Even watching all this last night, your eye looks great. I didn't know how you were going to look in person because I haven't seen you. You know, I didn't know. What would you say if it didn't? I don't know. I wouldn't say anything, but it looks great. It looks amazing. So your surgeries look great. No, and that'll happen. And like still, I'm still so shocked that he's just like, fine.

Like, everyone just loves him calling you a clout chaser. I'm just like, this person, like, watching that accident is like. Is that true? I don't see that. What? I don't really follow anything. No, I think you had said. I watched a podcast where you said that someone said you were doing this for clout or something. He did. He said that. Oh, so he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's why I was like, wait, how?

does this get flipped on you because if there is like one clear victim and like victimizer it's you and david like how how is it just like swept under the rug like no one talks about it like it's not a thing i did keep a lot of things quiet you know like i didn't at first we were boys so i wanted to you know have his back but when i realized like oh shit in this documentary with casey he's blaming me for this shit he's blaming the victim not the other the girl

Yeah. That was essayed by Dom. You know, he's just like coming off like, yeah, no, people just did this for attention. I'm like, how delusional are you? But that's what this game does. People get such an inflated ego from social media that they think that they are on a higher level than other people. And I think he's just believing his own lies. And people around him know the truth. You know, like I know they can't fucking –

live with those feelings. They're probably fucking thinking about it all night. Like I knew it, I picked the wrong side. You know who I'm talking about. You know exactly who. Do you not talk to any of those people that were there that day? Um,

No, not really. Like I'll see, I saw Matt King in the gym. He was nice. He was like, I'll come on the pod. He, you know, that was cool. He said it, but he said he would. I respect that. If he said he would, I didn't follow up, but maybe I will. Matt has been the nicest one of the group. I always liked Matt. He's a really nice guy. He's a smarter one. Um,

And Mike Sheffer. I hung out with him recently. Oh, I don't even know him. When did he come in? Must have been after me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. He wasn't like a main character or anything, but he's like... Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

It's like real life, but like you were like characters like people are like characters in this like saga It's like so crazy. That's someone was asking me about that last night at dinner They were like you were good friends with David and I was like like I was around him a lot But like genuinely that's what it felt like I was like a character for sure You know, it's like there was never once like a how's your day or anything like that or you know? Yeah, I was never like real, you know between any of them. They know the deal. They know I also saw Jason in the gym

Did we not say his name either? I don't know. We can bleep it. It's fine. No, I don't care. What did you say? Creepy old man before. Yeah, I couldn't use that term. It's fine. I literally never think about him. He does not exist, but we can talk about him. Yeah, I saw him at the gym and he just like, he came up and he was like, you know, being nice and stuff like that. And I'm just like, you know what?

I'll be civil back. You know, because like he wasn't even there that day he left. He went to go to the bathroom or something like that. He had like a stomach problem. So he wasn't... He didn't even see it go down. But I just told him, I was like, you know how it is. The kid's fucking stunted. He'll never believe anything that he did anything wrong. You said that in person? Mm-hmm. What did he say? Yeah. He agreed? He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. So fake though. I hate that. I hate when like they agree. But it's like...

I always say this. You can like love someone and be friends with someone, but still admit they did something effed up. Like you don't have to be defending him being like, like I remember watching that episode of views and then like talking about it and being like, Jeff wanted to do it. We have the DMS. Like that was a real podcast. Yeah. Yeah. That's when I was like, okay, so this is what he's going to spread. This is what he's going to try to do. Okay. So I'm happy that you put out everything at the time. I was like terrified of it. I was like, how the fuck is she doing this to me? She's ruining my life. But really deep down inside you were.

giving me a push in the right direction well I'm glad because sometimes you know sometimes I do it like out of anger but especially back then I just like wanted I was just so upset that they got away with so much stuff and then I was just like this is something insane and I said that like in 2018 I was like something serious is going to happen someone's going to die and it's like whatever and then like I get tagged in edits and then it's like the song starts playing the drop comes and I'm like swinging around oh my god no but that's what

crazy it's on video it's like there's no there's no clear thing than like david driving this and you just like literally almost like being decapitated like it's insane that people like even argue like what is the argument that it wouldn't be his fault i asked him to do it before hey can you fucking you know spin me super fast like fucking like i don't know what they thought that that

would be believed or whatever but it's just like there's still stuff that i can't wait to say but i want to have like a i want to have like that johnny depp ember heard live stream trial i want to hold things for that too because there's a lot of like criminal acts that will put people you want to be a fucking citizen and you're doing the shit that people don't even know about i can't wait i can't do it here right now because there's still like stuff going on and i even you know i have a lot of people helping me on my case and stuff like that so it's better to do it that way

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, absolutely don't talk about it. You're not supposed to do social media even. They were like, don't do social media. But I was like, you know what? This is what I care about. This is what I do, not even just for the money. So I'm going to continue doing this. That, I need to get what I need from that. So, you know, I'm going to keep going. Well, Jake, your story was made public. Whether you wanted to or not, it's like made public. The video was circulating before you ever said anything about it. That's how I found out.

out you know what i mean yeah it was already out there so i think talking about it's fine and i think you're doing the right thing because so many people on social media just like it just becomes a shit storm and nothing gets done about it and i'm just like why don't people like press charges and do stuff because some people are criminal like i don't believe in like cancel culture but the people who do like criminal acts and like actually like literally like almost like and other things i mean they did a ton of criminal acts they've done a ton of stuff and i've been this place now where i'm like it's not my place to say or like the girls with the alcohol or whatever you know for so long i was like well i don't want to say it until like someone else like tells their story but i'll

cooperated all day long you know I know other shit that happened but it's like not my story to tell and if someone's not ready to tell it then it's like you can't force it you know where was this energy back when I was on the show and you're like didn't you get your fucking eye popped out by a crane by him no I know I was so angry I was so angry I can never go back and watch that I can't either that was no I'm sorry 9-11 seriously it was your 9-11 you just always joke about it but 9-11 or your eye both okay love it

No, I'm sorry for that. No, don't be. I'm telling you, thank you. Not many people were riding for me and I was sticking to my friends. I was sticking to that group and I was like, no, no, we're going to make things right. We're going to make things right. And then you guys put it out there and then we got into back and forth and I had a realization. I was like, wait, there's a victim, a real victim here, this girl who didn't want to be spoken about. She didn't want to be known. She wanted to be anonymous. And she came out and said her thing and everybody else was like, she's a liar. She's just doing this for clout. And I realized they were doing that to me too. And I was like,

wait, there's a pattern here. You are going through shit. They're like, oh, she's bad. She's just crazy. She's in the hospital, mental hospital. You weren't helping the case because you actually did get 5150'd. Even me, I'm like, wow, maybe she is just crazy. But I've always said...

I mean, at least in my opinion, it's like someone could be going through some stuff and girls would be whatever. That doesn't mean you're not speaking that. Like there's times where like I feel like I've been pushed to this by this crazy life. You know, people can't really understand unless they're in your shoes. Yeah. Ultimately, like I take responsibility for it. But that whole year that I was in that group, you know, I from 2017 to 2019 when I went to the mental hospital, I never did any drugs. They always say, oh, she was always on drugs. I was like, I never took one. I didn't go to a sleeping pill. I took nothing. I never drank like nothing. I never took anything.

any drugs that time. The only time I started doing drugs was after all that happened. To numb the pain. Yeah, of course. They also made up a bunch of stories about me that I found out later on weren't true, but they were told to me, like, this happened, you did this, you did this. Oh, you were high, you didn't know. So in my head, I'm like, well, I'll take responsibility for it. Like, shit, I don't want this out there. Gaslighting. I didn't even know what gaslighting meant. She had to teach me. I didn't either. She was like, you were being gaslighted. This person was gaslighting you. And I'm like, oh, shit, now I'm using that word. No, I'm saying...

I'm saying, I think as like overused, but I, there was so many instances where like you did this. So own up to it before we like go to the police. But I'm like, okay, if I really did this, there would be a police report that somebody, there would be news reports about this. You know what I mean? Like crashing into someone's house. I'm like, that would be all over the news. And there'd be a hole in the house. Right. Thank you. So I don't know. I don't know. Like back then, but I'm like pretty sure that like didn't happen, you know? Yeah. You'd remember. Yeah.

I definitely remember. I remember the craziest stuff when I was on meth. Like I remember that was my year of it. I remember all of it. You know what I mean? So a lot of it, not all of it. So I don't know. It's kind of strange. Why did you stand by David? Like after that accident, were you just like, okay, it was just like an accident. Like you were friends. I'm a very loyal person, you know, and I know people make mistakes. And at the time I was like, oh, he just made a mistake, you know?

But deep down inside, we all know how he really is. And he's never happy with a shot until he gets what he wants, where he like fucking switches it up and does like an extra thing, you know? And they had filmed for six hours that day, the whole day filming the same shot over and over again. He wasn't happy. So when I got on there, I didn't realize he had a different motive. He wanted to go fast, fling me off, you know, like some shit like that. So...

You didn't know? No, and at the time, like, afterwards, I was like, well, it's a fucking accident. Accidents happen. I didn't realize how hurt I was. I didn't realize I was going to live with these injuries. You know, I thought I would heal up like a black eye. I'd been jumped before. I had my face smashed up where it looked worse than that situation. Well, not really, but close. You know, I was just like, this will heal up. I'll have some scars, but it is what it is, whatever, you know? And it wasn't until the next day or a few days later when I got out of the hospital and he gets a phone call from Kourtney Kardashian and he was like, look at what this guy did. Like,

I was like, what I fucking did... And I didn't say anything. I bit my tongue at that moment. The day after? And also, I'm processing all of this. My life has changed. My life has changed. I live with this shit. Nobody else. So when I saw that that's how he was going to play it off...

I was like, oh, so he's not going to take responsibility for this shit. He's going to try to blame me. And I'm the one in the clip that if that video ever comes out, I look like an idiot because it looks like I signed up to do this shit. Like, what the fuck? If I saw that, I'd be like, yeah, what the fuck were you thinking? Right.

yeah, but even if you did sign up, even if it was your idea, all this stuff like that, like, jackass, like, he should have had, like, insurance, paramedics, someone driving it, not him. I didn't know he was driving it at the time. Like, I saw the thing and I just thought it was, like, an excavator person driving it. Like, I had no idea it was David. I'm like, why? Why on earth would he do that? Like, honestly, he's,

In my opinion, and I'm not a medical professional, I think he's a psychopath. Like, that's crazy. Like, who would ever do that? Yeah, we were just listening to a song on the way here. What's the lyrics, Tana? What's the lyrics? How does it go? If everyone else around you is crazy, you're the one that's insane. Yeah. You know, Jay-Z. He's always right. Oh, yeah. You have the New York. You have the LA. That's kind of controversial right here. I like that. Jay-Z and Beyonce are right here of YouTube. Oh, my God. I like that. I like that.

I think it's a Kourtney Kardashian thing. Like, he just called her and she was, like, with, like, Rain Disick and Mason. And he was, like, looking at his eyes. I don't know if she faced him. I was out of it. I was on drugs and shit. But I just remember... You think you're making this up right now? Don't fucking do this. Were you gaslit? No, no, no. I'm just low-key and off. I'm sitting here. I'm like, but you wanted it, right? But I remember that happening. And then, like, you know, we went back to the Airbnb and they stayed there. Like, we were waiting until I was able to travel back to L.A. And...

I just started thinking about it. I started like feeling things out and then we took a drive together and I was like, yo, look, that's not how it's going to go. Like I won't sue you. 10 out of 10 people would.

But I'm not going to just don't fucking try to do shit like that, you know? And I guess he took that and twisted it in the podcast. It's like, oh, it was Jeff's idea. You know, he wanted, that's what he said to me in the car was don't ever tell anybody that I asked you to do this, you know? You fucking delusional. Oh my gosh. You know, and like the shit in the hospital when he was the only one allowed in because it was COVID time. Like he's screen recording the DMs. I sent him a meme of an excavator before that and he like screened.

screen recorded that and put it in the podcast. Like, look, he had sent me this like, yo, you sick. Fuck you're in there. I'm thinking that you're the one that cares about me, that I bring you in and you're in there wiping the fingerprints off the gun, like already making an alibi for yourself and making evidence. Like from day one, they had a plan and I could explain that to you. Like, that's the stuff that I want to leave out from the lawsuit. But yeah, it's wild when it comes out. I hope it does. You know, I hope it does come out.

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What is the status of the lawsuit now? Can you like say that or no? Yeah, he tried to, uh, just, um,

Reject it. Dismiss it. Yeah, you try to get it dismissed twice. The first one was you said I was doing it for clout. The second one said I was his employee and I can't sue because I worked for him, which is insane. But that's a pay even more actually because they already – No, no, no. Nobody was ever getting paid. The goal was – Yeah, that's true. You just all film together and you get exposure. You build your own shit or if you just really dick ride and do stupid shit, maybe you'll get a car. Oh, no.

Yeah, right. Oh my God. I was trying for the car. It's a crazy... I got nothing. Well, look at us now. Everyone fell off but us. We're the only ones doing shit. We're the only ones that still have a career that could actually make money ourselves. That is very true. We don't have to make sure someone else is happy to make sure that we're still going to eat the next day. That's true. Well, I think he also like...

he probably realized at some point that he fucked up by bringing on people with their own platforms, like more so, or who would go on to make their own platforms, like a Todd or a, you know, people who are just right under his wing. Whereas like Trisha had her own YouTube channel, millions of subscribers and could go on and say something like,

And it, you know what I mean? Where it was like a Scotty couldn't do that as easily, you know? Right. Yeah. Well, that's why I think, yeah, they don't, I don't, I don't know why any of them are doing that. I mean, I don't know. They were all nice. Those people, I guess were fine, but they all like when Scott made the video defending David being like, he's such a nice guy. I was just like, what is, these people are like brainwashed. Like it's a cult. It really is like a cult, which is like scary. It's the Kool-Aid. I bumped into Liza at Fashion Week in New York. Oh my God.

Yeah. And she's so sweet and nice. And I'm like, it's again, it's like, how the fuck were you mixed up in this? And she feels the same way. And we had a little conversation. I was just saying, like, let's like we could talk for hours and hours. No podcast, nothing like that's just I mean, what do we talk about? Thank you. Fuck Liza.

Like, you don't need, like, an eye for a girlfriend. That would be crazy. Yeah, she's special. She's beautiful. She's very high-end, though. She's very, like, bougie now. She's funny. She's talented. She's bougie. Yeah, she deserves it. Yeah, she's super nice. She earned it. She made everybody. She made that whole crew. People sometimes, I'll see comments, they're like, oh, how could you say this? Like, didn't he give you a career? I gave him his career. Like, I don't know.

Liza gave him his career. That's my response. Everybody gave him his career. Think about it. You take all the friends out. What are people watching for? Because you're clever editing? Yeah, you're a good editor. Stick to that. Stop trying to drive cranes. Stop trying to do other shit. It's not for you. Liza, I told her, I was like,

I kind of slipped up and I was like, yeah, we were all drinking the Kool-Aid. But actually, she made the Kool-Aid. She actually was the one who made the Kool-Aid that David got a hold of. And then he started spreading out and Liza took off. Yeah, I know. It was really sad. Liza left like right before – like right when I was in there. I started like – I was like, oh, I love her. Everyone is so nice and sweet. And then it became so like dark and heavy and the whole thing became really dark. And David was just always just cold. He's just like a cold person. That's why I didn't know if you ever felt a real friendship for him because I know I didn't. It was definitely always just –

No, but there were definitely real friendships there. Okay, so it was real for you. Yeah. Todd was my boy. Jason was my boy. I had real friends there. So that's why it was tough losing all those real friends. And then that's why I was saying...

really happy and grateful that I found her. I also have Mike. I have different friends that I don't want to say impulsive. I don't hate them. They're not meant for me, obviously. They seem cool. I think Logan's cool. I relate to them more. They're about fighting and stuff like that. They're down to go get in the ring. I respect them. The Just Trust viewers are going to love it.

I love this. Yeah. I could respect that about them, you know? They're more my speed. Yeah. I get you. You're kind of bro-y. So bro-y. Whatever. I'm trying to change it day by day. I know, but that's why I love you guys as a duo because it softens you a little bit. Because without Tana, you're like, you're a rat. I'm going to come find you. And with Tana, you're like, oh, thank you so much. We were listening to Lana Del Rey on the way here. See, I love that.

I think that's what you like need and you guys are like what nine years apart. That's like our age difference It's like the perfect cuz like an older guy So cute if you have babies I'm trying to have babies at the same time as Tana so we can like we need to have a baby at the same time The way I'm talking about it like we're going to get our nails done. Yeah, we need to have matching talking about it So it might be a real thing I would never push it on anyone But since you're already talking about it, I was like, you know, that could be fun

be fun yeah you never know you never know it might have been under my nose the whole time what i'm talking about i'm looking for the one maybe she's right here were you guys were you guys friends during that era

I'm not kidding like no funny she was until we did the barbershop together and I was like oh shit this girl could really take jokes dish him back like

She's quick. But the both of you, it's almost scary to see a woman that's so outspoken and powerful and smart and sharp. I think he thought all women were just in the kitchen until he met me, which is really scary. Or just like, you know, a lot of influencers too rely, like you said, on other people and stuff like that. And I feel like with Tana, you've always been the power blazer with you and Jake, with anybody. It's always been Tana's the star and then these other people.

I'm leeching off her. I'm just leeching off her. Well, no, you guys are a good duo. At the end of the day, you can set up a camera. You two can set up a camera and have the same amount of views as if you have the biggest video. I was just actually thinking to myself, though, like, it is like, like, David could have never done, like, a mukbang. Like, we had a mukbang.

bang and no one cared. Everyone was like, no. Or his podcast, I'm just like, they would be like 38 minutes long. I'm like, why do you have a podcast if you're only talking for 30 minutes? They would do it as quick as possible. They were just trying to get it done. Because you've got to edit out all the fake shit. Exactly, which is a lot. That's why his vlog is like 4 minutes, 20 seconds. But I was just like, I think with you guys, it's like good chemistry too. You know, because it's like that makes a difference. Like, Tana is the best guest on any podcast she's on. You're so sweet. No, you're so entertaining. You're so nice to me. And people love you. But you guys together, because I've seen you with other like

guys and I like forget their names don't know and then like me too I know sometimes when I was watching dancing with we have to

I was supposed to go. I was there. Yeah, I was there. You have motherfuckers. That's my first lie of the podcast. Okay, I wasn't there. He bailed. You were supposed to go. So we've been having some trouble. We've been having a lot of trouble lately. My life is in shambles. You know the movie Fight Club? You do, of course, right? Of course, yes. So you know when the guy's apartment blows up, the narrator, and he just comes home and he sees his one unit's the one that's burnt out of the building, and he's like, what the fuck? I guess I'll go start a fight club. It's not really that, but kind of.

So my apartment just flooded. I lost everything. Everything's done. My podcast set, it's all in shambles. So I'm editing from a hotel. We're trying to get the podcast up and the video and just Wi-Fi in the hotel shit. So I was just stuck like with work stuff yesterday, stressing out. And Lele wanted me to be there so bad. And I told her, I promised her I would be there. She had a seat like with my name on it. I sent him a photo and he posted it like he was there. This asshole. Oh, I know. I thought you were, but then I'm like, you weren't next to you at Montana Tucker or

I was like, okay, where's Jess? I know, yeah. I just wanted to still show support, but I really genuinely couldn't be there, you know? But my mom was even like, oh, I see Tana supporting Lele there. And I'm like, fuck, I should have been there. So then I just posted it, and Lele left me on scene. I don't know why she still puts up with my shit, you know? I told her that I cussed you out. I was like, I'm so, like, I was telling her that. She was great. I watched it literally to watch you guys. It was, oh, I love you. That's what I'm saying. You're like.

I mean, I don't know Layla. I mean, I know her. I just don't know her. But, and I was like, oh, I want to see if Tana's on tonight. And I was like. It was so cool. It was like, I just love seeing people do like mainstream shit, you know, like that. Like it's just, there's something about that always in the influencer space. It's like, yeah, it's just the sickest thing ever to me. I'm like, dude, I was kind of, I was going to talk to you about this just randomly and send you a voice memo though. We weren't kind of talking about this actually. Harry Jowsey being on Dancing with the Stars. Like. Yes. What? I just, it's just like he's fucking on OnlyFans and now he's on Dancing with the Stars. Yeah. Yeah.

What? I'm so jealous. Is he having sex on there? Yeah. No. What the fuck? I don't know if he still is, but I know at one point he had this like sex tape where he was like in a shower and you could like, it was like through the glass. You could like barely see it. We did an OnlyFans collab. We didn't fuck obviously, but yeah.

Like he does OnlyFans, you know? Like hardcore. On Dancing with the fucking Stars. And I'm so jealous. I wonder if they know that. Because Dancing with the Stars, like they've circled with me before. You might have just got them fired. Yeah. Because I was like, they found, before I did OnlyFans, I had a Patreon where I just posted nudes. And they found nudes. And like, oh, wait, you can't come on because you're nude. So I'm just like, I wonder if they know. Wait, what? You couldn't go on what? Because you're in Dancing with the Stars. So you did OnlyFans before OnlyFans existed? They had come around. You were doing OnlyFans before OnlyFans existed? Yeah, I did a Patreon. I'm trying to think. Did President Snapchat. Do you remember that? Ever?

had a private Snapchat and you could charge $100 and it was a really big thing and so that's what I did and then when OnlyFans came around I was like oh this is like perfect. Wait that's so crazy. I didn't know that that's how that all went down. Like that you started on Patreon and then moved it to there. Oh I loved it. I loved doing it. Yeah because I just thought it's like you make so much money and it's just like so easy like you're going to send nudes to someone anyways might as well just post them and get money. I've always said that. Yeah. But you don't do any hardcore right? You don't. No. No. You don't show asshole or. You don't need to. No. No.

I saved that for you, honey. Wow. Wait. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. But one time, you guys. What are you talking about? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. This is... We don't want to screw this up. You know, this is a very good friendship and we value that more. Wait, but seriously... Yeah. That's what it is. And it's just like... If I walk into you like sucking one more time... That's what I tell her. That's what I tell her. It's just like...

Have you dated anyone since you guys have been besties? Yeah. We've been going after each other's friends for a while now, right? Mostly you. Mostly you going after mine. Wait, which friend? But it's fine. Which friend of yours? I wouldn't even say friends. Employees, you know, like my plumber. My plumber, she hooked up with my fucking. You're lying. You're making it up. My landscaper, yeah. My weatherman. I can't picture.

I can't picture it. So you throw in two lies and one truth and it's believable. You know, the weatherman was real. None of that was believable. None of it. I just wanted to know a little more about the weather.

Wait, is that real? No, it's not real. Jeff had this whole- They got like 90%. I think they cuddled naked or something. We didn't cuddle naked. That's cute. I like that. No penetration, just cuddling. Jeff had this whole episode. You were really upset that he thought I was hooking up with the weatherman. You got upset about it? It had a breakdown for like two months. Were you jealous? It jeopardized our whole friendship. It jeopardized the weatherman's job. Yeah, it was like a whole bunch of shit. What was it? Why did it make you angry?

I'm just fucking around. I mean, it did make me angry because I really do value this relationship, this partnership, this friendship. It means a lot to me. I've had so many friends that I've had falling outs with and I don't want to screw this up. So when my weatherman starts going after her and having

they want to have like a romantic relationship. I just know that it'll end bad and it's going to make my shit awkward. Jeff is like making this so up. Like he's having an episode. Did you guys hang out? You and the weatherman? Yeah, we still hang out. We're friends. They cuddle naked. We didn't cuddle naked. That's not bad. A cuddle naked's not bad. We didn't cuddle naked. You were in bed and did a shirt come off? No. Did yours? No. Has he ever seen you naked? Maybe online. That's a good point. Oh,

Whatever. I don't care. She's not going to give us anything. I'll get the weatherman on on the next show and we'll fucking. Why do I not know him? Is he part of your vlogs? He's always doing a different character. People know him and they don't even know that they know him because he's always a different person. You have so many people in your vlogs. I can't. There's just so many people in the Jeff FM studio. I'm like, I can't keep them all straight. He does a weather segment on the podcast every week. And one day he was just talking about the clouds and I was like, God, I'm so wet. We do this segment. I don't know any of these people. And I watch. I watch.

episode. I don't remember a weatherman. We haven't been doing them because after the flood, you know, we actually got hit with a flood. So now we don't have a weather segment anymore because we're not in the studio. Yeah, and he's been at my house, you know.

Was he reporting when the flood happened? The weatherman was over there. Yeah, he was. He was, actually. I'm so confused. Something suspicious there. Yeah, so I was just worried about them ruining my shit, like ruining my show, ruining our chemistry. If there's like, oh, don't have the weatherman call in. Like, we had a thing, and I don't want it to be weird. That never, you made all this up. I did. I might have made, well, I could predict the future sometimes. Wait, are you a pathological liar? No, I'm not.

She's gonna make me and there's real shit that I talked about and I don't want people to you know You did sleep with the weatherman, but you didn't fuck you stayed in the same bed together right didn't sleep over your house or try to sleep over and

You sent him home in an Uber, right? You were like, yeah. He sent himself home in his own Uber. Okay, so there was stuff going on. Maybe it wasn't like a naked cuddle. Maybe they don't want to admit that. Well, she's 25. She's going to be just out there. He's also a slut. He doesn't talk about that enough. Are you? That's not true. I saw something.

I'm not even worried about that she knows cuz I go stall her friends and then they get mad at me and they call her and then she's like yeah he's just mentally actually the worst that is like a thing like one like once every couple weeks like a girl will be like so in love with Jeff and then you handle things so poorly and then they're like asking me like what do I do and I'm like I don't but oh they ask you oh so you're like in there you're like a bro with them you know really you don't get jealous at all no

And you don't get jealous of her? Well, obviously you do. Yeah, it's so embarrassing. I do big time. I make up other excuses. I'm like, yeah, because it's going to jeopardize our show. No, I'm kidding. But you do get a little jealous. No, I don't. Are you kidding me? You have no possessiveness. I think I'm losing my mind every night. I just picked her up and there was a guy walking out of her house. That's a lie. You just said.

My security He's not security that guy's like Kyle sighs I know but he was 140 pounds. He has a gun I know everyone tells me to fire because he's little but I'm trying not to discriminate He has a gun get a huge security guy when we were there He was ginormous and he was so scary and I was like this is the first fucking - she fuck

So like jealous and bitter right now, but no I'm kidding completely we don't get jealous. We're just good friends We don't fuck each other's friends. I was exaggerating about that. Maybe one or two you have Yep, you with her okay?

Let's go through your... Why are we doing this? Oh, yeah, yeah. Let's not do this. Yeah, this is so straight right now. What do toxic couples say? Like, can we just have a good day today? Yes. This is like couples therapy right here. This turned into a whole other thing. It really does. Is there anything going on in your guys' life that we could talk about? No, we're here to talk about you guys. Didn't you have, like, a person on the podcast that was talking about another person and started drama? I saw T-Channel's talking about you guys lately. Like, there was... No. Oh, no. No.

Well, there's no drama. Chojo Siwa? Chojo Siwa. Oh, my God. I used you as the headlines for that, too, because everyone was like, well, you texted me. You texted me. I thought something, like, so serious happened. You're like, I'm so sorry. I had no idea. I'm like, oh, my God, what happened? Well, let's unpack that, because I don't know anything about that. Well, I just, like, sincerely ride for you, and we just did these whole episodes where I'm saying, like, Trish has talked to me a lot about how she, like,

doesn't feel like she's ever had good like girlfriends in the industry and i think that makes me really sad because she's fucking amazing and you know we we got into that and then right after you came on like a couple days later i had jojo siwa on just like randomly like i just want her to come on camp she's the mini pokemon she's the she's the first i saw her one oh yeah she she thinks she'll involve into town she'll involve in the town which will eventually involve into you she's like smoking crack in a couple years um

But so I saw her on someone's podcast talking about how much money she made. And I was like, damn, this actually could be interesting to have her on canceled and talk about the empire of it all and, you know, just celebrity secrets and random shit. So I had her on a couple days later. And then I guess she went on Howie Mandel's podcast and went all Colleen Core, which is awful. And then that came out like right before ours came out. And people don't know about like I'm in a contract. I have to do my episodes every week, whatever. I just I didn't know about it until then. And I was like, I had to let you know before anyone like that.

if it was like I said even if it was like David Dober I'd be like I don't really care because it's like it's a podcast guest and it's just like you know for drama for views whatever you know. Yeah but had I had the Howie interview came out before she was supposed to come on canceled I wouldn't have done the episode or I would have at least like bought a borderline asked her about it. Yeah it had nothing to do with me honestly I was just like so annoyed with her because she was it was kind of the same situation like Scottie defending David it was the exact same thing like JoJo defending Colleen when there's like hardcore evidence and facts like she was kind of basically like everything is lies and I'm like no but there's like facts

that this is not a lie. This is an awful person. There's videos. Yeah, same thing when Scott was defending David. He wouldn't do this. I'm like, no, but there's like that and that and that's what, that's used to what really would trigger me and now I know how to handle my triggers a lot better so I can like emotional regulate better but like in the moment I get so angry because I'm like, how are you defending someone when like so many victims are out there? David, Kool-Aid, all this stuff. It's facts. Like, you know, that's the thing is it's just if there's facts, there's facts and that it is what it is. And calling people liars when there's like

I'm like, that's crazy. That's like, I hate that as well. Like, I think this, maybe this comes from like the, the crazy bitch in us. It's like when someone's accusing you of lying and you're not, that's, that was, Todd Smith did that to me. And I had like a whole, like it, it is my trigger. Cause I'm like, why the fuck would I lie about you? What did he accuse you of lying of? Um,

I was at this Paramount Pictures, like Babylon. Paramount's going to love this. All you said was he missed hanging out with me or something like that, right? No, no, no. And that was like, oh, no, you can't say that. You can't put that out there or something. Well, he came up to me kind of yelling at me, like being like, there's two sides to every story, insinuating that there's David's side and Jeff's side. And I'm like, first of all, I feel like- Let's hear the other one. Let's hear what the other one is. And that's what I was saying back to him, essentially, but it's also just like I felt like it was one of those things where Jeff wasn't there and he felt like he could yell at me and like, hey, maybe

really uncomfortable. Like, you know when, like, a man is, like, close to your face and, like, whatever? Like, I, like, wanted to cry. I was, like, uncomfortable. I called Jeff about it and then we podcast about it the next day and then Todd went on to say, like, Tana's a liar. And it's, like...

If I'm going to lie about someone, I'm going to lie about someone where it could maybe benefit me at least. There's no... Yeah. I don't know why I have things like that. I just never have. I'm not that type of person. I might lie to an Uber driver. I might embellish about an ex-boyfriend. I might, you know. Yeah, no. Lie about the weatherman. You are so... I don't know about that. Wait, so you were friends with them still? This is when you were still friends with them and you did that? Not really. Or you were just going to parties? I think that...

Naturally, just as Jeff and I got closer, I mean, David was the first to obviously distance and then they all just kind of followed suit. Because you were friends with him still. Yeah. Yeah. And just writing for him, not only just friends with him, you know, like they see Mike Malak and they're nice to him and cool with him. I think that I was kind of very much like there with him for the surgeries and sitting on the podcast being like, this is fuck to watch. And I feel for you and I feel like.

It is just... You're also outspoken about it and Mike not so much. And also you're just like someone people listen to, you know? Not to say Mike is, I don't know, but I'm just saying you're outspoken. I'm like that. Like I stick with my friends and I'm loyal, obviously. Like we've been in situations where like I ride for them too much, you know? So...

like seeing other people collab i guess that's the game i guess that's youtube that's just what you have to do like you don't like doing that really i noticed you you said on on your episode that like she said jeff has people on that he doesn't even like and he'll just like call them out on their bullshit did i say oh i didn't say that yeah and you're like oh i don't like that shit like i wouldn't have somebody in if or oh it's just more me personally because i just like i'm so far removed from everything like more for my mental health because i'm like i was mentally insane so i think to like

do stuff that's like not fake but I don't know I don't know what the word is I guess I just no I don't know I don't judge like negative dramatic like yeah I don't judge it at all I just think I don't know I think I was so far out for two years I kind of just stopped making like YouTube videos and stuff like that but I'm not against it you don't have to play it like that you don't have to be like

not yourself, not genuine in those situations. You just gotta keep it. But I also don't think you need to do things like that. Like your brand is so much like you want to have on people you love and discuss fun things. Yeah. You know what I mean? I would love to see you bring on an enemy and just go at it right here in these pink chairs. But should Trisha's reform? Yeah. Cause it's so, you know what it is? It's like, I feel like I would love to too. Like I love to like squash beats cause I really don't want anyone to be mad at me. Like the Jeffree star situation. Like I got, I genuinely felt bad

bad i was really trying to like bury the hatchet basically i was like this whole thing where i was like i don't remember it was a long time ago right and obviously i remember and he got mad that oh you don't remember you remember and so then i got mad i felt bad because i don't want anyone to have like bad feelings towards me obviously people do like obviously there's people who are gonna hate me forever but even like i just don't want anyone to have bad feelings with me but i'm not gonna stay here with like david and be like so because there's just no i wouldn't say that fucking sociopath but like i

I don't know, maybe a lighter, harder one, like maybe you and JoJo Siwa talking or no, I don't know. Yeah, JoJo, yes, but she's, okay, she's kind of like you when you were 20. I feel so bad for her. Evolving. Yes, where it's almost like I want to talk to her, but she's still 20 and she's still like so warped. Do you know what I mean? She still thinks Abby Lee's her friend and Colleen's a good person because she's still in that mentality of like,

I say being groomed, you know, she was kind of with all these adults and I got that vibe from you when you were so young that you, of course, you were okay with these jokes of, you know, Jason trying to kiss you when you're 18 because it's like, yeah, you're trying to be in this group and you think it's cool and like whatever, as I did too when I was 20. And so with JoJo, I see it and I'm like, God, I want to talk to her but she's still so young and it's like, for her to be on here, I'm like, am I exploiting it more, me personally, like would I be exploiting it more trying to like,

help her if she doesn't see herself as a victim I don't know it's just like I get so I get what you're saying completely and I feel like even at like 20 I would try to hold on to you know like her and Abby Lee or her and whatever you know like you just want to hold on to it and make it okay and be okay and it's like I don't know what it was but eventually as you get older you're like fuck

that. Yeah. Like that's like not okay or even like your situation with like Shane like the peeing on Shane and whatever it's like you were so young and not to say like I'm not saying like I'm not trying to victimize you either because it's like yeah you know you loved him whatever but it's like there's something so like disturbing about it and because I was also that person at like 17 and

and thought all this stuff was cool and okay. I was just like, oh, I don't know. I think I just see it with certain young girls, and with you specifically, it really broke my heart. The whole threesome thing was just so, it honestly disgusted me because the cameras weren't on. I was pretending to sleep, and he's like, what can we do to have this threesome happen? What can you do? It just go in there with him shirtless, and I was like, this is a 20-year-old, and this man is 45. I remember that night. That was one of the last nights I ever went to that house, and it was super, it was just like the energy felt super dark. So dark. It just like, you know,

I can remember that moment and I like see it in like black and white. It was just everything felt really dark. And then I ended up living in that house after I lived in David's house for like four months. Oh, you rented it afterwards. Yeah. When we were still friends. This is before you and I were close. This place has got to be haunted now. And it was just kind of such an interesting thing to like when I was living there, I was like remembering all these memories and I was like, I don't know.

yeah because I wanted to buy it for a second and I was like no I don't you know it was a horrible house for what it was I was just like this is like no space no pool like it just was not the vibe but that was one of the last nights that was like I think that was like January 30th and I went to a mental hospital February 5th so that was the last night that I was kind of like exiled there was and I said don't ever do that again whatever it's like yeah yeah yeah two days later it's you Jason David Madison beer and a Tesla and he's like nightmare blood rotation he's like why are you attracted to Tana he's like I love broken girls and I was just like

And that's when I went off. I made the video. I was like, you guys are disgusting. I went off on these voicemails. He was like, no, we said it was okay. I was like, oh my God. So that's when I went off and I lost my shit. I'm like, you guys are so disgusting. Like, how are you so disgusting and creepy? And that's when I was just like so sick to my stomach and I was so over it. I was just like, these guys are the worst. And obviously my trauma is like nothing compared to yours. So when I saw your story and heard your thing, I was just like, how does he get away with it? And those girls too. Those girls that I was at that apartment and we left and all stuff like that. I was just like,

How does he get away with this stuff over and over, specifically to girls? And I think when it happened to you, you're this guy now. You're like the bros with them. You have genuine friendships. And it was just so interesting to see the turn, how they were all so close. He's in your documentary showing up to the hospital for you. And then all of a sudden the turn. Well, that's the Kool-Aid shit. That's the Kool-Aid stuff because –

Like, I was there that night when you got checked in, you know? Yeah, that's right. I was outside, though, in the waiting room. I just heard what was going on. Why? Why? But if they say... So if you were at your boys and they're like, oh, this person's crazy, you know, like, they need to be banished or whatever, you just believed that at the time. Is that what they said that night? I had to be... I needed to really see things for what it was. Like, I mean, I'm almost embarrassed of it looking back, like, saying, like, oh, yeah, this didn't happen, this didn't happen, but...

if you look at Dom and you listen to all the other girls that have allegations against him, like it's not a coincidence, you know? So he was so creepy. Yeah. Always. Everyone. I mean, Briley Reed has talked about it, how she was like, you know, not wanting to do it and they tried to push her. Yeah. And all I said on the podcast, cause he made an apology video where like he cried and stuff like that. It was like, I can't believe I'm not like a,

going to discredit anybody but like after i put out my thing and then i put out mine and i was like yo they knew about this shit they knew about it the like week after and we were never told and we're putting those videos too our faces are in those videos like we're we're all you know a part of this now and nobody told us so i brought dom on my show i had him on the barbershop show if i would have known he were doing shit like that you know i would have absolutely never associated with him still to this day i have friends that screw up i can cut them off

I don't associate with them. I don't care how funny they are, what they do for my videos. If they, if you fuck up and you do some weird shit like that, I, I,

I distanced myself, you know? And I made a video saying like, yeah, I realized, you know, that, that, you know, they knew about this and I don't like that. I don't fuck with that. Like that's, you know, now I'm going to make my decision, you know, based off that I'll probably take a step back. And then Natalie called me the next day. She's like, David saw your video. He's not going to like that. You fucking delusional. You are insane. You know, Jelaine. Yes. You know? No, I, I.

That's a whole other thing, my issue with Natalie. People are like, why do you hate her so much? I'm like, oh, she is. She's like rotten, rotten. I didn't talk to any of them. When the documentary came up, I would get a call 10 times a day because they would want to come edit it. They want to come see the cut before it went out. Oh, wait, we need this to line up with the case, like if anything comes out. Manipulation, I can't wait. I'm telling you, Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, part two. Do you think it'll go to trial? I hope.

I would love for it to. Which is like usually like anyone who would do it for clout or whatever, which is not, you should get paid and compensated for your whatever, usually would just want a settlement. But the fact that you like want to go to have trial and have this all come out, like I think that says like a lot about your like story. You know what I mean? I'm not going to lie. It does piss me off when I see comments of people don't know shit, but you can't let that really get to you. You know, like people will say stuff that I'll read and I'm like, fuck, and I wish I could just come out right now. But, you know, you just got to eat it and wait for the time. Patience. Well, yours is just such a crazy subject.

story like it to me is the most mind-blowing when I was watching your documentary and you're there just with your eyes covered in the hospital and stuff like that I'm just like how like how did this just like it became like another like cancellation thing and it was just like that's it we're over it you know what I mean I'm just like this is such a serious thing like affected your whole life yeah yeah yeah yeah and then uh afterwards like with the whole thing that you're talking about like how did it go were you guys still friends and all that like

I didn't want to have to cut everyone off, you know, but he made it like that. Like I had a barbershop episode planned with Oliver Tree and he wanted Nick there. He wanted Jonah to be there for the episode. So I was like, it shouldn't be an issue. You know, like this was after TMZ put it out that, you know, now we're fighting out in court. And Jonah was like, yeah. He was like, yeah, yeah, I'll be there. Cool. And then I get a call back an hour later and he's like, no, Dave said I can't do it.

And I was just like really hurt by that because I love that kid. You know, I love his family. I really looked at him as a real friend. You know, like he moved into my old apartment. We lived next door to each other. We would cook food together. If I was going through something, he'd bake me cookies. You know, like we had a real friendship. And to hear that, I was like, okay, that's how this game is. I just got to learn to take my emotions out of this and just find real people to hang out with and just fucking get over it. But yeah.

You know, those are people, not just friends in real life. They're my content people. Like I film with them. So now I got to rebuild everything. Do I even want to do social media anymore? Like do I want to? It makes you not want to when you leave such a big dynamic like that. Cause I got hate that whole year. Just constant, like one thing after the other for, for what? And I was with someone before that. You know what I mean? I was with Shane. I was with all these people. So I'm just like, why are people associating me with this like random, like young kids that I like barely knew for like a year, you know? It was so weird. Yeah. It is crazy that like your whole career, like one thing like that can happen in like

all that hate yeah it is crazy but i've survived enough where i've like partnered up with people where it's like up and then down and up and down and i'm just like okay like i'm so i like just trish because i'm like you know what my last one went to shit too with colleen i'm just like let me not collab with anyone anymore it always just goes to shit just such a flex because it's all you need like you know just trish is such like it's exactly what you need you don't need a co-host oh thank you can i ask just like a selfish question like what would you and colleen even have podcasted about like what did you guys talk about c-sections

scars I think that's what we talked about every episode which is like giving birth and I mean it's like interesting I guess to a certain degree but that's all we talked about every episode because you don't want to talk about like drama or stuff like that but I was just like okay I don't know honestly I was just like wanting to podcast again and I kind of partnered with her because she had a podcast so I was like

I didn't know how to get ad reads. I mean, now I figured it out, but I didn't know at the time. So I was like, maybe I'll partner with her, you know, and that's why we offered to build a set in our house, do all this stuff, you know, to make it work. Um, cause I thought, Oh, she'll get the ad reads. But then at the end of the day, she didn't, she's like, well, I don't want to like risk like losing my ad reads because you're problematic. And I was just like,

okay. So we just didn't have ad reads and I tried to get it for us. And then we got the deal. Like you weren't keeping any part of her career alive. Like that's so wild. Like other than like six year olds who like don't know. Well, I didn't, I just didn't know. I wasn't friends with her like that either. So I just didn't know clearly that's the severity. I just knew nothing about her. I never collabed with her as Miranda. Like nothing. But I missed podcasting cause like, you know, I just didn't do anything for a couple of years. And podcasting is great. It's so fun. It's so fun.

It's fun. I feel like it's like the new wave. I try to ride these waves. Like vlogging was a big thing, but no one vlogs. I love vlogging, but no one vlogs anymore. Me too. I'll always like love it and just like want to vlog, but it's not the main driver anymore. I'm like, no one's watching these. You know what I mean? I watch. I watch them all. You're one of my 10,000 viewers, which is fine. 10,000 is a lot, honestly. I'll take it.

Just queen of the no edit. I was telling him in the car, like, just the... It's so iconic. It's really impressive how you can not edit and still crush it, and your videos will, like, take off. And you don't... That's... It's just great. You don't have to try. You just fucking put the camera up and do it. That's kind of my whole life. Yeah, not trying anything. Just doing the damn thing. Yeah. Like, your vlog, so you don't really have to put in, like...

A lot of editing work. I just watched your vlog in the car, though, and I was like, damn, like, I, like, fart and upload it. And, like, your vlog of us in New York was, like, a cinematic masterpiece. You edit so much. And that's why I'm missing Dancing with the Stars, because we're sitting there editing. I should be out there, you know? That's why we're, you know. More drama shit? Should we get back into the juicy drama? I don't know. I've heard too much. When people talk about, like, the situation, and they call it drama, like, it's YouTube drama. Well, yeah. Like, this shit ain't drama. And the grown men, like, interviewers, I saw, like...

Jason did an interview with a guy from Forbes and he's like, yeah, I like how you stay out of the Jeff drama. Like, motherfucker, you call this shit drama? Yeah. What did he say to it? I don't even, I don't think it's a big deal. I think people pick up on things like that, like I do, you know? Let's get your shit together, Tom. No, but it's definitely not.

definitely not drama yours is definitely not drama and that's that's what pisses me off too when people say or like the colleen stuff it's like that's not drama like there's people that are hurt by it it's just real life shit but your life is in the public so people take it as like drama which is so crazy to me yeah or they just look at it as like because you're talking about it like they're like oh my god jeff willens shut up about it you know but it's like this is something that like affected your like life yeah yeah yeah that's another thing i try to avoid talking about it but this podcast obviously we're gonna dive right into i mean this kind of thing you should never ever stop i'm always telling him that i'm like literally like

You were just saying he's just about to get a surgery or like a surgery opportunity came to him where he could have his full vision back, but it's 50% guaranteed that you could have. Like some Beverly Hills neuro optometrist. The guy's like a genius. But it's 50-50. Like you lose all your vision in your eye, you get it all back. And I was like trying to get him to talk about it. He's like, I don't want to bring it up. My whole face, like if you look, it's like dented in on this side. You know, you see like if I look like that, you notice that the eye's fucking off. So they're just supposed to push it forward. But when you're doing shit like that, like if

if you snip it, that optic nerve snips, then it's completely gone. Never comes back. You can never reattach that, you know? So that's why you can't like pop your eye out and put it back in ever, you know? Because it's, yeah. Once that's done, it's done. So your eye is crazy. Now that I'm looking at it. Maybe you could have like a cunty glass eye. Yeah. I was thinking about that. Like, Oh yeah. Is this your real eye? Is this your real eye? Yeah. Yeah. Nothing.

not to like minimize it like oh you didn't lose an eye but like did it detach no no no the retina detached in one surgery but but you were like if this like triggers you like tell me to stop talking about it but you were like hanging like upside down at the end of it no that don't trigger me yeah I got like

It like sliced into my leg, the rope. Like that scar from the rope. What? Were you just unconscious up there? Were you just like, you can't remember it? I like to say no. That's like the bro-y answer. Like, no, I didn't fucking even get knocked out by that crane. You know, but I was fucking out. Oh my gosh. I got KO'd for a second. Yeah, it was like a TKO. What's the last thing you remember? Yeah. Yeah.

Screaming, no, no, no. What the fuck? Like screaming like I'm going to die. Did you think you were going to die? Yeah, fuck yeah. Yeah. For that moment, yeah. And even after like when I got out, I was like, holy shit, this eye is not working anymore. I was like, what the fuck? Is that going to come back? And I was like walking over and I remember saying to like,

She just reminded me. Mariah's very sweet, too. She always had my back. She was a sweetheart. She was like, I just said to her, I was like, oh, I got fucking rocked. I don't know. I was just saying stupid shit. But no, we got pulled over on the way to the hospital, and we got, like, the cops saw my face. There was blood leaking down, like a flap of skin hanging over. And he was like, just go, go, go, go. Wait, you weren't in an ambulance on the way? No, because we just had to go. They thought I was dead. I was pale white. Who was carrying you? Who carried you into the car?

I was like this, like, you know. That's crazy. It was so crazy. You don't know how bad this shit's going to be. Like, I was trying to swim up, and I was like, why can't I swim back up? I didn't realize that my leg was hooked in. You know, I was like, did I lose a limb? I was like, am I alive? And, you know, like, you're playing all these thoughts in your head. You don't know what happened. You don't know how severe the damage was, you know. Yeah, I'm shocked. I'm shocked nothing, like, more severe happened. Like, you didn't lose something because you were, like, hanging there, or your leg snapped or whatever.

think something happened. Yeah, like that leg would have snapped off or something. They could stitch that back on if the leg, or I don't know actually. That's true, I guess, but did you like after that accident, were you just like trying to find God or find a reason or something? Like, well, how did you heal from, like mentally, how do you heal from something like that? Like losing your looks, you know what I mean? Yeah, thanks Trisha. No, I mean that, like you're a nice

for like your pretty face. Now you don't have it. I'm not gonna lie. Like, I didn't know you well before, but do you feel like it kind of humbled you and like, I think you look the same. I think you look amazing, but I just mean like. Same. I wanted to say that too. I didn't mean you're like ugly now. I'm just saying like.

Pretty boy like nothing had happened. Yeah, for sure. It gives you some grit. It humbles you a little. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I needed it. I needed it. Well, looks fade anyway, you know? It's inevitable. Yeah. People are going to get old and you're not going to be good looking forever. So you better figure some shit out, you know? David was so obsessed with you being good looking. He was so obsessed. I remember when he first, because you came in like my last few months and I remember you, me and David Byer.

ourselves went to do a tree thing. Do you remember that? I remember it. Yeah. Like a Christmas tree. He's like, go jump through a Christmas tree, like wrapping, like the thing they wrap Christmas trees in. And they had like Jeff go, it was the most bizarre thing. So let's go back to this disfigured, uh,

That was just such a funny question because I've never – like you two are just real and raw. I love that. I love that about you two. Like you'll say some shit like that. Nobody else will say that. Yeah. Okay. So about your disfigured face, did you – how do you like heal from it? Are you just like, okay, I'm not going to be that hot young guy anymore. I'm just going to be a little cool.

cool like i have a story fucking ate me up for a while i was like now i can't even be funny i can't ever do shit again i can't put a camera in my face i was like insecure about your identity and confidence yeah it still does it still does i have bad eye days where like i just got to record a brand deal and i can't do it i'll have can you see how many fingers i have yeah yeah yeah i could it does get scary sometimes so we'll be like driving in the car you drive you drive yeah i drive this eye is perfect this eye is good okay cover can you cover that one or no

What does that mean? Okay, how many fingers? Okay, now it's like, it's blurred, but I can still tell. You can tell? Yeah, yeah, I can still tell. I can't see at all. If I go like that, I can't see you from here. Wait, what, you can't? No. How many fingers? I just see like two of you. Oh my God.

Oh my God, that's like so sad. Holy cow. But let's talk about the disfigured face because vision, nobody knows. Nobody could really tell like that my vision's fucked up. They kind of see a little something. Yeah, but I did have a moment where I was like really bummed out. I was like just staying in my house, not talking to anybody. I didn't want to answer anybody. And then I was like, you know what?

I got fucking money, you know? I'll just go to fucking... I went to Rodeo Drive. I went to all the shops, like Saint Laurent, Gucci. I bought all these sick sunglasses. And that was, like, the step that, like, got me out of the house doing shit again. And I was like, I could film content with glasses on. And now I'm like, all right, now I don't give a fuck. Because the story's out and everybody knows the deal, you know? But...

Who were you going out there? Who were you going with at the time? Who was your friends at that time? I went with myself to Rodeo just for that. Oh, my gosh. I got sick of those green sunglasses that I was wearing in the dock. How were you making money back then? You said you were making a lot of money. The barbershop was always. So you were doing that simultaneously while you were in David's Logs? Yeah, yeah. I was doing it before I even met David. Oh, you were? I didn't know that. That's how they found me. They found me. Oh, the Episcopal.

episode that you were in the Taylor Holder one really because I really fucked with him there wasn't really anything like that on YouTube or I like purposely made people uncomfortable and it was just like non-stop like joke joke joke and

And they were like, was that shit real? Because we fought. We had a boxing match in the video. And I was just drilling him. We called Tana. And I made him confess his love for Tana. Oh, my gosh. Is this trolling or is this real? It was mostly trolling. So you trolled. I completely trolled Tana. I didn't know you at all. But yeah, I know. Because I talked to you on it. And I was like, damn, who was that? You remember that? Did I say that? I don't remember, really. Or maybe I was instigating. I don't know. It was kind of fucked up to you, too. You got dragged into it. You had some crossfire. You got hit with in that joke. I apologize for that. Aw.

Yeah. I feel like so many people owe Tana an apology. Like, I know you're, like, such a cool chick and you're down for everything, but there's so many times I'm just like, can you not be so, like, using as a punching bag? Like, you're so smart. You made so much money. Like, who cares? But it's also, like, so sad sometimes. I do think about that. Not...

not in my life now, I guess. Like, you know, the last like couple years when I think about like my early days, there's a lot of people who owe me a fucking apology. But we talked about that. Olivia Rodrigo just released a song like all about that. Like people needing to owe her an apology. Wait, really? Yeah. And she's like 20. That's crazy. But I was listening to that literally today. But we talked about that on our episode. Like the second I'm done with everything, I'm releasing a fuck you book. Yeah. And I can't wait. You so need to.

Like, and everyone's just... That'll be my apology to myself. Yeah. How are you? How did you, like, mentally, like, stay sane through all this? Because I would have been, like, on crack if I were you and you. I would have been, like, doing... I really didn't until I was, like, probably, like, 23. You know? Yeah. Well, I just...

I'm really good at like pushing shit down and just keeping it pushing as well. But then I had like from 20, like 20 to 22, I was taking a lot of Xanax. Like I don't remember my reality show. I don't remember like all of that time at all. I was doing Xanax too. Yeah. It's that drug. Like if you want to run from your life, you know, it's, it's, and it's scary. It's scary as fuck too. Yeah, for sure. It's like, it's a really scary thing. If you like don't want to live in your reality, you just take that. Don't remember anything, you know. It's also like the non-scary drug. It's not like you're shooting it up or anything like that. You're kind of just like, let me just pop up

pill you know what i mean you don't really feel like a high you're just like you're just chilled out yeah yeah once it got like super bad i was like okay i have to stop this and you know i was taking so much xanax and pills and all that shit i saw a video where it was like you super young it was like tana mongu drives mongu was crazy it's literally mojo mojo drives did you say mongu i will i like read it differently than i pronounce it i don't know when i read it out it's like should be pronounced mongu

No? Like French? I want you to die. I'm getting the crane and I'm not taking Wittig. Would you take Wittig? No, you have to say Mojo. Maybe like a Kim Kardashian-Watt situation. You kind of blend them together. Mojo. Mojo. Mojo. Mojo sounds dope. That sounds expensive as fuck. Should I just change it? Mojo. Mojo.

I gave up maybe by 18 on the last name pronunciation. It's like someone banging their face on a keyboard. And I've heard everything in the world. You never wanted to change it? No. I was excited for it to be in a fake way Paul for a second because I was like, God, this is so nice. It's like Smith. Kind of Paul sounds dope. No, that's basic.

I think you're like one of them like you're the sister if you had that last Oh my god, I was kidding like you could be related to those jokes are just so easy and low-hanging fruit and I always make them and then after I make them I give myself the egg because it's like just don't make that fucking it's it's like you with the crane joke, you know Like my low-hanging fruit jokes. I just I give myself the egg. You guys could do a con together Could be like what are we doing together?

Con con. Con con. Oh my gosh. You're the con. Yeah. They were obsessed with that in the vlog squad too. They were so obsessed with you being like in prison or jail or whatever. I've only been arrested for weed. I'm still obsessed with that though. It's legal now. They acted like oh my god Jeff went to

prison and all that stuff. Well, I've been arrested a lot of times for weed and a lot of weed. And every time I was arrested, it wasn't like possession. It was like 10, 20 pounds. But, you know, it was always just for money, you know, and weed is a harmless drug. It just gets dangerous when, yeah, it just gets dangerous when the money, when there's a lot of money and a lot of cash involved. But I got arrested for weed. Yeah. They made it seem like it was so like intense and scary. Well, that's, I mean, I feel like that was the whole like character thing at the time. Like take the one thing and...

Right. Accentuated. Making their whole personality. He was like the shiny new toy. Towards the end of 2018 like oh it was all about Jeff. Like everyone was like obsessed with him. And we never talked. Like we just never ever talked. Like I would see you at things and like never ever talked. And I was like oh they really like this guy. I didn't really know all of that. I'm just washed up and disfigured. No. You're thriving. No it's actually amazing. That's

I was going to ask you because like, okay, so you were an influencer before David. You said you were like doing the barbershop before him. Yeah. Yeah. I always did the barbershop show. I kind of was always making videos around haircuts even back in like 2012, like when Twitter started. That's so great. So you were doing it on Twitter? Yeah, but I would put like a song in the background. Like I wouldn't talk in it, but I was always making those barbershop videos because I always cut hair and I always wanted to like

network and get new clients. I was cutting celebrities and I thought it was so cool because I moved from Staten Island and I was able to do all these things. Now I'm with Mac Miller, Wiz Khalifa on tour. Oh my gosh. I was cutting the Jersey Shore when the show blew up and I'm like this 18-year-old kid. How? How did you get that? Just word of mouth. So you'd be on Twitter and they hit you up or something? I met Big Sean that way. Wow.

Yeah, he just he was like i'm in miami I need a barber and people were just like oh This is the guy in miami when you're in miami beach because everybody goes to miami And when I got that job there, it was like just everything took off for me. You were 18 That was like 1920 when I moved there. Wow, that's crazy That's amazing to have an id to get in the clubs in miami But I was like working full-time at that barber shop Wow, and then you did that because you were on jersey short too, right? Like a episode of it just in the background like cutting their hair. I had like one line, but

Wait, you did get a line? That's amazing. She was the main character of the whole Never Live It Tower. If I had a line, I would be the main character. I was background in Modern Family Man. I was on the show, but if I had a line, I would be the main character. You're on every show. You're on every show. But that's why I feel like with you, if you're on all these shows, because you were on another one too, Bad Girls Club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of like that you're on all these shows too, because that's how you had to hustle back in the day. We're the same. We're not so different. Right. That's what I'm thinking too, because back in the day, you thought, this is my end. This is how I'm going to, for whatever you needed to get into. I thought I was going to marry someone like a rich,

guy or something. I'm like, oh, I gotta get on this show. Maybe they'll see me. I don't know. I guess your motive was to cut hair or something, but that was the way to get seen back in the day. Not to say you're my age. You're only 33. We'll get that.

Noted. We're the same. We do have very similar. That's what I was trying to tell you. I felt like you'd come here and have a realization that you guys would have more in common than you would think. And she's also just the queen. I'm shook by it too because I don't love a straight guy. Like I'm surprised I even married a straight guy. Like I really thought I was going to marry like a girl or something like that. Like I don't love straight bro energy. Did you actually think you were going to marry a girl?

Part of me did. Yeah. The sex part is, you know. Yeah. I don't know. That was hard. Yeah. It's just not the same. Or it wasn't hard. Yeah. But, yeah. But, yeah. I like a feminine energy type guy. You know what I mean? The bros are, like you said, like ride or die. Like, why were you, going back to this, why were you at the hospital that night? That's how I am. That's how I was. Because I remember.

I remember they said Jeff is coming and I'm just like, why? No, I waited out in the lobby. But David was there and I'm just like, why is everyone coming to this? We were just rolling together. We were just out shooting. But why don't you guys wait in the car?

I think it was going to be a while. It definitely wasn't. They were there 10 minutes like, okay, bye. I think you should just like really just say he, you know, like. I didn't know. We were filming. We were just driving around filming. And then, you know. That's crazy. We were just driving around filming. It's like, let's get a Starbucks.

like parking. We would just go look for jokes and content. Yeah. That's why I'm saying that's crazy. We went there, but no, did he have his camera? He did hold it. He wasn't recording it, but he did. He did have it. So I knew you guys were already. Someone was filming to me. No, you're like, I'm so high on everything. Like I didn't know. Like I was screaming my head off. They had a shoot with out of van. Cause as soon as I saw David and Jason, I started like running. So I like, that sounds fun. They shackled my, me down because I was just like, and then David left. Cause I, he like triggered the F out of me.

And I think, you know, who knows what that other guy did. I would love to just go to like an expensive rehab for like a month. I always say this. What kind of rehab? Mental rehab? But like a celebrity one, like the ones that they just go and, you know, like the one Pete Davidson's in and out of all the time. Like a Malibu. Yeah. Like we ride a horse. They're expensive. Well, you guys can afford it. There's definitely like ketamine in the pharmacy if you needed it. Yes. Right. It'd be so fun. It'd be so fun. People get healed from those, definitely for sure. I would go to like Alhambra. Yeah.

was like this like free one they put you when they force you in that one really yeah and i was like in there i was always so scared like there's so many times in my life where i needed rehab so bad and just didn't go because i was scared no i'm never bad you never had diy did though like you get a little airbnb far away and it's like diy at home do you ever do therapy or anything yeah i've done like a lot of therapy but i need to get back into it now we just do too many podcasts he thinks podcasts are therapy i swear to god they kind of are they

They are in a weird way. I feel that way too. I'm like, this is my therapy right now. But no, it's obviously like. That's how I feel with Brooke every week. Like getting to just talk about like. Well, you guys is very therapeutic because you're like friends and you guys just talk about stuff. Yeah. Like we were more cracking jokes about like the public and random shit and whatever. But Brooke and I all like kind of delve into like our dating lives and random like shit. What happened to your guys' podcast?

the friends with benefits. I think I like trademarked everything. I thought it was like going done. Yeah. We're going to ride that frenemies wave. We're going to take that. Very opposite, but yeah. No, that could have been huge. That could have been so big. I think that I was just going back into canceled and it like,

I thought I could take it all on at least. And you were the first one. Like, I was still so down. You were like, Tana, listen, cancel's gonna take up so much of your time and all this shit. Like, let's wait until the right time. He was right. We just said, like, let's get cancel going for you again because she was in, like, a shit deal before that. Yeah.

that's what so many podcasters do. They think that they need to be in like an agency or you need some sort of like scumbag producer or something, but you can just do it like this. Look at Moses. You got your husband. Just, he's not going to fuck you over. You know, he's not going to rob you. That's so true. And he did. The reason why canceled came back so amazing and so fluently, I fully accredit to Jeff. He like gave me his whole team and I work with them. Like all the people who produce canceled, like even the ones you met are his team essentially, or,

You don't need somebody like taking all your money and then paying you out for it. Just get it going yourself. Like the fact that they're my friends and they like, they care about the show and care about me. And I, you know, it's, it's great. Oh my God. So that's crazy. So you, your people, your production team. So you guys were just like, okay, we'll do friends with benefits, like a different time.

Well, just like how I said she pulled me out, like got me shooting again. Like I didn't know if I was going to continue doing it. Like, you know, I also owe her for, you know, getting me going again on the podcast because I, who knows? I'm going to stop doing that shit. I'm motivated by like,

You know, competition or revenge. I'm very petty. That's two different things. Competition or revenge. Well, both of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm very petty. So like when I see people wanting to banish me and like, you know, oh, that guy's crazy. Fuck him. Let him follow up. It motivates me more to do more. Like I want to fucking make it more now, you know? Was that their MO for you when all that happened? Was that you were crazy or what was the way that people get to you? It's MO for everybody that gets banished.

banished and some people you know deserved it but you know look at us yeah but I think that it's like you need to give yourself more credit it was valid because you did get pushed into that you know like it's not like exactly you just went crazy on your own you know how many nights I wanted to go back and drink like

Really thought about it cuz I stopped drinking right before I like started hanging out with everybody which was crazy because so much of their content was getting drunk and partying and I had to adapt to that new lifestyle and I was like ready to fucking blow it all I was like, what's the point of even not drinking? I got half a face, you know, let me just fucking But no, I saw David in Vegas like six months ago or like four months ago and

That's the thing. I see my memory, you know, like I know it was around. Was it around like four? Yeah. So I just got pissed off seeing him around at parties, you know, like after hearing what the courts are saying, like they just try to dismiss shit and just fucking call you batshit crazy. So I was like, yo, if you're going to be out here doing that, you can't do that. Like pick one or the other. It's either going to stay in hiding and make those lies and accusations or don't come out to parties that you know them. Like I was clearly there. It was like an influencer event or what? How did... Yeah. Yeah.

It was like a Vegas, like just, you know, I was there with Mike and a bunch of people. So I pull him aside. Let's just have a talk. You know, like it's probably not, you're not supposed to do that, but I don't give a fuck. I got nothing to hide. So he was like, I know why you're talking about you or why you're talking about me. You want me to respond? And I was like,

I'm talking about myself and shit. I'm living with you, narcissist. Fuck. You think I'm talking about you to get a response? Yeah, do respond. He said that? Respond. Yeah. That's what they... They think they're higher, like above people because you can't talk about shit. I was like literally engaged. You're just not talking about it because you've got shit to hide. You know you'll get caught up in a lie. That's why you're not talking. So did he end up paying for all your hospital bills?

That's going to be fun when we get to that in trial. Because Natalie said yes, they did. And he said yes, they did. And you were like, no, my credit sucks. I can't wait to expose Natalie's lies. She's next level. Like crazy shit. That's something I want to avoid because it's a big part of the case. Yeah, she's scary. But yeah, the truth will come out. Because you said your credit tanked. You couldn't buy a house or something like that.

It did affect my credit. Yeah, it wasn't like it completely crushed my credit. I was able to fix it. I'm coming back. But yeah, I did fuck up my credit. It was annoying, you know, but there's something to that that I really can't get into. And I know it sounds like I'm trying to not talk about it, but it's like a heavy piece of evidence that...

is a big part of why the case is going on. No, save it. Save it because you're doing such a smart thing. Like just so many people are either they can't, they usually can't afford it. And people going against someone like David who has so much money, like that's why people don't sue. Yeah, it's scary as fuck to sue someone like that. I like can't sue anyone because I'm just like... It costs so much because... And I have such a strong case because it's all out there, you know, it's on video. And...

The lawyers will take it pro bono if they believe in you. Is yours? Yeah, they just take a cut. That's amazing. A big cut, but it's, you know, at least I don't have to. It's millions of dollars. Because they could, honestly, he's got me there. He could keep spending money and get the best lawyers and just drag me out. But not in this case because these guys are like. Wow.

The whole firm is backing me up because, you know. That makes me so happy because that's what I was worried about because every time that happens, if you sue someone with more money, they do it just so you like go broke. Like it'll just happen. Like the people who always and someone like David will just like drain you for sure. He'll just keep it going for a long time. So you just can't afford it anymore. It's stressful. Like I have to talk to the lawyers a lot. But, you know, I'd rather be doing what I'm doing than having to pay and just keep paying and paying and paying and pushing. Oh, for sure. It'll probably get pushed years, you know.

wait really so what like realistically like how long can he push you can't just keep dismissing things and stuff like that you have to like eventually go to trial right yeah I hope so um oh my gosh we can show up and be in the jury and wear like cute matching blazers that's crazy I don't think we can be in the jury not the jury what's the other thing be in the jury could you imagine we're like do you have any bias against him we're like no no idea who he is

Like in the audience. I don't know what it's called either. Is it the audience? What is the thing? Yeah, the audience. The audience of it. That, I would go. I would go to your trial for sure. Oh my God. We would look so good. Didn't he hire Johnny Depp's lawyers or something like that? No, no. He's got some fucking guy that he's like a big shot. But also, he's also got his allegations on him too. You know, like I can't wait for that. I want to represent myself in there. Maybe don't do that. Just have Ted Bundy over here. Back to Frenemies. Yeah. Fuck.

You go in there and be like, I'm the same way. I'm always like, oh, I really would want to, but... Like that position and shit, like when you're in those rooms and they ask you all those questions, like I can't wait for them to dig and try to get me to fucking like make me uncomfortable and stuff because...

I'm already ready. I have a response for everything. I play this out every day. A lot of these people try to put it behind them and act like it never happened, but I can't. That kind of thing you can't. My stuff, okay, it's a bad breakup, whatever, put it behind. But this is something that you just can't physically every day can't see. You're paying all these hospital bills, all this stuff's happening. Also the trauma, also the way people look at you, your reputation, all that stuff like that.

I don't think it's as bad as it could have been. You really could have been tanked. And luckily, there's so many people that just see the truth and they're just like, oh, shit. And that's the first time it happened with David, by the way. You're the first one where people just started looking like, oh, wait, what about this, this, and this? Because you came out with your story and people were like, oh, maybe he is kind of a shit person. So I think that was good. I think that was a big thing. I owe you a big thank you for that. I mean it when I say that. Actually, you had my back. You opened my eyes. My eye. You opened my eye. Yeah.

Well, I know. I just, I felt like it's just one of those things where you're just like, how can you just keep getting away with this? And this was such a big thing. And it was, it was kept under wraps for how long? Like six or seven months, right? Probably a good year. Yeah. A year. Cause it was like June of 2020. Yeah. And it was like, you came on in like February, 2021. So it was like a long time.

June 25th. I'm like, if this gets swept under the rug, like it's crazy. And like I said, maybe it was like more selfish too because I was like, this needs to be like exposed. This is like crazy. Yeah. I was just never trying to be like a guy that's like on Tosh.0 for one of those videos. And that's like the last thing. Like imagine I did really quit after that, you know, and that's just the last thing I'm remembered for, you know? Yeah. So good thing you didn't quit. Yeah. Would you take back anything like...

besides the excavator thing, but like, would you take back like anything differently? Like meeting David, like being in his vlogs or you're like, you know, if you would have asked me this back then, I would have probably said like, I'll take back going on, on, onto your, your as a show back then. But no, I needed that more than ever. Now I could really look back and see that. Like, I always bring up that,

like eventually terrible memories turn into great ones or like just bad things turn to good things. You know, it's just, you don't see it at the time when you're going through it. But now looking back, like that was actually, I thought it was the worst thing ever and it was the best thing for me to do.

And yeah, like I would take back the fucking accident obviously. But also if that didn't happen, then maybe I'd still be there and I wouldn't be happy with myself now. Or something worse happens or someone else. Because like even – remember Nick when Nick did the motorcycle thing? Were you there? Were you in that group? He did this like motorcycle thing and the motorcycle like – he literally like crashed his head into like cement or something like that. And I'm like everyone just like covered it up and like didn't say anything. I'm pretty sure it was Nick. I can't remember.

I don't know the names that well, but it's just crazy. Yeah, that's just not a sustainable lifestyle. Something was bound to happen. And it stopped. I mean, they really did stop after that. So in a way, it was like, thank God, you know what I mean? Because they were unstoppable for so long. Yeah. And I always think the same thing. I'm like, thank God. And imagine it had been Corinna. I always think about that because it was Corinna on the excavator first. Right. And she probably would have died. Which is crazy. Why would they let her, not to say, not to be misogynistic, but why would you let this girl on an excavator when like,

I guess you, they think of you as like this like daredevil, stunt guy, he went to prison or whatever. But like Corinna, like what? Corinna was on it for, yeah, I know. And it was fine. She'd be dead. If that happened to her, she'd be dead. Because she's a smaller girl. It would have crushed her skull. Yeah.

And, you know, it's just funny. Like, I don't watch any of their shit. Like, I have them all muted, you know. You didn't unfollow? Oh, I unfollowed. But, like, other people. Like, I don't want to unfollow certain people because they didn't do nothing wrong to me. You know, like, I can't blame them for sticking with, like, you know, they don't believe in themselves. I can't be mad at people because they don't have self-confidence to think they could do shit on their own, you know. Yeah.

Jason, he gave me a lot of opportunity. He would put me on stage, like, go open for me and all that stuff. Like, I'll forever be grateful for that. But you still don't even believe in yourself enough to try and do shit on your own. You think you need this guy and you'll stick with him even though you know that he did a lot of wrong shit, you know? And he wronged you. He literally quit your show. I don't give a fuck if you're not making money. You got played, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're literally just sitting there, like, taking all that. So...

You know, I don't like to talk about the other guys because they didn't really do anything wrong to me. They just stuck by him and he made it that you needed to pick a side. They go where the money goes. I feel like that's a lot of people too. But now the shit's all dried up. He ain't paying nobody. He's doing fucking Snapchats. Is that really – is that worth it for your career to try to be in the background of somebody's Snapchat? And he's not generous. No, he's paying people to like be in his Snapchat. No, fuck no. That's what I'm saying. Like you want to call me an employee? All right, cool. That's so weird he called you that. It's like where was my paycheck?

Where's my W-2? You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Well, going on a happier note then, what is coming up for you that you're just like excited about, like something that has nothing to do with your eye injury? You're not doing the podcast anymore. You're not getting married. Like what's something that you're like excited about right now that you're like? Thank you. That just crushed me. Well, I'm hoping for the wedding. Do you know what? Do you know what Amari told me that he like was so sad he can't be here to hear you say shit like that? I love Amari.

Amari. You're never going to find a wife or kid out of family. She'll say it's so kind and it's so c***. I'm just obsessed with that. I'm trying to end it positively. Yo, I'm only 33. I'm not ready for a relationship. Well, 34 in a couple months. I'm joking anyway. It's a meme. I should be in a relationship. Oh.

The barbershop show is steaming along nicely. We did another show, a partnership with HIMS, where they bought a season and they want to, you know, I'll continue that partnership with them. It's a massive partnership. They're a huge company. What happened to Axe Body Spray? Are they done with you? I've been sponsored by a lot of those Old Spices, Axe. Oh, Spice. But you remember they like dropped you or something, right? After the accident, yeah, because I couldn't get the content out in time because my face was all smashed up, which I, there was a lot of other stuff that happened between them and I took things like that personal, which I probably shouldn't have, but.

But yeah, then we had like a little beef or I was like Old Spice gives you lice and that caught on because it's such a funny saying. I live for Old Spice. Old Spice gives you lice. I like an Old Spice fragrance. They have good prices and stuff like that. Sponsored by Old Spice today. No, I have the product brand. Our shit's way better. Oh yeah, you have the Jeff. You gave it to Moses. That was so nice of you. I gave Moses the pomade. It's my favorite product that we have. It was our first one that we put out. It's, um,

yeah i love that that's what we need because i'm like you need to slick something you need something with his hair you know yeah yeah yeah so we're launching a hair oil next week like a healthy hair oil i'll send you a nice package this is actually good packaging you did this yourself this is so hard to start a brand like a brand like that like a lot of money yeah it costs a lot of money but i believe in it and that's what i've always wanted to do like before youtube before anything so when i finally got in a position to oh i could just sell this shit online it's good

Yeah. Yeah. So that's something that's going on in the show and the HIM show and podcast is great, you know? The podcast is still going strong because you said you might not do it. No, I didn't. At the time, I was like, should I just fucking fuck all this shit, you know? Yeah. But no, it's doing great now. I love it. Just as much.

Even now, I just lost the studio and I'm doing better than ever. I feel better than ever. I feel free. I want to move to New York. Oh my gosh, is that tea? Can we say that, that you guys are moving to New York? That you're getting an apartment together? Yeah. I don't know if we'll get an apartment together. We're talking about that. She wants to move in this really nice building. It's super bougie. I want to get a place in Soho because I want to open a barbershop in Soho.

And I want to have like a flagship shop. There is a lot of stuff that I'm... That's your man, you know? He's trying to make a living for you guys and you're like... What? Is that lame? Is haircuts lame? No, I just want the bougie apartment. Where's the bougie apartment at? It's in the Lower East Side. It's actually not in a bougie area. It's just a bougie apartment. I'm obsessed with it. It's like in the middle of the projects and there's just one 80-story building. That's everything though, yeah. For the price, it's everything because you get this nice-ass building because of the air.

Like yeah, I take top people and they go like a room this big, you know So it's like if you have a big bougie thing in New York, that means you're like made it for sure. Yeah Yeah, I should get the bougie one Yeah, you're right. I want you to be a Plunge in the building, you know, you want I already checked it out cold plunge in the building I'll be in I'll be in that shit all day long just sitting in like a hot tub They say you should start your day with a cold plunge. Mm-hmm. Never I would be so angry. Oh

Wait, why? They said it's supposed to refresh you. I'm like a cat, like a black cat. Like the idea of starting my day like underwater sounds A, miserable, and B, it's so cold. Yeah. The idea of trying it. That's why I've never been your type. No, but our opposites attract. You're the yin and the yang. Exactly. And you just have so much like love and like respect for each other. And I feel like that's just not around in hetero couples these days. You know what I mean? Like the respect is never there.

The way he texted like say the say the words you said again you were just like yeah I really like found the one in her or something Which one is lying today we have like three you're like you were like I love you guys together, and I was like yeah, she's incredible I'm so lucky that I found her

Done. We're besties, I swear to God. No, it's not. But I appreciate the ultimate. She's the ultimate. We don't have a ship name. Hetero couple. Tep is cute. I love Tep. That's our podcast name. Friends or benefits. Hetero couple. Oh my God, yes. That's like not annoying. You know, I feel like so many hetero couples podcasts that are so annoying. I'm just like, okay, we're over it. Because I like the like, I don't know, the chemistry of it all. You guys are going to New York together. Yeah.

I just think it's so cute. Would you do an artificial baby or would you try to go the way, the vaginal way? Artificial as hell. Or not at all. Maybe through like a glory hole, you know? If it was like through a hole. You can't do that. That's a mouth. Then we won't even, oh, it's for the mouth. You can't get pregnant in the mouth. Maybe some sort of like through. You put a vagina up to a glory hole? That's a thing? Wait. So you just don't want to look at her, but you would put it in? No. Okay.

What if that scars us? Like we can't podcast anymore. We can't make eye contact ever again. Now I already feel like it happened. Like we can't make eye contact. Sincerely. No, there's no, the thought of fucking you. She was there for your surgeries. No one else was up there with you. You know what I mean? Mike was there. Kyle was there. Oscar was there. You know, everybody was there. My whole crew was there. I swear we are actually besties and I love it.

I like really do think if we like tried anything else, we'd kill each other. Like we're just, we're very different as much as we are very alike. And I think our friendship is awesome. What's your, your signs of Gemini? Cancer. Oh, your end of June? Yeah. Okay. And you are? I don't know. Sagittarius. I don't know. Oh yeah, your December, your December. Yeah. Your Christmas baby. Oh,

kind of makes sense though because you're actually really sensitive like kids are really sensitive and emotional so it is it i mean it's inevitable it's gonna happen stars oh my god i'm a taurus you're a taurus bull you know what i mean taurus men suck right taurus men suck yes taurus women what are you moses scorpio okay which is crazy is that january october okay it's halloween halloween you don't you don't do astrology you're not an astrology person no i'm not at all you're

Really? Yeah, I don't know much. You'd think I would be, you know, because I love some delusional shit. A little delusional, yeah. I remember being so in love at one point and like people would say my signs were so compatible with this person. I'd be like, oh, it's in the stars. But like, no. Oh, I feel like the stars do align. Like there's like, I'm very like spiritual now. I believe in like the universe and like shit like that. You know what I mean? And synchronicity and all that. I've just never gotten into astrology. Unless I want to have sex with a girl, I'll pretend.

Because they're really into that shit. They're like, oh yeah, I'm really into that. But the universe wants everyone to win, including you. I feel like the universe, you may think, has dealt you a lot of like, what are they

What do they call them? No, I'm not looking for sympathy. Like, I genuinely feel good. Like, all this shit. I'm most happy. That's what I was going to say. I'm most happy when I'm uncomfortable. Like, right now with all this shit, like, I have no house and I'm happier than ever. No, but I feel like you've always been like that, like, through everything. Because did you lose your dog, Nerf? Yeah. And you were so, like... That hurt. That was my boy. That hurt. I know. And it's, like, at that time, because that was after the accident, right? That was... And so you're just going through one bad thing after one bad... And then you said, oh, my studio's flooded. I was just like, oh, my God.

Yeah, I can't look at that scene where I'm like crying when I lost the vision when the retina detached and I walk out of the room and I was genuinely over everything. Like I was like, fuck, my fucking life's over. So if you lose your vision, it's really fucking bad. Like they'll do surveys where they're like, would you rather wake up dead, which I know that's not a real thing, or wake up blind?

And most people just say dead. Just like kill me. So I know it was just one side, but at the time I was like, this is going to fucking fuck up everything. And then I walked out and he followed me out, my boy. And he was blind himself.

at that time but he just went off senses and where he followed me out yeah but that really hurt but we get we give him a real nice memorial like we give him a skydiver's funeral where we went up in a hot air balloon and we spread his ashes and it was sunrise so it looked like he beamed right into heaven and then we jumped out after i because i have my skydive license from that you know oh yeah we didn't get into this i mean we were supposed to wrap it up here but i just have to ask you real quick we're doing another show oh that's right but what was the skydiving era like what

- So, yeah, yeah. So David was doing that big comeback video and he had like different things. Like this could be your thing. Like if you want to do the skydiving part, like this, there was like another fucking slingshot thing or something.

I was like, you know what? I hate heights. I'll do that because I want to get over that fear. Like, I want to push myself. Wasn't there a point, though, where everyone had to get their license and they were, like, jumping out of a plane for David every day, but he was just, like, at home? Yeah, that was us. He never jumped out? No. I mean, he did after because I was like, yo, it'll mean a lot to me if you, like, experience this skydiving, like, almost dying. After your accident? Yeah, because you feel like you're almost going to die. You know, jumping out of a plane, you have that. After the accident? Wait.

After the accident, yeah. I mean, I did say that's what I wanted, but really I wanted it not to be blamed on me on a podcast or your whole audience attempted to fucking put it on me a year later. Did you plan on just cutting the parachute?

No, no, I just wanted him to like go through some shit, you know, but it didn't really work like that He had like a bunch of guys jump with him like normally you just get one instructor He had like three and they were like all holding on me making sure like real treatment, you know, but I'm just fucking fly out by himself Have you no no. Oh my god. I would have a heart attack just like

thinking about it. I don't think you take so much Xanax that it would defeat the purpose. I wouldn't remember it. Oh my god, if you take Xanax, you'll probably just not know to land. Don't you have to land with your feet or something? You gotta land with your feet, yeah. Oh, heck no. That part scares me. People break their legs and stuff, and I just would be like... I feel like there's a weight limit to falling out of a plane. I feel like you just go faster if you're heavier. You just fall down quicker. No way. Yeah, I think so. Well, yeah, there is, but you're not over... Gravity. No, you're not over that. I'm just saying. If you push yourself out of a plane and push me out of a plane, I'm gonna fall faster. I'm gonna

I'm going to go to the ground harder than you are. No, my friend's 250 pounds. Yeah, he'll – How tall? He's like 6'2". Okay, so he's big. I'm 250 and I'm 5'3", so I'm going to hit harder. No, no. And he like – No. He would – No. You're not – no, you're not 250 pounds. Yeah, I'm pretty close. Not too far off. Yeah, 240. He's just like – I don't know. He's just like an awkward shaped guy. And one time he jumped out and his –

One time he jumped out of the plane and his parachute hit the door. So it like opened right in the plane. He's just such a klutz. Oh, that's my biggest fear. Oh my God. Because he's...

bigger people are just... Because he's a big guy, yeah. I mean, I'm clumsy too. That would happen to me. I'm so clumsy. But imagine like your parachute gets caught in the plane and you're just getting yanked by this thing. Wait, so I'm so confused. His big comeback video was like a jackass that I think where everyone has to do something crazy. Yeah, it never came out because he almost killed a guy. You. You know? Yeah. Tag yourself. Oh my God. Dan, and you weren't a part of this. No, I like...

Honestly, way before the accident, I just, we just kind of, I had stopped being in the vlogs. I don't know. I remember at one point too, he like would say like, I don't want to film with you as much because of like the, all the, he didn't like the Paul brothers and that was like a whole thing. And then we just kind of like went our separate ways anyways. Yeah, it's funny. That's so weird. Yeah, he never did. I remember I went over it. Don't do impulsive, like nah, like no vlogs, but I'm going to do unimpulsive. That was the rule. And now I'm going to fuck it.

third host. Wait, is that real? I thought it was done. I thought it was over. I'll just pop in when they ask me to, which is like once a month. You should be the third host. A third host is always awful. I do like the Impulsive Boys. Their third hosts always suck. Yeah, but it's a lot to do the guest episodes. If it's just Mike and Logan, I'll do those all day. But to have another show that I've got to research a guest for, and then I'm going to look like a dumbass because I'm not trying. I always say that with guests. It's always hard when there's like

like they're three and I was on impulsive once and it was just like there's three people talking to you like it's just too hard like I want to talk to like one person you know what I mean it's hard it's like but that's interesting that would be good maybe you can revive that show for them if you're on it I'd watch it more I'm not no shade again I love them but yeah yeah I get it trust me I get it I see a lot of it oh my god so you I forgot about the skydiving there's so much oh my god there's so much more let's do another like can we take a 10 minute intervention yeah what are we what are you guys gonna do in 10 minutes

TikToks? Oh, okay. Drink some water? What are you thinking? I don't know. In the 10 minutes? Oh, you want to just like on a stretch? Yeah.

I'm not sure why. We're going to come back, do Jeff FM. I'm homeless right now. Thank you for giving me a studio to film in. Oh, my God. I love it. I know. I was trying to explain it to Moses. I'm just like, oh, we're going to switch. He's like, in the pink studio? And I was like, yeah, I think. I don't know. It's all I got right now. I love it. Where were you in the last one? Where were you guys in the last studio? In New York? Oh, we rent a place in New York. It's like a communal set that anybody could rent. You guys are so bougie. I love it. Oh, you're so funny. Look at you. Oh, my God. You guys are just the bougie lifestyle. We were literally in like...

in like the west wing of your house. Oh my God. Like we entered through a separate like. But you made this money not showing anything on O.F. I had to do hardcore everything with everybody. You know what I mean? Oh my God. I was just doing the most stuff.

got the lease. You know, we have to talk. I want to talk to you all about OF off camera. I have so many questions. When I said you need $10 million, I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, just not showing it. I'm like, oh, so amazing. People are stupid, dude. No, you can't. People are dumb as fuck. Like the feet pics, I don't even know, dude. I live for your, I'm subscribed. But I have to pay for everything. Everything is an unlocked. Oh my God. I'll just start sending it to you.

I love it. When he sent me the voice memos, I was loving it. No, this looks over your phone. He's like, what the fuck is Tana sending you right now? No, I love OF girls. Like, I really do. I think they're great. But they're just so... It's so fun. I just love nudes and everything like that. Yeah. More than anything. What about OF straight... No, ew. Hate it. I want to throw up. Like, honestly, like, I just... I'm so turned off by every straight man. Like, it's crazy.

I don't know. It's just like, as a man, why are you doing that? Like, just bro energy. When we started this interview and you were just like, yeah, you know, you got to be with the boys. I'm just like, right away, just no. Because I'm sorry, if a girl that I was close with did something, I'd be like, how compassionate. Did I say that? What was I talking about? You were talking about how like. I thought I started off by thanking you for. Well, maybe. I do. I'm a little delulue. I get things mixed up. No, but you did say something.

Oh, I like this. What is this? I feel so young when I met Tana. We went to Buffalo Wild Wings. She makes everything young. I feel the opposite. I feel the opposite. Yeah, because she's just always calling me.

It made me feel, because that was also David's spot. I'm like, oh my God, this feels like 2018 and we're with the cool kids. It felt fun. That one, I was tired though. I was dead. That was such a fun night. I was dead the rest of the time. This is seriously my energy back up. I know I loved it though. I loved it because I knew you came out later for me. Oh my gosh. No, that was everything. I love you guys. You guys are both sober now, so there's another match, right? You're still dry? Yeah, I'm sober. I'm pretty sober. For me. Yeah.

It's legal. That doesn't really count. Oh my God. Is that what the thing is that you always have? No, that's just nicotine. I'm trying to quit that though. I have like, I have like emphysema or something. Really? Are you? I was going to try the patch and then I never did, but. I called her a Vegas hooker. Thank you. Oh, that's cute. I used to love calling myself a hooker.

I called you a biggest white woman. That's what I call you With the patch it would just be funny cuz we're at Fashion Week and like she gets all decked out and then she has this patch on her arm It would be so fun Brand for her. Oh my god. That's one your podcast cuz like honestly like why how are you guys there? Why?

What do you mean? I'm always shocked. Such backhanded questions. Like, why the fuck would they invite you? We made them viral. We ate candy out there. No, you did.

Yes. What? Okay, this is also confusing to me because I saw you guys like front row like eating candy and I'm just like, how did that happen? I told you I eat candy. That's just, that's my whole diet is just candy. Were you guys sponsored by like the candy? No, I fucking went. It was Sour Patch. It was boring. People don't talk about that enough. Like the fashion shows are fucking, it can get boring. I mean, everyone goes, all the influencers and shit for kind of like the exposure and you know, and it is fun.

- It is fun, like all the parties and events and stuff, but fashion week, all the other stuff is super fun and everyone comes out, so it's fun. You know what I mean? But the fashion, you know, if you're going to a bunch of fashion shows, eventually it's like, you're just sitting there like, okay. - You're not into the fashion. - But you're right, that question was a good one. Like why the fuck were you guys there? - And it's so rare for you to be there.

I love it. I live for it. Like, no, truly, I don't know how people are there. I mean that sincerely because I've never been invited to anything in my life, like a red carpet or nothing. I'm like, how do you go to these things? Is it a manager? Is it a PR person? My stylist helps with a lot of that, I guess, kind of. Oh, you're so connected. But even just, yeah, just friends, like doing different stuff. We're fashionable creators. I think it's fun to bring him to show. What are you talking about? I mean, you gotta talk about fashion, do you? What are you talking about? No, literally. I feel like, I know I don't have no bedazzles on me or anything like that, but I feel like I'm doing it right. I don't know. Hair, hair.

No, the hair's not even there. You're a barber, but we can't see your hair. It'll be on my next show. We'll take the caps off for Jeff FM. I'll do a hair reveal.

I'm excited to be on it. I don't know if your audience is going to vibe with me. When you said to do a pod swap, I'm like, they're going to. Deal with it. You know what? They're going to. If they like me, they're going to like you. No, that's not true. Because, like, bro people, like, they don't. They're like, Trisha's so annoying. So skip this one. I mean, whatever. I bring Tana on all the time, and, you know, they didn't like her at first, but now they love her. Wow, I didn't even know that. Did you make that up again? You're lying a lot today. They're just very...

like careful and like protective of me like finding new friends because you know i've had such a bad history audience though really i actually really do and i'm not just like it's 50 50 men and women it's down the middle and it's like it's a lot more like sane people like i feel like the kid like i don't know how to explain like your your comments are very like sane uh in comparison to like my comment supportive like you know

Yeah, positive. I get a lot of positivity. I'm lucky. Like normal. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's amazing because especially coming out of this situation, like I feel like you – I still get hate for stuff that happened like 15 years ago literally. If we do like clout chasing shit, like yeah, we'll get some hate for that. But at the end of the day, it's a business. We're trying to keep the lights on here. I feel you. Even if it's like a little clout play or like a lot, I hate even using these words. I'm cringing already. I know you're about to say something. You're so old. You're so old. I'm so old.

Well, I'm older than you, so I'm like way old. Barely. Okay. Out of my head, I don't know what the year and a half. Yeah. So. I get it. Well, this is, I feel like this is genuine because we actually knew each other. We actually knew each other. Well, we know each other. We're friends. But we knew each other at one point for like a few days. I would see you here and there. Yeah. But.

But I think we're good now. You know what? I never did care for you too much back then, but I think now it's, you know, we're good. Okay. I think that's why the Starbucks episode, I was like, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. Because I was just like, you never talk to me. When people don't acknowledge me, I get so mad. Me too. Well, that's why I did it. Because I think they hate me and I build this whole narrative. No, before the Starbucks thing, you always ignored me. When I was still in the friend group, like Christmas parties and stuff, you just never talked to me. You'd always like, it's a boy thing. Boys like to talk to boys and people call me bitter or whatever, but I'm like, it's just like common sense.

I agree it's a boy thing and I am the same way that if someone doesn't talk to me I automatically think they hate me. That shit was premeditated. But I'll tell you about that. In Starbucks. Well, okay, that was, you were just being a little bitch. See, I viewed it as like, this is what I wanted from her. We can go to yours.

Yeah, let's save it for mine. That's the one thing I have in my notes. I was like, I want the Starbucks story. You get all the crane and all that. I know, I'm sorry. I have 5,000 more things to say so we can talk about it on your end. All right, perfect. Let's do it. Intermission, TikTok. I'm excited. Do you do TikTok? She doesn't. Okay, yeah. I don't even know what the fuck. I never see. I love how you do them too. You guys just film something and then you put something over the head. Oh, yeah. I mean, I can't see it anyway, so it's like, you know what I mean? I might as well. She doesn't know. Thanks for watching.

- Girls and gays next episode Trisha's gonna talk about all the girls and the gays things. - That's all we care about. - Thank you for having me always. - Thank you for having me. - I don't know if I served a purpose here at all today by the way. - Are you kidding me? - I just wanted to be like-- - I come every week, yeah. Oh my God, no. - I will come every week. - I'm shook, I'm shook how much people love you. Okay. - I love you so much.