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Alexis Thunderstorm 500 with Alaska Thunderf*ck

Publish Date: 2021/1/5
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And welcome back to another riveting episode of The Bald and the Beautiful! The Bald and the Beautiful! Featuring Trixie Mattel and Katya Zomoluchkova. And today, we are joined by...

The complex multi-talents of the inimitable. One of the most incredible, show-stopping, never the same, puke on it, throw it up, club, another club, another club, another club. Honestly, just one of my favorite drag queens of all time. Yeah, she's the queen of drags. Alaska Thunderfun. Yeah. Hi. Alexis Thunderstorm 500.

Do you have a pageant drag name? Is there some kind of version of that? Yes. I mean, yes. It's Juno Fairbanks because they're both cities in Alaska. Oh, you really went hard left. Oh, that's funny. That's funny.

Hi, my name is Juno. Alaska Thunderfond Iman Dupree Andrews at large plus. Elite. Elite. Elite. So for the people at home, you recorded the most wonderful little greeting for my stage show back in, was it last year or a couple years ago? And I swear to God, every night you introduced yourself as Alexis Thunderstorm 500. And I...

Every single fucking time. Every single time. It's just so great. I love a drag name on a drag name. Yes. Alexis Thunderstorm. 500. 500. I love that. It's really good. What kind of recording device do you use remotely? Oh, my God. What is this? Okay. It's like there's a here. I'll show you. It's like a micro. It's a microphone. We are talking to one of the world's premier drag artists.

recording artistes drag podcast artists oh that's right and for uh race chaser and those whores actually get in drag so if you want to listen to some quality content do you really they get they do sometimes i see the face there i saw you guys at bianca's pool side in drag right i mean special occasion as far as the listeners are concerned yes we do get in complete drag um head to toe

Would you like to describe your look today? Well, yes. I mean, it's hard to describe. I guess these are barrel curls on the top. It's sort of like, yeah, it's like a very high barrel curl. I have a lace front and it's also a lace back. You can see. The sides too, I see that. The nape of the, yes, the nape of the neck is also full lace. The kitchen, lace kitchen. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh my god. Well, congratulations. And it was bold of you to wear a steel bone S&M corset.

Those fetish heels that you can only sit in. Right. The Violet Chachki fetish heels. The commitment to glamour is very inspiring. Thank you so much. People have harassed us for like, why don't you guys get in drag for the podcast? Or they just want to videotape it. Yeah. But I just feel like since there's multiple versions of us in drag on YouTube every single week. Yeah. Give your boner a rest. Yeah.

Yeah. Rubbing the skin off. I was going to say it needs a little bit of relief. Do you how long have you been podcasting for Miss Thunderstorm? I think it's been two years. We've been doing it. Two years. Yeah. Two years. It's such a great pod. I love listening to you guys. Thank you. Well, I started listening when you guys were originally like full time doing Drag Race recap. Yes.

Which was so fun because nobody, like, nobody takes the piss out of it more than Willem. And no one's more religious about it than you are. So there's a really good push and pull. Yeah. Um, now tell me, do you guys, you like sort of went off the, um,

you kind of go off the rails in terms of like the timeline, right? Like you don't cover. Do you go off? Do you ever go off? Do you ever pop off at all? Sis, we go off, sis. We go off, sis. Do you ever snap so hard that you have to pop off? We,

Does your wig flew the chat? We started out, and I guess we must have started it in the off-season, which now there is no Drag Race off-season. It's just like... But we started out, and we started from the very beginning, season one, and we were going along, and then a new season aired while we were doing that, and we were like... I was like...

Oh man, I wish we could talk about that season. Right. It's happened. All these other people are doing podcasts about it. I wish we could talk about it. And then we were like, why can't we do it? Like we can do whatever the fuck we want. So yes. So now when the, when the current season comes on, we, we switch over and talk about it.

I think that's smart because that's what people are going to remember the most. Yeah. I remember highlights of older seasons if I was a normal person. Of course, you know, like everything about those older seasons. But yes, it's like SportsCenter. It is very SportsCenter. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? Do you ever get this? Like people commenting about the they're like, oh, too much drag race, like too much oversaturated. I was like, there are five golf channels.

Do you know what I mean? I used to watch seven seasons of a show I didn't like to see one gay kiss. Yeah. What show was it, Buffy? Don't watch it. Yeah, don't watch it. I'm going to say who it was. Monet X Change tweeted the other day. She was like, I already feel drag race fatigue or something. And I said, whore, don't watch it. Miss whore. That's so funny. But the fans love to do that too. I tried to call her to call her out and she didn't pick up. So Monet, I am formally challenging you.

What is it? What is it? Martha, take it easy. What is it? Wait, who's the first? Oh, Patty, don't start. Patty, don't start. Martha, take it easy. Martha, take it easy. Martha, take it easy. That also, that also works. Patty, don't start. But you know, the only time I feel like there's too many is when, you know, when there's one season a year, you do as a viewer get,

very much more invested. That's true. Versus like, I'm going to have to learn Swedish to watch the season, you know. But that's like, if you only have one meal a day, then it tastes delicious. That's not, you know what I mean? You can go to five or six stores for just one.

You've got a big story. It's very true. And I think that the Drag Race fandom is capable of handling two seasons at once. These are people that can take four loads a night. Yeah. Girl. Seriously. We're capable. We're totally capable. And it's kind of an embarrassment of riches. It's a fun thing to complain about. Maybe that's why people say it. Oh, I know. Girl. It's terrible.

Gay people love to complain, period. Don't you think? Yeah, 100%. Gay people also love the representation and then they get it and they hate whatever it is. Not that bad, though. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we hate it. So, Alaska Thunderfund, you were recently featured. I don't want to put you on the spot or make you feel uncomfortable, but I just want to say your body is so insane. Oh.

So we did a music video together, come in Brazil, and there are so many shots of you're like, you know, you're posing in this leopard print dress. Yeah. And I just can't really get the proportions of your body in drag are so like crazy. Thank you. It's like...

It's like almost grotesque. It's like it's. Here's how I feel that you like. I remember one of my first Drag Race gigs. Do you remember me, you and Tammy Brown doing New Year's Eve in Portland like six years ago?

I do. I remember it well. Our dressing room was the hallway. A hallway. Yeah. And I remember watching Alaska, who's obviously such so famous to me at the time, changing out of a suitcase in a dark, wet hallway. And I was like, oh, this is it. This is what we're aspiring to. But I had never seen somebody so little pad so big and like, I mean, it's a two hour glass. How like how long have you had that shape and does it change ever?

Well, you know, I mean, it's incredible. It's incredible. It's incredible. I've just sort of always been built this way. And, you know, I just it's I just eat, you know, I eat healthy and it's just I just eat. It's just natural, you know. No, I find that a large ass is comforting.

Yeah.

And physically comforting because you're sitting on pads. I was going to say, you won't break a tailbone because of the padding if you fall. Yeah. Which happened to me. I'm very grateful. Drag queens really could be crash dummies. Yeah. We are a lot of the time. I could be a Jennifer Coolidge stunt double. Have you broken a bone in drag? In drag? No. Have you? No. Have you ever broken a, have you ever done a Shangela full femur snapped out of the skin? Never done that. I don't really do enough to warrant a broken bone. No.

I will say, if you or I, she does splits, but if you or I broke something, I think people will go, doing what? Doing what exactly? Oh, falling off the stage, yeah. Have you ever taken a great fall up there on the stage? Oh, many, many times. Is there enough for a compilation? I don't know.

I don't know, probably. They're all out there. Really, have you eaten shit like this one has? I mean, she really ate shit. Both hands in the air. Both hands wiggling, yeah. The problem with that is that you fell into the darkness. When you fall on stage, then you can just sort of stay down there and continue doing your thing. But you fell into the orchestra pit and disappeared. You had no way of recovering from it.

Both my shoes fell off and it was like a five minute mix and they fell off 30 seconds in. So then people tips me grimacing like, you know, I wasn't hurt. I was, I was embarrassed and scared. Yeah.

But you know who else had a great, great fall in drag? Obviously, the Battle of the Seasons one. Oh, Jinx. Yeah, Jinx. But the other good one of Jinx is her and Major Scales. And she's like, here's to the ladies in drag. And she throws out her arm and hits the drink out of Major's hand. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yes, yes, yes. And then she eats shit. And then I love you, Jinx. But she turns on him so fast on that stage. She's like, would my piano player get out of here before he ruins the show? And I'm like, whoop. Oh, my God. I haven't seen that one.

It got ugly. It got really ugly. But you know what though? I get it. Falling in front of people and she's singing live. Yeah. That's humiliating. I think he was at West 5. It looked like West 5. She said, I'm not going to make a joke out of this. I'm not going to like laugh it off. I'm going to viciously attack my piano player and blame him. Because I think it was his fault. Yeah. She should have looked at it. By the way, I think he was presenting her with a drink, like a full drink. Yeah.

Which, you know, that's where he crossed the line, trying to help her and keep that woman hydrated. How dare. So, could I ask, when did you know you were beautiful? Oh, yeah. This is called the bald and the beautiful. We're bald and you're beautiful. And since you're not bald... I know how dare I have hair. It's really, honestly... In 2020? The audacity. How dare. Um... So, you agree. So, you think you're beautiful. So, you think you're really beautiful. Or when did you start to feel beautiful, in or out of drag? Um...

No, the first, it's, this is, I was at Burning Man and it was the first time I ever went to Burning Man many, many years ago. And I was like, and I went to Burning Man and I was like, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna bring drag. I'm not gonna, I don't want people to call me Alaska. I just want to like exist outside of drag because drag takes over your life. And I was trying to like not do that. Then of course, as soon as I was there, it was like, okay, let's get into it.

Did you bring drag? No, but they just... I was staying with Comfort and Joy, which is a camp which is, like, all, like, fairies and, like... So drag was just everywhere. There were just, like, boxes of it. So, like, I found this brown hair and I used my...

my own hair in the front and then added this brown hair to it. And we ate molly and we were riding bikes around the playa at night. And I stumbled into this, um, this tent that was selling true mirrors and,

And a true mirror is like, it's kind of like a shadow box almost. And then there's two mirrors that meet at a perfect angle. And so it's a reflection of your reflection. So you're seeing yourself how other people see you. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. So it's a little scary and a little weird. Like when you move to the left, the reflection moves to the right. Like it's really weird. Yeah.

And I looked in this true mirror and of course I was on Molly's. It was really twisted. And I was like, oh my God, I'm so beautiful. And I had never, you know, like I had never really had that thought or that notion tangibly before that moment. I love that. Wow. Burning man of all places. I know. Yeah. Do you identify as a burner? No, no.

And I love it. I love the sentiment of it. But, like, the port-a-potties, like, I could... Like, we... I went many... Like, a few years ago with Willem and Courtney. And, like, we had a great time. But I was like, I...

I think I just need plumbing. Like, I can't. That is my Burning Man. Seriously. My Burning Man is like a bathtub. Like, a hotel bathroom is my Burning Man. Right. I can't imagine getting in drag, like, without, like, a proper shower and then all that dust and shit. Oh, my God.

It's rough. And people fucking and sucking. Pardon my French. People fucking and sucking covered in dirt. Covered in dirt and dust. Mad Max, Waterworld, pussy. Dookies. I can barely put contact lenses in my eye at Burning Man. I can't imagine getting fucked at Burning Man. I cannot. And they're doing it. But they do it. They do it. Pregnancy scares. I had a pregnancy scare at Burning Man. Yeah.

No, that's not true. No. Thank you for clarifying. I was looking at Christmas specials to watch with my family this week for Christmas and I was like, let's see what Bunny's up to. And I turned it on for a second and she said, he came into my ass pumping my rump.

And then she rubbed her butthole and smelled it and licked it. And I was like, maybe we'll do Tammy's holiday sparkle instead. That's a good one. For the family. That's a good one. For the family gathering. Bun Bun is wild. Who's your fave drag queens? Who made you want to start drag? He finally did come. I need to watch the Lady Bunny one. My favorite drag queens. I mean, Jackie B is definitely up there.

Divine is definitely up there. Well, Jackie invented Divine. Jackie is Divine's drag mom. You know, RuPaul. Of course. Yeah. Wait, how long has it been since you won All-Stars? It's been 84 years. It's been 84 years. I think that was 2016. 2016. Yeah.

Would you ever go back to do like another? Yes. You would really? Yes, of course. Would you go back? No. Do you want to go back? I would now. Yeah. You would? I would. Yeah. Oh no. I'm taking the money and run. Okay. I got lucky the first time. I would just go like, just go have a wiggle.

Yeah. Well, I will say it's more fun like Celebrity Drag Race and Christmas Hollisley Spectacular. Going and not competing is very fun. And I guess if you're smart, you can just get into it and compete well by not thinking too much about it. Yeah, I would just pretend it was the Hollisley Spectacular. Exactly. It's All Stars 26 or whatever. You guys should go back. Let's take a break and we'll talk more about it. Okay.

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And we're back talking with the confirmed cast of All Stars 47. Confirmed. We should go back as like different, with pseudonyms. Different personas entirely. Yeah, I would do Sigourney Beaver or Bumpy Bullet. Bumpy Bullet? Bumpy Bullet. Yeah.

Yeah. That's up there with Frisbee Jenkins. Do you know Sasha? Wait a minute. I know who Frisbee Jenkins is. I just saw her OnlyFans or her Twitter. Yeah. Her Twitter is incredible. Do you know Sasha Bell from season seven of RuPaul's Drag Race? Do I? I do. Do you think I don't know?

Do you think I don't follow Sasha XXL on Twitter? You can crack the code all over her Twitter. She's looking really great. So good. She looks good. She's so hot. I would fuck her. She's doing it right. She's like, I'm going to do OnlyFans and give the children something that they truly will thirst after. Balls dick out. Yeah. Ass out. Like, it's incredible. Frisbee. It's fabulous. Jenkins.

Yeah. And did you know her original drag name was Frisbee Jenkins? I didn't know that. I just always like see it on her things. So good. Oh, hold on. Sorry. I, oh, I guess I can't go off. I was going to bring up my drag, my drag name file. Hold on. Can you still hear me?

Yeah, we would love to hear your drag name file. Oh my god, I mean, they're all mostly horrible, but okay, that's the point. I love good drag names. Oh, and I also put jokes in here. She didn't get a standing ovation, she got a laying down ovation. Whatever happened to Baby Janeway?

What happened to Baby what? Baby Janeway, like Captain Janeway from whatever. Okay, they're not good. Teenage... Sorry, we don't know what that is. Teenage Mutant Tina Turners. Okay. That is funny. That is really funny. Okay, okay. That's good. Teenage Mutant Tina Turner. Roxy thought of one. We thought of one once. Party Turnter. Oh, Party Turnter. Party Turner. Oh, or...

I think party's a good name. Eartha Clit. That's great. Stop it. Eartha Clit.

Bonnie Cunt. Oh, that's a nice one. Bonnie Cunt. There's such a commitment to have some of these really profane names. I guess you would know, huh? Yeah, do you ever, I mean, I'm sure you have to like kind of adjust or not really. Do you have to adjust your name for marketing purposes? It's very, it's like those memes where it's like, this is me on LinkedIn. This is me on Facebook. It's like on Twitter, I'm Alaska Thunderfuck. On Facebook, I'm Alaska 5000. Yeah.

And then there's like Alaska Thunder Fun. There's just Alaska. There's like you get on Parler. You're Beth Hanson. Right. Yeah. Parler. Isn't Parler like the Republican Facebook? Beth Hanson from Joliet, Illinois. Should we join Parler?

I have thought about what about a mass? What's the opposite of Exodus where we all show up somewhere? Crashing? Yeah, a mass infiltration of Parler, a bunch of the crossdressers. Like we should turn that into our like our drag my space. Yeah. Yeah, but you know what though? Why can't we just hang out? I just want to hang out. I just want to hang out and have coffee.

Do you guys want to talk about Come in Brazil? I want to because I'm telling you I'm not over this body thing. The body. The body is incredible because you have this waist that's so thin, but you have very broad shoulders. Thank you. You're not a petite little wisp of a thing. You're quite tall. No, I'm a giant. You have the supermodel body.

I mean, it is wild. It's so wild. That's what Jade Jolie says is them shoulders need to match them hips. And I learned that in like art classes, like women typically have their shoulders and their hips match in proportion. So like actually, I have to kind of pad wide because I do have...

broad shoulders so in order to just like balance the whole picture she does need to like have a wide set especially since you show your arms all the time arms and shoulders you give really good arm and shoulder that's so nice i mean i hate showing my arms it makes me uncomfortable but the ventilation is it must be so amazing and you have great skin do you tan yes every day

fantastic i and like it's winter right now so i have like one sliver of light uh along the side of my house from the from the moment of 11 to 11 30 so that's that's my um that's my tan what do you beauty wise what is like what is the alaska thunder fun 5000 regimen what does it consist of like on the face area

Do you wash your face with soap? I, um, no. Do you know Willem uses bar soap on her face?

That tracks. That's not surprising. That tracks. That's not surprising. That's wild to me. I use like a thing that my, I have a facial guy and integrity skincare. Do you like, have you gotten the vampire facials and all that stuff? No, but I have a facial guy. Like when the world used to be like a thing I used when I was in San Francisco, I would get facials from integrity skincare. My friend Brandon works there and, um,

He does really great stuff and he does like the, have you ever had your nostrils waxed? We did it in beauty school. It's pretty crazy. What is it? What does it consist of? It's fierce. He puts hot wax on a little stick, like a popsicle stick and puts it in your nose, lets it set and then yanks it out and it pulls out every single last hair. And then he shows it to you and it's like a little cactus. It's crazy. But wait,

Isn't it like, don't you have to watch out for ingrown hairs inside the nose with the waxing? Have you ever heard about that? No. It's pretty sick when they do it. I've never had it done to me. It looks like it hurts so bad. It's probably just a quick. Yeah, it just feels like a sneeze. It's fierce. Yeah, it would make your eyes cry for sure. Yes. It's amazing.

I want the ear thing. You know what I mean? They do that thing. They light it. What do they do? Oh, the ear candling? Yeah. Sis wants to do ear candling. Ear candling? She's going to do a DIY. She's going to be a birthday candle sticking out of her ear being like, this isn't the same. Stick a candle in my ear and light it. Have you ever done that? I don't understand it. Did you do that on your OnlyFans?

That's what Frisbee Jenkins is doing. We got to have Frisbee Jenkins over here. I would love to see it. Up on the pod to talk about transitioning from a drag queen to a... To a fuckable hunk of a like... Girl. I'm not going to say daddy because he's younger than me. Right. Fuckable hunk of a man. Good job. Yeah, God bless her. Big dumper in the back.

Yeah, she's, and I mean, if we're being, sister dick make you sick, but she has a beautiful dick. Oh yeah, she does have, she has a great dick. Yeah. It's so weird to be like, I would fuck her.

But I would. But I would. And what? She's so attractive. I'm not assuming that she would want to fuck me. We're not assuming, but if you're listening, please reach out. I'm prepared to fuck you. Oh my God. Oh my God. You know who else's podcast I like if we're talking about the girls with pods? Mr. Roger and Delta. Roger and Delta. So good. So good.

Raja talking about TikTok. Raja said, I don't want to kick a shoe and change my outfit. I like the outfit I have on. I love that. And then that show, like God forbid Fashion Bud doesn't take an online return. Delta's like, we got an episode. We've got a full episode. Your fashion comes from a bug.

I love listening to Roger talk. Delta is so great. I mean, she will literally like, yeah, she will, uh, a drive through like, um,

Altercation will set her off. Set her off. It's the best. She's amazing. And she can say one word and she can be like, hello. And her level of sarcasm is so varied and layered. She can just say a single word and you're like, oh my God, that's hilarious, fierce. And I also feel red. And I also just am living. Yeah.

She acknowledged me, but also I feel bad. I love that. Oh, she's making fun of me to my face right now. I love her. She has that brittle layers of dry. Did I read? Absolutely. So good.

Did I read? Absolutely. Did I read? Absolutely. Our little rattles we like to say to ourselves, my new one is malicious gay faggotry. It can just apply to anything. That's nice. Faggotry in Motion is going to be Lola's first album. Faggotry in Motion. Faggotry in Motion.

How many albums of drag music have you produced to date? Oh my gosh. Well. We are quizzing you. I don't know why. Just music, say, in general. There's three solo albums, and then Jeremy and I did an album, and then I did the album with the AAA girls. So that's like five. Oh, you did a whole album. We did, yeah. Okay. You have the best...

I mean, it is fantastic. It's so good. It's so good. And it's funny because like, so on, on my EP, it was, um, you know, featuring Trixie Mattel. You did one sentence and then featuring Alaska and you sang the whole song. Yeah. So thank you for that. All the comments were like, I can't believe she has a feature. And she said one line from silence of the land. Like, and what? Yeah. So good. It's so good. And all your videos, some of them are five plus years old. They look like they were made yesterday. Like,

Like they're just, they're amazing. So good. Can I ask? I mean, I know it's old to you. Probably the video for your makeup is terrible. It's so good. And the video for this is my hair is so amazing. Yeah. Just your videos are so great. There was a horse in that, wasn't there? There was, we got a fucking horse.

So wild. Oh, we were in the video for the tea. The tea, yep. I remember that. That continuous shot, that tracking shot. What a production that day. One shot. It was wild. Thank you for being in it. That was... I flew from Provincetown to come in and do... Oh, I'm in it for two seconds doing this. Yes! That's it. And I felt so included. And I mean, if we're being gauche, Alaska also... You paid us. Yeah, that was very nice. Paid everyone. Very, very nice.

Yeah. The girls paying the girls in this economy? Well, these were different times. We all had jobs. Today, would she pay us? I don't know. She'd be like, I don't know. Definitely not. That was such a fun little shoot. It was like in that little warehouse kind of space. I want to do more music videos like...

Do you like making music videos? No. I don't either. It's rough. Do you, Alaska? Do you like making music videos? It's rough. I like having music videos. Yeah, I like having them. I like planning them. Yes, I wish making them felt like watching them at

the end because when it is what you want and you watch it you feel like that girl but when you're making it you're like I'm an hour in and I already sweated off everything yeah although our shoot the come in Brazil shoot was really like pretty leisurely don't you think there was the spread out over two days and yes kind of

Which is always love. But it was leisurely for me. Girl, you had fucking prosthetics glued on your face. Oh, but that's fun though. You just sit there. She did? They were pumping liquid. I thought that was real. They were pumping liquid into the prosthetic on your face. Pumped. Honey, pump. Pump it like a trumpet.

Oh my God. Somebody commented on it. I just did this comedy video with Michael Henry and somebody, there's like a few comments that are like, well, Miss Trixie's getting fully pumped and tucked. I guess it works. I haven't had any. What are they talking about? They think my face looks like I got a bunch of work done. I was like, all right. The new getting work done is getting nothing done and insisting that you, I just got a little. Leave them guessing because you did nothing and you're like, it just got a little. Would you go, would you get the full yank?

Would you get the face snatched off and paste back on? 20 years from now, the full yank. No, I'm going to do it early. I'm going to do it like at 40. I think I'm going to get like a lower facelift because they say like for men, it's better to do it early and then it just sort of sits in the right place as you get older. Yeah, get the full Renee Zellweger. Get an identity theft facelift.

Unrecognizable. Face ID on my phone doesn't recognize me. 100%. And then a tiny little, like a nose job to make your nose like just tiny, like barely there. Yeah. I like when the work is, you haven't improved the person's looks. They just have changed into a new human. Right. So they're not pretty or you're younger. Just different DNA. It's a lateral move. It's a lateral move. I love that. I'm on the run. Well, Kristen Wiig, I feel like just. I didn't want to say it.

Oh, why? But you said it. I know. So Kristen Wiig apparently had some kind of thing done in Miami. She went to the dentist. That's what I thought. I said it's veneers. No, I'm just making a joke. Going to the dentist in Hollywood means you got the face snatched on. Sweet. All I could think of is like, okay, she got veneers, but I don't know. I'm not good with like pinpointing, you know. I didn't think she looked... First of all, she's so beautiful. Yeah. And I didn't think she looked...

quote unquote better. I just thought she looked different. Like lateral move. Yeah. And also at 46 or seven, like what's, I mean. But you know what? We've talked about it on this show before with all kinds of surgeries. If you get what you want out of it, you better work. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, if she's happy with it, great. But if those Wonder Woman people put her up to it. I hope they pressured her. Gal. Gal Gadot. Gal Gadot. I blame Gal Gadot. How weird is it that Gal Gadot

Her most famous role is woman. Wonder Woman? Yeah. But Wonder Woman is so fierce. I know, but her name is Gap. And she plays the woman. Oh my God. It's so weird. Do you know what I mean? I can't believe that. We're going to take a break. And we are back with The Bald and the Beautiful with our guest, Alaska Thunder Fun. $5 million. $5 million.

What to you is like the pinnacle of glamour, beauty, female, feminine beauty? Who's the one to you? Who is just levitating to you with beauty? I love Raquel Welch in Myra Breckenridge. Girl. Girl. That movie made literally no sense, but the looks. Right.

The face, the 60s, oh my God. And Mae West. You gotta watch it. It's so weird. Like literally just watch the Mae West parts. You don't need the rest of the movie. Just the Mae West. Did you understand that movie? I was made to feel uneducated and dumb by the plot. It doesn't fit in with modern day standards of decency as far as like the plot of the story. It's like this, this like,

It's, like, about this, like, gay guy who just gets a sex change in order to, like, get revenge on the people who, like, who tortured him as a young person. And so it's, like, that doesn't really work with, like... That doesn't...

The messaging is a little off. Yeah. Yeah. But Mae West is in it and she's, it's like one of her last movies and she's like 80 and like still like fucking roomfuls of men and like. Yeah. And, and Raquel Welch, her face and the hair, the hair, the hair, the body, the clothes. And when somebody makes me want to have brown hair.

They are beautiful. I never covet brown hair unless it's like a Lisa Marie Presley or like a girl. Yes. One of these days, one of these days we're all going to go burn it. I just know it. I know we're all going to go burn it. Let's do it one day. I cannot. Never.

One of these days. Someday when we do a shot for shot remake of Practical Magic, though, we are going to have to do red hair and brunette. Yeah. Wait, am I Nicole Kidman, though? I feel like I'm Nicole. I think you're Nicole Kidman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever done a redhead? Oh, yeah. I like red. You do? I like red, yeah. Do you like wearing red hairs, Alaska? I understand that it is beautiful, and I do. She wore it in the video. She wore red hair in our little video.

For some people, it just makes sense. Like, I couldn't imagine another color on Jinx. Yeah. Right. I could imagine her as a brunette. Yeah. Or like when Ginger is, when Ginger does brown hair, I'm fine with it. But Ginger mentioned red. It's like, oh, that's your hair color. Right. For sure. This is the color that's growing out of your head. Yes, exactly. Oh, what's her face? Mary Mack.

Oh, yeah. Red, red, red. Total red hair. I understand that it's beautiful. So like, I get it. But I'm also like, I know that Alaska ultimately has blonde hair and dark eyes. That's just who she is. Yeah. Do you like wearing dark lips?

No. I mean, I have a hard time with it. Dark what? Dark lips. Oh, dark lips. I understand that it's beautiful, but it's not. But I don't care. It's got to be a dark eye. It's got to be a light lip. That's just how it is. You do that light lip. Yes, I love that. I think I wear a heavier eye as well. You do? I do. Do you ever wear lashes? I feel because I wear a speedy eye.

I feel because I wear such heavy eyes, it's hard for me to put on even like a red lip sometimes and feel like, whoa. I love heavy eyes and heavy lips. But you pointed out, Katia pointed out something to me like in those big stages though, the nudes don't read. Like even with the dark line of the nudes don't really read. Like on a theatrical setting. Yeah. Unless you're doing like unplugged or whatever. Unless I'm doing like a dark brown liner with like a glitter nude lip, I know that it doesn't really read. Yeah. That's why I just get pumped.

Oh, yeah. Your lips are pretty awesome. And you had thin, villainous lips on your season of Drag Race. Well, I don't. I think people's perception... Hey, hey, hey. No, listen. Villainous. I think people's perception of beauty has changed, and maybe that's why people say that I have had my lips done, but, you know, honestly...

I think really the world has changed and so people see me differently. I think your eyes have shrunk and so everything looks bigger. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're tan now, so of course the lips look bigger. Yeah, things change and, you know, I've grown into my face a little bit and second puberty. I was young.

That's what happened to my teeth too. People's perceptions just changed. Yes. This one got lips right before the Red Scare campaign shoot and you couldn't tell her nothing. Mary, I love it. Are you going to get more again? Yes, absolutely. Good for you. I love it.

I mean, it's very subtle and that's... Yeah. It's like I... But it's funny though because I'll look back at pictures before and I'm like, no lips. That person has no lips. And I fully have lips. It's just like... No lips, who dis? It's literally that. It's crazy. I think like because I draw mine on so big, it's never even crossed my mind. Yeah, it would be ridiculous. Because it's like, who cares? Yeah, it would be ridiculous. But...

Oh, well, can I ask another, a good question? Why? Yeah. That's a good question. Why? Yes. We love drag. We love other drag Queens. What drag Queens out there, their personal style, their look where you're like, I want to walk a day in that. Who do you covet? Whose closet would you raid? Oh my gosh. I mean, how nice would it be to just be Violet Chachki for like a day?

Yeah. We just had her as a guest and her life philosophies were very inspiring. Yeah. Yeah. I would love to look like her, but I would not love to wear the clothes. Do you know what I mean? Like I wouldn't have to, I wouldn't want to do what it takes to look that good. Yeah. Cause it's just too painful. Painful and sickening and always never the same, always different referencing, not referencing, club, bus,

Yes, no sleep. And I say again, in case you didn't hear me. Club, another club. Another club. And I say again. I just saw a meme that was like me when Corona's over. Club, another club. I am so ready to go to like precinct and watch a drag queen and get a little blasted. It's going to be the Roaring Twenties. I was just told about this. It's going to be great Gatsby again. It's going to be...

It's going to be queer as folk, like the 90s nightlife. I'm going to wear a tank top, fishnet tank top, nipple ring. I'm going to do like gay Ken frosted tips. I don't know how you frosted tip a bald head, but I'm doing it. We're doing it. Oh my God. It's going to be really good. Yeah. I like that. We're all going to go out every night for like a month. And we're not just going to wear clothes. It's going to be turning looks.

because we have so much pent up you know glamour I haven't nutted in nine months oh my gosh yeah Violet's pretty much who else besides Violet who's the one who's the one you could probably fit RuPaul gowns honestly yeah oh I know I want to steal one so much which one do you want like you know they display them at drag con

And we're always, we always have access to drag con, like when they're loading in and loading out. Bitch, I could fucking, I could steal one of those garments and it would fit me and I would wear it.

Yeah, but if you stole it and then it went missing and then they saw you in it, would this be like your swan song? Something about this doesn't seem... The night you want to go to prison, you're just like, this is my look. It'd be a great press day. It would be a great press hit. And you return it. Yeah. A cat burglar. And even though you could just grab it at DragCon, I want you to Mission Impossible drop from the ceiling. You install lasers to put... Yes, put glass around it just to cut a hole in it. Catherine Zeta-Jones. Yeah.

Yeah. Entrapment. Entrapment. Because you guys wear a lot of the same silhouettes. I used to get costumes from Dallas who makes a lot of your costumes and she said that your silhouette is Marge Simpson. Strapless. It's Marge Simpson with tall hair. Totally. Holy shit. That's funny. You're the Marge Simpson of drag and I'm here to show people I still got it. Please. Marge Simpson. I love that. I mean, I'm obsessed with your silhouette. That like strapless silhouette.

like skin tight and then just body tons of curves and that tiny, tiny, tiny little waist. I loved your look from the finale of, or the all-stars reunion. Wasn't that the bugs, the cockroach? The bugs. Yeah. So cute. And then you were partially burned and you call it your galaxy note. My, that's right. My Samsung six that exploded. Yeah. That's amazing. Uh,

What a fun reunion that was That was Actually It was a little boring Can we Just to go back It was a little boring I know it was a long time For you guys ago But All Stars 2 Was just the fucking best Season of television On the planet I think it's the best season Of Drag Race ever It is I really do

What do you think? I have not gone back and rewatched it, so I don't know. But I will when the podcast gets to it. I don't know. Yes. Your contributions to it are very good. You're a big reason why it's great. Yeah. It was exciting. The cast was really, really amazing. It was like we had all these great seasons of Drag Race. Oh, word.

We had all these great seasons of Drag Race in a row, and then it was just like all the best queens from those seasons all in one place. It was great timing. We didn't know if All Stars was ever going to happen again, and then it did. And the first time that format existed. First time the format existed. Yeah, the twist. Yeah. Y'all wanted a twist. Were you guys gagged when they pulled that out? Absolutely. Absolutely.

I mean, I actually naively thought stupidly. I was like, oh, we're just going to get like. We're just going to hang out. No, seriously. I was like, we'll all be here till the end and we'll get points. We're going to have all go into your buffet and put on wigs. That's what I thought too. And like, you'll get a marble for each win. And then at the end of the season, you count your marbles and you get like some money or whatever. Oh, God. We literally all thought that.

Yeah. Nothing could be further from the truth. You guys both really smoked them. No, I mean, she really smoked. She really came in there like she was clearing the Amazon rainforest, just like a bulldozer. You did. We were together the night you won. Wasn't that the most magical night? Yeah, it was cool. It was at Precinct in LA, which you couldn't really ask for anything.

I won at Roscoe's, which was also equally magical. Confetti rained from the ceiling. Confetti rained from the ceiling. And I was like, I couldn't believe it. And T-Rex said, yeah, it was for when you lost, but we didn't want to waste it. Oh, my God. It was so magical when you won. And then you had that tall, tall wig on. Mars Simpson.

Marge Simpson. And we had to get that tiara thing or drop it over the hair, like putting on a condom. Like a scud missile. That's so funny. I love that. It was really magical. How would you describe your, this is kind of a dumb question, but like how would you describe your personal style in drag? And do you have time for drag?

style and glamour out like when the drag is off like your boy self does that ever get any like I am a

I'm the type of person that could eat, like, who could eat the same thing for dinner every night. And I could literally... Us too. Yeah, absolutely. I could also wear the same thing in drag for always. I always feel the most comfortable when it's black plastic and I have blonde hair and I have dark eyes and a nude lip and like that stuff.

I feel the most comfortable in that I could wear it every single fucking day and I do wear it very often I don't know if you're like me too but I'll change one thing and I'll be like I can't believe I've transformed on this day

And people are like, you look exactly the same. Yeah. Yeah. From eggplant to beige lipstick. Right. And people are like, I can't believe. Girl, you've done it again. Taking risks. Oh my God. I love uniforms though. Like in real life and in like, I love uniforms. Yeah. Do you think it's because, we've talked about this. I think it's because the drag queens I like wanted to be like, they looked the same all the time. So I think I always wanted to look, I wanted to be like a cartoon, same outfit every day. Yeah. Like a superhero, an action figure, whatever. Yeah.

Yeah. Recognizable also when there's so many these days. Yeah. That's why, like if you're a kimchi or a Fifi and you're so good at being a chameleon. Right. I think it's an uphill battle with people recognizing you unless you're like a television star, you know, because you could look different every time. Right. Yeah.

Yeah, Jessica Rabbit wears the same fucking dress every night. So, girl. She's about to do what she's about to do. She's about to show what the other girls should have did. And out of drag, I don't know if you try, but I always think you look really nice and fancy. Yeah, you do look really put together. Clean, concise, consistent. I wear the same thing every day. I feel most comfortable in a black tank top.

And like pants. Presentation. Clean. Clean. Talent. Clean. Clean. Clean. Let me ask you this. As a man, will you wear a thong? Do you think thongs are sexy on men? I would wear it like for a gimmick. I don't I wouldn't wear it like as my daily underwear because I would just ruin it and it would just be covered in shit by the end of the day. Yeah.

To ask this woman to wear a thong would be to ask her to control her bowels. And that's just something that's not on the table for her right now. It just isn't going to work out. Or ever. It's not going to work. Thongs are making a comeback. I'm just letting you know. I'm going to wear that thong. I want that man to be able to floss before he eats. Do you like lace panties on men?

I would fuck with a guy in a lace panty. I don't think I would wear it, but I think it's kind of cute when other people wear it. I wouldn't request it, but if I saw it, I'd be like, oh, okay. I love that because anything that's like feminizing the masculine male is like A+. Especially if he has a big can.

And then like he wants to get all like baggy. Or like kind of muscly and hairy with like a lace underwear. I love that. Ding dong. Ding dong. We're looking for symmetry. We're looking for precision. Girl, have you watched? We did an episode of obviously glow up on our Netflix show. And I'm so haunted by that final challenge with the lashes with the balls on them.

Oh, God. We were just talking about when it comes to buying lashes, if you see feathers, if you see tinsel lashes, if you see little shapes, put them down. Just black. Lashes are black. Yeah, that's it. Don't try to. And why is it the first time any of us get in drag, we want like pink lashes? That was me. Why do we all want like blue lashes? Pink, feather, orange, blue. It's so, I don't know. We all thought that was the ticket. Like this is, baby, this is me. It's nothing of the sort.

A pink party page with like blue feather lashes. Like y'all can't take it. No. Y'all can't take it. We're at a Rocky Horror in 2006 and y'all can't take it. There's not even a pageant tonight, but I'm getting a crown. I'm winning. Ugh, they're so gutted. That's what's fun about drag though. From the second you start, you're so bad, but you feel it.

Yeah. You don't have to get good to feel it. No, you don't. Because oftentimes people never get good. Oh, for five years in ballet, I never felt it. I was like, I'm not good at this. Versus like drag, you can be bad and be like, I'm the only one. I'm the only woman in the world right now. Yeah. Yeah, it's a feeling. It's an essence. Marilyn has an essence. Can I ask sort of an abstract? I know we're keeping you a while, but I have a question about your music. Okay. How did you invent...

this, I mean, I'm not saying inventing a bitch track or like a talk over music, but how did you invent this style of music for yourself? Because it really is so fun to listen to. And even in a club environment, we are screaming and talking. It's just like so easy to warm up to, even if you've never heard it. Right. I mean, I don't know. It's stolen. I didn't, I didn't invent. It's very like... Jackie invented it. Right. Right.

It's very like Jimmy James, like just stolen from that. Oh, it's Fashionista. Right. You got to have a look. I don't know that one. No one ugly allowed. Fashionista. I mean, it's literally like high. Did you ever have that as your pre-show music at a drag show? Oh, yeah. Girl, it played in every club. And I was like, I want to do a song like that. So I did Highy.

And it was like, this is. That is such a good pre-show song. This is the song you hear at the beginning of the drag show, you know. Get ready to tip. Right. Is it tip these men? Yeah. Tell us, we look. Right. It's a great pre-show song. Yeah, it's a perfect pre-show or mature song. Girl, you've done it again. Also, the drag song that really you can't go to a drag show anywhere without hearing it is Working Girl by Shangela.

Oh, excellent song. It's the perfect drag song. You know what song I absolutely love, though? Pump With Me by Sahara Davenport. Really good. It's really good. The melody is really, really lovely. And it's a great tune. I listened to it yesterday, like randomly. It's a really good song. Maybe we should work it into one of our shows. It's really good. Please. It's really, really good. She's amazing.

Yeah, fantastic. I just love you. I love you too. I just love you, girl. I saw you last New Year's Eve at the Globe Theater. You were like one of the last drag shows I saw probably.

And I appreciate you very much that night because you were the only person. And the first thing you said to me was, you look really pretty tonight. But you were the only person who told me I look really pretty that night. And I was in such a, I was so stressed out. I was in such a mood. And you really like, you really elevated my mood. I don't know if you were just being polite or what. Oh, good.

But it... You looked great. It really takes... It really is very nice. That's why, like, whenever I go to a drag show, like, I always... I always tell drag queens they look amazing because sometimes it bears repeating. Like...

Yeah. That's very nice of you. It was what I needed, like midnight on New Year's, which I didn't know was about to be the worst year ever. Was that last year's New Year's? You with your backup dancers and your matching outfits doing, this is my hair for like thousands of people. I was like, this is New Year's, bitch. And it's probably the first New Year's I haven't worked because my boyfriend was like, don't work this New Year's. And we got to see you and it was so lovely. And now we're going to be doing New Year's this year. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

That's right. By the time this comes out, we'll have already done it. Yeah. 2021. So based on what we say, you're welcome or we apologize. We're very sorry. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you. Thank you so much for joining us, Miss Thunder Fun. If anybody wants to follow you, where can they find you? On Instagram. It's at the only Alaska 5000 because...

Somebody stole Alaska Thunderfuck and Alaska. Girl, don't even get me started. I hate people. I had to be Trixie Mattel 8 on TikTok for the longest time. You're the eighth one. Which means seven people stole from me. Trixie Mattel 8. Did you type in each one? One. Take it. Trixie Mattel. Three. You know you're famous when you have to be the only Trixie Mattel 8. The only. The only Trixie Mattel 8 at large.

Thank you both so much. It was great talking with you. Merry Christmas to you. And to you. And so with you.