TJ Hunt on Quitting YouTube, His Secret Cars, and Paying Over 360k a Year on Car Insurance 01:46:04

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All right, guys, we got a bit of an automotive YouTuber OG on the podcast today. A legend. Yeah, legend. We've been... I'll take the title. We've been really excited about this pod. So thanks for having us at your shop. Yeah, no, I appreciate you guys coming here. I feel like we've been like trying to link up to a certain degree over like a few different years. Yeah. And I'm stoked to have you guys here. There's a lot of guys in the shop who are like...

Are those C-Boys here? They're all super soaked. So, yeah, I'm honored to be on the cast, guys. Thank you. That's awesome. Yeah, it's funny. It's kind of gone full circle for us because I actually subscribed to you when you had, like, 7,000 subscribers. Whoa. Yeah, and I think I...

I found you off of Evan Shanks. He gave you a plug. He's like, yeah, this new guy, he's coming up. He's really good. And I went and started watching you, and then, you know, you've just blown up since. Isn't it crazy, like, what the community used to be like back then? Like, it was such a different world. Yeah.

I miss it oftentimes. It was just different. It was. It was simpler, but also it was just like so... I don't know. It was awesome. Yeah. It was all new too. Yeah. Exactly. It was like the first time seeing somebody build something from nothing and then watching somebody build a BRZ from stock to putting stickers on it to wheels to exhaust. It was back when like titles like...

like installing an exhaust, but do really well. Exactly. Like sticker bombing of front bumper when like now that, you know, there's so much like, I guess there's so much different forms of content, so many different people. Everyone's, it's all been done now. So you got to really raise the bar. Yeah. That's when people always ask me, they're like, how'd you do it? I'm like,

honestly, dude, think about it this way. Imagine like investing in Apple when Steve Jobs is a fucking nobody. It's like, that's what I feel like I did. Like I was in it at the right time. And it's, it's so fucking hard now. Like there's, there's, there's, I mean, you guys did a good job coming up, but you guys had a very interesting angle, which I think like really was able to like separate you guys and really like,

gave you guys that edge that allowed you guys to get the success that you guys are like that you earned but it's not easy it's very difficult now you want to know what's funny though is so

So I initially bought a camera and my plan, I was inspired by you to make car videos. I had a Subaru WRX and I quickly found out I don't have any money left to do mods with it. So I just started carrying it around and filming us. And then it was, we kind of just took this route with it. So, I mean, I guess this podcast is about me, but what, what did, what was like the first, I'm curious to know, like, what was your guys's moment of like, Oh, this is like actually creating somewhat of like a

a dollar and it was like friends were like, okay, like let's all just do this. All of a sudden I was curious to know that backstory before we really jump in. It was the third video actually. So like I said, I initially bought it to, uh,

I was going to make car videos, but I didn't have anything to film. So I started filming us on the weekends. One day, one of our buddies bought this. It's a shifter cart. I don't know if you're familiar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were ripping it around, and I was just filming it. And we'd made a couple of videos before that. And I just remember my hand shaking. I was like, this is gold. This is going to be good on YouTube. And we spent like two weeks editing it and put it up and maybe got like, you know, a little bit of views over time and started making money. And then we were just like,

let's keep doing this yeah but dude it got like 10 000 views 20 000 views 30 000 views and we're like oh dude we are famous yeah we thought we were viral we have gone viral we're like 50 000 views i remember like looking at lunch and seeing it like rolling over like 50 000 i'm like boys we made what do we even do with all the success yeah i think it made like a thousand bucks and then flip that thousand bucks into a new camera better camera and you know just

started an llc because you know it's like are you a personal or business yeah you got to go from that route so we had like seven best friends at the time so we just started a seven person llc and we're just like we're doing it but then we're like how do we split the money because we made 800 bucks that december yeah and we're like what do we do with it we're like fuck it let's just donate all of it so we don't have to fight over damn that's smart yeah so i mean it was a good start but dude

I will, I remember the exact spot I was sitting when CJ was like, yeah, dude, have you ever heard of the YouTuber TJ Hunt? I was like, no. And he's like, I just subscribed to him. He's got like 8,000 followers. And I was like, oh, no way.

do you make money on YouTube? I was like that person asking that question now that we... Actually, you don't get it that much anymore. I guess, I mean, fuck, if that was back when I had 8,000 subs, that was like 15, 16, 17 years ago, something like that. It would have been like 2014, maybe 2013. Dude, at that time, YouTube was so undiscovered. It was. Making money from that was such a foreign concept. Social media was nowhere near what it was today. So, yeah, it's... Even when I started making money, I was like...

When is it going to stop? Like when it started adding up every month and it just starts climbing, it's a very trippy thing. You always have that in the back of your head. You're worried about it, but...

Yeah, I think you've done such a good job, though, at creating a brand that's not TJ Hunt. Yeah. The Hunt & Company and your merchandise. And then I remember CJ being like, yeah, dude, he's got merchandise, the Hunt & Company. And that's how he, like, makes his money. And I was like, oh, my God, I never even thought of that. You could start a brand and then promote it on YouTube and now everyone's got it. It's such a rabbit hole now. I mean, you guys understand at this point, but, like,

it quickly like came from okay like i'm making like x amount of money from videos and i have this audience and they're just you know it like started to click when i started getting people like reach out for me to like promote like their products whatever and i'm like why does everyone keep asking me to promote certain and then realizing okay you have a demographic that's valuable and then learning how to like and then i got really involved i got really interested in like the business side and how can you use

that platform or that audience or that demographic, how can you use that to like build something or and I started like looking like back at like like rappers who got super, super popular and like what did they do with their fame in like rap culture and how did they use that to branch out to start like

And it's very common with like sports players, like rappers. And then you look in like our field of like motorsport and then it's Ken Block, Travis Pastrana, Von Gittin. And I like started studying. And then that's when like Uncompany came and like learned about investing and learned about marketing.

That's kind of what like birth straight hunter and and it was like trying to build something larger because you know videos are are great But it's it's always tough when there's I always like say there's there's always like a ten-year-old Whistling diesel out there and you every year goes on he gets a little older and then there's another ten-year-old and there's no general then like a lot was only gonna be so big for so long so like what can you do to like make your

I don't know, legacy there. Like what, how can you like invest farther than just like,

For sure. Yeah, we talk about that all the time of how do we create a product that will outlive, you know, just our YouTube channel. Yeah. But how do you not lose the authenticity of what you're doing right now and then make it seem like, dude, I'm just making videos to promote this or like something like that, which at the end of the day, people see through that and you don't want that to be in and you kind of always want to, you know, keep your core demographic happy with, you know,

you know, what you're producing, not just product wise. Yeah. And now it's a really good example of that. Yeah. They kill it at that. And they've managed to, you know, create different revenues from happy dad to merch, but then their podcast and then they still make their main channel videos. Yeah. I think when, when people like really look at certain channels and they kind of see how they're structured, like on a business like perspective, it's like kind of the first time they say they're like, Oh shit. Like it's not just like, think about it. Like for the

For the most part, every large creator or creation team will have like a main of like some sort of like clothing or some sort of like merchandising. And then they have a spinoff or not even a spinoff, but like another branch that's like a consumable to a certain degree, whether it's food, whether it's like Street Hunter, like there's usually a main and then like,

After that a couple years once they learn how that flows they create a second that like okay What do I love to do that's like somewhat within my demographic obviously no partying and drinking it goes hand in hand but Like again Logan Paul Maverick then started prime KSI same thing then started prime I just I became very obsessed with like figuring out what that formula was and how they were doing it and why they were doing it and then I was like

And then like you fall in love with it and then it kind of becomes again, like authenticity is very important if you're just like shoving messaging and branding and people's faces and like losing out on what you're doing, then yeah, there's a very fine balance to that. But, um,

It's a deep hole. I feel like the personality trait of someone who wants to create and grow a YouTube channel, also it transfers into business really well. Like they have the same, I want to grow businesses, I want to start other projects. Because you have to be to create a YouTube channel and keep it going. Yeah, to be successful, I think you've got to have the knack. Exactly. Yeah, well, you do now. Yeah, nowadays. Yeah, to stay competitive or...

um to really like outlive that into like right there's like making a living and then there's like you know how do you like make a serious operation and at that point like you know you could transform do whatever you want because i mean whatever capital is there and have fun with it you've been around for a long time what is it almost has it been a decade or almost not yet not yet almost though well fuck

It's got to be close. Maybe. It's got to be close. I was going to say, I was uploading videos in 2013, I think. But that channel is like, I've had that channel since middle school. So there's some like older shit on there. But since it like really started, I don't know, 2014-ish. So fucking close to 10 years. So do you mind going back a little bit and kind of just telling us how you got your start? Yeah. Because you got a pretty interesting story, if I remember correctly. Yeah. As to, you know, getting going. Yeah. So I played competitive hockey.

Until I was... Nice, I did too. Yeah, really? Okay. So I played until I was 19, stopped at Junior A. And so we were always on the road traveling. We sold AAA pretty much from squirts all the way to midgets and then Junior A.

So always on the road, always traveling. How is hockey in California? Sorry, a little super competitive. Really? That's no offense, but surprising to me. It doesn't seem like a... So whenever we would go to nationals or we did like junior Olympics, like usually like the good states to watch out for would be like Michigan and like... You never played Minnesota? No.

Not that I remember. Dude, you ever seen... There's a lot of good teams out of Minnesota. I mean, that's culture there. You ever seen the Minnesota State Hockey Tournament for high school? I did, and I recently saw a TikTok of them jumping on the ice after, I think it was. It was nutty. I mean, they fill up the entire stadium. A way different fucking culture than here, but it's very competitive here. I believe you. We have the Ducks select team, LA Kings select. Obviously, the goals, you have the AHL team, which is the farm team for the Anaheim Ducks. Yeah.

Very, very competitive here. Huge hockey state. That's so surprising. Yeah, I know. People are like, what? It's got to be nice. You wear your shorts to the rink. Yeah. Oh, shorts and flops, and that's about it. There's got to be the draw to it, too. It's so different. You've got to be like, man, that sounds exciting to try. In Minnesota, it's like, no, you just grow up. You just play. You've got boots on your feet. You're up there. No outdoor hockey here, though. No. Every once in a while. I suppose rollerblades, huh? Yeah, rollerblade teams. Our high school didn't have an ice hockey team, but we had a roller hockey team.

Really? Yeah. That's so weird to me. It's weird. So like there, I don't know of any high school teams here, maybe like the super rich private schools that are like 50 grand a year here to go to like might have one, but roller hockey is, is what is what's here. But there's, there's a bunch of ice rinks here. There's just in our area that just from here within like 30,

30 minutes was like maybe five different rinks so you're playing hockey so playing hockey and when we were growing up like through that like we could never like go have fun we were always stuck in the hotel room like maybe the hotels they give us like the conference room we could all this fuck around in there so like from a very early on i started watching youtube in middle school and then i got a macbook and we would just make like funny youtube videos like with the team like just stupid fucking shit which a lot of stuff i've had to taken down because a lot of my teammates that are all in the nhl now and they're like hey really my name for prospecting like it's

our videos. Can you please remove them? Really? It's cool, dude. Yeah. It's like Demco, the starter for Canucks. Okay. Played with Demco our whole entire fucking life. Wow. Trey, there's Tyler Moy. Wow. So you had to have been on a really good team then. I mean, if you got guys going to the NHL. We all, like, I thought I was playing, so that's part of the story. Like, I thought I was going to the NHL 100%, like, without a question. That's where we were headed. And,

I'll get to it, but I had so many concussions. I couldn't put on weight. I was super fast. I could like make plays, but I was just, I was getting fucking rocked junior day. I got into like two fights and I was like, don't have the size for this, but regardless started making videos and I was really young.

So I learned how to like edit and shit, like on a very early age, a basic platform. And then I've always like loved cars when I was younger, like exotics and stuff. Cause San Diego, a bunch of exotics, bunch of money here. So like I would go down to like the exotic dealerships and just like, yeah, this like Mercedes, Diablos, Vipers, shit like that.

Then when I like got to be 16, was super stoked on getting licensed, got a car, immediately started like do basic shit like taillight tints, plasti dip. You know the fucking game. Yeah. Start. Yeah.

Yeah, and then, never made YouTube videos, but was, like, super involved in, like, the online forums. Are you guys old enough to know? Yeah, I used to always try to figure out wheel specs or, like, you know. Just, like, toxicity on the internet before YouTube. Yeah, I'd get reamed. But luckily, there was no, like, really connection. Like, I just had, like, a... There wasn't? It was like a game retake. Like, it wasn't even my name. So, I'd just, like, ask a stupid question, get reamed.

Go fucking to general I just would scroll I swear I learned so much on the forums though Same so that's why I learned all my basic shit So Long story short That's where I kind of got my information and then after high school I was with a girl that I was with for like four or five years And then she broke up with me like

freshman year of college or something like that and like rolled upside down this is like the typical story oh i'm gonna marry this girl like i've known her whole family like my my life's mapped out bullshit um and i was like gutted was like super depressed like i'm already like a skinny guy lost a bunch of fucking weight my friends like hey dude like this is like six months now and like we're getting a little bit concerned here and then kind of like transformed that and started to like

Learn about like self-help, self-improvement and like certain motivational talkers that kind of help like reroute your mindset and like law of attraction and that route. That's like what I like grasp to. Frequencies and everything. Yeah. Like just kind of like the power of like your mind and like understanding, you know, that type of shit. So yeah.

from that point was like i'm gonna start new shit i like was going i would go to like a pottery class and just try anything i started surfing started like skating more like would you like the most random ass fucking shit just like do something like it was bad imagine if you would have became who you are today but through pottery you're just the goat of pottery have you seen those like accounts on tiktok where it's like these like dudes and chicks just like

hand fucking pottery. I get down the rabbit holes all the time. That's like me and I'm all buff and shit. Coiled up. With just the apron on. Could have been me. Could have been shit. So started to like

Kind of get my feet moving a little bit and then found YouTube again and started watching like couples YouTube like this is like og YouTube like BF first GF Yeah, Jesse and Jesse Gina like that type of shit with like daily and it's like daily uploading was like the thing and Then I was like watching couples and shade and you're like, oh I'm like a part of them I miss that type of like like self like loathing type shit Then I was like fuck like I like cars. I like YouTube. I know how to edit

to edit like what's on the car world and at that point it was just Evan Shanks that dude in blue Dr. M3

super speeders rob and i was like kind of it like that was it and it was all just them when you would be in the driver's seat and you have a camera filming you just a gopro and you're just talking or car review hardly even any cuts no yeah yeah very like basic uh and that was just like the culture at that time and it was never like about the person it was about only about them hosting what they're talking about like period that was it

So then I started filming some shit, like tried to just copy what they were doing, car reviews, this and that. And then I was like, oh, okay, like that's cool. But like, I don't have any money. Let me start filming me and my friends. Similar story. And then started filming more and more and then got a BRZ.

And then started filming shit on that and would post that shit, like, on Facebook, forum pages. I'd get blocked on the forums. Everyone was shit-talking me on the forums. And it just kind of, like, started building and building and building. And there wasn't ever, like, a moment that popped. But it was, like, I eventually started uploading three times a week when I was in college, like, delegating all my time. And then, like, one summer...

when I had maybe like 15,000 subs, like was on summer break, doubled down, started like uploading like almost every day and then started making like three grand a month, four grand a month. And then that four grand a month jumped to like 10 Gs. I'm like, what the fuck? I still have the screenshots on my like YouTube AdSense account. I'm tripping out. And then it was like, oh, okay. I just made like,

13, 15 grand at the end of summer, I'm gonna go back to my job and I was in the nursing program at my school and then nurses here make like 100 G's a year and I'm like, I'm making more right now, allegedly, if I continue this than if I wasn't on nursing and I went back to school, saw like the syllabus for that semester and was like, I can't fucking keep up six videos in this trip and this trip and I was like traveling, meeting other YouTubers all summer and

And I just, like, freaked the fuck out. And I walked out of class. And, like... What year were you in school that year? My junior year. So you were in. I mean, it wasn't, like, freshman sophomore year. I was in. And I was, like...

50 grand in debt in college in college debt um yeah I just walked out and I was like uh uh just on the chance of yeah and you at that point you were like I'm gonna be a youtuber full time well it was more it wasn't like I'm gonna be a youtuber at the time because like it was still such a foreign concept it wasn't like a like you know like there's third graders are like I wanna be a

when I grow up. Like that wasn't a thing then. So it was more like, fuck, I'm just doing really well now. If I slow down, I'll never know what could have been. And that thought scared the shit out of me. So I was like, fuck.

fuck it like I like I was really good friends with in the fitness world I don't know how connected you guys are but like Christian Guzman Max Tuning Alphalete Sour Strips like they own those brands good friends of them and I was like Christian dropped out of college too the owner of Alphalete wildly successful like one of the probably biggest success stories on YouTube like

of creating business and learning how to like do build that but he was like hey dude my thought was like youtube's now and college is forever if i fucking fail i can just go back and i was like

Yeah. We had the same thing. So it was still that leap of faith. And then, of course, it fucking lights up after that and you're like, what the fuck was I doing here? And, you know, then the rest was history. Yeah, dude. We kind of did the same thing with, like, the college look on that. Whereas, like, yeah, we have this...

golden egg right now. Yeah. If we don't give it enough time, what could happen to it? But like, weren't making any money. Like, I remember when I dropped out. So you guys were in college, most of you. Yeah. Yeah. But like dropping out and still not having any revenue for like, or getting paid for like a year. I was like, fuck.

fuck man maybe this was a bad idea damn yeah that's that's a little more risky than my move for sure but i was young too like i was a sophomore so a little bit younger okay and uh like 20 and when you're like 20 you don't really have that many expenses so it's like better to take risk when you're like super young 100 yeah i remember when i i bought my gtr and i was still living at home

Um, I didn't move out. I was like very, very, very like everything in the business, everything in the business. I stayed home until I was 21 and I had a shop across the street here. Even then when I was living with my parents and I was like trying to keep all my expenses as low as possible. And I, I had some, I maybe when I bought my R35, I probably had like

fuck, maybe like 150 in the bank, maybe. My car was 80 grand at that point, so I spent like half my money. I didn't buy it cash, but just dumb moves that thankfully worked out. Well, they were investments into the business too. It was. I don't remember how well the shit did, but

And back to your point when you're younger, yeah, you're more like, fuck it, which is true. You got to take risks. That's the best time to do it. I mean, that's no secret. So do you... I remember back when you were at your parents' house, you had your vision board. Yep. And you'd always show it. Yep. And you'd knock things off the list. Do you still do your vision board? I do as well. Yeah. It's fundamental. Exactly. I think especially in this world, you can get so caught up in so much bullshit. And if you...

I'm not like weird with it, but I'm very in touch with it. I still journal to myself. I'll write to myself at least once a month. That's like, hey, right now, this is what's important to you. This is what we're working towards, whether it's a monetary goal or a business goal or a personal life goal. I'm not at home at all right now. I'd really like to at least get 30 hours a week where I'm like,

At home i'm with sabrina i'm with my friends i'm with my parents i'm not just so sucked into this And kind of falls in line with the vision board. I just think it's I mean i'm preaching to the choir here You guys know how like just ridiculous it is 24 7 and uh, it's so easy to get lost Yeah, I don't know once like you like on my vision board like i've gotten everything i've ever wanted and like even still sometimes you're like

all right i'm not really fulfilled yet like what the fuck like i've bought like the mansion i've bought in every supercar i could ever think of i have more in the account than i like whatever foresee i'm not like why do now do i want something three times as much yeah it's like and then it's like okay so the journaling kind of helps like i still have like my when i first started

like my original vision board that probably like you're thinking of like what my goal was and it was like 10 grand a month and like financial freedom and like i was like that's all i care about and if there's ever a moment where i'm like well i need more it's like check yourself like there's time's the most valuable thing yeah wildly and important i i think um but it's that just kind of helps

keep me in check i feel do you go back and look back at them are you yeah always moving yeah no i'm moving forward yeah yeah i know i said it i was like i don't know like i'm like you no i i always go back i'll read my journals from like dude i i have like this journal again that i still write and then it's i have like shit like like congratulations like like you just made like

you know, 20 grand this month and I'm like 22 or something like, good job. Like you're like, you finally made it. And like, I like talk about the struggles, even like when I was still getting over, like that breakup that kind of like kicked me off. And I think like going back in or like, I still have videos that are like dear 25 year old me. I have a dear 30 year old me. It's going to come out and like,

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And I just kind of like, I just, I think it's just the only thing that can keep yourself, like, and this goes for like, whether you like, you know, people that are listening, you know, people that are listening to you, you know, people that are listening to you, you know, people that are listening to you, you know,

It has nothing to do with like, oh, write it to yourself if you're like wildly successful like monetarily. Like it has nothing to do with that but it's just like as we grow older, like as we get older, we mature, like there's like all these new stresses and anxieties and like there's relationship shit, there's financials, there's like taxes, there's like economy, there's all these things that can like

cloud us from remembering like what's important because like have you ever seen those weird things when you're young they're like how a like an eight-year-old like perceives the world and it's like vibrant and there's colors and you hear all these things as you get older it's like a little duller and duller and soon you forget like what was important then that type of shit like that psychology of things fucks me up

So I just, I really like am so interested and invested in like remembering what,

you care about once like you have the world at your fingertips. Cause then you get distracted. Right. What do you care about now? Like what keeps you going? You said you've, you've achieved everything that you put on your vision board. So what keeps you motivated? The last year it's like family, like starting a family. Um, it's Sabrina. Um, for those who don't know, it's like, Sabrina's with me for like six years now. Like we're finally like, okay, like,

finally getting into that like marriage and and family and starting that next wave she also has had like a huge health scare the past like three years she's diagnosed with cancer and it's that was like a really big pivotal part where it was like fuck like all the money in the world all the cars in the world like all the shit and then like one thing happens and it's like whoa none of that matters and we like we all like know that but like when it happens you're like oh

None of it matters. So to me, like what's most important is like, am I spending enough time with her? Like I'll give up like X amount of views a month. I want to do, I'll give up like X amount of revenue. I'll give up like, Hey, I'm not going to do this event. I'm not going to travel to this event. Like, am I at least getting an X amount of time? Am I like,

devoting that to us because like when I thought that like there was an X amount of short window that I'd have with her like Everything changed. So like what's most important now is like I want to like make sure that when I'm More or less ready to like peace out like I have everything we need to like focus on us Go where the fuck we want not worry about anything and just focus on us and our family. I

Do you have a timeline of how long you want to do this? I have no idea. I was literally just talking about this like,

Beginning of the year. I'm like, okay I'm finally at the point where like I've had everything I've wanted like my biggest thing I've wanted to do is I build my race program and like I don't want to drive FD I don't want to go and compete and do all that stuff like from a kid I'm like, oh I want to have a like a professional program I want to have my own hauler. I want to have my own like full rig. I want to have my full staff I want to be able to show up drive. I want to have the dream partners. That's like hey, I

You're getting paid a lot of fucking money to do this and you just show up and do it now. So kind of like Ken Block. Now I'm here. I'm like, cool. Like, like I have every fucking partner I could ever want. And I'm like, I want to enjoy it now. But once now that I'm here, I'm like, I'm so tired. It took so much. I gave up so much of myself for,

To get here. Now I love it. To a fucking bloody pulp. Like I'll kill myself again to get here. But it took so much of like my soul. To get here. And gave up so much of the past like 10 years. I'm like okay. I need to like find the balance. This year we're doing like 14 driving events. In seven months. And it's usually like a four to five day venture. Like Good Life is an example. So I leave and come back.

So you like do the math, look at how much you're on the road and say, cool. Like you've always wanted this, but to have that, it takes this much fucking time. Yeah. This much effort, this much away from this business and this business and this business and this much away from family. And then you're like, fuck, is that what I want? Is it better to be like,

showing up to the track with an open trailer and like six fucking scrubs on a stock z and just ripping or is it better to show up in a million dollar race hauler with a hundred tires and three spare motors and a full fucking team and all the stress and all the stress that comes with it and then you dial back and you go and you talk to people like

Vaughn or I've had conversations with Ken and it's like okay. Hey, you're here, but like now what's the balance? Mm-hmm. Where does that come in? Then it's like, okay, you're here you establish yourself and now it's like hey I'm gonna give up this much like this is what it's gonna take out of me on the corporate partnership side and I'm like like speaking in third person like on the TJ hunt side and

What am I gonna give up at home? What am I gonna give up on YouTube? What am I gonna give up on how many uploads I'm gonna do? Meetings I'm gonna have at Street Hunter. Development plans I'm gonna have with Hunt & Company. What am I gonna do on meeting out on certain fundamental shareholder meetings to do that? And what family time as well. And then you say, hey, I'm gonna do this. TJ Hunt's gonna do these events as TJ Hunt, but because of that

Hey, all the other businesses that like kind of developed that you're going to have me this much less this year. And if you're not okay with that, we need to have a conversation. You only spread yourself so thin. Yeah. Do you feel like you almost become like a slave to the lifestyle that you create? And I have friends that are more successful that are, and then you go and you see them.

And you're like, hey, dude, like off camera, like not even on and off camera and not even YouTubers alone, but just like professionals in very high other elements of any type of world. And you're like, hey, dude, what's up? And they're just like, hey, dude, what's up? I'm like, dude, like it's been so long. And it's like, yeah, man. Yeah. You just tell there's a lot weighing on. And you're like, dude, the fucking soul is gone out of them. And there's some that I have friends with, some that have like realized that, fix it, come back. And they're like, dude, like,

it's too thin like i i'm not like the body's there but like the inside that wanted it it's like just gutted and it's like that eight-year-old perspective ripped ripped out of him like how much of a slave to the game

do you need to take to have that? Because it's just a fact. Unless you have a billion dollars that was given to you and you don't, you can't have, you can't have both. No, you can't. You gotta work. Nope, 100%. You have, there is a, like, if we want to call it a slave to the job, like, there is that to a certain degree. And again, everyone loves what they do. I don't think you get that

to that success level. If you don't truly love it and you're like, well, this is what I want to do anyway. But when it's all you're doing, like 130 hours a week, whatever, how many hours are on a week and you never stop and you never like take that for yourself or the family or find the other things that recharge you. Yeah. It's like,

You're like, what's the point? Right. Dude, I mean, Ryan says all the time, but he always is like, you got the boat, but you don't have time to drive it or take it out on the lake or you got the, you know, whatever. It goes with anything. You got the big house, but you never get to use it because you're always out on the road working. And that's like what you're saying right now. You're totally on a – you're way, way more successful than me, but I'm trying to just be more present, like just –

enjoy the moment, not be like stressing, like, okay, what do we got to do next? What we got to do next? Cause like, just, you're right. It just takes it out of you. I mean, and to define success, I don't view it like that. You guys have a lot of things going for you that like,

And I have some shit like whoever the fuck's doing you guys's thumbnails who's doing that means you Photoshop Conversation that's actually might be the nicest thing you've ever Spent a lot of time on fucking Anthony in there. Do I have him fucking start your show? I'm like I noticed you were doing some new ones at the beginning and I'm just like that's a that's all different conversation but

A great example is like I have 30 something cars. I drive four of them. Yeah. Bro, you got 30 cars? Yeah. That's crazy. Where do you keep them all? So I have some the channel doesn't know. I have some that the channel, well, obviously the ones that the channel knows and I have a lot overseas. Really? That I've been like just collecting and buying and just like importing when they're legal. So when will your R34 be able to come? You have an R34, don't you? Yeah. Or is that not known?

No, I do. I have a Bayside Blue, one. Okay. So when's that going to be here? I might just keep it in Japan. Really? Dude, how is Japan? I want to go over there. Dude, I will fucking go with you guys if you cut out the time. I was supposed to go at the end of this month for Matsuri and Ebisu and drifting there. You guys have never been to Japan? No. Fucked.

Dude, we haven't been. Oh my God. Is it cool? Yeah. Yeah, dude. It's the fucking best place in the world. What if you're not like a massive JDM guy? Okay. That's like the JDM is a big appeal to it, but just like the culture, like the, this, the, the,

Everything there, it's just so different than the States. But, like, if we went there and we... You guys know what Ebisu is? No. Motherfucker, what? We're so uncultured. Okay. Well, I guess you guys aren't, like, super into drifting. No. Oh, wait. No, yes, I have heard of that. I just didn't know that's how it was pronounced. Yeah, Ebisu. So that's, like, where I was the last time I was in Japan, like, two months ago. I spent, like, a week up in the mountains. Have...

I have a car there that's just a little JZX drift missile. And there's like a track...

track up way in the fucking mountains looking over the countryside of japan and there's a zoo inside the track like the owner of ebasu he's very very successful well off he has like this animal zoo and there's like eight different tracks all around ebasu and you can store your car there you guys can buy a car there and like they maintain it for you so you just show up arrive and drive and they'll do your tire changes for you and you just rip what's that cost to have them

Maintain it. Warehouse it. You have to buy it from their inventory, so they always have cars for sale that they'll pick up. So you can just buy... Dude, my JZX was like 13 grand. And that's like...

It's like all you fucking need. It's a 1J. Tires are relatively cheap compared to the States there. And it's like, I don't know. I don't know exactly how much it is to maintain a year. But it's relatively cheap. And if you guys bought like two fucking cars there, three cars there, you guys would all go out there. And you can... There's skid pads. And it's all right-hand drives. You have to learn how to drive on the other side. That takes a second to learn all that. But you guys would have a fucking blast. Dude, I'm in. Dude, like you guys would...

Oh my God. I can't. What's the best season? When should we go? Like literally the end of this month. It's like spring. It's like, so the snow's like just melting and then it's like, it will be like, it will get fucking hot in like the summertime. But like right now it's like spring. That's when like all the Americans start to go over there to Ebisu. It's like more fucking Americans. Is it tough?

navigating around being or do you not know the language? It is. I'm really close with a company called Top Rank that deals with like importing. That's right by all my JDM shit. That's why like all my cars over there in Japan about all to them. So they like are always like our liaison and will like show us where to go. But now we're friends with so many people there. Like when I go there, if I just, I literally get to the airport, they pick me up, drive me to their like big,

I get the keys to my 34, and I just, like... I'm like, all right. I'll fucking see you guys in a couple days. I'll drive up to the track, grab that car. I'll come back, stop out for another car. And I know where I'm going now, where, like, you just pop up Google Maps, and as long as you have, like, the address, you're fine. But, dude, if I will fucking... You let us know when we will... I will fucking take you guys up. Yeah, I'd love to. You will...

We gotta get better at driving, boys. We're not gonna show up and hit no walls. That's the perfect place to learn. Really? Like, dead ass. There's a track for all skill level. Like, all skill level. There's an open skid pad, and then there's, like, a figure eight course, and then there's, like, a larger course that's a little bit more of, like, road course, and then there's, like...

like toge like 10 foot wide mountain pass like you fall off you're dead type shit there's big entry yeah yeah um amazing but so i have cars i've been buying there for a while a lot of shit

People don't know about. And do you do it as investments? Just a cool thing that you personally want to do? Yes. You want to import them? Do you want to keep them there forever? Kind of like a mix of everything. There are certain cars, like I've been so onto the 34 market for a long time. So I started buying them up along like for a while. Other cars too that are like, you know, I've known we're going to be good investments. Yes. But also like

It's like my eight-year-old self. I always channel that. I'm like, what does he fucking want? Yeah. I'm like, I want her every color. It kind of seems like you're going back towards the JDM. You've done it all. I mean, you had the supercars and all that, but you keep sticking with the Supras and

Yeah, well, it's like I've gotten to, like, the Aventador, the Huracan, the R8, the Ferraris, the whatever. And they're really fun, but to a certain point, it gets, like, boring. Because you can't modify them? I mean, dude, the twin-turbo, Lambo, wide-body that Whistlin' has now, like, that's, like, as far – that's, like, the end of the line. You could go to 2,000 horsepower, but, like, on a street, it's just what the fuck's going on. What more do you really need? So, yeah, like, then, you know, once I've gone through that, I'm like, oh, well –

Like what's the shit that no one can get? What's the shit that's not being made? And then that, that just kind of like blossomed, like that reignited that younger self. And I was like, fucking get the Chuck book out. Like,

Just fucking fire off and just buy all the shit you could ever want. And the thing is, the rare shit that you know is good, you'll never lose your dollar on. Like, sure, maybe if the world goes upside down and currency falls away, sure, I'll lose my ass. But at that point, what the fuck's the point anyway? So it's like, oh, buy them now. I'll at least get the write-offs, get the money out of the certain accounts that you don't want to just get absolutely bent over on taxes for. And then, you know...

when you're ready to import them, you can, when you go to Japan, you can, or if you don't want them, you sell them for twice the money you bought them for. So with all these cars, do you have a, like a car dealer's license? Okay, nice. I was going to say, you'd have to. Some, some I do own a dealer's license, some I don't. Um,

I have property in other places too that can help register certain different things in different areas. We got to have a conversation after. The hardest part for us is being that we all are partners in the business. It's tough for us to go out and buy a GTR or a Lambo

through the business when it's technically like our personal car. Like for you, it's like you are the business. It's just how you set it up. It's just how you define what it's being used for. So technically you could. I mean like theoretically like Seaboys, like the company could buy any car under that company name and then, you know, depending on who's...

registered it could be a company car and you could still have like employees drive that said car wouldn't it just what's the liability look like for that like is is all my cars running like

you know, not, well, most of them are under the business. There are certain exceptions for certain things. Uh, but the liability on that is like triple my personal policy because it's like the business is worth X amount. So the coverage is like way, way, way, way, way more. But then also insurance fucked. Dude, what do you spend a month? Can you tell us? Probably like a month or a year. I don't fucking know. Whatever you want to tell us. Yeah, no, I don't mind. Um, I don't know. Probably a month anywhere from like,

there's always so many things being added and not added. I don't know, like 15 minimum to like 30 grand a month. Well, so I have shit. And then, and then we talk about, and then, well, and then we talk about dealers and then the dealer's insurance is different. So there's like, it, it varies. Um,

Yeah, but that's just the price of like, okay, I have this many cars on the roll. It's true. I want to build it at any moment, any time. You need to have it all insured. And then it's like, okay, well, if I'm going to have it on a dealer plate, I'll swap the dealer plate on it and then I'm allowed to drive that for a certain X amount. And it's ultimately just easier if you can just like write out all of it to have everything always insured. And it's also a better write-off if it's going towards something. Right, right. That's one thing we've done.

I mean, I'd say really well is literally pretty much every dollar we've ever made, we put it back into the business, which luckily we've set it up in a way where we can kind of do a little bit of everything. You guys can. You guys do so much of it. Which is great because you can be like, I want a Lamborghini and it's a great investment just like for you or it could be like,

I want a fucking three-wheeler. Yeah. And it's also just as good. Yeah. That's also the best thing for us is like, dude, yesterday, super long story, but we basically have been doing these like R6, like off-road durability test kind of things. Yeah, no, you're always saying them. We just bought our third 2007 R6. Fourth. Fourth.

well yeah so we had our third right it was brand new to us before the trip we drive out to moab have like off-road tires on it and uh we're ripping in moab a palace pass or whatever yeah oddly enough we're passing whistling diesel yeah it was the weirdest thing we were there on the same day as whistling with his uh g wagon dude oh yeah yeah yeah we're at the top of this like sketchy rock pass and we just see heavy deep coming up in his brodo's and we're like what the

the hell and then whistling diesel getting towed behind him and they keep i don't think heavy d noticed it was us and then he just kind of kept going and we look at whistling and he looks at us and we go what are you doing here he just keeps going we're like see ya that's fucking it's really funny that's cool but anyway the the front brake on the r6 brakes

Evan like tipped it over on like this rock. So then we're like way in there and we had to get it back out and going down this huge rock face in the pouring rain, keep in mind, pouring rain and he lays it over and it slides down this whole pretty much a mountain slides down this mountain.

And it was like a super fresh R6. Basically, like kind of totals it. Just written off. We get all these parts shipped out to us. We fix it. We get this custom sand paddle made. Yeah. It was crazy looking. For a crotch rocket. You know, like a dirt bike paddle tire? Yeah. Huge. So we get this sand paddle made, shipped here. We're paying expedited shipping, paying a shop to let us use it and everything. Jumping through all these steps. And we're like, all right, we got it. We're good. We're good.

We get to Glamis yesterday. Drove across the whole country. Keep in mind, we're damn near in Mexico. Glamis. Yeah. Dude, that's my backyard. Yeah, we had to travel, what, 36 hours? I mean, fuck, dude. 48 hours to get there, right? I mean. And we're like, all right, we're here. This is going to be a viral video. Nobody's taking an R6 in the sand dunes. We had this thing made. We're like, fucking finally. All right, we're here.

I put this chain on and I don't latch the master link enough. No. And the chain goes through the case. About two and a half, like from here to that corner away from the start. Yeah. We just turned it on. We filmed the intro goes to just start driving snap. And the chain goes through the case and it cracks the case and it cracks the oil filter oil everywhere. Evan just drops the bike and he's like,

you guys are fucked. What is wrong with you? And I'm immediately like, this one's on me, boys. I'm so sorry. This one's on me. It's like you take initiative to do something and fix it, and then you fuck up, and then you're like... So what did you guys do? So we immediately go on Facebook Marketplace, and we track down another R6 in Palm Springs. Oh, God.

And we drive to Palm Springs. It's not too far, but it's a hike still. It was like three hours there and then three hours to San Diego. And then we drove to San Diego last night to set up for the pod. But as I was getting to is when things go wrong like this for us, luckily, it's pretty cheap.

You go out and buy. Relatively, yeah. Relatively. So you buy this new bike, right? And I think it was like $4,500, which sucked. We were not stoked about doing it. But we were like, at least it's not a car. You know? Yeah. Like if you were another automotive. And I think about that with like, I mean, Whistlin' and Daily Driven and these guys that are like working on exotics. Mm-hmm.

Bro, you have one thing go wrong, and it's like 50... It could be 50 racks. Oh, yeah. On these super expensive cars. Yeah, you pop a motor on the Huracan. Yeah. It's been turbo shit. Yeah, you're like 40 Gs deep. Yeah, it's crazy. So... It's a different world. Anyway, we've done... You know, we kind of dabbled in a bunch of different things, and it's nice. Yeah, you guys have had car shit. You've had, like... Pranks. Bikes. Yeah. Yeah, the one where you guys...

uh wrap the car pink and put all the eyelashes and yeah that was funny that was funny yeah we watched that one here no we do all kinds of so just keep that car look pretty sick actually it did yeah it did you don't think so i thought it looked cool no we we like we're gonna set up a bet up here between me and ev and we were like yeah we'll do the same thing c boys did i'm like if i lose i'm not driving it so it's not gonna happen yeah and i just drove i just ate it drove it for 30 days really yeah dude

He was definitely the only one. It's different, though. You get like, beaked at the whole time when you're driving. Dude, you should see it in our neck of the woods. Super embarrassing. I couldn't, I couldn't, no, no way. Dude. Who's coming up with this shit? I don't know.

I guess just all of y'all. There's just too many fucking idiots that you guys are all just wanting so much good shit. Dude, we have just... At least I do. And, like, we have boards where we have so many ideas. I fucking love that. It's just like, which one can we do right now? Or which one... You know, we're planning out six weeks ahead. Yeah. I had that same conversation with Whistlin when we were, like, going back and forth for a while when we bought the Ericon. And eventually I was like, dude, how am I...

How you gonna keep it up? How much shit can you fucking do? He's like, whoa, let me tell ya. And he's like, all this shit. And I'm like...

dude you gotta you gotta mind yeah it's crazy though because yeah oh my gosh and it normally it comes it not at our expense but they'll just look and they'll go all right how can we mess with one of the guys and it's perfect because we have the group to go back around yeah dude nobody's safe it's nobody ever dude the other but it's all for everyone's own benefit you know you might get punked but i mean it's it's helping you in the end that's how you guys justify you're like but it's but it's for the

Business, guys. 100%. I've been trying to save Ken's life recently. He's a vapor. A vapist. A vapist. I hired a hypnotist. Vapenish. Vapenish.

Hired a hypnotist. Didn't work. Ended up putting his face on a hypnotist. Had him come to the shop to hypnotize him. Didn't work. Ended up just settling for a billboard in town with his number and his face on it. Which his number was already leaked. So it was like he needed a new number anyways. I'll give you a really good idea. Hire an exorcist. Maybe you have a... Jesus! Oh my gosh, bro. Dude.

I've given up. That's a solid one. I told him to take him to rehab, but he freaked out. Yeah, that'd be too far. Oh, show what he did when he painted it. Go to my page. Oh, my God. You got to see this, actually. This is the best. He went and... That was your actual number? Like, dead ass, that was your real number? Yeah, he had to get a new one. This is a week later. What? What?

And then the cops showed up. Cops showed up. Because they thought people were vandalizing it. No way. Dude, that's fucking gold. Yeah, I was pretty proud of that one. That's amazing. Oh, my God. We just came from Denver. We have a buddy that lives in Colorado there, and we bought him this three-wheeler. Dude's a three-wheeler nut. Loves three-wheelers. Loves three-wheelers. So we buy him, like, the most legendary three-wheeler. I saw some shit on TikTok of, like, some dude...

showing up with a three-wheeler somewhere. Maybe. Yeah. It wasn't from you guys. It was like someone posting your shit. Yeah. It was like viral. And I was like something about it. When we locked them in the U-Haul? No. Or a different one. You guys were like out in the fucking sticks somewhere. I don't know. It's probably where we live. Yeah. I can't recall what it looked like, but it was something about like

Some dude and a three-wheeler meeting up with you guys, and it was viral for some reason. I don't know, man. We've done a lot of shit. You start to lose track. I bet. I don't even remember what we did three weeks ago. Two weeks ago. I feel that. I don't know what I had for breakfast this morning. I'm right there with you. Keep moving forward. Yeah, dude. I tried, man. Trademark that. Wait, did you guys play hockey? I did, yeah. Just you. All that. But I actually had a really bad concussion story, too. Really? And that's kind of how...

this all also all got started. I, you know, just was sitting there. I was at my lowest point. Um, and, uh, just started thinking like, what do you really want to do? Yeah. And, uh, yeah. So I always say similar to you, like, you know,

When you're at, like, rock bottom or down there. Yeah. It's kind of a blessing in disguise because you only got one way to go and it's up. You're your most creative when you have that destiny. And you don't have anything else to lose. Yeah. No, 100%. So, like, you might as well just send it. Yeah. Take some risks, you know? 100%. 100%. I mean, exactly what you said. There's nothing you can lose at that point. Like, you're already in the fucking shit, so. Exactly. But... Oh, I was going to say, it's funny, though, because...

So, like, Whistlin, for instance, he spends $400,000 on this Ferrari, and he'll hopefully make four videos from it. And, you know, he's definitely making way more money, but he also has more cost. More cost, and I'm curious to know what his demonetization looks like. I think he's pretty careful about it. I would imagine. You have to be when you're playing with that much money. I don't know.

I don't think he's getting demonetized. I know he had an issue with his... He's had multiple videos getting demonetized. Nowadays, though. I know his Ferrari vid got demonetized for a second and he just privated it. Got it worked out with YouTube and then put it back up because he couldn't... I don't blame him either. He's a genius in his own way. He's taken an approach to an extreme that no one had done before. But yeah, oftentimes I'm like,

I remember when he bought the Lambo, I was like, so like, are you going to like really write this car off? How much you fucking spent? You're just going to write this car off, which was, I don't know if he's ever said how much it was, but more than, cause considerably more than a million bucks. Was that considerably more than the F8? Um, and he was like, nah, nah, I'm not fucking. Were you worried? No, it's just a car. It's like that car bought me like my dream, like my ultimate number one car that any like eight year old TJ could ever have. And what was that? I haven't shown it. Oh,

Oh, really? I can show you guys off camera. We've been building it for over a year. Dude, that's so cool that you're doing stuff like that, keeping some things to yourself. Because I'd also imagine you're driving around out here. Everyone's noticing your cars. Yeah, everyone's. I'll give credit to Cletus because that's where I got it from. I remember going out to his house like three years ago, and I was like, who's fucking Porsche's that in the corner? He goes, oh, that's mine. I'm like, you bought a car? Did it make a video? He goes, yeah, it's just nicer sometimes just to be in full cognizant. I was like,

Right. So he just doesn't strike me as a Porsche guy. I was going to say that's also interesting. It was a, it was a, I think it was a nine, it was a nine, nine, seven turbo all black with murdered windows stock. Nice. And I was like, fuck. Okay. Yeah, cool. And that was kind of like, I was like, not a bad idea. What do you think of the GT three RS? The nine, nine, two or nine, nine, one, nine, nine, one. I am like on the fence. I'll buy another one any day. Like I've already had one.

favorite car I've ever owned, but I purple, purple, purple one. But I bought that car at the same time. I bought like the G wagon four by four squared, which again, fucking super cool car. Yeah. That was the highlighter. I wanted to buy that only reason. Yeah. So I, I, I bought those when the market was low. I'm like really, I'm like super obsessed with car market and like,

Car market is really like based off of like economic market and like what certain loans are looking like and whatever, whatever. So I'm like, I'm very like in tune with that. And I remember when the market was going down, I was like, dude, these are going to be two fucking stick buys. I'm really close with Hunter from West Coast Exotics. So like we just like are nonstop. I could literally show you my text to them. We're always going back and forth with cars.

And the UV, I know it's, it's a problem. Our guys just kick us in the nuts. Yeah. We just lose money. Dude, I'll hook you guys up. I'll hook you boys up. Like literally, I love that. There's, there's another UV part we're looking at literally like the other day with like full MSR. Like all we do is like talk cars.

But regardless, best fucking car in the world. I like it more than the DOT 2 only because of the UB purple. But why are you thinking about getting one? You should fucking do it. I'll talk you into it, so be careful. I was going to get one before I got the Huracan. Oh, it's... Huracan. As you call it. Whatever, same thing. It's such a better car than the Huracan. I should... Is it really? Fuck yeah. I guess...

Fuck yeah, dude. The only thing that I didn't buy it, or I guess the reason I went towards the Lambo is because it's a Lambo. I was going to say because you wanted the Lambo. Yeah. And like, dude, around us...

You don't see Lambos anywhere. No one's ever seen it. They go nuts. None in the area. And I just think it just kind of adds to the aura of like a YouTuber in the area. I get it. Not really that that means anything, but it's just fun. It does to a certain degree. Like it fills your cup in a certain way that like checks that box. And like, that's what makes some cars. People will be like, oh, he, they're doing it. But that,

that aside, like if that, if that like is a, I don't want to call it like a justification, but if that is a reminder of like, Hey, I worked fucking hard. This is what I can accomplish. And if it has a Lambo badge on the steering wheel, then sick. But like when you come down, when it, when you boil it down to like motorsport and what drives better. And like, as I've gotten like larger and I've been able to like take motorsport more seriously, and I've actually got to learn how to drive, have their appreciated cars in a different way. Um,

And then it makes the Huracan feel like garbage. Really? You drive an RS and you're like, oh my God. It's just amazing. It's amazing. Yeah, but you guys have roads around here that you can like properly drive them on. Okay. 9-11 in Minnesota or Huracan in Minnesota. Yeah, that's true. Way worse to drive the Huracan in Minnesota. Yeah, I suppose. I don't know. It's an amazing car.

market right now is actually like fairly decent on them. What do you think the car market is at right now? Because I feel like it's just changing. It's at a low right now. You'd say it's a low? Oh, it's for sure at a low. It was like really high like the past like two years. Dude, R35s went from 2010 R35 with 60,000 miles went from 50 grand, 55 grand to back to like 90. I remember I bought my GTR R35 back in like 2010.

It was like a 2017. I spent 78 grand on it. Wow. Which was like pretty like low then. And like five years later, that same car, had it been for sale today, would have been 110 grand. Mm-hmm. That doesn't happen in a two-year shift. Just the economy went fucking crazy when they started giving money out to everyone. Yeah.

Now everyone's like, fuck, I'm out of that money. What the fuck am I going to do? Inflation's back up, and now interest rates are back up, and everything's tanking. So right now it's at, like, a pretty big low. You think it's going to keep going down a little bit more? I don't know. I don't really. I mean, like, we're, like, borderline in a recession, depends on who you talk to right now. It's different, too, because, like, certain cars obviously –

I don't know about the GTR, but if they're discontinuing, I would imagine they might just stay. I don't know. Are they? I thought I heard that. When you said GTR, I thought you meant like R34s. I was like the R34s had a record sale, the Millennium Jade, like M-Spec. I guess I was saying R35. But yeah, R34s for sure are going to just kind of stay where they're at, if not go up. No, they for sure will go up a lot. Dude, they just all went. Two weeks ago, Millennium Jade.

M-Spec nerd just sold for a million dollars. That's crazy, dude. A million bucks. Do you find that a lot of vehicles that you want, you can't justify because it just wouldn't be a good YouTube car? Or are you just like, at the point, fuck it? So, like, it kind of goes back to what my content reflects...

This year, I've been down this road of like, all right, I'm going to build what I think will do well or I'm going to build what I think will do well on thumbnails or what we're able to do. And I've just gotten kicked in the ass so many times where I just haven't been able to make it work or we try to do something and it just didn't get the result that I wanted. And then it ends up me texting. Me and LZ are super close. I text LZ, I'm like,

fuck dude i can't figure out this shit i whatever and then and then like adam is such a prime i don't know how i just tangent in adam but adam does such a good job but like i'm just gonna build whatever i think is fucking cool like i don't care if it if it does well or not and like that has been such a good recipe for him so now at this point i'm like i don't care what it's what the views are gonna do like i'm already i respect that but also you can't really do that coming up

Coming up, you can't. Yeah, that's the thing. I agree. So like, again, my perspective. Now you have the opportunity. I'm like, okay, I'm here. Like you have this certain like corporate sponsors to like help. And that's a whole different fucking side of the argument. But now I'm like this year, we're strictly building exactly what I want. Just like, I think this is cool if no one likes it and it doesn't do X amount of views. Yeah.

fuck it. Like whatever. Like I, at least I'm enjoying it. Yeah. How many videos you post a week now? Or does it, do you have a schedule or do you, it's kind of just like if I get one out, I got one out just one week. And then sometimes more, I used to do a lot more like, uh, click baiting, enticing titles. And since I've brought Anthony on, he's like my full, full time filmer and editor. Like,

And I've like kind of like talked with Adam. He's kind of like helped me see a different perspective. I'm like, at this point I just want to like upload full pieces. Like the past like six months, every episode for the most part, unless it's like me blogging and I'm this little shit head, but like we film it like front to back. I finally gotten a team that can like help build to the level that I want. And we like really heavily document everything.

Um, and I'm like, Hey, I'm not going to rush an episode. I'll just get an episode out at any more just to like meet a AdSense that I want to see to like fulfill myself to like, because I like my worth is in my AdSense. You know what I mean? Yeah. Sometimes that hurts you too. When you have to like push it out in order to just, uh,

Yeah, exactly. Hit that upload schedule. There's a certain amount of people that will see it and are like, oh, I clicked this video expecting X and it didn't bring me, like, fuck that. And you lose that trust. We're slaves of the upload schedule. I mean, it's like a seven-day-a-week fucking grind. Every Thursday. But how many people do you have on your team now? So are you editing as well? No. You don't do that anymore? No.

I know you used to be for a long time, weren't you? Yeah, up until literally eight months ago, I was doing all of it myself. And I had a really tough time letting go. I'm like, no one can fucking see my vision. I have to be the one doing it. And then I finally found the right people. The team here is five. The team at Hunt & Co. is four. Our team at Street Hunter is five.

Three or four. In those immediate companies. Then other things there's more. But there's like. I don't know. 10 to 12 different employees. That kind of help keep. My. Immediate. Circle going. And you. You employ. Like. A pretty good amount of your friends. Because you got Calvin. Who else do you. Your girlfriend works. With you. She works with us. Yeah. Sabrina is like. The backbone of.

Like she's, she's my whole entire like schedule and she's so fucking smart. It's like, you need that though. It's disgusting. Yeah. Our lady that does all of our ads was talking to Sabrina for us. And Sabrina was like, she was, nope, nope. I,

uh you talked to me like running the schedule and like we appreciate that we were like that's my fucking girl yeah we were like dude cause our chick kinda does that too and uh we like really appreciate that yeah it's just one of those things where I just like I don't wanna say I've gotten taken advantage of but like

it's just to keep shit in check in line when it like goes when it doesn't go through me or when it goes through me like I'll get like kind of over stepped on and I'm like I don't want them to think like you're being a dick. TJ Hunt is ex so like I need someone to do the communication for me until like you develop that relationship with ex person then it's like okay like it can be like affiliated to like this level but

For sure. Even in like big brand deals and corporate partnerships and stuff, they're like, you have to have that or else you'll just get taken advantage of in this industry. And it's happened to me before. Same, dude. Yeah, we've been there too. And it's really hard to negotiate on your behalf. It's so much easier to have somebody else negotiate for you. It's a lot easier to have someone else be the asshole than you be the asshole. 100%. So that way they don't take it, you know, as like personal. It's like, oh, he said this or he wanted X. And it just gets messy. Yes, Sabrina does a really good job of being like,

No, you're not talking to TJ. You don't get to hop on home with him to talk about your idea. Like if you want something, if it doesn't go through me, it doesn't go through me. It's crazy how YouTube has changed though. Like every large YouTuber, every successful YouTuber has a team. It's like you have to, yeah, you, you need it. And I remember the line. I like, don't like that because it didn't used to be like, yeah, it used to be, you just go alone. You just film yourself. And for the longest time I like would get so pissed at like, not pissed,

Don't take that out of context, but you'd see channels like Hoonigan or donut media and like late night Jimmy Kimmel and late night Who's the other fucking dude Jimmy? Oh, no, not Jay Leno. He's my boy Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Like those channels are just like sitting at the trending page and it's like it used to be like the fucking name for pop for you to be a YouTube broadcast yourself

yourself. That was their fucking slogan. And now it's like YouTube, corporate rules, everything, money, politics rules, everything. The government rules, everything. Nelk, you can't be here anymore. Steve, you can't be here anymore. Oh, you say this about the president. You can't be here anymore. And like, and like I used to get so fucking Russell, like when that YouTube is taking that change, I'm like, this is supposed to be about individuals. This isn't fucking uploading professional, like, like no shade to eBay motors. This, uh,

thing we should i think you guys are doing they're spending hundreds of thousand dollars an episode and it's a youtube video yeah that's not fair and there's a certain level it used to trigger me i'm like because you can't it's not very the buried entry anymore yeah and there are some creators that are doing it there are some creators that came up with it whistling we keep talking about him he's a great example of someone who's like in the last couple years who's done it but

But at a certain point, it has to expand. Yes, but nobody's going to recreate what Whistlin's doing and take him down. Nobody's going to do what Mr. Beast is doing and take him down. Nobody's going to do what we're doing, what you're doing. No one can be a better C-Boys. No one can be a better... You have to be yourself. And so many people just go out and try and just...

be that person with like a little bit of their own personality and it just doesn't work I don't know it's just like it's not sustainable either 100% yeah and gets very large very quickly when you want to like scale to a certain degree and also like scaling isn't also isn't always what you want it to be there's certain times where I'm like fuck we scaled to this point and I'm like

wish I didn't scale to this point. Like it was almost sometimes more fun when it was just me and Calvin in the garage with Harbor Freight tools, just barely making it. I don't know. It's perspective. What do you think is like some of the worst first mods to put on your car? Like you go out, you buy a WRX. What is the, in your opinion, something you should not do? Don't do it.

Well, there's like the obvious, like you go to AutoZone, you get those fucking stick on vents. That's like, that's like, who's doing that? You're a lost cause. Oh, there's a lot of people here that do that.

Fuck, I don't know. Like those fake turbo whistles, those are really big here. You see those? You put them in the... Yeah, I've seen those. Yeah, you put them in the tip. Oh, what? Yeah, Jake had one of those. Oh, yeah, those are huge. I hate that shit. What do you think about like the wrap carbon fiber? Like it's wrap, but it's carbon fiber? Yeah, I don't like that either. Do you have it on your car?

What car is that? Me? No. You used to. I had it on my WRX. Dude, I was like, when they were putting it on, they're all like, this looks cool. I was like, dude, that is not cool. Don't fucking do it. I still don't think that looks bad. Fake carbon fiber wrap? I feel like every car person goes through a journey. We all plastied up our shit. We all.

all have done taillight tints. Well, that was all you could do at the time. It was 20 bucks and you wanted to do something. Exactly. So I don't think there's something like you can't do because like I, dude, I've put for full, it was kind of a joke. Half not. We put like carbon fiber wrap on Sabrina's like Toyota matrix like years ago. I remember that. Yeah. Like we've all done like shit like that. So I feel like there's not something like that's like totally bad. The one thing that like I've, I've really like changed my perspective on is like rep parts. You don't mess with them.

I don't want to say that, but like I've been the person who's purchased it like unknowingly of like, why is it a bad thing? Who fucking cares? I can't afford the real thing. Like if I'm going to get the cheap one, I'm going to get the cheap one. Like I've had that mindset. I've seen that, but now owning like straight Hunter and having that perspective. And when you see like how much work you get into, it goes into a certain part and then it gets knocked off. Like I see that perspective. I also like, I don't,

hate people that do that but I'm like oh I just I have a different taste and a different perspective being on the other end and seeing both sides yeah your taste has been able to evolve though yeah but again taste takes years not you know when someone's been for a year you can't crack that on them for not understanding your ideology of why something is like okay or not like I agree 100% so like I don't know why is there something that you guys absolutely fucking hate no I was just asking you

Get CJ going on cars that shouldn't be modded, though. Yeah, I mean, some people, like... I don't know. It's just like... It's like you have a Chevy Cruze. Like, don't fucking put a wing on it and then, like...

Just ruin it because then it's like you could have just saved your save, drove that car for a year, saved your money, traded it in and then got a BRZ. A hundred percent. But instead you just were so eager. You fucked it up. You, it is now worth less. No one wants to even buy it in the first place. He's passionate. I just see it. I'm going to play devil's advocate and let's see if you can hear me, hear me out.

Oh, boy. Here we go. So I was that guy to a certain degree. My first car was an E90 328. Now, if you're not a big BMW person, that motor that's in the 328 is an inline-six NA. It makes, like, 280 horsepower. And there's this very similar car that looks exactly like it called the 335. It comes with an N55, N55, N55.

wicked fast for their time. Um, and when you don't know everything, when I was looking into the forums, I was like, Hey, is there any way I can add the turbo on my, on my three 28 to do like the three? And I was like willing to, and I spent, I dumped a bunch of money into like the M three replica front bumper. And I've spent money on like changing my rear bumper to look like the three 35 dual tip. And I spent money on, uh,

you know all the shit to make it and all the people comments are like stop fucking doing this sell your car get a 335 it's way better but at that time it's like it's way easier to justify spending two grand than like going through the work of selling or like and spending an extra five grand and it's and you don't know any better so you oftentimes look like a fucking idiot doing shit like that so like i agree with you but i've also like been there maybe not on the scale of like a chevy cruze putting on like a fake arp wing that's like mounted backwards and yeah

I get that. But I've also been on that area where I'm like, oh, well, I could justify one little thing here and put a cool duck bill. It's like these slow little things that you can get right away that end up hurting you in the long term. It's a slippery slope. Because in the end, you ended up paying just as much money as the difference damn near of the car. So you should have just saved your time, saved your money. The right answer is wait, be patient, sell the car, buy the right one. 100%. I'm not mad about them doing it. I just think to myself, I was like...

Okay, I'm mad about it. I don't know if I'd say that. I'm just thinking like I feel bad for like you're never going to get ahead or you're never really going to catch up with that method. For sure. Dude, I guess 100%. Playing devil's avocado. Oh boy. The thing that I see is like

These people aren't the type normally to, like, save up and then go and finally buy their dream Supra and then do all the right mods to their dream Supra and get all the carbon fiber and, like, do everything just...

Beautifully, right? But they are going to enjoy the process of taking what they do have and doing some shitty mods. And they're not even going to fucking think about the money that they're losing by doing the mods to it when they go to sell it. I think you're thinking of two completely different type of people and you're not that person. And you hate the other person because they think differently than you. I don't hate it. I just think to myself, I feel bad for you. Why are you doing this? It's embarrassing when you see them and you're like, oh.

And then you take a photo and you sign it to all your boys and you're like, ah. I don't do that. I don't do that. Yeah, neither do I. Never. There's a Facebook page or Instagram. It's like, I'm tired of respecting all builds. Oh, yeah. And there's some true atrocities in that. And I get that. But it's part of it. There's no right or wrong. Dude, it goes back, though, honestly.

Who am I to say anything? If you're happy doing it, that's like the number one thing. Happiness, health. Yeah. You know, so like. I think it's just a learning process. Can't knock it, yeah. It's just life. You have to do the stupid shit to be like, oh, wow, that was whack.

They ain't gonna do that shit again. Well, hopefully they realize that. Yeah, like, I didn't carbon fiber wrap on a WRX. Yeah, fuck. Yeah. It was just on the wing. It was just the center of the wing. They still think it's cool. They still think it's cool. It was tasteful. It was honestly, it was tasteful. I don't know if you can say that's tasteful, dude. You can't say that's tasteful. It's honestly gotten pretty real now. Have you seen, like, the one that's, like, there's, like, depth in it? Like, I...

I've seen rap and I'm like, is that rap or real carbon? You can't fucking tell. Yeah, it's getting really good. There was that matte shit that was textured. Now there's this... He had the matte shit. Okay, yeah. But it's just what you do with your first car. I was 16. Yeah, you're 16. It's all good. I'm just cracking jokes. Been there, done that. I think we all have. Didn't you hire a private investigator to track down your first car? That's a fucking crazy story, but I did. And the guy was not happy. Why? Not happy. What?

The guy, long story short, I tried to find my original car back and we hired the PI to find him and he found... Genius idea. Yeah, he found...

So it was like a dad. He found the son and like the ex-wife. The dad wasn't living at the house anymore who owned the car. He got in touch with them and was like, hey, like I'm like a private investigator reaching out on someone trying to find this car. And the guy was like, they were not from a nice area. Like very like, for lack of better words, it was like ghetto, not. It was like, this is not like I. What was your first car? Just for contact? E90 328. Okay. So it was that one. I wasn't sure if that was the one. Yeah, so that exact car, like dug up my old van, dug up my old records, found it.

It's like an hour and a half away. And the guy was just like, more or less, I cussed out the PI. He's like, you ever fucking reach back out to me? Like, don't ask about my dad. I know the fucking car you're talking about. I haven't seen my dad in forever. Like, fuck you. And he called like the ex-wife and the ex-wife was like, I haven't fucking seen him. Like, get fucked. Like, just very angry people. Left on bad terms. Bad terms. And then like, yeah. And then I was like, ah,

I'll push a little bit. And I was like, all right, offer him like a thousand bucks. Just like, tell us where the dad is. And that like really pissed him off. We texted them again a third time and it was like, shove it up your ass. Like, and I, what?

I don't know what's going on or why it got to that level, but I saw the text. I thought he was lying to me, but I saw the text. I have the call logs, and the guy was not happy. He's like, dude, I just swam my old car back. I'm probably willing to even overpay a little bit. Overpay a good amount, and that's all. It was a risky move telling him we'll pay for the name. Think about it from that perspective.

I have someone who's paying a private investigator to get a hold of me and is going to pay me to tell him something. I thought I was going to be like, all right, tell him 10 grand. I thought it was going to turn into like a pissing battle of like how much money can they milk? They didn't know it was like TJ Hunt trying to reach out. It was just like an undisclosed person trying to reach out. Maybe he was doing illegal things in the car. No, for sure. Some like sus, like shady shit that was happening with that.

And I was really bummed. I thought we were going to get it back. It would have been a great storyline, too. I know. And then you reflect back to, I made all the mistakes, and I'm going to go back and revenge myself. That's what I wanted to do. Revenge. Revenge myself. Yeah. I should have talked to you first, right? My thesaurus. I wanted to put it back to its original glory of what I wanted it to be. Yeah.

Yeah. It would have been cool. So there's a lot of YouTubers in this area. I'd say a ton for a car. Do you think that it's like oversaturated? You go somewhere and everybody's got a camera and it's like hard to make authentic or original content when everyone that you pan the camera to is also holding a camera. Ruins it when they have a camera. I think it's just like where we are culturally. Yeah. Like,

It is now when you go talk, when a 50 year old asks you what you do for a living, you go, Oh, I do YouTube. And then they go, Oh, YouTube, my grandson, I get that. But like five years ago, it was like YouTube. What's YouTube? So like, yeah, the cultural like standard is this different? Like now it's like,

You have like Addison Rae, Charlo D'Amelio famous from TikTok to like celebrity A status. So like I think now like is it weird? Like I feel like it's weird. Yes, because like I was here like when I was getting made fun of for doing it. And now it's like, oh, you don't have a YouTube channel, bro. Like you don't make TikToks and it's just like a different world. So like it doesn't like bother me, but I'm like.

fucking fakes like this is like I don't know like I I'm like not salty but it's just the authenticity of what it is now I don't believe is what it was when five years ago I feel like now it's like I'm doing it for the money and fame because Logan Paul did it it's like when we do it's like I didn't think there was any money in it and I just think the passion is derived from a different place then than it is now 100% so like I don't know I

I mean, there's more proof. Like, why would I not want to start YouTubing and become the next TJ Hunt and have a big house and 30 cars? Oh, it's the same thing with, like, you guys. Like, oh, I have a group of friends in the middle of wherever. Like, I'm, you know, we're really funny. We're going to make funny. Like, you know, Faze did a really good job of just showing, like, that side of it, too, of what can be done. And so I think it's just, like, the new, like,

And it's just like, it's hard because we're the old people trying to adjust to like what was ours type of thing. Like how old are you? Yeah. 28. You're 28. Yeah. How old are you guys? 26, 23. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, so, like, relatively the same time period, we, like, claimed this, like, surf spot, and now all these fucking kooks and groms keep showing up. I do kind of think about that. There's, like, the first wave of YouTubers who were, like, not even getting paid. Like, that was before AdSense. We're kind of, like, on the second wave, and now I think there's, like, possibly the third generation has been integrated, and now I'd say we're almost on, like, the fourth. Dude, we are on the fourth. It's TikTok. I'll post TikToks, and I'm, like, I see people in the comments, and they're, like...

Like, oh, who is TJ? Like, I only know TJ from TikTok. Like, he has a YouTube and people comment, like, how the fuck do you not know that? Like, there is a generation that is, like, just TikTok. You were saying you got made fun of when you were first starting out? We did, too. We did, too. All the time. Yeah. Dude. Like, just on the forums, but also, like, friends that knew me then were, like, you're making, you're filming yourself making YouTube videos. Like, just the basic shit. And it's, like, yeah, like, it's, like, I don't know.

Did you wear it as like a chip on your shoulder? I used to. I wore it as a chip on my shoulder. I wanted to prove everyone wrong. Kind of feel like I need to get back to that. I mean, it definitely fueled me to a certain degree. Yeah, like kind of helps fuel you, but... Yeah, I mean, yeah. I was more so like...

I'm going to show my ex-girlfriend what I'm all about. No, you showed her. Yeah, so to a certain degree, but do you feel like you still need that at this point? No, I know. I've let it go. I used to just have that, though. I wanted to prove everyone wrong and all that, but now it's different. Let me ask you guys this. Is there a what's next for C-Boys? Dude, all the time. I mean, we're talking about... I know you don't want to give too much away, but I am curious. No, we can talk...

We want to come up with a product, but we're very, very meticulous. We want to make sure it's a great product like yourself or Happy Dad or whatever. We just don't want to launch shit. And also, I think we still have a little bit of ways to grow. We need to grow it a little bit bigger before we start pushing that. And we don't know what that product is on top of that. But it needs to be something that can live on by itself. We're going to give it the push, but it's something that...

It's not like merch where you have to make videos and keep pushing it or whatever. You want to be able to live on its own, have its own two feet and not have you guys pushing it every day to get sales. Well, just like you didn't name it TJ Hunt's Wide Body Kits, you know? Yeah. Street Hunter, so. Exactly. I'm always like very curious to see like what people's perspective or like if they have like a three-year, five-year, ten-year. Not that it's always necessary, but it's always curious to see because you guys have so much potential.

You guys are what, doing like 800K to a million a video? Around that, yeah. That's fucked. Like, so I'm like very curious to see. Dude. Because you guys have so much creativity. Like, you guys are, have a flow that like you don't really see. There's not, I think the only other people I could compare you to is like,

Just be only in the realm of like a group of dudes that can like film with Hasbulla and then like just do fucking a prank or like buy a, I don't know, like that type of environment. I'm very, and it's cool. Cause like I've, I've watched you guys go for a very long time. So I'm like, I'm like, I appreciate it. It makes me pretty happy that you, that you keep an eye on us. Cause I mean, I mean, we, I try to like keep an eye over like, I'll just,

be informed. I don't really like watch videos anymore, but you guys are... Oh, that's why I was like, fucking thumbnail guys over here. That's a whole nother like side...

topic and category of like what I've noticed people are starting to do. Yeah. We put a lot of time into it. Like we'll, we'll come up with a title and thumbnail before we film a video. Yeah. I know a lot of people who do that too. Yeah. It's nice though too. Cause we have bits though. So like you could have a five minute bit that is a great thumbnail and title, but then you fill it out doing a prank or ripping around in a car or whatever, you know? So yeah.

Yeah, no, for sure. So you said you were building a shop next to your house. That's genius. That'd be so nice, dude. Cause then you can just boom, boom. You're at home, especially if you're trying to start a family and all that. Like, yeah, well it's just like California and you learn like, okay. And this is like a whole nother, we could do like fucking 10 different podcasts on so many different discussions, but.

like I got really interested in learning about real estate and learning about taxes and learning about where money can be spent and how it can be moved. So you're not just completely writing shit off and like hiring, making us another company so that this company pays that company, which then like funnels it this way, which hits this tax code, which doesn't, it's all like legal, but it's like how these multi-million dollar businesses are being handled that school doesn't fucking teach you. Right. Um, which like, again, one other fucking topic. Um,

Don't get us started on school. But I was like, fuck, for how much we're spending on rent in California, I could just build a fucking castle at my house and rent it to myself and pay like a mortgage to myself and write it all off. And I could be able to. Especially in California, you have to be smart because it's so dang smart. Dude, they're taking so much of your money. We're getting bent. So you haven't thought about just going to Texas? So many times. I'm surprised you haven't.

For a while there, LZ almost had me moving out to Florida. Like so fucking close. Yeah, you could too. That like stems the whole conversation of like, okay, just buying property in different areas or like completely uplifting, uprooting and moving. And this kind of goes back to our original topic of like, okay, like what's most important to you now, which is ultimately like,

and dislike friends. I'm like, okay, I could move to Texas. I could move to wherever and get like 80 acres and do the whole Whistling Diesel thing in the middle wherever the fuck he is. But then I'm like, okay, so it's just me and Sabrina. I love that girl to death, but my friends mean the world to me. And even though I do, I've had someone be like, we'll fucking move with you. I don't give a shit. Let's get the fuck out of here. I can move. I can be remote. But I just think like, yeah, money's great. But I'd rather spend an extra...

30% in taxes to live here. And I I've been here my whole life and my family's here. And also I think a really big part of like a lot of my success has been being in California of like the corporate and partner relationships that I've built. Um, they go like really, really deep more than I think that the internet is able to like really see. Um, and I think that's paid like a vital success into how I've been able to like create a pillar for myself in the world of like

you know, everyone trying to do this. So I think California is kind of burden. I will not be here forever though. No shot. No shot. When I'm like done, I'm going to leave. Dude. I think that you could get a compound in Texas or Florida. Probably Florida makes a little bit more sense. And, um, and then just bounce back and forth though. Cause then it keeps like the content interesting. Again, like have also thought about that. Um, but yeah,

I don't know. It's a lot to maintain a big property to that level. And it's like, I have fucking Adam. I have multiple cars already stored there. I go there and I'll drive. There's certain cars that I'll compete in on the East Coast if I need to or whatever. And it's like, it would make sense to a certain degree, but...

there's like already so much shit going on that again, like the conversation of spreading yourself too thin, um, and to like manage two different lives in two different areas. Now have a spare set of everything on that side. And it's like, it just gets a lot, it just gets really messy. And it's like, okay, like I'll sacrifice the monetary value of,

to have the comfort and luxury of friends and family and simplicity. Yeah. I mean, we're kind of in the same place of, like, we want to get a place in Florida or something like that. Do you guys want to stay in Minnesota? Like, has that conversation ever rained? We kind of got to... We need to stay there. Our roots are pretty deep there. How so? But we could get a second spot. But roots to how you can't leave? You can fucking...

I mean, we could be anywhere. No, for sure. But like, uh, we got a really good compound there. We got like 40 acres, like 45 acres. And then our shop is like fully built out. Not saying that we couldn't just like up and move. There's no real sense. And sell that. But, um, and then all of our families, all of us got chicks and,

It's the area, too, bro. It's kind of, like, authentic to us. I feel that. Like, the Seaboys are, like, Minnesota and Midwest. Well, I wouldn't even, like, say considering leaving isn't even an option if you're not, like, dude, like, taxes and politics just completely suck here. And if that's not, like, really, like... They kind of do in Minnesota. They kind of do, but, I mean, not enough to up yourself. Not as bad as here. Not even close. But we probably will get another place somewhere. Because, like, dude, the hardest part is mid-winter. How would you delegate that? Yeah.

But a lot of you guys' content is in the snow. No. Well, unfortunately, it is. But we've been trying not to do so much snow content because it actually isn't as servable to the masses. Because, I mean, most people don't live in an area with snow, so it's unrelatable. So, like, we find that you kind of hit a cap. And, like, if we want to keep growing past that. And especially, like, after – it's, like, popular up to –

January 1st, just because I think people are in that wintertime spirit. It's Christmas. They like the idea of snow and igloos and snowmobiles and whatever else comes with it. But after Christmas, it's like, I'm ready for summer. I'm ready for spring. And we'll have snow around until May.

So that's why we go on like an RV trip like this and we stack content, all that. That's what Nelk used to do. We actually... I don't think we got the idea from them at all. No, I'm not saying you did, but... Yeah, no. I remember they'd go to like Europe. Your guys' mindset is very similar, which is really cool to see. What we do want to do though is get a spot in Florida and then...

In these months, you know, February, January, March, you can kind of bounce back and forth. It's like, I got an idea I want to do with dirt bikes right now, but we can't do it up where we're at. So we go there. But then it's like, oh, we want to do this snowmobiling video. Go back home. You know, you can kind of bounce back and forth, but it's just...

you know, it comes down to money. Travel's nice too. It's fun. You go for a week and you know, you can go, like you say, you go to Japan and then you come home and then you go to Colorado and then you come home and then. Yeah. I've had a lot of fun on this RV trip, honestly. Me too. It's been, I'm kind of about ready to go home now. It's been a

over a week and we still have like another week, but dude, but it, uh, you know, it's been very productive and it's fun getting to meet people like you and, uh, just do this kind of stuff that we wouldn't be able to do back home. It's really fun. Honestly. Yeah. How many videos did you guys plan out about this trip? Three. We have four, I think actually three plus eBay motors. Cool. And then, yeah, we're doing the eBay motor shoot.

Yeah. At the tail end of it. And then we've stacked. This is our third podcast. So we're making it worth it. Yeah, for sure. Then we even spent a day in Las Vegas, ran around. Caught some havoc. Yeah, caught some havoc. You like Vegas? Oh, dude, that's like...

Five-hour drive, you're there. That's dangerous. I feel like I'm being tugged right now. Dude, we'll do like fucking you can get a Spirit airline flight for 50 bucks. Fly out in the morning, and you can fly back at night. A little one-dayer. Yeah, well, one-day casino fucking run. Oh, yeah. What do you play? I used to fund my channel off of gambling. No way? I almost went into professional blackjack. What? Yeah, big blackjack player.

Really? Yeah. My dad is a really big blackjack player and like taught me really young. I'm like proper, obviously like the proper prop, like counts, but then also learning how to count cards and understanding, you know, variables and odds and shit like that. So I was, you can count cards. You're going to come with us next. I was really into it. Yeah. Basic strategy, basic, just like basic shit where I could be like, Hey dude, don't fucking hit that. Or like, so,

when I was younger, so there's a casino that's an 18 and up. So at the end of high school, when I was 18, we started really going gambling a lot. And like that when I was like in my prime, I was like fucking reading all these books, strategies and counting and all my boys would come like, 'cause you know, if you guys gamble, you know that one blackjack player can call everyone's hands. It's not illegal. I can tell you, I can tell each and everyone what to do.

So like we would go there and I would, I would tell everyone what to do. And all my boys would be like, all right, I'm bringing a hundred bucks tonight. Like, and I would do my best to make everyone money. And Oh yeah. So what's, what's the most money you've ever won Vegas? Can you tell me in one night? Yeah. Uh, one night, maybe like 20 G's. Nice. Nice.

Nice. Winning money? Bro, I thought I've never left Vegas with money. Really? No, never. It's hard. It's really hard in Vegas because the odds are so shit. Like, your best odds is you need to have a pocket of at least five grand and play like

Usually it's like $100 hands just to get like do you do progressive betting if you start losing dude? Yeah, so I have a couple of different like betting strategies It's kind of like what I'm feeling or like how beat up I'm getting but all like it progressive yes, or I'll do like Super heavy off the rip just to kind of like see where my luck is just on a friend new deck But it just depends if it's single deck or double deck You can kind of play that progression differently because you're gonna run out of cards all of those cut the shoe on you So quick if you're just doing too hot

Damn, winning sounds fun. We just need to learn how to walk away in the first place. Dude, let's fucking go. We'd love to. You ever play roulette or botkrat? Oh, no, not... One of my best friends, Kevin, is Vietnamese, so he knows how to play the botkrat game or whatever the fuck it's called. I'll do roulette every now and then, but I'm like, get a couple drinks too deep, and I'm like...

fucking five grand on black baby let's go type of guy same dude not that much but I'm just like way too confident in just red or black yeah that's that's like usually a big bit every time because we go to SEMA every year I'm there for like ten days we go to Vegas a lot for like just shoots and shit we always do like a bit we're all walking to casino with at least like a thousand bucks and just like start every vlog off like how much more are we gonna make today either we lose it or we win it and it's always great when you win it yeah dude we saw you in Vegas at SEMA so

So like sometimes we'll go just last year. Okay. We didn't like,

You were walking this way and you had security all around you and it was very frantic because I'm sure you're getting mobbed at SEMA. Yeah, SEMA's nuts. SEMA's like very... It's kind of like us. We go to a place called Hay Days, but it's basically like a big snowmobiling thing. Same thing as SEMA except smaller and you can't walk at all anymore. So we felt your pain. Or not your pain, but we knew how it goes. It's not pain. It's just like some people just forget that like...

everyone's just a human. And you have places to be. So if you have to stop at each spot to sign and take a picture and everything, it's like you're getting pulled every different direction. Or at least like for me, my experience is always like,

Especially this last SEMA where now it's like, oh, we're going to use you as our new face. And you're getting pulled every different direction every hour on the hour for something else. So it's like driving outside or autograph sessions. You were everywhere. Yeah. Every board had TJ Hunt here at this time. Your cars were everywhere too. Yeah, that's like something like...

That I learned early on. Growing up, I always loved going to SEMA. Me and my boys would sneak in and try to get in there. Because it was so close, and that's all the dopest shit would be at SEMA. So for us, that was always the coolest place to go. So I've always had this fascination with it. And then over the years, I've started to develop the partners that can give me certain spots. And then it turned into like, oh, we want to take your craziest build. We want to unveil the build. And each year, people have seen us do it. And now it's like...

it's really worked into our like a year's plan of like what's our sema build this year what's it going to look like what how's it being funded where is it going to be advertised and it's like a full-on meticulous game plan from like the moment sema ends okay what's next year how are we going to do it and how's it going somehow it always comes down to the last 38 hours yeah yeah this car is going to be our seaman car this year for uh mcguire's and it's going to be

fucking nuts. Dude, I love this car. Yeah. Love it. I wasn't like the biggest fan of the new BMW like front end, you know, with the big grills, but dude, I love this thing. This is an aftermarket front end. Okay. But it's still got like somewhat similar grill look, right? It's like the most different type. It's smaller and it's more like it's not as big as the catfish OE, but

Much better. I like it a lot. This looks fantastic. This might be my favorite BMW. Dude, for sure. You have an air con right now? Yeah. Dude, get this car. You'll thank me later. Really? This car, is it a stock air con? Yeah. I'd walk you. What? Really? 100%. Crazy. I have cup holders. I have a glove box. I have back seats. I have a trunk. Cruise control. I have cruise control. I have a better audio system. I have dampening control. I have a, like...

and it's faster. Dude, we were telling Ken. And it's all-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive. Yeah, bro. That's pretty sweet. I'd rip the front end off of it so fast in the Minnesota winter. There's no front end lift. I don't know if Aragon has that. Yeah. I don't know. I didn't really like this car. I only bought this car for what that is up there, and then I've just been owning this since, and it's fucking amazing. It's so fucking good. How about Urus?

You got one of those too. What do you think of those? It's a really nice paperweight. That's just a tax write-off though. Okay. Yeah. You got your chick driving it. Yeah, dude. She fucking loves it. That's amazing. Yeah, it's just the 6,000 pound limit. Okay, yeah. 4x4 squared, same thing. I was like, okay, we need to try to offset

Taxes, how can you do that? Buy a truck-weighted limit car. Right. Urus, the same thing. It's the same thing as the Audi, though. Nice. It's just double the price. Ken says that every time. It is. Same car. Why would you buy an Urus when you can just buy a RS Q8 or whatever it is? Why do you have a Lambo? Yeah.

I mean, it's a Lambo. It's cool. As a little kid, bro, the dream was always to get a Lambo. But also, most people buy it because it's like, hey, my business makes X amount. If I buy this car, I can write off X amount. It's 100% write off in California. Well, it's actually not anymore now. It's going to be like 80. And every year, it's going to get progressively... So you're going to see people do that a lot less, but...

Yeah. Like if you buy a $500 Rolls Royce, that's over 6,000 pounds. That won't, that Cullinan is a $500,000, a hundred percent write off. Yeah. Nice. So like, think about that for a second. Crazy. That's why I see a lot of G wagons. That's why everyone has G wagons here. Those are all business owners who just buy the G wagons as business vehicles. There's like things, how many miles you can do on it, whatever. But yeah, just,

This car's amazing. Yeah, dude. I love it. I love the green, too. Bridge Racing green. Individual spec, baby. Yeah, now it's a one of two. Some other motherfucker did it, too. Oh, really? Yeah. This is like a custom order spec. Oh, no shit. Paint sample? Mm-hmm. You love that green, bro. Dude, I'm doing every fucking...

Like it's like, you know how like, I guess maybe Stratman was like matte purple. Yeah. I'm doing this on like everything. Any car I've ever like paint for the most part. Now I'm just going to start a collection of BRG cars. I love that. I'm obsessed with that green. Especially with the peanut. Well, I guess is that orange or peanut butter? Orange. Peanut butter. That's orange. I've never heard that one. I like that. Peanut butter interior. Nah, it's orange. It's orange. It's cool. Yeah, bro. So sick. It's super rad. I look forward to you selling Eric on again. I'm four.

Dude, if I saw my Huracan right now, I'd probably lose like 50 grand from when I bought it a year ago. What year is it? 15. 610-4. 610. Yeah, I mean, do you know how much you get it for? I mean, out the door, like 230. Okay.

You wouldn't lose 50 grand, not now. I figured... How many miles are on it? 36K. Okay, how much you buy it with? 30. Yeah, you probably... It's the taxes. Bro, it's the taxes, though. Yeah. You don't, like, if you're paying taxes for us, you can't get that money back. Dude, yeah, tax here on my Aventador was 35 grand. Yeah, that's insane. Just to get it. So I'm assuming Minnesota's pretty gnarly, too. Yeah. It's like 10% of...

Yeah, it's 8%. Yeah, okay. Same thing. Yeah, that's just learning. But it's whatever. Like, honestly, I'm not too hung up on that. And I don't let that, like, stop me. No, for sure. And I really don't care.

But, I mean, it does kind of... It's a kick in the nuts. Oh, for sure. And it's not even like the fact of the matter. It's just like nobody wants to get kicked in the nuts and lose money. It doesn't really matter how much. Well, no. Any exotic you buy should always know you're going to lose money. Yeah. Like, you should always have that mindset. And that's like if you play your cards right, you understand that, like, you can...

profit off of every car you ever have. It's just learning how to do it. Yeah. And we made content with it and everything. But even content aside. And content aside, like, I just love it. Yeah. I love it. It was always my dream to get a Lambo. Yeah. Always my dream. But I don't know, dude. I can't really see myself in one of these. I could see Mike in it. Our buddy Mike. He's not here right now, but I could see him mobbing a Beamer for sure. I could see Ken mobbing it. That's probably it for the crew. No, really? Not yet, no. I'm not... I think it's sick. It's just maybe... I don't know. It's not really...

I've always liked like JDM. I'm a tuner car kind of guy, but yeah, I feel like everyone is like, like that until you drive one of the new ones and you're like, Oh, it doesn't have to be like,

low-key junk box and like i have to be low-key worried about going an hour in this car without it blowing up or like something happening and then you drive these like new modern ones and it's like or like the a90s so fucking good if you set them up right like modern bmws i just think are apart from 911s are like untouchable well maybe if we got time after this we'll go for a cruise and it'll change our mind you guys take go up and down the street with it well i don't

Put it in real drive mode. Take it to Glamis? Yeah. We'd get there a lot faster than that. That's for sure. Beamer in the sand dunes. I don't know if we'd fit, but. Thing's fucking really cool. This has been really good, dude. Thank you so much for having us. Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me. I'm so pumped just to get to sit down with you. How long have we been talking? I don't know. It's gone. Like an hour and 45 minutes, hour and 55. A while. Sorry, it was just going so well. We didn't mean to hold you up this long. No, dude, I told you. I was like, I wrote off the whole morning for you guys, so. Appreciate it. Appreciate it, bro. How long are the normal podcasts?

It depends. Sometimes they're two, sometimes they're an hour. This is on the long run. This is a good conversation. I'll take it. I'll take it. Well, I'll expect a round two. Yeah. Me and Ron in Japan. Absolutely. Let's do it. You got to run another one back. Fucking sake. Let's do it. And then in Vegas, dude. You got to help us make some money. Dude, don't fucking tempt me. No, seriously. We do need your help in Vegas. Dude, I guess team was not the best time, but I was like, I'll...

That's always a fun time. We'll keep you posted. We'll keep you posted. Okay. But if you guys haven't already.

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