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Getting Audited And Fined 2 Million Dollars

Publish Date: 2022/10/18
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Because when it comes to getting the most out of your home, you can do this when you Angie that. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's A-N-G-I dot com. Smoking a salad up here. What? Is Evan smoking? No, he's farting. Oh, Evan. It's a couch potato. I don't know what that guy eats, but his shit is pungent. Like his internal organs.

I would imagine they're rotten. It's just brewed differently. Like Jeffrey Dahmer would have turned Evan away type of stuff. Like he did. Evan would have stepped foot in his apartment, tooted like a little partial slip. And he would have said, dude, get out. I don't care. I had some real foul plans with you, but get out. You're too dirty. That's what he would have said. And Evan would be like, what? I thought we were going to hang out and take some pictures. Yeah.

And you're like, no, get out. Get out. Do I have a beer for the road? No. Get the hell out. All right. Okay. On that beautiful note, welcome back to the Life Wide Open podcast. Yeah, welcome back. It feels good to be back in the studio. Kind of was fun being out in Washington, but it's good to be back with the boys. Yeah, last podcast was legendary. I don't know if it was because I wasn't there or...

Probably more so just because it was an awesome podcast, but it was fun listening to it as a true listener. It was excellent. If you guys haven't checked it out, go listen to it after this one. It is fun to be back with you guys. I was doing a little self-reflection. I was thinking about, remember when you were a kid and you would mess up and you didn't quite want to come clean with your parents about what you did? Yeah. And you would just come up with a little fib? Yeah.

I thought of, there was no way my dad even believed this for a second. And before you tell it, it was little, right? No. Little fib. No, it was a big fib, dude. I fucked up for sure. Okay. It was right as we just started to like drink back when we were a little younger. Definitely. 13, 14. No, we were not that young. But you were there. I remember. We smoked a cigar outside of his house. What? You remember that? Outside?

Outside of... You two. Yeah. Smoking a cigar. Okay. Yeah. And we like hid behind the garage like it was a big deal for us. Okay. Anyway, we went to this house party and I, you know, drove my car over there, my beloved Scion TC, and we parked in the ditch outside of the house party. Yeah. Oh. And in some point in that evening, someone backed up and dented the side of my door and like mangled the side of the door. So I'm like, we come out in the morning. Yeah.

And I was like, fuck, what am I going to do? And I came back and my dad was like, well, what happened to your car? And I went, oh, me and the guys, we went to Cherryberry in a movie and someone backed out and ran into the side of my car. I was getting drunk at a house party. I told my dad I was at Cherryberry. So then what? You just had your insurance company pay for it? Uh,

Uh, no, I think we did out of pocket. I think. Wow. Cause it was, I mean, technically like a hit and run, you know, they left the party backed into your shit. I thought you were going to tell some story. Like he was totally on to you. Like this dude is lying. No, I'm just out of it. I'm going to just give it. Well, I mean, that was such a pretty minimal fib.

I figured there was a spot where you were going to look really stupid. No, I never told him that. So if he's listening, this will be the moment that he knows. He'll be like, I knew you didn't go to fucking Cherryberry. Can I tell you something? Yeah. Yeah, it was me. I was buzzing on that cigar. Oh, yeah, right.

You were like 14. You couldn't even drive yet. What would you have even hit him in? You were not driving yet. Are you actually lying? Because I wish that was true. No, I'm kidding. That was not quite the guy clean. I held that in for like eight years. I didn't even have my driver's license yet, but I was buzzing so hard I knew I needed to go home.

Get this man his keys. I had a friend, and I guess the only time I can think of where I was fibbing, and it was very obvious that I was fibbing. You were good at telling the truth. I wasn't. I was with my friend, Sean, and he was such a troublemaker. And it was like we're in the ninth grade. He had his license, and we were buzzing around. And he'd be like, let's hang out. And he'd come pick me up. And we'd just cruise around town. Then we'd go to Walmart, whatever.

and like just me and him and like he would like just do some dumb shit and i'd just be tagged along anyways we like pull into his his house and his dad was a really nice guy but like he was smart and i he was actually i think he was in the marines at one point he's like a pretty successful guy i can't remember what he did something in software but he's a smart dude like he could look you in the in the eye and like know if you're lying so we pull up

And he goes, make sure you don't tell my dad that we went to Walmart. Don't tell my dad that we went to Walmart. You weren't supposed to be at Walmart? I don't know. Apparently not. And like we hop out and his dad's in the parking lot or in his driveway. And Sean runs in and leaves me just out to dry. And his dad goes, so Siege, what were you guys up to? And I was like, not at Walmart. Yeah.

Target just driving around I don't know I don't even know what I said I like said maybe we went and got ice cream or something like and he goes really you sure about that I'm like uh you know like I'm at that point backtracking in my tracks and he goes

I think you guys went to Walmart. What? No. He had some tracking device on him now that I look back on it. But I just held true to my guns like I always do. And I was like, no, no. He just sat there looking at me like, this kid is a real idiot. But I was just hung out to dry by his idiot son, which we were both idiots. But at least at that time.

And he's not anymore. I still am. But yeah, that was a pretty embarrassing moment, just being caught at that age just in a fucking lie. In a lie. But I held true. Couldn't have got out. I'm pretty sure I was sweating. I just love... He's a stern dude. The series of events there, when you started telling that story, Ryan goes, yeah, see, you really have always been good at telling the truth. And then it's like... Normally you work here. Yeah, normally you... To your parents. Did you go to Walmart? I didn't see what the problem with going to Walmart was, but apparently he didn't want to...

While me telling his dad that we were at Walmart, I'm like, dude, we didn't even do anything bad. It's funny how you have always told the truth with your parents and everything like that. But you and I could bullshit somebody so easy. But we're put in two completely different positions where I'm probably still not a very good liar.

But like I'm a really good bullshitter. Yeah, if I'm messing with someone, I couldn't like make them believe that we just got back from Russia. Yeah, we were in Russia like filming this video with that Russian YouTuber. You probably don't know it. You know, we would like just make this whole thing up. FPS Russia. I've never really looked at that as like lying.

It's almost like ridiculous though. I never feel bad about it. It's so ridiculous because you're trying to see... When you and I do that, when we're messing with people, it's more of us... It's not us lying. It's us trying to see how far we can stretch this story and make it seem so far-fetched but have them still believing us in a way kind of making them seem stupid. And then we just... It's like...

an inside joke right sometimes we'll pick up we'll pick up on it immediately if we can kind of push our limits with somebody like um a couple videos or a while back uh gavin the three-wheeler kid came up and we found out basically in the first like 15 minutes that this dude was so gullible like he would believe anything oh he had no reason not to believe us right so naturally me and cj are just like

instant bullshitting like yeah it got to the point where we had to like you left and we made up this whole elaborate story like oh yeah ryan yeah he's not allowed to hang out with us if we're not like working like filming what why well his girl man she doesn't like us he's like what and he still dates her we're like yeah yeah i don't know man he just loves her

And like, we were just going on and on and we stretched it so far. And then you came back and you were like, I got to go home. Like I got dinner with my girl and Gavin like took his hat off and he's like, dude, come on. I'm here from Colorado. I heard him busting my chops about that. And I was like, just have a couple

beers we're like yeah he's like not allowed to drink or nothing i'm not sure if we actually ever cleared that up with him no we did that like we did the next day okay we let him believe it for a whole night because there's a lot of things where we just like let him go yeah i think we also convinced him that you were a liberal 90 yeah you guys always do that i'm in such a pinch i'm like i'm not and then they're like oh geez it's okay man he believed it no one ever second they go yeah i could see it

They always say that. I ain't. I'm not saying there's anything wrong. I'm not going to discriminate against anything, but it's funny to say Ryan is. Circling back, I don't know if this is necessarily a good thing, but 90% of the time when you guys are trolling, it's all made up, right? You know, like...

The only thing that's not made up is that you're using a real person as your example. And it's super fun to be on the inside of it, but when you're on the outside of it, it sucks. Because you... Outside as... But you don't even know what's going on. Hold up. Outside as in you're the one being trolled or outside as in you're watching us do our thing on somebody else, unsuspecting? A bit of both, man.

Mainly either when you are on the outside of the troll, when maybe I know I'm being trolled, because now I finally picked up on that and that really sucks, or when you're on the outside of it and someone is being trolled and you're just like, dude, it's not true, or you just want to stop. Yeah, you're pretty good about not intervening though, but this little weasel... I'm sorry I cut you off, Mike, but yeah. Instantly. Oh, instantly. Basically, they could have the best troll in the world going and I'll probably...

ruin it in about a second without even trying. I'm just that dumb. No, I think you get some kind of enjoyment out of just ruining it. I would say like part of some of them. It makes you happy knowing that me and CJ. I think your guys is really dumb ones I do. Well, those are the best. Those are the ones that shouldn't be believable. Those are the ones that are so unbelievable.

outlandish. When we're stretching it like super far. No, and that's what I'm saying. It's like, it's all perspective. I mean, we've talked about this before, but when you convinced Greta that I didn't have a bank account, I went. That was a good one. That was such a good one. I went along with it for two weeks. Thank you. Well, that one's pretty harmless. That's funny. I convinced my girlfriend that Mike didn't believe in bank accounts.

Because he had a bunch of cash. Because he had a bunch of cash because he used to be a bartender. So he had like 200 bucks in cash next to his bed. More than that. Yeah, he doesn't believe in bank accounts. I have to pay him. Oh, Mark. Mark, our buddy Mark, we bought him the watch. He still believes that actually. So he might be listening to this right now.

my favorite five years later when they both went doesn't his mom work at a bank that's yeah that's kind of yeah he saw the inner workings of it he was like i don't trust this system well no and then she asked me that and then i was like yeah she does you're not dumb she works at a bank and i use a bank there's so 90 of the time you're just pulling stuff out of your ass and you're really good at

quite literally piling so much shit over the line that you don't know. You don't even want to dig in. So if there is something that it's like someone's being fish, I mean, like it's a legitimate thing someone's being fishy about. But if you guys Power Ranger up together and start piling shit on the line, it's gone, dude. I mean, it's just it's impressive. Yeah.

A little scary, but it's impressive. Dude, it's truly one of my favorite things to do. That's what I mean. It's really fun to do. You guys, everyone knows that you two are cousins, but like, I mean. No, I don't think everyone knows that. I should say. I hope everyone doesn't know that. But I think that's where the dynamics come from. I'm kidding. They're connected. Yeah. Let me hear some of your guys' fibs. I want to, like, what's a good fib? No, I was trying to think while you were telling your story. Juicy story.

I got one more good one. So in the ninth grade, when I, like if you were a hockey player, you go into high school, it was like this big thing that all the older kids chewed. So me and my buddy will blank his name. Uh, we go and get chew, which was very accessible as like 15. And we're like chewing it, dipping it, whatever. And, and it went fine. We must've got like some weak shit. And then we went and did it the next week and got some more. And it was right after hockey practice. And I put that thing in.

Holy shit. I started buzzing so hard that I threw up all over the parking lot. He had to like drive me home. I'm like throwing up out the window. I get home. My parents like, what the hell was happening? I'm like, Oh, I just ate bad Taco Bell, bad Taco Bell. And like,

Just went to bed. CJ's got dips stuck in his teeth and shit. Yeah, and I never chewed ever since then. Good for you. Which was honestly probably... That's like the best thing. That's like... Getting sick off of that shit right away. The one time I tried it too, or like the Zin, the pouch thing, was buzzing. Started throwing up everywhere. Oh shit, you're supposed to. Yeah, that's good. But I was like buzzing way too hard. Like I always started like hallucinating. I was buzzing so hard. At the time I felt like a pussy, but like realistically...

Best thing, because a lot of those guys are still addicted to it. It's really not that cool if you're like them. I did the exact same thing too with the big vapes. The big rig vapes. When we were in the college house, Jake, Ken...

I think at the time it was myself, Ryan, Jake, Justin, and you. You guys were always ripping these big... That might be the least cool thing you could do. Huge clouds, right? I was doing it for maybe five days and then

I was like seeing how much I could like do. Well, I was like to buzz. And then I started just dude to death rolling up everywhere. And I haven't done it since. Like, I remember, of course, this is like Jake's idea, but I mean, we're all participating. He goes, let's just pass it around and take like the biggest rips we can until we

Something happens. That's what, like, no joke, what we did. Okay, well, I found out what happened. Do you guys remember when Ken had it? Oh, dude, that might be the funniest thing that has ever happened to date that has never seen the internet. The internet hasn't? No, he freaked out so bad that I deleted it. Tell the story. Tell the story. Oh, I thought we already told this. Are you sure we haven't told this? I haven't told this.

Did we? Ken said we told it. All right, long story short, Ken had those vapes where you had to put the juice in. I ordered dog shit flavored vape juice, put it in his vape. He came home, sucked that thing, and...

And he immediately knew we did something to it. Came up freaking out like very mad. And we all were laughing. And then he finally asked what we did to his vape. And we said, it's dog shit. And he thought we put literal dog shit like some poop in his vape. And he immediately yelled, you know how unsanitary that is? And chucked the vape at me. And luckily he missed. And then I had to buy him a new vape.

Remember when we went to the store What you told the vape guy Yeah and then I went in and I didn't know what I was buying I thought it was funny I'm like this guy is going to think it's funny And I tell him the whole prank So I need to get a vape but I don't know what I need to get So anyways long story I tell him the whole story and he goes that's not funny I learned real quick you don't mess with a Vapers vape

He didn't think it was funny at all. He was not amused at all. It was such a big deal that I don't know why, but I actually got scared at how bad a pen was that I deleted all the video. Really? I just deleted the snaps. I deleted it. It was a different time. I don't know why I was so scared. It was an early time. It was easily the top three maddest I've ever seen him. Yeah, luckily, I guess that you deleted all of it. Luckily, that scenario lives...

rent-free in my head. It was upstairs in the loft in my room. I remember it like it was yesterday. How could you forget? He was really mad. Oh, man. You know how you ever heard that, oh, I've never had an original thought? You see TikToks that are like...

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I don't have the results of it. It's like a social experiment. I don't know what you'd call it. But I'm in the urinal at TJ's and a couple other different bars too. But I'm in the urinal and I was like, oh man, this is going to be a lot of fun.

This one particularly was a little bit dirty. Dude, you've got to spit this out. You're in the urinals at TJ's. It's dirty. And so then I was like, you know how when you get pissed on the toilet rim of a normal toilet, if you're courteous, maybe not in a public restroom, sometimes they're so gritty you don't want to do it, but you wipe it off because you're courteous. Of course. What if you put a roll of toilet paper in the urinal and just see what people do? Wait, wait, hold up.

In the urinal? No, not in the urinal, but like, you know, there's stalls. It's only if there's a stall next to you. Oh, like on top of the urinal? No, just like urinals here, stalls, like there's a divider. So I got these adhesive toilet paper rolls and I like, I put one on there and put a toilet paper roll on it

never saw what people thought of it but I just wanted like I put the toilet paper roll on there I'm like I bet people are like pissing they're like am I supposed to wipe this down after I'm done oh man that's fucking funny dude you should have put some fake shit in there too that'd be actually okay I'm liking where that's going too kind of like bring it even further

I like both sides of it. Because I... And I'm like, what? You know, there's, like, such a thing... Are we supposed to take a dump? Yeah, yeah. There's, like, such a thing as, like, a social experiment or a prank that you really never get the reactions of, which is kind of like that. It'd be funny if you waited until someone came in and then you were, like, pulling your pants up and facing the wrong way, like, as if you just did it. But then...

And then you make it like, yeah, really obvious that you were shaking the urinal. But then they see the toilet paper roll and they're like, so hold up. You have done it. Yeah. And you even brought toilet paper over there. Well, no, I took one out of there.

Yeah, I didn't have toilet paper, but I had the thing, which was kind of dumb. Can you imagine how confused the worker was when they went in to clean it that night? And they were like, hey, Jennifer, when did we start putting the little toilet paper holder adhesive on the... Should I reload that? Or we go back in, yeah, the roll is empty. But I'm basically just going to hit all the local bar and restaurants. The toilet paper bandit. Yeah.

So I guess now people know, but that is that. That's a pretty original idea, Mike. I guess that was the moral of the story. As dumb as it is, like, has anyone ever done that ever? Put a toilet paper roll in a urinal. I haven't. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it either. So congrats, Mike. You did it, dude. Thanks. You pioneered something. Man, it feels good to be a gangster. Dude, did you guys see those? I saw it all over TikTok, but those fishermen, man.

that rigged that tournament and put lead weights in like fish fillets inside of those fish. Yeah. In like a tournament. Like they were playing. Well, multiple. I mean, over, I don't know how long it was, but they said multiple tournaments. Oh, really? So they were like serial cheaters. Because they must get money, I'm assuming. It happened and then they were like, they have no way of proving it, but they were like, these guys...

had to have done it at least one or two other times. They're just like constant winners. Yeah, I mean, if you get caught cheating one time, they're going to second guess all your other wins. How do they figure it out?

well they haven't seen the video how do they figure it out i'll pull it up yeah but they literally they it was kind of aggressive the way that the guy like rips yeah full grown men all in this big fishing tournament but my fishermen do not around this is the best part is the guys just standing there watching the guy very aggressively like rip stuff out of this fish

And he's just standing there like completely neutral expression. There's a whole crowd of people yelling at him. Like I thought there was a fight. Was there a fight? I was saying the best part is like before they started exposing him or maybe as they were exposing him, the authorities or whoever's running the thing was like,

don't like hurt him because people were basically like, yeah, we knew it. You want to get punched in the face? Like they're getting in line basically to like, was this like a paid event? Yeah. Like, like the champion won money or what would they win? I'm not sure about this, but I did see that these guys had won like over $200,000 in holy crap. Pretty big tournaments. Oh, so they were like the big dollars.

and then everyone found out that they were... Damn. What? I think I've got an airplane. Dude, watch these guys. That's the dude? That's the dude. Look how... This is his face the entire time. Look, big. I think those are either one or two pound lead balls. He's just standing there like this. He's just like, yep, make sure. Fucking piece of shit. Please. Please.

Don't we need to file a police report? People are just yelling, you piece of shit. Every tournament you won!

Look how aggressively he rips the weight out of these fish. He's fucking just slaying them. Dude, everyone is riled up. For good reason, but... You hear the people in the background. Okay, the people in the background are the best part.

Is that a filet? Yeah, they were stuffing other filets. He's just standing there just like this. Why didn't he just leave? I don't even know. Call the cops! Call the cops! He's just standing right there. Talk about embarrassing. Everybody listen to me right now. Wait, Jake. I want you to leave.

I don't want anybody to touch these guys. Put this guy in jail. That is a... I think that is illegal. I mean, to be fair, he is rigging a tournament. Yeah, he's rigging a tournament. It's a pretty big deal. And I guess not to mention, like, a tournament with serious winnings on the line. Holy shit. Okay, so...

I mean and that's the crazy part they were blatantly cheating all their fish Couldn't they just look at the fish and be like there's no way this thing weighs this much? It must just be that tight of a race you know like a pound or two either way Look at the dude in the flip-flops

That's a walleye. It's cooked and everything. Still warm. What happened to the guys? To be honest, I don't. I actually don't. I don't know what ended up happening. Why does he sit there and just watch? He's like a five-year-old kid. Look up. What was his last name? There's no way this guy is social media after this. He deleted everything. Just look up his news article. Okay, what happened to walleye cheaters? Boat and trailer seized. What?

Not surprised because that's apparently what they won. They won in one of their tournaments. They won a boat and trailer. I think they seized it. They came without that. I don't know if that was the winning for that one, but they seized it because it was a winning for a previous tournament. And they were like, we can't, you can't have this. Yeah. Knowing what you cheat one time. And even if the rest of them were all credible, yeah.

It's not a good look. Well, moral of the story here, this is incredibly entertaining. Is it okay? I mean, absolutely not. But what do you expect? I guess it's like it's a fishing tournament. What if the dude was just... What if he wasn't even that big of a fisherman and he was just like...

I learned how to cheat in the fishing tournaments. That's funny. Yeah. We were actually thinking about doing a bit where we went and infiltrated a fishing tournament. And then we went and just found out who the most hard-o guys were. And then we went and messed with them. But our boats right up next to them started casting in the exact same spot.

I don't know. I've never been in a fishing tournament, but I can't imagine that they'd be too stoked about that. At least there'd be someone there that would if we started popping it on their spot. Oh, dude, after watching that video, yeah, they would be hot. Maybe it's a little bit different around here. Was that local? I suppose. Was that in Minnesota? You're trying to provide for your family, make some money. You're doing this as a professional. You're dedicating your whole life to this craft, and then these guys are coming in and cheating it, taking...

basically winnings from you. What I did see is they'd accumulated several hundred thousand dollars worth of prize, but nothing yet. No charges, nothing like that that I've seen someone. I don't know if there's anything illegal about that, though. No, you're rigging a tournament. Like, it's for sure got to be illegal. It's like, it'd be like, I mean, I feel like you, yeah, would you get in legal trouble if you, like, rigged a golf tournament somehow? I think you could get banned. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like cheating in a football game. You don't go to jail. True, there's fines, but you don't go to jail. Yeah. It's got to be. Yeah, the people in the background. Put them in jail. I don't know. I feel like the DNR would get involved of some sort in that. I feel like, yeah, I bet they would. I don't think the DNR have anything to do with tournament fishing. Mm-hmm. They have to, dude. Are you serious? Yeah.

You think they're like the fucking ref or what? I feel like they have some kind of involvement. In a situation like that, I doubt it's like the cops. I don't know what the DNR would be involved in that for. Unless it's like some kind of abuse of how much fish you can take or like shoving them down their throat. Maybe they could get like maybe some kind of inhumane type of thing, but...

Yeah. Fish do kind of get to go by that. There's not many rights for fish. Not saying there should be.

Yeah. Also, there's really not, you know. There's really, you know what? Listen, man, I've already done it for the turtles. I can't do anymore. Yeah, true. Dude, I asked Ryan before this podcast if he had any fresh idiots of the week and you said no. However, those guys might have taken it. For sure. Those are our idiots of the week, man. Dude, I bet they're getting roasted every which way. Yeah, I can't be kidding. Dude, we're not even in the fishing game. Yeah, exactly. Their wife's probably left them. We're roasting them because they're like, I married you because I thought you were a good fisherman. Yeah.

Yeah. That'd be a sad truth to find out. I bet they weren't telling their wives that they were putting lead balls in the fish. Yeah. Because obviously being a good fisherman is what gets you the girls. Yeah. You know? Absolutely. I'd imagine. What do you mean you imagine? It's the truth. I guess. I don't know. I'm not a fisherman. Then again, I don't have chicks flocking, so maybe that's why. You got to get out. Start casting some rods and stuff. Shit. Or reels. Casting reels. Okay. I feel like...

I feel like enough time has passed. The waters are calm again. Can we tell the story of when we got fined with our dirt bike track? Oh, I think so. But I think as long as we just tell the story, we did. We did wrap it up. Okay. So I think I think we're good. All right. Okay. So.

Beginning of June, we had this dirt bike track built over on our property and we had Rich come out and we basically just told him, all right, we want a bunch of jumps, but nothing like too extreme, you know, so we can hit it on all these different things. And he's like, all right, I got it. We're like, oh, also we want a pond. He was like, okay, great. Well, then we come back like the next day after he started, he's basically like moving the earth in a lot of it.

Like basically just reconstructing the entire property. And we're like, Oh shit. Okay. He's really like we're doing a lot. Well then he moves, builds the track, builds the pond, ended up just being like moving a lot more dirt than we thought. But we were like, uh, well about two weeks passes by. After it was finished. After it was finished. Yeah. And, uh, we get a call from the County saying, um, we had a local complaint, uh,

about your guys' track. Can we come on out and check it out? So the county comes out, they look at it,

Kind of tell us like, all right. This was like the building codes people. Right. Well, they first and foremost said, do you have a permit? We said, you know, long story short, no. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I don't know. As far as I knew if you were going to build, you had to have a permit. Because we didn't put up any actual buildings. So long story short, we apply for the permit then. They didn't.

Give us the permit and everything. And we're like, okay, great. About two weeks goes by. Ryan gets a call. Hey, so-and-so from the MPCA. It's MPCA, right? MNPCA. No, it's MPCA. Minnesota Pollution Control, MN. No, it's MPCA. MPCA.

Hey, so-and-so from the MPCA. Minnesota Pollution Control Agency. Yes. We had a complaint about your guys' dirt bike track from somebody in the area. Anonymous. Anonymous. Yeah, we can't tell you who. We're like, of course. And can we come out and check out what you guys have there?

So they come out and at this point, like basically the entire thing was like grown back over with grass and we had like the pond. So it was kind of like holding all the water from like the rain and everything. We thought it was like pretty solid. Yeah. We thought it was pretty solid. Right. And then they basically inform us of these certain things that if you move over and

I believe an acre or you disrupt an acre or over an acre of land. Then you have to have these different permits and things. Again, we had no idea if you guys are watching this and you plan on like building a dirt bike track or doing anything in Minnesota, uh, use us as an example here, but again,

Let me pull up our violations. There was five of them, right? Wait, wait, wait. But before you say that, the one thing that was being kind of doomed upon us over the phone call was said exactly three times in a brief phone call, this could be a $10,000 per day or per fine per day.

And that was said three times. We were like looking at multiple hundreds of thousands. Well, no, just wait, just wait. So the first one, hire an individual trained in SWPPP development. So that's rainwater. Basically, an engineer comes out and tells you what you've moved, where the water is going to go. Got it. So that's the first one.

Submit a complete application to obtain coverage under the permit for the site. So get a permit for it. Stabilize the exposed soil of the interior of the track. So basically anything that didn't have grass growing on it was supposed to be stabilized with like hydro seed or straw. Yeah, something like that. So that was a third. And then have a trained individual trainer

come out every seven days or within 24 hours of a rainfall.

And then obtain a trained individual for overseeing the implications of and revising the amended amendments of the SWPPP and individuals performing the inspection. So basically somebody to come out and make sure that everything is getting fixed. Right. So five violations and each violation could have been $10,000 a day. So $50,000 a day since the start.

Of construction. And I calculated out it was like one, two, three, four, five, six weeks. So six weeks. So six weeks times... It's like millions of dollars just from building a dirt bike track on your field. 50,000 times... My calculation... 2.1 million dollars. 2.1 million! 2.1 million dollars was...

We kind of knew that odds are it wasn't going to be a worst case scenario situation, but we all sat there together quietly staring at each other and went, did we just have a $2.1 million fuck up?

Like it was, it was scary. Yeah. It was very scary. If it was 1% of that, that was $21,000. We're like, geez, that's an expensive dirt bike track. So we were scared. You know, like when, yeah, when they peg or whatever, let's say you get caught smoking weed and they say that could be up to five years in jail. It's never actually that much. It just never really is. I mean, sometimes. So,

But they kept saying it. They came out to inspect the land and they kept throwing this $10,000 per day. So it was ingrained in our heads. And then we sat down and went, why'd they say that so much? Hey guys, quick break in today's podcast for a word from today's sponsor, Manscaped. Michael Myers sure is scary, but the last thing you need to be is hairy this Halloween. Lucky our friends at Manscaped launched their fourth generation performance package to make sure your pumpkins get the

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if we're like compliant and we get everything fixed super fast maybe they'll be lenient but like what is lenient 10 of that is still what well 10 would have been 200 200 000 200 000

So anyway, they come out, they give us all these things and they, you know, tell us the, the issues, the fines. And then it went all right. Right. Yeah. The guy was super nice about it too. And, and obviously he could tell like we weren't doing it intentionally and it wasn't like our third violation of doing it. And we were like, look, we just wanted to build a dirt bike track. We've never built anything ever. We've never moved this much dirt before. Um,

We didn't even do it really. We didn't know. Yeah, it'd be one thing to if we were to hire like a professional team because usually someone like professional, like a construction crew, they have to know about that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So we were just like, look, we just had a buddy come out, kind of explained it to him.

But yeah, they like came back and like, I think they said that again, like a couple of times, like, well, just letting you know, like this is what it could be. But if you're like compliant, we'll take that into consideration. So we're like bugging about it for basically a month. We get everything done super fast or as quick as we can. And we're dealing with other contractors for like hydro seed too. And they're all busy. And we're like, look, we got to get this done ASAP. So we, we,

did everything that they needed. And then like a month goes by and we're just hoping, okay, please, please, please, you know, take all that into consideration. And then they came back and I think they find us what? $700? No, it was like 1700. Oh, was it? Yeah. Still. But that was pretty nice of them. I still, they were, yeah. Yeah. Obviously they got a job to do and they understood that it was a mistake on our part. We didn't, we literally didn't know what we were doing and we learned a lesson from it. And yeah,

You know, they didn't freaking basically end our lives. And that's something I think sometimes the beauty of like being, I mean, I hate to call ourselves clueless, but being clueless enough where you don't even have to lie, you know, you didn't actually, you didn't ever for one second consciously like

or walk over someone's rules or laws. Like, I mean, we just didn't know. Yeah, if we went and like built a housing development out there, I'd be like, yeah, I guess I can see how we'd probably have to do some planning. Yeah, but for, you know, a bunch of, basically, since most of our jumps are tabletops, a bunch of piles of dirt. The pond got pretty extensive, but yeah, we just didn't know. I guess it goes down to who's our weasel of a neighbor? I know.

I know calling us into the County. And then when like the track doesn't get dozed the next day, they're like, all right, who's next? Who's next? Who else could we call them into? And the worst part is, so they have to remain anonymous, but like we had to pay actually the most expensive part was paying all the contractors to come out and spray the hydro seed and lay the straw tarp and all that stuff. Like that shit was certified like four grand. So it's kind of bullshit that someone can complain.

And go anonymous when they cost you that type of money. It is also interesting, like, who knows what the MPCA is? I didn't. And to call them. Right. Someone must have told them to call them or something, but...

But I'm glad we're good now. I mean, we have a we use that track like every week. Yeah. So good. Like literally like once or twice a week, probably. Yeah. It's not that extensive to really be complaining about. I mean, I'm not complaining. I was. I was, though. Oh, right. Yeah. Damn. Quite a lesson learned for sure.

yeah i mean always check with your local permits now i know i want to put an approach we got to get a permit for that too right we do yeah i was like right you can't you probably can't just build an approach in a ditch no can't it's so easy to get a permit too and it's like relatively cheap for what it could be if you don't get the permit and then they hit you with the fine too yeah i feel like most of the time if you're proactive on it again we've never had to deal with it in our fucking life yeah yeah

Well, another thing I was like, so when all that was happening, I guess moral of the story is like it all, it brought us all down. You know, we were all just bummed. It's like that happens. Oh, and then you get this impending, like what is going to be our punishment? And it definitely like slows us down a little bit and makes us way more apprehensive, which sucks. It goes back to what I said in the beginning, dude, no one you're in trouble is the fucking worst. Yeah. It's just the worst. And it causes you to act differently. No,

Yeah, it's even not necessarily like the punishment most of the time. It's just the guilt. The guilt and the headache of dealing with it and how long does it like loom over you. Another kind of depressing news. Kind of became a pull tabs addict. Oh, that is sad to hear. Are you down bad? I've had a couple wins.

that have brought me back up, but I don't know what came over me. I don't either. I'll tell you exactly what came over me. Me and Ken and CJ were out to dinner the other day and me and Ken, I don't know why, but we were like, let's just go in like 20 bucks, 20 bucks. Right. And then next thing you know, we're both in like 200 bucks in

Didn't pull a single winner. CJ's waiting for us to be done so that he can go in on it. And we weren't going to, I wasn't going to let that happen. You know, him steal our money like that. So we kept going. I learned that from Ken. Yeah, that's Ken's motive. And he wins a lot. He waits till you're done. Well, yeah, sometimes. But yeah, once he sees that you're done playing, he goes in. If you didn't win and he cleans up. He's polite.

polite what is polite about i'd say that's the polite way to do it he waits but one time there was a little bit of blurred line that's why it was like all right i'm gonna jump in on this and then to the other people that are like well we weren't like done for the night well then how does that work yeah well if you don't know him then there's no such thing but it's called jump in the box is that what someone did to you uh no no i just self-sabotage and just lost it all myself yeah

Yeah, but then me and Tint were at dinner the next night, and I thought there's no way that I could lose two nights in a row, you know, like any good gambler. I think you're right about that since you're hanging with Tint. Yeah, I think he'd be my lucky charm. Again, it was not going good at all. And then it went really good. We won 500, and it was electric. It was electric. For how excited we were, it made up for all the money lost. So did you come out ahead?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We would do the math because we didn't want to know. We were like just high-fiving and we were like, we're going to take our win and we're going to walk. The best part about that was that you were in, I mean, there's certain bars you could be at and win big and just scream and no one would really care. They go nice. And then you guys were in like a sushi, like quiet. The people around you were, there was no noise.

Just a little soft. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't... I wouldn't recommend anyone gets into it. But it was fun. Most people that play are losers. I think all of them, especially Evan. Especially Evan. Evan, quit playing pull tabs. He's giving us a stick guy right now. You know, it's funny because I think...

when you guys do that, there's no worse usage of your money. I go, oh, these suckers, they lose every time I watch you guys dump in all the money. And I recently signed up for this thing. It's called Coin Tracker and it tracks what my crypto investments are doing when, you know, being a good kid, investing my money into something that can grow and flourish. A freaking update the other day.

The market value, I don't even know. I didn't want to say this. So did you just get this app that's going to tell you your whole portfolio? The whole portfolio up and down. I didn't, I don't know. You don't even really want to say this. Ryan's like, we might end up cutting this. He edits it. You did buy a lot of crypto. I've went pretty deep on crypto. This is going to give a little insight to where all my money is. The market value of my...

Crypto is $16,838. This isn't sounding good. I'm scared. My return on investment is negative $31,330. You've lost 31 grand? I have lost $31,000 investing in cryptocurrency. Oh, wait, hold up. Is that how much you have invested in or from the peak?

No. That is how much money I have lost. I'm speechless. I have lost that amount of money. That's pretty tough. Down 65%. In the last year? The worst part is you could have bought a cool car. We're going to be fine. You could have bought a Lamborghini and not lost that on it. Your Camaro would be...

Going up in value more than... Yeah. So another thing is that are you like... Now, I wouldn't call you like a sneaky investor. Obviously, you just do it on your own time on your own phone. Just a bad one. You know what I'm saying? But there's people who invest and talk about it too much. There's people who invest and talk about it. And then there's people who quietly invest. And I just knew at one time you were pretty heavy in it, at least as heavy as these two because you guys talked about it. Not too much, but...

I didn't realize the extent of the investing. I didn't know you kept going, Ryan. Yeah, yeah. That's the thing is they say buy the dip. I just, yeah, I kept buying. Bought a lot of dips. Ryan bought a lot of dips. Yeah. Well, here's this. How about this? This will make you feel a little bit better. I saw this today. I'm kind of curious. So an NFT that Logan Paul bought for $623,000 in 2021 is now worth $10.

So he lost way more than you, but he also has way more money than you. Dude, I thought that was going to be like... So it's probably comparable. Yeah. Probably is. Yeah. I thought that was going to be like a positive story, and I'm like, high risk, high reward. But that was... No. Clearly the opposite. Dude, I think NFTs, and maybe you'll end up biting my tongue.

later on, but I never quite understood them. It's not the picture. It's the utility. It's the utility. I get that. And I recently... But no one ever follows through with their utility that they promise. Well, I also... They always say all this stuff like, oh, we're going to do this. And if you own this NFT and you're part of our group, you're going to get access to this. And it always just crumbles to the ground. They have...

Millions of dollars and you never hear a peep from them again. And you know that's from nothing. Yeah, it's definitely ridiculous and most of the projects are totally going to flop.

I don't even know if it's the utility behind it, but it's definitely like I still think there is something there. Like if a basketball or a football game ticket on your phone is an NFT versus just a scannable QR code. They have that, dude. Like when I go to went to the MGK concert, I had my tickets on my phone as an NFT.

As an NFT? You can call it whatever you want. It's just a digital ticket. No, but I know you mean it. That's not what I'm saying. A ticket as an NFT. That's not what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, you can get a scannable QR code ticket, which is what you had, or something like an NFT. And if it's the best football game ever, then they're saying that ticket might be worth something someday. Oh, it's like having a framed stub or something like that. Framed stub if you were to go and watch...

Michael Jordan play in a basketball game is record-breaking game or something like that or like it's cool the miracle play for the Vikes when Stefan Diggs caught that one-handed maybe that's worth something as an NFT so it's like

I'm not really vouching for them because they are definitely ridiculous and especially like the stupid projects that Logan Paul like lost $670,000 on. He supposedly was picking the good ones too. But I don't know. I feel like there is something at least there. And this is one of many examples of the more unique ones. But I guess I just recently thought about this in like the last month. Okay, so you remember Dogecoin? Yeah.

That was all hype. And NFTs are basically pumped up by hype. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but that's what it is.

You know, when Dogecoin got hyped up, everyone, some people were making crazy money. And when an NFT gets hyped up, some people make crazy money. Speaking of hype, I thought I had my words on the last podcast a couple of weeks ago when the Vikings lost. But now they're winning again, dude. Yes. It's our year. And I think it's our year. After four wins, we're definitely allowed. I'm getting invested. I think, are we allowed to say that? Dude, we're five weeks in. We're four and one, dude. We're top of the NFC North. We're going to win. We're going to win it all.

The real question, though, is, is this the end of, like, how much deeper is this recession going to go? You know? Because we're totally in a recession right now. Oh, I thought, are we still talking about the Vikings? That was a flip, CJ. Well, we're talking about... Can you imagine the Vikings start winning and the whole economy goes to shit? No, I'm talking back to, like, investing, I guess. I wanted to get that in, but everyone's talking... No, it's okay. We're good. We're good.

I don't want to see those even. Fucking do it. I'll trade the economy for my bikes to win. Sometimes, like, I don't get something in and I usually just bag it. Nah. But I felt that in the past. No, you were just fine. No, no, no. It's definitely within the window. It was just so funny. It was funny.

I think it's getting a lot deeper. It's going to hit the fan, dude. You mean the floor? No, shit's going to hit the fan. The recession won't, though. It's going down. The recession's going to hit the fan and just explode. I don't know. As they do, the Vikings are going to the Super Bowl. That was stupid. I think it's going to get way worse. Really? How much worse can it get? It's already pretty damn bad.

Is it? I think it is. If Ken was in here, he'd know all the actual terms. He'd be like, oh, this is the worst thing. They're just not talking about it type of thing. I think it's going to get way worse. And they're definitely not talking about it. It doesn't seem that bad. It's chaos yet, I don't think. It's weird because I think all the... I mean, what do you expect it to... It seems like the chaos lately has gone kind of down, but the recession has...

gone stronger the inflation's got stronger interest rates are going up like crazy like i just bought a rental condo and had like 6.7 percent on the interest which is super high i was gonna say last one was what like three it's like yeah double what yeah yeah ken he just walked in in a short answer are we in a recession and is it bad yes yes is it really bad or is it only moderately bad

It's bad right now. Is it going to get worse? Ken says, who knows? Should we panic? Buy the fucking dip. I know. We were just talking about that. I've been buying the dip 30 grand ago. Ken walks in and says, yes, we're in a recession. Yes, it's bad. Ryan says, what should we do? Ken goes, buy the dip. Dude, I have so much queso and salsa and guacamole, avocado. He's got all the dip.

So are you still buying crypto, Ryan? Buffalo chicken dip? No, the last bit that I bought, it was on like the 4th of July or something like that. 3rd of July. So he's quit. I bought Ethereum at like 9.15. Oh, that doesn't seem dumb. Great buy. Yeah, it doesn't seem dumb. I mean, so you've had some wins in there too. Yeah, but the coin that I bought previous before that was Ethereum at 4,000. Oh, okay. You just got to hold on. Yeah, just ride it out. Yeah. Ride the wave. Recessions are worse.

like the majority of the wealth is created. Are recessions a scam created by rich people to make people more rich? Maybe. Ken says sure. Recessions are where a majority of the wealthy people excel. That's true, yeah.

Like in the crash 2008, a bunch of people got rich. A bunch of people lost everything. A bunch of people lost everything. If someone's making money, someone's losing it. Speaking of which... So who's making all the money with you guys' pull tabs? It's a charity. It's a donation. I started saving the losing tabs and giving them to the accountant to write them off. They're charitable donations. You already filled up six totes. Taxes are going to be...

Low this year. Along with my bank account. My buddy Kenny doesn't even pay him. Oh, is that how you avoid him? Ken's giving us a look like stop talking about it. Who's the one C-boy who forgot to pay their taxes one year?

Maybe he doesn't know yet. So this is so funny, you guys. So I don't know why all the tax documents go to my mom's. I just need to change the address, but they go there. So she gets them to me when I see her, and she hands me a letter. She just got married last weekend, too. It was kind of crazy, but she hands me this letter as we're at the groom's dinner and was like, ah, hey, I've been meaning to give this to you. Guess what it was? What?

She's like, it's from the IRS. I'm like, that's never fun. It's the way she was coming off. She's like, so I think they're auditing you. No. No way? Yes way. They're auditing you? Yeah. No, but I mean, they're not going to audit you guys. They're auditing me because that was before. Remember, that was when I had my own tax guy.

And it specifically, it doesn't even just says specifically for like on your 1040 from 2020 line 11. Like I haven't even gotten a chance to look that up yet, but cause she just gave it to me, but I'm being audited. And what that really is, is like you said, yeah, I don't know. I'm like, it's so crazy that they, again, you know how they know everything. Like if you're paying enough or not, not enough or whatever, and they know everything, but then they're like, Hey, yeah, you fucked up. So like,

uh, you know, figure whatever out you messed up and then let us know and we'll let you know if it's, and we'll see you in jail. Yeah. So what year was that? So 2020. So it was like, so that was before we had, uh, Chris doing our taxes. And I don't know, I haven't gotten a chance to look at what line 11 is yet, but what the fuck?

Damn, Mike, that was such a cool delivery. Cool as a cucumber. Are you bugging? Dude, Ken is sweating in his boots right now. He's the one who doesn't have pain at all. Ken is like, oh shit, they can do that? It's not like this in the back of my head at all times, but when I think about it, like right now, I'm getting like red and I'm like, I do have to like

figure that out that's the worst part you if you call them they don't answer like i mean straight up i'm not making that up you call them again they don't answer or you sit on hold or whatever it's like well i guess they did hire 87 000 new irs agents and they got you yeah hopefully we can get this figured out quick i think all of us what are they doing with 87 000 new irs agents boston people i don't know left and right

Dude, I just had like a flash in my head the title of the podcast. Yup. Yup. It was going to be our like $2.1 million fine for the track, but fuck, I guess. I mean, if Mike is going to jail with Ken. And then there was like a small part of me that was like, damn, I'm getting audited. Pretty crazy. I mean, I'm talking like 1%, but. Wow, Mike. Yeah.

That is slightly worrying. Well, I'm going to go. Is there any way we can get his name off the business? Just kidding. Yeah, it's like CJ being on the insurance for driving. I think if it definitely became a problem. It's the same as Mike being on the company for paying taxes. Mike, you got to pay your taxes, man. CJ's been getting after me in a pretty...

Mad tone. Oh. For not driving fast enough. No, he just drives so slow. I go five miles per hour over the speed limit and that is not enough for him. We went, we were in his Lamborghini and we left Hay Days before all of you guys and we somehow ended up showing up last. You guys were in trucks all in large trailers. I was driving a 40 foot RV pulling a trailer. Yeah. And how the fuck

We stopped at Taco Bell. Yeah. Maybe they go faster than me. I don't know. I go five people. I need to eat. I go five miles per hour over the speed limit. It was miserable how slow he was driving. I was just like, we're in a Lamborghini right now and you can't drive at least a little faster. Like there's certain spots where you can go fast. What is a little faster going to do though? You shouldn't go fast. What's a little faster going to do? Get us home five minutes before. Made up great time with these guys. Don't speed. Run red lights. I didn't stop once.

Dude, what were they going to do? I'm not saying driving wrong. It's just like, I couldn't believe pretty mad about it. I couldn't believe how slow he was driving. It was like to the books. I'm like, you're in a Lambo right now. We can't have miles per hour over the speed limit. So you're like, you're going 60 in a 55. Yeah. You're not going to get everyone's going 60 in a 55. I'm not saying you need to go fast, fast. I'm just saying like,

There were certain spots where I was like, okay, we could maybe go a little faster. We don't need the putts here. Did I just experience... Okay, but do you realize what would happen if I were to get a speeding ticket...

with a Lamborghini on my insurance at 23 years old and a speeding ticket. I think you'd be surprised. I feel like it wouldn't really be that bad. I don't think it'd be that bad. Yeah, I think you think it's like such a bad consequence that you drive so careful. What's your guys'...

monthly like car payment for insurance. So depends on what vehicle for your GTR, 125 bucks. Mine, mine is four 50 without a single speeding ticket. Probably cause you're driving a fucking house on the road. Yeah. Yeah. So exactly.

imagine how much worse it could be. I don't honestly... Mine's 410. I drive a fucking Camaro. You guys act like I'm a hassle with insurance. I'm assuming the cabriolet is pretty cheap. Well, you are. You are terrible. You have the worst driving record of anyone. Cheapest insurance. That's pretty good. Good for you. I don't know, dude. I have like... See if I have any discounts. I don't know. I got pulled over a lot. He's got like four speeding tickets in the last year. 125 for the GTR.

I think it's like $115 for the Evo, which is even crazier. The Mitsubishi Evo is like a quarter of the value of the GT-R. And it's literally $10 cheaper. So cheap. And then my Raptor is... I don't even know what the month comes out to, but it's like $700 a year. So even less than that. So, I mean, I was just like...

It is really cheap. Dude, the other day, CJ said to me, I don't know why you guys... You were talking about basically this. CJ goes, all I'm saying is, like, if you drive 55 in a 55, like...

Yeah, I can't hang with you, man. I'm not driving with you. I'm not about that. Bro. I feel like everything else we do is pretty risky, so I'm not going to just drive ridiculously fast. We were getting passed by everyone, and then we got passed by our buddies in a motorhome pulling a trailer, and that left after us, and I was like, not physically. No, they didn't.

No, at all. We got home before you. I would just chalk it up if I were you and just say, I don't want a ticket. And I think the way you drive is not going to get you a ticket. Wonderful. But other than that, I mean like... This is the thing though is I haven't gotten a ticket in quite a while and I agree in the five over rule.

There's times maybe coming into a neighborhood, maybe even bump it a little bit less than five over, you know, might be Jenny walking her dog down the street in the middle of the fucking county highway. I have beef over that, but okay. Or, and there's times you get, you get the downhill on the interstate. You can see for the next eight miles, you go, all right, maybe we'll bump it up to nine over. Well,

20 over. Well, no, that's even a lot. I'd say 20 over. You just get a little bit up. But it's the constant under 5 over or under the speed limit that really can irritate when you're in a hurry.

It's just like, are we not trying? I got mad at Slim, Evan's buddy Slim, because he was driving under the speed limit. And I was like, Slim, let's go. We got 18 hours. He was like, I don't want to get a ticket. Got places to go. Yeah, I got shit to do. There's no one out there. The road, there's no one. You can see.

You've got nothing to worry about. I think there's logic behind both. Yeah, and I'm pretty neutral. I like to speed. I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong. I just couldn't believe it that we were driving so slow in a Lamborghini. I hopped in the Lamborghini because I was like, we're getting home quick. I'm trying to get out of here. Well, now you learned your lesson to never ride with me. Yep.

And that's why you should never ride with Ben. Even if he's driving a supercar. You're going to be... You're going to get there... Disappointed. You're going to get there around two to three minutes slower, but you're going to be safe the whole time. And he won't let you eat chicken wings. Oh, that was the other thing. Mike hops in my car with chicken wings. Bone-in chicken wings. Sauce all over the place. And I just go, hey, can you...

Can you maybe not eat chicken wings in my car? And apparently that was just the biggest deal. No.

I mean, you were pretty salty about it. No, I just, that was my first time ever bringing it up. I couldn't believe you would even think of asking that. Dude, it was so funny. Bone in wings? It was like a social experiment. Dude, that's like the messiest thing you could eat. On a plate too, so they were just sliding all over the place. I was picturing a box. Like your fingers, your hands are going to be all sticky and saucy. So you're going to have to touch the door handle or something. I wouldn't have touched the door handle with saucy wings. How are you planning on getting out? Bro.

Wipe them all over myself before I touch the door handle, bro. Still not, like, clean. I'd want you to wash your hands. I had some leftover wings and, like, you know, everything's running gun around here, so I just cooked them. Especially for you because you're a couple steps behind most of the time. Yep. And so, I mean, it was just Ben and I here, and he's like, all right, we got to go to Fargo. And I just cooked these and I hadn't eaten yet, and I tossed maybe two in, and then I was like, eh.

maybe he'll let me eat them in there. But he didn't even let me explain it. But I was like, if I explain myself and I'm like, hey, listen, I'll be really careful. I'm hungry. Or yeah, if I was just like, dude, fuck off. I'm hungry. But I went in there and you're just like, nah, dude. And then I'm like, but okay. So if I like, you know, I brought the paper towel. Mm-mm.

Get food later. And then that was it. That was it. That's tough too. Cause it's like really, even if you did spill a little water, clean it right up. Oh, and that's also not my very expensive car. No, if I spilled, I would have like, yeah, I'd have been like, dude,

Why'd you let me? Yeah, whatever. Why'd you let me do that? That's for you to fucking send, Mike? No, I would not. Mike is supposed to... Seriously, Ben, why did you let me do that? You were supposed to protect me from this situation. Dude, you got to push this picture up on the podcast because I think you guys would enjoy it because it's so cringy. But the... Well, I just put on my story. But basically, the me in the monster shirt and the monster hat and the monster skateboard and green pants...

with the skateboard. And then I captioned it like, why didn't anyone stop me? That's what I think about my transitions. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, I just looked so... You were on, like, the badass side and you were kind of on the nerdy side. But still, we both should have been stopped. Someone needs to intervene. You guys were on the extremes of both. Yeah. I shouldn't say badass. I should say punk. Yeah, a punk or whatever. But it's, like, just typical skater kid. You could have been, like, a Tumblr boy with that. Yeah.

Yeah, almost. Remember Tumblr? And I was like, I almost look like I know what I'm doing. If people knew how bad I skated, they'd be like... That'd be the worst part. You carrying around that skateboard. Can't even skate. You're a pretty good skater now, though. No, that's not... Yeah, I... That was okay, but... Not good enough to be dressed in that good. Not good enough to be wearing Monster. I always think about high school Mike, and I...

to picturing him wearing like purple skinny jeans. I mean, did you have purple skinny jeans? Yeah. Oh, you did? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, if we can find it. Yeah, I would wear like a white flannel and purple skinny jeans and like a rogue status shirt. I'd probably skate to school from like my car. Oh, okay. I was going to say you're just pushing down a gravel road. Yeah, dude, I skated to school. It was either drive my tractor or skate to school. How many times did you drive your tractor? I drove it once for drive your tractor to school day. Was that actually a day? Yeah.

really drive your tractor to school day how many people would pull up for ffa week uh dude 20 25 let's say did anyone drive their lawnmower yeah yeah oh yeah people in town would drive their lawnmower what about like a full-on combine no one ever did that can you drive your combine to bring your tractor to school day because that'd be cool i think you could should bring should have brought like a fertilizer

One of those things that sprays the cross. Then you could have had people driving underneath it. That'd be a sweet video shot. Just like driving down the road. We do need to do that. We go under it. Big tractor meetup. I've been meaning so long for it. My grandpa gave me like a really old John Deere tractor. I've been meaning so long to get it in a video and just do something dumb with it. Not like ruin it or anything. Just a collectible like... Yeah, definitely not ruin it. But you know like... Very...

Have like a tug off with like sentimental, sentimental, not ruin it. I know. Sentimental, sentimental. Dude, I've been messing up words. And the first person that corrects me usually is Ryan. I didn't say anything there.

I know, but you want it. I did. I wanted to. You wanted to. And then Ken will follow it up very quickly, and then Mike will just be the cherry asshole on top. Dude, honestly, I think that's good for you. That's fun. You know? No, I know. It's funny. Someone's got to. It makes me feel better because you guys do the exact same thing to CJ, too.

I mean, yeah, basically, like, if anyone messes up a word, the normal thing to do is, like... I think that's what a good friend would do, though. Yeah, exactly.

Maybe our delivery isn't always the best. I just don't like it when we're in something very serious trying to get something done and you have to make a big deal about one of us saying a word wrong. If it is pronounced slightly wrong, you're like... It's pretty juvenile. It's just like, bro, let's just carry on. We got some shit to do here. We're over here critiquing how you talk. You're right. It's pretty juvenile. I was trying to spell acknowledge just this morning.

and i was just about i was just in a rush and i was just gonna i knew it was spelt wrong i was just about to send him i was like i just don't want to give ryan any ammo no so i literally chat anymore i literally looked up on google i literally looked up i just like oh right of course that's how you spell acknowledge and i went and correct it so if you scroll back to my earliest message i think i texted like 701 i was like none of these people are even acknowledging me someone else has to text them and i

I had to double check that word. And I, I did think of you more. So that is unfortunate. I wish you didn't think of that as a negative way, but like, I don't think it's fucking embarrassing. Like if one day you're doing the today show after we've done something good and you're up there and you're like, Oh, we would 100%. If it was me or CJ, we would 100% try and say something. That's like a little bit smart. So I wouldn't even try to say something smart. I just don't know unless I really know what I'm talking about. But yeah,

Yeah, I mean, on the bright side, now I know how to spell acknowledge, which I think I already did know. It just kind of slipped my mind. Dude, there's some words that... I was in a rush. I wasn't thinking in a negative way. I just was like, I just want to get my point across and keep it going. I don't want to have to go on this whole tangent about how I don't know how to spell acknowledge. Yeah, I don't think we do in the group chat anymore. We used to, I know. Unless it's absurd, which...

Sometimes I can't control myself. If it's just absurdly... Spell absurd. Wrong. A-B-S-U-R-D. Nice. Acknowledge is a good example. Let's just say this is how we handle absolute dicks. Ryan or CJ says acknowledge or something. Then in a conversation, they're just talking. It could even be a serious situation. Then Ben and I would look at each other and go...

Acknowledge. And we would just like say it back to each other. And then, yeah, we're just being bullies. We could be in like the most time crunch situation though, where it's like someone could be fucking hanging off a cliff. I'm like, like help save him. And you guys be like, he said this word. He said him. That's it. You know, like. Save him. Fucking Ken's hanging off a cliff. At least we're keeping things light around here.

I just royally messed up a word today. I can't think of what it was. It was bad, though. It was so bad. I can't remember. I think CJ might have even tried it on that one. I didn't say shit. I'll try to write down tomorrow's fuck up. Okay. All right. Should we wrap? Yeah, we can wrap it up.

Beautiful time, boys. That was fun. Feels good to be back on here. Yes, I'm with the boys. That was. Thanks for listening and watching. We'll be back next week and the week after that. And if we get to 150K, we're going to have Evan on and he's going to speak.

He did a great job on the last podcast. He said three things. He did. And you know what? The first podcast that we ever did, I didn't talk either. I know the feeling. The less you talk, the harder it gets to say a word. I feel for him. He did a great job. He's a good kid. 150K. He'll speak. Beautiful. Ending out. Beautiful.

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