From Broke To X Games Gold Medalist: Brett Turcotte 01:44:13

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Alrighty guys, welcome back to the Life Wide Open podcast. We have a bit of a special edition here this week. We're at 509's headquarters in Spokane, Washington, and we have the man, the myth, the legend, Brett Turcotte on. Oh yeah, he had all of it right except for the legend part of it. Oh, I was thinking there's all kinds of athletes crawling out there or at least showing up and we somehow got the best one sitting next to us here. Well, if you're

If you're not first, you're last. What do you mean? Yeah, dude, this is exciting. There's a little bit of a kickoff to the 509 headquarters brick and mortar store, I like to call it. So us and all the athletes. I love everyone's. David's very clear about that. The athletes are coming. Meet the athletes.

and sea boys because they are not athletes that's accurate yeah not athletes for sure so you made it down to america we made it dude honestly today it was like gnarly we're up early with my dad nikki and i were up at like five in the morning to go try and get an elk we're gonna get an elk here's how it was supposed to play out we're gonna get an elk we're gonna just leave my dad with it to deal with it and then come down here and hang with you guys and and do this five or nine kickoff to party uh

But the elk was on the other side of the river. It was foggy. We couldn't see. So we pulled the pin, got down here nice and early. And now we're sitting down having a good time. So did you drive from your house? Where do you live now? Kamloops, BC. So like pretty much smack dab center interior British Columbia. Got it. Pretty much the best spot for me as an athlete for snowmobiling to be because within two hours of any direction is the best snowmobiling in North America and maybe even the world. Revelstoke, right? Yeah.

where's your idea? Revelstoke is like the visual, the visual, the back pocket, the back pocket doors are, uh, yeah, they're not in Revelstoke. Okay. The ones that we don't speak of. Yeah. Well, the ones that I'd say we don't even know about. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And that's the best kept secret. And, uh, you just go North of Kamloops and you'll find it. So that's awesome. Where in British Columbia did you grow up? Uh, actually an hour North of

uh, Kamloops in Clearwater, BC, small, super small town, like small enough that my grandma was my delivery nurse. Okay. Yeah. Were you born in like a bathtub or? No, damn near, dude. Yeah. Small hospital. Okay. Yeah. Small hospital. My, my grandma was a nurse there and she, she delivered me and my brother actually. So yeah, pretty, pretty neat story. Uh, and just grew up in this small town with, with big dreams. And, uh, here we are. Ah, so the big dream started at a young age.

So that's, yeah, what we wanted to get into. When, when did you know that you wanted a career in snowmobiling? I don't know if it was ever really a want. It was just kind of something like developed, you know, it was like, um,

you know, I was in hockey and, and I told David the kind of the same story. I was in hockey and, and they put me on defense cause I was kind of like a chunkier kid. And my brother was the goalie. So I just go in and I clean the crease. And finally the, the refs would like come over and talk to my parents after the game. Like, you got to tell your boy, like you can't be doing that. Like there's not the NHL.

you know and i was like well i'm gonna play hockey for a living that and yeah you know my brother was a goalie he's a really good goalie and uh it was my job to protect him um but when you're eight and nine years old cross checks from behind don't really fly so yeah you know i made the decision kind of cumulatively with my family with with everybody around me that um you know i wasn't going to play hockey anymore and the next best thing that i could do with my with my dad was to go snowmobiling and

Uh, yeah, I just, it was a crazy whirlwind from the time that I'm, you know, Hudson's age, she's six now. It's a crazy flashback to, to put myself kind of in those shoes, you know? And like, if I wanted to go snowmobiling, it was with my dad. And if he wanted to go snowmobiling, he had to bring me, uh, you know? So it was kind of, cause my mom would take my brother to the rink. So, you know, I kind of just grew into it naturally. He had a snowmobile dealership, actually had a Polaris dealership. So, um,

you know, in my career has went full circle. I started on Polaris, went to a couple other brands here. I am back on Polaris and, uh, yeah, I feel right at home. So did you start in freestyle or did you start in racing? Started in racing. And, uh, actually my first X games medal was in racing in snow cross in 2008. Uh,

I was racing on the Blair Morgan race team, which was like kind of the coveted team. So if you were to compare that to Supercross right now, that's like the pro circuit team, right? Or like factory Kawasaki or, you know, like at the highest level that you could be at. Yeah. We were competing against Tucker Hibbard and you guys from being from Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, it was always the Blair versus Tucker battle, right? And, and,

so Blair developed this team and, and I got to race on it and, uh, you know, I got to, um, you know, have some success there and just moment in moment in time, I just decided that, uh, that racing wasn't really going down the road that my life was. And, uh, I just made the decision that I'm going to stick around at home and, and, uh, just do this free ride thing. And

and i did one of my first years was in 2009 with the sled necks and uh i was right riding one of my old race sleds my practice sled that the team had given me and uh you know i was doing all of these these big things and i always i'd always seen these sled neck movies when i was growing up and i was like man i'd love to be there and and i got there and i was like whoa this is reality now like i like i there's something here but i was working full time i was logging you know i was

I had to like pay my dues. Exactly. And, uh, and then I met my wife Nikki and she seen what I was doing, but then also it was like, yeah, you know, like working is cool, but like, I think that there's something more for you. So she kind of gave me like the support and the nudge to push, to take my career from full-time logger, part-time filmer, the other way around to just like full-time filmer, full-time X games. She goes like,

you know, what do you want to do with your life? And I was like, well, I want to win more X Games medals. And she goes, okay, so why aren't you doing X Games? And I kind of had to like explain the process and I hadn't done backflips. I hadn't really done a bunch of freestyle tricks. And she goes,

well, I've seen the way that you ride. Like, you, you know how to do those things. Like, why aren't you doing them? And, uh, yeah, for sure. Like, uh, I owe it all to her to, you know, that was the, that was the push that I needed to get my career going to, to where it is now. Right. Cause that was kind of my question was like, you, you obviously knew that you were capable of some sort of, uh, free riding, you know, you had all these years of riding under your belt. Yeah.

Yeah, I was like, when was this transition of you being like, it was it one day you had out with all those guys? Super awesome. But then you just said it was like her. Yeah, pushing you. And I think that it was planted in my brain the night that I was like, pretty drunk after my first X Games snowcross medal and my manager at the time. It was the first year that they ever did freestyle at X Games and Levi had won, but he was also racing snowcross and didn't place. Yeah.

And he kind of like pulled me to the side and he's like, what do you think about that freestyle stuff? He's like, you think you can backflip a snowmobile? I'm like, if I had the resources, man, anything's possible. And then it wasn't long after that I quit racing and went down the like free ride. You know, I did the free ride thing where it was like, it was in the back country. We were shoveling jumps. That was just like, that was just personal expression. It wasn't for recognition. Although I did have one moment where kind of like set myself apart and

in those years with that huge GoPro drop. Yeah. So like went pretty viral on, on Facebook and YouTube. Which like clips like that few and far between at the time. Yeah, for sure. Like GoPros were like this huge thing, right? You're like mounted it to your helmet in this clear case and it had terrible audio and, um,

um you know that that singular clip actually landed my monster energy contract really and that like backcountry right yeah it was strictly as a backcountry athlete for you know just making films and um nikki came into my life at the right time and kind of saved me and showed me a path that uh has led us to this insane lifestyle that i now call my job okay how many x games have

gold medals do you have i got three golds four silvers and one bronze actually two bronze because we found a spare one the other day you know you got a lot of surprise me at all yeah uh and two of them came in one year right yeah yeah the golds yeah 2018 double golds uh insane the the backstory behind that one is so deep and so gnarly um nikki and i just gotten married 2017 in the spring in may and

A week later, I snapped myself off on a dirt bike, break my tailbone, break my ankle. We spent our honeymoon in the hospital. I was laid up and I was having just those dark days or those down days where I'm like, what?

is this really what I should be doing? Like we've got a young family together where, you know, we've got a house with a mortgage and like, right. Yeah. That had to have had at least one of those moments. Yeah. I feel like natural thoughts after a bad injury. It's like, do I really want to do this? Yeah. And so, you know, we, we kind of did it the natural way and, and, uh, Nikki got me back on my feet. And within three months again, I was, I was back riding dirt bikes and, um,

That, that season I just dedicated everything that I possibly could. Every ounce of energy, every ounce or every minute of time was, was focused towards like a big comeback and, and shows. Yeah, it definitely does. For sure. Lucky enough for you, you're able to put that time in, but when you do it, it shows. Yeah. And it comes at sacrifice. You know, there was times where I missed putting Hudson to bed and missed getting Hannah to the bus in the morning and, and, uh, you know, my other two kids and, and,

But for me, that was, that was such a drive in my life. That was, that was a goal, right? I had, I had one silver medal and I had a bronze at that time. And I was like, there's more, there's, there's more for me. And, and,

And for me, it was, it was kind of personal. It was, I wanted to do things on snowmobiles that hadn't ever been done. And so I'd go to the foam pit and just beat the shit out of myself for hours on end each day until I got these tricks nailed. Then I would take them to the airbag and land them. And I would send Nikki the video cause she's at home, like managing the family and making sure that the bills are getting paid and my sponsors are happy and we're producing content. Um,

you know, and I'm, I was just like, so channel focused on, on one goal. And, uh, to go in there, I won the first one against Levi. It was really cool in speed and style. Uh,

I don't know that I have ever had a battle with Levi that I've won. If you go back and watch the footage, you could tell that he like had a bit of a, you know, he was, he was aggressive and, and that was how it was like to race Levi LaValle. Like that's, that's who he is, you know? Yeah. It's so cool that we've actually been able to have conversations with both of you because you two are,

are two of the strongest, tallest pillars in the snowmobile industry. You said tall, man, and him and I are very tall, dude. But it's cool because Monster and Red Bull, it was almost like a pretty...

like cool back and forth type of thing you guys had going. Yeah, for sure. You know, and, um, and battling him, I knew that he was going to try and push me off the track or get inside of me. And it was, but I was so focused on my tricks because I knew that, you know, if I was going to beat him anywhere, it was probably going to be on the tricks. And, uh, you know, if you go, go back and watch the footage, uh,

You can see that I stayed close to him for quite a while. And then I opened up a gap and that was because the snow from his snowmobile was going into the intake of my motor. And it was like causing my motor to run very bad. And, and so then I was like ingesting water and my sled was blurbling and doing all sorts of weird stuff. And I'm trying to hit these ramps and do backflips. Yeah. You know, and I'm like, oh man, I got to give him some space. And at that point I was like, okay, well I'm either going to win on style. Like I can't win on speed. I can't be this close to him. Mm-hmm.

Um, and that one, I mean, as much as it was a TV show was, was a movie. Like they wait, they made us wait so long to announce who the winner was. And, and, uh, yeah, that moment, uh, I'll never forget that one. Nikki was right there behind me with Hudson. Hudson was just tiny, you know, like I remember Nikki like hanging her off of the hip and

And you go back and watch the footage and we experienced that as a family and my dad's there and yeah, it was really awesome. And then to back that up with a freestyle gold the next night was, was pretty wild. You're kind of like the king of snowmobile backflips. I feel like, yeah, just man, I really like pulling back. I think so. That's your like favorite move to do on a sled, right? Yeah, for sure. Anything that you can like,

pull back or ride away from you know like i've been doing re-entries and doing 180s and stuff since i was like a kid in 2005 2006 like doing the big 180 stuff is kind of it's gone for me now yeah that that sort of uh thrill i guess well i'd say like as of late too most

Most pictures that people see of you, like Carter's trailer for the Stoke trailer you just had wrapped, you're upside down on it. That's not uncommon at all. Yeah, the main door in here, you're upside down. You look at it and you go, wait, is that picture upside down? You're like, nope, just Brad. Sometimes I get tripped out because one of my favorite tricks to do is like a tsunami backflip. So I'll get the snowmobile to do a backflip and then I'll do a handstand underneath of it while it's flying upside down. You'd actually take that picture and flip it 180 and it works that way. It works the same way.

because I could do that trick upside down or right side up. You pulled one of those at Hay Days, I believe. And I was standing watching. It was Sunday. And I texted you about it. And when you went around, it seemed like it took a bit longer than normal to come around on it. Yeah, it felt like an eternity. And, you know,

You know, it's one of those things where it's like probably one of the gnarlier tricks in my, in my bag, but it's also the one that I'm the most comfortable with. And it's just, it's yeah. You pull hard and you step off the back and hope that the sled's going to fly around your head. Yeah. It is so gnarly, but the crowd, it, everybody was changing, but that was electric for a Sunday crowd. Yeah. You hear the whole, a whole field of people start roaring after something like that. So sweet. I was hoping for that trick on Saturday and it just didn't work out for me. I had a little bit of radiator issues. Um,

Oh, Blaine, I was hoping for that trick on Saturday. Uh, it just didn't work out. The big crowd was there, but I had a radiator issue on the back of my snowmobile, had a small leak in the waffles and it was a pretty steady drip out of there. So I had to shut the snowmobile down and kind of just enjoy the dirt bike while I had it. And, uh, as soon as that show was done, I went back into the pits, got

grabbed as much JB weld as I could. And I just started filling every seam and every crack that I could have that radiator to try and be ready for Sunday. It is pretty gnarly that normally you would think of when you're doing that, people would be like, Oh, I can't do that. I can't do that on my sled. You know, I got a leak in the radiator or whatever. And you're just like, no, JB welded up. Like you're, you do all the normal tricks that we do around the shop too, just to get the thing to run. Right. And then you're still throwing gnarly tricks on it. I think,

there is something to be said about like it's so it's your favorite trick you said sometimes it feels like the easier trick to do sometimes in a way in a weird way I don't know sometimes I would rather do that trick than just a straight back right but it's like and then there is moments like people have seen you do that maybe multiple times at least on YouTube or social media but then when you don't do it Saturday they're like whoa

what's he pussing out for? But there is, there's a lot of back. Yeah, buddy, you hit that freestyle ramp. It's awesome. We, we've been to, I don't know, a hand Jackson, Jackson, and then heydays. And then no, I guess me and a couple of buddies were at nitro rally cross when you were there too. Yeah. And, uh, it's fun. Usually Nikki is right there watching you. Like, I mean, you're, you at this point don't even seem nervous anymore, but I was going to ask, I wanted to actually, if,

We could maybe some by pulling Nikki, but does Nikki get your end? Does Nikki get nervous for you? Cause I saw after that flip, she was walking around. She went like this. You look nervous. I actually believe that when I stopped and pulled up to her and shake, you're such an asshole. Why'd you go and do that? It's Sunday. Uh,

She's actually the one that pushed me to do those tricks to begin with. So it's a double edged sword for her. It stresses her out. I mean, that's dangerous, right? We've got a family, we've got bills to pay. We got, you know, the list goes on, but she's confident in my abilities. She can see it. She can tell from the time that I wake up in the morning, how the day is going to go. Yeah. You know, so perfect example. Yeah. So I leave the Coeur d'Alene show, which is about two weeks before heydays. And I rode, I

said snowmobile at Coeur d'Alene and I go home and I take that snowmobile apart and I'm going through stuff and I have my flip levers off which is the parts that I flip up and when I'm doing backflips and I'm doing that trick they hold me to the snowmobile while I'm rotating around so I had those off because I was doing something to the bars and

I looked at her and, and I'm kind of just like, I don't know if I want to bring those this weekend, you know, like it's heydays. Like I got lots going on. It's going to be. Cause then it wouldn't pressure you. It's going to be hectic, you know? And she looks at me and she knows me better than myself. She goes, you know that if you don't put those on, you're going to be pacing around heydays, looking for somebody that's got a set. Cause you're feeling good. Like you got a 600 mod. It's loud. It's really fun to ride. And you're going to want to go and do your biggest trick. And, uh,

at that moment I was like, okay, they're getting bolted on. I guess you're right. Yeah. You know, um, and yeah, just given the circumstances at Haydays, it's a gnarly show. It's in the middle of a, um, I don't want to call it a gravel pit, but it's this sand is 300 feet by 300 feet wide sandbox. Yeah. And we're jumping snowmobiles inside of it. And,

Yeah. In the middle of August or September. In the middle of August. I mean, so was there ever a time, I guess as far as freestyle went, was there ever a time when they're, when airbags were not a common thing or AKA didn't even exist? Yeah. I mean, I, I feel like I stepped into the freestyle game right when airbags were becoming a thing. Um,

That being said, a lot of the tricks that I learned prior to my double gold medal year was learn them in the foam pit, foam to snow. Really? And that was like a gnarly equation because when we were training at DeMello's place in southern BC, he doesn't get much snow there, like a few inches at a time. So we would grab his kid's steer and we would just scrape up as much snow as we could and put it up onto one of his freestyle motocross landings.

And then you get like four or five hits and then all the snow just gets washed off. Right. Um, it's terrifying. Yeah. And so I did that for like three years and then finally airbags became a thing and bag jump. And that seemed like a, a no brainer. Yeah. Cause now all of a sudden, yeah. Now all of a sudden we're putting this airbag on the top of a frozen dirt landing and you're actually not even feeling the dirt. So that changed the game. Uh,

learning the tricks though is still to foam and people have this gnarly image of these foam pits are just like do anything you want into them you know don't they still hurt oh man i've heard things gonna happen i've been hurt more in the foam pit trying snowmobile tricks than i have been actually on my snowmobile riding you know like yeah there's you you know nikki can attest to it and and

you know, shitty Nick, my mechanic, like it's hard on snowmobiles and it's hard on the body. And when you're trying these tricks and, and, and pushing yourselves and trying to push the sport of snowmobiling, it gets like, I

I had one year, I'm going to call it 2019. I wrote it down in my journal. I actually, I became scared of the foam pit. I had to like just not foam pit ride for over a week because I was so banged up and so beat up. And I just like had this image in my mind that if I jump into this foam pit, it's going to hurt, you know? Um, and so I like, that was a mental block for me. I had to, I had to like park the sled and not jump the sled into the foam pit because

So yeah, airbags kind of open it up because anytime you can ride away from a trick, it feels so much better than getting back on the snowmobile and driving into that foam. Like there's been times where I hit the bottom of the pit. There's been times where I've been folded upside down.

or folded in half upside down underneath my snowmobile and it's dripping gas into my eye and I'm wondering if I'm going to catch on fire like yeah waiting for the crane to come and yank you out of the thing yeah if the guys can get to you damn and if you get hurt in there like it feels like an eternity I bet

I never knew that. Like being a guy who just watched people go into foam pits, you know, you watch like Travis and Nitro Circus and all that. You go, oh yeah, they just do it in the foam pit. It's okay. It's all cool. And the more that we've talked to people who have experience with them, they go, no, they hurt. It hurts worse than landing the trick. That's for sure. Perfect example would be like if you had a puddle of water and you took a piece of bread, call it toast, and you dropped it straight up and down into the water and it kind of like falls through and then just kind of washes out. Like,

The dirt bike falls through the foam and kind of takes a lot of like it slices through the foam. Whereas like the snowmobile be like, if you took the piece of bread and laid it flat and you drop it onto the water, it just slaps. There's so much surface area with the skis and the track and everything that the foam helps, but it's certainly, um, that's not soft. Yeah.

you've been working on a trick i've seen i believe the video i saw yeah you're doing it was in the back country the front flip yeah has anybody front flipped a snowmobile uh yeah heath frisbee did it i i can't quote the year because i'll get it wrong but heath frisbee did it in the x games in best trick like so gnarly dude and so committed he spent an entire season committed to that front flip and um

I was like, okay, like it's possible. I don't want to go do it to the phone pit. Cause I seen how terrifying it was. Yeah. Um,

I just believed in my abilities and believed in my skill. And, uh, it was like, I'm just going to take this thing to snow. You know, you did it in the back country, right? Or did you practice? No practice necessary. I mean, obviously it was necessary, but I just, I didn't, didn't really feel like I needed to. I, in my mind, I was landing that one and riding away and, um,

you know, unfortunately it just didn't really go the way that I had anticipated and I got splatted. Yeah. Essentially like a, you know, fly swatter with a, with a bug. So, um,

Were you okay? Yeah. What was the recovery on that? I mean, I was walking. Yeah. That's what I mean. That like a trick like that is like, I think David had called us and he was like, Brett crashed and like, it could have been really bad, but he's like 15 minutes later. I like stand up and I'm like, where did all of these people come? Oh, so that like, but I had like a 25 person crew that with me the entire day. Whoa.

Okay, so could you walk us through it? Oh, because this was for your real snow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was a bit of a cruise. That's cool. Yeah. It was a huge cruise. So in that day, I had landed a world's first, and I had this aspiration. I'm going to do three worlds first in three days. Okay. And so the day before, I did a tsunami backflip snow to snow. The following day, we went and built this huge flip jump, and I did a secret backflip snow to snow. Okay.

And then in that same afternoon, I'm like, okay, I'm feeling it. This is good. Like, let's go find this front flip spot. And I was just checking boxes, you know, and like had motivation and obviously some confidence and I was feeling good. And, and the crew around me was very supportive and we had a safety plan and, uh, we found this front flip spot and I built the little cheater bump in it and, uh,

You know, that is supposed to be only as wide as the track is. Right. And the skis don't hit that. And so the front of the, uh, snowmobile skid is supposed to hit that cheater bump and put all of the inertia into the back end of the snowmobile. And it should be pushing me on my heels and like trying to buck me over the bars. Yeah.

Uh, that didn't happen. The, I watched the footage back and the, the nose of the snowmobile smeared that cheater bump out. Cause you hit it so fast. It just, yeah, it was like too abrupt and it was too soft. I should have like let it set overnight. So it was like rock hard. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, the nose cone of that,

the nose cone of the snowmobile just like smeared that bump flat and it was basically like a pretty flat lip. So I was trying to front flip off of something that like, not to take it away from you guys, but like something you guys would, you know, exactly like, like it wasn't consequential or there was a bit of a downhill landing. It was like a tabletop jump. The lip wasn't crazy steep, but that little center section was, um,

was uh supposed to be the the make or break kicker it broke yeah did you know immediately like you felt it like oh crap oh this is i'm sorry i had to do that what do you think of him by the way he seems nice great guy um yeah i knew right away man i went off of the lip

And I grabbed a handful of brake and I pinched the tunnel and I leaned forward and I looked through my elbow, right? Cause I've, yeah, it was full commitment. Yeah. I looked through my elbow and I'm dragging in my heels and I see the lip go by and

And then I see sky and I see sky and I see sky and I'm like, oh man, it's not going white. Like I was expecting to see snow again. Um, and I'm, I'm doing all this looking through my elbow in about 0.5 of a second, you know? Yeah. It's, and it's registering and I'm like, I'm dead. Like I, I'm looking through my elbow like this and last minute I just look straight up and get linear with the snowmobile and just got hot tubbed. Like, oh,

I, I was a little bit separated from the snowmobile and I held onto the bars. And when the snowmobile punched me into the hole, um, I was actually hanging on bars so hard that they snapped off on each side of the riser. And I punched the dash and shattered the tip of my finger off. It's like close, close to losing it. You know, like Cody Matichak and Cody McNulty were there and,

like i would flip the sled off and they peel me out of the hole and and uh it was kind of like the the roadrunner scenario you know they're like peeling and i'm like man i can't feel my finger i can't feel my finger and they like take my moto glove off and i'm like how is it and cody looks at me he's like it's gonna be fine he like grabs whatever is the closest and just covers it yeah you know

But I like got up, walked away from it. Oh my God, that's crazy. Didn't have a... The somewhat beauty of snow, the fact that you got punched in. Yeah, for sure. And had somewhere to go versus having it be dirt. Yeah, like if that was to a landing, I would have been... Different story. I probably wouldn't be here right now. Yeah. Yeah, that was kind of the mentality. I'm like, I'm either going to land this thing or I'm going to get flown out of here, you know? That's why we had a safety plan. We knew where cell service was. We had search and rescue. We knew what time...

The helicopter could fly until like, it was down to like within the 20th minute, you know, like we called, got the heli on its way and, and, uh, got me, got me loaded up. And, and I was talking to the pilot on the, on the flight out. Cause I was filming and kind of like just kind of messing around, you know, pretty concussed and, and,

And I was like, oh, this is a nice way to leave the mountain. And I'm like watching all of my buddies ride their snowmobiles out along the ridge. Like it was actually pretty peaceful for what went on an hour before that. Oh my gosh. But yeah, just having good people around me definitely made me want to do that one. And I wouldn't say that it's off of the table, but it's not something that I'm looking at right now. You know? I mean, I think just you trying it, that's huge. Also, I mean...

Was this one on the 146? Yeah, it was on a 146. Yeah, okay. It's not on a snowmobile. And so that, like, for that particular one threw me off. But then for all the other ones, I was like, to be honest, this is huge for you and huge for Polaris. Like, you're not on a purpose-built freestyle sled. Yeah, it was a 146 Assault. Yeah, you just put your little touches on it and then went for it. I had a seat grab seat built that I just took water pipe, like 8-inch water pipe, melted it down.

and stuffed it into my seat. That's how you make it. I didn't know that. Evan's going home to make one when he gets back. Yeah, that's a whole tutorial in itself. Literally. Yeah, so I had a seat grab seat in it. It had stock suspension in it and

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You got called in and you just stayed right there. Bye.

You're coming in. I'm calling you out. I'll get Micah to call you out. We're going to talk about how Micah tried to take you home with my mustache. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you noticed I shaved my mullet off quite literally like a day before I came here. But that was the last time. Was it even the last? I don't know. When we were in Jackson. You had a mullet at Hay Days? Yeah, right, right. I kept it for Hay Days, but I

I shaved my mustache to look just like you, which you obviously saw. That was great. I loved it. It was a look. I already loved my mullet. And then I did that. And then I put on an American flag shirt and I just started floating. See, the problem is now that you don't have the mullet, dude, you're going to lose your wings. Like somebody just worried about that. You legit just got snipped, dude. I was worried about that. I heard you say something and then I'm like...

And then when everyone was like, dude, you're, you're kind of killing it lately. Like, and I was like, it's the mullet just kind of being funny, but maybe that wasn't a lie at all. I, I mean, I've, I've cut my hair in the past and, and I kind of go on this like one haircut a year sort of scenario. And I just let Nikki do it. It looks like it's trimmed up a bit. Yeah. A little bit. I don't know. I cut it a while ago. Yeah. Um,

But I love like the flap of the hair just on the back of the helmet. Especially in the helmet. You know? Yeah. Like when I'm in the air or if I'm going fast, that's how I know. That's my gauge. Yeah. When the hair's in the way. You're like, you hit a big jump, you get a couple of hair whips on the back of the helmet. Like, oh, that's a nice one. Just do a real fat trick and you're like, dude, did you see my hair though? Or like the slow-mo, like when you see the video after, you're like, man, that guy's got good hair. Yeah. Yeah.

The front of my hair sucks, so I just got to rely on the back. Keep the hat on. Keep the helmet on. Yeah. Let the party flow. Yeah. I'd say, I think I got less gray hair than you. Dude, I earned these. I'm more. I'm sorry. More. I earned all of these ones. I was like, damn, dude. Yeah.

Call him the old bro. Actually earned every single one of these. Yeah. It comes with having three daughters. Also maybe the lifestyle that I've lived and partying and freestyle motocross and freestyle snowmobiles. Mixed up it all. Yeah. I didn't, I mean, we talked with saying sometimes about it, like the days, the party days in the, in sled necks and anything among that same genre of, of,

and partying is wild. Beyond wild, I heard. I mean, you know, just... Thank you, Nikki. Thank you. She could see that we're all getting empty. Pull up a seat. Yeah, so I would like... Nikki, would you like to come in for a little bit? Can you take over for Evan, please? I can. Okay. Please do.

Brett was talking a lot about how much you have helped him through his career. And I feel like you guys are a bit of a power couple in the snowmobiling industry. Full blown. Yeah, full blown. She's actually got her own fan club.

I do. Okay. I was wondering if we could bring this up. You do have your own fan club. I do. Apparently. I just found out about it at heydays. Um, Brett was finishing a freestyle show or I think that he was walking somewhere and these guys walk up to him and this sign and it's literally forget Brett. We're here to see Nikki. Yeah.

I was impressed. I got like a little turned on. Mama still got it. So then they come over and they're just like, oh man, like we just like really wanted to meet you. This is like our, our highlight of the entire trip. Like, oh, so they were like, they weren't, um, no, they're straight up. Like they weren't just schmoozing you. I mean, they were like, no, and then he,

hey, I want to show you something really cool. And he pulls out his phone and there's a fan club and there's like 30 to 40 dudes in this group chat. Whoa. And it's called Nikki T Fan Club with like a peach. It's amazing. On what? Like Facebook? No, it's like just like a group chat. Like it was an Instagram group chat. Yeah. Or something. Amazing. And then,

I'm just like, oh my goodness. And then I like made a post about it because I was... And then they came back. They're like, our wives are pissed. Oh, shit. Sorry, not sorry, but... Nikki's just over here ruffling feathers. Literally. Yeah, I'm not surprised that their wives are pissed, but what are you going to do? They made the group chat. Yeah. Well,

of the day I went and followed them on Instagram and I like you know followed their wives your husband's so great he came and said hi you know like because I'm I'm a like girl like I love women maybe not

She loves women. That's all. But it's always like, hey, like your wife, your girlfriend, you're, you know, like it's always. And they're cool dudes, man. And I mean, if you're going to go through the motions of you, you're not going to go to heydays and make a sign and not be seen, you know? That's true. Like, are they that mad or are they kind of just downplaying the fact that like, oh, we like kind of met Nikki and she's pretty nice, you know, like.

It's pretty cool, though. Just a picture for memory reasons. It's not the first heydays where Nikki's gotten some attention, either. I mean, there was one there was...

A few years ago when we were walking around the swaps, it said free beer for hot moms or something. Oh, Evan. Classic. Yeah, I feel like maybe that might have been. That was amazing. Yeah, Evan would totally hold a sign like that. So he actually, that was his booth. Oh. No way. I was like, that is totally something Evan would do. But of course it was him. Before he was even associated with you guys, that's where he was.

Yeah, that's how Nikki first met Evan. And he messaged me here. He's like, you know, that was my booth. No, it wasn't. So good. Yeah, it was really good. Turkey Reinhart was cruising around with Larry and Tyser at the time. I remember that. That was fun. Larry's on a comeback. I did see that. He's been blowing up on TikTok. I think he got a manager signed. My favorite thing about, yeah, so we'll see how that goes.

Sometimes managers are good and sometimes they're not. I'm a good manager. It's his brother, so I think you can just beat him up if it's not that good. Oh, so it still is. Yeah. Well, there's a whole thing about like I heard his brother was pushing him too hard and then he was like,

I don't like this. I don't want to die. It's an 80s snowmobile. I can only jump it so far. Yeah, it was a big part of that. Have you seen some of his crashes though? They're gnarly. Where he gets get-offs and I'm just like... Just gets bounced. Wow. Most days I get out of bed wrong and I can't walk. Although he looks way older than he is. Yeah, he's pretty young. But yeah, either way, it was just interesting. He posted the one video and people were like,

Yes, they were all about it. You know, he didn't even really accomplish much in the video, but people were really excited to have him back. That will be cool. Yeah, Turkey Reinhardt was always like... Is Turkey coming back this winter? You got plans for Turkey? I haven't heard. I love Turkey. Have you guys been coming around at all? You want to hear the best Turkey story of my life? Mm-hmm. The first night that Nikki ever met me, I was dressed as Turkey Reinhardt. Really? No shit? That's quality funny. No, like 100%. No, like legit, like...

I met Brett and we were beyond drunk. And you were in an old art camp. I'm pretty sure we don't even remember meeting each other. Oh yeah, I didn't recall meeting her. No. Something came up on my Facebook. I'm like, I recognize that girl. Follow. And then...

he immediately into the DMs. Like it wasn't even like a follow. I'm going to like a couple of pics. It was like a follow and like DM. Just like, Hey, head first, dude. Well, it seems like it worked out. Yeah. He actually told me first conversation bubble. Like, you know, when you like, we're like Facebook messenger. Now this was like almost 10 years ago. Okay. And so it was like first conversation bubble. And that was like the dating thing back then. Um,

He told me he was going to marry me. I was like, so when's the wedding? She's like, well, if you could kiss her, I'll keep you around. That's exactly what happened. Here we go, 10 years later. 10 years later, you're in. You guys need to spice things up in the bedroom. Can you dress up as turkey? There's actually some cowboy boots by the door. The best part about that all actually is that Nikki died.

didn't know who Brett Turcotte was. Didn't really care to know who Brett Turcotte was. She was just at a party with her friend and her friend had invited her to this, to the, it was actually a five on iron premiere. Yeah. Okay. So full circle, but I had, I had no idea what snowmobiling was. Yeah. And she just, wait, really? Yeah. No, I, where were you from? I,

I was from Fort McMurray. So I'm an oil field girl. Got it. So I like. Super far. So it was a lot less recreational activities per se as far as like sledding. Oh yeah. No I didn't do any of that. I just worked. That was my thing. But she had toys you know. She was like oh you snowmobile thing. I have a snowmobile. Like.

Can we go snowmobiling? So we did. And I just was a terrible boyfriend at the time and just leave her stuck in the back. And my buddies. I was going to say, Brett's doing flips out there and you're like, Hey, can you come and get me? Yeah. My friends are like getting her on stock. And yeah, it was, uh, yeah, that was quite the, quite the time of our lives. But so does being sick on a snowmobile pick up girls. Did that work for you? No, no, that wasn't it. I had to earn it. He had to earn it. Like he had to like,

actually chased me for like three or four months and I was like, okay, maybe I'll come to BC and see you. Cause at that point, I was like, I'm going filming. She's like, filming what? You know? And I'm like, she's like, I thought you just logged. And then you know what he said? Google me. Oh,

Really? I love that. Well, 10 years later, here we are. Cheers to that. Yeah, no kidding. And then you did Google him, right? No. I actually waited for the movie to come out that fall. It's pretty fun to like, I guess just a side note. Like if you Google us, there's a bunch of shit that comes up, but only shit we put out, right? Our videos, our podcasts, our Instagram. But then when you Google you...

It's just fun. There's a whole player's write-up. There's a Wikipedia write-up. X Games does a write-up on you. All kinds of stuff. I found one the other day that said that I was worth $8 million or something. Where did these come from? Wow.

We'll get, yeah, the net worth. It'll say, yeah, Ryan's net worth is 60 million. And then it's, yeah. And someone was like, he's got a college. People were like, is that real? And I'm like, guys, if I was worth, it was like 300 and some million. I was like, if I'm worth, if I was worth 320 million, you think I'd be in this shitty apartment? Like, no, no, I would be in Ibiza on a yacht. Yes, exactly. Or Monaco watching formula one. Yeah, there we go. Walking on my treadmill. You've thought about this. I've actually thought about this.

Back to like the push that Nikki had though. Nikki can chime in on this one from her side, you know, like a lot of people see me on the snowmobile, right? And a lot of people see Nikki sort of like on the sidelines. Like there was an Instagram reel made of her the other day.

From heydays of just like pacing up and down the run-in, you know? And it's like, I probably had asked her like, hey, can you go find such and such goggle? They're like, I lost my mouth guard. And she's like, these small things. But if it weren't for her in my corner and for her doing the things that she does to support people

I call it our career sometimes. It wouldn't be. Like you said, not that it's cheesy, but like power couple, but it's like people see Nikki and associate me and then people see me and they're like, where's Nikki? Definitely. It happens a lot. Yeah, I'd say so for sure. Yeah. I just...

I met him and I was full... I'm very numbers driven, so I was making really good money. I was like, hey, you should quit your job and go be a full-time snowmobiler because you're so passionate about it. It just enabled him to be like, hey, you go do your things. I'll look after all the back end and whatever you want to do. Even after he got hurt, he was saying, I don't know if I want to do...

those dark moments and i'm like get out of it no you're not high like no like absolutely not like you're definitely right about the highs being better too that's a really positive thing to say the highs will be better 100 right like and everyone has dark days it doesn't matter what industry you're in or what you're doing or where you're at everyone has those like i don't know how i'm going to become better or

be more, you know, like viral or like, how are we going to do this? And like the people who are in your corner at that time that are, you're just like, I'm going to quit.

i'm i'm done the people are like no you're not like one bad day doesn't when i say that i went all in on on 2018 it was like all in oh yeah like we had like sleep and breathe while you were practicing from the minute that i was hurt and laying in the hospital bed yeah until we got to aspen it was that's crazy and it's crazy too because like a lot of people don't know the backstory to it like

We were like to the point of like we had a thousand dollars in our account. We had skipped three mortgage payments, borrowed money from my dad to get there, to get to Aspen. And I like I was like Hudson was a one at that point. And I was like one and a half maybe. And I was like, hey, I love you. I support you.

But if this doesn't go the way that it needs to, this is the end of us. Like not just like your career. It's like we lose the house. I don't know how we're getting home because we don't have enough gas money. Like this is like where we're at at this point. If you don't come home with a gold medal.

word like that. Talk about pressure on, I mean, you know, yourself. I, I strive so hard on it though. Yeah. I was going to say good pressure. The minute that I relax and just put things on cruise control is when you see me kind of just like make a mistake or, you know, um, so that pressure, not that it was in my mind while I was riding, but just knowing that like how committed we were and how in deep we were, um,

You know, I say that we were all in like, yeah, we did spend every dollar we had to get there. And, you know, people have this image that you go to win X Games and you're winning millions. It's like, man, if you don't go win X Games from our perspective, you're from British Columbia, Canada. I had to buy my snowmobiles that year. I didn't have support for snowmobiles. I was getting free mountain sleds, but I had to buy my X Games sled. Two of them, actually, because I bought a mod and I bought a stocker.

So I go to X Games and I had hired a mechanic at a thousand bucks a month. And that was like, that was just barely covering his bills so that he could be away from home. You know, you know, so I hired him, hired a mechanic because up until then I was doing all of it myself. So I would wake up in the morning, I'd get in the snow cat that we had borrowed, go and push up my landing, make it really nice. Come in.

Like fill the sled up, warm the sled up. Give it a once over. Give it a once over. Ask Nikki to come down and watch me ride. Yeah, because no one was around. So I was there with an infant. Yeah. In the vehicle watching him train. And I would like put this little run together. And she's like, no, your feet weren't together. You look like shit. You're not going to win like that. I actually was like, you look like a frog. Put your feet together. I'm like, I hate candies.

I was the worst person ever. At this time, I'm feeling like, that was a new trick for me. I thought it felt pretty good. She's like, no, you look like shit. I'm like, I hate you so much. So then I would go and do it good. She's like, there you go. She's like, throw me horns. I'm like, okay, that's a good one. I think there's such a misconception with freestyle riders and supercross riders. And honestly, I think the snowmobile world in general, I grew up obsessed with...

all the guys in sled necks all the racers all the freestyle guys and i would have thought you guys were flying in landing flying in first class riding in a bus over there eating gourmet meals hopping on the sled riding flying back home to your mansions and wherever like i because you guys were larger than life are larger than life and it's crazy that this industry doesn't pay out and honestly like reward the work and how much effort you have to put in

to be able to make just a living doing it you know like you're saying you're like yeah i'm i'm doing world's first i'm pushing limits and i'm still logging you know just to pay to be able to do it and you're putting your body and your life and everything on the line well and

and I think that that's like a big thing too. Like when I met Brett, like he couldn't even afford to put gas in his truck. And I was like, okay, I literally am working 24 and fours working for Enbridge, making a bunch of money. And I've now fallen in love with this random turkey Reinhardt. And I was like, what do you want to do? Like it's endless. Like, where do you want to go? Like, and,

And I put everything that I had my whole life, my savings, my, you know, pension, everything that God invested for all those years working into it. And it's paid off, thankfully. Well, clearly you saw two things. You saw talent and drive. No, it was the passion. Like I've never met anybody ever that has loved something so much than he loves snowmobiling.

now it's kind of like gone gone in the other direction of like x games has been taken off of the table you know and quite a bit yeah and now you know nikki nikki and i kind of made this decision together and it's like everything's gotten so content-based and so like at everyone's fingertips you know and you know i started the clinics thing and and that's that's all been great and and with

With the passion that I have for snowmobiling and the support that I have in the industry, it's allowed me to be able to branch. But without Nikki's help and without her knowledge. No, I tell him all the ideas. Without her knowledge, because I'm just a dumb athlete guy. I like snowmobiles. You're much more than that. He's actually not that. Yeah. But I just like...

even with my phone i'm so bad at texting my friends back or like i'm posting a reel like every morning like i don't set a reminder in my phone it's like it's her she's like you post a reel yet today and i'm like no i haven't post a post do some stories it can be more difficult than you think it is it's actually it helps so much having that you know and i'm i'm waking up and i'm like oh did it did i make that parts order or like what do i need for the season and she's like hey you'd

haven't posted a reel in two days. Like you're, you're following starting to fall off. Yeah, I guess we, we didn't mention that right away, but you started your YouTube channel, which is really good. Just one of those things that it's like moving into the content world. But, uh, something that I think,

especially people snowmobiling but other people want to see yeah and what's your day-to-day look like yeah and i'm trying to keep it real on there i mean even this weekend i like that personally watching it i really enjoy how real it is and it's like i'm i'm pulling up so it's broken so it's fixed let's yeah it's that uh everything i love it yeah and i mean even this weekend we're making a uh a vlog based on this weekend and like i want to show people kind of

you know, our life. Yeah. As much as it is me, there's like so much more to it, you know, like there's Nikki driving the truck down here cause I was tired from hunting all week and kind of just like, I, you know, I, we spent so much time on the road this summer and, and, uh, you know, just, just the, the life, you know, I, and kind of the, the Turcotte brand. It's not me. Like I, I, Turcotte is a brand or is becoming a brand now. Like people are starting to associate the name with multiple people and, and,

uh, you know, our kids and, and everybody that's kind of around us, you know? So with the YouTube channel, I'm trying to, you know, trying to keep it well-rounded and keep it as real as I can. I'm trying not to manufacture things in there. And right. Well, cause some people that don't know about what you should do, or there's not, there's right or wrong thing to do here, but they might be like, cool, you're going to go make a freestyle at it.

But you're like, no. Including you is big. Including the kids is big. And that's what people are watching on YouTube. Well, and really we get a lot of our inspiration from you guys. I'm going to. Stop it. Oh, no. Oh, no.

All right. Sorry, guys. We since we're not in our studio, we don't the camera sometimes turn off. So we just had that. So we'll pick back up. Yeah. Right. When we started to get a little emotional. Yeah. No. He started to fluff you guys a bit. Yeah. Like, you know, just like but really inspirational wise. Like, I look at what you guys are doing and I was like, right.

You need to start fucking around more. Why are you doing cool shit like them? Like, what are we doing here? Like... It is fun sometimes inspiring, like... I'm trying to think. We had an enduro rider, Spencer Wilton, come over. He was killing it. And he was watching us and he was very inspired by us because he was like, I see all I was... I was just stuck on these riding vlogs. And then he's like...

I mean, this is just a random idea. I was like, maybe I should do something where I like he was like, I'm going to fill my tire with gummy worms. Just a random idea. Right. But I'm like, no, stuff like that. I mean, like if you do your race stuff and do what you do and then just do fun stuff. Yeah. I feel like Brett has a hard time having fun stuff sometimes. Like he's got his turkey Reinhardt, but like he

He's a pretty serious, pretty serious fella. Well, you guys see me at Hayes. No, it's like Jackson. Like I gotta be like, I gotta work, you know, like I've created or we've created this sort of like professional image for myself. And it's like, I can't,

If I was to go back and like reset it, I could like kind of have this other branch where it's just like I just mess around all the time and I can like try funky stuff. But also on the other side, I'm like trying to uphold my reputation. It's like the YouTube world's wild. And I mean, our kids watch some wacky stuff on there. She's like, why can't we do that? And I was like, do you want to do that? And, you know, and so...

Not to say there isn't stuff that's on the, on the list for this coming winter. That's going to be like a little bit different and maybe not so professional, but yeah, I think there is that room to have fun. And, um, you know, that's where Nikki comes in really strong and kind of, it kind of just like flies the flag for me is like,

at events or you know contests or where we're out in public and doing stuff like i'm so i'm pretty focused i'm not the most loose fella you want to say that well you're trying to stay alive yeah yeah there's a lot of like let's take heydays for example because it's fresh and it's in my mind like i have like a six drink cap like on saturday night before i gotta go do a kod flip on sunday

I'll have five or six drinks and like hang out and be hung over and not be too stiff, you know, but not to like throw anybody under the table, but Nikki will wake up and be like, ah, today feels like a good day. Like, can we have a Bud Light now? Well, you guys, we were in Jackson. Yeah. Oh yeah. You guys did three nights in Jackson. We did three nights in Jackson. You guys got the Nikki T experience. Yeah, like the,

Keep in mind, the whole time we were, like, we had you in our thoughts and prayers. Yeah. I put him to bed and I was like, okay. I know you got a big date. I know you, I support you, but I am not going down this road. Thanks for working this weekend, honey. I'm going to go party. Unfortunately, I am not going to bed at 830 tonight.

But I see why you are. So have fun. So I want to keep you from it. That part about it. I'm glad you're able to do that really without. I mean, there's such a thing. Everyone gets FOMO, but like you're really able to.

do that well yeah yeah because i get formal i'm like i don't think i can just go to bed tonight just because i got an early morning tomorrow well you're also not doing uh kod flips right so that does help but i mean anything you got to do i mean let's just say you got a like a big interview or i don't know you still seem to have that discipline for sure that'd be a lot better yeah he has discipline i do

Yeah. And that's why the power couple works. Yeah. Nikki's like, Nikki's so good with people. And, um, you know, that's what, that's been like a big influential part of my career is that like,

with that association is like people understand the job that I do, but they also understand that like, Nikki's kind of unofficially my manager, you know? I'd say, yeah, I'd say so. And she'll like, she makes the best deals after midnight. It's like, that's just how, that's just how some of the industry works, you know? Like anything, like we'll be like, I met, you know, one of the three owners of monster energy drinking red wine, had no idea who she was until the next morning. I was like, Oh, you're standing in front of everybody.

We're all at the round table for breakfast and the girl that Nikki was just previously partying with is standing in front and like saying like, you know, marketing and her thank yous. And Nikki's like, that person was pretty important. Oh, we talked three bottles of wine together last night. No, and that's just, I, that's who I am. I make friends with everybody. It doesn't matter who you are.

are we've been to some like crazy parties like we've seen oh machine gun kelly live we've been at the top of aspen we've you know we've seen underground if you haven't been underground in aspen colorado you have underground you have underground and aspen it is gnarly in there i may or may not yeah i may or may not have spent

of thousands of dollars on bottle service underground in Aspen. Damn, I think we need to go there. Oh yeah, it's a good time. We, I have always had that outlook too. Like a lot of our connections we make through, I guess, partying. Hanging. Yeah, just hanging. Well, because that's what

are the realest right like and that's I remember meeting you guys seven years ago and being like who the fuck are you just being an asshole if we aren't punks now we were definitely punks we were definitely punks then it was good someone needed to call us a punk I was laughing so hard and now I look back and I was like oh foot in mouth it was like

And you guys managed. So among all of that, right, of you trying to stay somewhat focused or more focused when you have to do big things and you covering everything else in the personal relations, you got three kids. So it's like that's four kids. Four kids. Four, yeah. Four. A lot to keep up with. Fifteen, thirteen, eleven, and six. Yeah. All spread out. But it's good. It's great. We actually just were trying to have another one.

And it just hasn't yet to make it number five, but it just hasn't worked. And so we're just back on the party train. I saw that you guys have a track in your backyard. Is that right for the kids and for you? Well, I mean, yeah, for sure. Hudson is our youngest one. She's six and she's got an electric gas gas 50. So, you know, we in the spring,

Once the snowmobiling kind of winds down, we do kind of shift our focus into moto. And she expressed some interest in that. And just the passion that I have for motorsports and for anything that is gnarly is...

I'm like, okay, you want to do it? I'm going to just drop everything that I'm doing right now and give you that opportunity. Our children legitimately have $200,000 worth of mountain bikes and dirt bikes and snowmobiles. It's how it should be. It's like a dream. Yeah. It's just stuff, right? It's just things in the garage. Yeah. But I'm in that place right now where. Is it true the neighbors maybe don't like. Well, they don't like the gas bikes, man, but my lawnmower is louder than my one. Yeah. Okay. So.

Like when I'm planking rocks with the lawnmower is way loud. So what really, I'll tell you what really happened was we had an absolute rager. Okay. And we were in the pool with 40 people till 3 a.m.

I'm glad we're in Canada because we've got to come to these parties. There's people jumping off of our roof. You guys renovated the backyard into just the most mint hangout spot. It's like the Turcotte Resort back there. So I wear many hats. So I'm an equipment operator, interior designer, manager, business accountant, bookkeeping, media. I literally just wear all the hats. And so

So we bought the house and I was like, this pool is shit. Excuse my language. But I was like, no, you can swear here. I want it. It's the internet. I want it like this. And so we just, wow. Fred helped.

I put some time in. Actually, at the beginning of the spring, we walked the mini excavator over to the pool that had about two feet of ice built up into it. And I just started punching the ice with the excavator bucket because she was so eager to get the ice out of the pool to get the pool fired up so that we could start building on the yard. Yeah. Also, fast forward things till July. We got a motocross track in the backyard. The pool's firing up. A lot happened. People jumping off of our roof into the pool.

We had a house-roaring party, and it was Mexican-themed. And you got there, and I had bought, like, 50-milliliter Patron bottles. Yeah, that was the rite of passage. So that was the rite of passage. You either did a shot of Fireball with a, like, fake mustache on. So you had, I like, super-glued, like, fake mustaches to people's faces. Super-glued? Or, like, taped or whatever. Nice call on the bluff. Um...

So then you had to put on a mustache and drink the fireball or you did the Patron shot and then put a Mexican hat on and you had to wear the Mexican hat all night. So we had people like our pool was actually dyed a different color because the Mexican hat. Because all that sombrero was like looped out into it. Like,

Yeah, it was great. But that was the reason why bylaw. Yeah. To go back to the bylaw thing. So we're actually away at a friend's place. We're surfing on the boat and Nikki's like gets this doorbell ringer notification. And we can see there's like a weird stripe on a truck and there's a canopy and a light on top. And she's like, what the heck? Like, did the dogs get out? Is there a bear in the yard? And nobody's home. And so then we're like trying to talk through the doorbell to this, this lady. And we could see that she's in uniform. Like, oh, well.

We get home and we get this notice, right? There's multiple options on the list. It's like, you know, noise complaint, such and such, like garbage left out, da, da, da. And it was like other. And it just said dirt bike noise. You know? Dirt bike noise. And so then for like a week, we are calling the bylaw, calling, calling, calling, nothing. Finally, someone answers and nothing.

She shows up. I was at work and... So wait, who dropped off the note? Was it the police? Yeah, it was like bylaw. Just bylaw. Wait, what's bylaw? I don't know what bylaw is. It's like a security, like a mall security. So they deal with like dog shitting in... Like if you have a dog and it's shitting in your neighbor's yard, they can call the bylaw. So she didn't call 911 because 911 told her to fuck off. Probably. So she called bylaw. Okay. And then they came over and... Left a notice on our door. And so then...

The girl shows up and I'm home. Brett's away. And she goes, yeah, like we got a call for dirt bike noise. I said, well, yeah, we got a dirt bike truck. She's like, yeah, it's fucking sick. The bottle officer was like, man, this is sick. Like your kids ride here. Like can you show me videos? So me and her bro down for like half hour. I like bring out the electric bike, do a fucking lap. And she's like,

Oh, this is cool. Yeah. Your neighbors can fuck right off. I'm sure your neighbor was just upset. They didn't get invited to the party, but we invited, there was an open invite on Facebook for our like commute. Like, you know how like neighborhood watch and I post, I said, Hey, we're not 13. Yeah. I literally said, we are doing this. Yeah. I, I,

And I put it on Facebook because I, hey, it's going to be loud. It's going to be noisy. We're having a pool party. There's tequila and lots of tequila involved. Like I still have half of a two six.

a Patron Silver in the freezer of our trailer just waiting. But it was like a full pit bike national. There was two pit bikes and the rest was Surons, but there was like a dozen Surons there and it was like... Okay, so start about your Suron races. So we started the Suron races. I don't know. I was going to kind of ask you about that because we were just at the dealership checking all the Surons and I was like,

We need them. How do you fly them home? I don't know, but we need them. Okay. So we started the first ever Suron race. Sort of like in Western Canada. In Western Canada at our house. So I built this track for Hudson in the backyard. For him. Then all of a sudden, like my buddy's like, ah, can we bring the Surons over there? I'm like, yeah, yeah. Okay. So then we like started this little group chat thing going and all of a sudden now there's a dozen Suron dudes that want to come to our place on a Thursday night. Right. Yeah. And I'm like,

And a PA system with the money. Not just ride. I text Nikki. I'm like, hey, babe, you want to go to Costco and grab one of those PA system speakers with the money? Gotta have the PA. We're like stringing extension cords into the backyard and firing up the Traeger and doing burgers and dogs. And like we created this whole like scene. And so then each week, pretty much all summer long, we had this like Suron like summer night series in our backyard. And like people just. Dude, you're building like the field of dreams in your backyard for Surons. Okay, but now they're doing

Now there's like a full national series. There's a national series. They just did one in Ontario. Like it's literally like nationwide now. Have you been to any that weren't? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I went to one and actually the first one. Yeah. The, the first one was, um, in June or July in Canada, Kamloops. And, uh,

Yeah, it was huge. There was like 20-something entries or something. It was like Saturday night after an amateur national. There was a mom moto. I don't want to talk about that. There was like a full suron. Like full mom moto to the point of I may or may not have... Grabbed the wrong break? Drank in too much alcohol.

Before said moto. Adult beverages before said moto. Uh-huh. And came into a corner and forgot which was the front and which was the back. Is it reversed from like a bicycle or... Dude, that throws me off not having a foot break. So the same as moto. Yeah. So...

I just like full like dirt slammed. Dirt slam. Two laps in a row actually and then comes in and she like Two laps in a row. Okay. Comes in like comes in. No come check the brakes while you're under the bus. Comes in like slams the bike on the ground and she's like the front end's loose and I was like

I'm like, I just actually won on that bike. And it felt great. Like the suspension was dialed. It feels good. Typical racer, you know. So then the video comes out, like there's actually like video footage of it. And I was like, I had the Insta360 so I could see exactly what was happening. See me grabbing front brake. And I was like.

Didn't happen. It's a mirrored image. That's pretty cool. So they have one for kids too? Yeah, there was a kids race and like Ezra raced it. Yeah, the surround thing is cool. The electric thing is starting to make waves. Yeah, make waves and make less neighbors mad. Yeah. Yeah, and I got a Stark on order. I'm waiting...

Oh, really? I won't see it until the end of next summer. Those look very awesome. What's a Stark? Kind of a new-day model. Full-size model. So we had an Alta. Oh, you did? Okay. We had an Alta, yeah. Yeah, we bought one for me, and I customized the seat and did all the graphics. Those things are wicked. They're kind of scary. No. I haven't spent a lot of time on one, but they're kind of scary. Hi, David. Hi, David. David.

There's a latte there for you. There's a latte. An athlete...

um yeah i agree though though with you on the scary side is like because it's electric you don't respect the sound and power that it has right i agree for sure i just remember it i mean one time cj got on an alta first time ever and he was like yeah it's cool like unlimited torque it's kind of crazy yeah next thing you know he like hit looped out there's like there was like an airplane strip so they just dumped off so it's like just think of hitting a big ditch and i'm not

He could have jumped over two buses. He just looked over and he just went zing! And he's like flying in the air and he goes, fuck those electric bikes. Yeah.

I like it like just because I really hate blowing a clutch or like. Missing a shift. Missing a shift. Like the motor doesn't get hot. Yeah. And so I like put Hudson on the front. I mean, her will go like do a moto and it'll be like sick. I don't have to worry about like her leg getting burnt on the exhaust or, you know. Well, there's a lot of pluses. There's a lot of pluses. And also I don't ride a dirt bike that well. So it makes me feel really.

cool you know like yeah that's what I liked about it for sure well that was badass thank you for coming on thank you for having me thank you so much it wouldn't have been a podcast I was talking on the way down and she's like man like last night I had this dream like you talked about me in your podcast like I don't know what you said but you talked about me I'm like

you know you're going to be on it right yeah she's like no no no I was like well no babe like that's us like yeah originally was hoping for that so we love you guys like we love you too like I'm excited for tonight dude I don't have any events tomorrow say you're on vacation this is the first time I think that

You guys have actually been able to like... May or may not keep my shirt on. We're going to get Jay and Blaine on here. I'm excited to see the Jay and Blaine show. Also, I love Jay Meneberry. Well, that makes two of us. He is like, I remember, okay, best memory of Jay is...

Probably about nine years ago, we were at a 509 heli shoot in Sycamuse and we were in the back of somebody's RV that they were pulling with a truck and we were having a part, a dance party in the RV as they were driving it down the road. Amazing. And that's how we like went from location to location and it was... We got to track down an RV for tonight. Yeah, we're going from the windows to the wall. Yeah.

Your YouTube channel, Brett Turcotte. Yeah. Brett Turcotte, uh, Instagram Turcotte 16 and, uh, make sure you guys go and follow Nikki as well. She kind of supports the whole thing. And, uh, yeah. Send me a DM if you want to find out more info. Got it. Great. Thank you. Bye. Bye.

Perfect. All right, we had a little bit of a roster swap here. We got Jay and Blaine. Oh, wait, we got to cut in the clip of what we just did between the two. We broke out the bongzilla. Yep, and we, not to get it twisted as to what you might think it would be, but we prepped up. That's all it was, was just a little podcast prep. Just a little podcast fluid. Yep, so we have Jay Menaberry and Blaine Matthews. What are your numbers again?

My phone number? No. 411. 411. 230. I just feel like that's important to know. Yeah. Yeah. In the racing. That's our race numbers and our Instagram handles. Yeah. Why buddy go to the dentist? What time was the buddy's appointment at the dentist? What time was buddy's appointment at the dentist? 230. 230. I was really hoping it'd be a good one. That was an e-slapper. That's a dad joke. Dad joke.

So you guys recently just launched the Jay and Blaine show. Or is it Blaine and Jay? Jay and Blaine. You're in the process of launching it. Yeah, it's kind of in the... Well, if you look at the Blaine and Jay, if you abbreviate it, it's the BJ show. Yeah.

I don't know why no one told me this. So we kept it kind of PG. By going with Jay and Blaine? Yeah. Because if you Google BJ show, what do you think you're going to get? You're not going to get a picture of us. And you don't want to get your faces in with all the other ones. Yeah, bad vibe. Get out. That's smart. So you guys grew. When did you meet?

racing about 10 racing we were racing each other and semi-pro yeah we were like in hill climbs this guy's beating me and he's like fuck this guy he's beating me and the cool thing then was like jay was riding a polaris when i started racing against him i was a few years older than him but like my first year racing semi-pro i was having a pretty good season and then this guy came along and was like man who is this guy he's like gave you a run for your life like it was now it's a battle and we duked it out and uh

And then shortly after, right after the year after, you went back to Ski-Doo. Yeah. It was a short stint. Very short. But, like, that created the competitiveness. It was like, oh, this off-brand guy is duking it out with me, so I have to try to beat him. He was thinking the same. And then the next year, we're teammates, essentially. That's where we created a bond. The true bond. Yeah. And then the friendship beyond the racing and the sleds and all that. Right. Because, I mean, how far away do you live from each other? Well,

about an hour and a half if you're on the highway but I mean we're just like two peas in a pod we're goofy as shit well that's why I thought you were a one off character and

And then you brought Blaine along one time and I was like, I didn't think you could bring anyone crazier than you with. No, he is crazier than me. Like, if you like me, you're going to like him. Yeah. Even more. We get into some good stuff. Yeah. I have fun. He lives a good life. I live a pretty crazy life. I mean, yeah, he lives a good, he drives a Ford Ranger. That's funny.

You still have that? Oh, fuck yeah. Of course. Dude, it's mint. I've seen Jay somewhere this summer. Oh, is it a golf tournament? Kinda. Like this cool ass golf tournament they do. And they assume like, I was busy working, couldn't be there.

But I whip in that afternoon, just go have some beers with everybody at the golf tournament. And I see this Ford Ranger. And I'm like, that is Jay's Ford Ranger. Like, I was thinking he was going to drive an ice truck. No. No. The Ford Ranger. The Ranger goes everywhere. It takes me everywhere. And you know what? I went back home through the dirt roads on that thing. You couldn't do that on the F-350. I mean, you could, but it...

But you'd rather do it with a ranger. Fuck yeah. Legendary status, 24-7. You guys have some rangers still? We do. Just one. Just one. Only one survived? Yeah, we're in the process of turning it into a dually right now. Like the Grindhardt guys. Yes. Except for they did six wheel. They have a six. That one's next level. Have you seen that in person yet? No. Oh my God. It's a work of art.

As all Rangers are. Yeah. It's going to be nice. It's good because we have the gooseneck attachment in the box. So it will be good to have a little bit more road coverage. Looks professional. Yeah, exactly. We're going to start doing hot shot trucking.

Did we add any leaf springs? No, we didn't add anything to the suspension. Don't forget your Department of Transportation number. Yeah. They'll be calling. They're going to be looking. Not for hire. Yeah. So what do you guys have planned for once the snow starts to fly? I guess together or apart, but together. Well, virtually everything now is kind of together. Like we're one. We really have been for a couple of years now. Yeah.

Well, the friendship started, like it started the race and we've got pictures, you know, 2014, 2015 that we're hanging out the hill. We're scoping out lines, you know, the photographer companies took. And we look back now and like, we didn't realize what we had then. Mm-hmm.

And then this thing, the friendship really hit. We're riding together every day. We're planning trips together. We're doing stuff in the off season. And that's what it really means. Like, it's not the every day on the snow. You know, it's like the friends, all of us together, camaraderie. And that's what really sparked it. And then last season, we,

things really like this idea like because it's kind of been a show you know like when we're together it's like there's gonna be something to it is laugh at or like we're i don't know we're not gonna float our boats but it's a good time like yeah and this i mean goes way back to when we first started to to meeting everyone but meeting everyone on the 509 team all the athletes and we go

All of us said the same thing. We're like, damn, they're all so fun. I would have never known because I wouldn't have, you know, watching the films would have never known what you did in your personal life, what your humor was like. Nothing. I think that's really cool. I'm glad that 509 is starting to do that with now that they're doing the podcast and the YouTube series, like every rider is getting a lot more of a spotlight and where you get to see them develop. Because I remember my first year coming out here for the premiere and

I was terrified because I'm like, what am I going to talk to these riders about? I can't talk to them about my snowmobiling stories. They're going to be like, oh, sick buddy, you did a little wheelie and turned out, you know, like, and then we ended up having one of the best times.

in Spokane. There's something to be said about like don't talk about your snowmobiling stories with professional snowmobilers or even I mean we get that some dudes are like yo you guys love sleds I love sleds too. Should we talk about them for the next half hour in the bar? Not necessarily. It always creates that common bond. Now you're talking about the most random thing in the world and now you become friends over it and that's like what him and I I think have really brought to a lot of people like

You know, the professional athlete, the professional this and that, what are the title? Like, we love that. We enjoy that. We have passion for it. You know, we like to push our limits, whether it be racing in the backcountry. You know, obviously a guy like Brett really pushes the industry in the backcountry. I mean, he's kind of like the top tier, right? Yeah.

And we look up to a lot of that stuff. But this one thing that we really believe in too, is like the relativeness that everybody's still human. You know, like we do this because we have a passion because of not one little thing, not one jump we hit, not one line we pulled because of the people that are involved in industry.

And that's what set us apart a little bit in this idea. So to your, to your point, that's kind of what we want to show is that we do the athlete stuff, just like Brett. He's got a serious side. He's business. He's,

You know, he was a racer. He's in competition. So are we. We're competitive. We're, you know, we're racing for the top spot in a professional series. But we're also a couple of guys that like to drink beer. And I feel like we balance it out. We try to balance it very well. Yeah.

I think a lot of people can appreciate that. And that's what we want to show because of you guys. Like you guys show that it's not all serious. Like you don't have to be like this corporate dummy. And you can get somewhere with that too. Yeah. Which is fun. And it's kind of a weight off my shoulders too because I look back on my career, like you said, going to those premieres and I thought I had to be like this...

Yeah. This thing that I was so uncomfortable with. And now I'm like, fuck it. I'm going to be myself because. Right. Or early on. I mean, and we would still get this like right when we first met you. It's like, well, what was he like in person? Yeah. And then I would confess.

kind of be, I mean, all good things, but I was just like a normal dude. No, I was like a normal dude, but a lot different than you think. A lot funnier and cooler and more fun and more out there than you'd think. Yeah, which you just wouldn't guess. Right. A normal dude just way better at snowmobiling than us. Right, which is the one thing that I can say that I have. Like, I'm kind of a one-trick pony. I'm not good at anything else. So...

If I can be a good snowmobiler and then also be like a good friend or a good human, I want to show that. If we're in the business to like do what we do and entertain, then might as well like be real with it. Exactly. Fuck it. And you guys have really... I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, I've never... It's funny. I've never really been like a YouTube watcher or like...

really related to anybody, but when I first met you guys, honestly, I didn't really know who you were. I knew you had a YouTube channel and you did what you did, but then I started actually watching your stuff and like, I look forward to every episode because... Really? Yeah, honestly, honestly, like, it's inspiring. It's like, what are we going to do next? And it's funny, you guys, your banter between all of you and...

the shenanigans and like, it's like, I want to be there. Cause it would be so fun. You guys like through the curve ball, the industry of whatever it may be, you know, like the pat, the people's passion, the curve ball come from like you guys. Cause honestly,

if you look at a professional athlete standpoint okay they're staying you know professional and like you said you guys meet someone back in the day oh gosh how do i handle this guy i talk to him when they're they are real people yeah oh yeah you know there's no difference between any of us we like to have fun we have a passion for things we enjoy but like you guys really opened up that doors for like say big corporates this and that to understand the importance of

People are human and they like to have a good time. They like their surroundings. They're not just like a robot. And not only that, but that people like to see you guys be human. Yeah. You know, like, or, and us, they like to see people be human. And I feel like that's why I love this. And everything. Yeah. Like we get to elaborate and, and,

be ourselves and just chat, which is really fun. And yeah, it's been fun seeing that out of you guys. Also fun to see. I mean, like we roll up and

You're like, yeah, I just got done with a handful of rodeos. You were doing that. I just got done. I was out bear hunting. I was out moose elk hunting, all that stuff. Yeah, we have lifestyles. You guys are definitely mountain men. Oh, for sure. I love the mountains. Him more so than I. Well, it was cool to hear that you were elk hunting too. Yeah, that's a whole other aspect of our personal lives.

He's fluent in hunting and... Wrangling. Wrangling, anything. Survival. I kind of live like a pretty wild west lifestyle. Where I pine to Wyoming, it's pretty...

It's not remote, but it's still old school mentality there. Wild West, for sure. Yeah, I mean, everybody has rules. We have rules. But at the same time, it's pretty lax. What do you guys think about that? Those are the unwritten rules that everyone knows. What do you guys think about so many people moving west and the mountains being taken over by people that maybe didn't grow up there?

Honestly. Double-edged sword. It is. It is. Because you can't blame them. Yeah, it's amazing. I want to be there. Right. But we're there because we love it and we know why people are coming. But at the same time, it's like, man, another...

another one another one but at the same time like i sit back and look at this i mean i've spent my last 10-15 years you know deep in the back country whether it be snowmobiling or in the summer because like between pack trips and hunting trips i mean that's like what i did for a living was be in the back country um mostly hunting and okay and summer pack trips but uh

They still, people are still unwilling, like the people that are moving out and they're settling in because, God, I'm getting away from whatever they're getting away from or they just want something new. They still don't get what's out there. Yeah. Like there's still remoteness within the states here, especially in Wyoming. Right. Yeah. And it's, I'm like, that's okay because they'll never find it. You know, it's a pretty daring thing really like to go back in somewhere deep and,

And it's right there, but they don't know that. They're there, but they're not really there. So it's like, yeah, yeah. I was going to say, especially, I don't know what I mean when I really say people like that, because they're moving from all over. But like, you're right. They're not cluttering up the mountain by any means. No. They're just enjoying the views. Exactly. And they're there and they...

They live there, they build a house, buy a house, whatever. And that's good because that's a whole other conversation. They shop in the stores. They eat at the lunch at the place. At the place and stuff. They might venture into the mountains a little bit. We don't have those.

But we still have our own sanctuaries, essentially. So it's okay. Like I said, I can't blame them because I would do the same thing. So it's all good. So this coming winter, will your next 509 episode, was it already you two last year? Yeah, the last two years now. I like to think it would be, but...

Yeah, that's, you know, last year we filmed our episode together. And, I mean, it was just our natural selves. It was, like, kind of effortless. Yeah, it's like a day of writing. And that's what made it fun and unique is, like, even, like, you look at David McKinney's side. Like, some of these guys, like, they go out there and they're working, they're grinding their butts off, you know, and we go with them.

And if they just have their camera on, they're going to get something cool. Yeah. Whether it be something in our bar or just something absolutely stupid. The apple juice, for instance. If you guys remember that. I don't remember the apple juice. It's just, I'll bring it up because it's pretty great. Like David McKinney's walking around. It's our first day before we're filming.

And, you know, we do the backcountry thing, but we also have the hill climb stuff. So we have a lot of snowmobiles between mostly at Jay's house. All my sleds end up there. We do everything together. So it looks like a Skidoo dealership. Yeah. And we're trying to gas sleds up because we forgot to go gas them up. But luckily, between like the 15 sleds around there, we just start siphoning fuel from all the sleds to put in our sleds that they were going to ride.

It's like 9 o'clock in the morning. It's frosty, and Jay's rolling around with a Modela as David's filming for our episode.

And the best part is, right, he cuts it to apple juice. Apple juice. Cheers. And it's still frosty. It's just like that's the stuff that people relate to. Yeah, exactly. And that's us. We're not a fake thing. And that's what we want to be. Yeah. I mean, maybe it bites us in the ass at the end of the race day because we're not like Keith Curtis where we're just robot. That man's a machine. He's a machine. And you've got to respect him. Yes, absolutely. But him and I talk all the time about...

And we're real about it. We're just like, man, we could do that, but we'd miss out on so much of this. And I think for life is too short to just be... Because it's not like you're going out and you're sucking ass. Right. You're going out and it's not good. Because then you'd be like, we got to reevaluate. Right. If we can balance winning and...

Being competitive, but also having fun. Enjoying that. That's what I would like to die with. Instead of just, oh yeah, I won everything, but...

I don't have any friends. And there's a, not saying Keith doesn't, but like his life is different than ours. It's super professional and he's super disciplined. Probably the most disciplined guys out there. I mean, the dude's gnarly and I respect that so much. I'm, I'm a good friend of Keith. So is Jay. You know, we have, we outside of the racing, we ride with those guys. We hang out with them. But, uh,

You know, and like we were still learning, we're in a curve of like, you know, how far can we take it as far as enjoying our passion, you know, within the limits of, all right, we, we know we are essentially a contracted writers in the racing side of these things to be as successful as possible. And if we're out there doing silly stuff, well, that doesn't look good for us. You know, and we're not trying to take it down that Avenue, you know, we're, we want to keep it professional and do the best we can, but,

So it's a learning curve continuously of like, all right, well, we need to tone it back and we need to spend more focus on, you know, being mentally and physically prepared, you know? And so I think we do a pretty good job with that. You know, guys may think we're just reckless and out of control. We're really not, you know, we do put a lot of effort and training and time. I mean, actually insane amounts, you know, but yeah,

we also express our passion. Blow off some steam. Yeah, exactly. I think, uh, maybe we can relate to that in a way where people think every week we just like, just get real drunk and go, what should we do? And then there's so much more thought and planning and, uh,

strategy that goes into it yeah beyond that it is it's interesting to think that we're almost slightly opposite of that so it's like if you guys watch majority of the videos that you guys are a part of you're gonna be like wow very uh stand-up um focused whatever you know just no shenanigans yeah up until now and then they look at us and they're like yeah we highlight yeah they're like damn they

And how do they get any work done? You know? And so that's what we're trying to do is bring both of those worlds and just roll with both. Exactly. From your perspective. I think if there was, if we weren't already Midwest and that's kind of our thing, but the mountains is a,

great place to capture like the lifestyle of being a guy who's interested in power sports. Like there's not a better place in the world for dirt bikes in the summer, snowmobiles in the winter, hunting, fishing, scenery, signer. Yeah. Side-by-sides is everything.

So it's really cool. I'm excited to see what you guys do. Dude, I mean, I don't know why. I'll just never forget it. But I mean, we've talked about getting a place in two places. That's it. Florida and Montana. Somewhere in the West. Yeah, I remember that conversation. And then, yeah, we talked about it. And then you were like, well, like, I don't have per se the capital to just either A, build a building or buy land and build a building or whatever. And then you're like, well...

Would you guys ever? And it was just a random question. And I was like, to be honest, yes. I was like, what if we... I mean, among as many people that could own a shop in the mecca of, you know, round Alpine. Yeah, like a compound. Then my mind started just going crazy. Because that'd be unreal. It would be. And we... It would just... Yeah, I mean...

We'd have all our sleds there. We'd have all the best tools. And then a couch. That's all you need. One or two. There's no one for a couch. You can do whatever you want. And a good fridge. And a grill. That's it. That was the fun thought about that for me. It was like, wow, that's literally all we would need to have a good time for 20 years and then some. Until the next chapter. Because I feel like we're all living...

Not day by day, but we're not stuck to our 20-year plan or 15th and whatever. Things are very...

What's the word? Viable? No, not viable. Volatile. Volatile. So I knew that was the word. I don't really know what it means. Yeah. Do you agree? Like, yeah, definitely. I think you got to kind of roll with the punch. To be a little softer. It's like, I know we're all going to be lifelong friends, but I don't know what it looks like. Right. Yeah.

Well, it's just like I was talking with Brett. I believe that you guys are pioneering a new side of this industry and taking it from being the professional athlete side and then showcasing the personal side of the professional athlete. And I think that will draw a lot more people to sport. It'll make it seem... But...

for you guys to almost kind of write the rule book on it is a big undertaking, you know, to transfer in and do things like that. We always look, well, we always, I look forward to exactly that happening because the bigger snowmobile snowmobiling gets on like a, uh,

mainstream scale, the more we get to do it. Exactly. We've cut down a little bit as far as like, I mean, Ken doesn't ride sleds as hard. CJ doesn't ride at all. So it's like, what? Ride in the mountains, that is. And it's like Ryan, it's Ryan and I's favorite thing to do. Yeah. If I could do it every weekend, I would. I believe that. All we can do to do it, which in the long grand scheme of things is the bigger it gets,

The more people will watch it and the more reason we'll have to go and do it. More reason you have to do it. Yeah. For sure. Which sounds like kind of crazy. Well, also, yeah. People are like, just go, just go. Yeah. But it's also part of our, you have to do a job. Exactly. And, and part of our job is satisfying a large group of people, people that have never even seen the mountains, stuff like that. Maybe you don't love snowmobiling. So, and snowmobiling is a very niche area.

But the people that are in it are passionate. Yeah, there's no more passionate group of people. You cannot tear them from that. Yeah.

And this is the, like this whole kickoff to winter thing, you know, say we have the group of athletes, the C boys are here and you know, the way you guys put that earlier was awesome. But, uh, the athletes, the, the group of five or nine people here, the community, five or nine community, you know, it's this big gathering kickoff to winter. So the outside world kind of looks this like, Oh, that just the athletes are there and go meet them. But,

The way this deal set up is here, it's kind of a meet and greet, hang out, interact. Everyone just being themselves. Yeah. But what people don't realize is like, we're all here for the weekend having a good time and we're going out and being ourselves. We're essentially here for the same reason that anybody else. Exactly. Yeah. Because we love some of it. Not because we're obligated. Not because we're getting paid. We're not getting paid. Maybe you guys are getting paid. I was like, you guys are getting paid? You guys are getting paid.

No, it was like an open, like, you guys can come if you want. And then we're like, I'm trying to. Yeah. That's the cool thing. And I think over the next few years, our goal is to push people, or not really push, but open the eyes that realize all of us are humans and we love this sport. We share the same passion. No matter how good you are, that's the thing. That's what it's about. When we first rode together, you guys were...

not you know like yeah the first it depends on your perspective yeah like you weren't our level but you're also not like uh incompetent incompetent yes we looked like we'd seen a snowmobile but you had good attitudes and you were you were stoked on it you made snow we don't give a shit we're not going to be like oh we're not going to ride with you because of that and

Any day on the mountain is a good day for us, whether we're up in the shit where only we can get to or whether we're down in a good spot where everyone can have it. Hanging out with you little peasants. No, not even. I can't make it up the hill. Not even because I love to watch the progression of you guys. It pushes. That's like what we love is like another thing of the industry, like, oh, well, good guys only rise. Good guys. Totally false. Screw that. Some of our favorite days are riding with guys that are learning and trying to progress. Yeah.

you know and what helps them progress further is pushing them yeah yeah and that's why i love riding with you guys because it's great we get to go out and i get to see the way that you would attack something go at it we did that with brett uh we did jackson training ground oh yeah and i learned more that day than i have in a long time so i saw that yeah video that was good time brett's putting these guys through the motions and i can see in the video that they're

Yeah. And that's just the video. Through the mistakes. There's probably so much behind the scenes that Mike's probably like, what the fuck? I mean, I was like this. Like this is really difficult. And then it was like...

we had a handful of people that are like, Oh, you guys are going to Jackson. Why aren't you racing it? Cause I wouldn't make it past the first. There's a few other, you know, let's just say like snowmobilers in the industry. Um, they got the same questions I'm sure. Um, and then they were like, well, I'm not ready. And I'm just like, I don't even know how to put into words why I'm not doing it. But yeah, I'd go throw my sled at the mountain. It's going to end up at the bottom of it. And then I think the, the cool thing about that is like, okay,

okay. So people really, really covet it or covet like, I don't know. It's just like X games. It's like hearing the story that Brett told about what it took to get there. Um, some people might go, why? Yeah. Why? Why so much effort? Um,

but it's just it's coveted and then obviously the passion huge yeah oh you guys should raise but there was well so there's a to be honest not in the near near future but there is a um the qualifying race that's closest to us is in michigan the master circuit is that yeah it'd be the master yeah i think that'd be a lot of fun to to either just just get my feet wet to be honest yeah

not even try to qualify for that. I think you would enjoy it. Like, I'm not trying to push you to do something because we do it and we think it'd be good for whatever. Genuinely, from a friend to a friend, you would enjoy it. That's why we do it. So damn fun.

Everyone shows up because they love it. It's not some facade. We just become obsessed over it. When we started racing, we were racing smaller CC sleds that are usually stock, maybe improved. Now we're strapping it on factory mods and you just can't get it on. You guys' sleds are insane. Factory mod strap-on. Best strap-on you'll ever see. How much horsepower? We get that all the time. People are like, what's horsepower? No.

You know, really, it's not that much. It's the tunability and how well they work. Yeah, the efficiency of everything. It used to be we used to build extremely high, like when we were building our own mods, high boost, ton of power, hard work.

Hard to ride. Unride. Now, like the actual power, they're probably down, but they just work so perfect. And then you can ride them too. And that's why they're faster. You know, as horsepower wise, they're probably not up to what we used to build 10 years ago. They're not even playing close. Yeah. But the sled's like three times the sled. And it feels probably much more than three times. It feels probably like more power because you can ride it. It's manageable. Yeah. They're just perfect. And overall factory mods are just insane. Yeah.

All right. Crack them, bitches. And then we better get to it. The reason that we came here this weekend. There's a big obstacle course and there's a dunk tank. And I don't know who you guys are against, but are you guys against each other? We haven't heard any of those details. Do you guys know some rules that we don't know? No. I just know there's an obstacle course and I would love for you guys to be against each other because they'd be pretty entertaining. Because the loser goes in the dunk tank. Oh, fuck that. But it's a dunk tank.

a dunk tank of battery acid so it's kind of scary oh sick Jeffrey Dahmer style whoa it's trending I just started watching that show on Netflix have you where are you at just a couple yeah it's intense yeah there's some messed up people on there anyway none of us are like that we're like

We're all, again, just we're normal people with some social media influence and you guys are normal people that are really fucking good at snowmobiling. Yeah. Cheers to that. Cheers to that. We love you all. Thank you guys for taking the time. Thank you. Appreciate it. We're in a foreign environment here, but go ahead and subscribe and check us out on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube. Thanks, guys. Yes. Big thanks to Jay and Blaine and especially Brett and Nikki for coming on. Yeah. We love you guys and we'll have you out to Minnesota soon.

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