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Publish Date: 2022/8/30
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Well, Ryan just got done dialing the cameras in, and that means it's time for another Life Wide Open podcast. Put the headphones on. If you're listening to this, it is a Tuesday. That means it is the day the merch shop ends, a.k.a. the day the giveaway ends. You can win a CRF-110 as well as a CRF-250RX. It's a pretty sweet deal. All you got to do is grab some merch.

and also pretty sweet merch, if I may say so myself. Yeah, you did a good job. You're just going fast. Thank you. Yeah, dude, I mean, it's cool getting, like, I get nice things said about every merch shop, but, like, this one, there seemed to be more. People were effing with it. People were effing with it. So, uh...

I don't know. Maybe, CJ, you haven't seen this. What'd you do last night? I went to Shauna and G-Reg's housewarming party. I thought it was going to be a nice housewarming party, which it was a lot of fun, but I'm feeling it today. Look at how drunk CJ looks in this. It's Connor Wilson's story. What? That's funny.

Oh my God. Let me see it. So that was actually another part. Like I, I wanted to go and I was like, well, I have a feeling that I have a feeling they're going to kind of let loose. And then I saw, I didn't see that particular story, but I saw something else. I'm like, CJ looks really drunk. Like to the point where I probably shouldn't go. Otherwise I'll end up looking like that. What has happened to you, Mike, where you are now avoiding places. Oh, whoa. They're drinking there. Talk about a complete one 80. I wasn't like, that's what I'm saying. It looked fun, but I was like,

I would end up looking like that if I came over. Yeah, Tint was there. I don't really remember him being there. I don't know what he was doing, but he was there, I guess. Supposedly, we brought him home, too. You were that hammered? Yeah. Wow. Good for you, dude. That was a blast. Were you taking shots with G-Reg or what? I don't know what we were doing, but I'm definitely feeling it.

So Alex had one of her friends out and she's newly single and I was trying to line her and tint up, but it turns out as no game. Yeah. So it didn't go well. I was like, God damn it. I should have brought Ken or Mark. Yeah.

Okay, CJ kind of touched on it, but Mike has pulled a complete 180 in the last... I'd say this summer. This summer. Mike used to be what one would call a loose cannon. You can't even... You don't know what he's going to do. And it was pretty expected, at least...

I'd say four out of the seven days a week he was going to be pretty liquored up. Yeah, normally you go to where the party is. Now you avoid it. This summer, what the hell happened? I don't even know if I've even hit a Saturday night with you, Mike. He hasn't even gone out to the bar. I mean, I have. I'd be lying to myself if I said I hadn't. He went at 8 o'clock and he left at 8.30. Nah. Dude, after he ate a burger and a... I guess I do it way less. I still like it just as much.

Well, it's good. Yeah, no, good for you, Mike. I'm not complaining. Honestly, you've been great. You've been working your ass off, getting a lot of shit done. That's why the summer, I think, went faster. You didn't do anything. No, yeah, I mean, like, the summer went faster because we were, like, hustling harder, working more, but also, like...

harder, which I think time goes faster when you're chilling personally. Like, yeah, it seems like you start your night out, but like, I think the night, the day goes faster if you're like chilling really hard, not doing much. Well, honestly, good for you. I'm proud of you. It's shown in your work. Like you said, you've gotten a lot of compliments on this merch shop, but you were like, you've been hustling. We didn't even have to remind you of, uh, like getting the shit done on time or anything like that. So, um,

I mean, as usual, it still is like every merch shop is like I cut it too close. Every single one. There has not been a single merch shop that we've done that I haven't cut close. But no one had to get on you or anything. You were working your ass off. And I have to say, like, definitely in the last two weeks, you've outworked everyone. And then on top of that, you did...

The jet ski stunt. That was just fun. And then you didn't even celebrate afterwards. We went right back to work. Right back to work. We were like, what the fuck? I swear. No, we did celebrate actually that night. Oh, you and Evan and I. You and Evan did. That's right. Because Evan. Being straight up, we did. Merch drop days. Evan has the day off.

He was hot tubbing. Yeah, Evan's finding out that he can do whatever he wants to do when everyone's working. He's like, oh, you can, like, imagine we hire another employee and Evan's kind of showing them the ropes. He's like, yeah, normally on merge shop days, they're just like so dialed in. You can do whatever you want. They're like so busy. You want to go grab a drink at Zarbaz and then go chill in the hot tub after?

After that, we went, grabbed some food, drank a handful of teas, and then I took him over to Pat's, not Jake's, Filmer Pat, but our friend Pat, who's older and he has a studio, basically. Jam room. Jam room, and took him over there, and Evan was...

just as faded as he was excited. Was that your first time ever being there? Yeah, just jamming out. It's a good experience. Super cool. The first time. He's got like all these guitars. He was showing us like this original Gibson Les Paul that he bought for $40,000.

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And I don't even touch it. Yeah, I wouldn't. There's certain guitars you'll get up and play, certain guitars you just look at and touch. But that one, I'm like, yep, we open the case and we're like, don't let any dust get on it. So what's his plan with that? Just flip it. It's on a site called Reverb. You can make money doing anything. And he's starting to make a lot of money doing it. It's amazing how some people are able to make money on so many different things. And none of us have really figured that out.

yeah well i was like you have to dedicate like his that's his like he farms and then makes money selling guitars and shit so like among many things you have to dedicate yourself i think that's such an underrated thing now with the internet and stuff like that it's really easy to get out there but if you really know something like legitimately if you really knew dirt bikes that that

That's pretty easy. If you really knew dirt bikes, you could know like, all right, this guy, you know, it's a little bit underpriced, all under bid them. And if I do this one thing, fix it up, clean it, I can make money on it. Like if you know something, odds are you can make money on it. Yeah, I agree. You just have to be super knowledgeable. So whatever it is you're super knowledgeable about, you can make money doing it for sure. Well, how's your guys' rental properties going? Mine's going actually pretty good. I actually just got a tenant in there.

yesterday and I haven't really had any issues with it. I bought it back in February and it's cash flowing pretty decent, like 500 bucks, 600 bucks a month. And I've had to put in like, I don't know, a couple thousand bucks just in like value add things like gutters and shit like that. But like, I really haven't had that many issues. Yeah. If you haven't touched it all that much. Knock on wood. Okay. And Ryan, yours? It's going fine. Yeah.

And before I say this, Ryan was the first one to jump into a rental property, which I applaud. It's a scary thing to do. You did it. And you're dealing with. It's not going well. I'm just going to say it. It's not going well. So we got tenants and they were great. And then we'd actually bought the house. It was newly renovated, which isn't exactly a normal rental property strategy. Normally you buy it, renovate it, and then you make more money. But we're like, I don't want to deal with that. I just want to buy the one that's done. We'll get nice renters in and we'll be good to go.

Got nice renters. And then mysteriously, when it's spring came around, the brand new finished basement started flooding. And so we had a ton of water issues, which really sucked. Why do you say mysteriously? It does it every time it rains. Well, it just started flooding. And we're like, okay, there's got to be a logical solution to this. Maybe the sump pump isn't working. Common issue. Fix a sump pump. Still does that. Okay. Maybe we need that. You have no idea. Yeah.

So we did gutter, everything that they tell you to do, add dirt around the side of the house, gutters, new sump pump, all this stuff, check the plumbing and whatever. Then it goes dry for like six months. No water. And then new people move in, no rain, nothing, mysteriously more water. Oh, so you legitimately do not know why there's getting water in the basement. And we're just kind of rocking with it. No, it's good. It's clean water.

But it's tough because you're not there. You know, like if it's in your house, you're just like, shit, there's water in the basement. We're going to like,

I'm going to figure out where it's coming from, all that. They just call me and they're like, yo, been watering the basement for four days. And I'm like, why didn't nobody call me four days ago? So, yeah. Yeah, no kidding. And it could be like maybe they legitimately didn't go down for four days. But either way, that sucks. You want to tackle that right away. Would you say it's going well, though? Yeah, definitely. Well, then never mind. That's good. I think my house just since February is up like 40 grand in value. Really? Yeah. Jeez.

That's really good. That's insane. It's probably the same then. Yeah, it's pretty similar. I think it's like 220. So it is a little bit of a headache, but it's like... When it doesn't work, it's a headache. But when it does work, it's good money. Yeah. So I never hear about the ups. I just always hear you guys running around. I'm like...

rental house flooded again. I got to go to Fargo or like this or that. I'm like, God damn, that seems like such a headache. It does not sound like it's going well, but I'm glad to hear that it is going well for you guys. If it was so much of a headache, I didn't want to deal with it. I could just hire a management company for five, 6%. I don't know. It's really not at that point yet, but if it does get to that, you can do that. But also like,

You're going to make more money than you would just a normal fucking Roth IRA type of investment. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I believe. So it's like kind of the trade off of like a little bit of a headache, like one day out of a month, if that. Besides for just working, doing YouTube? Yeah.

I suck at investments. Nothing has gone well for me besides for real estate. So I just need to either keep doing what we're doing here. Just need to keep buying houses with Ken. That's what's funny is like the most money I've made outside of what we do is on, and this is actually still in the realm of what we do actually. The most money I make personally outside of what we do is Instagram reels. Like that, you know, other than that, like 800 bucks,

How much are you making off of Instagram Reels? I think last month I made like $700 total. That's still kind of nice. It is a nice little bonus. Yeah, it is nice. It's nice. Off the reel, it's like my spending money. It was off the reel of Ken. Now that he doesn't go out anymore. Mike's a good kid now. That's his operating cost.

Yeah, it's not much. It was just the reel of Ken on the lawnmower and it got like 11 million views and made like that much money. It's just funny. Like I didn't do anything. I didn't build that lawnmower. I didn't. I just took a literal iPhone video of Ken trying to operate that contraption. Man, dude, Ken is just a goldmine.

Yeah, he is. He just has to touch something and it turns to gold. What's like a side hustle that you guys would like to do? Flip watches. Okay. And make a lot of money on them. And it goes back to knowing your market and understanding like what it is. But like...

all out your dad. He was showing me his watches and he was like, yeah, I bought this for X amount and it's like tripled in the last three years. I was like, how'd you know that? And he was like, I don't know. I just figured it was going to be like a special watch and it turned out, I turned out to be right. And he was like, I also turned out to be right on the other six sitting here. I was just like,

Nice. Damn. So, but he was like, I also like look at them a lot and kind of figure out what's going to be a special one. But yeah, it's crazy. Cause you can like buy it, wear it and then sell it like a couple months later. That is true. You can actually wear it. You can wear any of them. Yeah. If you're flipping them. That's pretty cool. But that's like a, kind of like a weird niche market too, that I think you would take, you know, some educating to like figure out. Cause I was going to say like, I wanted, I love to make wraps for people, but like,

customize their vehicles but people who have the money for it so that like they come to me they say get me the right parts get me the matching colors and then get me a wrap for my machine not necessarily me installing it what kind of machine are you thinking like dirt bikes i mean anything but like side by sides is where the money is so like that and then like what you just said you can't do that without putting some amount of time and effort into so side hustle i don't have the time for that so i wouldn't ever actually make my side hustle but how about you

I mean, if I could choose, it'd be crypto, but I don't make the right investments. I normally buy high, sell low. Total opposite of what you're supposed to do. I don't think you're particularly doing anything wrong. You're just not doing anything particularly right. But yeah, that sounds like a great deal. Like, imagine you put your money in and it...

goes well right you make like i mean you don't have to do anything so that's kind of like an investment type of thing oh side hustle yeah like what's this maybe like mike probably had the most thing where he actually put work in but what would be something that you'd like to do probably like flipping cars like that'd be great i was thinking the same thing because then you get to have the car drive it it's kind of the same thing as the watches but like yeah if you get a bunch of cool cars in and you keep getting rid of them and get a new one that'd be sweet which we kind of do around here but kind of but the one thing that would separate us is that

um if you were to do that people you'd start to get a reputation and people would buy them from you and think good of them not that they think anything bad right we rip on them so like that's what would differentiate and we have video proof to back it up right and i'm also really bad at selling them for even close to what i paid for them ryan loves getting kicked in the nuts on car deals it's one of my favorite things it's hard to sell things for us though because so many people hit us up facebook marketplace for example

trying to sell a dirt bike. Evan's trying to sell his dirt bike. 90% of the people that hit him up... 99, dude. 99% of the people are just like, would you take a box of twisted teas? They're just like... They're just trying to talk. It's kind of annoying. Kind of talk. So it's like...

that really takes some time like how do you get so many messages and not a single solid bite on that particularly like anything same things happening with my boat yeah i feel like people trying to talk oh yeah i saw that on facebook even like friends will do it and it's obviously you don't care as much when it's your friends it's the other hundred people that do it but they'll be like i'll give you a box of thin mints and a case of mountain dew and this and i'm just like

Yeah, or even there's ones that aren't even funny where they're just like, you're asking 20 grand for whatever you're selling and they're like, I'll give you three grand. Yeah.

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people will follow them to their fucking house what they hop out and they're probably expecting to see one of us and then shauna and g-rag and there's like you know taking them back and shauna's just like yeah it's like so awkward i bet times have changed because we've had those well i guess we have new stickers the new stickers we've had that trailer branded for a while and we've driven around with it for a while and that shit really hasn't happened

Well, that doesn't happen to us driving cars either. That's kind of what I'm saying. Most of our vehicles are like somewhere. People are waving at them, all this. And then they put the windows down. They got tinted windows. They put the windows on. Is G-Rag? She said that some of the OGs. You have to be an OG subscriber, but you recognize G-Rag. Oh, yeah. They're like, oh, G-Rag. But if you're new, he hasn't been in a video in a long time. Yeah, that's true. Probably two, three years. Last thing on the money subject.

What do you think the worst Seaboys investment we've ever had is? Like, what do you think we've spent bad money on? Ben's going to say the air conditioning. Okay.

Really? I love the air conditioning. I actually love the air conditioning. I actually don't. I like the air conditioning too. I'm just like razzing you about it. There's been a lot of bad ones, but like what is the worst? There hasn't been any that we're like, you guys, we really messed up here. Dude, substantial. We haven't had any like substantial ones. We maybe have and we'll get there, but we've had a lot of like,

pretty little flubs with like Facebook marketplace things where we've bought kind of pieces of junk. We make them work. Every Facebook marketplace thing we buy is a piece of junk. Not everyone. I'd say 75% of them.

Yeah, but it's all minuscule amounts in the grand scheme of things. True. It's only like, okay, what we need to start doing is buying them personally. Because everything we bought personally on Facebook Marketplace has gone well, but everything we bought for the company has not gone well. Yeah, because when people feel like it's not their money, when realistically it is, they're like, oh, let's blow it.

I don't think anybody thinks that way. I don't know. Wait, I don't feel like it's not my money, to be honest. It's the company running as the massive. It is. Obviously, I know that. If I consciously think about it, yeah, obviously, I know that. Ken probably does that. I don't think of it as my money. I think of it as the company getting stronger. Whatever we spend our money on, I think of as. As long as it's getting stronger. Right, right, right, right.

I think the worst investment, and I know this is going to be kind of a soft or touchy subject. Uh-oh. Touchy subject. Yeah. I'll argue with you on that. That was pretty bad. But we made money. Yeah, but more so it's how much time and money and what we invested in to what we got out. That was easily the worst investment. Never be in a position to be either like it wasn't worth it or it was worth it, but if we could delete it off of our slate.

We probably all would. I don't know actually if I would. That was a pretty cheap mistake. And it was a lot of learning. I personally think that was a pretty cheap mistake. A lot of learning. It wasn't that big of a mistake. It was a pretty cheap mistake on the scale of things. Dude, we wasted so much time though. Not really. You didn't. Yeah, you really didn't. If all of us are on one thing, then...

It kind of moves as a group. I don't know. I don't think it... And we actually made money. I don't think it was that big of a mistake because I guarantee we would never make that same mistake again. It was great. You know? Because think about it. Okay, so super long story short, if you guys are somewhat new to the channel, I guess this is probably what...

Three years ago. A couple of years already. Yeah. People probably don't know about it. You probably don't even know about it, but we used to have this cleaning products company. It's called erase products. The OGs are probably super interested right now. Cause we've never talked about it, but we went on this snowmobile trip with this one guy that like paid for us to come out. He had this like small cleaning products company. And he was like, you guys should like,

going to business with me and we'll like be like 50 50 partners and we were like okay seemed like a good idea at the time and um well originally it wasn't 10 grand or something like that so originally it wasn't even that he just said do you guys want to help promote and then we were like yes and then it got to be a lot of work and this is kind of a big dick swing move we were like hey man if we're gonna be doing this much work let's just buy into the company yeah so we did that

And it was just like more work than it was worth. And I mean, it made money, but like really not. It wasn't like netting any money at the end of the day. And then we started having issues with the partner, which is where I think we learned from it because he was spending money. We were making the money. He was spending the money that we were supposed to be making. There was some head-butting and issues and basically...

we got out of it or we bought him out actually we bought him out and then after that we were like no more partners no more like side business ventures like it's just not worth it and then fast forward a little bit somebody else tries coming in and at that point we were like no way yeah we've gone down this road before made a mistake not doing it again then that saved our

Yeah. Yeah, basically. Saved literally everything we'd built. If we would have gone that... You are right. Yeah. You know? So it was actually really great in that aspect, but it's just like... Definitely turning lemons into lemonade. That's the only thing that I can think of that didn't go well, I guess. I will agree. Probably not our best money spent, but...

it did turn out really good. Yeah, so in a sense, it did... Yeah, you're right. But that's literally the only thing I can think of that was a bad investment, but ultimately, it still was good. You're right, 100%. And then for the people, though, geez, wondering where it's gone, basically, we decided...

growing our channel and making good videos was more important than trying to... Individually bubble wrapping these things. Yeah, it was just a pain in the butt. Very slim margins. That is why. The margins were good. We just weren't selling that much. Yeah, so we put it on the shelf. Everyone's like, you know, it's on the shelf. Literally.

We use it. It's great stuff. Yeah, so everyone that did buy it from us is like, what happened? The stuff was so great. And I love hearing that because we're like, it was great. Yeah, it just sucked ass. Now we just use it for our own stuff. We have a bunch of stuff left, though, and the IP is all still there. So if somebody is listening right now and wants to buy the company... I know, but I love the stuff. Well, we have too much stuff. For the record, if you do put that out there, people are going to want to buy it. Even Kevin was like, yo, I...

Granted, I don't know what it's worth now, but he's like, for what you guys bought it for, I'd be interested in buying it. Yeah. It's got a little bit more like IP to it. Right. It's kind of more of a brand now, but. And we just gave it a solid plug right here. Yeah. It is. It is funny though. It goes back to like a side hustle and you're only going to make money if you're.

invested in it and you know and you're educated and you know the product and that was like the issue is like none of us really gave a fuck no one's really that enthusiastic no one was that enthusiastic like we weren't trying to test it's not that exciting we weren't trying to like test on shit and make our products like better per se they were already really good but like there's such a thing as being like how can we make this make the car shine more like we're not trying to do that yeah

yeah it was a lesson learned yeah it was a good lesson so i mean besides that if we're talking about bad investments that's the only one that comes to my mind but now that we think about it was a great investment yeah i mean in the scale of things it did save our asses a lot i'm sure people listening have heard this before i just saw it on tiktok this dude was like here's just a message i have to creators like three very solid points and i can't remember the other two points but one he said he just said

Be careful who you work with. Yeah. Simple as that. I know we all say that. CJ definitely says that. And there's nothing truer. If it takes you longer to get bigger, that's okay. Just be careful who you work with. And it doesn't mean don't work with anybody. Just think about it a lot before you do it. It is funny how well the six of us work together.

But sometimes, like, we don't always take – we're a good team, but it's hard to add anybody else to the team. Evan was a great fit. He's worked his way in. But, like, it is definitely difficult. We learned with, like, a partner like that. We're like, geez, that just doesn't work, having someone else telling us what to do. Like, every time it happened, we were like, dude, this sucks. Yeah, that was the main thing. And we'd get together and be like, this sucks. Fuck this. Like, telling us what to do and shit. Making –

We're 19, dude. We can do what we want. Dude, I think back to that, too. We hop on the phone call with that guy, and he was a lot older than us. Who? The Erased Products guy. And he was a nice guy. CJ kind of butted heads. The reason why I didn't like him was because I knew that he was coming in, and he was saying stuff like,

you know, you guys, you're going to stop YouTubing and just doing erase products full time. I was like, dude, we are on the cuff of like actually doing something with YouTube. Why the fuck would we stop now? And you know how many bottles of erase products we have to sell to actually make,

a decent amount of money that is now going to get divided up by all six of us and you're spending all the money yeah like i did say this for so long no then finally everyone's like oh hey what the fuck is he doing and then it was like this whole thing i was like dude fuck this guy i've been saying the whole time i don't disagree with anything you say i just say i'm just saying you butted heads butted heads with them because i don't fucking saw through the bullshit of it yeah yeah

I'm not a sucker. No offense. Anyway, we get on the phone with him and we just like a bunch of like 20-year-old kids and we're just like, look, we're done. We're buying you out, buddy. Justin was like on the fringes of involvement in that project. And he chewed his ass. And just chewed out the supplier for no reason. I completely forgot about that.

I completely forgot about that. I'm sitting here. I'm just like, this is not good. Dude, that was electric. I remember us. We're just like, oh, Jesus. Also, yeah, I would say it was half and half. It was half not good, and it was half electric. We were like, what is going on? Also, like, yeah, that supplier girl. Yeah, man. Throw lemons in the lemonade. I tell you what, though. Learn your lessons early. Yes. Our best investment, though, and this is the last thing we have to say. Best investment, Evan.

100%, dude. Such a good kid. Evan is the fucking best. And also like... And damn, is he expensive. He breaks all of our shit. He breaks everything that he touches. It is funny though. Could care less. Whenever Evan leaves, which is very seldom nowadays, when he leaves, we'll like walk down and be like... Yeah, dude. Looking around. Everyone's kind of looking around. It's like quiet. We're like, man...

Kind of lonely here without Evan. What date does he come back? It's my favorite thing on Monday afternoon when Evan walks back in. I'm like, ah. There's been like so many comments, at least on the last podcast, hyping up Evan, which is great. And we don't base our feelings off of comments, obviously, because you really wouldn't want to do that if you got a bunch of bad ones. But we don't base our feelings off of that. But there was so many that we were like, okay, it's good to know. I feel like Evan should get in here.

See you, Ben. But yeah, there was like literally so many comments and then a lot of them just said more of Evan. So, you know what we had to do. It was tough to get him over here. He was over on the couch four feet away, but he's here. Evan!

Yeah, I was just chilling, but this is just as good. Is that a one-off hat or did we make those? One-off. Dang, dude. I ordered it as a sample. Dude, this is a really random story, but I ordered it as a sample. It got printed on with the Twisted Tee. And then Evan really likes Lil Peep, and he's watching a Lil Peep video, and he's wearing a camo Twisted Tee hat. And I was like, what are the odds? Yeah, I don't know. It was a sign because I've always loved Lil Peep. I had no idea he loved Twisted Tee. Yeah.

oh until that hat yeah like this morning i've never seen that i kind of started taunting twisted t a little bit i don't know if we how much we want to but i've evan posted like him wearing a our rip-off hat the rip-off t-shirt he's wearing twisted t-shirts and then he's holding a twisted t and i go twisted t seeing this and then i had someone uh

Punching the air? No. I think I did the blind man emoji. Like, that they were, like, ignoring it. I look back to my fucking DMs. I have, like, 10 DMs. I have a story tagged with them that's seen, and it's Evan carrying a box of, like, 40 tees. We've been over this, but we cannot get their attention, and at this point, do we want it? No, we have their attention. They just fucking are ignoring us. They're dropping the ball. Yeah, why would they bother?

Well, it's tough because it's like, to be honest, if you send me a bunch of DMs and they all say seen, you don't have my attention. So like Twisted Teeth, I don't think we have their attention. But I was just saying, at this point, do we want it? I want Twisted Teeth.

Oh, you do want it. Okay. If you're already giving them the publicity, they're not going to sponsor you. Cause imagine if there was some dude or there was some kind of thing that was like promoting us really well and they were doing it for free. Granted we're, we're, we can operate differently. We'd,

we'd reward that. But most people are like, why the heck would we spend money on them? They're already doing what we want them to do and they're doing it for free and they're paying for it. Like, like they're just not going to come around and be like, Oh, let's, let's sponsor them. Let's give them free tea. Let's, you know, cause we're literally giving them so much free publicity. So now we're done with that. Yeah. But they put fucking Travis Pastrana and,

Uh, Jim York in a powerboat every weekend. That shit's got to cost like a million dollars. All we need is a pallet of teas. I probably were driving around in the powerboat before that. Companies that do that, that ignore like that are just shitty. So I, uh,

I posted my most controversial Instagram story ever based on the responses. I know CJ got banned. Was it political? It was not. The varying responses that I had on this story were incredible. Half of them were like, yo, that's my boy. That's sick. And the other half were like, fuck that guy. He should be in jail. So here it is.

First of all, this is amazing. He probably doesn't realize he broke the windshield at the time. Honestly, the dude probably didn't. He just bunny hopped over a Prius taxi. He rode over that thing. Well, yeah, but just rode right through the windshield and everything. But, dude, people were heated. That's interesting because I watched the video and I was on the, I guess,

I was on the heated side, but I wasn't heated. I wouldn't respond to your story and go... It's just disrespectful. You just fucked up someone else's windshield and drove away. Yeah, but it's a taxi company. I just said, come on, man. And then even I got...

And then I got deeper and I was like, well, it's a taxi company that probably has a billion taxis in New York City and dudes a hoodlum. So that shit happens. However, still disrespectful. The thing that's cool about it is like if he would have walked up and broke that with like a hammer, you'd been like, what the fuck? Fuck that guy. But it was kind of like bike life. Yeah. You know, like and there's just something about that. Like there's a factor where when they're all doing their thing and they're running from the cops and like,

they kick the windows of the cop cars and stuff. I don't condone it, but when they're doing it, when they're just riding wheelies and shit up and down the street, I don't know why it's just cool. It is. Yeah. We were talking about that yesterday. Well, it's at least exciting. We were talking about that yesterday with the stunt writers that were here, twin stunts, and like they can't ride on the street and stuff because they are, you know, fully sponsored or whatever. But, you know, being sponsored like they are,

They miss out on the cool factor of being basically a hoodlum doing wheelies up and down the street, running from the cops. And we don't do that. But...

But I watch those videos and it's just cool. It is. I hate to say it, but there's something cool about doing what you're not supposed to do. But also, as long as it's not hurting anyone. Them doing wheelies up and down the street isn't hurting anyone. That's what I like about it. Chasing them and stuff. It's just cool. It's just something about rebelling. It's like there's a lot of things you can do to rebel that are kind of actually harmless. Yeah.

Well, they're harmful. Yeah, or harmful. But if they're harmless, it's kind of cool. But I'm saying, like, bike life usually seems to be pretty harmless. Like, I mean, when's, like, the last time that they intentionally hurt someone? Right. I guess not that we know of. Right, right, right. But I think it does happen often where, like, they're driving on the sidewalk and, like, a little kid will get hit by a dirt bike. Like, that's bad. Yeah. That's really bad. That's not cool. So they should be on the street doing wheelies.

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in danger. Because if you want to do that, go ahead. It seems like most of the injuries in bike life come from riding in a pack. Someone hitting someone, someone going down. This is something that I haven't particularly experienced, but when you're out on the track...

So we have our own track, which is great. And it's pretty much just Evan and I that ride it together. And we don't have to worry about hitting each other. But when you go to a public track that's a practice track. True. A lot of gnarly injuries that I've seen have came from practice days where someone sends it, you know, your buddy, whatever, like land on someone and you break your collarbone on a stupid, like random Saturday. Somebody else. Yeah, somebody else. And so like that's just.

It's always like people around you. Same for jet skiing. Can you get hurt on a jet ski? Not really. And then you start riding with other people and getting all fun with it. And then, boom, hits you. I've done that before. It's really easy to do. Like when we were riding pitters to Zorba's the other day. That was chaos. And everyone was doing the wheelies and stuff. Granted, everyone was being cautious. It'd be very easy to just...

kind of sway over a little bit and there's a guy behind you doing a very fast wheelie and you guys collide. And you go down and that is going to hurt. It's going to be bad at 40 miles an hour on the street. Yeah. So many times if you're wheeling, you obviously have less control. You're trusting the person that you're flying past

To just stay riding where they are. Yeah, that's the thing. You can't predict that. But amateurs don't. And when you're riding in a large pack, like let's say we go down to Philly to go film a bike life video. There might be...

Some guy who is new to this that just got his bike and he's in the middle of the pack and he will take you out. Yeah. I honestly, that would be too high of a pressure situation for me. I'd like to at least watch it from the outside and be like, all right, this is how people move. I'd be like this, like fucking looking over the whole time, which honestly, I think we got to do. We got to do. We got to hit the streets. I want to hit the streets more than anything. Ev is,

made for this. Those guys are going to love you, dude. When you start doing wheelies and stuff. Like, you're ready is the crazy thing. Like, I mean, anyone can go if you can be conscious, stay in the pack, but Evan's like...

Like, realistically, what is the worst that could happen if we went to one of those things? Besides for... I'd say the worst that could happen is someone got hurt. Yeah, because... Definitely that is the long-term... Getting arrested would suck. Yeah, but realistically, like, how much trouble are you... Like, for us, if we got arrested, like, they take the bike...

we go to jail or whatever for a night or two. I wonder what it's like there. For doing wheelies on the street. For us, it really wouldn't matter. It's not like we have this job that's going to be like, hey, what the hell? Like, we have a lot less to lose than most of those guys out there. Do you want to go to a jail in Philly? Fuck no. Fuck no. That'd be bad. That'd be bad. I'm just saying. But if it was for a night, we could handle it. Yeah, in terms of like...

I guess I don't know what the job situation with most of those guys are. If it was us versus another one of our friends that went to Philly and got in trouble, like, they would be in a lot deeper shit, not only with the law, but with, like, they have an employer they now have to go to. And, you know, whereas us, it's just, like, we almost cool. I wonder how they treat you there, you know, like...

when that cop arrests you is like, he's been dealing with this shit for a long time. Like, he doesn't know that you're from somewhere else. You don't own a gun, everything. He's like, fuck this kid. I'm sick of them. And he smashes you to the ground. He's like, you know, like he's pissed because he's been dealing with this for five years. And he's like, these kids...

are hurting my community, whatever he feels. And he basically takes it out on you. And then you're just an innocent bystander. They send you to the court and they're like, you're a part of this guilty by association. We're throwing the book at you. You're fucked because you got caught. It is interesting how much trouble these guys

dirt bikes have caused. Like, you remember when the New York City mayor, like, crushed all those? Ran it over. We talked about that. Yeah. I don't know. Like, realistically, it's a very harmless crime, but at the same time, obviously, you can't have people bobbing up and down the streets, putting other people at risk more so. The biggest issue is when they get so many of them. Like, there's, like,

200. If anything, that makes it cooler because it's like you see them all coming, like get out of their way and let them pass through. It's like a parade. Yeah, exactly. I agree. It makes it cooler. And so if they're doing, let's say, like 100 plus bikes every Sunday, that...

Might get annoying for some people. But yeah, it's just when there's so many of them. When there's a pack of five, who really cares? Like actually, they're weaving in and out. They're blowing red lights, but they're not really getting in the way of anyone. But when there's 49 bikes blowing a red light, not a big group, but like a whatever, like a...

People are, I would be upset if I was trying to get to work. They have no chase laws in place. So the police can't chase the guys on bikes because honestly, obviously they realize it makes it more dangerous. More of a ruckus, yeah. Yeah. But they will tackle you at the gas station. Yeah. In a sense, those guys are winning this war. The bike life guys are winning this war. Interesting. I have a very controversial opinion that applies to,

to the highways around here i like this let me open it with i like this the county highways are not a playground yeah now people are like what do you mean you're on the county i do remember you saying this at one point and i and before you explain yourself i was like ryan you're crazy yeah for saying that but so people listen to us and or hear that and they go what do you mean you guys are wheeling up and down the highway this and that which we don't do that much

The six minutes of it is all on video. We ride back and forth to our pit bike track. That's it. But Evan's doing 50 miles an hour under his own power, making noise so you can hear him. And he's also very self-aware of where he's at. Now you've got Janice who hops on her eight speed bike and is biking down the three quarter of the lane. No flashing light, wearing a black sweatshirt on a silent machine, moving 10 miles an hour.

And it's one dangerous, more dangerous. It's incredibly dangerous to Janice who's on a bike on a live highway where people are obviously texting and driving, not paying attention, focus on the sun could be blinded by whatever. And then it's also dangerous because Peter who's driving his car and comes up on Janice goes, I'm driving 11 on the highway right now.

John from the back could come in and run into the car because he's not paying attention. Or you could have to swerve around Janice because you have to pass her. And it could be on a blind corner. I've had it happen in the 40 zone right over here in our neighborhood, which is a slow zone. You're always attentive because there's houses and

You're like, all right, I'm going to go around this lady. Some guy comes ripping around the corner, and you're in the oncoming lane, and you've got to swerve back over. I agree. Cyclists are probably a bigger nuisance. And it's because they act like since I'm going so slow. They act like they're a full vehicle. Well, right. I'm not saying they're acting entitled, but they act like, well, I'm biking, so obviously they're going to get out of my way.

out of my way you know i'll say they act entitled i'll say yeah they act like yeah cyclists do and then they don't even like sometimes they don't even try to get over that's what i mean and they i don't really know the rule if you should come in the oncoming lane or the yeah the behind lane but like either you know they're wearing headphones they're like legitimately in their own world they can't hear cars i could like you could be right next to them screaming that you need help and then there's no one there you know because they're just pedaling along

Same with people walking their dogs, stuff like that. The side roads, totally cool. But a county highway, like where you're driving 55 miles an hour, there's trucks. I think they made a South Park episode on this. Really? I'm sure they did. Those guys are just assholes. They're doing pretty good at adding bike paths, but I believe there should be shoulders to the roads around here. There should be a bike lane. Fuck it. They already got all the machines. Make it five feet wider. Make it a safe place for people to exercise. Because if that's what they want to do. It would cost a lot.

a lot though I know but like think about all the people there was just I saw an accident where like five people got injured or killed because they were on the highway and I think that's really sad you sparked my thought there because I don't even know how I feel saying this but I'm like they're they propose doing a sidewalk on our road and they're doing one in Detroit Lakes right now and I'm like this is great I love this

because we don't have to worry about that anymore. I'm like, this is actually great. I'm like, I feel old saying this, but like, this is great. And then the price comes in. But then you said, just make the shoulder five feet wider. Yeah. Like, you know, they put the little white line on and the shoulders like a foot wide. You can't ride a bike down it. Like it's too narrow. We try. But if you just made it two to three feet wide, it's wide enough that Janice can walk her dog too. Yeah. Even in the city.

These bikers got sidewalks and bike paths. They still ride right down the street. Well, you can't bike on a sidewalk. They still do it in the city. Yeah, I was like, normally then you go into the city and you get in trouble for riding anything besides like rollerblades on a sidewalk. My big vendetta is just against county highway activity goers. It all costs money, but shoulders should be bigger. Yeah, I mean, they're already reading on the road. This is mostly just to make us feel better about...

riding on the roads. Okay, guys? I mean, the shoulder's already there. It's just gravel right now. But it is true. When we get on the roads on our bikes, like 90% of the time we're conscious. And I say that being when we get all hyped up and like Evan's wheeling and I'm trying to film him.

Again, 90% of the time I'm conscious, but sometimes we're like, oh, shoot, this car was behind us. Yep. And we didn't see it. Pull right over. And we feel really bad, and that's as far as it can go. And then we pull over down into the ditch, wave them by. They're able to stay in their lane and continue on their way. Check for more cars. Check for more cars. Continue on their way. Yeah.

Janice on her cycle doesn't do that. We are very careful around here not to inconvenience anyone because we know it's going to just backfire on us. We are over-cautious. Yeah, there's a guy on a moped, moped man, fuck moped man, but he just drives 20 down the middle of the road and he does not care.

does not get out of the way. I'll just say this now. I particularly, I want to get like, we'll pass him one day. I want to get like a shot of him on a video and then we can kind of tell the story. But the dude, yeah, like the dude, he lives right down the road from us and we see him three,

three times a day to be honest like at least one of us see him a couple times a day and he's like rides his moped smokes a dart while riding the moped which is kind of funny but he's super old pretty cool rides like 25 yeah it's like the only cool thing he's got going for him and then we're just everyone gets all upset because he's been doing this for years now and then he also drives like a v6 mustang not also not cool but whatever cigarette on the moped cool

Not cool. And then I'm like, what if he was smoking a cigarette while driving his Mustang? No way. So he's like, pretty cool. No way. That's not cool. That's what he said. He has his window down. Yeah, so we just got to capture him because he drives really, really slow. And all he does is drive around Cormorant. And if you guys really know, Cormorant is not big. So we see him all the time. And we're kind of like, dude...

Mike, you should just tell him. Don't do that. Don't do that. Recently I started heckling him. Nothing crazy. Really? Mike buzzed by. Loser.

It is Bronco. After you... After Ryan, your dad saw him somewhere. That gets really heated. I honestly don't want to bring it up. Your dad doesn't like him? Oh, well, he saw him at, like, the community center, and he always goes there on his computer, and then he was, like, being really weird. Uses the free Wi-Fi. Yeah, always, every day, goes to the community center in Cormorant, uses the free Wi-Fi, and he, like...

was at the inn or something and he was on his laptop and he walked by and he kept like closing in or something. Like what the fuck are you doing on my wifi? Just weird, just weird stuff. And then he said that he like might possibly be drunk. You know, I'm like, that kind of makes sense. Dude's kind of slow. I do see him at the pub a lot. Yeah. So anyway, I just took,

Took it upon myself to finally decide that it was time to start heckling him. Honestly, there's no way he hears this. Like, he comes by and I'm just like, my bad man! Dude, I think we all should start... I think we should just tell him, like, dude...

Don't drive down the middle of the highway. Like, right on the shoulder. Or at least when a car comes up behind you, you got your little mirrors, just let them go by, dude. Don't be an asshole. Maybe that's why he drives his Mustang so slow. It's not because he has a V6 engine. It's because he's drunk. He's faded. That's what I'm saying, too. Obviously, like, a V6 Mustang could go easily 100. It's more dangerous to drive a...

vehicle down the highway at 40 miles per hour than to drive at 80 in my opinion. True. Because you could be at like the bottom of the hill and you're going so goddamn slow and someone just going 60. It's like, dude, you just start holding stuff up. You disagree? No, no.

Here's my argument. You said 60. I think it's more dangerous to be going slow on the highway. You said 60, so it wasn't horrible as in 60 to 40. Isn't that crazy? But if you're going 40 or a little slower, but 40, you aren't looking in your rearview mirror constantly. But if you're going 80, you're looking in front of you with your foot ready to go on the brake. Yeah.

100%. I agree. I'm not looking in my rearview mirror if I'm driving slow AF. I think you can get pulled over for driving too slow, which rarely happens. Yeah, you can because it's honestly dangerous.

like you're supposed to be going this fast yeah my grandparents well they don't drive anymore but they used to drive exceedingly slow eventually it went to a point where my dad wouldn't allow them to take the interstate and what was great they got to go through holly go to dear queen they made a trip out of it but like they're in like a 70 mile an hour zone they're like a big 40 to 45 and i mean pretty pretty

Pretty slow. Why do you think that happens, though? Like, why do old people just drive slow? They don't got nowhere to go, dude. They're fucking bored. I was like, the cognitive ability as far as, like... That's probably the real reason. Because it's not just driving. I feel like everything slows down. Standing up and walking down the hall is, like, slow motion. Well, that makes sense physically, but they could bury the gas pedal. Like, when you're on the freeway...

When you're on the freeway going 40. When Evan's old, he's going to be speeding. Dude, when cars are going by you at 80 and you're going 40, it's got to feel like you're in a war zone. It's more dangerous. That's what I'm saying. Speed up. Safer for everybody. I mean, I obviously like to drive fast, but whenever I see someone driving slow, I have to go around. I first normally get a little irked because I'm like, oh. But then I go, man, it'd be nice to have that much time.

Like, remember the last time you drove somewhere? I actually did this last Friday. It was super nice. I do it sometimes. Like, the last time you drove somewhere and you're truly like, I ain't got shit to do. If this drive takes me 20% longer, might as well. That's a pretty interesting thought because, like, I kind of drive two ways. I don't speed as much as CJ.

But when I'm in a hurry, I drive fast and I'm passing people and whatever. I'm doing whatever I can to get to destination. Other than that, I'm basically not driving fast. Like to the point where I'm not going slow, but I'm just like I let everyone pass me and I go, this is so nice.

You are who I would fucking hate on the road. What's this guy doing? Yeah, I'm not driving like too slow. Like I'm saying if the interstate is 70, I'm driving 72. And everyone's passing me and they look like all stressed out. I'm like, this is so nice.

You just love making it hard on someone. I just want to add this in. Do you guys get mad when somebody passes you? Because I like... No, you do? Yes! Yes, if I'm driving... This is on my subject. We're getting there. Dude, if I'm driving and I'm not going slow, but somebody passes me and then just is in front of me, I'm like...

the fuck was the point of that? And I hate it when I pass somebody and then I get stuck behind somebody and then I'm just like one car in front of somebody. Yeah, it's so embarrassing. It looks stupid because it's always embarrassing. You blow by them and then you really go nowhere. Or you get caught at the red light and you're sitting there and you're just like, oh. Yeah,

I know how it feels to be in both positions, but more along the lines of just driving and then somebody just rips past you. So you're talking two lanes. You're talking two lanes here, though. That makes a little more sense. I was thinking on the highway. You get angry when people pass you on a two lane? Yeah, definitely. Really? Yeah. See, I don't.

If they want to go faster than me, so be it. Yeah, because you are slow, dude. You live your life at whatever pace you want. But that's what I'm saying. What if I'm driving 83? So that brings up what I was just thinking. Am I still going to get mad? It pisses me off when I'm doing 65 in a 55 and someone passes me. I go, where the fuck are you going, speedy? I'm like, how could you be in such a hurry? Where you got to go?

And then I'm just like, what was I not going fast or when they're riding my tail? That's actually more. The pass is fine, but it's when they're riding me. I'm like, dude, where are you? It's when you're going 10, 15 over two lane road and you're like, why are you tailgating me? Should I slow down just so you can that actually that's still where I am. I'm like, just pass me because I don't want to go 75.

20 over whatever realistically this is the last time i'm gonna say i'm speeding but in most trips and i know i'm the biggest speeder of the group you really don't save that much time like if you were going to the corn mount store and you went 30 miles over yeah you're saving like you're saving like 30 seconds yeah unless you're driving like a cross country that's the only time you actually see like actual gains i mean to make up an hour of time which is like i'd say a substantial amount

You'd have to be going so fast for so long. Like it doesn't ever actually make sense. Speeding really isn't worth it. That's why we're trying to speed save time. Yeah. That's why I quit speeding and I just started running red lights. Yeah. All that time. Save time. All that time sitting there, dude. That's so funny. Cause yeah, if you're like late to work and you have to hit it, you have to go through a bunch of lights. Like you could, you could legitimately shave five minutes off your drive by blowing red lights. Yeah. So you're kind of onto something there. There you go. Stop speeders.

Start running red lights. What about fuzz busters? I don't think they... That's my point, though. Like, you buy a fuzz buster to... In your head, you're like, no, I can speed. Realistically, you don't save that much time. And also, you... Like, the fuzz busters, I don't know how much they really... Mine works good.

I have one and I don't work perfect. Yeah. It works if you're good on like a highway, like a, excuse me, an interstate where there's lots of cars around you. I did save a couple people from a ticket on last Friday. We were going to, I was going to my buddies in Alexandria and me and this truck. Did you slow down and be like, we were like all cruising, like, I don't know, probably 12 over or something like that. And we're going and it starts going off, but just faintly. And I was like,

All right. You know, I'm going to slow down. So I start backing off. I spent $300 for this. Starts coming around and pass me. And I rolled down my window and I go like this and I point up and go like this. He pulls in right behind me. He loved you. And then the, I don't know. My radar detector must've picked it up from fucking like eight miles away. It was way too far away. So we're all driving like the speed limit. And this guy's probably like, who is this asshole? Hey, slow down. Right.

He goes for the pass and Ryan's like, no, don't do it, bro. Don't do it. But then eventually the cop went by or the, we met the cop. He was sitting in the median. We all cruised by, sped back up. And I was just thinking to myself, I was like, nice, nice. That was sweet.

you have too good of one and I don't know what that really means as far as anything else goes but like it picks those cops up too far because I also balled out on one maybe not even as nice as yours has it saved me way more money and tickets than what it was worth

to have. There's been so many instances, especially on the interstate, where as long as you're not coming up to a huge hill and then you come right over the hill and you're fricked. I think you just need to know where you can speed and where you can't speed. Right. But I'm saying this helps me. That is true. Whenever I'm driving the vehicle that has the radar, I truly drive it faster because I am more confident.

I don't like that. That's why I don't. I won't have one because I will only make my speeding worse. The tough thing is for a person that speeds like CJ, I think it's a genuine thought. Like everywhere I go. I think I know when it's time to slow down. Like I slow down when I'm like, okay, this is a spot where a cop would sit. If you get a radar, you're not going to drive any faster. I can tell you that. Yeah. I'm already maxing it out. You're already ripping.

You just like unconsciously speed. I just drive. You just drive. Just go. Dude, and his car's not even that fast. Like imagine you're a kid and you have like a, like you realize there's a speed trap set up, like a cop is sitting here.

I would go and get a buddy, get a sign, put him a mile down the road, be like, cop up the way, slow down. And then I would stand like a little ways after the cop down the road with a bucket and saying, you're welcome. And then they do tips and they put the money in because you saved speeding tickets. Imagine that. I wonder if that's illegal. You could make,

I'm sure the cops wouldn't like it, but if you're a little kid, you could get by doing that because it's kind of cute and it's funny. Full grown man is like, all right, wait, CJ. That could be your side hustle. That could be my side hustle. You're going to have to find two kids.

You know, cute. Kind of probably little chubby kids. They're just cuter that way. You put one in front, one after, little bucket. Maybe you're selling lemonade for when they stop to tip you, too. There you go. CJ, you could be like a pimp cookie. Cute little chubby. You got to cool it with the pimp terminology, buddy. I don't think you realize pimp terms, yeah. But...

You're right. I think there is an opportunity for business there. I agree. That's smart. So let's just put this into a scenario. Where are you doing it where they are stopping? I'm not stopping on an interstate for sure. I'm not stopping on a highway. Dude, if I was speeding and I saw a kid

Little chubby one. Stand on the side of the road. Stand on the side of the road. And he's got a sign. Cop. Half a mile up ahead. Slow down. I'd be like, no shit. I'd slow down. I would slow down, yeah. And I see the cop there. And I was speeding. And now I roll past. So I'm like, law-abiding citizen here. Roll past. And I finally get out of his view. And I start cooking again. And I see another kid standing with, like, a thing that says, like,

You're welcome. Or like tips or is he also chubby or is he just another little kind of, you know, cute little kid. I'd be like, God damn, I would tip them so well. It'd be really good if you could find, I would have had a stoplight. But the thing was, is that not only did they save me from a ticket, but it's so funny. I'd be laughing my ass off. And I'd be like, these kids. No, no, not that chubby. Just like the,

These kids are just basically outsmarting this guy. And it'd be so funny to me. I would tip them off.

Every dollar I had in my bank... Not my bank. I would tip them every dollar I had in my wallet. Which probably wouldn't be that much, but it would just... I would tip them that. But me and Mike standing on the side of the road, we're probably getting in trouble. I feel like that's a really interesting thing when Ryan said, is that illegal? And then you were like, dude, I don't know. Especially if it was little kids. If you're a little kid, you can get away with a lot of stuff. To be honest, is that illegal? I think if you said maybe cop ahead, probably...

But if you were like, slow down, seriously, you're going to want to slow down. Then you're not incriminating yourself, maybe. I don't know. It'd be interesting. Is that illegal? You're right. Something tells me it probably is. Have you ever seen those things where a kid will have a lemonade stand and they won't have a permit and the town will fine them? That's bullshit. It's pretty rare, but you'll see it on Facebook. Like, kids with lemonade stand got fined, whatever, got shut down, and then...

Normally the city gets blasted and then they open the lemonade stand back up and then the kids make a fucking thousands of dollars. It's a scheme. Do you guys ever do lemonade stands? Yeah. Never. I never went to camp. Nothing. I don't think I did. I didn't have much of a childhood. So you did one? Yeah. I used to like set up a lemonade stand just on the corner because I lived in town like in Fargo. Oh, back in your Fargo days. And dude,

If I remember correctly, I feel like I didn't really make that much money. Like, you know, you sell it for 50 cents and then people would come up and like actually give you like 50 cents or like give you a dollar and then get like tip back. But every time I see a lemonade stand now, it's

I give them a 10 or a 20 or whatever. 20? I don't know if that's all I have. Big cups or little cups? Big cups is 20. I was like, does it really matter? It's more so the principle that they're out there working. It's more the principle. I don't know if that's just where we're at. It's like a community, I guess, cormorant. Because I saw a kid in...

Cormorant had a lemonade stand last weekend and I went over there. I got a cup and told him to keep the change.

And then Rob, the guy's parents, was like, hey, thanks for going over there. They made a killing. They made like 500 bucks today. Yo, what? Dude, change your method up. Maybe I'll just open a lemonade stand. Me sitting out there like this. No, CJ's got a bunch of chubby kids spread around town. It's important that the kids are cute. And, you know, normally if you're a little kid and you're kind of chubby, you're cuter. A little ploof. Never did I do my own, but...

growing up a little past that age and then going to lemonade stands, you pay them,

what they're asking no maybe a tip but if they're asking for 50 cents you give them a dollar but other than that if they're asking for a dollar you give them a dollar now i remember when they were putting on that lemonade stand in cormorant whoever was like we were all like well we should probably stop by you know it's rob's kids obviously we know them but then someone was like well i'll probably give them a five and then i think tint was like five that's it you know or whatever you're like you

You're not going to do 10? What do you got in there? You got a 20? And I'm like, what is this? Is this donations? All I want is a lemonade. I still ended up giving him. I gave him 10 bucks for the record. So let me have it. Okay. Okay.

Did Ken go with you? He's the top guy. Something tells me Ken would ask for all the change back. Ask for all the change back or not even get out of the car. Like, he would walk just straight past and not make eye contact and be like, please don't notice me. Please don't notice me. Sir, would you like lemonade? I don't. Do you take credit card? Yeah, we do. I forgot my wallet. I think what you need to have. He pulls out his Amex card. How about this? We don't take Amex. He's like, it's a platinum.

I think what you need to do for anyone young listening or anyone that has kids listening, if you're going to put on a lemonade stand, you need to have a goal. Trap your kids. No, no, no, no. The amount of weight that you should put on before you open up this lemonade stand. If you're the dad and the kid's there and then they say, what are you saving up for before they even ask that? Oh, totally. You say, whoever's kids were, Nintendo Switch. A new car. Something like that. A 2021 Camaro.

Camaro. 1998 Civic. I mean, it'd be a little cheaper than a Camaro. But you tell them to have a goal, and so if they have a goal to get a Nintendo Switch or a PS4 or something, or PS5, whatever number they're on, is $400, $500, $600. They'll make that in one lemonade stand. Back in the day, I swear, obviously, money's changed a little bit. Back in the day, in order to save up for a PS2, you'd probably need to have lemonade stands all summer. Yeah.

Dude, when I did Lemonade of Stands, no one gave me that much money. That's what I'm saying. I remember like... They paid you well. There would never be that many cars driving by. Maybe I was doing it at the wrong time. But... Maybe you weren't chubby enough. People would buzz by. People buzzed by and...

And you'd stand up, like, oh, here comes a car, and then buzz by. And if someone did stop, like, I remember, like, standing out there all day, and I made, like, seven bucks, dude. Damn. You'd have to do that all summer. So imagine someone tipping more than that. And I remember we'd sell it. Like, I don't know, but. What do you mean we'd sell it? Like, we were selling lemonades. Yeah, that's a put-over fucking lemonade stick. Yeah, but we only made, like, seven bucks. Oh, you were saying. That's what I'm saying is no one was really paying that much.

They were giving you what you were asking. We're like, what'd you have? Well, we didn't have a price point. Rob was telling me, I was like, man, they cashed out big. And Rob was like, yeah, people would come up, give them a 20, and then they just stopped asking them. They just stopped asking them if they wanted change. We should get some little kids, have them set up a lemonade stand, and don't have a price point. And once they pour the cup or whatever for them, be like, $100. $100.

Like, they're sitting there, and then, like, as they're holding it, be like, no, no, you took it, and just have them stick to their guns. Like, we have to, like, train these kids what to say. But if we have mics and cameras, it'd be hilarious. I love it. Yeah, as far as a prank goes, I like that because then it puts people in a weird position. Because they'd be like, oh, how about $3? They're like, nope, $100. $100.

As far as like a social. And they just smile and look super cute. And then what if they pop down, like had like a sign that like popped down and said, $100. Oh my God. After they already pour the lemonade for them, have like some kind of thing where it unrolls like, and it says $100 for lemonade. And they're like, well, you took it. Dude, so like if you got caught up in that situation, would you? Dude, I'd be laughing my ass off. I'd be like, dude, you are such a little con artist. Yeah, I would be like, sorry, dude. I don't need the lemonade that bad.

That's it. That's what I would say. I'd be laughing. So honestly, so I wouldn't have to pay. It was funny, dude. I don't know. I get that you think it's funny. I wouldn't want to pay the hundred. You're right.

but it would be really funny. I would just be dumbfounded. I would give him something in return because I think it was so funny. As far as the prank goes, that's perfect. And as far as the social experiment goes, it would be funny to just charge a dollar and see what kids can make. I love that idea though, CJ. Let's do that for a video. It's like so many factors I need to get.

But yeah, I agree. That'd be really funny. Some kind of little kid and he's like trained. Maybe we could have like some kind of earpiece, but then they'd see it. I don't know. But yeah, that'd be really funny. I don't think anyone think anything of a chubby kid wearing the earbud. Just one ear. I would think like this guy's totally got it. Maybe he's a businessman. He's got the one air pod tooth on him.

Remember those Bluetooths? Have him wear a suit. The chubby kid in a suit. I'd be more prone to give a kid in a suit more money. You think so? Yeah. Like he's running a business. Yeah. Imagine he's dressed. This guy's wearing sunglasses and he's just sitting in the back, like legs crossed. And then he's got like a couple of people up front and he's like, Hey,

We make the lemonade stand look very, I don't know, just nice. Yo, what if we got a security guard then for them? Jesus. Security. They don't want to pay. They don't want to pay. And they come like two big guys. No, no, no. It's just somebody who's a little bit chubby. It's like a bigger kid. Like this kid's 10 and a 12-year-old comes out. We're the security. He's really chubby. We got a problem here. We got a problem here. One more thing before we wrap up. You guys ever walked into a bar?

You've been a karaoke night and been excited? No. Why do bars do karaoke nights? They fucking suck. Nobody likes karaoke. I understand a weekday karaoke night. Yeah. Maybe bring in the crowd that likes karaoke. Yeah, a little Thursday night crowd. But a Saturday? Yeah. A Friday? Yeah.

Yeah, what are you doing? Just literally make a playlist. Nobody wants to hear someone sing Jack and Diane for the fifth time. I feel like I've been in groups at times, not our group, but in a group, and they'd be like, oh, we got to go here quick before karaoke ends. And I'm like... And I would just go along with it. I never thought anything, but I remember getting there, and I'd be like...

I'm not singing. Some people like karaoke. Coming into it, yeah, I was like, yeah, I don't mind. It's fine. Maybe you even all sing one time. I honestly never did. But then as soon as they started doing it on weekends, man, don't do that on weekends. Yeah, like the Holiday Inn and D.L.,

It's the only fun bar left in the winter. Every night is karaoke night. Just play some Limp Bizkit. The DJ's already there. The DJ's already there. Just cut out everybody singing bad songs. Just play good music.

Okay, I'm going to play devil's avocado here for a second, though. You guys ever been super liquored up and then go to a place that's doing karaoke and actually get up there and do it in like a random place and you just sing your heart out? I think you got to be that kind of person. No, but I... I know what the person... I'm meaning to make that experience. Sounds like you are that person. I have done it, and it is a good time. It's got to be fun. But I wouldn't say it's...

One of those every kind of Saturday things. And that's the thing. It was probably really fun for you. One person. It was also at a place that I'm not a regular at. Okay, there you go. That's good. So it was fun for you. The one person in the bar of at least 50 plus people. The rest of the 50 plus people could give a shit less. They hated every second of it. They hated every second of it. The poor DJ is up there listening to it for the fifth time. He's like, jeez.

Everybody in the bar is just waiting. Half of them are waiting for their turn. The other half already went. And then there's a few stragglers that are like, fuck karaoke night. Dude, it is tough. I'd say most things about it are bad. And then every once in a while, someone goes up there. Like there's two things. People love old people. I love the old people. They crush it. Usually an old person will not get up there unless they know how to sing. So that's great. Every once in a while. Also a buddy that you have seen at the bar a million times goes up there and sings karaoke

Keep in mind, Wagon Wheel is pretty easy. But there's one buddy that I went to high school with. But I've seen him at the bar a million times. And he goes up and sings Wagon Wheel and crushes it. I'm like, I enjoyed that. Yeah, I mean, it's a pretty easy song to sing. Maybe we'll just live in a bathroom. You guys know what karaoke reminds me of? Wagon Wheel? No. DDR. Damn.

Dance Dance Revolution. So random, to be honest. They're kind of one and the same. It's like you're either singing or you're dancing. I don't know. It reminds me of it. Think about that. When you guys were in gym class, Dance Dance Revolution was fucking lit. This is not like karaoke at all. Like when I was a kid, yeah, but singing and dancing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who had Dance Dance Revolution in their gym class? Oh, yeah.

in gym was that just all that you guys didn't a big kid school thing then yes i didn't have it dude what the who approved that purchase that's dope because they would only get two of them yeah two so like they were like they were really fucking nice they were like two metal oh they got the metal one yeah play stage two and i was just like dude let me like play some like james bond on this

type of thing. But they'd have, they just, yeah, we'd play Dance Dance Revolution in gym class. I haven't thought about Dance Dance Revolution in a long time. Honestly, Dance Dance Revolution is a lot more fun than karaoke though. Yeah. What would you rather do? Dance Dance Revolution or sing a song in front of people?

Yeah, true. That's the new thing, a Dance Dance Revolution bar. Dance Dance Revolution's on the projector. Dude, I feel like if we had our own bar. Okay, people would actually get into that. Yeah. That'd be sick. He hit the double up and down split. That would be fun. But also, like, I mean, it's came a long way since Dance Dance Revolution. Like, now they have the VR. You know, the one with, like, the swords? Mm-hmm. You're right. For the record, played it once.

Pretty fun. And also, it's fun to watch people do it, but only when they're really good. Video games have evolved. Remember Guitar Hero? And then it evolved into Rock Band. That was drums, the bass, the mic. Childhood. A guitar. That was so fun. I agree. Dude, that'd be fun even today. I agree. If we had a bar, we would have the coolest stuff there. Maybe that could be your other side. Honestly, a Rock Band corner, just because when I grew up there...

Everyone was playing rock band at the time, but one of my friend's dads was like weirdly gung-ho about it. Like probably the most gung-ho about rock band you've ever seen. And he had an electric drum set that was real. So normally it comes with the little one. He's like, play this. You're like, no, no, I got rock band three. You can get the stepped up one. But he just had like... Snare was here. Toms were here. Cymbals were up here. They all had the...

the colors on them though and so like that's how I learned how to play drums because it's all accurate the guitar is obviously not accurate the singing is accurate I remember that iTunes days I remember going over to my friend's house and like they were like hey you want to come over I almost think they needed like a guitar player yeah because they all had their thing and like I showed them they're like you're on the guitar that's funny no one ever wanted to play that I was not doing well and they were like getting at me like hey CJ you gotta get better I'm like 10 you gotta go home and practice I'm like bro

He sends you home with the guitar. Yeah, dude. No one ever wanted to play the bass. Honestly, I take that back. Owning a bar would be very hard, though. I love how this podcast started out with all of our worst business adventures. And now I'm like, let's buy a bar. And put Rock Band in it. Buy a bar, put the craziest games in ever. Dance Dance Revolution on one side, Rock Band on the other. People will love it. Doesn't sound like a horrible idea, though. You'd have to do it in the right location, but yeah...

Just outside of Cormorant. Just outside of Cormorant. Literally. Well, with the way we would do it, yeah, we would do it right nearby. Hard to find, easy to leave. And we'd have that on the fucking outside. That's a great slogan. Hard to find, easy to leave.

We're just hanging out there all the time. Mike wouldn't be able to go. You're right. No, yeah. No, I would just manage in the day and then CJ would handle the nightlife. And just drink away all the profits. Mess everything up. It would be so fun owning a bar. What kind of food would you guys have? This is just a run and gun question. What kind of food would you have at said bar if you could choose real quick? Burgers. You know what?

For the sake of the joke, I would have some hot dogs. Would it be strictly hot dogs? No, because no one would go. Except for you. Except for me. Maybe Evan. Maybe Ken. All right, boys. On that note. Everybody enjoy your week. Again, Merch Shop is live until tonight. So go run it up. Get entered to win the giveaway. Anything else, boys?

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