Hailie Deegan on Growing up with the Metal Mulisha & Creepy Fan Encounters 01:34:09

Today's episode is brought to you by Angie. Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your jobs and projects done well. Let me tell you, there's the version of it where you try to do something at home and then there's a version of it where you have someone help you, you watch them do it the right way and you go, thank God I didn't try to do that myself.

I have fully done things around the home that I think look good and then a bang in the night and I wake up to a shelf collapsing, a painting falling off the wall. Like it, I've seen it all go south. I own a home and I can tell you, I know how much work it can take. Whether it's everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality, it can be hard just to know where to start. But now all you need to do is Angie that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise you need.

Whatever your home project, big or small, indoor or outdoor, you can Angie that and connect with skilled professionals to get the project done well. Right now, one of my wish lists is I want a bike for my condo in Milwaukee and I would love to rig it up on a pulley in the ceiling because I have one of those like lofted ceilings.

but I'm so scared to try that on my own. Angie has 20 years of home experience and they've combined it with new tools to simplify the whole process. Bring them your project online or with the Angie app. Answer a few questions and Angie can handle the rest from start to finish or help you compare quotes from multiple pros and connect instantly, which means you can take care of any home project in just a few taps.

Ryan Reynolds here from Intmobile. With the price of just about everything going up during inflation, we thought we'd bring our prices down.

down. So to help us, we brought in a reverse auctioneer, which is apparently a thing. Mint Mobile, unlimited premium wireless. I bet you get 30, 30, bet you get 30, bet you get 20, 20, 20, bet you get 20, 20, bet you get 15, 15, 15, 15, just 15 bucks a month. Sold! Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. $45 upfront payment equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first three-month plan only. Taxes and fees extra. Speeds lower above 40 gigabytes each detail.

This episode is brought to you by Honda. When you test drive the all-new Prologue EV, there's a lot that can impress you about it. There's the class-leading passenger space, the clean, thoughtful design, and the intuitive technology. But out of everything, what you'll really love most is that it's a Honda. Visit Honda.com slash EV to see offers.

Like this show and want to make your own? Let me tell you about Anchor. It's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. Now you can even add any song from Spotify directly to your episodes. The possibilities are endless for what you can create, whether it's music analysts, your own radio show, or something the world's never heard before. Anchor will distribute your podcast for you so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and many more.

You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free Anchor app or go to anchor.fm to get started.

all right we're money now we're rolling all right welcome back to the life wide open podcast today is a big day we have our first ever guest on hayley deegan really i mean you're the first ever guest like yeah out of the group guest out of the church yeah yeah so it's a big day for us you know we don't we don't get the opportunity to you know have a lot of people on because as you guys know not a lot of people probably come up this way but luckily for us we were filming some youtube videos

Over the past couple of days, we figured we better hop on. What? You mean people don't fly into Minnesota and drive three and a half hours to come down here? Not a lot of people. It's not an occasional thing? No, not a lot of people. We don't do a lot of collabs, so only with cool people, so. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Yeah.

The friendship that almost didn't happen. Oh, yeah. It's true. You guys are trying to cancel on me. We were so close to being not friends, but enemies. You guys would have just shit-talked us to everyone. No, no, no. I totally understand because it all started with us planning to come down here, and then we booked our flights. And then you're like, oh, man, I don't think you guys should come this weekend. It was a bad time of year. Yeah, yeah. And I totally understand, especially living out here. If the weather's not right, it just can make it so difficult not having a friend.

enough vehicles to ride around, like simple things. And so I'm glad we all got it worked out and we all got to hang out. And then we got to come back again. Yeah. It was the first collab and we didn't want you guys to show up and be disappointed because we didn't have anything for you guys to do. And I mean, obviously you guys are used to it.

You know Playing with a lot of toys You guys are around Cool shit all the time So we just didn't want To have you fly in And be like Damn well this is A waste of time You know Cause at the time We were like I don't think I don't think they Know what they're Getting themselves into Yeah I was like They wanna collab with us I think you guys Undersell yourself a lot

Like, you guys are actually a lot more bigger deal to, I think, a lot of people and a lot of fan bases. And I think to my fan base and a lot of other YouTubers' fan bases. And I think maybe you guys don't see that because you are in Minnesota. True. So secluded. Yeah, it's so secluded here. It's like the closest gas station. There's like one within like an hour.

radius the gas station convenience store mall yeah it's all in one all in one and so i that's probably why i think you guys don't think you're as big a deal but i definitely think you guys are like well worth coming down here and clapping with you guys we actually brought hayley on to just pump our tires i'm the hype man yeah we're pretty stoked to uh not only just like

form like a collabing relationship to make fun videos together but like you and your boyfriend chase and the rest of the crew like you guys are like our genuine genuinely like our good friends now yeah which is which is cool to see it's it's uh it's nice because we don't hang around other you know creators or people in the space so like we can just you know talk it up all night about youtube or you know whatever because we're all kind of in the same

Yeah, and it's cool to see other people that are in your same position and started out where we started out and have experienced it all. Whether it's going down to just simply YouTube Studio and the depressing emotional rollercoaster of YouTube Studio and the 1 out of 10 rankings

And so it's like talking those talks with other people who understand it fully. I feel like it gives you like a sense, like a realization, like, okay, we're doing things right. Our channel's not tanking. Maybe it's just in a little hole right now. It just constantly goes up and down. I think that's just the name of the game. But hearing it from other people, it's just like, it's like satisfying. Yeah. You guys have had a serious blow up, I will say. I mean, 10 months ago, you were just starting out and now you guys are just

you've been crushing it and, and we'll get chase on here for, uh, later and, uh, have you guys talk about that? But I mean, seriously, like you guys work your asses off and I just, Chase does all the magic behind the camera and the editing in Miller. Now we have on. So I feel like he helps out so much. And the two of them together, like between, I feel like Chase's strong suit is,

telling stories. And I feel like where Miller strong suit is, is the cinematics in the photography. So like both of them together is like the ultimate combo. And I feel like you've seen it in this last like couple of videos that we've posted that it's like just heightened so much and like everything, like there's nothing left on the table, like no crumbs left behind.

You got a good crew. I got to say, yeah, that's important too. Very. I'm sure you guys know. Yeah, it is. It's important. So like you guys aren't, you're not a YouTuber or would you consider yourself a YouTuber first? No, I consider myself a NASCAR driver first. Okay. So let's get into that. So for the people that don't know you for that, they might just know you from YouTube or this might be the first time meeting you. Give like a little...

Briefing on what your job title would be like a nascar driver like explain that Yeah, so pretty much I race in the nascar camper road truck series. I started out racing lower levels of stock cars But before that I raced off-road trucks won a bunch of championships bunch of races and off-road trucks only girl that ever do it And I kind of peaked at 15 years old like before I even had my license or anything in off-road racing like I was at the top level winning and I was like

What's next? Like, I can't just peak right now at 15 years old in my career. And so that's when I took the venture to stock car racing. So now it's five years into stock car racing, four or five years. And so I've just been going down that path of trying to, like, make it in the sport of NASCAR, make it to be in the Cup Series where, like, you see, like, the Kyle Busch, like, where Jimmy Johnson raced, Dale Jr., like, where all those people made their names. And so, like, that's where I want to be in, like, an image that I want. And I want to be, like, those guys that are retired now that are still, like, the face of the sport.

Yeah.

So when you were racing the truck series, or the off-road series, sorry, were you racing like full-grown men? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was kids my age when I was in the kart class because it capped out at 16 years old. I actually got out of that class at 14 after I won the championship. I was like, let's move up. Like, I won the championship when I was 14 years old. And so we went to like the actual pro class, which my dad started in that a few years back.

And so I was racing against guys that my dad started out racing with. And so, like, even guys now that are, like, fully married with, like, three kids. And so I've always raced against really, like, a lot of full-grown men. And you were just going in there as a 14-year-old girl and just cleaning shop. Yeah. And, like, first race, I finished second. It's like, it was cool. They get on the podium. And I feel like...

Off-road racing I felt so comfortable like I felt like it was like second nature for me Like it was like it was like walking like everything was just comfortable about it. It's like going to stock racing. It was like

different, so different. There's so much to learn. And like, I just felt so uncomfortable. And like, I'm still trying to feel completely comfortable to this day. How fast are you going up out there? I would say the fastest we get like in the one nineties at some of the bigger tracks. Um, that's in, you take hits at that fast. It hurts. Yeah. Yeah. That was my next question. Cause like, I've been, you know, following you and you keep getting in these crashes. It seems like that's gotta hurt. So I've never really had like that bad of

of crashes before the last one at Bristol. And that was a couple races ago. But that was the worst hit I've had just because it was totally caught off guard. You're going pretty fast at Bristol. It's a small track. The walls come up quick. It's only a half mile, but you're still going like 150. You're still going really fast and the racing's tight. Jesus. Yeah, and so someone shot down, hit the inside wall, and came up, and I thought I was going to clear him because I'm still going wide open trying to clear him. It happened so fast I didn't even have time to check up and just...

hit me and then smoked me into the wall. At 150 miles an hour. Yeah, and so, like, that double hit is what really hurts. And then you, like, slap the rear to the nose. And originally, I thought I broke my jaw. Really? Because, like, it rattled my head so bad. I'm sure. First thing I did was grab my jaw. I was like, oh, it's still connected. And then I was, like, fine from there. But I was sore for a couple days after. But, like, initially, that was a hard hit. You get a concussion? You could, yeah. But you haven't? I didn't. I didn't, no. Have you? No, never had a concussion. Wow.

I take that back. I think I did one time. I was on a Segway, and it turned off, and I went back and hit my head, and then I kind of don't remember everything. Isn't it crazy how extreme sports athletes always get hurt doing the most random things? Random. I got a Segway for one of my birthdays, and it was like a baby pink Segway. I was like 10.

No, probably like 14. Was it a hoverboard? Like the little one? No, like the mall cops. Oh, like a full-blown mall cops. That's pretty cool. Oh, that's so sick. It had off-road tires on it. And it was pink. It was pink, yeah. My parents had it powder-coated pink. Oh, my. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything was pink when I was little. And I was just riding it around the property, and we'd take it off jumps. And I was just going straight up a hill. And it went...

I fall back and hit my head, but I don't remember falling. So you had like a pretty unique growing up childhood. Your dad is Brian Deegan. He founded Metal Militia, right? Yes. So, I mean, FMX rider and just crazy. I mean, he was like the bad boy of the early 2000s, like freestyle motocross. Yeah. What was that like growing up? It was crazy. And I think I...

I didn't realize how different it was until I started getting around people with normal families, like normal parents that worked like nine to five jobs and like stay at home moms. And like the husband goes to work and like comes home every day and like eats dinner with their kids. And I didn't realize I was so abnormal because it was normal for me and the people were around. It was the same thing. And so like a couple of the other motocross guys and the off-road truck guys had daughters that I would hang out with and those were my friends. And so it felt normal because I was always around those people.

Were they always at your house, like at your compound? Yeah, because my dad kind of had like the main compound where everyone went to. And so everyone was always over there. Like it was always like a bunch of guys riding. Like my little brother Hayden, my mom would put him in a high chair and like stick him outside and just he would watch them ride forever.

And he would get so mad if you brought him inside. And like, he just like, he just sat there like mesmerized. And I still like to this day, believe that that's why Hayden is like so obsessed with the sport and so invested is because he was so invested and so intrigued with it from a young age. Like it was in his blood instantly.

It's just, it's like so crazy because in my eyes, like, Brian Deegan founded, like, the freestyle type, right? He was definitely a face. He was like one of the first guys to do it. Yeah, so there was kind of like, it was, it's so hard to say, like, who was the guy. It was more a group of guys that brought it to, was doing, like, Krusty Demon stuff and then brought it to X Games. Yeah.

and that's kind of when it all started. Because X Games was just massive at the time. Yeah, X Games, it's like the Tony Hawk era and like all those guys, Dave Mirren. So they were the first group to do freestyle? Yeah, so like my dad was in that first group. It was like him, Travis Pastron. Travis is like 15 years old. And like if you go back and watch the movie Unchained on Netflix, it tells the whole story. And so like of X,

like Seth Enslow, Mike Metzger, Twitch was there, kind of, Twitch was coming in when it was starting, so like he was still pretty fresh to it, but like all those guys that were there, and it's like, it's so cool to see like how it evolved, and like all those guys now. Yeah. You'd be surprised how many are tattoo artists. Really? Yeah.

Because they're all, like, tatted out guys, which is, like, cool. I like tattoos. Yeah. I think tattoos are cool, and that's probably just the household I grew up in. But, like, all of them, like, a bunch of them are, like, tattooed artists now. Oh, man. Yeah. So he was just, like, fuck the system, rebel against the social norm of, like, motocross, and that's, like, what was born from it? He had, like, two options. It's, like, okay, either I'm going to...

Do the right thing, you know, and, like, kind of comply with, like, corporate America. Kind of be, like, right in everyone's eyes. And he just went the complete opposite, like, complete 180 and took the other route, which it worked for him. Like, great, I don't think in today's society it would work. But back then in that era, it did. And it was truly, like, a movement of freestyle, like, freestyle more sports. That was really cool. Yeah. It was like you had to choose between Travis Pastrana or...

Brian Deegan. Exactly. You were either one side or the other. Exactly. You don't think it would work today? I don't know. Just because, like, society is too tough. Dude, they were crazy. I think it's not... I think it's just, like, the way society is, I think a lot of the stuff that was okay back then isn't okay now. And I feel like it wouldn't be accepted the way it was. And I feel like people are a lot more, like...

a little more monotone and not so like outspoken and so I feel like that's why it wouldn't work he's like the mod or he was like he was like the the modern day like bad boy youtuber uh-huh yeah you know like the Danny Duncan type a little more like savage like that yeah they were living like rock stars yeah I remember like watching just videos you know as a kid and yeah it was just they're just crazy like they were just the bad boys absolutely crazy like watching videos I'm like destroying stuff in hotels yeah why'd you guys even do

even do that. I'm like, what came out of that besides a bill? Yeah. But it was more just like a whole like friendship and group and like a whole vibe of it. It was their look. Yeah. It was their image. It was like truly their image, but it was like who they were. Yeah. And like,

you figure you like, you get a rise out of something. You're probably going to keep doing that. It's like, you keep getting a rise out of it. You're like, Oh, more is better. It was like a serious moment. Cause I wasn't there like a time in California. Like if you were wearing metal militia gear, you couldn't go into certain bars. Okay. Yeah. No, it was bad. You couldn't wear metal militia in schools in California. Cause it was like, it was that big of a movement. It was like a,

I don't want to say a gang, but, you know, like, they probably looked at it that way. It wasn't a gang, but it was, like, just a group of guys that were reckless. Yeah, they were just causing havoc. Yeah, and so, like, it actually got banned from a lot of schools. That's crazy. And, like, one of my best friends growing up, like, it was banned from her school right across the street. And so, like, she couldn't wear any of the clothes. And then you're like, that's my dad. That's my dad. That's awesome. That's cool. Yeah, and it was, but, like, I didn't realize any of those things until I got older. And, like, I was like, oh, man, that's kind of not good. Yeah.

When you were watching that, like, as a kid, did you ever want to follow in that footsteps? Or, like, how did you end up in NASCAR? That's my question. Yeah, so it's kind of...

My dad had enough knowledge in motorsports to realize you were never going to make it in motocross. Just because, just being a girl physically, and me, I'm a small girl. I'm 5'4", weigh 130 pounds. I'm small. And I know people are like, oh, Ricky Carmichael. But it takes a true strength. Obviously, there's a reason why most men bench more than girls.

Like, just because you're naturally stronger. Like, it just comes naturally, and I feel like that's something it would be so much harder for a girl to make it in a sport like motocross because it takes such a toll on your body. And that's why so many people have, like, smallest body issues take them out of the sport. Like, and I feel like it'd just be so hard and be kind of, like,

almost impossible obviously is possible by all means but there hasn't been someone to do it yet and honestly they didn't want to put me in racing and they had no intention of putting me in racing but when my dad went to his first off-road truck race i saw little kids my age i was seven at the time they were like eight to sixteen racing and i was like i want to do it that's what i want to do like i want to try it and i would ride around on like a quad at the house and like little like polaris razors and stuff and like that was like those little small kid ones

And so they ended up getting me an off-road truck for my birthday, my eighth birthday. I begged them like every single day. What does that look like? Or like what is like a small kid off-road truck? I'll show you a picture of it, but it's like legit. Have you seen like Baja trucks? Yeah. That's what I'm picturing. You being eight years old. It's a mini one. It's like a 450 compared to like a FitBike.

Oh. It's virtually like that. Okay. Today's episode is brought to you by Angie. Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your jobs and projects done well. Let me tell you, there's the version of it where you try to do something at home and then there's a version of it where you have someone help you, you watch them do it the right way and you go, thank God I didn't try to do that myself.

I have fully done things around the home that I think look good and then a bang in the night and I wake up to a shelf collapsing, a painting falling off the wall. Like it, I've seen it all go south. I own a home and I can tell you, I know how much work it can take. Whether it's everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality, it can be hard just to know where to start. But now all you need to do is Angie that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise you need.

Whatever your home project, big or small, indoor or outdoor, you can Angie that and connect with skilled professionals to get the project done well. Right now, one of my wish lists is I want a bike for my condo in Milwaukee and I would love to rig it up on a pulley in the ceiling because I have one of those like lofted ceilings.

But I'm so scared to try that on my own. Angie has 20 years of home experience and they've combined it with new tools to simplify the whole process. Bring them your project online or with the Angie app. Answer a few questions and Angie can handle the rest from start to finish or help you compare quotes from multiple pros and connect instantly, which means you can take care of any home project in just a few taps.

Because when it comes to getting the most out of your home, you can do this when you Angie that. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's A-N-G-I dot com. Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie. And one thing I've learned is that you buy a house, but you make it a home. Because with every fix, update, and renovation, it becomes a little more your own. So you need all your jobs done well. For nearly 30 years, Angie has helped millions of homeowners hire skilled pros for the projects that matter. From

From plumbing to electrical, roof repair to deck upgrades. So leave it to the pros who will get your jobs done well. Hire high-quality certified pros at Angie.com. So you just hopped in and started mobbing? Yeah. So they're like 450 Yamaha quad motors. And that's what was in it, like shifting and everything. And so I raced that until I was about 14.

Sounds fun. Yeah. It sounds really cool. Yeah, it does. It's like me as a little kid. It sounds like my dream. And it was so cool because there's other kids my age doing it. And there's a few girls in it because the other dads that raced had their daughters in it.

But, like, no other girls made it past that and past, like, the off-road truck stuff. But, like, it's cool to have other girls. Like, all my little girlfriends and stuff, like, we raced together, and it was, like, fun. And I just, it was a cool childhood. So is there, like, still girls racing at the level that you're racing at now? In NASCAR stuff? Yeah. There's a few, like, a handful of them. Not many that are in, like...

Development programs like with foreign and stuff. You're definitely the biggest. I wouldn't say I'm the biggest, but like, I feel like I right now there's so many great people behind me and I feel like I have so many opportunities to make it in the sport and it's so hard to make it in the sport of NASCAR involves so much money, so many good people on your side and having the right team behind you and having like the right head on your shoulders. And I feel like we have a good probability and a really good system to be able to make it. All right.

Aren't you one of the most followed NASCAR drivers? Yeah. You are the most followed NASCAR driver? I am the most followed NASCAR driver. That's cool. Like Instagram, stuff like that. That's nuts. It's crazy. That's got to be like a hit to every other NASCAR driver's ego. And I think it's...

I grew up in California. California is like influencer nation. Like if you don't own a camera, like you're like, who are you? Yeah. I was going to ask you. So like growing up in California, but you don't live there now. No. Right. And would you ever go back? No.

I think if I retired one day, I might go back to California. Or, like, say I couldn't race anymore or I got hurt and I couldn't race anymore. I'd probably go back to California because I just like the vibe there. Like, I like being able to go to the beach and go off-roading all in, like, the same area. And it was just – it was really cool living there. So what was it like having –

you know, massive influencers like constantly coming to your house. It was so normal. Like it was like, Hey, my Hayden, my little brother. I remember like when I was like, I think 17, 18, he's like, Oh, like Taylor Holder. And like all his friends are coming over today. He's like, just the Tik Tokers when they were like blowing up. Yeah. I pod. It,

And when all they were like, and they show up in like a Prevost bus into like our dirt road house. And so like, it was always so normal. Like we had the Kardashians and stuff. Like Bruce, back when he was. Bruce Jenner? Bruce, yeah. And so back when all of them were together still and like they were kind of a whole family came out. Really? Kim didn't, but there was a few other ones.

there. And did what? That's crazy. They just pretty much came and drove off our drugs. Didn't you collab with Dixie D'Amelio? I did. She came over for a day too. It's so random. So random. But it's like all those famous people

I think kind of always wanted to do something like that, like go and like rip a razor or something like that. And you guys just have like the perfect compound to do it. Perfect compound, yeah. And it's super close to LA. So it's like such an interesting dynamic. Yeah, like Bryce Hall and all those guys came over, like the Sway House guys. Like Hayden just texted them one day and they all just showed up. That's so funny. And it's so funny because like Hayden, like on his little iPod, he's like texting people to come over. I'm like, do you realize who these people are? And he's like, yeah, yeah.

They like do social media. He's so tainted to it too though. Yeah, yeah. It becomes so like jaded. Yeah. When we were at your guys' house, yeah, I was going to say it was like a revolving door. There were so many people coming in, like really good riders. It was, I mean, just a compound obviously. I know. It's so weird that you guys came to my house and I had no clue. You were racing, I think. I was probably out racing. We were only there for like an hour. Yeah. Yeah, we showed up and all these other athletes are there and they're like, so what are you guys doing? We're like...

YouTube. And they were like, then go and jump. Your little brother was like, then go and hit that jump. We were like, not that kind of. No, no, no. We were like.

That's Hayden. That's Hudson. They have no filter. Yeah, we figured that out. If you say you own your pit bike, they're like, oh, yeah, you can go back flip over there if you want to. And they're so straightforward. Hayden's the same way with me. Hudson's the same way. They just grew up like that. No, they weren't being rude or nothing. They probably were. They're very rude. No, it was good. It was nice. Speaking of that kind of stuff, so obviously they're like, go back flip that because they just have grown up.

most people that come to the house probably know how to backflip and do all this crazy stuff was it scary like watching your dad on tv or were you just so used to it you didn't care like yeah so like hudson hudson's probably the one that said that to you guys because he loves putting people on the spot like he knows what he does he's got a little sneaky personality he'll put you on the spot he's like go do it yeah that's a hudson thing for sure but

Growing up with my dad, I didn't realize how dangerous this stuff was that he was doing. And there was a big realization for me as in one of the Krusty Demon movies when he was at Viva La Bam doing the whole thing over there. Yeah, I remember that. When he blew up his kidney and almost died.

And so, like, I watched one of the, I think it was the Krusty Demons movie about that, like, when it had that segment in it. And it was showing, I remember I was 8, maybe 10 years old, and it showed, like, it was obviously exaggerated to an extent. Like, they showed, like, his tombstone, like, on the screen. And I bawled my eyes out. Yes. Bawled my eyes out. Like, 8 to 10-year-old me, like, I was like, oh, my God.

And so, like, that, like, traumatized me when I was that age. But I think that opened my eyes to how dangerous the sport was. Man. Yeah. So, like, when he would be, like, competing at X Games with, like, your mom and you, would you be there on the sidelines? Yeah, I went to all the X Games. Would it be just super nervous? Super nervous, yeah. So, like, when I was younger, a lot younger, and they went to Winter X Games, I didn't go to those ones when I was, like, two or three years old. My mom would go, and I'd be at my grandparents' house watching. So, like, when my dad did Winter X Games where he broke –

Both of his arms, both of his legs. Oh, it was like the snow. The snow one, yeah. The snow motocross, right? They did it for a few years. But he tamed it down because he tried to do a 360 there. Wait, what was he doing? They had studded tires on the dirt bike, dude. Yeah. It was 360. Just gnarly. Was it freestyle? Yeah, no, it was best trick, I believe.

On the snow. Snow. Basically ice because it was like the landing was so packed out and like watered it. It just turned into straight. It was just a block of ice. That's so dangerous. Whose idea was that? I don't know. Whose idea was that? I don't know. It was cool. I mean, it was great. It was really cool. Yeah. My dad obviously got the worst end of the stick of that. Was there not snowmobiles at the time?

No, there was. I'm sure they were just trying to do something new. Yeah. I'm sure they were just trying to. It was like trying to bring it, I guess, like Winner X Games. Because there's obviously like Summer X Games and Winner X Games. And I think it was just kind of. But also, I think that was a product of freestyle motorsport or freestyle motocross is that it was all trial and error. Especially back then. How do you base a whole sport off something like you're learning as you're going? Yeah. And so it was like, oh, if we could do it on dirt, why not snow? Right. And so it just didn't work.

I feel like those guys have, like, the mentality, like, they're not going to back down from really anything. No, it's like, but also it's like if you back down, if you're that guy to back down, there's, like, someone else that's going to. Right. Because it's constantly trying to prove yourself. What would you attribute you and your brother's, like, a superstar motocross racer, right? He's crazy good, yeah. He's going to be professional 450. For sure. He's going to be a goat, right? For sure, yeah. So what would you attribute, like, your success and his success to? Like, why are you guys both, like, such extreme athletes?

I would say Hayden's was because he was so young around motocross, and that was, like, what my dad's core thing was. Like, my dad's core was obviously dirt bikes. And I feel like he, like, was so accepted by all the guys and, like, constantly around them so much, like, playing with the little action figures and, like, so involved in it. And I think he was just – it was just so relevant. And I feel like that's why he got so invested to it. It was, like, my parents weren't going to put Hayden in racing.

They were like, we're not having our son race. Because they didn't want him to get hurt? They didn't want him to get hurt. And then, like, he's like, I want a dirt bike. I want a dirt bike. And he was, like, five, six years old at the time. And, like, just natural talent. Hard to say no to that, too, as a parent. Yeah. And, like, how do you tell your kid, like, no when they want to do something? And my parents were always pretty good. Like, when it came to, like, if you want to do it, like, we will go and do it. But you have to take it seriously.

And so, like, even back when I was racing off road, started racing off road, like, they didn't want to put me in cars. I like they didn't want me to race like they were like, oh, here's our little girl that's in Girl Scouts and like loves wearing pink and hair bows. I don't know if I actually like that. I think my mom liked it more on me. But like, I like they just saw our love for it. And that's what invested them to put us in it.

Yeah. So like, it just honestly, like, I think we kind of took the initiative ourselves to like, we want to do this. And my parents saw that and just got behind it. Hmm.

I still it's pretty cool because like growing up in california, I think you could have just as well I mean you were surrounded by it all but let's say you were surrounded by a little more Influencers than you were you could have just ended up being like yeah I want to be a youtuber which you are second or a tiktoker Be like no, I want to race trucks. Yeah, and I think I want to compete and make something for yourself For sure, and I feel like that influencer world. It's so easy to get wrapped into and I feel like there's like

a way to make a longevity out of it. Like there's a certain like formula, whatever you have to, you have to find your thing to make it a long career. And I feel like I never saw like a steady career for me in social media. It was like, I'm without racing. I feel like I'm nothing. And I feel like that's what makes our channel, our channel. It's what makes my social media, my social media. It's a girl doing practically guy stuff.

Like, that's kind of our thing. That's your stick. Yeah. What's that like being a girl that does all-guy stuff in, like, a male-dominated industry? I feel like you constantly, like...

You just have to just kind of do what everyone else does. Like even if it comes to YouTube, like we do some sketchy stuff or like even riding pit bikes, like the jump out there. I'm like, oh, everyone else is hitting it, so I'm going to try to hit it. And so it's like – Would you – if it wasn't for you, like do you enjoy doing that stuff? I do. Yeah, I really do enjoy doing that stuff. Like you and my little brother and me, we'd go ride pit bikes for hours. We'd go ride pit bikes to the gym. And so like just having fun and I feel like –

It's just, it was, it obviously is very different being a girl in racing. I feel like it has its differences, but I feel like it's only as different as you make it. And I feel like you can obviously make it a lot more like,

I feel like it's a respect thing also with some of the guys at the racetrack. Like when I first got into the truck series this year, I feel like I had to kind of earn the respect of everybody. Like show everybody I'm not here to mess around. I'm here to like do good race hard. And like, I ain't going to take anything. Like I ain't going to go out there and let you push me around on the track. And I feel like that's something I had to prove over time. Like I noticed even going in the truck garage, I, the,

The first time, I remember, like, no one talked to me. No one, like, looked at me or, like, they gave me weird looks. And, like, now everyone's super cool, says hi, and it's, like, I feel like it's truly a respect thing. And I feel like that's a big difference. You have to earn it and prove to yourself. Like, guy to guy, they automatically have a respect for each other. I've learned this over time. Really? Guys automatically have this, like, sense of respect where they don't, like, look at each other weird. Like, I feel like if you see a guy, you're like, yo, what's up, dude? Like, it kind of just comes natural. But I feel like guy to girl, when it comes to racing, it's not like that.

It's like you have to earn it. Interesting. I would think in some cases it might be the other way around where they look at you and they'll just be like, not that they're going to let you win or anything, but they'll be a little easier on you. No, no, no, no, no. They're not. Because what guy wants to get beat by a girl? It's true. It's true. Yeah. Or maybe they'd put on that show in person, but then on the racetrack. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it's, like, completely opposite. Do you have guys acting, like, super weird when you do beat them? It's usually some of the older guys that get more mad, like, when I battle with them on the track. And so, like, if it's, like, say a guy does something to me on the track, I'm probably going to do it right back to you. Like, it's kind of, it's racing. Like, that's what you do. If you drive me down to the inside wall, I'm probably going to do the same thing to you if I pass you. Do they ever, like, bitch out? They get mad. But do they ever, like, bitch out from not hitting you back because you're a girl? No. Really? Mm-mm.

No, not at all. No, because it's like don't hit a girl. No, uh-uh, no. But then as soon as you put the helmet on, it's like. Yeah, it's kind of like a gray area. No, it's just like it's never like that. But I feel like they get more frustrated with you quicker. I had one guy completely cuss me out on the radio. And, like, I found it back through the scanner of what he said.

And it was just like, he didn't say it. I can't even say it. I can't say it. Put this guy on blast. We did already. Send Jason to beat his ass. But I know it's like, I get flipped off so much while racing. They flip you off while driving? Yes. Right out the window. Road rage on the track. I can't even count how many times. Wow. Yes.

What? I mean, I guess it's not against the rules, but... No, like, I guess not. People get that mad about it? That mad, that pressed. Because it's like their livelihood in their, like...

But it's like my livelihood too. No, I get that, but it's like, do they just take it that much more? I think they take it, like if there's a 40-year-old guy out there that's been racing in the truck series for 10, 20 years, like I would, I know I'd be mad if I was probably a guy and some girl, some young girl her first year comes in here and beats me. Yeah. Like, and then starts driving me as hard as I drive her. What the hell? Like, you'd probably be frustrated even if you don't show it, you'd probably still be frustrated. Like, what am I doing wrong? Like,

Right. But, like, I get flipped off every single race. Every single race. Wow. Do you get out of the car, and is it weird then when you see them, like, in the pits? No, I act like everything's fine. Like, everyone's so awkward inside the pits. Everyone, like, no one really... Actually, I wouldn't be able to, like, turn that off. I'd be like, hey, fuck you. Yeah, I didn't forget about it. There's days I want to do that, and I've had my fair share of lashing out at, like, guys that are, like, getting in their face, but, like, not anything else. Oh! And so, like...

You've gotten in some guys' faces? I've gotten in a few, but that was back when I first started racing. What do you say? Press them. Hold me back, Chase! Hold me back! But that was kind of my early stages of stock car racing once I started figuring out the ropes. Like, oh man, people do drive me sometimes a little bit harder. There's occasionally those guys that have it out for me. But I kind of got past that. And I'm like, at the end of the day,

Say you're another racer. You take me out. I go up to you. I hit you. What are you going to do? I was probably spin out. No, like, like if I know in the face, no, and like in the face, if I get out of the truck and I hit you in the face, yeah, it'd be a bad look for them. Way worse if they hit you back. So it looks bad on my part because I, I know you can't hit me back. Hmm.

And then it looks bad on your part if you do hit me back. It'd be terrible, yeah. Damn. So it's a lose-lose. Right. So what about the guys that don't have it out for you but are, like, weirdly infatuated with you? So, like, the fans. Yeah, and, like, super creepy with you. Because NASCAR has got to be, what, like, 95% male? Yeah. My fan base is 89% male. On Instagram. We were going to ask you that. On most of the social media, yeah. Ours is, like, that's crazy that it's not much different than ours. I think yours is higher than ours. Ours is 86%.

No. Is it? I think it's 96. 96? There's no way. No, it's in the 80s. I know it's in the 80s because I was like, we're in the 80s, guys. We're in the 80s, yes. I can't believe that. No, but like...

I've had like most... There's a lot of people that are very respectful and like fans and stuff like very respectful and like totally understand like what... And I feel like YouTube gives a sense of that reality like what I'm going through, my journey and the ones that kind of get obsessive with you. Like I have a restraining order on someone. I've had people show up at our house in California when I live there to like come pick me up. What? Yeah. Just that you would... They're obsessed with you. What do you mean come pick you up? Like try to come pick me up. Oh, like kidnap you? Yeah. Like not kidnap but like... They want to like date her. Like...

In their head, they believe that like, oh, she wants to be with me. Or like all fake Instagram pages, fake Haley Deegan pages. I've been facing this problem a lot. And like, I don't talk about it, nor do I really like acknowledge it. But I do see it on Instagram. It's like, hey, I've been messaging you on here. And it's like, let's meet up. And like this fake person is messaging from. Catfishing them. Yeah. But like, obviously, you kind of have to be smarter of like, hey, if it doesn't have a blue checkmark and the followers behind it. People are posing as you. Asking people for money. Let's meet up. And like.

It's just that stuff's sketchy. I bet a lot of people fall into that. Yeah, and it's like I don't want some fake person or fake Haley Deegan account messaging someone like, let's meet up, give them my actual address, and then I'm like, that wasn't me. Dangerous. Yeah. That's just the cost of being famous, though. But even worse when you're a girl that's in NASCAR. And sometimes people will get a little hate. I'm kind of like the autograph session thing is kind of like,

It was a nice break for a little while. Obviously, like, I want to get back to signing fan stuff. I want to get back to meeting people and, like, seeing, like, people wear my merchandise at the track. Like, that's great. I love that. But, like, the part of, like, having some men come up to me and, like, grab me weird or, like, grab my butt. Like, I'm not okay with that. Yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah, I don't... That's so fucked up. Yeah.

And so they're old guys. You need security. You have bodyguards or like Chase. Chase is like I need to go to gym. Just rip the sleeves off Chase and nobody's going to be messing with it. Get some more tattoos too. Yeah you'll be dialed. Yeah but also I feel like I try to stray away from that as much as possible with what I post on social media. Like I don't try to post anything really seductive on social media. Like I wear this

the same black leggings every day. If not, I'm wearing a $10 pair of jeans and hoodies. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't dress seductively. I don't really post anything that's like, oh, let me post in my like, oh, it's just not what I really do. And so, it's like, no, no bikini pics for thumbnails? And so, yeah,

there's a difference of like I feel like on social media like trying to get people to comment about it like look at me look at me and then I feel like obviously like if you're doing like wake surfing wakeboarding like you can't really be in a hoodie and leggings it's like it kind of goes like what you're doing and so if you're in the water if you're going to the lake like you're obviously going to be in a bathing suit but like

I don't, like, want to provoke that to be, like, that's what I'm trying to be about. Like, to where people are, like, oh, well, she wants me to say this stuff to her. She, like, I don't want to, like, provoke her. Yeah, I agree. It's very obvious looking at your Instagram, like, that you keep it clean and, like, respectable. And I feel like that's also kind of a corporate, like, trying to deal with corporate sponsors. You want to keep it clean. Yeah, it would kind of look weird if you were, like, I mean, obviously there's other girls that are doing stuff like that. But, yeah, it wouldn't be the right look. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. You doing that is also like equally asking for respect from everyone else. Yeah. No, yeah. They can't just be like, oh, like she's just, you know, baiting everyone in. Like you can't call me an Instagram model. Yeah. Like I don't model, nor do I look like I do on social media. So yeah, no, it's very respectable for sure.

Not that there's anything wrong with doing the other side of it. There's nothing wrong at all. If that's what you want to promote, that's what you want to be about, go for it. I don't have a problem with it. And I feel like there's too many people that kind of get invested in other people's lives of trying to tell them what to do and judge them. Dude, if it doesn't affect you, who cares? And that's kind of the page I'm on. If it doesn't personally affect me, I really don't care about it. If you were to quit racing and you wanted to make a lot of fucking money,

Would you start an OnlyFans? Oh, no. You wouldn't? Mm-mm. I'm way too self-conscious. Because I imagine, like, your, like, fan base, if it's 80, 90, 90% male, right? You've got a million followers. Yeah. And then a bunch of YouTube subscribers, right? Why are you looking at Chase? Well, I was looking at Chase because he was making a weird face over there. What do you... I don't know what he... I'm just curious. Because you don't have to post nudity on OnlyFans. No, uh-uh. I get...

Yeah, I guess like, I don't know. You see some of those like social media influencers who like just post like bikini shots and stuff. But still. You don't need that though. You're doing it without it. Don't you have to like. No, I'm just curious. I'm just asking what you're.

Thought is on that I mean if you do OnlyFans Like go for it Like if you Have a great body And like feel like You're pretty and confident Like go for it That's not my problem Like I don't have a problem With like some girl If I met a girl Or like if I met One of your girlfriends She'd go yeah I do OnlyFans I wouldn't judge her It'd be probably Very normal for you Yeah

And, like, I wouldn't be like, oh, you're, like, weird or something. Like, I would never do that. Like, if that's what you want to do, go for it. If you're making a bag off that, go for it. Yeah. Like, and so, like, I don't know. Like, there's always, like, those funny conversations. Like, look how all these girls are making so much money off OnlyFans and stuff. But I'm like, I don't think I could ever work with a guy who doesn't do that. You could because you very well could, but you just don't want to. And then also it's like, oh, well, I'll just go undercover. Well, you can't. You need a following to be successful on platforms like that. Oh, I don't know.

So like Go undercover as like An only fan? Wait what do you mean? But like Wait if you're not famous And then you do that Like people are like Cause how Cause it's not like Onlyfans promotes you On like their For you page It's like Thank you

I kind of need that for the smaller influencers, but I don't even know how it works. Don't you have to message the guys on there too? Yeah. Oh, no. Speaking of messages. I don't know. You don't have to. Miller, come here and message people for me. Oh, I thought you were going to say Miller. What's up? What's up? So speaking of messages, I would imagine you're –

I mean, your DMs have got to be some weird stuff in there from time to time. All the way from, like, old Vine people, like, big Nate Moonfish is on Vine, SoundCloud rappers, like... SoundCloud rappers? You would be shocked at the amount of SoundCloud rappers that are like, yo, baby girl, like, I just released this song, like, hey, like, you should listen to it and, like, let me know what you think. Yeah.

SoundCloud rappers are so weird. It's so confident. They're just hustling, man. They're trying to get it. Why is that so common for a SoundCloud rapper? They hustle, I guess. It's not like I ever respond to any of them ever, but it's fun going through them. I get a kick out of going through my DMs and laughing. Have you had some real famous guys slide in? There's a couple. Like...

A couple. You probably can't drop names. I don't think I could drop their names. I wouldn't want to do that to them. Like how famous? Like there was, remember that one old guy off Vine that I showed you? And I didn't even know you could go under top requested on Instagram until this moment. I went under there. He has like 22 million followers. I know exactly who he is from Vine. He was a big name on Vine. I won't say his name. Logan Paul. No. No, no, no, no, no. But Logan, if you want to collab, like hit me up. Make a YouTube video.

We'll go write you TVs. He's probably watching this right now. He probably is. He's an avid watcher of the Seaworths podcast. Today's podcast is brought to you by Mint Mobile. Everyone's got a phone, and if you're paying for your plan, you know just how expensive it can be. Mint Mobile is here to change that.

They're the first company to sell their wireless service online only, so all the money that they save by not having retail stores, they pass down to us. Mint gave us a phone to use, and we tested it alongside our normal carriers, and they always work just as well, even way out here in Cormorant. Mint Mobile offers premium wireless service for $15 a month, and all plans come with unlimited talk,

text and high speed data. You can keep your phone with any Mint Mobile plan and even keep your number. If you're not 100% satisfied, Mint Mobile has you covered with their 7 day money back guarantee. Switch to Mint Mobile today and get premium wireless service starting at just $15 a month. To get your new wireless plan for just $15 a month and ship to your door for free, go to mintmobile.com slash wide open. That's mintmobile.com slash wide open.

Back to the program. I guess I was more so aiming at, I'm sure there's a lot of creepy DMs, just as many as, probably way more in your DMs than you see at the races. Yeah, I feel like people get confident over text and stuff. That's just how it is, and I feel like you go into your DMs, sometimes I just laugh. Really, like, say. Just try to pick you up, you can't even talk about it. Some of them are so bad, just the stuff they say, I'm like,

Like you type that message. You read that message and you're like, hell yeah, this is the one. And you think she's going to be like, that is awesome. Wow. It's so weird to think about like normal people, like people like that and then think about them living like their normal lives. Out in society like working. And I always wonder like when I get those weird messages like are you just like the typical person I see at Walmart on like the self-checkout line?

like could you be that person and so it's really weird stuff yeah there's some weird stuff yeah that's why it changes a lot once you meet a person like i will get you know a bunch of mike you send messages like that no no no but uh yeah like i'll get messages since hayley's here you'll get messages that are like oh he was here say this or say this and most of them aren't inappropriate some of them are and it makes you want to be like

Don't say that. Yeah. Don't say that. Would you say that to her in person sort of thing? That is so strange because before you even came here this first time, we were in like the ditch and just like a random guy in a truck came up and like he had to have been like 55, 60. He didn't even announce that we were here. Heard Haley Deegan's coming, like congratulated us and was like, was like, yeah, she's a cute girl. And we were like,

It's not like that, no. Is this, like, common? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I just... And so... It just comes with the territory of being... It just comes with it, I guess, and, like...

like nothing happens. Like you're just saying stuff like who cares, whatever. And so, but like we did a video one time, like we were driving out of Bristol Murray Speedway after a race, after one of the races that I had there. And so like I was in the backseat, um, Chase and one of our other old friends was in the front seat and they were asking like, yo, do you know, what do you think of Haley Deegan? And like, it was either, and we were waiting for like, oh,

she's a good racer or like she sucks like she's terrible like try and get that reaction and like it was never like she's a good racer it was like she's hot and you're like and i'm in the backseat i'm like did you put the window down i would look out i go so and they just made it super what would they do would they just go red super awkward i'm like see you would never say that to my face right yeah you handle it well you handle really really well i'm sure you deal with it all time your dad think of that

Um, my dad, my dad predicted the stalker before the stalker came to our house. Really? My dad's really good about going through social media and like seeing the things that are overboard if they're weird. And so like he actually, we talked about that guy that came to our house, um, and tried to pick me up. Um, what'd you do? Call the cops? Sorry. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. We'll call the cops obviously. Um, and he went to jail for a little bit. Um, yeah. And so, um, he actually saw you coming out post. He's like, Hey, like,

Block this guy or whatever because we I have my block list is huge If you say something that's messed up on my page like I have a lot of kids that follow me I don't say messed up on us stuff I don't say messed up stuff on instagram or captions or coming back people and like neither should you on my social media Like there's kids there. I have a lot of young kid followers that um look up to me and I want to be a good role model for that so I feel like

I just blocked anything that's like bad or negative. Smart. And so he's like, hey, block this guy. And I forgot to block it. Like, I was like, okay, because my dad would send me so many of those. And he's like, hey, watch out for this guy. Block this guy. And I just got to do it. And then like that. He's like, I sent you that guy over text. I go back through my text and it was that guy. And I'm like, oh.

Don't you have like a gated community to get into your house? A full gate. And he jumped it or what? No, no, no. I was leaving to go to Target.

He was in an Uber and came in when I was driving out to go to Target. The dude didn't even roll up in his own car. He was with an Uber. Imagine how awkward it was for the Uber driver. He sold his car to pay for the plane ticket to get there. Oh, he flew there. Holy shit. Oh my God. That is a stalker. Yeah. No legit. Scary. And he was 30 years old. I was 19. He risked it all. Yeah. Well,

Well, that's kind of admirable, though. Yeah, he really sucked at it. Dedication. Jokes, jokes, jokes. Don't be a fucking stalker, you weirdos. Yeah, like, dude, like, great effort, but, like, you got the wrong girl. Hey, man, put the effort into somebody else. Yeah, no, no, that ain't me. Yeah.

You're not that guy, pal. No. Oh, my God. Wow. I think you figured that out by now. Yeah. Seriously. So Donald Trump Jr. follows you. Yes. That's really cool. That's pretty cool. It's very cool. Like, he's genuinely, like, a cool guy. I'm jealous. Do you guys talk? Yeah. About what? Like, he'll respond to my stories. I'll respond to his stories. Like...

What? I think I got my aunt, like, a job at the Trump Golf Course. What? That's good. I messaged him because we live close to the Trump Golf Course in North Carolina. And I was like, yo, like, if you ever need a good, like, someone at the golf course or, like, need a good... She's an event coordinator. And she works in California. And she wants to go to North Carolina. I was like, yo, if you guys need a good event coordinator, like, my aunt's looking for a job out in North Carolina. She just came from this part of... And he knows, obviously, where the wineries are where we live by. And so...

And he's like, yeah, send me her app and stuff. And like, I'll get her hooked up. That's badass. Damn. And you met Trump, though. Yes, I did. And his wife. Really? Yeah.

at a game or at a at daytona 500 race yeah uh-huh so they showed up at the daytona 500 and it's like idiot five selected big name nascar drivers and it's like me like i raced like a week before the actual race because i wasn't on like the big nascar circuit yet and he wanted to meet you and or how did that work i messaged trump jr it was like the goal for i didn't even message him i actually just tweeted goal for today is get my helmet signed by trump i

I wanted my helmet signed by the president. Like, that's pretty cool. That's very cool. When was it, two years ago? It was two years ago, yeah, 2019. Okay. And so I was like, I want to get my helmet signed. And, like, my helmet was sick. Like, super, like, American flag. Like, had, like, soldiers and stuff because one of the companies I was sponsored by. And so I was like, I want to get this helmet signed. Like, I'll be so sick if I get it signed. And so he saw my tweet because I tagged him in it and messaged me.

Trump Jr. Oh. And he's like, hey, can you follow? Because I didn't even follow him, I guess. I'm not big on Twitter. But he's like, hey, you need to follow me back so I can message you. Oh, he tweeted you that? Yes. Uh-huh. And so I obviously followed him back. I don't follow many people on Twitter at all because I don't use Twitter that often. And we just got to talking. He's like, yeah, we're going to be at this spot. And I had to give my helmet for like five hours so he could security check it.

Oh. Wow. Yeah. Wow. And they, like, gave it back to him before. Yeah. And so he signed it. Like, he talked to me about racing, and it was so cool. That's really cool. What was it like? They're tall people. Really? Tall. Yeah, Trump's a big guy. And, like, you might not notice because his wife is also tall, but they are, like, they got some high...

height on him. Like how tall is he? Probably like above six foot for sure. He's a big man. Yeah. So what did he say? Hello, Haley. He like shook my hand like we took pictures and he's like that's so awesome how you're racing. He's like I can't believe you raced around here. Like that's crazy and like how long have you been doing it? Man. Wow. Yeah and then his wife was like you're so pretty.

That is so cool. It was like we were there for probably like 20 minutes. Did they like jealous? Did his security like pat you down and give you like a full brief? No. Uh-uh. Oh. Yeah. Like, I don't know. Just my helmet. Just a helmet. Just a helmet. I guess because that's like an object. You get a lot of backlash. I lost 10,000 followers. I gained 50,000.

Yeah. I'd imagine most of your fans would think that's pretty cool. Yeah, like, at the end of the day... And it's the president. Yeah, no matter if you're Republican, Democrat, if you get to meet the president, it's a cool thing. Yeah, for sure. Like, I'm not going to judge you if you're like, oh, like, hell yeah, or like, that sucks. Like, you're a bad person now because you got your helmet signed by the president. Like, it's a president. It is, like, the man of the United States. Of the world. It's, like, arguably the most powerful man of the world. Yeah.

You disagree? No, I was just shaking my head. You're a pretty dumb dude if you're mad about someone getting their helmet signed by the president just because you don't like them. Either way, that's cool. At the end of the day, it's the president. I'm going to get my helmet signed no matter who it is. Do you have it up on your wall then, I assume?

It's in the back of my car. I use the helmet for the rest of the season. Oh, well, that's cool. Yeah, I got it. I got it clear coded. Okay, nice. That's cool. That's cool. Everyone's like, put this helmet away. Like, I looked like I looked up how much I could sell for. I obviously would never sell in like 50 grand. Like an actual signature, like on an object. I wonder how they how do they know it's real?

I don't know. She's got the picture in the video. I have a video of him signing it. Right. Yeah. Didn't... Did you... Weren't you sponsored by Barstool Sports? I was at one point. Did you meet Dave Portnoy? Yes. Yeah, because...

How was that? He's cool. Super cool. Like the real president and El Presidente. And so like, you know, he was such a cool guy. Like I pretty much just messaged him on Instagram or like he sent me some merch like, and I rep this Barstow hoodie, like doing like, it was such a comfortable hoodie. Like I didn't even like really like pay attention much to it. And I,

And actually, I take that back. He bought one of my merchandise shirts, wore it in an Instagram story of him just talking. It said, like, Haley Deegan right there. I think I remember seeing that. No, it's a gray shirt. And I ended up messaging him. I was like, yo, that's sick. And he's like, yo, let me send you some merch. I'm like, sweet, awesome. And so I wrapped that Barstow hoodie forever, like, to the point, like, it had a hole in the armpit that went, like, all the way down to my side.

I'm going to sell this back to him because it's badass already. And so I wore that for the longest time. And then we just got to talking more. And then he ended up sponsoring me. Just like a smaller deal, just to be on my suit and a little logo on the car. And we just kind of got to know each other. And I did some events with him. And it was cool. That's really cool. That is cool. Barstool Sports is such a...

cool company to rap these days like there's such a pillar in social media they have such an influence of like obviously they have their whole like gambling side and they have like the sports book all that stuff tons of facets yeah so many different things the podcast they have like I listen to his podcast all the time like Josh Richards and stuff and like obviously they have multiple big podcasts and so like there's so many cool things that they do yeah taking over they already have taken over yeah

So who else do you have for like sponsors? Obviously you have monster as you're taking a sip, which I want to add, you are really about that life. Like I've always wondered, yeah. Like are, do these racers really drink monster and like, you know, their energy drinks, you show up and you go, Yoda, you guys got any monsters around here? And I was like, damn, she actually drinks monster packets to travel with like monster packets. You like dump into waters, but like,

Do they make that? No. And I mean, there's nothing wrong with drinking Monster. I just figured you would literally have so much of it that you would not want to drink any more of it. No, I love it. Like, I'm a caffeine addict. I'll admit it. Like, bad. Like,

We are too over here. And so like it got to an unhealthy point where I drank three energy drinks. Because I was like waking up at 5 a.m. and then driving like two and a half hours to go to the simulator. I would drink like two to three energy drinks in the span of like two hours in the morning. Holy shit. It was bad. Just replacing water for it. And then I started getting chest pain. I was like, ah.

I shouldn't do that anymore. I'm only 18. I shouldn't have this. Yeah, yeah. Legit. Legit. And so I limit myself to two energy drinks a day. Yeah, there you go. I'll go to a gas station by Monsters all day. That's what we got. That's gotta be weird because I'm sure you grew up having pallets of Monster at your house. How old were you when you were probably drinking Monster? I don't know.

15, 16? I thought you were going to say six. I was probably about six when I started chugging the monsters. No, uh-uh, no, no. I remember when my dad was sponsored back by Rockstar. He would have his Rockstar in the morning and then on our way to middle school, I'd chug it real quick. I think it was a young age thing. I got a taste of it. I'm like, I need

Honestly, I'm just a caffeine addict, and I get a headache. It's bad. I probably shouldn't drink as much caffeine as I do, but I've actually gotten better from where I was. And so that's all that matters. I'm improving. I'm self-aware. And so...

I just, I drink one in the morning and I drink one around three and it's just like, okay, I'm gonna have a little bit of chest, like, a little bit of chest pain. I don't anymore because, like, I was, I was taking pre-workout and, like, I would take pre-workout in the morning. That's a lot of caffeine. A lot of caffeine. With all the monster. Yeah, and that was back before I started drinking energy drinks and so I would take a bunch, like,

Two scoops of pre-workout in the morning. Casually. I feel you. Just to start my day. And then I would drink more later. And I was like, no, that's done. And I noticed once I started drinking the Monster Ultras, obviously before I sponsored my Monster, I would drink any energy drink. And my Monster deal came along a couple years ago, like legitly.

But I noticed I would get chest pains from other energy drinks. The monster doesn't do that. How much are they paying you to say this right now? This seems very... No, no. Those were the tickets. Miller's on the phone with them right now. Yep, yep, just secured three minutes of ad placement. That'll be 15 grand. I hate to say it because it sounds like so... That's why I don't talk about it. It just sounds so scripted, but no joke. You are actually about that life.

Like, I've tested it out. Like, at least, like, I don't have chest pain anymore ever since I started doing the ultra ones. Like, and that's why I stick by them. And that's why you'll see me with a green ultra monster everywhere I go. Because, like, I get a bunch of work done because I have energy. And I'm like, feel great. Well, I think that's cool because you're real about it. You're not just posing that you like it. No. Like, you actually do. I'll put it in my cup when I go race inside my truck.

Holy shit. You really are about to. I forgot. I did one time. I thought it was water and it was so hot. I like chugged it and it like shot out my nose. I wasn't expecting it. It was carbureted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's carbonated. Yeah. You know, you got it. God damn it.

Carbureted. Yeah, and it shot out my nose. So I wasn't expecting it, and I was like... I was so pumped when I had that, and I was amped up for the androids. I was pinned. And I'm already nervous, and my adrenaline's going, so I was shaking. But I live for that shaking moment. Like, yeah! Are you easily addicted to...

like stimulus of any sort, like caffeine, you said? Caffeine. Are you just like constantly trying to find that next high? Not like high. Not high, high. No, like constantly trying to find like that next like adrenaline rush. Yeah. He means, yeah. Like I think in life, I'd say like in life with like what I do and stuff, like obviously. You're an adrenaline junkie. Yeah, yeah. Like I like that. You'd have to be.

Yeah, like, which is racing. But, like, I get that from racing. But, like, day-to-day, like, caffeine is that for me. Like, I just, I love it. Like, I live and breathe it. Like, I plan my day when I go to the gas station if I'm out and about and, like, go get a monster. Like, here this morning, I'm like, okay, if I get up at this time, I could probably leave and go to the gas station and go grab a monster before we do the podcast. Yeah, we... You sound like Ryan with Mountain Dews.

I had to send, well, Ryan was picking up groceries and I texted him. I go, Hey, make sure you pick up monsters for Haley and the crew. Cause they all love them too. You know?

So who else do you got as sponsors? So obviously Ford. Ford is one of my big ones, and they're awesome. Like, I get to drive around GT350, and it's, like, it's great. That's cool. And they support me in my racing. We're all in the same program. So I'm in their development program, and I'm one of their only development drivers. They really focus on me and focus on my improvement and what I'm trying to accomplish, and we're all on the same page. And obviously I get to do really cool commercials. Like, for the Lightning Ford that's coming out, the all-electric F-150, I got to do the commercial for that. Right.

Really? I got to test out. Did you get to drive it? No, I didn't get to drive it because it was... Just a... I got... Well, not like drive it like on roads and stuff because there's a certain limitations that you have. So like doing what we had to do for filming, I was allowed to do, but not like have one yet. And so I got to drive the Mach-E, the all electric Ford. I remember seeing that, yeah.

And so, like, it's cool. I get to test out all these vehicles. Like, I drive the Bronco before it came out. I got to see the Bronco before it was released to the public. I had to sign a bunch of waivers and stuff. It was sick. And so, like, so many cool things I get to do like that with this company. And I feel like you get, like, a list at the beginning of the year of, like, what cars you want for the year. Obviously, there's, like, a limit on them. And you get to pick them? I get to pick, like, you get to pick the cars.

car, the color, interior color, and it's like, I'll be to you in two months. You are so lucky. That's cool. It's awesome. Like, it's great. That's why, like, it's just, it's awesome. Like, Chase is going to be driving a Tremor soon, and I'm going to be driving a Raptor soon again. That's so dope. Yeah. Do you think that they would, like, hook up your friends at all? Yeah. Like, because, like...

We're like really good friends now, right? Yes, we are good friends. Yeah, we'd love like a GT500 over there. We're like super good friends, right? Yeah, yeah. So like when you win a race, like obviously your sponsors want you to win. Yeah. Anyone sponsoring, anyone wants that to happen. Is it lateral or do you get paid more or compensated more when you win? Yeah, like...

Honestly, we don't have many sponsors who do bonus deals. There's a few. I think my Monster Deal has some bonuses, or at least the one we're working on for next year. I've heard Monster's good about that. Yeah, Monster's really good with bonuses. But also, that's a very motocross thing. That's very supercross. That's very bonus-related. In NASCAR and stuff, obviously, the higher you get, the more sponsors you get. It gets more bonuses. How much is a truck like you're driving worth?

worth like the truck itself or how much it costs to race? How much it goes into it. No, no, no. Like what's the truck cost? So much engineering goes into it. I'm going to get Chase's input on this one. How much do you think, Chase? 150. I was going to say anywhere from like 120, 130, but like probably 150 without trucks. Do you have to start over when you crash? So that's the thing with racing for a team is

is like you pay to race that truck and then that you kind of negotiate in your agreement whether you pay damages or not so it's like most of the time you don't want to pay damages because most of the things that happen are out of your control like i've gotten wrecked this last four races that's completely out of my control the situations that happen but like nothing i could do about it but then i'd be stuck with that bill so like obviously i don't pay for that so

I just go out there and I race hard, and I try to get the best finish possible because I want to do good. That's nice because then if you do have to pay for it, you're probably holding back. You'd be a different person. I know a lot of people would be like that too. Wow. I'd imagine there's probably insurance on those, right? Mm-mm. Really? No. Mm-mm.

Yeah, there's no way they didn't. Well, I would have an insurance company be like, I want to insure. I want to insure your truck that 50% of you guys crash every single race. High policy. Insurance companies would go under. High risk. Yeah. Bad question. So you got tons of sponsors, obviously, then. And then I have smaller sponsors. Like, one of my favorites is Heat Wave Sunglasses. Like, they're sick. I love their company. It's, like, total retro. Like, that, like, 90s vibe. And I love, like, the neon colors. Yeah.

Craftsman, which is great for, like, tools and stuff. Really cool. And, like, there's just, I have a trash company that sponsors me. They do the trucks and trash cans. They, like, the actual trash trucks and the trash cans. All the way down to the trash cans. All the way down to the trash cans. Yeah, and so they're based out of Charlotte. It's, like, I know the CEO of that company, and I'm good friends with him. So, like, it's just, I have a lot of cool people around me that are, like, I really try to only work with people that are truly on the same mindset as me and that, like, we kind of are on the same page. That's smart. So hard to work with people that aren't. Yeah.

They genuinely want to help you versus just sponsor you. Yes, exactly. You're being meticulous about who you work with. You're not just going to work with them just because they're going to pay you. Exactly. It has to make sense, which is very smart. It's a long-term play. Yeah. Obviously, the racing keeps you super busy, but I cannot believe that you guys are also doing the YouTube thing as well as you are on top of all that because you guys are crushing on YouTube doing three videos a week.

And, I mean, I think we got to get Chase in here because he's very much so a part of your YouTube channel. Chase. All right, Chase, you hop on. I'm going to go take a peek. All right, we'll take a little break here, I guess.

Ben drank too much Monster.

and the service is available for clients worldwide. You can log into your account anytime and send a message to your therapist, and you'll get timely and thoughtful responses. Plus, you can schedule weekly video or phone sessions. BetterHelp is committed to facilitating great therapeutic matches so they make it easy and free to change therapists if you need.

It's more affordable than traditional offline therapy and financial aid is available. BetterHelp wants you to start living a happier life today. Visit their website and read through the testimonials that are posted daily. www.betterhelp.com slash reviews. There's no shame in reaching out for help. So please visit betterhelp.com slash wide open. That's better H E L P and join the over 2 million people that have taken charge of their mental health with the help of an experienced professional in

In fact, so many people have been using BetterHelp that they're recruiting additional therapists in all 50 states. A special offer for Life Wide Open podcast listeners. Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com backslash wide open. What's up, dude? Do you want me to, like, speak? I'd hope so. Oh! Ken blocks rim. Are you okay, Mike? Is that on camera? Jesus, Mike. We're going to have to start wearing pot or helmets on the podcast. All right, we're back after a little potty break Ben took. Sorry.

Anyways, so you guys are super busy with racing. What made you think that you wanted to add... They got some torque behind them. What made you think you wanted to add...

YouTube on top of it because YouTube is already in itself a full-time job. That's two full-time jobs. Two full-time and then you have merchandise on top of that which usually someone else runs and so like... And you're doing that all yourself as well. It's pretty much three full-time jobs like that we have to balance and so it's tough because like we have to be involved in all three of those jobs and so...

I would say when it comes down to wanting to do YouTube, he was obviously obsessed with YouTube from a young age, watched a bunch of the big-name influencers, and truly just loved YouTube, which is like most kids. And so he actually did some of his own vlogs, and it was tough for him. Dude, I vlogged every day. And his stuff was quality stuff. You vlogged every day? It's tough to get picked up. Just never got picked up. I would say I did every day for maybe...

Couple months and then I went to like every other day and then I realized I still wasn't getting more than like three views It's literally like a lot of like for fucking 99% of the people it was like all right It was like one video got like 2,700 and it was like we went to like a haunted house and

on my channel and that was like my first video that got in the 2000s. I was like, I made it. Isn't that funny how like you're, when you hit a thousand views, you're like, this is insane. That's so many people. It's just like the milestones obviously keep moving. But so do we, did we mention your, yeah, I was just going to say, we didn't mention this is Chase's

You're Haley's boyfriend and you guys run the YouTube channel together. Boyfriend, business, and... Also, like, race. You're kind of part of the race, like...

Are you part of that? Yeah, you're very much so intermingled in your guys' lives. And it's cool. Like, I could never date someone who isn't aware of racing and been involved in racing because it's so hard explaining people racing and understanding what I'm going through. It's like, he obviously understands what I'm going through. Because Chase used to race too. Yeah, he's raced a lot. He's a great racer. And, like, especially him being good at racing, it helps me because I have everything.

his outside input as a racer. So I feel like it helps me personally. Obviously, we get in our arguments, like, at the beginning of the season of him trying to tell me, like, what to do and stuff, which, like... Dude, it used to grind my ears. It used to get so mad at me. I wish I could make a montage at the end of the years that you just hear me behind the camera, like, videoing, and I just...

I'll get like off whatever stand I'm sitting on, like standing. Cause I find like anywhere to stand at a racetrack. I I'll climb fences, like whatever I gotta do to make it the shot. You're a hustler, man. Right. So like, and sometimes you just see me like on camera, like I'm like clipping it and you just see me, I get down and I'm like, I'm done. I'm done.

I'm like, I told him not to do that. Oh, yeah, like the amount of lectures, not even lectures, like arguments that we got in where he's like, I told you not to do that. Like, this is what you did. You're going to show me the video. I'm like, you don't understand. It's so much harder than you think. I don't think I have my phone on me, but I used to, at every race, take notes.

of like what lap she did, what lap and what she did wrong. And then we'd like sit back and look at those notes and then try to find it in the film. Well, what was funny was she got so like, all you do is tell me what I did wrong. So then I would go like put in there like just like random laps. And you would lie to me? Like good restart. But here's where you really need to improve.

I didn't know that. Oh, Chase. Because he was always like telling me what the negatives are. He was like never telling me what the positives are. Well, it's nice that you care. Because I mean, from what I see, you guys work really as a team. And you guys are a match made in heaven, if you ask me. I mean, it's nice to see. I thought it was more me and Ben, but I guess you can see this way too. I think we're pretty good too, Chase. I think you guys make it work. For sure. You guys have matching tattoos? Yeah.

Right here. What is it? Little flames. It's like your twin flame. Oh, that's fire. That is fire. Did you do that because of the flame hoodie that we gave you? Totally, yeah. Like, they had it before that. You see, I was actually cold before I was going to come in here and do the podcast, and the only hoodie I have left that's clean is that one in my bag. And I was like, man, I would look really corny on a seagull.

Oh, bro. That'd be dope. That'd be cool. We actually did appreciate that because the first... So to add context to the listener, the first time they came out and we did our video, whatever, before we sent you guys home, we were like, hey, here's some merch. And normally when we do that with other YouTubers, they...

I mean some of them wear it some don't yeah but you guys actually rep that shit so we appreciate that and you guys wear it a lot what is going on oh dude I just see Haley's eyes yeah I was like what the fuck's Ben doing I was like the rave in the other room yeah you look over and I'm just like let's bring it back to the to the YouTube though um

So you guys decided... Whose idea was it to start the YouTube channel? I think it was mine. Yeah. I was like...

You know, she had had a social media. It's a big opportunity. I was on my dad's YouTube channel before. It was a family channel. The Deagans. I have many videos. We didn't do a lot of videos because he figured motos every single day, racing, cars is not. And so it's hard to make daily content with that. And so I was on it occasionally, not a ton. And I didn't really invest a lot of time into it because it wasn't like necessarily my channel. Well, it makes sense to have your own, honestly. And I had fired up my own vlogs.

I was posting him as unlisted and sending him to my friends like two to three weeks before we were going to produce our vlogs.

Um, and I was doing it and posting it as a list. I did for like three weeks straight to get people's feedback because when I came and did it here, I wanted it to be done right. Yeah. So like, I just kept doing that, like trying to get a little bit better and better, um, at doing it. But like YouTube was always my thing. Like I just love YouTube. You do a really good job at it too. I need to appreciate it, man. Where did, where did your knowledge come from? Because you, you guys started YouTubing.

10 months ago and you're at what 350,000 subscribers right now like that's you guys had you guys are on a serious blow up like you're you're

That took us like three years. If you would have asked Chase two weeks ago, he's like, our channel's dead. Like, it's done. We had two 10 out of 10s. You know, we come into this week and it's like, one out of 10. One out of 10. He's like, dude, we're back up. Like, we made it. Everyone watching that isn't a YouTuber right now. It's like, no idea what that means. Just to add some context, when you post a YouTube video, it will rank it within your last 10.

10 videos as to how it's doing relative to those. So if you have a 10 out of 10 video, that means that it's doing obviously the worst versus a one out of 10 means it's doing really well. So, and it, it really does impact people. Definitely. And it like affects my day every day. I wanted to add when Haley was talking about how racing was like her number one and YouTube was her second being that I don't have racing anymore. Um,

YouTube is my one. You take that role, yeah. So like if it's going good, I'm in a good mood. You feel like you're doing a good job, yeah. And like it's never – it's not like you go – you talk about people who go to a 9-5 job and go home and just can disconnect and get on their phones and be done with life. You don't. Like you've got to think of what's next. How can we go bigger? How can we go better? And I think one of the things that really frustrates me the most is I've like always wanted to be – if there's a problem, how can we fix it?

Or what can I do to make it better? And with YouTube, I don't feel like you have that option. Like sometimes like you produce your best quality of what you thought was the best with a great idea and a great thumbnail and a great title. And you don't get results from it. It just doesn't get pushed. YouTube doesn't push it. And you're like, I can't fix it. So it's even that much more frustrating to me is the fact of like,

Well, how do I know that's not going to happen for the next 10 videos in a row? You know, but think back to the days when you were getting a hundred views and

And you were stoked that 100 people watched it. And now you're upset that only 200,000. You're upset that one video might be 10,000 views less than the other. That could put it into the fifth position. Yeah, but here's the difference, though. Back then, YouTube was fun. It's still fun, but it's a livelihood. It's a livelihood now. It's like how we're able to come here. Man, when you guys first came here, which we didn't know.

at the time, but like you were, you were really risking it all. Like you were, you kind of were, you tried to flake. I didn't try to flake. That made us look extra bad. On my end, I just thought you guys were like really balling. And like, I didn't know if we had a whole lot to offer, as I said earlier, but, but you were out, it was in the process of you kind of trying to,

do your own thing. Like, you were trying to pave your own way. I mean, both of you. Yeah, so I pretty much moved out of my parents' house in California because I had to be here for racing. Like, not here, North Carolina. I forgot where I'm at. At the Seaboys. I had to be at the Seaboys for racing. So, like, no. Hey!

I had to be in Charlotte, North Carolina for racing. And that's where I had to be starting the season and coming up. I had to go simulator. Like I had so much to do out here that I couldn't be flying five hours back and forth every single time I needed to sit in my truck to go get fitted. And so we pretty much like went out on a limb and I moved out and

I want to do it all like I wanted it to be. I didn't want to be like, oh, mom and dad, like I need money to go do this. Because everyone thinks that you're daddy's money? Everyone thinks I'm daddy's money. Dude, people will be like, your dad owns Monster. That's why. I'm like, dude, my dad owns Monster? I would not be doing this stuff. I hate it.

I would not be, like, working ourselves to death. Yeah, because you guys work so hard. And we just... So many hours get put into it because it's, once again, doing three jobs with two people. So it's, like, trying to balance that with us. For a while, when we were...

We were doing two videos, so we were not having any schedule. And we came up here. We had just about 100K. And we came up here, and I looked at you guys' whiteboard, and I sat down that one night, and we talked for, like, hours about YouTube. Yeah, me and you, yeah. Yeah, and you were talking about, like, schedule, and then I would hear you talking to Ben about, oh, this will go in this video, this will go in Thursday's video. I was like, damn, like, they got their shit together. Yeah, it's more thought out than what people think from the outside.

And I was like, we really, I left here and I was like, we really need to get on like a schedule. Next day he bought a whiteboard. Yeah. Next day, bought a whiteboard. So like you guys were Monday and Thursday. I was like, look, I don't want to be on their schedule. Like, I don't want to feel like, I don't want them to feel as if we had copied them. I wouldn't have been mad at all. So we went like Sunday and Wednesday and we were like on that for a while. And I was like,

We were doing that and I was like, hey, I think we could ramp it up to three because there's times when you get like in two videos and you could do get some lax days. And I was like, I think we could go three. Well,

One more video a week is a lot. Yeah. Two videos is a grind. Because it takes it from four days overall. He figured like a day for filming, a day for editing. It takes it from four days to six days. And that's not including me racing and us having to travel and do other things. So we did that for so long. And I was up so many nights, late nights, like hours.

Early mornings, I felt like I was running myself to the ground to the point where I was like,

I don't know how much longer I can physically do that. Trying to edit and film all these videos for you guys. It was painful. And I wish at times that... I'm glad I never did, but there were so many times when I sat down on a fresh timeline. I looked at it and I was like, I think I could just slam this video together and it'd be alright. And just be good enough.

But, like, I would never let myself get there because I'm a perfectionist. And so, like, I just, like, no matter what, no matter how long it took, no matter how many hours, I was just going to keep going. And then it got to a point when, like,

I needed somebody else, and that's when we brought Miller on a month ago. And I've noticed it's been a lot easier over the last month, a month and a half or so. And I feel like you've been happier too. That's good. That's important. He's in so much of a better mood. Having more free head space. Yeah. So much less stress, and it shows. Plan and, you know, work, put more effort into it. Miller left for one week for a car rally. He texted me, like, the night before. He's like, yo, this guy wants to pay a ton of money. Go on this car rally.

He's like, all right, man. You love that type of stuff. I'm all for seeing people succeed and do what they love. He loves cars. So go on the car rally. He's like, you sure? He's like, yeah, of course. If you can, I can handle it for a week. I did it for months. That week was brutal. Oh, my gosh. So let's not let that happen again, brother. That's funny.

I kind of want to go back to, like, the beginning stage of, like, truly taking a risk and, like, starting from basically nothing, you know? Starting fresh slate. Mm-hmm. And now...

After 10 months, 350,000, you know, 4 million views last month. Like, seriously, from rags to riches. No, like, that's an insane... You make us feel like we're balling. Yeah, no, well, that's like an insane glow. From where we came from. And, like...

It was just, honestly, it was a risk going out on a limb and living in North Carolina. And, like, us doing this all together. Like, sleeping in a car last time we were here. Yeah. But no one knows that. Yeah. Nobody knows those stories. I'm daddy's money. Like, when I moved out, like, I didn't take a dollar in my parents' money. Like, not a dollar. Like, we did this all on our own. I remember, so you couldn't cancel the flights.

because it was too late and we were like, yo, I don't know if there's anything for you to do. You're like, I guess we'll just come out and try to film something if you guys want to still collab. We're like, well, if you're coming out, we're going to do something. We're going to make something work. And it ended up being a great video and we had a lot of fun hanging out. But like, you literally financially couldn't

not use that. You had to. Had to, yeah. Yeah, we were... Well, what we had done was when you guys had said that, our first thought was, hey, let's figure out if there's any other YouTubers that we could do. Or if there's anything that we could do. Like, because that... You couldn't cancel it, so you might as well take it and...

Try to do something while you're out here to make time worth it. And you guys slept in your car. Yeah. I felt so bad when I heard it. I'm like, we have extra rooms and you could have slept here. But you're not going to be like, can I sleep at your place? You didn't know us. And I'm sure you guys didn't want to intrude. You were trying to be respectful. Getting to know you guys has been a pleasure. It's been fun just to especially see your...

You glow up. I mean, like I said, in 10 months time, you've really turned around. Like, you guys are doing very well. Like, it worked. Yeah, your risk, everything paid off. From, like, how are we going to eat tonight to, like...

How are we going to decorate the new house? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's amazing. We just bought a house, like, literally of going out on a limb and, like, not even talking. You guys are the first to know that on the podcast. Hard work pays off. No one else knows we just bought a house. Congratulations, guys. Thank you. Appreciate it. When you're not racing or making a YouTube video. There's not. I know you're not because I know what you guys are scheduled. But if, let's say, you had a day off, what would you want to do with that day off? Not do anything. That's what most YouTubers say. Get caught up on dishes and laundry. Yeah.

I got to do that and I was so excited. I think like... I'm like, all the laundry's done. We were talking about it. Like, we don't really have a normal relationship. Like, we don't... We don't do date nights. We don't do date nights. We don't do anything like that. I couldn't even tell you, Tom, that we both got dressed up and went to dinner. I think our life is so consumed right now by like...

We got to make something of why we got it. It's true. Make hay while the sun shines. Yeah. So, sure. I have no clue what that means. Yeah. It's not legit. There's one piece of advice. Like, don't feel like you have to post to stay on the schedule and then end up being burnt out. Mm-hmm.

See, like, I've... You kind of had to for a while, though. Like, we had to do that, too, but... Yeah, you do, but, like, if you look back at it, it's, like, if you skip a video three months ago, six months ago, two years ago, like, what... Does it matter that much? Yeah. I guess our stance is, like, we want, like, the videos to live on forever, like...

you know, video can keep being viewed because it's just, if it's a good video and it's not like something that has to be, is very like time relevant. See, well, that was what I was going to say. See, like I was going to say that is our videos can't, a lot of ours can't, they can't live on forever because a lot of ours have to do with races that have already happened. True. And if the race happens and if I don't post a video within the two days, it's first of all, it's irrelevant there.

Everybody's going on to a new week. Nobody cares. So like I got to get the video out. But at the same time, the next time a race happens, that video, that is irrelevant. Like you can literally watch a views just stop. So it's just kind of done there, yeah. And I mean, like we were saying, it's all relevant to each person. Like people make things work that would never work for us. Today is the first day that I'll miss a day.

In six months. Yeah. So I don't think it's that big of a deal. Good. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's good. Not good. Good. It's really not that big of a deal. Yeah. I feel like you kind of got like when I watch your videos, it's like very much so like a crew almost like ours. Like you have obviously Haley.

you chase and then Miller now and then Moe as well. Let's go Moe. And then our dog. And then our dog. And Rambo. Which hopefully Rambo's okay because he just got stung by a bee or something. God, that dog is just so prone. They have my card on file there.

I can't believe he's four pounds. That's what I'm most impressed about. That's something living can be four pounds. We do have a crew. And I think that's why we try to... It's important. I think you need that nowadays in YouTube. Like, you can bounce off each other. It's no more just talking to the camera. Yeah, it's like tough to find yourself. You need people to bounce off with. Everybody has a group dynamic. Every big YouTuber has kind of like his crew of people. David Dobrik, obviously. Now, Steve, even in his own videos, has...

characters i don't think you guys deal with this as much as we do i was literally talking about it to her last night is that like when i'm editing i want there's certain things that i want her to say to like oh i know this would be a good lead to this or i remember this happening earlier and i know i'm gonna take it and put it over here so can you like say something so like there's a lot of times where i'll ask her to say like select choice words uh like

Oh, like just to make the transition smoother where you guys don't really have to deal with that because yours literally is C boys. It's, it's the crew, but ours is Haley Deegan. So no matter what she has to lead it, no matter what the pit biking, anything has to be with her face, whether it's her reacting to it, whether like I can go ride like we did yesterday, but I literally has to be mainly her. And like, you can throw away and like the channel is,

primarily her channel. She has to do the intro. She has to do the outro. She has to do the transition. She has to be the one to say most of the stuff. So there's times when I like want a certain piece and I'm like, hey, just say this. Yeah. Because like, you know, you know, you kind of help produce it. You know when you're literally You're good on camera, Hayley, I will say. You know when you're filming, you're literally editing at the same time in your head. Yeah, no. Like at least I feel like I do that. That's how it is for me too. And so like you know kind of what you need.

You know, and when you don't have that mindset of, like, that filming and editing mindset, like, I can't be mad when she doesn't know to say the exact word that I want her to say, even though I still get mad. I think that was a hard part in our relationship, like, to get over. Like, I...

I do not know what you want me to say, but you expect me to say it. Like, tell me what you want me to say. And then we got a lot better about our communication. Like, hey, just tell me exactly what you want me to say. I'll put it in my own words. It's funny because our arguments are not like normal relationship. Normal relationship arguments are like, who's that boy in your DMs? And it's like, who's this? Who's that? You know, what's this? What's that? Why are you not answering my text? It's like, dude.

It's something about YouTube analytics. She's like, why are you so pressed? Who cares? Like, it's okay. We need to go. You don't understand. That's funny. Well, shit, guys.

That might have been our best podcast yet, I think. It honestly was. Best guest podcast. You are the number one guest you are. We have ever had. First and number one. Yeah, thank you for doing this. No problem at all. We had a lot of fun also filming with you guys. We're going to go film another bit now right after this. We're going to ERX, so that's going to be a blast. We got Cletus, the Lay Mullets race. Thank you again for inviting us to be your co-driver. Listen, on that...

When we were deciding, this is like legit. I don't know how you guys take the way I say this, but like when we were deciding to partner who he wanted, first option was because they were in the midst of DMing was T-Pain, but he didn't want to do it. No! T-Pain DMed you? No, we were DMing about my face.

But how that came up, I was like, hey, look, these guys. So like I never we had not even 100K. You guys had just hit a mill. We I was like, these guys took a shot on us and helped us. I feel like going to Cletus and like doing that, like they don't get a chance to go meet a lot of people. They have a great platform.

I feel like this could be a give back for them taking a shot on us when we were at 80k. We really appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Really appreciate it. Get you guys out of Minnesota. You guys are awesome, though, so keep killing it, and let's go have some fun at the track. We're going to the track to figure out who the co-driver is going to be. So it's going to be really good. I have no idea who it's going to be. I honestly hope it's going to be Ken. I hope Ken wins. I think that would be so funny. That would be funny.

The seats wouldn't line up. He's low-key like a wheel man. Like, I feel like he low-key is. I think so. Like, I see the way he, like, throttles up in the Tesla and, like, puts his neck. Ken is like, is this electric? Is this electric? Ken doesn't fuck it if it's... Ken doesn't... Ken doesn't fuck with it if it's not electric. See you guys. See you guys.

Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie. And one thing I've learned is that you buy a house, but you make it a home. Because with every fix, update, and renovation, it becomes a little more your own. So you need all your jobs done well. For nearly 30 years, Angie has helped millions of homeowners hire skilled pros for the projects that matter. From plumbing to electrical, roof repair to deck upgrades. So leave it to the pros who will get your jobs done well. Hi,

Hire high quality certified pros at Angie.com. Today's episode is brought to you by Angie. Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your jobs and projects done well. Let me tell you, there's the version of it where you try to do something at home and then there's a version of it where you have someone help you, you watch them do it the right way and you go, thank God I didn't try to do that myself.

I have fully done things around the home that I think look good and then a bang in the night and I wake up to a shelf collapsing, a painting falling off the wall. Like it, I've seen it all go south. I own a home and I can tell you, I know how much work it can take. Whether it's everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality, it can be hard just to know where to start. But now all you need to do is Angie that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise you need.

Whatever your home project, big or small, indoor or outdoor, you can Angie that and connect with skilled professionals to get the project done well. Right now, one of my wish lists is I want a bike for my condo in Milwaukee and I would love to rig it up on a pulley in the ceiling because I have one of those like lofted ceilings.

but I'm so scared to try that on my own. Angie has 20 years of home experience and they've combined it with new tools to simplify the whole process. Bring them your project online or with the Angie app. Answer a few questions and Angie can handle the rest from start to finish or help you compare quotes from multiple pros and connect instantly, which means you can take care of any home project in just a few taps.

Because when it comes to getting the most out of your home, you can do this when you Angie that. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's A-N-G-I dot com.