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98 - Twitch is Awful ft. Klean & Tweak

Publish Date: 2023/3/23
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- See the best version of it you can buy gives you like four day early access to the game when it launches. - Oh, so you get a- - It's already started. - How much is that? - Paid away, it's like a hundred bucks, I think, yeah. - It's already beginning. It's how the video games, they're like, "We would never do anything like this." - Hogwarts started that.

- No, that's been around for a while. - Is it early access? - Yeah, 100%. - I mean, Battlefield and Cods have been doing that for ages. - Oh my God. - I think when Tarkov actually launches, you guys will have been playing for eight years. - That's optimistic that you think it's only gonna be eight years. - I like that you guys will be like, "Has this never happened?" ♪ Stay alive and rely ♪

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Yeah, blame the ice machine. Welcome to the Unsubscribe Podcast. As always, we have Eli Double Tap and myself, Batty Streams, and our two beautiful, sexy guests. We got Clean, and Eli's running off, and Twink. Fuck you, ice machine. Did you just unplug the ice machine? No, I held the power button. It was trying to make ice. That's all I did. It has one job, and I just canceled it because there's ice in there, and there's no water, and the thing needs to shut up. Okay. Hi. Hey. Hey.

Yeah, good morning. The morning clause. I know. Thank you. My morning, okay. What time did you wake up? 1130. Yeah, fuck you. That's when I woke up. I still woke up in the morning, but it's the afternoon now. Apparently, I'm the old one. What time did you wake up? I was up at 7 today. See, that's where I want to wake up. I'm tired of sleeping in until 1130 noon. I feel like shit every time I wake up.

I think you're in control of that. Fuck you, Cleen. Motherfucker, I'll see you some week. Cleen's live, 3.30 in the morning. I don't want to hear it, man. It's the morning. I'm early, you know? I'm ready.

- I've been ready for the day. - He feels so attacked right now. - I wanna fucking degen schedule. Every one of us has done it. - I want your guys' moto speech. - I wanna go stream for 14 hours. - Nice. - There's a new indie game out. I better play it for 36 hours straight. - Those indie games are good, man, all right? - God, your guys' moto speech would be the best.

When the sun comes up, my eyes are closed. Come to know, I'm crushing that day one video game at a time. I hit that stream button, I go hard. When the sun sets...

My monitor's bright. So this Modo speech, I'm not motivated anymore. I just want to go to bed. That's our major. Tweet just woke up. I was also in the military.

- How many tours you serve in Tarkov? - It's about my ninth wife, dude. - Oh God. - How many wives have we done? - You would remember, I think at this point, right? You probably the only one. - You've definitely got the most out of all of us. - I think it's about 12. I think it's 12 wives. - Since it came out alpha? - Yeah, since it's like been out.

Started like what October of 2017 before before that cause I was playing. It started like access started like July. Yeah, that sounds alright. Yeah. Yeah, cause I missed the Alphiron ban by like three months. Oh well.

Had it I opened the game. I never played during the alpha, but I had it and I opened the game You only need to have an account registered. You didn't need to own the game Because a lot of people are like how do I have this you don't know I guess you made your account way before fucking nerd I know wait for what even know about that game until I park off There's a special item that you get if you've played the game before it was an open beta before everybody else. Mm-hmm

Second our band. Oh cool Like look how old my steam account is literally it's yeah, I'm a six-digit. Yes, oh, yeah, look at my gamerscore guy Like a five digit account or it was like it was like weird It was wild he can't always try to get hacked people trying to buy it off him constantly on Steam. Yeah, when was it?

The year it was created? Oh. Isn't that, because I have my original original one, which I've forgotten and rediscovered. That one was, it had like, call, no, it had day of defeat. Oh. Yeah, it's my old account. It's like orange box Steam account, where you're like, holy shit. When did Steam fucking launch? 2000. I don't believe you. You didn't wizard. I know. That's why. Oh.

I got it. Look it up. Look it up. I don't know. It was before my time. I was gaming on Xbox back then. See, I was too. I didn't get my Steam account until, you know, because I had battled on net fucking, you know, way back. Yeah, you're correct. 12th of September, 2003. Tis and power unite. I hate him. I don't know why I knew that. 20 years.

I mean, yeah, we know what's wrong. I do, unfortunately. Hi, guys. Welcome. I haven't seen. Are you doing MMA again? Are you fighting? No, man. I just had cauliflower my whole life. I've never seen it before. It's just a little bit. I mean, I fought for like five years and trained like hours a day for four and a half years. I know, but usually that's how I always meeting individuals. Oh, they fight or not. Instantly. Like.

- Mine's not super bad. Like actually, unlike most fucking MMA fighters, it drained that shit. - You drained it? - Yeah, drained it and didn't let my ears turn into Cheeto puffs. - Yeah. - But yeah. - I love Cheetos. - The guys that can't even put earbuds, they can't use like earbuds or anything. - They have natural headphones. - Oh, natural headphones. I hate that. - It's like unfixable too, right? - You can get surgery, but it's basically, it's all scar tissue.

- Yeah. - So basically- - Also they're cutting out scar tissue? - Yeah, so basically like you have- - Cardin blood. - This is all cartilage, right? - Yeah. - So it'll break open and then the fluid will come out. And then if you don't drain it, it'll solidify and harden. And it's just basically hard like scar tissue, pus, blood, nastiness. And some people just don't take care of that shit. Like that's also like whenever I had

Bad cauliflower ear like a breakout or I don't even what the fuck you call it I just wear fucking wrestling headgear, so I didn't like make it worse Yeah, but a lot of people do like no it builds character. I'm like yeah builds your ears looking like a fucking idiot With you not taking care of yourself you look like Princess Leia, but with fucking the cones on the side of your head My you see my Cinnabons means I roll hard

Or just drain them. I don't know. Fucking crazy concepts. I'm like, ah. So you guys are playing what? Fuck video games right now. Anime. Well, we'll go back to them. Animates, though. I actually just forgot the name of the show. Tokyo Revenger. No, I've seen that. I've seen all of that shit. The new season? It's out?

The whole se- Oh, see now? He's like, "I seen that." I was like, "The new season?" He's like, "Wait, it's out?" The entire season's out. - Dude, I love that show. - I hate it. - It's a great show. - Dude, the whole season's out. - I gotta watch it. Dude, it's a great show. You're missing out, bro. - It's so good. - It was kids beating the shit out of each other. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's gangs. Beating each other up in Japan. - Oh my God, you said gangs. Okay, nevermind. - Gangs. - Gangs. - I was like,

- I was like, what show did you watch? - What do soccer gangs, Brassica, call themselves? Or it's a club, I don't know. - To close it. - That one is not on Crunchyroll. - They're fighting. - But yeah, that entire season just wrapped up last week. - I didn't even know the new season. - Season two? - Yeah. - Really? - I seen that. - Did you? - Is season two more?

Nevermind almost boy. It's so good season two just so the children beat the shit out of each other every season I think the cool shit. No, they never go to the doll stuff fuck. It's always a bit beating the shit out of each other if you haven't seen it you got to check out ranking of Kings ah Yeah, it honestly like when I first saw it. I'm like this looks like a Disney movie like anime warning

No, but no, legit, like, it's actually like one of the most, like, it's kind of like pretty fucked up. It's pretty fucked up. It like made me cry a couple times. It's a good anime. It's so much heart in it. It's really good. And it gets dark. Like, there's some scenes where it's just like, holy fuck, that's really fucked up. Like, and you wouldn't expect it from the art style at all. Like, it just looks like a nice, like, Disney kind of like anime. Like, no, it's not. It's not fucking happy or nice. It's pretty fucked up. It's drawn completely different. What was the anime with Rem and Ram?

That is because Suzuki, Sabuka is the main character. Why do I remember not that? It was the one. ReZero. Oh, ReZero. Yeah. Like that level of fucked up.

No, not that one. Not that level. It has fucked up stuff, but it's not okay. It gets dark when you don't expect it. It starts pretty dark. You're like, hey, here's the little kid. This doesn't spoil anything. He's deaf, so he can't communicate with others. And it's heartwarming. But he gets picked on too, and you're like, uh-oh. Oh, my heart! A lot of shit happens. When he speaks, he's like, oh.

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We need somebody in the background just doing hands. I love this much. Dude, you know what's really funny? Like back when Sean and I were living in Ireland, we'd be up just like really late at night watching TV. And then after a while, you kind of, you know, you give up on what you're watching. You're on your phone or whatever. Jerk off. Look at the TV. And then the sign language lady would be there in the bottom right corner, which only happens really late at night. We're like sign language ladies on the TV. We should go to bed. That's your indicator.

- Why is that an Ireland thing? - I guess so, for whatever reason they don't think. - I've seen it in the US, no. - Is it like she's on a green screen, like a stream, like she just pops up and she's like. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That would be so weird. - But it's really weird because like the only time she comes on the TV is like five in the morning. So it's like what, deaf people just like up really early or like. - Why are you only here now? - Apparently in Ireland, yeah, I guess so. - Yeah, I never understood that. - Their alarm clocks go off. - Fuck, I wish I had my phone. There was a couple of,

I wish I would have missed it honestly. - He was the first. - No, this is worse though when you're like this. - It's literally like when you're at a funeral and you can't laugh and it's just, yeah. - I hope people laugh at my funeral. - Honestly, I will. - I don't want people crying and being all sad and shit.

Crying and being all sad and shit that's gonna be posters. I don't know he wanted that on the Don't cry and be sad and shit. My dad is gonna mock me openly at my funeral. Idiot he's already dead. Highlife cat comes flying by. Get up loser. Get up loser. My only son. Funerals.

- Oh my God, no, you guys, "Ranking the Kings," that and "New Attack on Titan." - That started, actually it's a really heavy. - I didn't realize there is only two episodes. - Yeah, but they're like an hour and a half each. - Yeah, but the other one does- - It's out? - Only one, only one of the two episodes. - It's supposed to be, it's just two? - I mean, that's what it says online. They're splitting it, the last season, they're splitting it into two long episodes like movies. - Yeah, but it's not the last season 'cause the next part's coming out in like October or something. - So it's part- - Right?

Part 2 to Part 3. Then it's actually Part 4 of the last season. I hate that they did that. Why didn't they just release the episode? 1, 2, 3, 4. They were milking it. If you know what happens, it's weirder when you know what happens. That's why I'm like, they're doing that? It's all caught up. To be fair, it's excellent. Why is it like...

I don't know. Well, they had the huge gap from season one to season...

Attack on Titan when the original season came out forever ago Yeah - and then there was like a five-year gap between season one and season two because they didn't know it was going to take off to the level it did yeah that's why the ending of it changed - that show was gonna be way darker imagine I also heard the ending got spoiled somewhere online the manga got leaked and then they had to change it as I read this like a couple years ago, but I really heard the manga got leased and I

the ending got spoiled for like a ton of people and they had to rewrite it because

Spoiler. That might not be true. I don't know. That one, this was 2016. I remember reading that it's like, hey, when you start saying dates, because I know they're true and it makes me mad that you can just pull a fucking number out your head. So back in 2016, April 15th. I'm here like every single day, like start streaming. I go get my water. I come back, let the first song finish, go full cam. Hey!

How's it going everybody? Hope everybody's having a good... Click the calendar. Wednesday! Have a good Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday. It's one of those three, I think. Let's go. I just say hope your day is good. This motherfucker's like... I'm gonna steal that.

November 2016 at 4.30 p.m. It was a Wednesday. Ryan gives me the day. Ryan's like, I was on Wednesday, Daddy. Okay, Joe, thank you. But then in 2016, the anime did so good that they switched the ending because it was supposed to be a lot darker ending.

So they made it nicer. They were like, okay, we got to make this longer. It was supposed to be a lot shorter too. And they're like, we got to change stuff. We got to make it longer. And we had to rotate the ending because it's making money. It's printing dollar bills now. What made attack on Titan blow up suddenly? It was,

Weebs and it was so different to be fair. There was like a big surge of people taking interest in like on a man stuff Yeah, that was like when I was in high school if you watched anime like you're the kid that ate like the cafeteria food and like played Magic the Gathering in the back I know exactly we're talking about there was the group of kids that it was like they smelled like salty They were always like make it out with each other in the corner to say like rawr and then growl at you and shit Yeah, like no, but like

The thing is, I had Asian babysitters growing up, and they would make me watch anime. And that's how I got into it. I watched Akira. Indoctrination. Nice. Yeah, indoctrination. They would punish me by making me use chopsticks and picking up hundreds of grains of rice and moving them from one...

Plate to another are you this is Japanese I Chinese and they're like oh you've been bad okay get chopstick you take rice and you move to your plate and I'm like okay, and I'm like I'd be really bad, but dude I'm fucking really sick at using chopsticks now like I I embarrass people like you know how to use chopsticks. I'm like fuck

I do. I can't eat chopsticks in my life. I practice every time and I'm like, I've broken my hands so many times. They're like, this doesn't work. Anyway, they got me into anime like Princess Mononoke, Akira. Those were really the first animes that I watched and that's what got me into it. In high school, I kind of relate to those kids and I would actually go back and I'd play Magic with them because I liked Magic back then. I had a pretty sick mana ramp there.

back in the day back in 2013 bro you are in trouble you get the grain of rice now move it from here to here cartoon please tell us more about your childhood it was a trauma though i learned a lot man like i just picture you like watching princess okay you're doing it blindfolded uh-huh

I just picture you turning to your babysitter and you're like, "Arigato." Cause I'm just like, "We are Chinese. What the fuck you talking about? That's Japanese." And you're like, "Kominazai." And you just move on from there.

I tweak is the least comfortable. Yeah, it's just you know it's early Thing in your brain. It's like don't say that don't say that you're gonna get constant. You're gonna get sick. It's that's what this is for That's why Joe sits over here like last time. Yeah She like that girlfriend and the boys. She's just like texting you like angry text messages like you better not say that

She just sends emojis. She speaks in emojis. It's like this. Angry face emoji. The one with the thing over the mouth. Or a zipper mouth. It's like. It's funny, like sometimes on stream, like we're talking about something kind of controversial. She like messes me on Discord. She goes, okay, let's move on.

- And I'm like, you know what? Yeah, that's a good call. - That's fair, that's fair. - Yeah, the little angel on the shoulder, it's like, hey, hey, no, no, no. - Mine died. - I'm like so open about anything on my channel for the most part. Like I like, my rule is basically like if I'm involved and I'm talking about it, Jack can talk about it. But if I'm done talking about it and like I'm back on the game

focusing like you guys better shut the fuck up so fucking we're done that's the problem because that shit will go on if you don't stop it if I don't pay attention for 20 minutes I'm like these guys are still talking about this they'll be going at it like rabid dogs people have been buying like

Funny enough, I'm pretty grateful for my little community on Twitch because a lot of my people will respectfully disagree and they don't get... I always tell them, hey, prison rules. Call each other a bitch. Don't only shank each other if nobody's looking. It's fine. We can usually have these kind of conversations and people

give different viewpoints, but not be like, fuck you. I hate you. I'm never talking again. I'm not associating with you anymore. Like, fuck you. Like you're I'm done. Oh, you know, but like we get people like, oh, okay. Agreed to disagree. All right, let's move on. Clean. Didn't want to talk about this anymore. All right. That's cool. You know, and like unfollow. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm going to unfollow you and leave right now. Okay. Yeah. It's like user has been a while. What's up? This is yesterday. You unfollow me when you're back with us.

Those guys are weird. They act like they're basically the most important person that is watching you. And they're like, you're going to be so sad. What are you going to do without me and my follow? I'm sorry, David63442. And gone. I don't know you anymore. I swear to God, if somebody's going to make a David6334242 profile in my goddamn chat tomorrow, I'm going to be like, hey man, come on, son. It doesn't exist. There's no way. I'm telling you right now.

- Show up tomorrow. - They'll find a way. - Someone will have it. - I hope the account's 14 years old or some shit too. They'll be like, "Yeah, I made this way back when. "It's so crazy, man." - Been waiting for the same. - It's been four days of recording emails for this moment. - Like, "No." - Eli? - Yep. - Eli? - You wanna know how to have better sex?

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BAM! Head over to AdamandEve.com and use code UNSUB. U-N-S-U-B. AdamandEve.com. Code UNSUB right now. Did you guys, are you watching the, what's it called? My Hero Academia? Yeah, actually, I'm pretty much caught up on, I got to the episode with the sniper bitch. Oh, yeah. They're that far into fucking anime right now?

I gave up. - I'm honestly, I'm glad because Deku isn't a whiny little bitch anymore. He's actually like kind of in his emo phase. - So I've heard all the manga. - That changes. - Yes. - Deku's on horror mode right now. - He's in emo, like I'm gonna kill everybody phase. It's actually kind of nice. - Dude, he got to like episode 90. I was like, I'm over it.

So, yeah, that's his character. He's 14 years old, 15 years old. I don't care. He just got the best powers in the goddamn world, which you don't even know him. The majority of the powers yet, which is more dope. You don't even understand. And then when he goes hard because he doesn't want anyone to get hurt anymore, he's just like, I'm doing this shit solo. And he's just like walking around just a fucking hard ass. And he's beating the top.

bad guys instantly. There's no, like he's going, oh my. My favorite thing is seeing how animated Eli gets. You're like, nah, I gave up. He's like, what are you doing? I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying like. You didn't agree though. Tui gets thrown into the camera. Yeah, yeah. I have a full back piece of Eli.

Don't just just fucking spite him you're gonna hate Tokyo Revenger cuz that character also is yeah It's why I already watched like I think like I made it into like six episodes of Tokyo Go I was like I can't do it any Tokyo Go fell off for me like I watch one in second season and third season. I'm like what what is going on? I'm like what happened like it's it's like I

He's not even the same character anymore. Wait, you say second and third season are bad? No, first and second are the good ones. First and second were good. And the third season, I'm just like, what happened? He's whiny on the beginning of the first season. He breaks at the end of it, though. And when his... One of the best credit scenes, because it's when he finally is snapped. This isn't... That show's old as shit. So spoilers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he's got to talk about the ending of Game of Thrones at this point. Tortured, tortured. So he's getting because he can regenerate. He's like bones cut off, looms cut off, regenerating. This happens. He's just tortured. And then he stops caring and all his powers unlock. And he is savage. Like, so just watch the first two seasons and then. Yeah, then just first two. Yeah, OK. I think the only reason I've been able to watch Demon Slayer is because how good the animation is. Beautiful.

Because what's his fucking name? The story is very like no no character. What's his fucking name? Oh long guy. Yeah, I like that guy's funny. He's really It's literally his voice the entire time until he falls asleep then he's fucking a pig man. Yes, okay Yeah, I know scare I love that's my Bit blonde guys that that second season. I'm sorry like it was fine. I

Until like the last few episodes where like I swear to God like 50% of the episode was that one dude's like three wives or three girlfriends just crying all the time. I thought it was amazing the whole time. It was pretty good, but I get what you mean. They were kind of irritating. They just had like boobs and stuff. Yeah, what's wrong with boobs and stuff? Please, both of you, tell me what's wrong with boobs and air.

anime. I would laugh my ass off if instead of the spinny guy, instead of it's a guy, it's a girl and it's three dudes with huge dong and balls. And they're just saying, yeah, they're like, oh, I miss her. It's like, okay, now this is weird. I get what y'all are saying.

- When you reverse gender, it's just exactly really weird disturbing animation. - Okay, we'll boost. - Like six of them. - So it wasn't huge dongs. - Just throbbing. - You wanna say throbbing? - You guys have some artists that watch this, right? - Oh yeah. - Yeah, emails. - Reddit. - Don't, no. - Our next shirt.

Unsubscribe except the censored version is on whatever website and then bunker uncensored version is on the patreon. Oh Through the patreon be so rough the that manga goes that has two more seasons I think yeah, there's definitely an ending to it. Oh that one goes. Yeah, it's already wrapped in the manga. So that's over Yeah, yeah demon slayers over. It's been over for a year two years now that one's on the last I

leg of it and that one also goes really hard it's still in very much uh pg-13 mode uh yeah that one goes hard speaking of pg-13 i'm still waiting for i'm waiting for the new season of spikes family i love that anime it's really good uh i haven't finished it yet it's really good it's very like it's very like it's it's pg it's fun but damn it it's just a good anime it's really fun yeah it's a good one it's just it's

You watched the entirety of it? It's so fun. That's the one I think I suggested to you. That was one I was telling everyone. I was like, hey, intro to anime. This is a fantastic anime just to get people into. The family orientation of it, the comedy, the art style, the action. It looks great. Yeah. It's animated like...

GG the little daughter. I'm like oh god. It's so heart. Oh, she's cute Video games no fuck that we're talking about twitch. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I forgot you guys yet the president stepped down fuck that Fuck you. Yeah, this morning all over shit today social media wait

Because I've met him a couple is either long hair or is he like the hipster looking guy? Yes Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, no I've actually had like lunch with him a couple times at and then Dan's taking over as CEO Yeah He was the one that Loco did a big interview with a couple years back when fuck

All the added or the subsplit stuff happened. And he was just like, nah. And he's like, your community? It wasn't good. And he's now the CEO, I guess. He's taken it as of...

Earlier today the main CEO of twitch step down. Yeah, I'm sure This actually yeah, that's what I was like damn today. Oh he stepped down So that's that's how he's like see we fired him everything stays the same. That's business world That's what they're doing everything stays the same or it gets worse. Yes It's gonna get worse 100% there's no way like so

Twitch made an ad incentives program, which was supposed to incentivize creators to run their own ads. Fuck you, viewers.

Legitimately, yeah. And the program started out by actually paying creators decent money. Yeah, no, it was good. So, like, full transparency. It was a guaranteed bit of money. When it started, and this was right around, like, when my contract ended with Twitch, I would average, like, 2,500 viewers. If I ran, like, six minutes of ads for 160,000. Per hour, by the way. Six minutes per hour. Per hour. 160 hours streamed or so. They'd pay me, like, $15,000 to $20,000. Yeah. Which is, like,

I mean, hey, that's more ads than I've ever played in the past. - Per month. - Per month, yeah. - And that's on top of what I make for subs and everything else. So just flat rate, boom, good. So starting this year, same exact viewership, everything.

190 hour streams, nine minutes of ads, $9,000. Holy shit, baby. You have to be super careful with your ad incentive thing because I've seen a lot of people do this where like they'll go, oh my God, that number is really high. I could run eight minutes of ads for this one month and just...

That's it. No, it keeps going up. It keeps going up. Yeah, if you do that, you're fucked because your option for doing three, four minutes of ads an hour, you'll never get that again. It is gone forever. Kiss that shit goodbye. I've done six minutes one time. Otherwise, I've done five minutes every time and...

My rates have gone from like my first few were like five grand, four grand. I was like, fuck, dude, this is awesome. Then it was like two grand. And then it was like a grand. And as of yesterday, they changed the incentives program. So you're no longer getting a guaranteed rate. They're like, we're going to give you estimated.

And we're going to give you a range. You could make $300. You could make $700. You could make, and then your next one will be like $600 to $900. Last one was $600 to $1,200 for me. It's like, why is an ad incentive like rerolling a stat in an RPG?

- It really fucking is. - It's RNG. - You're getting RNG. - As he was saying that, I remembered, like I was playing Diablo 3 the other night and I was re-rolling my squirts necklace trying to get the highest crit damage on it I could. I was like, that is so fucking stupid. - You guys are RNG rolling. - Isn't this a business? - And there's no visibility into it. It's like, why? And then somebody saying literally within five average viewers of me, same size partner,

Numbers completely fucking different. Somebody else averaging way more viewers than me has the exact same numbers as me. You don't think they have like an algorithm to check to see how much you say fucking cunt. They absolutely have an algorithm. It's AI. It's all AI in general. You don't give a fuck about it. That's the problem. Yeah, you guys have fun with that. Yeah, no, I'm screwed. If it goes that way and it's like, this channel isn't ad friendly or whatever like YouTube is now, it's like... Eli. Eli, wake up.

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Rarely get strike or night strikes. We don't get yellows and especially recently recently we've been great. Yeah, but now I shouldn't have said the C word. I'm sorry. You can't say that on YouTube anymore. I'm sorry. I still say it. Fluck will take care of it. Yeah, that's the one word you can't say. Saying literally saying is like saying the N word on YouTube now. Yeah, it literally they have it written out is like don't say these three words and they're yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's not even like we shouldn't. That's a literal thing for me to do. Put a bunch of pussies. Yeah, 100%. Put a bunch of... Well, I think you can say it because it's weird too because Australia can say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what's... It's that weird skirting the line recently.

- I have never said that word as like an insult to a woman. It's always a term of endearment or like the other one is like, you know, when somebody is like fucking around, like, ah, he's being a bit of a, you know? - Yeah, yeah, of course. - But it's not like, you know, yeah. - You dumb. - Yeah, exactly. - You like to censor yourself for the first time? - Oh, that was wild. And on that of all things. - I know, I don't know.

And then I just blelt out the rest of it. But it's so Twitch, I don't know.

I never know on the censorship or whatever. I know there's the ad with music. There was that bad part. And then that, yeah, that went away. It's not even that big of a deal. It's really not. No, it's not. People blew it up out of proportion because they didn't understand it. I've never gotten a strike. I have not stopped playing music that is copyrighted the entire time. Do you still get your VODs muted? Every now and then, but not bad. Really not. The only thing that irritates me about that is like whenever you get a muted VOD, you have to like,

Republish all your VODs and like a name. Oh, you can there's a thing to turn that off So it doesn't do that anymore. You don't use the separate audio things. No, no, I don't give a shit No, oh, I've been doing that for years. Yeah, it's been great. No, I don't if you pull the music out of my stream suddenly It's not fun anymore

People who watch VODs then just see silent bullshit. They say you're not your head to silence like no I Will not do this. I want to party he's hitting the parties like No, I'm not gonna fucking I've never got a strike yeah

- Yeah. - I've never even got a warning. - You know why that is? I reckon like all the people that were getting strikes that time, it's probably because they were listening to some top 10 track. - That's what we said. - Yeah, that's exactly what it is. - Top 100s. - Don't listen to country. Don't listen to your top 100. And be careful with rap and hip hop and some old classic rock. - Yeah, basically like Metallica. - Yeah, just exactly. - Some Metallica too. I have it on my playlist.

- Really? - Yeah. - That's surprising, 'cause they're, yeah. - Metallica's gonna come in and sue you. - I have a song with Ronnie by Metallica. It's one of their old lightning, it's fucking awesome. Great suit and awesome riff. But all this is is knowing which labels are going to come after you. Sony, BMG, Universal, and then there's another really bad one.

As long as you're not playing songs owned by them, it doesn't matter. A lot of punk rock, a lot of metal, a lot of independent artists who have made their own labels, they've come out and said, "Play our music. We don't give a fuck." Just because music is copyrighted or somebody else owns the rights to that music doesn't mean you can't play it. Just 'cause you don't have permission by those rights doesn't mean you can't play it. It all depends on if they're gonna come after you. Whoever owns that music is gonna come after you. - Yeah.

Sure, VOD muting can happen because it's all AI. But like, it's very like I get the smallest segments of like seven hour VODs. I'll have 20 combined minutes, 30 combined minutes of mute out of that. It is wild how quick YouTube's on that shit too. Because like we had a vlog where we went to Austin last week or week before whenever it was to go see Muse. It was like amazing. We were recording at Terry Black's barbecue and there was like a song playing in the background.

caught it immediately. Well, their AI is way better than Twitch's. Oh, yeah. And then like 10 second clips of the concert immediately. Yeah, you can't go 10 seconds. You have to do five seconds and under. And even then it's better with music. It's just do not fuck around. Use epidemic. Have that link to your account. That way you have all your ad, your...

music you pay for, your sound effects, and then it's good to go. - I just didn't monetize it. - Yeah. - Just, yeah. 'Cause they let it be if you don't wanna monetize it, right? - But it will not get the push reach, so I'm assuming that one didn't get the views. - Yeah, it's not gonna be shared. - Yeah, whatever, it's fine.

Which is one reason why we're always fighting. Like, when you see an episode, instead of coming out on Wednesday, it's a Thursday or Friday episode. Usually, we'll have one that's flagged, and we just have to put it into review. And then we have to wait those 24 hours to get an episode reviewed. Just so YouTube can be like, oh, never mind, you're good. And then we'll post late, but...

That's all because if we don't do that and it gets demonetized or it gets limited monetization, it no longer gets any reach. They will not share it. Half your subscribers will not see the episode. - It dies instantly. The view count is like, "What?" - It just drops off. - And it's a wall, a wall. And they're like, "We don't," and they say-- - You don't have to share shit. That's not making them money. - But they say they do.

They literally, that's what's the best part. They like, it doesn't limit your reach at all. And it's like weird. Cause everyone has proof that it literally, it's like IgE saying we don't shadow ban. Like didn't they come out and say they do now though? No, they can't. Facebook straight up said that when like last year it was a whole thing. It was all over the internet.

Oh, yeah. No, we do that now. Some guy came on my channel yesterday. He's like, bro, I think your shadow ban on Instagram. I'm like, did you spell it right? And he's like, oh yeah, my bad. Shit is a K. Micah is, I had to type out Micah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Full name. I was like, but Grant has popped up. I was like,

And I know he's shadow banned, but I think just because his is so used, it's like, okay, this is going to pop up no matter what. Versus Michael. He's also been completely wiped like three times now. Isn't it like any gun content on Instagram? Gun, knife, fantasy weapons now are also added onto that list. Yeah.

Also, fuck all the cosplayers then. Yeah, that was the big thing. They're like, oh, we can't cosplay. That's so lame. You should be scared, so we're going to hide it from you. Yeah, meta. So Facebook and IG, that is how that is. And that is that. It doesn't really matter because you can't post photos anymore on Instagram. Oh, God.

Can't post gun. And then they're very weird on some of those videos I did with Brandon with like PPU, the call of duty skits. - Oh, you're pretending to hold a gun. - Yeah, some went, some got flagged as no, you have to delete this. And some were like, okay. Like the one where Brandon's shooting people. - It's just like, it's so back and forth. Like I've had TikToks get millions of views of me just at the range. And then to get one like at the range, same range actually.

And it gets shadow banned. Didn't you get one that got pulled because you were... It was like a sniper meme, Tarkov video, right? Yeah, it was a Tarkov meme. You were sitting there. I had to lower the gun more and more and more until it was really hitting you. You saw the buttstock and that was it right here. Yeah, but then I have a fucking video of me mag dumping an AK and it's just like 4 million views. Here you go. What the fuck, man? They are very...

sexual harassment. Sav gets slapped with that. If me and her do anything where I like that video, she just posted, I grab her boob. Cause I'm like, stop. And I grab her boob and they're like unwanted touch and sexual harassment. I'm like, what? That was, and she's like instantly flagged, flagged, flagged. You never grab my boob anymore. Can.

- They're turning into pecs now. You used to when they were luscious tits. - I wanted to grab them, now they're turning into pecs. - They're definitely not turning into pecs. - I don't want them anymore. - I still have not been with you. - Lovely, bonk and boobas, dude. - I still got mine, dude. - Oh, God. - Still got a bit going on. - Well, pull the shirt tight, let me see them. - But how much have you lost? - I am fucking-- - How much have I lost? - Wait. - So like the day before I moved here, I was 273 pounds.

And now... - You may have moved to America and lost weight. - As of yesterday, I'm 235. - Hell yeah, brother. - Don't know how that happened. Moved here, lost weight. That's incredible. - Well, it's 'cause like, you know, like... - It's 'cause when you moved your car... - Oh, 'cause I'm not miserable anymore. Oh, it makes so much sense now. - Weird depression. - Oh, wild. - Ireland's so happy. - I was like, I wanna move to Ireland so bad. What, so you can take antidepressants for the rest of your life?

- It's rainy and cloudy, there's no sun, we're all sad. - Honestly, it's been like that here though, I'm not gonna lie. - It's been beautiful the last couple weeks. - Have you looked outside today? - Right now. - It is infinitely better since I've moved here than it's ever been in Ireland. - I believe you. - In Ireland, it literally rains every day, except for like three weeks in the summer. - Seattle. - Yeah, it's Seattle. - Holy fuck, did you guys, did you see the storm that hit Dallas last week?

- Like rainstorm, thunderstorm? - Yeah. - Was that the one where there was a tornado warning in Austin? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Holy, so I was driving Dallas for like an event, like a content creation event in Dallas and find out like halfway through, oh yeah, there's gonna be a storm that's hitting Dallas. I'm like, oh, whatever, I'll drive through the storm. Not a big deal. It's gonna be rain.

Right before we get to Dallas, like tornado warnings and all this shit. We're like, oh, we can't turn around now. It's been four hours. We got to get to the hotel. As we're driving through the highway in Dallas, the thunderstorm hits, the rain hits. I can barely see four feet in front of my truck. Like then lightning strikes start hitting all over Dallas. Transformer, like it was like driving through a movie. A transformer blew next to our truck. Neon green. It was like boom.

Dallas downtown goes black in front of us. And I saw like 20 plus transformers blow just one after the other down the highway. It was the wildest shit. I have tase in the passenger seat. Like it was, it was genuinely terrifying. I was like, just keep driving. Just gotta keep driving. Just gotta keep driving. That's like the average road trip at home. Holy shit, man. Can't see anything. Like Dallas was just pitch black and I'm just driving through a hurricane at this point. Pretty sketch. The weather's been getting really intense lately.

I like that. So one way to say it, it's getting intense. It's all over the place. A little crazy. Snowing in LA. It hailed here two weeks ago. Hey, you guys remember when I was on the podcast last time? We're like, we're not talking about the weather. Fuck. We're talking about the weather. Fuck. Twitch. Sorry, where were we? Oh yeah, you guys can go on. So now there's the new ad incentive to run ads for...

As long as you guys want, which fucks over the viewer, barely incentivizes you guys. It's literally opposite effect. You're like, okay, now I have to run more ads to not get paid as much and screw over my viewer. I think destroying your more than anything. I run my channel a lot differently than a lot of people on Twitch. So I run no notifications, no text to speech and healing. Literally nothing shows up on the screen. I just,

Hey, dude, thanks for the sub. Thank you. I read their message. Oh, you killed your notifications, too? I've been doing that for years. No, you have a pop-up. It's your little clean logo. It's been gone for years, bro. Fuck you. I just reached out like a month ago. I swear to God it was there. There's just no sound with it. No, nothing shows up. I have nothing that shows up on the screen. And the main reason I do that is because ads are becoming so intrusive on the platform. I want the only interruption to the content to be an ad.

But at this point, the ads themselves are starting to get like really fucked up where it's like I don't even want to play them anymore to make money because it's literally like turning away my viewers. Yeah. Oh, no, it's scary. It's pushing people away at this point. Yeah, no, it is. It's making people not want to watch and not want to get involved in the content. And subscribing has become more so about not seeing ads than getting the emotes, being a part of the community, being a part of the subscribers. Absolutely. Which fucking sucks because that's what it should be about.

But it's doing the opposite, right? Because everyone's seeing more of a dip in subs and viewers. What do you think on that? Because I'm seeing a dip in subs. I'm pretty, pretty average there, but I'm seeing them. I mean, everybody's seeing a massive dip in viewers. Yeah. It's time of the year. Twitch is just seeing a massive drop off of COVID. Yeah.

Done. Yeah. And nobody's online. It's still a pandemic, Patty. Dr. Fauci told me that we should still wear masks. Okay. So like. I still get caught off guard by that stuff still to this day. It's like, what? You still think it's happening? Motherfucker. Everybody's back at work. Fucking. Yeah. Everybody's outside partying. People aren't living on online like they were 2020, 2021, where when everybody on Twitch saw a massive spike. Everyone. Literally like blew up and.

So everyone's seeing a drop in viewership, but it feels even worse than that now that you're pushing ads. Like I can't go watch people anymore. I can't like if I'm not subbed to them, I will not watch them. - I just say get Twitch Turbo, bro.

It's nine bucks a month. Yeah. Oh, they don't they don't advertise it anymore. You have to know you literally have to Google search it. Yeah. You have to go to Twitch, Turbo and Google and then the page will pull up. But you cannot go to Twitch and click on anything that will take you to Twitch Turbo. Yeah. People know it's nine bucks a month. You get no ads on any channel ever. Do you remember a couple of months where they decided to let partners go into any stream without getting ads and then they took it away? Remember that?

Yeah, because we're watching streams all the time. Thanks, Twitch. You know, because there's literally no fucking reason to be a partner right now. In fact, you're actively fucking yourself over by being a Twitch partner. You're better off not becoming fucking affiliated and then you stream on everything all the time. It's the way to do it because you're neutering your discoverability. Hey, Braddy, guess who's been making knives since 1974? Is it Karsha? It is.

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Yeah. Yeah. Twitch ads, man. Pre-rolls, mid-rolls. It's like being able to run three minutes of ads an hour. If it gets rid of pre-rolls, I'm fine with that. 100%. I've been doing that anyways since before Ad Incentive. But like the incentive program is just like,

We don't want you to do that. 10 plus minutes of ads an hour. That's ridiculous. It's so stupid. Imagine this is worse than like cable TV. Cable TV had your what? 30 seconds of ads to one minute. Oh, it was bad. No, no, no. One to two. Well, okay. An average program was 20 minutes per half an hour. 24 minutes was your average television show, but it had a 30 minute runtime. So six minutes per 30 minutes or 12 minutes.

So it's standard TV and you can't skip or anything like that where YouTube is. YouTube is nice because it's five seconds, but then it's skip or it's like two, ten, five second and skip, skip. Yeah. Twitch is premium. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Can't do it. Yeah. But Twitch is like, watch this.

Watch this and then you guys are getting hate because I was reading your eyes as replies on your tweets or where people were like Yeah, your life's so hard. Oh my god. I'm like, I don't think people are realizing this is fucking over the viewer and not It's fucking over everyone but mainly the viewer people don't even realize what that when when you share add-ins end of stuff They're like, oh you're getting 300 to 600 dollars an hour for your ads. It's like no

No, you're fucking stupid, man. You're literally a fucking idiot. If you don't understand it, don't talk about it. That's my biggest thing. So many people on social media just love to, fuck, I gotta get involved. I don't know what's going on, but I'm mad. Shut the fuck up. Christ. So many people, I shared my incentive stuff this last one because of how abysmal it was. Like the worst it's ever been.

And people are just like, I don't know what you're complaining about. These look like great numbers compared to what I've seen. I'm like, compared to your affiliate friend with two viewers, yeah, you're right. I'm just in the top...

0.1% of Twitch and my numbers are lower than they've ever been and they're lower than people who are doing worse than me in some cases and also other people are getting zero numbers and just percentages. Some people don't even see their numbers. Yeah, like me. I only have percentages on mine. I didn't even see like a numerical value. They're just like, you'll get anywhere from like 55% to like 65% or something like that and like that's what I chose and I'm like,

it's all this it's like four six oh no no it was it was six eight and nine minutes and it was all the same percentage yeah and i was like i don't know what this means

- When you're giving a percentage based off of time, that doesn't do it. - It doesn't tell me if I'm making more money. It's like I'm getting-- - 'Cause it's not giving you a CPM. It's not giving you anything where it's like, well, this is, it's just a percent based off of a number. - I just chose the six minutes 'cause I'm like, you know what? Nine minutes, even eight minutes, it's way too fucking much. - It's too much. - That's too many fucking ads. - Dude, fucking six minutes is too much. I did six minutes one time.

Normally ads when you stream Tarkov is not bad, because you can run ads when you're loading into raids. - Or in your stash. - Or in your stash, and it's not a huge deal. Trying to maintain six minutes of ads while running raids fairly quick was rough. People were missing the first three minutes of a raid or the end of a raid. They would just miss it because it would roll over.

Like you actively have to be done what you're doing within 16 or 17 minutes. So you cannot take more than 16 or 17 minutes in a raid. Because I was running mine every 18 and a half minutes. That was my cycle when I was doing like five minutes. So I bumped to six and I was like, oh, now you have to do even more. So your time shrinks, obviously.

And that's Tarkov. Tarkov's an easy game to run ads in. Imagine if you're trying to play a Battle Royale. - Dude, I'm playing DayZ. That shit doesn't stop. - No, it doesn't stop. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm doing Destiny right now.

People just come in like, I don't know what you just said. I missed it. I forget to keep track of when my ads play because I just let the manager run. I'll be responding and talking to people and just do my streamer thing. And then people like, oh, bro, fucking ads playing in here. And I just like explained or answered a question. I'm just like, motherfucker. Like, that's so irritating. Dude, that is the worst. Somebody comes in, they ask a question. And then as soon as you go to answer it,

They get a fucking ad. Or even once a pre-roll hits and then your ad hits them, it's like... Yeah. And it's just like... And then you've already explained it and then they're like, oh, hey, sorry, ad. And you're like, what the fuck was I saying? And then you're just pissed off. Yeah. It's, yeah. It's some bullshit. It's some bullshit. The head kick, guys. Yeah, who wants to fucking stream Pornhub, guys? Yeah.

Oh, man. Have you heard of Kick? I know. I've heard of it. I still keep up to date with this. I just don't give a shit. I'm very simplistic. I'm like, it's like Twitch for me right now. I'm like, I will stream on these days for two hours. I do not.

have numbers up i don't know how many viewers i have i have none of that ever i i get a check now yeah i'm just i'm like i don't give a fuck about any of this i just want to have a good time that's kind of my mentality at this point like i mean i've still always made great money doing what i do even after i switched from tarkov to variety and like i was still making great money yeah that's basically what i do it's like i don't i i leave all my numbers up so like i see everything that changes absolutely you can't go up and down because it doesn't fuck with me

- I don't let it fuck with me. I know other streamers where like they have to hide everything. They can't see it. - Hey, you better turn off your view cap because it's destroying your mental. No, you are letting it destroy your mental bro. Like it's you that's on you bro. - Who are you? - It's because a lot of people can't handle the fact that like, just because they measure these numbers based on their mental happiness and success, they get dopamine off of that shit. But they refuse to admit that.

They refuse to. - That doesn't affect me, but it does make me sad when it drops below this number. - I get zero joy from it though. Just not happy. - No, exactly. You know, a lot of creators I think could really learn from that. I'm not trying to say like I'm putting myself on a pedestal or anything, but just like we are so lucky to be able to even make $1,000 a month playing fucking video games.

Being able to enjoy what we do. Where you could be making that much doing a fucking retail job at Target instead and hate your fucking life. Yeah. And a lot of people, I think, they just take that shit for granted. And they get so stuck on the high of dopamine of like seeing the sub count, the view count go up and all that kind of shit. Which again, you get dopamine from that. You get dopamine from everywhere on social media. That's just how it works.

But people need to fucking dial it back and look in the mirror for a second and realize how good you actually have it. And also people can't like, there's going to be two takeaways from this also, which is it's like, oh, you guys play video games and you're bitching about ad revenue. But as you're saying, it's also it's like,

We know we're extremely lucky. Also, it took fucking hard work to get to the position. Social media is not easy. - It's almost seven years now for me, dude. - If you think it's easy, try to build a social media following on any platform, on any fucking platform and have engagement. That is the most difficult thing. YouTube, completely separate from Twitch.

You could just buy views. I hear that's great to do. And then you have zero engagement. You look like a fucking fool. Oh, yeah. There's a couple people that I've seen in dark op categories where it's like they have 4,000 viewers. Bro. Then you see the Twitch chat. It's all in meds now. It's like...

Every day. Every single day. This is on Fast Chat. What is that? It doesn't move. But the thing is what makes me wonder too is like, did those motherfuckers actually get ad revenue for that? If it's in bed, they do. Really? Now we're thinking. It's like...

- Well, now it's not gonna matter. - Oh yeah, with the new program they've changed that and beds no longer matter. - The thing is, is they still give contracts to like the 0.01 percenters. - Oh yeah, absolutely. - And they get paid really good money just for running a set amount of ads and they don't even, they don't get the ad instead of program because they're paid via contract. - They just let their shit run. It doesn't matter to them. They don't need to plan that shit anymore. It's over. - I mean, you know, good for them. But again, it's like,

- The smallest group. - .01. - It's literally the smallest percentage of streamers, like maybe a couple hundred on the entire platform of tens of thousands that are partners.

Like 60,000 partners, I think, in all of Twitch right now. Yeah, I think so. Back in my fucking day when I first got partnered. 20,000, 30,000, right? Probably like 12. I had to maintain 550 to 650 viewers for 60 days straight. No breaks. I remember when Deadly got it. No breaks, dude. You had to fucking grind your ass off. And one that I got, I had a PayPal donation and I had subscribers. That was fucking it. That was it.

And then Twitch Prime came in, gifted subs, bits. - And then affiliate, yeah, no affiliate. I started streaming literally right as the affiliate program hit. That just was like, oh cool, this is a thing now. - Yeah, I mean people have- - Like a week into streaming for me. - Way more opportunities to grow on the platform than they ever have had in the past. - Absolutely. - Because before it's just like, and back then the platform was smaller too. Like if you had 10,000 viewers on the platform, you were the top streamer at the time. Now like,

The top streamers have like 70, 80, up to 100,000 viewers. Got an event going on and 2 million people watching a category, 3 million people watching a category. Props, fucking game awards. I remember when Dr. Disrespect broke the record, like 60,000 live viewers. And everyone was like, when it first came back and they were like, holy shit. The PUBG days made, like that was Twitch's gold era. Yeah.

Like everything changed when PUBG and Fortnite was the follow on when PUBG obviously now it's just bots. And then Tarkov really took off after that.

- Our team's in such a bad spot right now. - Dude. - It's bad. - All that, I... - I can play it maybe an hour if that. - I just don't play it. - I just don't, dude. - I tip my hats to you guys. Like even Cod at this point, I'm like,

- Well, it's easier 'cause I'm just going on to play, get a couple of dubs and then I'm off. And then people are like, "When are you doing this or this?" I'm like, "Oh, I'm not, I don't." - If you think I gave two shits about this- - You wanna try this challenge mode on Tarkov? No. - I've literally never, I've never done a Tarkov challenge because-

The only time I feel like people start doing those is because they are starved for content and the game cannot provide enough enjoyment from just being what it is. People have to make up their own fucking rules in order to have fun with the game again. Granted, I'm not talking shit about those people. It's more of a diss on the game than anything. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. I just couldn't do that. For me, it's just like, man, I'd rather just go play another fucking video game at this point instead of making up rules that nobody else follows. And playing the exact same game

That's 10,000 plus hours. We're all 10,000 plus hours on Pericup at this point. Y'all. Y'all.

This is the Tarkov side of the table. I tried to do a hardcore account at one point. I think it was because... No, I remember this. We hit a donut goal for like a charity incentive for like St. Jude one year. And I said, I'd do a hardcore account for a week. It was the most miserable... You gave up on it, right? No, I didn't even finish the week. I think I made like three days. At one point, I got a good kit and I had like one 20 round mag in my SVD.

And I reloaded it somewhere and the mag like clipped through the floor and it was gone. And you just deleted it. That was it. That was the turning point. I was like, no, I'm over this. Fuck this. Yeah. Alt F4. Delete the gear. Dude, I don't know how deadly does it.

It blows my mind. He's gotten Kappa on hardcore accounts and shit. Not that he's the only one who's done it, but dude. Deadly and Markstrom are the two to me. They live for those hardcore challenges. You know what? They enjoy that shit. Good on them. I don't know how the fuck they can do that stuff. Playing Destiny right now has been the most fun I have had on Twitch in probably two years. That day one raid.

That was... Yeah, you guys did that whole thing. 17 hours. Well, it took us 15 hours and like 48 minutes total. Something like that, yeah. Yeah. We were like the 11,000th clear.

Think so yeah, which is kind of cool. Yeah, I mean to be fair like it was the easiest day one raid that they've ever released but like it's still for a team made up of people that have never played together before and We also weren't the most geared It was cool. Yes, destiny to earn is no goes through they release new raids like think of World of Warcraft raids things that take six players and

They're dope as fuck. Generally hours to complete. A lot of coordination too. The previous day ones have taken, you know, on the minimum, the best teams that have been nonstop geared, like the best of the best in this game. This .001% take six to eight hours, sometimes over 17 hours. Sometimes, I think last wish was like damn near like 10%.

23 and a half hours or some shit to clear the first raid because there's no instructions. Nobody knows how to. There's puzzles, different bosses. You have DPS certain amount. There are crazy mechanics you don't know and you just got to figure it out. Fast forward that you get it down to like 30 minutes. You can run these raids. Some of these. It's like initial. It's like, hey, this is like first time 18 hours. These day ones are called contest mode. Now contest mode. Yeah, they make it all. Everything's hard. That's your light level. Your gear score is dropped completely.

well below the actual gear score of the raid. So that first 24 hours, first 48 hours, I think it is now. - Oh, fuck. - Is much harder. This one, the top team completed in two and a half hours. - Yeah. - Like, it's a cool raid.

But like, it is nothing like Last Wish. Nothing like any of them. Which one's Last Wish? Last Wish is the one where... You fight a giant space dragon. Yes. Yeah. The last of the Ahamkara. Yeah. What's your name again? Riven? Riven. Yeah. Okay. I don't know if I did that one then. It's sick. You haven't played much D2 at all, have you? No, I think I did the last dungeon I did was the...

big computer room that's like the red Deep Stone Crypt maybe no he did not do Deep Stone no you haven't done fuck all for D2 oh Wrath of the Machine that's probably the last one I played yeah you did Destiny 1 okay so that was the last raid I did yeah you haven't played D2 you're D1 yeah those are good games though in my opinion some of the best shooting mechanics in a video game and the

- I will say the PVE shooting mechanics in Destiny are- - Oh, they're great. Yeah, they always feel super fun. Yeah, you always feel like really powerful unless you're doing like, you know, grandmaster bullshit where you feel like you're doing nothing. - A pussy bitch. - Yeah. And then the coordination is fun because if your teammates suck,

It makes those really difficult. And when you die, it shows you how bad your teammates have been doing. Yeah. That's pretty great too. I love that. It is a platform. It's like Mario 3D mixed with a first person shooter because you're at something. I'm assuming still it's like, oh, you have to grab the puzzle. Now jump, jump and put it on the guy's back and jump away and then count to three and do a spin and it will explode. Go.

- Like every time we're doing a raid together, it's like, all right, taking three, two, one, switch, next phase, next phase, and then everyone moves. We're in position, all right, five, four, three, two. - All right, you're going L1 to L3, L1 to L3. I'm taking, I'm jumping now, okay, I got the orb, I'm slamming, and it makes no fucking sense.

It sounds so stupid when you take it out of context, but when you're doing it, you feel so cool. There's a kid that just got arrested for butt-dialing 911. Yes! Oh, the R6. He was playing Rainbow Six. Yeah, and he was like, hey, I just killed two people. Okay? Okay? No. And it's all 911. A 17-year-old kid. The cops are arresting him. He's like, I don't know what it is. He's like, uh, so what? He's like,

Oh my god, yeah, I killed two people in a video game. I had my headphones on. And they're like, oh, this is a big change to the story. Jesus Christ. Worst butt dial ever. Dude, you know what worries me? You guys ever just be like streaming and then you'll say something that doesn't even sound like Siri, but you say, hey, how can I help you today? And like she'll do something when your phone's on like do not disturb or something. I don't have Siri turned on.

Yeah. Siri's always on, even if you shut her off. Yeah. I can't turn it off. Hey, Siri. My phone doesn't. Hey, Siri. Hey, Siri, call Batty. How did you turn it off? Hey, Siri. Oh. Shut up, bitch. Sorry. Yeah, I turned that shit off. How did you shut Siri off? And the options. I don't want Siri in my shit. Siri's listening. I'm one of those. She's always listening. At least I feel good thinking she doesn't listen.

Dude, Siri was cool for like the first day it came out and I was like, hey Siri, you want to suck my dick? I'm sorry, I can't answer that right now. And then it's like, oh, that's boring. That's it. Show eight days later, stop. I'm going to divorce you. But yeah, that's, yeah, I always turned that shit off. I was like, nah, they had that Call of Duty, what people were doing because you'd hear the...

the people with that open mics getting near them. And then people would be like, Hey, Xbox shut off. And you just see him disconnect. The amount of times I'm a piece of shit. The amount of times I've been like, Hey Siri, play and I'll pick like rains down in Africa or some shit. And I'll just start to say like, Hey Alexa, cause you can, there are typical phrases like, Hey Alexa, Alexa,

Turn all the lights on. It's 3 in the morning. IRL flashback. Hey Alexa, Max Volley. You can do that while you're on stream and fuck with people.

- Oh, I didn't even think about that. - Yeah, I mean, that's either listening on speakers or TV, I guess. - The amount of people that listen on speakers and TV is way higher than I expected. - Right now on the podcast, people are probably watching this 'cause they're gonna be, it's just getting- - Hey Alexa, turn off the TV. - Like stop, stop, no, no! - Hey Alexa, Google bad dragon.

- Oh my God. - I had to curse. - Buy now. - We're just getting invoices of bad dragons we bought for them. - We're bad. - You're welcome. - Explain that one to the accountant. - What games are you guys looking forward to now? - Diablo 4, Diablo 4, Diablo 4. - RE4 remake.

Oh, R4A2, yes. Yeah, dude, R4 was my favorite Resident Evil of all time. I'm not a Resident Evil guy. I played that on the GameCube repeatedly. Did you see the new one on the hardcore is like fucking hard, apparently? I'm going to buy another GameCube, dude. Is it like permadeath? I don't know, but the demo, the articles I was reading were like, yo, the hardcore is like brutal on Resident Evil 4 demo. I think it would be permadeath because...

well, no, because Village of Shadows on RE8 isn't permadeath on the hardest mode. But I think it's something like... It's very limited ammo, meds, stuff like that. You basically have to shoot everybody in the leg, kick them in the face, then finish them on the ground. That's how you did it in RE4. You'd be like, boom, roundhouse. Then you'd be like, shot, shot. Discombobulate the mic. Yeah.

- Yeah! - I'm looking forward to that. I want to check out D4 for sure. - Diablo 4, just for everybody to... - Yeah, Stalker 2 near the end of the year. I'm really looking forward to that. Cause like, I'm like huge Stalker fan. - Counter Strike 2. - Oh my God. - Is that actually happening? - Yeah. - Oh yeah, yeah. People are talking about it. - Yeah, I'm actually... - The most low key announcement ever. - It's because it wasn't announced. It was leaked. - It was leaked. - Yeah. - It got leaked real hard. - I'll play this shit. - Is it on Source 2? - Yeah.

- That's what it is. - That's what was part of the leak. - I hope they have a new Garry's Mod source too, bro. That'd be sick. - Bro, that'd be kind of crazy. - I didn't think about that. - Garry's Mod was fun, man. - Played that God knows how long. - Remake all the old zombies maps and survival game modes and shit. - Oh, did Zombie Panic? - Oh, man. - Dude, I played like, I remember me and my buddies used to just server hop just all night. It's all we do for weeks on end and just try out all the different janky ass servers and shit. I probably played it at some point. - Other people's fucking fucked up shit. - Yeah.

My favorite was a zombie panic. It was basically like halo infection, but half-life. And you'd have these different maps, and you'd have to go through and try and find some guns and ammo to hold up somewhere. And then there's a player who's the zombie, and they'd fucking kill one person at a time. Then somebody turned into the zombie, and eventually you'd just be the last man standing. And that shit was always very, very fun. I miss those days. There's just so much weird...

shit that people would make. And like, it was all so different. It was janky as hell, man. All of it. I loved it. But it ran great because it was Source. It was Source, yeah. It just kind of worked. Unless you joined one of those really fucked up maps. It's like, what is this? It's like the most awful sound effects ever, just constantly blaring in your ear. You're like, why is that on max volume? Yeah.

I forgot about those. Overkill. It's just screaming words. Yeah. Noni. Oh, God. That is wretched in my ears. I'm wondering if they do Counter-Strike like a Battle Royale with it. They tried that. Did they? Yeah. It's called Danger Zone.

Oh, fuck. I remember. Wait, hold on. Was it Danger Zone? Yeah. I swear to God, it was something similar to a Battle Royale, kind of. Counter-Strike? Yeah, yeah. Back in the day, we called that free-for-all. Yeah. Yeah, no, because it was on its own specially made maps for the game mode. And there was pickups. You could pick up armor. You could pick up weapons. You could pick up... Yeah, it was weird. I don't even know if it's still a thing. It might be, but I'm pretty sure it's called Danger Zone.

Came out with one of the operations. Yeah. If they did Counter-Strike, I would like to play Counter-Strike because that's more fast-paced than Call of Duty, in my opinion, I think. Well, there's no, like, slide canceling. There's no aiming. There's no sprinting. There is no aim. I wonder if they're going to continue, like, the low because only, what, the AUG and the SDG. It's all the scope. Yeah. Yeah.

Which is kind of wild to think about. Back in the day, yeah, that was it. There was no aiming. They don't need to change it because it's perfect. Yeah. Just update the graphics, maybe some new animations. That's the problem, though. So gamers nowadays aren't okay with just updating graphics and moving forward. Yeah, no. They need mechanical changes. They need it. People are picky as fuck. But I mean, if you look at the Call of Duty community, like when...

they add or change a new mechanic that was Call of Duty, they fucking either flip shit or they love it. They always have to go back and revert. What happened with the Modern Warfare 2 is they had to literally go back on most of the stuff they changed because people like a slide canceling and all this other fucking dumb shit that I personally hate. I didn't mind the

fuck you sliding or well fucking zoo. So they could have kept get rid of that stuff. And then just the dive. Cause you had the dolphin dive, which didn't help much in battle. Other than when you're like getting away, that's what it should be used for is getting into cover. And I was fine with that. The movement fine with all of those things, the looting mechanics, they switched in modern warfare to I fucking despise. Cause it wasn't,

good it was like open bag this comes up and your guys like oh i want this it's like throw your gun out and you grab like trash and you're like no no no no no no no i'm in a firefight now you're trying to grab your gun it's grabbing everything else you like c4 yeah plates no fucking you'll appreciate this how the fuck did they make it worse it wasn't black ops 3 oh yep they made it worse than that somehow

Is yeah, well it's cuz it's not the same developers. Let's be honest like they cycle out devs. It's those three of them Even within those studios themselves, they'll swap out devs all the time. Hey, okay Yeah, they'll rotate them out. They'll fucking put people on a contract once they're done Oh, okay get the fuck out of here and the only people that stay around are usually the executives and

I mean, even the new ones, which that's always the problem. It's like, this game failed because of this. It's like, no, the executives are why this failed. You shouldn't have had any input in these specific things. You should have shut the fuck up. Listen to general consensus. I always say just...

Reach out to people that know how to play. Hey, like you guys, I'd be like, hey, what do you think on these mechanics? You do a democracy almost where it's like give it to 100 top FPS players. Like what mechanics do you want in this? What do you like? What do you not like? Imagine. You'd instantly get that feedback. It's like, hey, this is fucking trash talking. Call of Duty, there should have been zero. No one played that and was like, man, this looting mechanics are really fucking dope.

I love being able to drop ammo and pick it up or just shit disappearing when I drop it. We were playing and it was like those fucking issues that were happening. You know, like this is killing me. You can't have fuck ups with shit that is core. Especially like it is so important that fundamentally works because you have to be able to grab your plates, grab whatever the fuck you need off this guy and move. You can't. It's the same thing with Tarkov. You spend too long sitting on a bodyguard. Yeah.

You can't do that. You just got to be quick or you're going to get fucked. You're going to get third-party. Yeah, and that's how you get third-party. You're like, motherfucker. They're new. They patched it. And yesterday I found already a key problem. We pulled up in a vehicle to buy something. I jump onto that vehicle. I'm like, ah, I get off of it. And they're like, what? I was like, Dex.

"Stand on that vehicle." And he's like, "Why?" I was like, "Your game will go to shit. Stand on that vehicle." He hops up, it's like, - Turns into a slide show. - Yeah, it goes to 10 to 30 frames per second if you're just standing on a vehicle. - Sounds like Tarkov when you aim. - Yeah. - You know, I got this new PC from Star Forge and I still haven't even ran Tarkov on it once. - Don't, don't ever. - Oh, fucking, it's 390 and I can't run Tarkov on my aim.

This weird thing. So I had a really bad processor before. I just upgraded it like a month or two ago. I got one of those 5800X3Ds. Nice. Everyone's saying it runs it great. When I first had it, it ran phenomenally. Everything else I've played on it runs great. Tarkov ran great at the start. Now a few months later, Tarkov runs like it did on my old

processor again. - It's the Bitcoin mining. - I don't understand how it is the most inconsistently performing video game that exists on the planet. - It's the only video game I've ever played where RAM and RAM speed affects the FPS. - Wait, are you kidding? - No, RAM amount and RAM speed affects the FPS in Tarkov. It's the only game I've ever played. - It's the only game that's ever maxed out my RAM. 32 gigs of RAM in my game, my PC's like,

- He's screaming. - So is this the Unreal motor? No, this is, we're using Adobe Photoshop to power it. - So in some way, the center is just clicking between the top and the top. - He's like, he's just rendering. - It's just rendering. - Yeah, the game is just, when you hit play, it's just like rendering game.

computer i didn't know ram fucking made it yeah it's still got a massive fucking memory leak somewhere so your ram will just be screaming if you don't restart your game every now and then sometimes when you're playing tarkov it's like if you want to experience you've never played tarkov before boot up your favorite game and go download cinema 4d and run a benchmark and see what happens that's what tarkov is all the time that's yeah

- That's insane. - Like I'll be sitting at, you know, a hundred plus frames and all of a sudden I'll aim and it's like 20, 15, 30, 40, 20, 15. - I am looking forward to the arena mode though. 'Cause it is running off a completely different infrastructure, net code and like hardware. - I'm excited to talk to the team who made it. That's not PSG. - Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean they're at BSG. It's just like a different team. - They're at BSG. They're at BSG over there though.

There's no way it's the same team. If it's a different infrastructure, 100%. I'm absolutely calling it a different team. Yeah, but they've built it from the ground up. It's not like Tarkov now where they're still going through all of the fucking turbo mega layers of top quality. They're trying to get through Nikita's original code.

Oh my God. Back when it was a flash FPS on Facebook. Dude. Wait, so Tarkov, did they just build that from the ground up? Just jankily? Jankily? I don't know.

I think there was a word to describe Tarkov. Jankily. Jankily. Jankily's the word. Yeah, yeah. It's a jankily FPS. Because you have like Kojima. He's famous for like we're building these engines, the Fox engine, whatever. And it's the standard usually when it comes to video games. It's like, hey, Metal Gear Solid 2, 3. Tarkov's never been the standard. No, that's what I love. You can just run the Unreal and they're probably like, why don't you just do the Unreal 3? You know when you have to download LimeWire to download something else? There's something else to start with. To be fair, UE4 is a fucking...

to work with yeah it's like a lot of my buddies who are devs like they don't like working ue4 like unity devs there's not really any like really good engine out right now that's like really

Great for developers to work on like the only one frostbite isn't but that's literally owned by yeah, yeah Granted dude if they would like fucking release a dev kit for people and be like hey you can build games on frostbite Charge a fuck ton to use frostbite. Yeah, you need millions. Yeah, that's what I'm saying Whereas you can literally download UE4 on your fucking PC and start making something if you want to yeah I mean frostbite is a great engine because obviously it's had tens of millions of dollars backed into it, but you know fuck those guys

- Damn, jeez, that was a hard C. - I really don't like EA, man. - No, I get it. - They've ruined so many games. - Battlefield 4 is now like 16 bucks. Or not 4, sorry, Battlefield 2042. - 2042. - They brought back the classes, by the way. - I'm sure they did. - Yeah, and then nobody cares. - Is grandma still fighting on the front lines?

You shot that game in the leg. Like, I remember beta or whatever the week before. I was like, this is going to be trash. We were so excited to play it. Yeah, Zex. First time me and Eli played a game together in like three years. We quit though. Zex wanted to be good so bad. I know. I was so hyped for that shit. Me and you were just like, this sucks. I was like, this game. You discussed it too.

- And how small they were with the, dude, they'll zoom in, you'd be like punched in and it's like, how far is he? It's like, probably 2000 yards. It's like, let me range find him, 250 feet. - It's like, why is my hand 24X scope? - And it's like, boom! It's like, why is it traveling so slow to 300 feet? - I have a seven by 35 scope.

- Let's keep it on seven. - Let's keep it. - The rounds were 300 feet per second. It was a paintball. Dude, you lob them, you're like, "Oh, I remember this part." - You can literally lean out of the way. That was the worst part. You're like, "Oh, okay." - I will just never play a battlefield game ever again. Also, before we move on, fuck EA for starting.

- Fuck you and fuck your ultimate team that started this whole micro transactions and video game bullshit. Cause it was you fuckers that started it. - They're like executive guys said that you're retarded if you don't, you know, fucking put micro transactions in your game. Cause obviously, you know, all video games and art should be about making money and like, why would you ever make anything that people would just enjoy and like, you know, because that's, you know. - Shout outs to the fucking $70 games that have paid fucking battle passes and yeah.

- Love you guys. Yeah, you're awesome. - No, he thinks you're a bunch of . - I remember when video games went from 40 bucks to 50 bucks. - Yeah, I remember. - That was such a huge change. - They've always been 50. - I feel like in like- - We're talking N64 shit, buddy. - I feel like back then, I remember that jump. - 50 bucks. - Nope. - GameCube. - So, Super- - Look at a GameCube game. They were not $50 on the rip. - That's true. I remember them being like $40. - No, they were 40 bucks. - How much are we wagering on this?

So Nintendo, so NES video games came out at $69 to $79. Then we had SNES games that came out to $59 to $79. The first version of Secret of Mana was $69 coming out, which is now $20,000 to $40,000. This is the stuff I'm like. I will say, I would believe that N64 games were probably about $50. Because I remember in Ireland back in the day, I think it was 30 to 35 pounds.

was how much an N64 game was, which would have been about, oh, maybe $60 back then. I don't know. It depends on what the conversions and shit were. I don't know. I remember GameCube games not being that expensive. I agree. Xbox and PS2 games were more expensive. Were $50, and then eventually they went to $60. Yeah.

But I mean, I also feel around like 2012, 23rd. Actually, no, it was 2007, 2008. That's what I'm thinking. Like when I was in high school, still like 2000 fucking 7008, like 2000 before then. Fuck. Wasn't it? Wasn't it PlayStation three that started titles at 70 bucks? 60. I think it was 60. It was, um,

There are still six I think late Xbox 360 started becoming 60s all they were yeah that $59.99 stuff started happening. I want to say like in 2017 yeah, that was way more recent. Oh, okay, what do you like for me? Cuz like top score rows just right now It's just really high prices cuz it's give me an MS the original trust me. I'm trying to find those

look this up gamecube game msr pre msr pre free i just i just need to know what was the hey guys if you're still watching this fucking awful podcast right now an hour plus change in new msrps range from 25 to 50 for most nes games in the 1980s that was 1980s that was 80s that was 80s we talked about

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