Stephen Miller On The Failed Biden Administration Policies 47:07

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Well, welcome to the Jason and the House podcast. Thanks so much for giving us part of your day. I think you're really going to like this. I know you're going to enjoy it because I recorded the interview with Stephen Miller first. Now I'm going back and recording this. We recorded a little bit out of order. But I'm telling you, it was a really good interview with Stephen Miller. And you're going to enjoy it. It's going to be fun. So...

If you don't know about Stephen Miller, he's a very high role within the Trump administration. He's got an interesting background. You've seen him a lot on Fox talking. He talks about everything. Trump talks about everything about the border and immigration. That's really his...

His forte, he worked with Senator Jeff Sessions back in the day. And he's just a strong voice and very close to President Donald Trump. You can hear it in his voice, and I just think you're really going to enjoy it. So we're going to hit a couple things in the news.

And then we're going to highlight the stupid because, you know, there's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere. And then we'll get on with the conversation with Stephen Miller. So right near the top of this, the idea that Evan Gerskovich, the Wall Street Journal reporter, is finally, finally coming home.

He was the Wall Street Journal journalist who was in Russia and just unjustly incarcerated. He's been there for years, and he is finally being released. So...

I don't care who the credit goes to. I'm just glad that he comes back and that he's on his way back. The Russian court had just issued him a 16-year sentence. And look, there's no nothing during this 16 months of incarceration that anybody can point to where he did something wrong. Now, he was accused by the Kremlin, by the Russians, of

of being some sort of something, spy or gathering military secrets about a tank factory. And then he was sentenced, but somehow they're doing a prisoner swap and he's coming home. It was kind of scary how long he was going to be there in that Russian prison. We still have Americans that are incarcerated there in Russia and around the world.

But when you see that Evan is finally coming home, a journalist out there doing his job for the Wall Street Journal, this is a good moment. And it happened on President Biden's watch. So let's give him some credit. I don't know how it happened. We'll learn the terms about it later, but I'm glad he's coming home. I know that during the Trump administration, there were some 55 people

that were brought home. So kudos to Donald Trump. He knew how to do this exceptionally well. Unfortunately, some Americans get entangled in other countries that aren't so fun and nice to the United States. But we're just glad that he's coming back. So that's a really good thing. The other thing that I want to highlight in the news that maybe isn't so good is

is this idea that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and two others there in Guantanamo Bay, these are prisoners. These are non, how do you say it? These are people that are behind the mastermind of the 9-11 attacks that killed nearly 3,000 Americans. Now, somehow the Biden administration has struck a deal so that they're not going to pursue the death penalty.

supposedly they're going to be incarcerated for life, but they're not going to go after the death penalty. How you look at those Americans who lost their lives, and the Marines and all the other military people that signed up to fight the war on terror and lost their lives fighting that war, came back maybe having lost a limb or PTSD or whatever it might be, and then you have the masterminds and you're not going to pursue death.

prosecuting him to the fullest. It's going to outrage a lot of Americans and I can totally see and understand why. And that is, you know, it's just unfathomable that they're going to do that. But that, you know, these things happen kind of simultaneously at the same time, give some credit for bringing home a prisoner. But the other hand, we have people and I'm telling you,

It's not just the Biden-Harris administration, just a one-off. This seems to be a recurring theme with them. They just don't want to prosecute people to the fullest extent of the law. I think the facts and the fact pattern here kind of stand for themselves. You'll have to decide how you digest that. But those are two big noteworthy things happening in the news right here at the same time. All right, let's bring on the stupid because you know what? There's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere. ♪

And we're going to have to give one here to Kamala Harris and the Democrats for suddenly waking up and almost in unison, I mean, across the board. It's as if there was a symphony and the conductor stood up and waved their baton and all of the traditional media, the mainstream media, they all started one morning. They woke up a few days ago and they said, let's just call Republicans, J.D. Vance, Donald Trump, let's call them weird.

Yeah, that'll get them weird. They used to call him Hitler. Now they're calling him weird. What? Weird? What do these people stand for? Donald Trump, J.D. Vance. They love their country. They love the flag. They want to secure the borders. They want there to be peace. They want you to have your constitutional freedoms. They don't want to lock down the border. And they're the weird ones?

Meanwhile, the Democrats, too many of them have been supportive of, I don't know, cashless bail, getting people out, sanctuary cities, open borders, allowing men to participate in women's sports. J.D. Vance and Donald Trump are the weird ones. I don't think America's buying that. I really, really don't think that they're buying that. And for me, for them to go out and simultaneously, literally simultaneously,

across the board start calling them weird it's just too much you know they all read the same memo and uh just like they were supposed to lined up like lemmings and just use the same talking points that to me is just flat out stupid all right

Time to bring on Stephen Miller. Like I said, I already recorded this, so I already know what it's going to sound like. You're going to love it. Let's bring in Stephen Miller. Thrilled to have on Stephen Miller. Stephen, thanks so much for joining us. It's my pleasure to be here today. I look forward to this conversation immensely. I really do appreciate it. Look, you're the president of America First Legal. You can go check them out at aflegal.org, A-F for America First, legal.org.

You're also the senior advisor to the president. Now, there aren't many of those, but the senior advisor to President Trump, being there all four years, you got some insight as to President Trump and this election. So thanks for joining us on the Jason in the House podcast. Appreciate it. Thrilled to be here. No, I really do. And...

I want to first, I want to learn a little bit more about kind of how you got to this position, because I think a lot of people would love to be in your position, but it's not easy to come by. And so I want to learn more about your background and

have you kind of tell your story on how you got from here to there. But I also want to get your immediate reaction. I guess you're off the cuff because we could kind of see it coming, right? Joe Biden's White House speech there from the Oval Office touted as what it was going to be, you know, explaining to the American people why he was stepping down. And then your reaction,

to Kamala Harris essentially wrapping it up in 24 hours after that. What's your thoughts on that? Oh, the whole thing is really quite breathtaking and, of course, unprecedented. I'm fairly certain that never before in American history has a political party canceled and nullified its own primary after holding it. You know, people keep mentioning LBJ as the example of when a candidate, and that was, of course, Trump,

In the 1968 election, but people keep using that as an example of when a candidate gave a primetime address and announced that he was bowing out. That was before.

the party had selected its nominee. The whole point of the LBJ speech, which I think was in March, if I remember correctly, but the whole point of it was that it was to precede the selection of a nominee, right? I will not seek nor will I accept. I've already sought and have accepted and have been the nominee and changed my mind. I mean, really, it's important just to understand the extent to which you are watching the powerful

show that they are able to get away with anything. There's one lesson we've learned and learned and learned over and over again these last eight years is that there's two groups in this country, the people who write the rules and make them up as they go along, and everyone else who has to live underneath the rules that they create out of whole cloth. So again, for all of American history, if a party held a nominations process and people voted and they selected a nominee, that's the nominee.

And now they've come along and they've decided, you know what, if that nominee is losing in a head-to-head matchup, even though 14 million people voted, even though we had a democratic procedure in state after state after state, ballots were handed out, ballots were printed, mail voting occurred, caucusing occurred. Even though all that happened, we can just say, never mind. It really is just astonishing. And then the other tension in all this that doesn't get focused on enough is that

For three weeks, really with great intensity, although longer than that, but we saw details spilling out about Joe Biden's significant cognitive impairment. And the purpose of those leaks from a media that had concealed that so religiously for three and a half years was

of course was part of the strategy of forcing Biden out. So they were basically coming public and of course George Clooney wrote his op-ed that made the same point and saying that Joe Biden is cognitively incapable of exercising the duties of the president. Then Joe Biden gives his speech

And does not cite as his reason for leaving any medical or cognitive issues, any concerns about his ability to do the job. And so what you have then is a situation where their public facing story is literally that they canceled the primary because the Republican Party refused.

was too effectively prosecuted in the case against our nominee. And so they figured it'd be easier just to throw him away and start from scratch. And it really, again, it is, it is hard to define the vocabulary to explain how insane the anti-democratic that is. Yeah. This comes from the party that of course, you know, they are going to be the one that saves democracy from Donald Trump. And they're the ones that democracy is literally on the line. And,

And then all the insistence by Kareem Jean-Pierre and others that, you know, if you're saying anything about the president's vigor and his ability to cognitively, you know, be as nimble as possible, if you do any of that, that's going to be a cheap fake or a deep fake. And you're back to the full time gaslighting again. Right. We had this brief interregnum where because it served a party and partisan interest, you

The media, which is in the pocket of the Democrat Party, and it's an extension of the Democratic Party, and the Democrat donors had a shared interest in humiliating Biden as much as possible to force him out of the race. Then ultimately what did it was that the donors froze his bank account. So it was pure financial extortion.

And so there was this brief period where because it served the party's interests, they had to tell the truth about Joe Biden's mental state. And then as soon as he surrendered to the extortion and he left kicking and screaming, now they're back to pretending that he's cognitively fit to run the country. So a lot can be said about it. You could spend a lot of hours analyzing it. But the simplest and most important point is this.

The regime that will lie to you so effortlessly and so continuously and change its story from week to week and month to month and expect you to recite and believe the new lie. Right. Is that is a governing party that can never be trusted about anything ever. Right. Everything that they say now and forevermore.

Has to be judged the lens of these are the most untrustworthy and dishonest people in the history of American politics. They will look you in the eye and tell you for three and a half years that Joe Biden's brain is working perfectly. Then for a few weeks, he'll admit his brain is completely broken. Then once he's gone, they'll come back to saying, no, he's fine. He can run the country. Shut up. To be able to engage in that kind of cognitive whiplash.

Again, it's just another rewriting history in real time. They're now saying Kamala Harris was never the border czar. Kamala Harris was never the most liberal senator in the Senate. Kamala Harris never waged war against police officers. I mean, literally everything in a record. They're now trying to say to you, oh, no, no, it's not true. Don't believe your eyes. Don't believe your memory. Don't believe our own newspaper headlines. So at some point, it's even bigger than ideology. At some point, the American people have to reject a government policy.

of lots just all of the lies it's just so much it's just hoaxes and lies and hoaxes and lies you can't have a healthy Society or a healthy country that is governed by non-stop lies the Russia collusion lie the Hunter Biden laptop isn't real live the Russian bounties lie the Ukraine phone call lie

The censorship, all of it is just at some point, if a society is governed by the effort to conceal, hide and suppress the truth, then freedom can't survive in that kind of environment. And that's really what's at stake in this election. Yeah, I think it was the German philosopher Nietzsche, right, who said, it's not that you lied to me. It's that I can never trust you again.

So, you know, why would you possibly – I thought it was also almost comical when, you know, they kept saying, well, Kareem Jean-Pierre kept saying, well, we're going to listen to President Biden. He'll explain to you what's going on. Just listen to his speech. And then at the end, as almost if it was pre-written, oh, the president, he was candid and he was heroic. Right.

I mean, at one point during his speech, he said one of his goals was to unite the party from a guy who got 92 percent of the vote. But he still wanted to unite the party. But he didn't explain why he was stepping down. What was different that weekend versus the weekend before? He never explained that. They're wed to a lie that they have to continue to ram down our throats.

And they can't tell the truth because the truth is so horrible. If he told the truth, imagine just for a moment what an honest and truthful address would be. That my medical condition has been concealed to the country for three and a half years. I lack the ability on a day-to-day basis to focus and operate at the level, the bare minimum required to be commander in chief. I made the mistake. It was a personal and moral failing.

of running for president and locking up the nomination, asking for your vote, knowing full well I wasn't capable of performing these duties, and now confronted with this grim reality, I'm taking the last life raft off the ship.

If he had said that, it would have been, of course, completely honest and truthful. But they can't say that. So they have to talk about, quote, passing the torch, which, again, is something that you do before you have a primary. You do it before everybody has voted. You don't do it after all the votes are in, therefore depriving the entire country.

of the ability to weigh in on who one of the two major nominees is going to be. And let's understand, we're not talking about, we're not like a parliamentary system here where you have a wide range of different major candidates to choose from. We live in a two-party system fundamentally. And to have one of those two parties have no Democratic participation in the nominating process is in a very literal sense canceling American democracy.

You know, it really is amazing because he did say prior to the 2020 election that he was going to be one that was a transition president, right? He was going to transition to this new generation. That was one of his promises, one of the other ones that he broke. And I thought, oh, last summer he's going to do it. Then I thought, oh, no, Thanksgiving's actually a good time to do it. Oh, okay, Christmas is a good time to do it. And then he didn't do it. His last window was before the first primary. Exactly. That was his last window, right? Yeah.

And he didn't just miss that window, he missed the entire nominating process. In fact, not only did he campaign aggressively for the nomination, but as you know, they fought aggressively

to keep competition out of the nominating process, to keep him from debating, and to keep him, despite significant doubts about his ability to persist for four more years, they kept all the competition at bay as best as they possibly could. And so it just, look, at some fundamental level, and we're going to get into policy here, but at some fundamental level, as a society, you can't be governed by liars.

it poisons all of democracy to use that very popular

Discussion point now. It poisons all of democracy when you know your government is lying to you and is going to keep lying to you and won't stop lying to you. Every day is a lie. Every day Kamala Harris is out there on the campaign trail. It's predicated on a lie, right? The lie that while she's campaigning, somebody's running the country and nobody is. And so she's a participant in this lie and has been for three and a half years.

And if you get to repeat ourselves here, but if they'll lie to you about that, if they'll lie to you about the ability of the commander in chief to be the commander in chief, then they will lie to you about anything. And we know many of those lies already. Right. How long do they lie to us saying the border was secure? The border was not open. That was a that was a three plus year lie that we have that we have lived through and endured.

Right. They lied relentlessly about the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. Right. They lied about the line right now. They're lying right now. The left is about the assassination attempt on President Trump, pushing the wildest hoaxes and conspiracy theories. So, you know, at some point you just have to reject the lies and say, I want an honest government. And one of the things I mean, there's a long list of things.

But one of the things that people love the most about President Trump is that he is a relentless truth teller. You know, in the in the Oval Office every single day, he communicated directly to the American people. He told them what was going on. He told them what he was working on. He told them what his priorities were. And he engaged in the most honest talk.

open, transparent dialogue for four years as president with the American people in the history of the Oval Office. There's never been an administration in which there was no effort to conceal from the American people

The priorities, goals, opinions, attitudes and beliefs of the commander in chief. It was a direct relationship between the president and the American people without any spin, without any camouflage, without any attempt to shade or shape things. Just the truth, the full truth and nothing but the truth. And that's the end of the day. What we need to heal this country and to unite is to have an honest government. Yeah, the candidness, the the the.

the tapping into what the commander in chief, what president Trump was talking about. I mean, almost to a fault, right? He's out there every day, answering all their questions, even from the people that were detractors. I,

He was sent out for 45 minutes. We were going to go do a, and I was a staffer who was traveling on the vast, vast majority of the day-to-day and week-to-week trips, both domestically and abroad. And so I was a first-hand witness to this. So if we had, say, a trip out to Minnesota to talk about, say, mineral mining,

The we would have a full day. And yet, on top of that, the president was sitting out there with reporters for 30 minutes on the White House lawn, answering every question they could think of before leaving. And another 30 minutes when we came back, answering every single question. And to your point, I think what you were alluding to is that comms professionals.

you know, who we all love, right? They will always have the view, whether they be, frankly, whatever political persuasion that they have, right, of, you know, you have to try to limit interactions with the media, right, to try to control things. President Trump was an open book for all four years of the presidency and the four years, nearly four years since then. And again, it's that

It's that total honesty and transparency contrasted with this just mountain of lies. And not to get too philosophical, but lies of this scale and magnitude. People who will look you in the eye and just lie to you, just lie right to your face as they've been lying to us now.

Well, it crushes the spirit. In other words, to live in a, under a government where you can't trust anything they say, and in fact, you're demonized for even questioning or challenging their lives. I mean, let's go back, for example, to 2021 with all the COVID mandates and we had all the evidence showing in 2021

These COVID mandates weren't working. Far more people were dying under Biden than Trump. The mandates were clearly backfiring, having significant economic harms, social harms, harms on our children. In 2021 and 2022, under the Biden administration, not only were you forced to accept these lies, you were demonized and censored and blacklisted for challenging those lies. And living in that kind of environment is soul crushing.

Yeah. And it was pervasive. And I hope the American people will actually sit back and look and think about how good life was under Donald Trump.

How the economy was zooming, the border was closing. We were into energy independent. We were signing peace agreements overseas. I mean, the man had a plan and he was executing on it. And the comparison now and to hear the gaslighting from Joe Biden again, I still go back to that Oval Office address where he's talking about all of his accomplishments. And he comes up with the craziest things like.

the world is a more peaceful place. And I just think, are you kidding me? And that the economy is just getting so much better. Yeah, well, we need to drive inflation up to 9%. And now it's less than that. Don't think that that's some big accomplishment because under Donald Trump, it was never as... Yeah, I mean, under Donald Trump, it was never that close. Yes, not to interrupt you, but this is such an important point. If you have inflation of 10% in one month,

And then 5% the other month. That 5% is on top of the 10%. Exactly. Right? It's added to. Yes. Yes. It's additional to. It's compounding. And so your dollar keeps becoming more and more worthless with every passing month. And the money that you saved up in your bank account begins to approach the value of nothing, which is what working people are experiencing in this country. You also mentioned peace under Trump versus war today. Exactly.

and just the gaslighting is just so out of control. When President Trump left office, there was stability in the Korean Peninsula for the first time in a generation. China was not threatening Taiwan for the first time in several generations. The Middle East

for the first time in our lives, was signing multiple peace accords across the region to reduce tensions and increase harmony. And of course, there wasn't even the specter, even the idea, even the flicker of Europe being at war. In other words, if you in 2020 had said,

I guess what in a few months from now, there's going to be a massive bloody deadly war ravaging Europe. You would have said that's impossible. How could that be? And now here we are under the Biden administration.

And we are closer than ever because of all these multiple conflict points. I didn't even mention, by the way, I should mention this too, Iran on the march close to a nuclear weapon. And of course, the horrifying, evil, barbaric attack on Israel. You have all of these points happening simultaneously that brings the world closer than ever to World War III. You talk about chaos, Kamala Harris,

Our team put out some ad about chaos. The definition of chaos is what we are seeing right now with these conflicts unfolding all across the globe, an invasion on our border, and a plague of violence in our cities. That is the definition of chaos judged against chaos.

Four years of peace, security and stability. There couldn't be a clearer contrast. Yeah, it really is a choice election. And I mean, I could go on for another hour or two with you about the policy and the difference between the two candidates. But I want to take a minute here. Again, we're talking with Stephen Miller, the president of America First Legal, but also the former senior advisor to President Trump. I want to talk a little bit more about you. Tell us a little bit more about you.

growing up and what life was like, where'd you grow up? What was, and how did you, what inspired you to be, I mean, you're a conservative person, like, but where did that come from? Because a lot of people growing up, they don't necessarily, they're not necessarily conservative. So explain to us kind of what you went through and what were, what informed you and how you kind of came to the principles that you're obviously so passionate about.

Well, I mean, so first of all, as you mentioned, starting at the end here, I truly had one of the most extraordinary privileges that anybody could have in life, which is that for four years, I had the honor, the humbling honor of serving as a senior White House advisor in the Trump administration. And

It truly is the blessing opportunity and gift of a lifetime. To start closer to the beginning, I grew up in a very liberal hamlet of Los Angeles, a little city, well, I guess a mid-sized city,

called santa monica and you know when i was growing up to show you how leftist santa monica was i think for a good stretch of time uh we had a green party mayor and really and everybody referred to santa monica then um as santa moscow i don't know if they're still doing that but when i was a kid people called it santa moscow uh or these a lot of people who were active in politics did

And to give you a sense of how leftist the politics were, a reference to the Soviet Union. And this high school that I went to, the public high school I went to, Santa Monica High School, was... So, you know, nowadays, of course, because of social media, there's so much transparency on what's happening in our schools, which is so...

Of course, transparency is only half the battle. You actually have to fix it. That's the more important part. But at least we know what's happening so we can have a roadmap to fixing it. Back when I was in high school, I don't think a lot of Americans realized, even then, how terrible things were in our schools. I lived it every single day. So if there was any single...

thing that I would say got me both energized about being in politics at a young age and then also really cemented my my worldview and of course like all people who who make the transition from being a child to a fully functioning adult you learn a lot of things along the way and become more uh mature and sophisticated so obviously my worldview has evolved in important ways

as one would hope since then. But if anything really shaped me then, it was actually the response to the radical leftism in my high school environment, the aggressive anti-Americanism that was being force-fed by teachers to students, the significant rejection of the

the view of a shared national identity in favor of the kind of racial division that now again is commonplace throughout academia. But my high school very aggressively pushed racial division and racial separatism in a way that even to my young eyes was quite obviously poisonously harmful.

And I could tell is incredibly destructive to the fabric of a nation to try to separate students based on race. Just the way that history was taught to always be the way that history was taught in my high school. Everything America did was always wrong, uniquely wrong.

And we should spend the rest of our lives punishing ourselves as a result. There was no patriotism in the way that history was taught whatsoever. No effort at all to make students understand how exceptional of a country we live in and what a noble heritage we've inherited. So I think all of that, I've always been a nonconformist. And so, yeah.

The effect of all of the attempted indoctrination was to solidify my conservative pro-American worldview and also to really make me want to be engaged in politics as a full time proposition, which then took me to to to speed this up, which then took me to Duke University, where I

I continued my youth activism. And then after I graduated from Duke University, I got my first job on Capitol Hill as press secretary for Michelle Bachman at the tender age of 22. I spent the next near decade

in a variety of jobs on Capitol Hill, including a very enjoyable stint running comms for the Judiciary Committee in the Senate for the Republican side.

Then in 2015, I first reached out to the Trump campaign. I mean, within hours of him announcing to say that I wanted to join and lend my services. And I began volunteering in the summer and fall of 2020, 2015.

And then I became a full-time, I quit my job on Capitol Hill and moved to, or I didn't move yet. I relocated. I was traveling over the country. I relocated to New York and eventually got fired.

Long term housing there. But I relocated to New York to work full time for the Trump campaign in January of 2016 before the before the Iowa caucus. And it was not crystal clear that Donald Trump was going to win at that point. I mean, that was quite a leap of faith because you had some safety, security, some background working on that. What what did you see in Trump that said, hey, yeah, oh, this is my guy. This is what we need.

well first of all to that point i think it it's easy to forget how revolutionary of a candidate trump was because things in hindsight have a way of seeming inevitable right uh that's a pretty normal bias that you have as you go through history is things that were revolutionary um when they happened you look back and like oh it was always inevitable uh trump dethroned

the ruling establishment of the republican party the republican party resisted him the ruling powers in the party resisted him fiercely not only in iowa not only in new hampshire and south carolina as you remember well fought him all the way up to and through the convention and they continued trying to get rid of him after the convention he um and you know i mean

As an example, the then leading figure, a leading figure at the time in the GOP, Paul Ryan, either unendorsed him or canceled his endorsement or whatever it was, just a few weeks out from the election. As an example, there was a lot more of that than just what happened with Paul Ryan. But the point is that

Donald Trump completely transformed the Republican Party. But when I saw his announcement, and there was nothing at all that was certain about how any of that would work out because none of that had ever happened before. No man had ever stepped into either party before and completely reformed it from within. In this case, turning it from

And, you know, for those of us who worked on Capitol Hill when I did, it was something you saw every day. Turned it from a vehicle for donor class and Beltway class sentiment into a working people's party. I knew from when he announced in June, I knew.

that he was going to win. And I couldn't wait to join. But there was nothing at all inevitable about it. He had to fight, scrap, and claw his way to the top of that mountain. And of course, as we now know, the fight never stopped. We talked about some of the hoaxes, of course, in the course of this. And now, of course, we have the lawfare, too. He has never, never stopped fighting.

Yeah. To represent the forgotten people of this country. Not one day. You're listening to Jason in the house. We'll be back with more of a conversation with Stephen Miller right after this. From the Fox News Podcast Network. Hey there, it's me, Kennedy. Make sure to check out my podcast, Kennedy Saves the World. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.

And it's amazing the energy that he brings to it. You saw it every day. I've seen glimpses of it up close and personal. And it's...

But, you know, that's what it takes to be the president of the United States. And you've had a unique seat in that. Now, before we lose you here, because we only got so much time, I got to ask you a few rapid questions. All right. And you're not going to be properly prepared for these, but I know you can do it. I know you can do it. All right. First concert you attended.

Wayne Newton in Las Vegas. Wow. That's impressive. Wayne Newton. There's one for the books. All right. What was your high school mascot? Vikings. Yeah, because there were a lot of Vikings where you were growing up, right? I mean, that makes a lot of sense. What was your very first job? Like...

My first job was phone banking for a GOP fundraising firm. Man, you've been all in since the beginning. That's impressive. Phone banking. All right. I was cold calling. I was cold calling people I'd never spoken to in my entire life who had FEC records saying they'd written the check before, trying to convince them to donate to various House and Senate campaigns. I mean, that's good for you. You know, that's all in at a young age. I'm impressed.

All right. Pineapple on pizza, yes or no? Yes. Steve, we were on a roll. I was highly impressed until we got to... It's not like something I'm doing every day, but if you gave me the option, I'd be happy to have it. If it was pizza and we put it down in front of you, you would eat it? It's not like my top five, but I'm not one of these people who would ever say I wouldn't eat it. No. I understand...

I understand the appeal. My go-to would be just straight up cheese pizza, but I'm not going to hit on pineapple. All right. Well, I kind of, I kind of hate on pineapple. I like it. I just don't like it on my pizza. That that's all. Favorite item at Taco Bell.

The crunchy, cheesy Gordita. Yeah. There's a shell on the outside layer of cheese and the crunchy taco. It's all about texture. You have to understand texture when you're when you're dealing with comfort food. And it's that way that you start off with that soft shell and then you get that satisfying crunch with the gooey cheese in between. It's as close to fast food heaven as you're going to get.

Spoken like a veteran of Taco Bell. So you're true to my heart there because you can tell how people answer that on the frequency. There was a time in my life when I would legitimately go to Taco Bell and get like five or six tacos and just plow through them. But I was in my 20s and I had a 20-year-old metabolism.

In my current stage and age of life, I have to choose my moments. Yeah. Well, and you also had a 20-year-old budget because Taco Bell used to be like, okay, I got six bucks. What can I do? And yeah, then you could get five tacos back then. That was before Biden and inflation made fast food into a luxury. Oh, I know. I went to Five Guys. I got a cheeseburger and fries. Didn't even get a drink. And it was $18.50. And I'm like, you got to be kidding me.

Well, I have to go back real quick. I know it's a wrap-up, but I have to bookend this thing. So when I was a kid, my family took me to Las Vegas, and I got to see Wayne Newton in concert, which also my dad, to show you how staying power Wayne Newton had, when my dad was a little kid, his mom took him to see a Wayne Newton concert when he was a little kid. And then when Donald Trump campaigned in Las Vegas, the Treasure Island in 2016,

Who was backstage to cheer us on but none other than Wayne Newton? And I got to go up and tell him that he was the first person I ever saw in concert. That is pretty cool. I hope you got a good picture. I did. Yeah, I do have it. It's on my phone right now. That's awesome. All right, last question. Best advice you ever got? The best advice I ever got was probably to judge a man by his enemies.

Interesting. Interesting. And I don't want to say I'm not trying to end it on a dark note. But what that's meant to say is that when you have to when you have the courage to fight truly bad, wicked forces, you're going to accumulate some very sinister enemies in this country. Right. Or any country for that matter. And when a person has all of the right people opposing them.

You know that you're dealing with a true force for good. And so to bring this all home, when you have people like these Soros prosecutors, these corrupt Soros prosecutors trying to take out Donald Trump, when you have these corrupt deep state actors trying to frame and defame Donald Trump, when you have the communists, the leftists, the antifas, the Hamas lovers trying to stop Donald Trump,

That tells you that he's fighting for truth and justice and good and righteousness in this country.

No, well said. Yeah, there's so much to that. Stephen Miller, American First Legal, assistant to the president and a great conservative voice out there. Love seeing you on Fox and appreciate the passion you bring to the fight because it is a fight. And I like what Margaret Thatcher said. First, you got to win the argument, then you can go win the vote. And to be in the arena and being able to make that argument the way that you have today

You're certainly having a huge, huge impact. And I can see why President Trump was so attracted to your skill set to be part of that team in a very unique position. So thanks for joining us on the Jason House podcast. I do appreciate it. I look forward to talking to you again very soon. Very good. Stephen Miller, everybody. Thank you. God bless.

Well, thanks, everybody, for listening. Appreciate Steve for all the time. He's a little busy on the campaign right now and his America First legal efforts. So I really do appreciate him taking time there. I want to encourage you to rate the podcast. Would love it if you do that. I also want to remind you, you can listen to ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple podcasts. And Amazon Prime members can listen to this show ad free on the Amazon MusicPack.

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