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Yay. Yay. Do you need to get some energy in here? Jesus. Oh, I was just saying. Do you like jumping jacks? I've had like, I've been having this horrible stomach problem. Oh, your stomach hurts. I have a tummy ache. Okay. I have a tummy ache, but I'm going to fight through it.
Because we've been fighting through the earthquake today. That was a big deal. Thank you so much for bringing that up. We are all survivors in this room. Yes, definitely. Where were you guys when the earthquake happened? And this happened just a few hours ago, by the way. I was in the shower and I got out of the shower and I looked down at my phone. And when I looked at my phone, I saw that there was an earthquake.
Because I didn't feel the earthquake. But your phone, like, knew that it had happened. Yeah. And was like, Jason, you're scared. There was like a aliens are coming notification. Yeah, I got that too. Like 30 minutes after the fact. It was like beep, beep, beep. Yes. An hour ago there was an earthquake. Cool, thank you, thank you. I feel so much safer now, yeah. You didn't feel it at all? No, no. That seems like a little hard to believe. You felt it?
So I don't want to make anyone's experience. Yeah. I feel like you don't, don't diminish my experience. I don't want to diminish yours. I'm still dealing with the trauma. Totally. Maybe it's like, just like an after effect. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just literally, it's like terminology Richter scale. Right. Yeah. I think my experience maybe was more traumatic. I'm sorry. Okay. Well, what happened? So,
I believe the higher up you are, you feel the effects more. You feel like the sway of... Yeah. Right. Is that true? You got to tell us. I mean, I was on the ground floor. I felt it. I was like, I just didn't even realize I live above a subway station. And then it just like kept going. And I was like, I don't live above a subway station. Okay. Yeah. I posted on my story. I want to show you guys actually.
Me purchasing a parachute off of Amazon. Smart. That is smart. If you're on the 60-something floor, I feel like having a parachute would help. Did you provide a link? No.
I didn't because I need to put it as one of those Amazon affiliates so that I can make money off the parachute link. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, of course. But they're like $1,500. Parachutes are no joke. They're expensive. But are they parachutes like some of them you have to be like really high up for it to work? Yeah. Will this parachute work? I have no clue. I'm going to YouTube it. Okay.
I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna test it once to make sure it works. You'll know if it works or not.
Maybe I'll get one of those squirrel suits. You guys have seen those, right? I feel like they're in a Mission Impossible movie or something. Yeah, this is starting to make a lot of sense. I would buy the squirrel suit because you know that's working right away. Or it's not working. I've heard there's been a lot of people who have died doing the squirrel suit thing. Yeah, but also a lot of people have died in earthquakes. Thank you. They were all squirrel suited up. I don't know that things... People die tying their shoes, too. You got to think about it. You could die any time, man.
It's true. I think I can go ahead and give you guys an intro. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. That's always something good to do. 40 minutes in. Well, yeah. Who the hell are they even? The earthquake has me all fucked up, like, you know? But Jason and Duran from the Good Liars Tell the Truth podcast, but you're more well known for the Good Liars. It was a show.
Well, it's like we have social media channels and we've done shows and things like that. We also do live shows. But a lot of the stuff we do are videos, interviews, as well as pranks on politicians. We've pranked a lot of politicians over the years. I looked at everything. And can we jump into the first one on my list? Trump is boring prank. Yes. But I want you guys to...
Kind of describe to me. No? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Like, what... How'd you get in there? You guys were, like, front row while Donald Trump was...
Yeah. Yeah. We got there. We knew we needed to get there a little bit early if we wanted a good spot. And we were in New Hampshire and it was like negative 10 degrees or some crazy thing in January. But people were wearing like cargo pants. Cargo shorts. Outfit cargo shorts. In line. It was like a really interesting crowd. So we knew it was going to be good. Yeah. We got in there and we kind of had a couple other plans of things that we might want to do. And we always go in with a couple options. Yeah.
But like you wait there in line and then you wait there for the speakers to start. And then there's like a speaker and another speaker and another speaker. And then Donald Trump and he does his like –
Favorite lines. Yeah, he's gonna build the wall. Yeah, Hillary we're gonna we're gonna Hillary for prison We're gonna Obama you're gonna be fired we're firing you and it's like the same lines if you've watched one Trump speech or you've heard him speak He's just like saying the same stuff over and over again. Everyone the crowds loving it. Yeah after like 30 minutes
Devram turns to me and is like, I'm so bored right now. This is so boring. And we had like a plan to do something at the very end. And then we kind of talked about it. We were like, actually,
Actually, if we like yelled boring right now, that would hurt his feelings worse than anything. That's what jumped out to me. There's no insult that would hurt Donald Trump more than the boring. Yes. Yes. And it did. His face like kind of dropped. You can see in the video when he's like, am I seriously being called boring in front of all my friends right now?
And then we just kind of kept yelling. We were like, entertain us. Like, we're here to be entertained. Tell some jokes. Yeah, tell a joke. Like, what's going on here? And we just stuck with it, which is kind of what we ended up doing in some of these breaks. Let's just start repeating it. Once you start, it's hard to stop. Yeah, you gotta be like, what? Bored. Bored. Then you guys just started screaming bored. Yeah. Yeah. And then he...
was like, it was interesting because at the beginning of the speech, while he's like saying all of his like lines, we were kind of like egging him on and like saying the lines before him. And then he was like pointing at us being like,
These guys are great. I love these guys. We were buddies for 30 minutes. And after this happened, he was like, those guys, I hated those guys. They got a drinking problem. Those guys. Tried to call us drunks. Oh, so he just blamed it on alcoholism. He didn't even see that he was for real getting pranked. Yeah. You know when you see someone who's like totally not willing to look at themself?
and improve. You know what I mean? He was boring. It was true. Yeah. But he was not going to accept that. He thought... He tried to blame it on a substance abuse problem. Right. But we don't think he does, right? He doesn't drink alcohol. No. No, I don't think so. No, he is boring. He is... He definitely can be boring. And we don't know what happens behind closed doors. I'm not putting anything out there. I'm just saying. I don't think...
He drinks. If I had to bet. Okay, okay. Substances. Diet Coke. Diet Coke. We know he drinks a lot of Diet Coke. Thank you. Beckham, you riled up. I'm from Utah. Trust me. If anyone knows that caffeine. Where in Utah? I'm from close to Utah. Where? Grand Junction, Colorado. Oh, okay. Where are you from?
Salt Lake City, Utah. But you guys don't have quite the Mormon presence. We got a pretty good Salt Lake Mormon presence. Is that true? Yeah, big time. Okay. But you knew that about Utah? Oh, yeah. The Mormons? Yes. Yes. Yes. The Mormons. They would come back from their mission. That's not a derogatory thing. Is that not what people... Mormons. I could have said Mormons. I'm sorry.
I'm getting canceled now. This sucks. The Mormons. Big Mormons going to cancel me right now. They won't. They would come back from their missions and invite me to church. Oh. You know, that was always like a hard. It's a tough thing to turn down. Church of Latter-day Saints. Yeah, it's a church. Yeah. Church of Jesus Christ. Of Latter-day Saints. And it's an all day affair. All day affair. You're there for a minute. So you grew up in Mormon. So I did kind of. So my grandma is Jewish.
converted to Mormonism, which is just... You don't find a lot of those. You don't. For my grandpa. Then they left Argentina and went to Buenos Aires, Argentina to Orem, Utah.
That you find a lot of, I think. That's probably a pretty common transplant if you're... That was some culture shock for them. And then, but then my mom threw me in private Catholic school my whole life. Oh, interesting. Interesting. So I'm a little bit fucked up. You're well-versed. Oh, cool.
Well, thank you. See, this is the therapy I need. She's trying to build you up. Thank you. I need to look at things from that lens. Devram is the glass half full type of guy between the two of us. In life. In life, maybe. In the country, I think I am the glass half empty. Yeah, that's the thing. I always think the worst is going to happen. Actually, that's not true. Sometimes you think the worst is going to happen and you're right. But in life, you're a glass half full type of guy. That's right. Yeah.
I love that. I call this not an earthquake, but an earth shiver. Oh, okay. Okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, for me, it was an earthquake, but I know for you guys, it was more of a shiver. It was a shower for me, actually. Just a normal shower. Inner shower. That's brilliant. Speaking, I want to know about the dynamic between you two because...
You get in these very high intense situations. Yeah. Have you guys ever, like, which of the two of you is going to ever freak out and be like, we got to leave this mission or really get into it? And it no longer becomes kind of this. I don't know. It depends on what it is, right? Neither of us has ever really freaked out and not gone for it. It's just the version of what happens. Like, sometimes it's like,
Am I yelling from the crowd, which is a little easier? Am I walking right up to the person? I think we both have this thing somewhere in our brains that like doesn't work. There's like a shut off switch that is broken. Small amygdala. The amygdala? You have a small amygdala.
It's tiny. I knew it. I didn't know what it was, but... You know what they say about small amygdalas. I have no idea. Finish it. Finish it. Finish it. Finish it. No, but you guys have seen Free Solo. I was just going to say that. Yes. Okay, so that's what he was diagnosed with or whatever? Yes. Okay. All right. What was his name? His name was Solo. And I think his first name was Free. No. Not Solo. That's definitely not it. No. But he had a small amygdala. I don't remember his name. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe. We'll figure it out. But I don't know. I'll just move my mouth so you can put it in. But before we go up, Devram, I like feel like I've like
You can like feel your heart like I could feel my heart like beating out of my chest I wasn't implying that it's not really intense that being said like we trying to figure out exactly what you're gonna do realizing that most of the people around you are gonna be very Unhappy about it. Sometimes those people are police officers or Secret Service agents, so it's definitely intense Mm-hmm, but I think both of us tend to to go for it in those moments So you said your heart beats really fast. Yes, I
Do you ever take propranolol or Klonopin? No. Okay. I will say, for the record, we have been sober for every single break. That's exactly right. Okay. Literally, I don't think. Have you ever gone arrested? Yes, we got arrested one time, not far from here, in New York City. And I want to preface this by saying, at the time, we had...
interrupted and had interactions with Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, all of these presidential candidates. Some of them were like current governors or senators. We'd never got arrested during that whole time. We were held by the secret service, never arrested. I was handcuffed at Rubio, right? But immediately released. I think they put their, I don't think they actually put handcuffs on you, but they, I don't want to say that's right. That's absolutely true. I'm not sure, but we did all this stuff. And then in 2016, uh, at Santa con,
here in New York City. You're familiar with Santa Con? Yes. Do you love it? Okay, good. Then you maybe would appreciate this. Don't offend me, DeVrom, please. Don't be so easily offended. We did a bit where DeVrom was a Republican wearing a MAGA hat. I was a Democrat with a hat that said fine-ass feminist. And the only thing we could agree on
is that Santa con is terrible and it should be canceled. And we put up flyers. They ended up getting on the news. We went on in character on the news being like, this is terrible, which we do believe is terrible, but we were in character. Then the day of Santa con, while they're all gathering there, we got up with a megaphone and we're like, Santa con's canceled. Get on New Jersey transit, Long Island railroad, get out of here and go home. And cops come and they take us away. And we've been let out by cops so many times at this point in this year. Um,
and as they're taking us away i feel like my hands go behind my back and handcuffs go on and i'm like we're getting arrested right now this is not good devron was in a movie and and was supposed to be on set later that night like four hours later and there's there's like this picture of me in a maga hat and jason in his finance feminist hat as they're cuffing both of us and i'm just looking at him like
you said this was going to be fine. And then we're like in the back of a van being like, okay, so we're really doing this. But you tried to talk your way out of it, which was the funniest part. Rob's like talking to the cops like, guys, this is so silly. Like they're going to pull the car over and like let us out right then. Yeah.
It didn't work. It did not work. We go. They put us in a jail cell. Okay, so you were booked in. We were locked up. Orange jumpsuit? No orange jumpsuit. But they took our belt away, took the shoelaces off our shoes, and we're just sitting there.
You know why that is. Do not kill yourself. Trigger warning. We were pretty low at the time, so I'm glad they took those things away. Yes. Yeah, it was a low moment. It was not fun, but you stand for something, you fall for anything. SantaCon's terrible, and we don't regret doing that. We're glad to be in the presence of someone who gets out bad. You get it.
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I want to know what your reasonings were, but what's more shocking to me is that you get arrested at SantaCon and you've been in front of major, the biggest politicians in the world. And it's like, what do they do? They're just like, go home. Oh.
I think Santa has a lot more power than maybe we all realize. Yeah, it's big Santa. No, I don't... That's a great point. I think it's like also like the NYPD just like doesn't fuck around. Like they're just like, we're just gonna throw you in jail. You could have caused a problem here and we don't want to deal with it. And they're not worried about whatever image they need to be at a political rally. Like, oh, let's keep everyone calm. We don't need a story about someone getting arrested at this rally. I think in New York City, they were like, you might...
get like these drunk Santas angry and they might like be 9.30 in the morning, which is crazy. They were hammered. But it really is the worst day. But they really arrested you for your safety. Yeah.
I don't think so. There were a few factors. Think about you two against all the Santas. We could have taken them. I mean, yes. We would have destroyed them. There's thousands of them. But they're so drunk. That's true. They're so drunk. Beyond drunk. Yeah. So let's talk about the 2024 election. Yay. Yay.
So, sleuths who are watching, well, you should be watching, subscribe, slash listening. You guys are going to kind of teach the sleuths, as well as myself, some shit so we can be ready for the election. Yes. Hopefully. Hopefully. I mean, I don't know. We're going into this in a different way than I think 2020 and 2016, where it's like,
In 2020, there was like a big desire to get Trump out. And a lot of people are still really afraid of Trump. And I think rightfully so. But now it's like this is an election that like no one really wants. It feels like. Yeah. I don't know. When somebody brings up the 2024 election, what is the first thing that comes to your mind? I don't think people are anywhere near as tuned in as they were the last election for sure. Right. Which is bad. Bad news. Yeah. Well, what do the sleuths want to know?
So who is running for president? Oh, good. Let's start there. Geez. We got to remember everybody. There's Verne Supreme, Dean Phillips. No. Now there is... Those are real candidates. Those are real candidates. Those are real candidates.
It's Donald Trump, Joe Biden are the two frontrunners. And then there's Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Who's pulling around like 10%. So that's a spoiler in a tight election that matters a lot. Yeah. Wow. So it's but it's, you know, it's Joe Biden who is 81 years old and Donald Trump was what, 78, 77 or eight. And that is those are two elderly gentlemen. So one of them's pretty old. And then the other one tried to overthrow Trump.
An election. Yes. Was arrested. For power. Yes. He was arrested. He was booked in. Right. Turned himself in in Georgia and in multiple places. Multiple places. Yeah. So, yeah, I feel like that's the choice. One guy's kind of old and the other guy tried to steal a presidential election. Yeah. So it's it's.
I don't know. I think it's an interesting... So it's Robert. Well, we didn't... Oh, no. Is that what we just did? He's an anti-vaxxer. What else has he done that's... Well, the interesting thing about him is he's taking his campaign very seriously. And he did that by saying that Aaron Rodgers at one point was at the top of his list for vice presidential office.
to share the ticket with. So that's how serious of a guy this is. Aaron Rodgers, like the athlete? The football, yes. The anti-Baxter athlete. He was like, this is the guy that's going to push us over the edge. Now he ended up choosing someone else.
because Aaron Rodgers said that Sandy Hook, the horrible shooting at the school, didn't really happen and it was a bunch of crisis actors. Okay. So that's kind of part of the problem with the... You said that... We should add an allegedly there because that is like secondhand information. Okay, allegedly. But just to give you an idea... I love throwing... More for you than for allegedly. I love just throwing an allegedly randomly throw. That's smart. That's smart. That's legally very smart. Yes, allegedly. So,
So he's a bit of a conspiracy theorist-y guy. Yes, but he also loves the environment. And so people get turned on to someone who wants to save the planet, especially at a time where that seems to really matter. He does have some good things to say, but if you dig a little deeper, it's not so great. So I think the biggest question for me is, is he as hot as...
as the people before him who have been president. Hot? Like attractive? Yes. Who? RFK Jr.? I think JFK was. Oh, I see what you're saying. Well, here's the deal. Did he follow in their footsteps? I'll say Senate allegedly before this, too. There's a video of him with his shirt off. This is a 70-year-old guy, mind you. Oh, he's 70. Yeah, he's Robert F. Kennedy's son.
And he, there's a video of him with his shirt off cranking some pushups and he stands up and the guy holding the camera says, that's a fit boy. And he is a fit boy. He is jacked. So I would say, I don't know of like, I would say he's got a great bod. I don't know if he's like, he's not. I think, yes. I think the short answer is yes.
I just don't know that he's I guess I haven't seen him in his youth. I just don't know if he's but like JFK Jr. really handsome fellow. Very handsome. He's a fit boy. Did he post that video? He did or some I think so. I think he did. Allegedly posted that video. No, I don't know who posted it. We talked about it on our podcast last week. We showed the video. I was like
Yeah, it was. And the fit boy is. That's like whoever's filming. Yeah, which makes it. And it's clearly they have like a funny like workout partnership thing happening, it seems like, allegedly. Allegedly. So he's like, that's a fit boy. Title of this episode. And he's, you know, RFK Jr. is very proud. He does do the thing, though, where you only see like the last like four push-ups. So you're like, I don't know if he did more than four push-ups. I don't know. I can't prove that. It's like 1,002, 1,003. Yeah, 1,003.
He's like every influencer. Like, it's not real. Right. Yeah. You just need the moment. You just need your buddy calling you a fit boy. Fit boy. Fit boy. Every influencer and every politician, right? They have a lot of similarities. Yeah. I would say it's kind of the same. I mean, it's a little bit of the same thing. A little bit. Very different. Some, like, major similarities, I'd say. Yes. Donald Trump's kind of an influencer. Yeah.
Yeah, I would say he was like that's what he was what he was on Twitter getting everyone angry and and angry enough to and also he's like whatever he said he'll he'll go he is like products but they're not like check out this new makeup or whatever he's like I got steaks check out Trump's steaks. Oh Trump University. He had Trump University. I remember steaks is wild. Yeah. Yeah.
And he promotes those like just in the middle of an election. That's defunct now, right? That's defunct. But he's doing like, he'll do, what's it called? He had like NFTs. Shoes. Golden shoes that you could buy.
So, yeah, he's selling stuff, too. People said they like the shoes, so I don't know. I don't know. Damn. I want to check those out. Are they a sneaker? They're a sneaker. They look like the Yeezys or something. They're like Dunks, kind of. Yeah. Does he wear sneakers? No, he wears shoes with lifts, I believe.
Allegedly. I should say that again. Allegedly. Allegedly. And a girdle. And a girdle. Allegedly. Allegedly. A girdle I could see for sure. Because he leans forward in a really odd way because he's propped up on his alleged lifts. His girdle's kind of holding him and pushing him forward allegedly. Yes. It's a weird thing to see if you look at him from the side. Oh, from the side. But...
All that to say, he has authoritarian tendencies, and I think that we might be in some really dark times if he's elected president. Thank you. That was a great way to wrap it up. Could you guys just quickly talk about some of the other stipulations that come with it being an election year? What to expect is that as spring turns to summer, it's going to be all that you're going to see on the news. And
The campaigns are going to kick into like really high gear. And everyone's going to be so sick of it by the time early November rolls around. Do people get angrier? Like is there like there's more anger around that time? There has to be. I think so. I think so. I mean if...
2020 is any indication. There was a lot of people with guns showing up. The anger peaks are on January 6th, it turns out. Yes, yes. But this time it'll be January 8th, I think, is when they're certifying the election. Oh, that's the storm in the Capitol. Transfer of power and the storming of the Capitol. And I think this year, or next year, we should say it's going to be on January 8th. I think we looked that up, allegedly. So if they are trying to stop the election from being certified again, that would be the day.
For the regular tourist visit. Yes. Okay. Let's talk about January 6th. Yes. Is there a reason that we refer to it as January 6th and not Storm the Capitol Day? No.
I guess it's not Storm the Capitol Day in your calendar, right? It is in mine now. It could be. Yeah. If Donald Trump wins, it might just be like a holiday. Like this is the greatest day, Freedom Day or Patriots Day or whatever. But for now, it's January 6th just because it conveniently was on January 6th. And I guess it doesn't say whether you hate it or love it. It just says when it was. But I think the next election...
It'll get a name. Yeah. We were at January 6th, not to brag, or maybe that's what you're, we're moving to that part of the conversation. We were, we were there and we like debated whether or not we were going to go. We got there on the 5th. And when we got to DC, I got a text from my mom that was like,
do not go to DC tomorrow. I knew it was going to be a foreboding text. Why do moms like, it's always like a cryptic, scary. She was so right. But I, a little bit of a technicality, but I wasn't going to DC tomorrow. I was already there at that point. That's what I wanted to ask you guys. How were you guys miraculously at the scene?
If you were paying attention at all. Not to plant anything. No, no. You got some insider info. Why did the FBI tell us to go there? No. Like if you were paying attention around that time, it was like Trump was tweeting about it and people were gathering. I think in D.C. like only a week and a half earlier or something, there had been like some semi-violent protests.
clashes. And then that was the big day. That was when they were certifying the election. So it had this feeling that something was going to happen. I don't think we could have anticipated anything like what happened, but I think we thought there would be, you know, we knew Trump was holding this big rally and that there would be like some counter protesters and that things could get really tense. But definitely not. We did not see
Anything like what was going to happen. But that's why we were there the day before we arrived. We saw the people, the militias and the Proud Boys. Is that when you did the interview? Yeah.
He, the interview was the day of the interview was probably about an hour before all that went down. When Trump was coming on stage in the background, you can hear is like, I'm proud to be an American. It's the song that always plays them on stage is like during that interview. So that was the moment things like started. But we did feel like the night before we were staying at a hotel.
Yours truly, D.C. is where we were staying, which is kind of like a hipster hotel or whatever. But it was filled with Trump supporters. And when we were trying to sleep that night, we started hearing screams from the other rooms of people like,
And people that we were like sharing Elvira's with, they're wearing like bulletproof vests and camo and all this stuff. They were like screaming like, we're taking it back tomorrow. It's 1776. Let's go. And like playing like this, like metal music. And like, it's like, you know, you know, there's a bunch of drinking and.
going on and like getting ready for whatever was going to happen. So it's like they were getting ready for like battle or something. It almost would have been weird at that point if they had just peacefully listened to a speech and gone home. Like people took buses with all their friends and drank a lot and listened to allegedly. Allegedly. We could say that. No, I think that you can. That was firsthand experience. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm just throwing it in there just for legal purposes. I just want to help us all out. Yeah.
I... That sounds fucking terrifying. And that was the night before. It was the night before. The night before. And then we got up in the morning and, like, the streets had been kind of crowded the day before, but then it was just, like, flooded with people. And...
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And so your guys' reaction to that was, let's bring out a microphone and ask people. You guys titled the interview, Biggest Collection of Losers Interview. Yeah, we were very reactionary too. I guess our feeling at the time was, you know, Donald Trump is not
he's refusing to admit that he's a loser and he's built his whole personality on being this winner and I'm a winner and I'll never lose. And then like he lost the election and everybody, his own attorney general was like, you lost the election, man, it's, it's over. And he just wouldn't accept it. So we kind of took it out a little bit on the situation there. But so we, if you can tell, we have some misgivings a little bit about like calling everyone who's their losers. But then I think back on it and
I'm like, but then, you know, an hour later they would like overrun police officers and like rub shit on the walls of the U S Capitol. So,
So maybe it was fair. It's fair. Yeah. At the time, maybe you felt a little guilty. Not at the time. No, no, no. Like days later, like, oh, just call the biggest gathering of losers, huh? And then it's like, I'm processing this. It's like the earthquake. Uh-huh. You know, you need some processing time to figure out how you feel about it. Did you ever think about calling your podcast...
The biggest gathering of losers. The two of us. Because I think that would have been a great name. The smallest gathering of losers. Just the two of us. It's okay. We couldn't even get other losers to join us. Just two losers. I have to say no, we did not consider that, but I have to say we will. We will now. Pretty good name for a podcast. Yeah, it's a pretty good one. Like you have the sleuths, we have the losers. Yes. Yes, I'm sure your listeners would love to be in that category. They would love that. They would love that.
Has anyone ever been able to see through the facade and maybe called you out and been like, I don't know if you are a real Trump supporter here? Well, it depends. I mean... Not that you're not a real Trump supporter. Yeah, say what you really think. Uh...
People have gotten angry with us most of the time where we ask questions and then it's really just like asking questions. They're very loaded. Yeah. Sometimes people have a way of thinking about things that they have just from being in their echo chamber. It's the same with Democrats too to a certain extent, like liberals and circles just being in your bubble and
you ask a question that makes you like, think about it. Your first instinct is to be defensive about it. So people do get upset with us sometimes. Yes. And people, lots of politicians have gotten upset with us like several times, but also like less and less do we pretend to be Trump supporters and go into a, a
a pro-Trump event. Like we did some of that at the beginning, but as things have progressed, it's like, we'd rather just be there documenting it and talking to people and asking tough questions. And so there's not really anything to discover about us. Sometimes, like Jason said, people do get like mad because we're pressing them on, on stuff. But, um, for the most part, we're not lying about who we are. Like question their own beliefs or question...
Well, has that one ever happened? I feel like every once in a while. Three times. I don't know. It counted on my hand. I feel like a couple times. I don't know that it's been like lasting questioning. No, I think sometimes you were asking if we are questioned about who we are. Basically, has anyone ever been like,
I smell a rat in here. Totally. And it's those two get out. Like that kind of thing. Kind of, but like, I don't know. We can be here.
We're allowed to be here, but you leave. So I don't know. That's kind of been our outlook. Every once in a while, we're like, oh, this person seems a little worked up. We'll move on. And in general, though, we're there asking questions, and sometimes people will say they don't want to talk. Of course, we just move along. So it's really people who want to be talking, and we prepare a few questions and see what the answers are related to what's going on. Especially if somebody has an out-there belief. Or a crazy T-shirt on. Yeah.
Tell us about why you chose to wear that today. Tell me. Explain a crazy t-shirt. Well, we saw... One time we saw... And this is like a very common thing. We were talking about the Kennedys before. There's a very common belief in like the Trump circles that...
that JFK Jr. is alive and well and is currently working with Donald Trump. You know, JFK Jr. died in 1999 in a plane crash. It's been documented. But he was frozen like Walt Disney. Yes. Okay. So you're familiar with this conspiracy. You're the one who's been writing them online. Did you make that shirt? Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. So one time I saw a guy that had that shirt on and I started talking to him. And then the woman he was with was like,
by the way, Biden is not Biden. There are a lot of people playing him. One of them is Jim Carrey. And I was like, it was just a moment of like,
I thought we were going to go in and talk about JFK Jr., which is wild. But now you're like hitting me with like a haymaker of this of Jim Carrey. And that, for the record, was was in 2022. Right. Yes. And the shirt said 2021. So Trump, JFK Jr., 2021. So it had already not come to pass. I was like, the shirt says 2021 is like he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We missed the year. And I was like, you think it's going to happen again this time? And he was like, definitely it's happening this year. So are these like homemade shirts they're making, would you say? That one was. That one was. But there's like definitely a marketplace for this stuff. Yeah, if you want to put it in a story or whatever, if that's what you're wondering. Yeah, maybe get a free shirt. So what would the website be? Um.
For shits and giggles, just because I want to peruse. Goodliarstore.com. You can go there. That's perfect. Goodliarstore.com. We do have a Biden JFK Jr. shirt that sold quite well. Oh, yeah. And a Let's Fuck Brandon shirt that sold great. Okay. Because everyone was saying, let's go, Brandon.
It was like their pro-Trump thing, but they would also say, fuck Joe Biden. And so we combined it. Let's fuck. So they didn't have to say both things. Oh. Let's fuck Brandon. That sold thousands and thousands of shirts. It's a great election year gift, I think. Especially for the Brandons in your life. Yeah.
Especially for Brandon. That's very witty. Yeah. And really fucking funny, by the way. We're going to actually do the craziest segue and talk abortion. Yay! From storming the Capitol to abortion. So I am obviously very pro-choice. You guys did an abortion interview, and there was a guy holding up
massive sign like bigger than everyone else's that said is god pro-life yeah just god is pro-life he was sure he knew it for sure he was certain period yes okay so you guys have this interaction with him he didn't really have much to say no no nearly nothing yes pretty much nothing yeah nothing at all
I mean, the question was a basic question. You always hear that from people who are like trying to take choice away from women. It's like it's in the Bible. God is pro-life. And so we got to listen to the Bible. The Bible is the blueprint for everything.
And he had a giant sign that said, God is for a life. So I just asked him, like, what about Noah when he killed everybody on earth except for Noah and farm animals? And he just didn't have a response to it. And that's been this case we've, like, done with other Bible stories. Like, God...
Kills what 44 children 42 children with bear attack bear attack for making fun of someone. I didn't know. Yeah, okay Bears to kill these kids and That's true definitely Meanwhile you're not supposed to like mix fabrics like if you wear wool and linen or cotton You're like going against the Bible. Well, if God is so Pro-life Then why do we die?
There you go. Hey, you're stumping me now. You're stumping me. I don't have an answer for that. We should be living forever. And the other thing about the flood is that we've talked about with people before is God kills everybody on earth. There had to be pregnant women in there. God probably committed more abortions than anyone in history. Anyone. So...
Right. Thank you. Factual. Factual. And those fetuses done anything to deserve that? God is probably the one. We were saying we were surprised that protests haven't sprung up outside churches. Yeah. People are worshiping the entity that, you know, did more abortions than anyone in history. These people are celebrating. Yeah. It's a little. Maybe we should do a protest. I think maybe you guys should make a sign.
We have a sign that we have a shirt. Well, it's part of our live show. God is pro-choice. We discovered, we actually learned during the show that
That God is pro-choice. Well, and now I know. Now you know. And it's in the Bible. And it's in the Bible. Now it is in the Bible. Now it is. The new version of the Bible. You don't have to see the live show to get it. Leviticus 2013 is now that. It's no longer if a man lives with a man as he lives with a woman, surely he should be put to death.
It's now God is pro-choice. That is the new Leviticus 2013. Is it actually? According to our sources. But the thing that you have to do is if you see a Bible out there. I'm like, is this a fake, new? I mean, yes, but no. It's real to us. If it catches on, it's not fake. Just like the Bible stories in the first place. Exactly. They caught on and now they're real. Everyone believes it's real. So yeah. And if you see a Bible out there, just for anyone listening, cross out
Leviticus 2013 and just write God is pro-choice and your Bible's up to date. It's up to date. Okay, thank you. It's like the DSM 5, 4, whatever DSM we're on now. It should be updated every year. We see it as a living document. It's a living document. A living document. What is it with the Constitution? It's a living Bible? It's a living document? Yeah, I don't know. You can see how much we know. Yeah.
Why do you guys think it's it is crazy to me that in 2024, there is still such a divide over the topic of abortion? Why do you think that is? And why is there no separation of church and state at this juncture? We've asked people about the separation of church and state and a lot of people who are
super pro-life, because kind of don't want there to be a separation between church and state. They're open about that. But if there's one guy I asked, well, do you think church and state should be together? Yes. Well, are you not a constitutionalist then? He's like, no, no, no. I love the constitution. People don't see that as like,
being at odds with each other yeah um there's a lot of mental gymnastics that come with religion yeah but i think it's like to answer the question with it though like i feel like people now like a majority of people are pro-choice like i don't think it's like and even like trump supporters we talk to a lot of them will be like well there's certain situations and it's like well
If you take that right away and make it harder in all of these states, which is what happened with the Dobbs decision, now you're not allowing those situations to – you're not allowing the choice for the woman to be able to like deal with these situations that we're talking about. Right. And then the doctors have to worry about things and it just like –
It's just a nightmare that it's creating for everybody. But I think it's hopefully, you know, in 2024, it's going to be an issue that's going to bring out a lot of people. But I think more people are pro-choice than pro-life. Like the midterm elections in 2022, that was why there was no red wave. And it seemed like because of the Dobbs decision, you saw what Jason was just referring to. A lot of people...
When confronted with it, are pro-choice, you know, 66% of Americans or something. Yeah. So that may play a huge role in this election as well. That is very interesting. So basically, someone needs to create a policy against something and then people will actually vote.
I mean... Stand up and say something and state their opinions and show they care. Yeah, but it's like, it's not... This is not a good thing. No, it's not a good thing at all. It's like getting Trump out is like... It would be better... Like, things would be better if the Dopp decision never happened and women had the right to choose. Right. Like, it would... We would be in a much better state of the country. Also, everything they say about, you know, we're just kicking it back to the states. This is where these decisions should be made. But the net result...
is fewer choices for more people. And IVF getting banned in Alabama. It's like, it's like wild stuff to talk about what you were saying with like the Christian values, like in society, like it's like wild, wild stuff that feels like so regressive. And yeah, like morning after pills that people are like, people are saying, well, then that would stop an embryo from implanting. And now we're like, where do you draw the line? So there was,
something that drew the line and that was the constitutional right to it, which now no longer exists. So now it's all these, these battleground states with trigger laws. So the second it rose overturned, they went to these like really harsh laws that were on the books almost as ways for Republicans to state their religious beliefs without the intention of those actually becoming law. And now they just are. We were going to a Trump rally.
Like we were at the airport at LaGuardia and we were flying to Missouri, to St. Louis, the day the Dobbs decision happened. And while we were in the air, by the time we landed, it was, abortion was illegal in Missouri, even in the case of rape and incest. Like already, by the time we landed, because of the laws that DeVron was talking about. It's bad. It should be a motivating factor for people. Yes. That like disgusts me.
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In Catholic school. Yeah, what did they say to you? They made us watch Dr. Seuss' A Person's a Person No Matter How Small during religion class. Do you remember? Is there like a song or a rhyme to that that you remember? I don't. So I think it's actually the Lorax. Oh, okay. Is it? It was some Dr. Seuss, but they, I mean, we were talking about the issue of abortion. They really will use anything to prove their point. Yes.
Dr. Seuss's name. Right. Well, he is a doctor, so... True. Allegedly. That's more than we are. Yeah, it's true. All together, we're not doctors. Yeah. They also had us play this game that was very bizarre. There was a fake baby...
On a rope. And we had to, like, get the baby to the other side alive. I've never heard of that game being played anywhere else, but... We play that game. Oh, yeah. Rope baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where I'll tug it and you'll tug it. But other than that, never heard of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so, okay. What was the idea, though, that you're saving the baby? And were you, like, the hero of the class if you... I mean, it was... So there were teams and you just had to get it across. Yeah.
I think there was some subliminal but not so subliminal messaging happening there. Not so veiled ideas there. That is bizarre. That's really, yeah. At the March for Life, she did this to both of us, right? This woman came up and put like a...
Fetus silicon silicon fetus in our hands. I was like, I just want you to hold this like is it was it like a stress ball? Yeah Yeah, and we both were like And then he ended it back and like what was this what is this do I feel better. Thank you. Yeah Yeah
Um, yeah, Utah's kind of a crazy place. Just with the Mormonism and then me being in Catholic school, because then the Mormon, there's all types of shit going on there too. Right, right. Like tension between the... No. No.
Because the Mormons outnumber us. Right. No, I'm saying the Mormons because of you. That is so not PC for you to say that. Allegedly. Allegedly. I just don't want to get in trouble with a big Mormon. Allegedly. Utah is pretty, though. It's got, you know, beautiful. Grand Junction, it's like an extension of Utah. It's super conservative. Lauren Boebert is the rep there. Okay. I don't know if you've heard of her. No. Really...
it's it's a really intense place like weed is legal in the rest of Colorado but not in this county okay like it really feels like it looks like Utah I feel like it's just like you're like honorary Utah okay yeah so we we both we connect in that way for sure so you weren't raised Mormon though but you were your friends were many friends yeah okay yeah were they not having sex
I feel like they went one way or the other. They were either like, I'm Mormon, so there's certain things I can't do. Or they were like, there's ways to have sex. Soaking. Yeah. Yeah. There's ways. There's ways around this. Yeah. So it felt like you picked one path or the other. I totally agree with that. Yeah. The Jack Mormon. They just go wild. Do you want to explain this? What that means? I don't know. I'm not familiar with the term. Soaking? Soaking. I know soaking. I know soaking. Okay.
Which there's another one. I can't remember the name. I'll have to look it up where you have your friend go under the bed and put his. You have your friend jump on the bed, I think. Oh, jump on. I heard about he goes underneath, puts his feet on the bottom of the mattress. Effectively the same. Same. But it's the same idea. And God's like, oh, looks like there's just the two of them in there. You fooled me. These kids are smart and that's legal. Let's do it. Let's go with that. Um,
God's looking down. Wow. I can't see through the bed. As far as I know, it's just the two of them and they're not moving. You guys went to a flat earth convention. Flat Toberfest is what it was called. I would love to ask those people about this earthquake today. I would like to ask them. I was thinking the same thing. But why would they think just to play devil's advocate here? Not saying I'm a flat earther.
I'm not saying I'm not. I'm not saying I'm not. Why would that not work in the Flat Earth model? I don't know. I just want to know what it is. So the Flat Earth Convention, people seem to have a variety of opinions, a little bit. But for the most part, the Earth is a flat circle.
Antarctica, that would normally be on the bottom of our globe, is actually a ring around the outside of the Earth with 200-foot-tall walls of ice stopping people from leaving Earth. And over the top is like a hard glass-like orb that keeps everything inside. Okay. So what would be under it? So we're in a snow globe. And then some of them will explain it in that way. Yeah.
So what would be under it? I mean, it's still like the tectonic plates and stuff. Is it like the Mormon kid under the mattress? Yeah, exactly. Just the guy kicking underneath it. That was good. That was good to make that. Full circle there. Full circle, but not full circle. Yes, flat circle. Flat circle. Yeah, because we asked some people like, is the earth round? And they were like, yeah, it's round. It's flat, but it's round. It's round. Yeah. And we talked to one of the guys who's like a
the leader kind of and we're like okay we have a theory what if it's like a map like the earth is a map but it's wrapped around like a ball like thing
for like 30 minutes. He's like, no, you know, see, I see that would explain some things, some physics type thing, but no, that wouldn't work. We just kept on being like, I don't think you understand what we're doing here. It's the same map, but it's around a ball, so it would make sense. Everything would make sense. We were very patient. We were like, we'll start over from the beginning. Obviously, you don't have this. Around a ball.
Now we're satisfied. It's still the same map. You're like, what don't you understand here? He's treating it like a beautiful mind. Like there's all these mathematics involved. He's like, well...
He's like, you know, I can't tell you exactly why that wouldn't work right now, but I can get back to you on that. He was a nice enough guy. I would say also like most of the people there were really, really nice. And there also were no scientists, doctors or teachers there. Not one, not literally. You can ask them and they'll be like, yeah, well, it's very taboo in certain communities to talk about this stuff. And that's why the.
The doctors and the physicists. And they're mean. Right. And they're mean. They're like, you can tell that's part of it too. They're like, they'll make fun of you if you even bring it up, which is how you know you're on to something. Exactly. Where is this convention held? Is it Utah? It was at the Sam's Town Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada, way off the strip, way off the strip. Okay. And like,
a very old, it was like you're going into a different time. It was like you're in the 60s or 70s in there. And like, it was just in like a convention hall there. There was probably, it's probably 500 people there, which is too many to think that the earth is flat. So it's like a, it's a solid group of people and there's speaker after speaker. And just to give you an idea of the things you might hear if you like walk through this room.
We're like walking through trying to figure out what are we going to film next? What are we going to do? And a woman gets on stage and just goes, who drinks their own pee? 50, 60 percent of the people enthusiastically like me. I do. I do. Yeah. Yeah, you do. Please tell me you're you're fucking. No, no, it's real. And then she's like, and do we go to the emergency room? No, we don't. When maybe for like a broken leg or something. But if you're just sick, you just drink your own pee.
Everyone was like, yep, I've been thinking the same thing. I'm glad you're saying it out loud. And here's the thing. When we got back, we were like, let's not say that she's wrong necessarily. We both kind of like had colds from being out there. We did a week of drinking our own pee. No, you didn't. Eight days. Eight days. A little longer than a week. And at the end of it, like we developed like some like dehydration or something. And lesions. And lesions. But the cold went away.
So they're not wrong. They're not wrong. They're not wrong. Can we have you guys done? I want to say not true. Not true. We do not drink our own pee. I don't want that. Oh, laughing my ass off. Okay.
Have you guys done the actual research to know? Yes. Have you? Yes. Because right now I'm seeing like a flat floor. Oh, that's true. They would say, they would say, what does it look like? Well, we are curious people. That's why we do what we do. So we met up with a guy at the convention. We talked to a lot of people and he offered to take us
out to a lake and test it out. By the Hoover Dam. By the Hoover Dam. To see if the earth was flat. And also, while we were at the Hoover Dam, just to go back in time to what you were about to say, he is...
talking to us about how the Earth is flat and then a guy who happened to work in like the Navy, the Dutch Navy, hears him and is like, no, the Earth is not true. I see boats coming over the horizon, which is like because the Earth is round. And he's explaining all this stuff to him. And they're like disagreeing and they're all, it's very like cordial and they're very nice. And then at the end of it, he was like,
Oh, I think the earth is 6,000 years old. And then the Dutch guy was like, I agree with you on that. I think that's true. And I was like, no, that was like the voice of reason. We'd already spent like 45 minutes watching this unfold. And then he's like, yeah, that's true too. We keep walking with this guy. We've driven an hour and a half to get out to the Hoover Dam. And we get a cop comes up to us and says,
because we didn't know if we were in like a restricted area. He's like, hey, what are you guys doing? And then he was like, hey, are you the guy, you're the guys that do those funny videos where you interview those people? Oh, shit. Like in front of the guy. We're like, yeah, yeah, that's us. We're talking to this guy right now about the flat earth. And he's like, oh man, you guys' videos are so funny.
And it was with these people, huh? And I was like, I felt so bad. Because this guy became our friend. Yeah, we liked him. And we ended up doing the test. He had his like Zoom camera. What was the test? Were you guys seeing if you would just keep going and then fall off the earth?
No, that would be, I would love to do that. I would love to go to Antarctica and just like see the ice people have sailed around the earth though. It's a problem with the theory, but anyway, show me the map. I will explain. Basically, if there's a long part of, there's a long area of water, theoretically the water would go with the curvature of the earth.
And if you were seeing a building that was, say, 30 feet tall, but it were far enough across the water, the curvature of the water should obscure the building. There should be a bulge in the water. Got it. So basically all their experiments, almost all their experiments are some variety of this. But the problem is, like, you're just on a beach holding this camera. Yeah, and they're not, like we said before,
These people are not scientists. Like they don't like follow the scientific method for a lot of stuff. So it's like, and so, so we're holding the camera and, um, and,
We kind of got the guy to admit that, like, it was inconclusive. Because there was a little bit of a bulge there. Wow. Spoiler that the Earth is round for everyone out there. The Earth might be round. Might. Might. Allegedly. If you're listening to this and you have some questions, the Earth is allegedly could possibly be round. Okay. I like how you phrased it that way. That way it makes me feel safe, you know? Same. I don't want to be making blanket statements. Yeah. You could get sued by Big Flat Earth at the end of this. Yeah. Bummer. Yeah.
Elon Musk. If we're talking about conspiracies, how do we feel about him? Do we think he is a real person? Well, quick sidebar to go back to Flat Earth. Okay. There at the Flat Earth,
They were selling hats that instead of saying Space X, said Fake X because they don't think space is real. I was going to ask that. And they hate Elon Musk. Even though all these people, like a lot of them are like conservative, Christian. They hate Elon Musk. Those two things you bring them up. They think it's a lie.
See, I thought they were going to be a little bit more understanding and they would just think there's space and then the glass ceiling. Oh, I see what you're saying. That's interesting. They think it's pretty low and they say that there's never been a video of like going up and looking down at Earth and that all the curvature you see are because of fisheye lenses. So if you say like, but NASA pictures, they'll go.
I can't believe you're bringing that up. Like, what about going to the moon? They're like, okay. I got to teach this guy about the moon landing being faked. Great. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, Elon Musk. What a guy. What a guy. It's just a bummer. Libs of TikTok will post some horrible thing. And then Elon will comment like, wow. Interesting. And then as if he's just like interested in this horrible content.
And it's like so thinly veiled, like we all understand he's just drawing millions of eyeballs to this thing. And then it's like weird, plausible deniability because he's got his own opinions and he bought Twitter so he could spread them. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that he's like been like super. I mean, I guess he has been super red pilled, but I don't know like what his actual opinion.
like end game with all the stuff is because it's like not like he's like an idiot. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's that's why I find it confusing. And he, you know, has a very profitable company and like the U.S. government is like dependent on it for like a lot of the satellites that we use and all this stuff. Fake X, fake X. So it's.
I mean, it's odd. It's depressing. I mean, in a way, it was good for me because I'm like, I don't get on Twitter as much anymore. I'm like, oh, this is nice for me personally. Well, let's call it what it is. Oh, X. Excuse me. And it is an X a little bit. Do you think he's real? Your question, you think he might not be real? I think he has a somewhat of a reptilian brain similar to Mark Zuckerberg. And like, when did you know that?
He had that reptilian brain. I'm totally fucking with you, but I think there must have been a moment. I don't like nerds. He's like, I used to give swirlies to kids like that. Nerds that try to not be nerds are even worse. Oh my God. Him in an interview.
Please. Okay. All right. I think he's trying not to be a nerd, though. But he's got all... What's funny about it is he does have, like, all these, like...
Trump supporter type like high school jock guys like love him now like all the kids that would have made fun of him. Because he's selling himself as something different. I think to your point he's like he's like a nerd. Yeah. Like Jason here loves Jason loves pro wrestling so he's like a big nerd. I would say I'm a dork not a nerd though. A dork. I just think that you know sometimes you can try and you can hide it a little bit.
Yeah. Do you think that Elon will actually run for president? No, he can't run for president. Doesn't have enough money? Yeah, he's not rich enough. No, he was born in South Africa.
But Obama was born. Where? According to Donald Trump. Are you going to throw allegedly somewhere? Allegedly. No, where did they say he was born? Donald Trump said he was born in Kenya. Yeah, not they. Excuse me. Donald Trump. Donald Trump said he was born in Kenya, right? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Do we think Elon Musk is a good or bad person?
Bad. I don't like it's like, what do you think? Do I think he has the best intentions for all of humanity? I don't think I don't think so. But I think he has like he tries to have like big picture ideas that are maybe like trying to be innovative and good for the world that were stolen, that were stolen. Yeah. So allegedly, I'm not saying allegedly. I know they were OK.
- Was that your idea? - Yeah. - Sounds like something you wrote in a journal. - I had the idea for a Tesla. - Elon's like parading your journal around the SpaceX facilities and these are where the rockets came from? - Tesla, the whole idea of Tesla. - Was you. - And so what was, in your words, what is Tesla that he stole? - It's an electric car, but it's so much more than that and I would really get into debt with you guys, but I don't wanna overshadow. This is your interview, you know what I mean? - Oh, we don't mind, go ahead.
Explain the ins and outs of it. So it's an electric car, but it's so much more. That's exactly what Tesla is. It is. It's an electric car and it has a big screen on it. It's saving the world. It's an electric car and an iPad in one. A giant iPad. Yeah. Oof. Wow. Was the frunk your idea? Is that his big SUV thing? Silver thing? That's the front trunk.
Of a Tesla because it doesn't need a space for the engine. It's just a battery in the car. Is that it? Okay. You would know. You wrote about it. I'm just curious. You're wondering how I knew about the Prunk. I also was saying that I don't know how to work an iPad earlier. Yeah. And that was his contribution. He put the iPad in. He put the iPad in at the very start. But everything else was me. I believe it.
No questions. He just, he robs ideas and claims them as his own. They're not all stolen from me, but that's just a fact. Originally it was Tesla with an L was the whole name of the company.
Okay. Tesla with an L. Yeah. That was the name of it. Yeah. That one took me like a second and then I caught on. It wasn't good, which is fine. It took me half as long as it took you. So once I caught up, I was like. I didn't even get a pity laugh from Devram. No, because I was trying to observe. Okay, guys. Plug away.
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