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It's Sophia Franklin. You are listening to Sophia with an F and the F is for phenomenal. This podcast is rated F. He says to himself, he's like, I wasn't angry. I wasn't confused. He was turned on. I was impressed. I was like, yeah, girl, I was a dancer. If there's one thing I know how to do, it's how to point my foot and get it to where it needs to go. And it was your chest.
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Hi party people. Welcome to the show. Sophia with an F. If you haven't already, subscribe. I am joined with, by, with, I'm joined by, is it with or by? With? I think with. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. This is Emily Moreno, by the way.
Emily with an E. Or Emily by one E. Honestly, I don't know grammar that well, so. Okay. You can go with it anyway. Well, neither of us do, so we're fucked. But you know what? We're good. People are not tuning in to listen to, like, the grammar police. They are tuning in because of how hot we are. Let's be real. Let's keep it a whole book. Let's keep it a whole book. You're like, don't loop me into that group. Emily with an E, so it's E-M-E-L-Y. That's how you spell it. Yeah, yeah. Was Sophia with an F a little bit of inspo? Was, you know what? Like, I didn't.
- For the purposes of the podcast, it absolutely was. It was just, she's everything to me. When I was a little girl, I was like, I wanna be Sophia with an F. - That's what I figured. That's what I figured as much. - It was exactly like that. - It was fully Sophia with an F inspo. So, but really you just like,
Because it's spelled with an E. I've never seen that spelling. So legally, my name was E-M-E-L-Y, and then they had to change it. So I've had different variations of Emily, but my whole family uses E-M-E-L-Y. I didn't realize when I did the tag, I'm at Emily with an E, they were going to think my last name was Withani.
So even when I tell people, oh, it's Emily with an E, they'll be like, well, what is it doesn't. How else do you spell Emily? Okay. I literally I was talking about you to the girl who's doing my makeup. I was like, I'm going to record with Emily with an E. And she's like, well, how else do you fucking spell Emily? And I said, E-M-E-L-Y. Yeah. Usually it's.
I didn't think it was going to be as confusing as it actually is. And they're like, so does it start with an F? Is it like a silent E? And I'm like, girl, it's an E in the middle. This is actually a fun fact. My middle name is Vanina, which is a very Spanish name. Okay. And it's spelled V-A-N-I-N-A. And I'm like, A?
Sophia rhymes with Vanina. Right. And then my last name was Franco and then my mom got married. So my name was Sophia Vanina Franco Franklin. And I was like, no, this is not fucking happening. She had like the double situation going on. That's so funny. It was crazy shit. And then I was like, Vanina, no one in my class...
Everyone is calling me vagina. It's one letter away from how you spell vagina. So I added an extra N. Okay, so that makes sense. Because when you were spelling it, I was like trying to, because I'm a visual person, I was trying to put it in my head. The only thing that was coming, I was like, it's vagina. And I was like, I'm not going to be disrespectful. It's a podcast. But I'm glad you said it. Because I was like, okay, it makes sense. Adding the addition was a good addition.
It was a good addition because I was like, this is fucking crazy shit. Like my mom's trying to just like fuck me over like from the womb. Like this is messed up. But I am so excited to have you here. Let's jump into Mean Girls. Okay. So you filmed the new rendition of Mean Girls and you started off as
as like an influencer posting videos. Yeah. How did you like transition into movies and film? Doing the content that that whole idea of things was okay fine I like to do this it's fun because I've been
an avid internet person for years now. Like started when YouTube was just blowing up and that subscriber box is on the right. Like that's what I was like, I'm going to try to do this. Like Fred was blowing up, whatever. Okay, wait, I actually want to talk about that. So how old were you when you started posting? Oh, I was like nine. Oh. And it was...
- Did your parents know? - They did know, a hundred times, because they gave me like a test run, like, "All right, what are you trying to do?" And at that point I was really into like stop motion animation. So I made like clay people, so weird. - Artsy bitch. - Yeah, it was so weird of just like that, thank God nobody could find those videos. But then I was like, "Oh, so I love to sing and dance. So I'm gonna do that on there as well."
and at that point I was in dance, so I was posting stuff like that, and they were like super encouraging, and I was like, yeah, do it, go for it. Obviously it wasn't a production like this. It was on a Dell computer with a webcam, so that shit looked like it was still not a potato. Like after your parents went to bed. Literally. So I was like, my video, I think the highest video I ever got was like 5K, and I was like, I am the girl, I am the moment, and nobody can fuck with me. Yeah, like I was like, this is, I made it at 10 years old.
So I tried to do that, but obviously like that didn't blow up. And then when TikTok happened, I didn't want to get on there because I was like, everybody's just like renegading up the ass in there. Like, I don't want to. I felt like I was just like, am I too old for this? I thought it was like only 12 year olds. Baby girl, if you're too old, then I need to get off TikTok immediately. No, but TikTok at first, it was musically. So it was like the do, do, do, do. And I was like, I'm not trying to do all that. Like I had my little cringy phase on the internet, not trying to like get back to it.
But yeah, I did that and then created the videos. And I think my first video went like super, didn't even go that viral. It was like 50K. And at that point for me, I was like, yeah. I mean, that's like a big chunk of people. For the first video, it's like absolutely insane. So then I did the story time and it just grew bigger and bigger and bigger. And it changed the trajectory for like the next four years of my life. Wow. And it blew up crazy. And then I was like, you know what?
I'm trained in dance. I can do all these other things that I'm trained to do. This was just more so like sharing my personality and they're eating it up. I was like, so, okay, keep it going, keep it going. So for the two years that I first started, I was posting videos.
A story time every single day. Like every single day. Yeah. I was so much of my life is on the internet. Okay. But it's like too much. But how would you do that? Because I get shit on every single day by my team. Like you don't post. What the fuck are you doing? Yeah. It's just, it doesn't.
come naturally to me, but I want it to. - It was, I think too, just because I loved the internet so much, I had so much to say and I was so excited that now people were finally listening. And I've journaled every day of my life since I was like eight to nine. - Oh, okay. - So they're like, "She's lying about all these stories. If I don't have a story, I just go back into my journal."
I love that. Yeah. I don't know why I did it, but I ended up working out. But yeah. You were a mental health queen since the womb. Honestly, I was just so self-involved to myself that I was like, I'm just going to write a book about my life and this is going to be my book. And it's like, okay, I guess. Yeah, sure. I also love that you're like, people are like, okay, that's not true. And you're like, I'm going to do a dramatic reading of my diary entry from three years ago. It's
- Absolutely, looking back at the stuff that when I wrote when I was 11, even the handwriting of it, and I'm like, this is so janky, girl. Like, what were you thinking? I for real thought I was writing a full on novel, not knowing that in the end it would ultimately help, 'cause that's where for the two years I was able to get those stories. Also, I was telling stories in live time. So if something were to happen to me and I'm angry,
off clip. Right then and there. So like, if you're like in a fight, you're like, hold on, I need to like, hold on, I'm going to record this one second because now I'm building something and people have, they want to listen to me. So yeah, no, it was either that, like I'd get into a fight with whether it was my boyfriend or my friend or, which is not healthy in any way, shape or form to then automatically go to the internet and be like, guess what?
the whole cabbage in me but also not healthy but but also a bag okay where you like that's what i'm saying like be so for real so i was like although i don't do it i don't do that exactly like that anymore i'm still like just do it again i would do it again i would do it again so quick like i'm sorry my friends are like so you can't tell the internet this i'm like but why i i i
love that and respect that so much in a person because that means you have to be confident as shit you're like i don't care how people are gonna like take this in or how they're gonna feel about it like do you have that level of confidence where when you put something out you're like i don't give a fuck how people feel about it because i think too with making content so young
that I got shit on so bad, so bad from people, even when people found my videos in school and they would make fun of it or random people on the internet from Minnesota being like this little fat 10 year old. So at a point I was like, I can't allow you to dictate how I feel about myself. That's just not, then I'm giving you permission or access to me that you don't deserve. So-
If I want to post this and if you think it's crazy, that's fine. I'm crazy. That's badass. It is what it is. That's such a badass mentality to have. That's what I'm going to do with my kids. Yeah. Like when I have kids, I'm just going to make them put all their shit online and they're going to have such...
And I'm going to create fake accounts and write evil shit on their posts. It really helps. And they're going to have the thickest skin ever and they're going to fucking dominate. 110%. You know what I mean? I think if it wasn't for those random people in Minnesota, Texas, being like, you're so fat and disgusting. I don't know who I would be today. Shout out. Shout out to all of those people. Shout out Minnesota and all the fucking haters. Oh, you haters. You genuinely did it. No, it was...
Honestly, at a point I was like, I can't keep trying to find validation for you guys. You're never going to be happy. Yeah. So I can only find validation within myself. I think that's incredible. And you're only 24. So like if you have like, you're going to be fucking bulletproof by the time you're 30. Yeah.
Oh, you're not gonna give a shit what anyone says, any comment. - Especially within this industry, I find like words, obviously words hold weight, but at a point I'm so desensitized by like the stuff that's happened and I'm just like, I don't care. I really don't care. I'm here to do this the way that I know how to do it. And obviously it's worked out in my favor. - Yeah, it has worked out.
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Your cash back really adds up. That should be a lesson to anyone wanting to start like a platform because now that's like an actual job is being a content creator. And people always write in like,
Do you have advice like for starting out? My advice is always post a ton of content. Do you think that had to do with some of your success is like the consistent, constant posting? Yeah. I also think just,
to your point of posting any and everything. Like I didn't know what was going to click. I didn't come into the situation being like, I'm gonna be a storytime teller and that's what I'm gonna be known for. Like that wasn't how it worked out. It just so happened that I do like sharing stories. Even just casually amongst like my friends and stuff. I'm always talking like, oh, this happened to me the other day, whatever. But yeah.
having to figure out how to navigate and find letting your niche kind of find you. Yeah. You can't do that without you just posting anything and everything. Right. So it's, it's trial and error really. That's really good advice is like posting shit that's true to you and then that niche and like those people will find you and your content.
100%. And those are the people that will ride for you. Because then they expect something from you. Like, we want to hear more about it. And they can kind of navigate your way into building an audience. You very much just have to listen to them. And I know in the beginning of it, they were like, we love this. This was really funny. This part was really funny. I was like, okay. They like the stories, yes, because the stories are crazy. But more so, they like the way I'm telling the stories and the personality that comes through with it. So that is what needs to be at the forefront. But I wouldn't have known that if I didn't have an...
that navigating way of even small amount of people. I'm not saying now that it's like over 5 million people, great, awesome. But at a point there was only 10,000 people. And even listening to them and being like, we love this is what was able to get me to there. Right. That's like a tricky thing, I feel like, because you have to be able to look at
comments and likes and you have to look at that information from a not it's bias isn't the word but like from a standpoint where you can kind of filter through okay who's just being a hater right and who should i actually listen to their feedback and you can only
to the feedback from people you know that are actual fans and like you. - Yeah. - 'Cause I think there was like a moment in time where I would hang on to all the rude shit, right? - It's hard not to though. - It is, it is. - Imagine getting hundreds and hundreds of people telling you that like you- - Oh, I don't have to imagine, baby girl. I was in. - Right, that's what I mean. You got personal experience of it. Like I remember that whole era of like,
Oh my God. I live that shit. And I'm sure even now people will still like have their own opinions about you. Totally. It's just, it's so daunting to see like so many random people have an opinion about something that happened to you in your personal life, even though they may not know the full entire story of it, which is the craziest part. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing is you start, it's like,
a significant amount of people you start to believe it about yourself and you have to sit there and think these people have no idea who i am they have no idea like what actually happened what was said right so why the do we care but but it's hard to just like ignore it
- To me, it's almost funny of just like, oh, you really thought you ate. Like that's so crazy that it's like you genuinely thought you ate there. And it's like, okay, because again, with every single hate comment, there'll be so much love on the opposite end of it that I'm like, again, I can't, you think I'm a shit ass person? You've never met me a day in my life and you've never seen me be the shit ass person that you're claiming that I can be. So if you may think that that's your perception, your perception is your reality, it's not mine. - It's your reality and it's also false,
- Right. - Your reality isn't real. - And it's like false, but your reality isn't real and that's totally fine. I have no idea who you are. Clearly, you know, as long as they're leaving a comment, I'm like,
That's called engagement. And that is why I'm getting a bag because you're engaging in my content. Exactly. If my content makes you react in any way, shape or form, that's exactly what it was meant to do. And I'm so glad that you could be part of this journey. Like point blank period. Go ahead. Call me. Say my eyebrows are twisted. That's fine. Don't listen to it. Oh my God. They eat me up on my eyebrows all the time. I'm like, girl, my face is lopsided. I'm like, I have,
acknowledge this about myself. So it's fine. It's okay. Like even the DMs, people send me Bibles about how much they hate me. That's crazy. That's crazy when people do that. Cause I'm like, oh, you're invested. Yeah. I'm like, oh my God, you love me. I'm like, I literally like, you love me so much. This is absolutely like Bibles just wishing me death of like, as if I did something personal to them. And I'm like, I love that.
- It's like "Dolulu" like, and you have to have that where you read it and you're like, so they're kind of into it because they did take time out to read it. - And they look into my deep life and I'm like, oh my God, I'm honored and blessed. - Obsessed. - I'm like, thank you so much. You have spent so much time on me and I appreciate it always, whatever that looks like. - Do you respond to people? - Oh no. - No. - I don't, unless it's like something that I can turn it to be funny. Like I think I did something recently where like some guy,
It's like, oh, she's not even that fine to be talking like that. And then I look at their page and it's like the follow back is crazy. Like you're following me. And then I look into my DMs and they're like, you're so fine. Like, let me take you out on a date. And I'm like, but that's crazy. That's crazy. You're crazy. The DMs where it's like.
20 DMs saying you're so hot, you're so gorgeous, sit on my face. Literally. And then the last five, the recent ones are like, die, bitch. Yeah. That's a crazy, like to see it fucking just go from zero to 100 like that. 100%. Those people kind of scare me. No, there are psychos that I'm like, okay, I don't know what, that's why I'm like, and a lot of times people leave hate comments just because they want the attention. Yeah. So it's like, I'm not even going to feed into it unless I can make this funnier than what it already is. And repurpose.
Yeah, exactly.
You posted your boyfriend publicly. And that was recently that you did that? Because you kind of kept him private. Yeah, he wasn't allowed on the socials. Okay, so I will never allow a boyfriend on the socials, but I also dealt with a very public thing, so I'm scared of it. Yeah, makes sense. What made you decide to do that? Do you regret it? Are you happy about it? I don't regret it because I think I got to a point where I was like, okay, in the beginning...
I didn't really want to share. I know that I decided to do this, so I'm not going to add anybody else into this. And I also didn't want other people to have an opinion about relationships that they don't know. But it got to a point where I was just like, all these stories I have, but it's even funnier to have the person that actually experienced it with me to be like, yeah, she was there and she was bugging the hell out. And I don't regret it because it's like, well, I mean,
People see us together all the time if we're out casually or whatever. But it's just kind of like, yeah, that's my mans. And he's been my mans for the past eight years. And there's a reason. Eight years is crazy. Yeah, we met in high school. So it's been a minute. But again, because of that, there's so many stories now that he can also validate. Because I get a big thing. It's like, she's lying about it. Like, no way. And I'm like, okay, well, now you can come and tell your side of it. You're like, babe, tell him. Tell him I'm crazy. Tell him I'm crazy.
crazy. Tell them what I did to you. But yeah, no, I don't I definitely don't regret it. But it's not like I'm going to be like a relationship channel. Cuz that's not my that's not my gay. That's not your vibe. And I know that because the tick tock that you posted I was screaming is when you talk about how you were at the club with your boyfriend and he was like talking to a girl or a girl went up to him or something and you kicked him in the chest. Yeah, which Listen, listen, I have done some shit in relationships I regret I
This was actually not – this was, like, a couple years ago. I had an Amazon box. The guy was dating at the time. We were broken up and got back together. Mm-hmm. And this girl texted him. Mm-hmm.
And I was like, oh, pull it up. Because I was like laying right next to him. And there was no prior text messages. But it was so clearly like, it wasn't a hello. It was like a part of a conversation. So I'm like, okay, so you deleted the conversation that you guys were having. So I grabbed an Amazon box and I chucked it as hard as I could at his head. He dodged it, which is like very annoying. But like sometimes like you just have to do shit like that. Sometimes it's just...
Love will make you do crazy things. Like this one, everybody was like, oh my God, you hurt him. I said, this 200 pants of man. Leave him alone. He's totally fine. He's fine. He's living. He's breathing. He survived. It's like a little scratch. They're fine. And also, that period of my life was when I was actively like,
something would happen, story would be up the next day. So the way that I, like, I was still in that like moment of anger and everything, but like, yeah, I kicked him in his chest. And honestly, we laugh about it. Like, it was funny. He says to himself, he's like, out of everything, when you first did it, I looked up
and i wasn't angry i wasn't confused he was turned on i was like i was impressed i didn't think that you could i was like yeah girl i was a dancer if there's one thing i know how to do it's how to point my foot and get it to where it needs to go and it was your chest and i was like and i that was in the middle of a pack club like and i'll do it i didn't get kicked out but was a girl hitting on him or like he was talking about so okay me calling her like not knowing anything
So, okay, at that point, we, like, kind of were on, like, a break or whatever. And it was... I also missed this part of the story. It was his birthday party celebration thing. No excuse. Right. And he was like, it was my birthday. I said, I don't care. It could have been Christmas. I still would have done it. Like, it could have been... I don't care. And...
Yeah, I just love me to do some crazy things. I never thought, I mean, actually, let me not cap here. I knew that that was well within me to do something like that. And yeah, I just saw him dancing with like somebody else. And I was like, I don't like it.
I don't like it. And this is how my body naturally, there wasn't any like a moment that I didn't think. You were like, maybe I shouldn't do that. Honestly, there wasn't, it was just like, oh, this is going to happen. Okay, this is how I feel. Boom, it happened. That's the thing. There was alcohol involved, I'm assuming. Oh yeah, I was drinking Hennessy Red Bull. Okay. Hennessy Red Bull. Yeah, I was on a thousand. I don't know what I was on. Like I was wearing a cat suit. Like I was, um,
I was living my best life, honestly. The fact that, because I used to do anything Red Bull. Vodka Red Bull, like whiskey Red Bull. Like I didn't give a shit. It was always a Red Bull though. That's like a crazy mix. I would not do that now.
I still do it. Yeah, I still do it. I'm not going to lie. But it's not my go to drink anymore. Because when they tell you Red Bull gives you wings, it gives you wings and people get kicked in the chest. Like, I'm not like it really I was flying through that club. Like it was not okay. But I definitely like Red Bull to me. I'm such a I love Red Bull. I love Red Bull. Okay, with everything in but I'm just like, I can't.
I have too much energy naturally that it's just like I'm bouncing off the walls. - I think it's a little bit of a recipe for disaster. It kind of reminds me of like when I used to take Adderall and I wouldn't eat and then I would drink. So it's like, I wouldn't remember, but I would be awake 'cause I took an Adderall and I would just act like a sociopath. Like I need that.
numbing yeah kind of put me to sleep thing that alcohol will do now yeah so that i don't act crazy you know oh no also drinking in moderation that's like another thing like i'll try to learn how to do that in 2024 for sure i thought you were gonna be like because you know i've learned how to drink a moderate i am not that if i'm out i'm like i'm out and i'm out on the streets i'm here to have fun i'm here to have a good time like i mean not to get messy but sometimes i mean it happens i can't say that i haven't had my nights where i'm like oh maybe we shouldn't have ordered another one yeah yeah yeah
Now that I'm older, I have it under control. But that was like very, that was like a recent thing for sure. But now I can do it like a responsible adult.
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I feel like COVID just kind of like messed it all up. There was nothing to do in COVID. I turned 21 in COVID. Oh.
So I was like, there's nothing to do but sit in my friend's backyard, socially distanced and, you know, just drink. And that's it. COVID, I would just drink alone because that's what you would do. There was nothing else to do. COVID was definitely a dark time. I think I was like under the influence of something for 85% of COVID. I think we honestly, me too. I think we all were at that point. Like how else were you going to get through it? Right. That makes me feel a lot better. So COVID.
Mean Girls. Okay. You got the part from dancing. Mm-hmm. How did that... Like, how did you decide to try out? Or, like, how did that role happen? So, I posted...
When I came back from L.A., I posted Lady Gaga bad romance dance video. And it's because just naturally being in dance for so many years, the reason I got into dance was because of people like celebrity, like Lady Gaga, Beyonce, like all these like giants. And I would just copy their music videos. So I knew it like the back of my hand. Like I was one of those kids because I wasn't allowed to go outside. So I was just very much in my house. No wonder you fucking post on the Internet.
yeah i was i was a little girl that was like my parents like you're not going to the park with your friends that's not happening with you but you can watch music videos and go on the internet that's about it which is probably worse but is that a spanish mom thing yeah because my mom was strict as fuck too and like i couldn't do anything my friends were doing in high school absolutely not i was not allowed to do that that thing but again it ended up working out but because i learned all these different
music videos, like beautiful lyre, like know it like, like I know it by heart. Like, so I just, I don't know. One day I was like, you know what? I'm going to do it for TikTok. I think it's funny. I also don't, I also love to dance so much, but I knew that at a point my audience wanted the story times, they wanted the story times, but I was like, you know what girls, I'm going to show you what else we got in the vault. And this is one of those things. And I just put it up there, put my big boots on and did the Bad Romance dance video. And it went
Super viral. I saw it has like 19 million likes or views or something crazy. Like 19 million views. And it's not even like the one that went super crazy, but for it to be dance and something that I'm not telling the story was like absolutely crazy. So that went nuts. And Lady Gaga commented on it and it went crazy. And then Kyle Hanagami commented underneath it.
which that one to me like blew my mind just because growing up in dance like you have these huge like icons within the dance industry. That was like your idol. Yeah and like him out of like a whole bunch of other people like Galen Hooks like all of these people that you know I've always I like I took his class when I was years ago years ago years ago so when I finally saw him comment on on it I was like oh my god this is crazy I looked at his thing and he followed me and I was like
"Oh my God, this is a full circle moment." And he was like, "This is fire, this is amazing." And I was like, "This is crazy to get recognized for something outside of just the stories and my personality." Something that I was actually trained to do by people that I've paid money to pay, take class from. So it's crazy.
A couple months after that, he reached out to me over DMs on TikTok and was like, hey, I'm working on this project. I'm considering you for it. Let me know if you're available. You'll have to shoot it off like remotely, obviously like at home. But let me know. And I was like, absolutely. You're like, I'm outside your house right now. And I was like, where do you want me? I was like, I'll take the car now. Uber helicopter there. I'll do whatever I need to do. It's totally fine. So that was a huge like.
full circle moment for me to be like, I, you were somebody that I was hoping you would just pick me out in class. And now you're even considering me and know who I am, which is crazy moment. Yeah. And got that opportunity. And we went through it. That took so long to do, but to film, just to film it. Cause they wanted it to be, I mean, I can't like say too much about it, but, um, I had to film it remotely. Okay. And, um,
It was super fun because obviously I love the Mean Girls like original movie. But to be even considered and I don't know, I haven't seen it yet. So I really I come talking about it right now. I'll be in it for like a second and a half. You're like I killed it. Like I killed it and I ate down. Like it's fine. Tina Fey's my girl. But yeah, I don't know how much I'm in it. And even if I'm in it for like one second, the whole opportunity of it, of Kyle reaching out to me, of even being considered to be in it is amazing. And it is.
blew my mind and it's something that like it doesn't go lost on me that I'm like this is crazy by making just a video that I've been doing for 10 years it changed the trajectory of my life and just one video the fact that Lady Gaga commented I did an interview a couple weeks ago and they asked me like who my top three dream guests would be and Lady Gaga was one of them because
I mean, she's the icon. The icon. That's mother monster. Do you know the choreography to Telephone? Yeah. Absolutely. That was Beyonce and... Can you teach me after? I can 100% teach you after. That song... Every single one. Oh my God. Just the whole artistry behind Beyonce and Lady Gaga in one music video. I was...
That's like embedded in my head for the rest of my life. I think that is my favorite music video of all time. Oh, yeah. It's so fucking good. So you were posting both like dance videos and then videos where you would literally just take to the Internet and like talk about just tell a story or how you were feeling. What was like the worst? Because I've worked so many different fucking jobs, too. What was like the worst job you had?
I'm trying to think of the worst one I have. The worst job I have. Honestly, anything that had to do with me waking up early killed me. But I would probably. Just working in the service industry is like, I was a waitress. I was a lead hostess. I was a waitress. I worked at a grocery store and was like the cashier. I think that was the worst. I was going to say that one seems pretty boring. That one was really fucking boring. I think.
Probably the most boring one definitely was a daycare. I worked as... I took charge of like 12 two-year-olds at 16 years old. Yeah, I can potty train a two-year-old in two weeks. Like, easy, easy. But like...
like that was probably the most important in a playpen and be like no i had to literally actively like play with them teach them like like i was miss emily like teach them about themselves because they spent like 12 hours at the daycare right and i would go after school um right before dance and just be potty training them like in and out being like all right time to go let's go like lucia you know you have to do this right now girl like you know this is your time to shine like you're gonna do it and we can listen to frozen right after okay
Two years old is crazy. I crazy. My very first job was at this place called Sweet and Sassy in Utah, where I would do like middle girls, like young girls would throw birthday parties there. And I would like do their makeup and hair. And I had no idea how to do it. That was actually like kind of fun. But like little girls can be really mean. Oh, yeah. At least two year olds. They can't really talk. Yeah, exactly. They can't. They'll hit you, though.
- They'll hit you. - Did you hit him back? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh my God. I would get like the police would be at this door. - I would completely fuck you with the knife. - No, imagine, I'd be like, absolutely. I punched him straight in their face. You're not gonna disrespect me. I don't care what age you are. - They had to learn. - No, they'll fight between each other though. And I have to, breaking up a two year old fight is probably the funniest thing ever. - That I can only imagine. - It was nuts. It was nuts. - So you are Spanish.
I have a question for you. This is completely off topic. It's just like something I've been noticing and I was talking about it last night, literally. I feel like there's this thing happening and maybe it's always been there. Dudes are super into like dating a Hispanic girl.
- You know what's, that's so funny you bring that up. - And like fetishizing, right? - I'm not, ooh, you're getting me hot right now because I literally the other day was two weeks ago, hanging out with my friends and it was like these new people that were there and the comment that I got the most, and I was with my best friend, Nicole, and we're both Latina,
and they're like oh dude like because she's latina she's so fiery like she's spicy like that's why she's saying that like oh no dude yo i've messed with so many latina chicks she just like that like yeah she has a temper yeah she's so like she's fiery she's spicy like
I am not, girl, I am not a Spice. Like I'm, first of all, because I guess I'm outspoken, that doesn't go with each other because it just doesn't make sense to me. It's so, whenever I tell people I'm Latina and they're like, oh, where are you from? And then I tell them I'm Colombian, then it's like,
this idea starts building in their head. And they're like, "Oh my God, one, I'm probably a coke whore. Two, I'm a prostitute." I'm like, "No, that's fine." But I always get the like, "Oh, so fiery because you're Latina." - Right, spicy, fiery,
like badass usually it's like that's yeah i didn't fall into that category i'm not fortunately the third one i'm not gonna lie to you um we ain't got much working back here but you know we'll fall into the other categories but we're gonna go to bbl and we're gonna be a hundred percent once i hit up dr miami then maybe i'll be in that category i've just been noticing and like dudes that even i'm like really good friends with who are in the industry have been
saying like they will make it a point to point out that the girl they're dating was Spanish. Yeah. Like, you know, like as it's like a it's kind of like a trophy. Exactly. And it's weird because it doesn't necessarily matter. I mean, it's just weird being on the receiving end of it. I was just like, oh, yeah, my girlfriend was Latina.
and it's like am i supposed to give you like a nobel peace prize right i don't know i'm like i don't i don't know i don't know what type of applause you want from this but like i guess and i hate when people are like oh my god if once you date a latina like you have to learn how to like keep up with her like you know manage her because they could be so crazy and it's like what is this like narrative and i don't know where it came from i think it came from sophia vergara and modern family probably probably i am
- Honestly, I've been watching Modern Family with my boyfriend the whole thing. - Right. - And I'm like, they have, she was so typecasted into this like Colombian, like very... - Which it was a great role. - Yeah, she did, she killed it. - And that shows amazing. But like, it was very, like the typecast, very stereotypical. Like that's how I think when dudes are like, yeah, like I'm dating this girl. She is from Argentina or like she's Colombian or she's like from Brazil.
I think that in their brains, they are thinking like the Sofia Vergara thing. I think that's also just the way the show was set up. They kind of, it was like a take on society because that's how people view when you hear Latina. That's the first thing that pops up into your head. It's crazy because it's like they come, not everybody is like fiery, like screaming, kicking boyfriends in the chest. Like there's some people that are just a little bit more timid. And also Latino, but...
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Do you refer to yourself as Latina or Spanish? And do you give a fuck? Because I like when I first started to be an F, I would use those things interchangeably. My mom was born and raised in Argentina. My dad born and raised and still lives in Spain. Okay. I'm first generation and I would like use those interchangeably and people would be like,
It's Latinx and would freak out. I'm not going to refer to myself as Latinx. I don't care if that's a politically correct thing to do. I'm just not doing it. I just, I think when I'm back home, well, when I go back to Colombia, I use it to that standard because my first language is Spanish. So how they speak is how I speak. Yeah. So when I say, oh, yo soy Hispana, that's like I'm Hispanic, I'm Latino, I'm Spanish. Like to me, it's all the same. Yeah. But I know that people have their own like,
they'll stand on their territory on it, which is fine. But I prefer to refer. Can't even speak. I told you, girl, the grammar's not there. Spanish is the first language. No, I'm thinking. I literally, anytime my mom says anything, I throw out the Spanish, which Spanish was my first language and now I've completely lost it.
Which is my mom's fault. You don't speak it at all. I understand everything, but my mom would speak to me in Spanish. I would respond in English. So it's her fault. Yeah, you have to blame her. Blame her. I mean, I think she knows. She knows what she does. She knows what she does.
uh yeah no i i'm not like once if you hear me speak spanish you can very much tell i'm from america but if actually that's weird because when i'm here and i speak spanish they're like oh you're from colombia when i'm in colombia they're like girl you are gringa puro puro like it's all relative like i am born in the usa in colombia like holding on to the flag just anytime i say something that's how they view me they seem like a bald eagle over there
Utah is growing up in Utah, the whitest, whitest people on the planet. Like that state is extremely white and I'm white too, which this is a whole different conversation, but like,
in high school, I was like one of maybe five Latina or Latino people in my entire school. So it was like there, I'm the most Spanish person they've ever seen. - Did they call you a chonga? 'Cause that's what they called me. That's known as like the chonga girls, me and my friends. I was like, that's not correct, but okay. - No, no one ever called me that to my face. - Oh, okay. - Maybe behind my back. - Maybe. - Maybe. - 'Cause that's, I can only imagine, 'cause I think
where I grew up was at that point a lot of white but there was like Hispanics there but it wasn't as much as it is now so I can't imagine being like one of five
people in your entire school. I was one of five and then when I moved to New York, I'm seen as like the whitest bitch ever. Yeah. You know, so it's like, it is kind of relative to where you are, but it's funny how people like type, it's funny how we are supposed to use Latinx
to describe it because that like does not roll off the tongue. It doesn't come up again when I speak to like my grandma or anything and I refer to myself or my friends, I can't use that. I can't use that verbiage with her just because she's going to be like, I don't know what that is. And I'm like, all right, well, I mean, again, it's a different way of living over here than it is over there, which I think it's like,
That's why I always think of when people are like, "What should you say?" I'm like, "Well, I'm gonna say what my native tongue requires." And if I'm in Colombia and I say that, they're gonna look at me like I have five heads. Five heads with a bald eagle. I don't... - I feel that. Do you go to Colombia a lot? - Yeah, I go like twice a year. - Oh, amazing. And how long do you stay for?
Um, usually like a week, two weeks. It depends on what I'm doing. I think one of the times I went, I stayed for like three weeks because I did a road trip through all of Columbia. Yeah. So we did that. And then I went for Mother's Day to go visit my grandma with my mom and visiting like different parts because where I'm from is very much mountains. So there's not too much of a city there. So when I went... Do you get bored?
- Oh my God, yeah. Holy crap, dude. It's like, it's such a culture shock to be out there and like you get to realize like we're complaining about all this other stuff over here and there's a cow in the middle of the street right now. And I'm like, all right, I drank goat milk. I milked, what was that thing called? - The udder. - The udder. I whatever, I'll go. - You milked it. - I milked the goat.
drank goat milk and I was first of all I'm lactose so I don't know if that was allowed like but that hurt my stomach so bad it tastes good or did it no it tasted crazy it tasted warm I was like also just the pace of life is so much slower or maybe everything is like that compared to New York but like even when I go home to Utah which I'm not gonna fucking compare Utah to South America and the pace of life there but
Even going home to Utah, I'll order a sandwich and it will be like two and a half minutes have gone by and I'll be like, this is taking so long. It's not. No, it's ridiculous. And I don't know, maybe it is just New York, but I'll be sitting there and I'm like, all right, guys, it's been 45 minutes. No.
It's been 45 minutes. We're on to the next. This is too much. Life is a little bit slower. I'm like, but then that's how life passes you. And I'm like, we need to get as much going on now because we don't know what's going to happen. It's also frantic energy in New York.
It is, but I think that's where I thrive. Me too. I feel like that's, I've tried LA, I've tried different, I mean, and Florida is like, that's a twilight zone, so that's completely different. But like, there's something about just New York where it's like, just go, go, go, go, go. And then once you get that moment of relief is when you did it all. And that's it. And people say like,
Don't you get anxious living in New York because it is so fast paced and so crazy? And I thrive in that kind of environment too because if it's too calm and too relaxed, then I have way too much time on my hands to start thinking. And when I start thinking, only bad things happen.
No, 100. It's like because there's so much happening around you, it's so much easier to shut your brain off and just do the things that you know that will benefit you the most. Yes. If I have time to just sit down and be with my thoughts, I'm going to go crazy. I can't. No. It's a dark room up there. Like, I'm just like, I don't want to sit in there. Like, I'll say hello every once in a while, but like, let's keep it moving. Because then I feel I just don't feel productive. I don't feel like I'm doing anything.
I won't feel productive. But I also love how every single therapist in the whole world is like you need to learn to love yourself and be able to just sit with yourself. And I'm like, I don't think that's for me. Yeah, I think I don't want to. So great for some people. But for me, I'm not I just know. No, no, I journal I'll journal it. It's fine. Move on. That's it. That's my moment for me. But that's still journal. Yeah, I still Yeah. Okay. Do you think it's like helped you with your mental health? I don't
I don't think it has anything to do with it, honestly. - I love that. - I know that people are like, it's so, and it might work for some people, but for me personally, I do it purely for el chisme, like for the gossip. So I can look back on it and just like, whenever it's a slow day, be like, I am so crazy. Like that's literally it. I just look back on my life 'cause I forget so much.
that it's more so for a memory thing of just remembering of like i completely forgot when i knew that person or if somebody were to be like oh you did i know i never said that i wrote it in my journal do you have like journal entries where you will keep score like this bitch said this this and this to me and i don't want to forget and i want to be able to like refer back to this if i need to i have receipts i have old notes i have notes from high school if people ever were to be like that never happened here's a
I'm not. You could sell that journal for a lot of money. Oh, for so much money. I have multiple. There's like four or five of them because you just go through them. And I'm like, this? These are my receipts. That's why I'm like, I don't know, maybe I'm doing journaling like incorrectly and I'm using it for like harm as opposed to like for hate. But like, no, I don't know. I write down everything, like goal list, all of it, like everything.
everything is in there you can literally look through my life and just get that journal I get really scared that someone's gonna find it find it oh my god do you hide it I do hide it um just because I'm like I there's some journal entries I'm like girl what what did you think you were doing here um but yeah I hide it and also I I
Where I have it, it's like in a safe. And I'm like, you can't... I was about to say... And my password is... Now imagine. But...
But also people can hack your phone. So like maybe me writing shit in my notes app is actually the scary thing to do. Yeah, because sometimes when I don't have my journal around me, I'll write notes of specific moments. So I have notes that go years. And I get scared that someone's going to hack my shit. Or if I lose my phone and someone goes through it and they're like, oh, on December 10th at 4.37 p.m., she said. And like, because that's how I journal everything. Because again, I want to remember everything.
specific times of my life because i feel like it's important the time too your time the day everything that's kind of genius though yeah you're gonna be able to like look back on it with your kids they're gonna be like why why were you in a journal at 3 30 a.m and why were you like and i'm drunk and i'm like guys today was lit like we're gonna we're gonna skip this pages we just go through um this is gonna be a hard pivot but this is something i've been wanting to talk about
Guys that get plastic surgery. I'm not going to name names. I'm not going to do it. The one came up automatically and I was like, was it the one we were talking about before we recorded? Okay. What are your thoughts? What are your feelings? I hate it, but I want you to take it away.
It doesn't unless I get a nose job. I like I get a nose job. Maybe like if you're not happy with your nose, that's fine. But like once you're doing surgeries on like getting abs. The abs? The fact that people. That's scary. Yeah. I just I don't know. Maybe it's like not fair of me. I just.
I want my dude to not even know what's hot and what's not. Yeah. That's sexy to me. You know what I mean? Yeah, but he's just, like, so not into it. And he just doesn't know. He gets, like, a forest king where it's like, I don't know. I'm just living life. That's honestly what I like. I just...
think for like a dude to do that. It just, it rubs me the wrong way. And maybe I need to like get with the times in 2023, but I'm just not a fan. - I mean, again, I get like, if you wanna get a nose job, that's fine. - Yeah, everybody, you do you. - You do you, get your nose job. - I feel like I fucking hate it, but like do your thing. - But if, again, if you're getting like abs placed in, I'm gonna be like, I think there's a deeper problem we have to talk about here. - Yeah, yeah. - But again, or maybe if you wanna get a BBL, get a BBL, go ahead. Like make that juice move, I don't know.
So the BBL...
I think I've told this story. My mom almost died in the middle of getting a BBL. So I'm like pretty against those because they're like dangerous as shit. They're one of the most dangerous like surgeries. I'm also like a little scared of getting plastic because I think we had a similar experience. Somebody in our family passed away from getting plastic surgery. So for me, I'm always just like so scared of it. If you want to do it, that's completely up to you. Just understand the risk. Yeah, I totally support it.
if you are not a guy that i'm dating that okay and you know what that's and that's up to you but i always just support a little scoot scoot because i'm at one point another we're all gonna get we're gonna get there we're gonna get to scoot scoot poopoo and that's fine by the way if you can't see her she is making a treasure to my forehead and to my cheekbones because we get there at one point time comes it comes botox and filler i'm a hundred percent on board with and that will happen i just
- I don't want my dude, I just don't want my dude doing it. - You don't want him to get a BBL? - I just don't like pretty boys. That's what I don't like. And I don't like if a dude posts a picture, like a selfie,
with a shirt off, like showing off their abs. So do you like, like Instagram? Like, how would you feel like content creator boyfriend? Absolutely fucking not. Okay. Ever. I agree. I agree. Never. Just think it's a little cringy where they're like, yeah. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm scared. No. I'm like, okay.
I'm literally like, okay, I can't get into that. I can't get into that. I can't either, which I don't know. Maybe I need to get with the times, but maybe honestly, or maybe not. I don't know. Different strokes for different folks. Yeah. Actually, I don't think I need to. Thank you. Got it. How about that? Okay. Emily, this was,
I wasn't even planning on talking about that. And then it just hit my brain. I'm like, we need to. You are so funny. Your TikTok is amazing. Emily with an E. Where else can they find you? You can find me on YouTube. I'm Marina on That's Debatable Podcast. You can find me on Instagram at Emily Marino. And...
And maybe in the Mean Girls. I don't know. We don't know yet. We don't know yet. But we do. But we do. But we don't. But we do. But we will. We will. And even if she's not in it, we're going to lie and say like you were. 110%. I'll edit it in there. I know how to use Final Cut Pro. Don't worry about it. And you guys know where to find me. Sophia The Nut, Franklin with a Y. Talk to you next week, sleuths. Bye.
