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It's Sophia Franklin. You are listening to Sophia with an F and the F is for phenomenal. This podcast is rated F. I don't care how much in love I am with you. Keyword, I'm in love. The way to keep love is be out of love so you can see the overall view. Being in something, you're blinded. You can't see it out. I don't think I've ever been in love.
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People in America tend to talk about America and never been outside of America. It's funny. So it let me know one thing. A lot of people just in their head because America is a lot of mental games. Yeah. Mental like the mental the mental here is crazy. Like for me, it's just weird as fuck. It's mental warfare. But it's fun, though.
is fun i'm a german also it is fun by the way walk a flock of flame everybody i brought i made it to sophie yes oh yes and then me by the way this is sophia franklin and it's my shows for you with an f thank you so much for listening if you haven't yet you need to subscribe because i look really hot right now do you like the glasses on or off
you look good both ways. The glasses on make you feel like you're about to beat me up. So take them off. Keep them on. So you behave like I'm a librarian. No, I think that's really interesting. When you say we play a lot of mind games in the U.S., give me like an example. Well, from my experience, what I've seen outside, just this is me actually just looking on the outside, looking in. Like when I went outside of America, I
I'm on one time. I told this story before. It was as a kid. I was complaining because I wanted to shoot a music video. I went to South America and they didn't have my truck. They had some old fucking Kodan truck. I'm about to be a Navy SEAL or something.
And I was mad. And then I'm sitting in the car and we driving down the street and I see the guy like walking down the street singing a song barefoot. Happy as ever. I think it was a scene where I was complaining about what I saw changed everything. And I just pulled and I wanted some weed.
So I pulled, like, this guy got to have weed. The guy that was, like, happy walking over. I want to be, like, some island weed. I ended up talking to him, man. This guy was 16 years old and never had a pair of shoes in his life. In his life. He was just happy as fuck. Yeah. That's, like, so crazy to me how people can be like that. I am stressed 24-7.
Not 24-7, but a lot. And recently I've been talking to myself, which sounds normal. What's your sign? Cancer. Oh, jeez. So I'm like really emotional. Yeah, but— But not, but yeah. Dramatic. The flip side to cancer is when they fuck with you, they fuck with you. So loyal. And when they lock in, they lock in. And y'all are dope writers, too. Oh, okay. Yes, y'all are very expressive. Damn, you are very intuitive. What are you? I'm a Gemini.
Yeah. I'm one of those Geminis that know every personality, though. You know how people are like, yo, Geminis is two-faced. I'm like, wrong. I was literally just going to say that. I was like, wrong, bitch. You got like 100 personalities. You just only know the two. Like, you know what I'm saying? You know the little toddlers. You don't know the elders, the ancestors. It's different, though. But being a Gemini and being in this limelight thing, and even for you, like your story is crazy, right? Yeah. But it ain't.
Your story is actually an eye-opener. The fact that you know my story, I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, of course. I'm a gangster nerd. So you got to know who you're sitting next to and what they got going on. And I actually seen you had a show with another girl. Yeah. And I thought it was that at first. So it was like, no, Waka, that shit is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But that's normal though, right? Because-
Because somebody could attack your situation like, yo, somebody broke us up or fuck this person or fuck that person. Or technically, it was both of y'all introduction. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I think that for people like us, we have to start looking at the most positive end of everything. So I'll give you an example of what I'm saying. If I take this phone right now, you'll call me a thief. You'll call me a thief, right? And this, that, and the third. But...
Technically, I look at me, I look at myself and be like, hold on, what the fuck did they just see in me that was so weak that made them steal my phone out of everybody's phone in this room? And then I tighten up those skills and I take it to the next level. I feel like I have a very similar reaction, but mine's not healthy. Anything you've been through prior to today...
and you just fucking mad to this day, have a grudge. It's kind of a sign of ungratefulness to yourself because it took all that to make you. Yeah. Yeah. I am trying to think. I'm having an internal dialogue. Like, am I 100% over it? But it's not about being over it. It's just about letting something horrible fuel you. I don't think it was horrible because it started without you even knowing it was going to be possible.
So let's just say that. True. So now you found something that you was like, oh shit, I can actually take this from A through nine. Fuck Z. A million percent. So do it. I know. But don't do it. That's why we're here right now because we're fucking doing it. Hello. It's the small big theory, right? I think like a lot of us, we got to don't forget the small steps.
Small people are big, big things. Like the small could always be big and small. The big could never be small. So we got big ass bodies with little toes that keep us going and fingers and little eyes and little ears. Right. You got a car with little tires and little bolts. So the little things always count. I think you should go back to the little things that got you right here.
And not be booking Waka Waka. But you did it, though. That's how you got this show. I'm just reminding you of what you got. No, no, no. I love this. I think I like—I've been in a rut for a few years. Welcome to the entertainment business. That's what it is. I don't like it. I'm going to quit. I'm ready to be a housewife, for real. Are you? Yeah. Truly?
All right, then stop lying. No. Dang, I'm not one of those. I'm just telling you, you're not. You just got into it. No, I know. Just say you got to expand the team. That's it. I need to learn how to be more balanced. Say I'm going to learn. Don't say I need. Oh, my God. I say I need and I should. You're like my therapist. Like, what is this right now? I'm a person reminding you of what you tell yourself. Give the credit to self first. Okay. Do you have a therapist, by the way? Oh, no.
I'm my own therapist. Raising my daughter was therapy. Going through heartaches was therapy. Losing my two little brothers. One is suicide. One got killed by my neighbor. Had to look at this guy all day. That's therapy. Like, going through stuff is therapy for me because I just...
I would hear people like, I grew up in like, well, I'm people that was like Muslim, Christian, Catholic, Jewish, all this stuff, right? And everybody always went to stuff if they lost faith. But to me, I'm the kind of guy that can't lose anything I got. If I got this philosophy that if I lost, it was never mine because I never had it. I just possessed it. It's the difference between having and possessing.
Like your show, for instance. You possessed it. You didn't have that. This is your shit right here. I was looking, reading your Instagram captions. I did a bunch of research. And by the way, I just applaud you for coming this far. And you are an icon. Like, you're a legend. Thank you. Like, I threw on 50K on YouTube. Like, had my assistant. I'm like, there's no way I'm going to show up without us pre-gaming to this song. That's hard. Pre-gaming. Yeah.
You know his song, right? 50 Cent. He knows. Oh, yeah, I know it all. Do you know that one? Hell yeah, she changed my life. It got me to thinking different. So, one of your Instagram captions, you talk about this. You're like,
I'm over the whole superficial shit and how caught up we are in it. But then you have a song, 50K for a show, Birkin Bag, et cetera, right? Do you feel like there was a total shift? Nah. It's more like the things that I rap about is about...
the situations. It's never about... I don't do stuff to get, like, applaud or to win people over. I do it in a reflection of what I see and what I felt that that person gave to me. It's a difference. Like, I just said, Berkley, that shit, that's out. I don't know no designer name. I'm telling you, you could put, like...
Amani Poochie and Foochie and Kadoochie and all of them on the table. I'm telling you. And you could go get a shirt out of Marshalls. If the Marshalls shirt look better, I'm wearing it on the red carpet. That's how it is. But it was fine. Like, I just want to see my girl shine. I'm just from an old era where I'm not going to get as fresh as my girl. Like, it's not happening.
Like, I'm sorry. I'm not about to be taking a thousand pictures like my girl. Like, that's why she hit me. She's our mascot. Like, she's going to make the family look good type shit. Yeah. That was an excellent answer. You have a girlfriend right now? I got girlfriends, but I don't have a girlfriend. Okay. Let's talk about it. Yeah.
Why girlfriends? Because they're girls and they're my friends. I think I need to learn the other side of having a girlfriend and not just being a female as a friend and thinking I just got to watch movies, eat popcorn, rub each other, kiss each other, touch each other, fuck each other, go on a date, meet each other's family. Come on. That shit get kind of like... Monotonous. It's like...
You do the same shit. It's like Groundhog Day after a little bit. True, but I don't think... Actually, and then you start fights. If you're with someone crazy like me, I start... I love fights. Oh, you do? Yeah, I'm sorry. Ooh, we would be fucking insane. But like, I'll go crazy and I will make sure the fight lasts four days. I create like a...
You know like that shit in McDonald's where the kids got like the balls? The ball pit? Yeah. I would like get a room, dig three feet in the room, throw ball pits in there. So anytime, that's how I'm going to do my next relationship. Anytime I want to fight, let's get in the ball pit. Oh, what? And fight it out? Fuck it, let's get in. You would fucking destroy me. People would like pick me up and throw me. Oh, so now you put yourself in that room. Amazing. No, it's the mental. So what I would say is not.
It's the mental mind game. Yeah. When I'm in a relationship, because shit gets boring and I'm like, how do we, we need friction or something. Yo, you know what, though? It's crazy, man. My head style is going to kill me. My little dreads, I love them. But you know what's crazy about like the past relationships and like today's relationships? I think the cell phone got a big factor to play in it. Totally. Like, all right, you leave your house.
Say you leave the house at 8 o'clock. Your man left the house at 7.30. But before he left, he left for 30 minutes. You already texted him twice. Right? By 12 o'clock, y'all text six times. He don't get off work to 8. You don't get off work to 7. So by the time y'all got off work, y'all done had 20 text messages already.
what the fuck are you going to talk about when you go home? So I learned that. It's my first relationship, really, from my ex-wife. I'd never been in a relationship. And I seen me looking back, I'm like, why the fuck am I texting all day? You got a life. That's the problem in relationships. They try to intertwine each other's lives. People that start meeting each other, they think that whatever we started prior, before this, got to stop now because I'm here.
Right. Big dick is here. Like, no, brother. I got a life. Okay, go on. That's how a man got. We become a big dick. I'm joking. I mean, unless you want to tell me. But... It really ain't. That's why I don't want no girlfriend. I'm trying to figure surgery out, but it's not working because my name going to go on the paperwork. And then they're going to know that I'm going to be fucked. So I'm loose, man. So, you know,
Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much for sharing that. I think with, I can't stand when people text me all day. Heck yes. I'm a shitty texter. Me too. I like voice text. That up shit is fire. Cause text messages, you take them so wrong. Like,
Like, you could be like, somebody could be happy as fuck. Like, yeah, whatever, whatever. He's like, whatever? Whatever what? Whatever from yesterday? Because I'm still fucking mad. See, it's just crazy. There's so much shit that gets lost in translation. I think I sound like a bitch when I text. Word? No ha-ha, no, you know, emoji. I'm just like, but I'm not being a bitch about it. However, when someone leaves, this is one of my biggest pet peeves, a voice note that is over a minute long. Why? Why?
A voice note over a mini-along? Yeah. Like, when people are, like, doing the dishes and they're like, okay, wait, hold on one second. Like, hold on one sec. And then they, like, keep talking. Like, just re-record a new voice note. Voice note, yeah. That just reminds me of back in the day when you call your people and you're on the phone with them. They're yelling at people in the background. You be like, what the fuck?
What is something like a girl could record on a voice note and send to you that would be hot? "Come fuck me." That's normal. Normal? What do you mean? Oh shit, if you ain't doing— That's like average shit. If you ain't doing that, then get out of here. I think it's more like, say for instance, I had to be somewhere that required a suit and I never wore a suit, right? And I've been out the house three hours. I'm in a meeting for about 30 minutes.
And my girls just text, God damn, I know you're looking good in that suit right now. Come to the bathroom. Like shit like that, like just funny shit and encouraging. I like that. I forget that dudes love compliments and need them too. Yeah, but a lot of girls are like, wait, you want to feed your ego? That's a woman. That's a girl that's not a woman that says that. Like who don't want to feel like they on their shit? What if I just try a new style of dressing? And the only person that can make me feel comfortable is my who?
Now, if I go outside with my colleagues doing it, they get crazy. Like, that's, it's just a lot of shit, man. I learned a lot of stuff being in a relationship that I never knew in my whole entire life. That's probably the last thing I learned was actually how to be in a relationship and
I know I wasn't the perfect person because I wanted to be better. That's why I said I wasn't the perfect person. But the grass is always greener on the other side if you stop watering yours. To me, a relationship is like lawn. You have to water. You have to cut it. Yeah, you have to clean the edges. Meaning it got to be new shit, new spontaneous. It got to be like. Like you have to put work in it. And I can't date nobody I don't know for under a year. That's just like a new, that's a real rule with me now.
Wait, that's crazy. 350 days. Oh, for sure. I have to know how you treat me when you're mad, how you treat me when you're sad, how you treat me when you've lost a job, how you act around your friends, how you act around your exes, how you act around your family. That's really smart. Because it's going to justify who you are. Then I want to know who your parents are. Then I want to see who your brothers and sisters and your friends is. Because all that...
I have to put in perspective because I'm building a future with you. And that's a part of my future. And that's got to be something that I got to know if I want to deal with or if I don't want to deal with. Right. Or I could consider. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. And you think a year is a good amount of time. Shit, for me, I'm nosy.
Background checks. I already did it. Do you go through the phone? For hell no. That's disgusting. Okay, thank God. That goes back into have your own life. Bro, I don't care who you text. Because at the end of the day, man, I'm from the streets. And I got this one thing. And I hate to be this ghetto and blunt. But if she feel the fucking streets, let her roam it. Fuck her.
I like it. I don't care how much in love I am with you. Key word, I'm in love. Right. The way to keep love is be out of love so you can see the overall view. Being in something, you're blinded. You can't see it out. So you have to be able to be, I like over love. I'm over love already. I can never fall in love again in my life. I know what it feel like. From your divorce. No, I'm a hard lover anyway. I don't take much for me to love you. I
It could be fucking 30 days. I'm like, yo, I love you. Like, I literally love people's personalities. So it's different. I'm a personality guy. I can tell. You're very, the second you walked in the room, like, you have an energy about you. And I've had friends tell me that they've met you and you're always so nice and just bubbly and, like, dope and, like, down to earth. Oh, shit. Damn. Wow. Why are you down to earth since your face? Because I'm walking on land. Because you're walking on land? Yeah. Yeah.
Period. I love that. I don't think I'm... I don't know. I just don't know how to be a shitty person. Like, it really will fuck me up to walk past somebody and say, can I get a picture? Like, I don't know how to say no. I could literally be eating dinner.
And they'd be like, yo, why can't I get a picture of my iPad? I'm the same way. And people would be like, nah, man, he eating. And that actually make me want to do it now. Right. I'm crazy with that shit. To the point where I'm like, actually, do you want to come home with my mom and I and let's have cocktails? It's free promo. Go crazy. It's free promo. We're just fucking nice people. And I love that about us.
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Your cash back really adds up. Brick Squad Monopoly. Yes. That was your most recent post. Is that your, like, latest drop? Yeah, I did that post because that was my first feature I did in over a decade. Mm-hmm. Well, first round of features. Okay. And I kind of stopped making music because...
I did like 40 CDs. I'm like, what the hell? 40? Yeah, I did like mixtapes, like crazy mixtapes. But I think it's just hard. Absolutely not. It's so hard for me to go and lie on a track. I wish I could get on there and be like, yeah, I should sell kilos and I look like Zed Zeppelo. And I was in a Bugatti and I was down in South France. I don't know how to do that shit unless I did it. So I think when I, like now, it took me like a good 8, 10 years
to really live my life. Like, I had to live. I had to live off this, off the success that I was on. So I'm like, yo, what is different? I'm used to eating wings all fucking day and noodles. Like, what's life got to offer? So I went out and seen life. I actually went around the world. I actually seen that white and black people only exist in America. I just got to see a lot of shit. Like, so when I come back to America, I was just,
I ain't gonna lie, bro. I was different. Yeah. My taste buds was different. You took, and how long did you take time out for? I was gone for a minute. For a minute? Yeah. I think that's incredible. And how lucky are you that you're able to do that? You know what I mean? Hello. And I took heed to that. So I was just one of them guys that like, at the beginning of my career, I was just like, uh,
I'll do whatever. Yeah, I could be fresh as a motherfucker. Or I could just look like an everyday person that's just famous. And that shit was better because I got to experience life. And when I went to other countries, I didn't have name brand on. I didn't have jewelry on, but I was just tall as fuck like a football player. But I have a backpack on and some Birkenstocks before like Birks was even popular. Birkenstocks? Yes, I would call them my Jesus walkers.
And they was like, they was just, they was so cheap at the time. The rubber ones. Them the best Birkins ever. All the other ones, they cool. Now they're like expensive, right? No, no, no. They always had expensive versions. I just always loved this affordable version because it was comfortable. I got fat feet. I kept traveling. Mm-hmm. And it looked cool as fuck, too.
It just looks humble. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm coming through with some Jesus walkers on. We should release a shoe line, Jesus walkers. All right. And it will be a mixture of a Birkenstock and a clog. Erno, what are the ones that are like, and they put like little pins in it, little alligators. You can decorate them. Yeah, but you know what they go? Crocs. What is it? Crocs. What did I just call it? Clogs. Alligators? Damn, man. All the hungry fucking hippos.
Look at that little game-hungry hippos with the mouth. That's what crocs look like. So you hate crocs? Fuck no, I love them. They just make my feet stink. Oh, shit. Okay. The Birkenstock thing, interesting. Are they as comfortable as people say? Oh, my God. I got them right now in my bag. Yo, Birks, I'm letting you know right now. In your bag? Of course, travel with Birks. Mandatory. So— Mando. What makes you, like, switch your shoes? Driving. Driving.
Traveling. Got it. The Birkenstocks just have that grip. I would low-key. On the gas. I would have went like shoeless in here if y'all had slippers on.
- Are you wearing slippers? - No, I want to so bad. - You can take your shoes off. - I was out all day meeting agencies and I started doing TV and acting. - That shit's so exhausting. - Voiceovers for me, yeah. - Yeah, well, and back to something you said about you don't feel comfortable. Actually, not even that you don't feel comfortable. You cannot go into a studio and lie.
Right? Like, if someone were to write up a bunch of lyrics, like, you can't just act them out. Yeah. And I think because of that reason, the work you do is ten times more exhausting. But then I think it can be equally exhausting to play a character and everything you say is not true to you. Yeah. But, you know, but I'm a good actor. I be around people I don't fucking like almost all the time. Did you hear that gulp?
And I act like I like everybody. I'd be like, yeah, that was a crazy goal. But you felt that. You know what I'm saying? You'd be around motherfuckers you can't stay. You'd be like, I'm Zach today. And you're doing it with a poker face. So you got to think to yourself, like, what the hell is that? At least I get to go home. I just want to—I want a go-home kind of job. I want to be able to go home. And feel good about yourself. Yeah, I'm about to be looking at 40. That's when I want kids.
So I'm trying to line my life up to have that. That was going to be one of my questions. Because you were with someone who had a kid already. And you, you know, became her father. Yes. What is that like dating someone with a kid? Because I'm 31. Uh-huh. So I'm assuming that there's going to be more men. You got a kid? No. Oh. But I feel like there's going to be potentially guys with a kid. Yeah.
I wonder if I would be cool with that or not. Oh, that's only an answer you can ask. I'm like, so what do you, like how? I know for me, right? I don't know, man. She just made me feel like a superhero. I don't think nobody outside of my moms or nobody made me feel like it. Wow, that's really special. And fans. Like, I'm dead serious. Like, it comes from my mother, brothers, family.
fans my daughter. Like, she actually, like, I just never seen nobody genuinely love me like that without a purpose. Like, she literally just loved me because I loved her. Like, it's crazy. Like, it's crazy the shit kids can do to you. And I didn't care what she looked like. She could have been a fucking frog as far as I care. But the way her love was just crazy. Like, she'd just wake up and be like,
Hey, hey, I'm dead or dead out today. You'd be like, what the fuck? So cute. And I was just going with it. I just, now she's just 18. She don't call. That just made me emotional. That's like the sweetest thing I've ever heard. And I had a single mom up until I was six.
And then my stepdad came into the picture and adopted me, and I will love him forever. Facts, yeah. But for her— He's my dad. Yeah, facts. But it's still—I can always still see that little—
want to know why you don't love me like this guy do, dad. And that's what kept me in it. Like, I always want to know, like, yo, it don't mean nothing. I'm here. Like, I don't give a damn what are you going through. I'm your dad. Like, I'm here. Yeah. Like, I'm here. Like, I always got to, like, break that down to her. She's a cancer. So I know exactly how cancers can, like, fall deep, spiral down. Right? But one thing I did learn with a cancer is,
The way you talk to y'all is everything. Like, y'all respect a person that's mad that don't yell. But actually give you a reason why you mad so I could be a better person. Totally. So one thing I learned with my daughter was she never wanted to be stuck being a bad or I did not ride a bike person. She just wanted to be told or shown how to do it. Not in the way you want to show it, in a way she comprehended. Got it.
I guess all kids are like that, but that was just my experience with my dog. And I just noticed, Kansas is just emotional, man, but they just love you. Yeah. Yeah, that's my dog. They got a weird way of showing love, but it's good, though. How do we show love? Oh, Jesus. It definitely comes with jokes.
Sarcasm. Is this a girl thing or a cancer thing? I only know of girls in cancer. I never met a male cancer in my life. It's too spot on to not be about a cancer. But continue, I'm dying. I just know a lot of shit about cancers. Just your child life trauma. You'll probably never trust a man based off what your father did. Never. Ever, ever, ever. But you will. Because when a man come in your life, you will know.
Just how you say you felt energy, you're going to feel a man. Yeah. A man will never remind you of what a boy did. Remember that.
Whoa. A man will never remind you of something a boy did. Hell no. That's fucking, I like that. Hell no. But you got to be willing. You can't fault the new person for what the old person did. And I do. I do that shit all the time. Yeah. Well, then I guess somebody got to know what they're coming into. So it's delicate. You see what I'm saying? This is a china glass. This is not a regular fucking glass. You don't just hand this around. This is not a shot glass.
So I think the way the delicacy of a cancer on top of having past trauma, past relationship, this, you guys just got to, you got to want to fuck with you. People like that, you just, in relationships, period, you got to want to do it. It's no, that's how you say how I deal with a person with a baby. I wanted to do it. It was no, this is somebody else's kid. No, this is, this is what it is. I'm in this. It's over. I don't think I've ever been in love.
Honestly. Really? I've never allowed myself. Like, my trust issues are so crazy. I don't even know if it's a trust issue thing. I mean, we know what it is, right? It's the relationship with my dad. But the relationship with my stepdad, also not great.
But I don't even call him my stepdad. But the guy that, when I was six years old, married my mom. Yeah, it's definitely friction because all you got to do is say your dad. So a guy like me know that. That was the dead giveaway. I'm like my step twice removed. Like, look, bro, I'm such a gem of a dad.
You know, people's questions actually give me their answers. But they want to hear my perspective. I want to just look it up right now because you guys are two-faced. Two? Shit, I'm ten-faced. What?
It's my two-face. I'm a dad, an investor, a broker, a real estate agent, a fucking tech guy, a rapper, a big brother, a CEO. A world traveler. Hey, you got to have a lot of personality. Yeah, you have a lot of personality. I don't have a choice.
That's just, that's how my life is. It's not about why. Actually, why is drifting. That's become therapy and I dig it in my head for nothing. And I'm the only person in it.
One thing about my mind, I know I'm the only person in. I would never allow another person in my head. I know. I'm like, okay, I can tell because I have been talking about my shit, my life. I'm literally talking about my stepdad. I'm interviewing you. You're good. You should start a podcast. I got one called We Play in Spades with Desi Banks. When did you start that? There's no. We on our second episode. But I did it just right. Second episode? Yeah, I probably shot like 16 of them.
Oh, okay. So you're doing it the smart way. Like you like batched a bunch of episodes. Yeah, I just met a lot of busy people. You know what I'm saying? I respect people's schedule, right? Yeah. That's another thing you go run into in your relationships. People will just be jealous as fuck.
Nine times out of ten. Then you never come home. It's like being a lawyer with a good husband that wants to see his wife at 8 o'clock for dinner. Yeah. But yeah. My last relationship was— It's none of my business. Oh, my God. None of my business. Okay. I love that response because I want to ask you about yours. So you have multiple girlfriends, friends that are girls. Yes. You're not seeing anyone romantically. No. No.
If you were, would you even talk about it publicly? You would know. But I'm asking you right now. You would know. I would know? Fuck yeah. Everybody in the world. I'm not a guy that hides love. Yeah. The internet can't crush my relationship. Hmm. It's in candy. Do you think it's weird if a girl never wants to post you on her socials? No, there's no problem.
But. That's her life. Do you want to post your girl on your social media? Sometimes. I'm just not a good picture guy. Like, I'm not like, oh, let's get this moment. Which is great. Fuck no. We living in it. Fuck that picture. We don't got a photographer. It's over. Yeah. If a guy looks like the picture was not taken by accident, then that's.
cringed me. Bright flag. Every picture needs to look like it was taken by accident, you know? Yeah, because they all pose the same. Everybody poses the same. Oh my God, wait, how do they pose? That's what I'm doing, being single, man. I'm trying to think of the poses they do. Being single, all the girls pose the same, same hairstyle, same kind of clothes set up. So you'd be like, yo, what the fuck? Not me, though.
Well, I'm a guy. We all go say the same shit. So get ready. I'm in a man cave. This is what we talk about. Hello, ladies. We don't give a fuck. I'm fucking ready. Oh, you don't give a fuck about what we're wearing? I do. Okay, you do care. I really do. One thing about a girl that's trying to date me, you have to know how to dress. And I'm not talking about name brand at all. You got to look clean. You have to have good hygiene. There's no exception. Good hygiene. If you fucking wake up.
And just get up and leave without brushing your teeth is a red flag. I'm telling you right now. I'm dead ass serious. That's some shit that I'm not looking over. Okay, what about after a one night stand? Oh, you still can brush your teeth. Finger. Two parts. Nothing to talk about. Fuck. Okay. Listerine, something. I usually just run out. So you're waking up next to this girl and you're looking out. It was that bad you had to run out? No.
Fuck with me. You go play house. Really? Yeah, you go in the... Yeah, you going to Expresso? I'm like, wow, I got to stay up for this one. Yeah, it's that vibe. No, but I would never do that because I feel like guys get scared. They're like, oh my God, I dickmatized this bitch. She's making me hug. What are you dating, boy, man?
I guess so. Dudes with huge egos. No, you got fans. It's your fans. Hey, fanboy doll. You don't even know it, though. No, I— Trust. It's like that. Fans can be very, very— Convincing? Yes. Yes.
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You like a little teddy bear, huh? A little teddy bear. No. You want your little human teddy bear. It's not like I prefer it. It was just there. Why, you shave? Yours? Every night you're like... You get to growl at his shit. Do you shave yours? I don't even grow hair. Like, I wish I had chest hairs and shit. I don't even, like, my arms, nothing. Nothing. I don't grow hair, man. What a lucky guy. Man. Okay, I'm just going to tell you, this guy...
Got a tattoo the size of my head saying Sophia across his leg like two weeks into us dating. But I need you to see the picture to do it justice because it's so fucking crazy. That boy love you. That boy love you. So is that a fan or loves me? It could go a lot of ways. Me publicly asking you.
It really could be like, yo, sometimes, yo, you could be somebody's dream girl, right? Seriously. And not who you are, how you act, how you look, how you carry yourself, your charisma, everything. Yeah. And based off y'all connection, that shit just like electrified it. And now they're like, oh, shit, I got to show how I will go any measure to keep a Sophia tattoo. But then on another side, that kind of get like, you'd be like, yo, you'll go that hard? What the fuck else you would do? Right.
Hot outside my job? I think two weeks in, that is kind of a red flag. No, that's crazy. You get block of block on you. It's awful. Have you ever done that? What? Gotten a girl's name tattooed. On me? Mm-hmm. Yeah, my ex.
Where? On my ring finger. Okay. Other than that, hell no. I ain't doing that. Wait, does she have yours? Yeah. She does. A couple of them. Do you think that's hot? I'm not ignoring you, by the way. I'm multitasking because I need you to see it. Ooh. Ooh. We don't even need to talk about it.
Power to that guy, man. By the way, that's my handwriting. I was just about to say some shit. Like, he signed that. That's kind of—how did he get that? What do you mean? Oh, like, why? I have no idea. How did he get your handwriting with your name? Because we were at dinner, and I wrote with lipstick on a napkin. I was, like, practicing my signature. Let me find out you're toxic. Let me find out that's what you're doing to—
I mean, no. That was, how could I? You finally met one of the members, bro. But how could I, too? One of the members. Oh, my God. I never would think something like that. No, I'm fully a member, but I have a really good heart. I just have issues with dudes. Like, so what? I don't know. No, that's not a good excuse. It is not. I'm sorry. Okay, well, I'll work on it. I just need, like, another 15 years. You got to stop looking for the same kind of dude.
That's the problem. No, I don't date the same kind. I've dated from all over the fucking map. Like older, younger, like everything. Super smart, Harvard, not so smart. But that's what, again, now maybe you need to learn how to clamp the cooch. Right? Clamp the cooch and learn how to lock in and learn people. Are you saying like learn how to close my legs?
Because I'm being a slut? Yeah, close them. Not because you're a slut, because you just need to learn the power of closing the cooch, right? Because when you close your cooch, you open your mouth. And not to blow nothing, but to— I was going to say, mm-mm, not me. It's cool. But the problem at hand is you just need to learn these people. Because you're learning them. This is why I gave myself the year shit, right? Because you always meet people when the first three months is fire. Mm.
So like the first month is cool. Like, oh, I like this. You like this. This is my show. This is your show. Hey, I like hummus. You like hummus. Like it's that shit. And then you start going into, okay, what do you really do? Yeah. Oh, his career is cringy. Oh, he got way too much time. How the fuck is he calling me at this time of night? It's just a lot of shit. You need to learn that not being in a relationship. How do you do that? By not being intimate.
Oh, I see. Like you get to know someone. Take the intimacy away. You got to put them in scenarios that you could see different characteristics of the person. Let me bring a friend. Let me bring him here. Let's do this. That's my friend. Like how could you date or be with anybody that's not your friend? Like my ex, I'm telling you right now, like I could talk to her right now. Like that's my dog. Did she hold out? Huh? Did she hold out? Like she wouldn't hook up with you right away?
When? Well, hold out. Like she wouldn't have sex with you or you don't remember? Nah, we held out. A little bit. I was younger, so I didn't know holding out with me. But I just think like when y'all are friends, man, y'all literally respect that before a relationship, before us. That shit saved so much of my past relationship because I was her friend.
And you get to grow up with people. Like, you're still growing up, right? So, but now you know exactly what you want. So I think you should just let it come to you now. And not come for you. Come to you, not for me. Yes, and coming to you is actually taking your time to see if it's for you. Coming for you is just jumping in it. They came for you. They got you. They captured you. It's like a kidnapping.
Like, it's like, I'm laughing because it's like, that is very accurate. Hell yeah. I've been through it. I'm just telling you from experience and like friends, my female friends, she be talking like, yo, Waka. Oh my fucking God. I'm like, oh shit. What the fuck happened? But it's some crazy ass guys out there. Like these guys is different, yo. I know guys like, no, mom, that's too crazy because people could like pin shit together because, but.
but it's just crazy though. It's just some sick shit out here. I've confused a dude being like super aggressive and acting super into me early on as that's him showing that he like really fucking loves me. And now I'm thinking, hmm, maybe that was more of like a toxic thing that stemmed from insecurity. Like I need your name tattooed on my face. Let's move in together, you know, a month in.
Damn. I mean, I was kind of exaggerating with the move-in thing, but like, very in time. No, I get it, though. I get it, I get it. That's just nowadays shit, man. You got to find somebody that got a life, got a career, and a complete. And another thing about relationships is that you can't join something you don't have 100% in your cup with.
Like, you can't go at people with 50%, 40%, 60% in your cup because now, while you busy trying to fill your cup, you busy trying to fill a relationship as well and vice versa. And now you're pouring in this person, pouring that person in. Somebody might get empty before the other one in. If you don't recognize that, there's a problem because now I feel used. Now I'm bored. Now this shit is repetitive. Yeah. Because you just, it's just a lot of shit. I've never entered a relationship being like 100% in.
Ever. Wow. But after today, I'm going to be a new bitch. Next relationship. And you got to watch the world. See how you put yourself like a new bitch? I shouldn't say that. Y'all love bitches. You know why? Why? Because one thing. What's a bitch first? A female dog. Now, what do a female dog needs? Food, water, shelter, bathing, good owner.
Boyfriend, replacing with the word owner. The day the guy stopped doing that, what happens to the bitch? It acts up, right? It runs out the house. It strays. It goes to the neighbor. It's the day you find another owner that does the same thing that's not your bitch. So get your theology out of saying I'm a bad bitch, real bitch, this bitch, in place of that woman I want to be. Because then you will fall into manifesting that reality. Yeah. You're living in a bitch reality. So it's bitchy shit. Yeah.
It's messy. It's this. It's that. Not saying it's bad because some people thrive in that world. I don't. But for you, it's not working. So get out of it. I thought that world was just the entertainment industry. Yeah, it's cool to be a figure of speech alter ego. But to live by that, you got to watch it. Yeah. How did this recording end up like this? Because you needed it. I didn't. Next interview, I might fucking need it. You might be like, Waka.
I need you to chug this and I need you ask me one question. Ask me for a piece of advice. Yeah, I would have. You're like, I would have if I thought you were good at giving it. Nah, you are though. What you are actually good at is making shit happen. Yeah. What you are good at is starting from nothing. Ask people to say to make something. But what you need to be even better at is taking notes while you do it. If I could just try to play some assistance in life with you, I think, you know how you got a white screen that comes down?
If your life could be on a white screen, I wish that you could sit, eat popcorn, and watch the movie and take notes. Ooh, I like that. Because now you will realize how far you came. Like from an outsider looking in. Yes, you got to get you. You're not there. You're here. I need you to live in the now. Get out of the past. Fuck the future's anxiety, the past depression. The now is exciting. It's life. Yeah.
You're good. I don't know. I mean, you're fucking good. You're very talented. Thank you. And very intelligent. I've been through a lot of bullshit. Yes. That people just thought a guy was going to break me. I'm looking like, bro, this is nothing. Only way it didn't break me because I seen him try to do it purposely. So I knew it was fake.
That's all. I just got a real ass parent. Like my mom was just real as fuck. My family is super realist. Yeah. So when you see something for what it is, don't ever believe something different. Right. Like don't talk yourself out of it. You're fucked if you do. Yeah. Because now you're living a lie. Are you close with your mom? What? Best friend? She with me. She in the car? What's she have me? Yeah.
She's in the car. Yeah, she was just in the car, knocked out. This is good. It's the first time my mother even listened to me. I love that. I'm a mama's boy to the full. I would live with my mother if I could. You would. Fucking right. If I never got into a relationship, I would have stayed in the house with my mother, used my house as an experience, fucking fuck off house, playhouse, rap in there, do business. She didn't cook you stuff? Hello. Hello.
But your mom is a badass. Like, she's a fucking entrepreneur, like, crazy. And me too. Very successful. Does she have time to cook? Why do she? Every Sunday. Every Sunday. For sure. For sure. It's the best, too. That's really sweet. I love it. Okay, well, did you at least roll the window down?
Your mom's in the car. You know, my boy in there driving. Okay, good. He been with us for a minute, so. Yeah. She all right. By the way, everybody, Waka was late today. Yeah, he was. Ten minutes. I actually seen your engineer first. He was early. I seen him ten minutes before the time I was supposed to be here. And his exact words was, hey, can you give me ten minutes? We got a recording going on. I'm like, hmm. So?
Sophie's not here. I'm like, hmm, she's 15 minutes late. I like this. I was walking to the liquor store to get you that bottle of rosé. Oh, I'm going to drink the fuck out of it. So, thank you. Mimosami. And look what else they brought. It's the tar. Whoa. Have you ever smoked this shit? No, I'm just kidding. That's a seasoning. Don't smoke that.
Do not. Mediterranean? I love Mediterranean food. This is like, you need to put this on. Take it if you want. I just said bitch again. Woman, excuse me. See how fast I learned. No, I don't. I don't. I want you to teach me how to roll a blunt. Because you said you were going to hire a full-time blunt roller. Right? Yeah, you can roll this. You can roll anything.
I can't even open it. Wait, there's another one. I got you. I put my mouth on it though. Is that okay? I'm paranoid after the brush your teeth comment. I definitely did. All right, then.
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Ooh, here we go. Before you break the blend down, right? Lick it. Before you did all that, right, you got to put the flour. It's called flour. Crush it up. Yeah, you find out how much flour you want to put on there. Wait, do you put it in like those little crusher things? No, it's kind of corny. I'll take that. It is. Wait, what is this? Rosé.
Okay, so we're turning up, apparently. Can we just do it with another kind of flower I have? Okay. Me trying to, me bringing the za'atar as a decoy. That was hard as fuck, though. I thought that was actually a bottle to do that. That would have been fire. Wait, what would you have done if I let you smoke it? I wouldn't have smoked that. I would have known that's fake.
I've been blowing this for some years. Mm-hmm. I bet. Two decades. Okay. What am I doing? Now, you grab the blunt. You don't. That's crazy. Like, nobody want to smoke that. Yeah. It's not a penis. Nah. You want to go, like, just lick it? Does it matter where along the line? Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah.
I want to get his glygus. Just grab like this. Okay, well, you're putting a lot of your tongue on it. Not really. Just a tip. Now, you go, you crack them, get the glygus. See your thumbs? Put two thumbs and just one, two. Whoa, that was crazy shit. Oh, it's like a little operation. Yeah. Like someone's on the operating table. Five. Like surgery. Six, seven, eight. Wow.
Nine. It's always ten little pulls. Okay, well, you're going really fast. Let me, hold on, hold on. Put the two, put the two. Let me see. Let me see. It's all good. You see your thumbs? Squeeze it together, I guess, with your thumbs. It's nail to nail. Ooh, but my nails are long. That's even better shit. Oh, oh, oh. Okay, I see now. And then you crack it open. It's like, it's like snow crabs.
Imagine if you could like crack the snow crab a little and just break it in half. Right. What do you think about when people roll their own cigarettes? I hate, I don't get that. I don't even like cigarettes. Which, by the way, there's no. That's how it'll look, right? You know, I have like a, this. I want to take a picture of this shit. I can't smoke weed. I don't blame you. I get like real crazy. Oh, I don't blame you. And I've smoked crack, which I was telling you earlier in it.
Yeah. Did not affect me the same. It didn't? No. Like, I can handle that better. Well, guess what? That wasn't crack then. They lied to you. Okay, I was smoking it off of aluminum foil. And they said it was coke.
- So then it's just freebasing it? I don't know the difference. - Freebase. So, yeah, we'll learn drug one-on-one, but I don't know that shit. I wish. - Once again. - I'll probably be in jail. - You said you smoked it yesterday. - The day before. Yo, you see this like this? Go like this, take the two edges like this. - Okay. - Now go like this, look. Lick 'em together.
The three of them? See how you lick that? Oh, I did that. Perfect. And then I do the other side. Like right across from it? Like that, babe. Whoa. Then you go and put your little chronic in there. My oregano? How am I doing that? Fuck, I forgot that seasoning. Wait, would it taste better? Would it taste good if I like... I don't think you want to do that. I don't think you want to do that.
So don't season the marijuana. Fuck no. Yeah, this is seasoning. You're putting collard greens in it right now. Thank you. But if we were into marijuana, we wouldn't. This is flower. I don't know about marijuana. It's the illegal way. Okay. It's illegal terminology. That's how I'm going to refer to it. It's like saying ecstasy. Then you say, no, this is Adderall. No, I think you mean meth is Adderall. Okay.
Methamphetamine? Mm-hmm. Because it really, truly is. What's inside of ecstasy? Methamphetamine. Is it? I don't know. Obviously, I don't know because I don't know if I smoked crack or baking soda. It was baking soda. So I'm not, no. There's no way. You got this. I was awake for like three days straight. Oof, that was crazy meth. So, it was definitely. That was meth.
Can a little crack do that to you? So you see how you fold it, how you got it now like this? Mm-hmm. I want you to take this with that, like your hands like this now. Okay. See my fingers? Like that. Now just roll them. That's crazy. Hell no. I'm a shitty roller, so to this day. There's no way.
Do you know what empanadas are? I love empanadas. Like, I'm from Argentina, and that's what I'm trying to do right now. It's shitty, but it works. I just—what if I just lick it and then shut it? Yeah, you can do that. Like, it's a letter. Or I just rewrap it in a paper. It's the best. And this is a stamp. Wait, what do you mean? I get a rolling paper? Mm-hmm. Wow. That's— It's actually in this one. Oh!
This you could not smoke. What's in that? This has real shit, but I'm saying I can't close it. That's way too much work. I wish there was no... But you got this Swisher Sweet, though. That's not even mine. Is that like not the brand we should fuck with or what? Nah, we go Leafs only. Damn. It's not wasted. Okay, so we're not getting a high right now.
I got my blunt. See, I would smoke it like this. Anything that's a paper is a joint. Well, that's a bit spicy for me. Wait, is that how you're supposed to smoke it? I'm a little spicy if I get that. That's how I smoke cigarettes, too. My name going to be Waki if I smoke like this. All right. Okay, Waka, you are an amazing person. Like, you are a genuinely really great guy. I am walking away from this interview happy.
A better person. For real. That's nice. So thank you so much for coming. And when are you going to have me on your podcast? You know I play Spades? Mm-hmm. For real? Mm-hmm. Holy fuck. All right. When am I going to come on? Whenever you got a partner. Oh, well, you have 16 episodes recorded already. But I'm going for like 100.
Damn. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to take that blunt, though. You are? I'm just saying. Okay. Did you bring anything for me? Yes. Okay. It's just in the car? Yeah. Okay. You got to come get in the car. Okay. Waka, where can everybody find you? They can find me at your local gas station buying gravel leaves. I don't need to do that. Excuse me. We do not need to do that bullshit outro. Look, catch me at the gas station buying gravel leaves. Okay.
You can couch walk a creepin' around New York. Yo, I was just walkin' in that park. And I... Yo, it's somethin' I forgot that I used to love the most. What? Is walkin' around in New York City parks. Mm-hmm. And they got good conversations. So if you ever yearnin' for a conversation, go into a New York City park. You might get cursed out at first. But...
Shit be worth it. Yeah, I need to be in nature more. I'll go days in my apartment. We're going to go to the park and smoke this. But I can't live without nature.
Yeah. No, I'm dead ass serious. You're wise. Like, I will literally perish. Mm-hmm. Literally. Like, I would choose a house in a forest, glass house in a forest, over a Bugatti in a penthouse downtown square any day. Okay. See, that shit scares me. Like, anyone can see what you're up to. But I'm also a woman, so it's a little bit scarier to walk around the house. Yeah, but I don't think you're going to be in no glass house by yourself.
That's some dog baby shit. That's some what, sauce? That's some dog baby shit. Oh, yeah. So, not talking to you in a glass house, a man is in there with you. Have you seen Frogging? What's that? P.
people that hide in like the attic and shit. It's real. I'll tell you about it later. I know about that. You did? You saw it. I know somebody that stayed in the studio I was at, right? This big ass studio. They lived in the attic of the studio. Shut up. I swear to God. They was revamping the studio and seeing a whole fucking house apartment. It's room about big as this shit right here behind the wall. This is my biggest fear.
Fear and like obsession right now. So what, like he had like a mini fridge and shit in there? Everything. I had obsession going into sewers. Really? What about sewers? There's some shit under there. That's all I say. The alligators? I don't know. I don't think I should be talking, but it's definitely some shit under there. Damn. Should we check it out?
Try? Hell no. Nah. But the frogging thing, would the person like move shit around the studio and you'd be like, wait, I don't remember touching that? No, he was in the fucking walls. In the walls. That's what I'm talking about. No, I know. He literally lived in the wall. I said, how the fuck is that possible? That shit scares the fuck out of me. How long was he living? He said, I don't know. I can't be for years. Damn, would you hear weird noises and shit?
I never heard shit. I was in there turning up fucking making music, classic music. You're a frogger's like wet dream. Like you would never notice if anything was moved, any sounds. I probably wouldn't even be mad at them. I'd just kick them out.
There's something just so creepy about it. I would literally kick them out, knock the wall down, and extend my room. Thank you. I'd be like, thank you. Fucking thank you for letting me know I can extend this shit. You out of here, though, buddy. You'd give them a tenant form to fill out to make it official? Nah, I'd give them a voucher. Give them a voucher if they could have an estate for 30 days. You would get the fuck out of here, buddy.
An eviction notice. Like, who can't say, see ya, peace? That's a testament to how nice you are. Okay, Waka, thank you so much. Sleuths, I will talk to you next week. I might get high. We don't know. If I do, I'll be at New York Presbyterian Hospital. Waka, thank you. Aw, all right, babe.
