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It's Sophia Franklin. You are listening to Sophia with an F and the F is for phenomenal. This podcast is rated F. What do you think is harder? And answer correctly, please. Podcasting or SNL? Doing a live sketch.
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Hi, everybody. Welcome to Sophia with an F. I am here with Kenan Thompson. We are recording from WTF Media Studios in New York. Yes. This is the best place to record. It definitely is. Kenan, you've been here before? I've been here before talking to my good friend, Neal Brennan. And in this very room, my little children were able to play while we had a conversation in the next room.
So WTF is what's up? Family friendly, awesome environment. So was someone watching your kids or no? Yeah. One of his producers was like, I love that. How old are your kids? Big girl just turned nine and the little ones turning five at the end of the month. Is that hard? Yeah. Kids are hard, but they're great. You know, they get easier.
Kind of in that in-between pocket where they are now, where they can get themselves up and have breakfast kind of thing. Yeah. And then it gets hard again, I think, in the double-digit teenager kind of years and stuff. I was going to say. I think it goes in waves. But right now we're in a pretty great wave. That's great. I was going to say, me in middle school slash high school, horrifying. It's a lot of pressure. Yeah.
Especially on girls, I feel like. It is a lot of pressure. And I think you're just going through all those changes of growing up. And I just want to say I'm sorry, Mom, because I was absolutely out of control. But she did a good job. Are you guys cool now? Best friends. See, they come back to you. Yeah. That's good. But I also don't have a dad. So.
So I think like we had to be best friends. - I mean, if he was there, I would hope that you would still be best friends with your mom. - If he was, if my dad was in the picture, we would be homies. No doubt.
Dad, do you hear that? And my voice, which Keenan and I were just discussing, it doesn't sound too bad today. My voice has not been normal and it's been hoarse for... Why is it called hoarse? I really fucking hate that. But it's been hoarse for the past four months. It's probably because somebody was hoarse when they were trying to say course. Coarse.
- Oh, that's it, horse. Sorry, that was a bad joke. Made me laugh though. - That was really good. It's like you are on SNL or something. - Something. - One of the best comedians of our time. - Me? - Yeah. - Well, thank you. - Yeah. Would you believe me if I said you are my favorite person on SNL and always have been?
Would I believe you? I guess. Thank you. I never really know what to do with that when people say stuff like that. Yeah. You can say thank you if you want. I just say thank you. You know what I mean? And it's a blessing and an honor and a privilege. But more so, I'm in appreciation because my time spent, my work, my labor, my pains, my tears, you know, it's not going in vain. You know what I'm saying? So it's like surface level based, bottom level.
Start from there. Yeah, everything is up from there. You know I'm your favorite great, you know if you just like the show great But I guess one thing that's unfair is like, you know, you're the only one that's good on that show when I hear that I'm like come on like you're not really giving people a chance You know I'm saying it sounds like the old man listening to young people's music Turn that shit down basically You just don't understand
the comedy tone of the time or something or you gotta give them time to grow on you you know what I mean like totally totally they're all just people at the same time and people have feelings you know what I mean so they'll say that shit with like two or three of them
you know in earshot not really knowing that I'm around people that are on the show and like you know it's it's uncomfortable so have you ever overheard someone saying you're the only good person on the show but you were not the person they were talking about yeah and does it hurt your feelings I guess it did in the beginning but then I realized they don't really even probably know what I can do yet you know what I mean because when I was hearing that kind of shit
you know they were saying that to like the amy pollard's of the world and amaya rudolphs and it was like my first couple years and i didn't really start doing really well on the show until my fifth-ish kind of year like i had some sketches or whatever you know that other people wrote but i didn't feel personally successful there until like my fifth season so like i let that kind of roll over my back but when you're in your first couple seasons plus i've been acting for a long time
When this is like your first big thing and you go to these functions and people say those things, you know, that shit can cut kind of deep. Yeah, absolutely. Are you like big on social media? I look at Instagram. Not really. Like you just do the scroll. Instagram is the only one. Yeah. Like you're not posting, you know, 16 stories a day. Here's my avocado toast. No. And posting is it's an uphill battle for me. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm like.
I wanna put shit up that people wanna see, but at the same time I don't need a third, fifth job type shit. - Yeah. - And I like sharing, but I don't like sharing for approval's sake type shit. And that's what a lot of that is. 'Cause you know, say what you will, like I don't give a fuck if people don't like my video. You do, you know what I'm saying? Like when you post some shit that gets 30,000 likes, or you post some shit that gets six,
You feel that? You're like, oh, snap. Why don't people like the butterfly? Like, I liked it or whatever the fuck. You know what I'm saying? Right. So it's just weird and new for me. And I skipped probably all of that on purpose because, like, I didn't even have, like, MySpace or nothing or Facebook until, like, I started on Instagram. Oh, shit. And then, like, retro Twitter and Facebook and shit like that. And now TikTok that somebody else runs or whatever. But, like.
- Yeah, it's not really my super duper thing. - It's actually not mine either. And it should be, and I'm trying to get better at it. I just, I don't feel, just kidding, I love posting a food pic. That's the one thing. And that's probably shit that people don't really appreciate, but people that are really good and excel on social media platforms are posting constantly all the time.
So I just, I can't bring myself to be like, I am walking, you know, from a bodega home. I want to post this. Yeah. It just, it's not as inspiring of a world. Like it's a great connective tissue thing to like, now you have a reach to all these people you might not have been able to. And like Twitter was incredible for that. Like motherfuckers would tweet at Obama and he tweet right back. And you know, Trump was the worst version of that, I guess. But yeah,
That was unprecedented. You know what I mean? We're never able to just hit the president and have a response in the same day. You know what I mean? Like, never in the world. And, you know, whether or not you can do anything with that response is just the fact that you got that person's attention and, you know, the world can see it, basically. Like, that's a powerful thing if you know how to use it. I don't really know how to use that. And also, like, the posting a million times a day, like, makes it less special to me because if it's just a numbers game,
But then, you know, what is the point of even being creative? You know what I'm saying? You're just dumping out a bunch of output. So like when Will Smith jumped in the game in the beginning, you know, he was making all these dope ass videos and shit. And now it's just a lot less of that because it's just about just put anything up. We don't have time to like edit a crazy version of you jumping through dimensions or whatever the fuck he was doing.
So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, but I do like Instagram because it's, you know, a bunch of pictures and videos and shit. Motherfuckers are funny on the internet. Like, memes are great, shit like that. So, it just feels like the cons are outweighing the pros slightly. Right. Depends on how you look at it, though. At the same time, like, I might sound like the old man that doesn't like the new music.
Yeah, maybe. Also, I mean, you were saying earlier, podcasting is not going to be here for much longer. So everything I just said about posting on social media, I take back. I fucking love it. I will brush my teeth and I will fucking post that. I think podcasting will be around. I just don't know how lucrative it will be, just the straight up interview format style. You know what I mean? Yeah. It seems like people are pivoting into...
You know, audio on the radio, you know, TV on the radio type shit. Like scripted content. Yeah. Yeah. I think I would actually kill it. Scripted content. You should start right now. Okay. Should we just, should we come up with a fucking story and play it out? I think so. I can't next to you. Just try it. I'm not like a professional or nothing. Okay. My number one dream in life is to be on Broadway. Not with this voice. This is not my voice. Where'd you grow up?
Salt Lake City, Utah. I'm sorry. That's rough. Can you elaborate? I spent a summer in Salt Lake City and it was like being in purgatory. It's fucking crazy, right? But there's, I guess, things to enjoy there. Like there's, it's a lot of outdoorsy, but yeah, it's pretty stale. Like coming from Atlanta and LA and like New York,
It's tough. They got a lot of rules that hold them back from just like being normal almost. You know what I'm saying? It seems like so. Yeah, a lot of state laws and just certain ways of going about shit that makes you be like, I don't even want to do this shit anymore. You know what I'm saying? If I got to sign up for a club to have a drink, I don't even want to drink anymore. Like it's just too much. You know, I just want to go and like have a good time or whatever. You know, I didn't really know anybody there to like really, really show me like
you know, the great part of Salt Lake is that you can have your family around and you can barbecue every day and like Park City was cool. - You're into that sort of thing. - It was the summertime, you know what I mean? So it wasn't Sundance, it wasn't like nothing like, there was no skiing. Like, motherfuckers was just up there. So I was like, all right, cool. And yeah, it was, but,
The good part about that experience is that I became close with my castmates. Zach Levi and Fran Kranz. Shout y'all out. Those are my brothers. Because, like, we were just...
- Trying to entertain each other, bored to death, it's all like. - Trauma bonding. - Sorry, I'm not trying to shit on anybody, she was mad boring, yo. - I mean, why do you think I got arrested three times? - Doing? - Underage drinking. I got arrested for forgery. - Forgery? - Which was on the cover of a magazine. - Okay. - There used to be this thing called Busted Magazine, do you remember that? - No. - It was like a newspaper that they would put out every week.
and it would have all the inmates from that week, just their mug shots. - They had like the newspaper version of that in Florida. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a newspaper, like two, three sheets. It was 99 cents and they put me on the cover. - What did you forge? - Not to brag. They wrote forgery. It was for using a fake ID.
I mean, you see what I'm saying? That's Utah. We made the cover for using a fake ID. Right. Yeah, that is stale. That's what I'm saying. The rules and everything, it makes you want to get fucking arrested. And also the Great Salt Lake. What is that? It's just like the desert. No. Is it sand or is it water? No, it's an actual lake. And it smells, it's so salty and it smells like shit.
- So that's cool. - And you can't go in it. - And you can't go in there. So name the whole city after that, why don't we? - Yeah. Where no one should ever fucking go. It looks like a swamp. - Because it's the one thing on your mind when you get there. So like, where's the Salt Lake? - I have no idea and I've only been there one time and I don't remember why I was there, but yeah. You know what, Utah fucked me up, but it gave me character. - Are you Mormon? - So my grandma and my grandpa are. So my mom was raised. - So you're not? - No.
You got to choose? Yeah. Yeah. I think they would absolutely love it if I was. And every time I go home, my grandpa's like, I'm going to pull out the Bible and let me just show you this passage. Are you religious at all? Like spiritual or whatever? No, I'm not. Are you?
more spiritual. Like I grew up like Baptist in a non-denominational church, but like the lady that founded the church was, she was Baptist. You know what I'm saying? So like most Southern black people are Baptist. Like that's a thing or Methodist or whatever, but the first one was Baptist basically. So it's all derivative of that. So like, yeah, that's how we kind of grew up. And I hold on to a lot of those teachings and, you know, stories and lessons and shit like that, but more so spiritual now because I,
I'm just aware of the world, you know what I mean? And aware of there's a lot of people out there that believe in a lot of different things. So who am I to tell them what to believe in? Yeah, right. I mean, they are wrong. Maybe you're thinking about it. She said it. Don't zoom in on me. Are you going to raise your kids to be religious? Like, do you take them to church? Yeah, they go to church a lot with their grandma, for sure. And I like that. You know, church does give structure and discipline to kids and stuff like that.
I don't want them, you know, growing up thinking that their way is the only way and everybody doing the other thing is, you know, they're doomed to go to hell or anything like that. Yeah. But it does bring a lot of like positive intention to your daily pursuits, I think, when you have religion on the mind.
You know what? I agree with that, actually. I went to private Catholic school, which there's a total of two of those in Utah. And I think it did teach me a lot of great things, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's all metaphoric, pretty much. Yeah. Religion. I mean, a lot of those, like Jonah and the whale or, you know what I mean, David and Goliath or this, that, and the other, like a lot of those are metaphors more so than like
This is history and you have to recreate history if you want to be a good person. That's not necessarily the case in my interpretation of it. My interpretation as well. Because what was the Jonah and the whale story even? He got swallowed for some days and then believed enough and got spat back out. I don't know. Some shit like that.
You know what? I'm going to call metaphor on that one. Yeah, yeah. I'm calling metaphor. Because like the enzymes didn't get them. The enzymes couldn't get them. Oh, shit. All the Bible thumpers, super religious people are like, what the fuck? I interpret it as a metaphor. Scientifically. These are the stories. I remember like the cartoons of it. He gets swallowed by the whale. And he's in there and he's praying. And then he's out.
I mean, scientifically, was he swallowed by the whale or was he just hanging out in the whale's mouth? You know, like Finding Nemo and Shark Tale, they just hang out in the mouth. Yes. I don't think it was as specific as that. Okay. All I remember, Jonah, was swallowed by a whale. So, yeah, he was inside the whale, but he was safe enough to contemplate and have his faith tested. So, okay, are you scared of large bodies of water? Scared of them, I guess, yes.
I have a foot thing, so I don't like weird shit on my feet. So if I have my swimsuits on, I'm straight. But if I don't, then I'm like not enjoying myself because I'll just be thinking about what my feet are touching. You know what I'm saying? So you're a water shoe guy. Straight up. I'm going to let that one slide. I have listed that as one of my icks when it comes to people. It's fine. And I'm okay to be judged by it because I get it. But at the same time, yeah, I can't. I can't do it because...
To me it's like, why am I torturing my experience when I can have a better time if I'm not thinking about that type shit. You know what I'm saying? I'd just be down for whatever. - Yeah, and do you wear water shoes or do you just wear whatever shoe?
I wore the water shoe the first time because I was told like, yeah, I don't want to ruin like tennis shoes, I guess. So you've never done it with tennis shoes? Would it be cooler if I just wore tennis shoes? I'm trying to meet in the middle somehow. I feel like if it was just like a pair of tennis shoes, like Nikes or something, like maybe I could like go with it. They're not flattering. They're always like teal. Some of them are like shaped like feet. I'm like, I don't need that one. Those are crazy. Just like, I don't need that. I don't need like a black rubber foot. I just want like a shoe.
Some sort of, I don't know, shoe I can get wet. It's like a shoe sock. Yeah, that'd be fine. Anything except for like my skin on weird shit. Yeah. I would feel, I do feel a level of safety when I've gone snorkeling and I have flippers on. Yeah. For sure. Which is kind of, if you think about it, it's an irrational fear. Well, you just feel faster. Like I have more of a chance to get away. But snorkeling is intense too, man. Like,
I don't know, it just feels intense because you're so outnumbered, like the amount of gallons or fish or whatever. And then when you can really see clearly for the first time, it's like, shit, there's a lot going on around you. You don't you're not even really aware of. So it can be scary. But the more you do it, I'm sure you can let that go. And then swim in big bodies of water where you can be in like one of those amazing pictures with a fucking tiger shark or whatever, like the biggest fucking whale sharks or, you know, I mean, that kind of shit.
Yeah. But yeah, it's going to take me a while before. Before you're doing that? I think so. Without freaking out internally. Yeah. And like big bodies of water, I'm fine because I can swim. You know what I'm saying? It's just like lakes and like...
murky ass like ocean water where you're like up to your waist you know what I'm saying but you're still standing like on sand or algae yeah like seaweed or whatever that's a really good point if I can see this is probably the most obnoxious rich fucking entitled thing to say to say Keaton and I are only done I want to see the bottom of the ocean
Don't invite Keaton or I to go fucking anywhere unless that water is crystal clear, okay? - I need to see it. Like I want to be up to my shoulders and still see my feet. - Yeah, I feel that. - Only Turks and Caicos. Like only.
I have never been. And I know Drake is building a house there. Of course he is. I did DM him asking him about it. He has not gone back to me, but I will keep everyone in the loop. What's up with that? He doesn't hit everybody's DMs back? No, and that's why it was more offensive because I've heard that he will respond to women's DMs. So you got to hit him with like a different. Like famously. He famously responds to DMs.
Okay. We don't need to rub it in. Holy shit. So him not responding to yours. I'm just kidding. Maybe it's what I hit him with. I need to hit him with like a different one liner. It's probably hard to get Drake's attention. Yeah. Yeah. And like a jarring way for him to respond. Without showing a lot or something. Exactly. I was going to say, I think I need to hit him with.
a sexy picture, a nude, or just like a very explicit one-liner instead of, "Hey Drake, I heard you're building a house in Turks and Caicos. I'm going to be going there soon." - We'd love to hear comment about your experience so far. Hit back at Hilarion. - Do you have any recommendations? Imagine if I said that, it wasn't that bad.
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Your cash back really adds up. This has been an incredible conversation thus far. We've gone deep. Yes, life is deep, people. No pun intended. There's no fucking time to be playing games. Life is deep. It is, which is why I want to talk to you about SNL. Well, first, I want to ask you about Good Burger because you're filming Good Burger 2 or you wrapped up? We finished, yeah. How was that? It was awesome. Shout out to Rhode Island. We had a great time shooting up there.
And yeah, I mean, there was a lot of, you know, people that had to come together to get that shit done. But, you know, it was the universe's, you know, the universe's timing. Yes. Like it's nice where you can like,
connect people or whatever, but also like relinquish the kind of feeling of like, well, if everything doesn't go according to plan, then nothing's going to work kind of thing. Yes. You just let things, you know, shape out the way they shake out. But I took all the little green lights as they came, you know what I'm saying? Like the approval of the script.
the buzz from when Kel first posted the, you know, like, we just read the new script kind of thing and everybody was like, oh, shit is coming. Like, that's another thing to remind them that they should make this movie. You know what I mean? And then,
you know, putting the whole thing together, like green light wise for the company itself to green light it and then getting it to a place to shoot it that was convenient for me because like my kids were still in school and it's closer to New York or whatever and stuff like that, you know, like little like W's along the way basically like made it a wonderful, wonderful experience. And then when we got there, I knew it was going to be like fun, you know what I mean? Working with my brother and like,
A million laughs, you know what I'm saying? All day, every day. It was a grind, you know what I'm saying? It was like 12-hour days at least, Monday through Friday type shit. So give Kel his props when you see this movie because he worked really, really hard on it. And I'm a witness. I'm a witness. Do people ever call you Kel and him Kenan? Because that used to happen to me all the fucking time. All the time. All the time. And even when I correct people.
this one dude was the best like just like shouting out in the middle of the night like across an avenue like yo Kel yo Kel it's just like three in the morning I see you son it's like I see you too bro but my name is Keenan yo I'm gonna call you Kel and that was the end of the conversation I was like okay well you know yeah I can't change people's minds just because of the legalities of what my name actually is
And you didn't feel a need to really prove it to this guy that you were keen on. You weren't gonna go show him your ID. - Yeah, when I was younger I'd be like, "Yo, don't disrespect me like that." You know what I'm saying? My parents gave me that name. You know what I'm saying? Don't do that, don't do that. I'm a man out here, respect me. Respect my space in this universe, all that shit. I was tired though. I wasn't gonna get into all of that. - Yeah, you don't need to prove anything to anyone.
You really don't. And unfortunately, there's no book that teaches you that. You just got to come to that enlightenment on your own. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think it has a lot to do with age. The older I get, like the less I give a flying hug. Yeah, you're so confrontational when you're young. I think we waste a lot of energy correcting people when it's like they're either going to get the message or not. But the amount of energy you just wasted trying to send that message to them, you'll never get that back. Yeah. Yeah.
I know. Why are we so reactive when we're younger? Because we can't see big picture. You're also being exposed to a lot of like
- Wait, what? You know what I'm saying? It's like, wait, hold up. Like when you're older, it's like, yeah, I know that already. - True, true. - There's only this and this and this you can do about it. - Yeah, this ain't my first rodeo shit. - Yep. - So you don't get pissed when people call you Kel. - No. - So you have just been on so many iconic shows. All that, Kenan and Kel, SNL, you've been doing that for how many years?
20, but my 20th got cut short by three episodes. Okay. Do you want to tell why or it doesn't matter? Well, the writer's strike happened. See, I am, you know what, well-informed enough to know that, so I totally understand. Well, you didn't know that that was that specific timing. True, thank you. But that was that specific timing. Got it. We went on hiatus for two weeks, and then we were supposed to come back for three, and then that Tuesday...
If they would have done it midnight of that Tuesday, we would have been able to maybe squeeze the week out because that's our writing night. But the deadline was Monday. So we had a meeting with Pete. It was Pete's week to host. So he'll get that back or have to make that up if he wants. I'm sure he wants to. Yeah. But yeah, we had a meeting like our Monday meeting with the host and shit like that. And we're like, hey, if they don't do it, you know, tonight and they give us one more day, then we might be able to squeeze the show out. But.
They stuck to that deadline and then that killed our season. Yeah. Will you be back next season? Yeah. You will. So I read that you were the longest running cast member on SNL. I am so interested in that whole process. It's a good one.
I mean, it's a real machine. I've heard it's really fucking hard and the hours are really crazy and it's a little bit wild. It's all of the above, but for everybody. It's not just like all on the writers or all on the producers or all on the cast. It's on everybody at any given point of the week. So it's heavy on the writers.
lot of the week I think but then I think there's moments where they can relax when other people have to like Start doing that around the clock type shit or whatever like painters, you know the set people They all come in kind of last minute and have to like do overnight shit to have shit ready Editors, you know I'm saying when we shoot shit late on a Friday night Like they have to edit a Star Wars thing or fucking the Mario Brothers whatever type shit, you know, but then I
12 hours of showtime or 12 hours of even dress rehearsal to have it ready for dress rehearsal. Yeah. Sometimes they make it like once they didn't, they didn't have like all the background sets. It was like a green screen in the window kind of shit for dress rehearsal. But then by the live show, they had it done. But yeah, it's a lot of like a lot of work for everybody. Yeah. Have you ever had to like spend the night there?
- Yeah, but that was in the younger days. I mean a lot of people do that on writing night anyway. They'll stay till five, six, seven in the morning 'cause shit gets crazy at 3:00 a.m. and you might get inspired or you might get like crazy minded at 6:00 a.m. just because you're like overly exhausted and super funny shit will start pouring out. It all varies.
Once I was, like, you know, married and having kids, you know, I was trying to get out of there, like, midnight-ish, just so I wasn't just always at work. Because when we have a show, it's a six-day week, you know what I mean? So I'm just, like, gone all the time. Damn, a six-day week? Mm.
And how many hours a day? It varies. Like Monday's not so much. We go in like at like four in the afternoon and we're out by like six or seven or eight. But you can also start writing on Monday if you want to get ahead of shit. So it kind of just depends on you. But Tuesday's a long day because it's the writing night and the deadline is Wednesday morning. That's why some people just spend all night in the office just fucking around. Yeah. Is there a lot of fucking around that goes on?
yeah i would say horsing around there used to be a lot more probably like now it's very like corporate and we have a lot of hr meetings every year like you can do this and do that so like i'm sure it's much tamer than you know it's notoriety but yeah i mean that's i think the clicks that are like around there late at night or whatever i'm sure they're having a good time yeah just running around and like
You got the whole New York. It's your oyster. You know what I'm saying? The middle of the night, midtown. You know what I'm saying? Coming in and out of the building. You don't have to just sit up in the office. You can go running up to fucking Times Square or you can go to Central Park or whatever you want to do. Right. It's just the deadline is Wednesday morning, like 10 or 12 or some shit. And then the table read is at 3 or 4. Yeah. So like Tuesday and Wednesday are longer days. And then 8 or 9 kind of done on Wednesday. And then Thursday...
It's a little easier because it takes time for, like, real sets to show up. So they don't show up until, like, Friday. So Thursday sketches will be, like, you know, any kind of chair situation. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like a news desk or something that's, like, very minimal. But lately, like...
With these pre-taped things, they've been putting a lot of them, at least three into the show each week. And it's hard to do three different pre-tapes with the cast and rehearsal going back and forth in different places. In New York, we used to shoot all over the city. Now it's contained to one studio. But even going back and forth, juggling 20, 18, 19 cast members. On a Friday, it's a lot. So sometimes they'll shoot on Thursday. So that might stretch your Thursday out.
So as you can see, it varies, but all the days are at least six to eight hours, minimal. You know what I mean? So it's like a real commitment. It's like a real job. - Yeah. And you were saying earlier that there were writers. Like your first few years at SNL, there were writers. So you weren't pitching any sketches at that point. - No, I was, I just wasn't successful at it. - Oh. - 'Cause I didn't grow up as a writer. I grew up just as a performer, basically. So I didn't have a writing burden at all.
So like I had my sense of humor, but I didn't know how to like translate that into something that was like worthy of being on SNL in my mind. Especially like I was right because I would pitch some shit and it wouldn't make sense. So I'm like, God damn, that shit made me laugh earlier. Like what the fuck did I say wrong? Or like.
I didn't know how to like set up my whole thought pattern to what made that funny kind of shit. Totally. Being able to take something in your mind that's funny and putting it on paper so that it makes sense for everybody, but you're still, you know, you still have the integrity. It's the worst. Like how many times have you like,
recreate it or try to like retell something that was funny to you like oh my god i saw this thing or whatever and then like halfway through you're like you had to be there or whatever because you realize they're not enjoying it all the time and it's like i'm not telling this right or whatever yeah it's the worst that's why i never start anything with no no you have to hear this you're gonna die no this is your action oh my god you're gonna love this so much
And then I just, I can't, like, I can't do that. Yeah. That's really crazy. I feel like, I don't know if I could take it. Like, how many skits do you think you've had turned down? I have no idea. Like, hundreds. Hundreds.
- You've been doing it for 20 years. - Yeah. - I mean, you've had a lot that have obviously been chosen and picked up. - And we're supposedly responsible for like two a week. Like you're supposed to have your name on at least two a week or some shit like that. So 20 episodes a week, do the math. It's probably been hundreds for sure. - Damn. And when you were first starting out, how were you able to, like would it fuck with your mental? - Yeah.
Very much so, you know, because even if you read the book, like I didn't read the book that supposedly tells you like all the ins and outs of what's happened up to that point or whatever, like all the crazy behind the scenes stories or how much of a pressure cooker it is or who did well with what. I just wanted to have my own experience or whatever. So I didn't read the book. So I was lost for a long time. I didn't know what the fuck was. I knew how to perform when they gave me something to do. You know, I would kill that because that's what I do.
But the rest of that, like creating, it took me a while. Yeah. Yeah, it took me a while. Did you ever think of hiring a ghostwriter? No, because they had writers. You know what I'm saying? So I was trying to impress the writers or find somebody that I could work with. Luckily, Brian Tucker showed up early and long in the process. And we would write together because he has a similar sense of humor. But I also shared an office with Colin for years and years. And that taught me a lot, too.
And it just taught me that they just have a knowledge that I wasn't aware of. Not that I couldn't do it. You know what I'm saying? Yes. I didn't go to creative writing classes or I didn't write for the Lampoon or whatever the fuck. They all fucking used to write for the Lampoon. Yeah, all those Harvard guys. Because that's, you know, the Harvard paper or whatever. But if you went to Yale, you probably wrote for whatever. The Onion, I don't know how I got it. Yeah.
But the lampoon, I dated a guy that went to Harvard. That was a brag, everyone, by the way. Yeah.
And he took me back to his school to see it, to check it out. Yeah. And we went to, I don't know what the fuck you call it, the Lampoon headquarters. Yeah, the little castle. Oh, yeah, the little castle. Yeah. And I went in there and I was snapping pictures left and right. Oh, you're not supposed to do that? I mean, I wasn't going to like leak it. Right. You know, I just was like, oh my God, this is his...
This is like his history, this is cool. I got in a lot of fucking trouble. - For taking pictures? - Like hand the phone over, we're going through and deleting it. - Hilarious, hilarious. - That shit is not a fucking joke. - It's not a joke, but it is a joke because they don't want the pictures to leak that it ain't that impressive. It's just fucking, it looks like a small medieval times in there. - And it's so messy. - Yeah, it's just like-- - Like it's so fucking messy, but-- - What is this, Game of Thrones?
It is a little bit bizarre. Yeah, I feel like the Lampoon is just like the breeding ground for comedy and comedy writers. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely the creative writing tools you need to do well in a sketch writing environment or comedy writing environment. Like, I don't front on it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't front on the organization at all or the skills because they're highly skilled. And I'm like,
Colin came in killing. Most of the presidents of the Lampoon hit the ground running. I remember when Zach and Tim actually connected on the show. Tim Robinson, who's got a show on Netflix or whatever, but
Tim was one of the greatest, you know, comedic minds we've had in a long time. And then Zach was like the president of the Lampoon after Colin. And he came into the show and then they connected because Zach was such a strong writer and Tim was such a strong performer and idea man. And they kind of like blended perfectly. And they're still like, you know, vibing to this day. Like they work together on everything.
I believe Detroiters and his other show, you know, on Netflix, I Think You Should Leave Now. You know what I mean? They're just a team. And it was cool to, like, watch a team form that is, like, at such a high level now. You know what I mean? It's like watching your kids grow up. Totally. Save on Cox Internet when you add Cox Mobile and get fiber-powered internet at home and unbeatable 5G reliability on the go. So whether you're playing a game at home... Yes, cool! ...or attending one live...
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Have you ever partnered with a writer and you guys would do a lot of content together and then they would get annoyed that you got all the clout? I don't know about the annoyed side of it. I would have to assume that there has to be some sort of being irked by if anybody's overlooking anything.
and trying to give me the praise for something that wasn't my idea. You know what I mean? I never want to do that. Like, I take my credits, you know what I mean? Because, like, I'm proud of them. But I also, I'm like, I only collaborate with writers. You know what I'm saying? Like, I have an idea, but it won't be shit without the writer, like, spelling it out for you. Like, you know, my first one was Scared Straight. And that's a prime example because, you know, I took it to Colin because we were sharing an office and, like, he was right behind me. So I was like...
One of those conversations, like, what are you working on this week kind of thing. I had this idea, like, have you ever seen Scared Straight before? And he had never seen it. And I was like, really? Like the 70s joints? Like where they were really cursing at these little kids? He's like, never saw it. So I showed it to him and it was just like enlightening the mind of a child. You know, like watching his eyes just light up. Like that shit was hilarious. I can't believe this happened. This was on TV. You know what I mean? They allowed these things to happen, blah, blah, blah.
So I was like, I want to do this where I'm like yelling at a bunch of kids. And he was like, he brought forward the me teaching kids through like 80s plot movies or 80s movies plots. Got it. And that's what made that shit special or whatever. So like my loud high performance or whatever. But there's genius underneath in the dialogue. You know what I'm saying? And the fact that we're using plot lines from 80s movies like that shit was like.
- Perfect. - Yeah. - And it takes a writer to do that or someone with a writing history basically to know that shit needs layers basically. - Yeah, when you refer to Colin, are you talking about Colin Firth? Is that his last name? - Colin Firth? Colin Firth was never a writer on SNL. - Okay, I was like wait, I'm pretty sure that this would have been-- - But no, I'm talking about Colin Jost to clarify. - Colin Jost. Okay, and do you guys still work on things together?
Yeah, I mean, but he'll just write it and be like, I wrote this thing or whatever, and you're doing this and that and the other, blah, blah, blah. Because we haven't shared an office in a long time, but we shared an office for like eight years. So between like Colin Tucker, Brian Tucker, Che, and like I want to say Seth Meyers, you know, those are like the super duper like big brains that like gifted me a lot of sketches. And then, you know, James Anderson was like,
I'm just shouting out names that I guess the audience will know or pass along. But James was like the first one that I was really like, you know, getting sketches on with basically because we just would have a good time and I would make him laugh and he wouldn't want to write for me. Yeah, I, for some reason, always thought it was...
you write your own sketch? If you have that skill, yeah. I mean a lot of people like Mikey Day, you know, is a strong writer. So he, you know, writes for himself. He writes for other people. He came in as a writer kind of thing. You know, Sudeikis came in as a writer. So when he was like a cast member, he wrote for himself like it was nothing. You know what I'm saying? He worked with others, but he could depend on himself to write for himself. You know what I'm saying? Like me,
my ideas kind of go left and right and make no sense you know what I mean by the time page 10 is happening so yeah do people try to like snuggle up or butter up the really good writers I'm sure they're smart you know I mean you want to impress the people that can help you get to the next level yeah like hopefully not in a disingenuine fashion you know what I mean but like
People do start clicking up and then you, you know, if you're going to be in the clique, you got to like abide by the clique. So if the clique is having brunch, you don't want to miss the brunch because then they're like, where are you at? You ain't really down with the clique. A hundred percent. It's like politics. That's how life works. What's your most favorite sketch that you've done? I mean, I guess,
What's up with that usually? That's my favorite. Concept wise. My ultimate sketch that I was ever a part of had to be fucking Black Jeopardy with Chadwick. That was the biggest moment and the most iconic, I think, ever. And Tom Hanks was the week before kind of thing. That was huge. Or anytime Dave Chappelle comes through, that was huge. Eddie Murphy hosted. You know what I mean? Yeah.
that I was personally a part of, like directly, yeah. That Black Jeopardy with Chadwick was epic. - Yeah, we were supposed to record last week and I ended up sitting there watching, Amir actually was showing me the Black Jeopardy sketches and I was dying. - Good, I'm glad. - That shit is so fucking funny, but what's up with that has always been,
My favorite one. That's the one that shook the world up. You know what I mean? It did? Yeah, I think so. That was the one that solidified me as a real voice in the chapters of SNL as opposed to one of the actors that's come through there and had one or two things kind of go well. What's up with that permeated the world? You know what I mean? When I heard people saying that they were singing it while they were decorating the Christmas trees with their family, that's when I knew it was like, oh, that shit's
it's out there like all the way out there and accepted by pretty much everybody do you get annoyed when people I actually wanted to start the show like this and then I was like I'm not going to do that do you ever get annoyed when people walk up to you and just scream one of the catchphrases yeah only because it
It slightly dehumanizes me. You know what I mean? Like, I'm a human outside of my work. Yes. So, like, when you're treating me like I'm a television persona or whatever, you're kind of canceling out my real existence. You know what I mean? And, like, people ain't thinking that when they do that. You know what I mean? So I had to let that go just in my own understanding of what people do to people when they see them. And, you know, like, I do the same thing. Like, I saw Esai Morales. You know what I'm saying? And if you know who he is...
then you know that that's a deep cut in a love for actors, basically. He's an actor's actor. Goes all the way back to La Bamba days and before kind of shit. You know what I mean? And I hit him with some shit, you know what I mean? From Ozarks or something. And they're always just like, yeah, thank you. Because I'm sure they hear it a million times, but you just can't help yourself. So when people do it to me, I try to think about that as opposed to like,
I'm a human being and you're not treating me like such. You know what I'm saying? Because this is real life. This isn't television type shit. Like nobody wants to hear that shit. No. Well, and also I'm sure you feel this way. Maybe you can let me know. Then you feel like you have to play that character. Like kind of makes for an awkward thing. Yeah. I don't do the like song and dance thing.
as far as like this is gonna be awkward if I don't do this whole thing that they're expecting I just let shit just be real and people you know appreciate that just as much so I'm like yeah let's just keep it real I'm not gonna be just tap dancing for you know any person that happens to maybe recognize me if I want to take a walk you know I'm saying like if I want to take a walk
I don't want to have to just perform for the people just because, you know what I'm saying? I would much rather like give you that high five, treat you like a person, you know what I'm saying? Whatever toast.
any of that kind of good shit, but like, you know, all that performing just for the sake of you'll never see me again and that was your favorite thing is highly unfair. You know what I mean? Yeah. Nobody wants to live their life like that. It's like asking Lady Gaga to sing for you every time you see her or something. Like, if people did that to her, she would never be able to go nowhere. Yeah. I remember one time I was at a tanning salon and
And these people listen to the show and they asked me to say the intro in the same voice that I do it in so that they could record it. And I did it because that's just the type of person I am. I'm like, whatever you need, come home with me, have a sleepover. Like, that's just what I do. But yeah.
That I didn't love that. Yeah, you don't love it because you also don't want to be like no you don't say no You don't want to say no and you're not a puppet but at the same time I remember a really like super awkward interaction with somebody because I was on that page of like No, I'm a human like I'm not a fucking jukebox, you know, they were like tell me a joke type shit and like that's I
One of my biggest pet peeves is because I'm an actor. I'm not a stand-up comedian. I do a lot of comedy and shit, but I'm an actor. I grew up being an actor type shit, so I don't have jokes on deck. So it makes me feel bad because I don't have a joke on deck, and then they're just shitting on me because I don't have a joke on deck because I'm not a fucking joke teller. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, that shit's not fair. So I had to get into the mindset of like,
Have one joke ready then you know I'm saying if you know people are gonna be asking you that shit you like either be like nah I'm cool or have a joke ready, but I was young so I
this dude was like doing that to me. He was like, yo, tell me a joke. You know what I'm saying? Tell me something funny right now, funny man. And he was showing me love. You know what I'm saying? He was like, yo, I love you. You know what I'm saying? Like, tell me a joke. And that's when it got awkward because I was like, I ain't got no jokes. You know what I'm saying? He's like, you ain't got no jokes. I'm like, what the fuck? I look like a jukebox and that motherfucker face.
went from this is kind of fun to like mad serious in a half a second. And it just got super awkward and it didn't need to be that. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. There's no book for that. Yeah. I was just being like, I'm a person. I'm an actor. But ain't nobody trying to hear all that explanation type shit. You know what I'm saying? Because it's hard enough on people
to just get a job, number one, let alone you explaining why you don't want to do the thing that they know you for doing type shit. It's just too much for people to process. Yeah. I mean, if you start over explaining, I mean, it's not an over explanation, but when you start getting into those waters, it's like, it's unfun. Like now this is unfun. Exactly. So yeah, I had to learn that. You're like, the thing is, here's the thing. Like the way my, my accounts is set up,
I got a transfer for my check into my savings. Right. What stand up was that from? Was it Kevin Hart? That shit was so funny. Brilliant.
Thank you.
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Who's been like your favorite host or your least favorite? But I'm not going to make you say that. Favorites are tough because it's been so many and so many excellent ones. But like those people I just named are the ones that come to mind. Like forget about any SNL cast alumni. They're always gems. And like that's a cakewalk of a week because, you know, they know how to do the show and
99.9% of them are great people. You know what I mean? And I've grown close to anybody that I've worked with from day one. So like all my sisters in comedy, you know what I mean, that are usually the ones that end up hosting, you know, I love them all and they're all great. But the ones that were like dynamic for me personally, like yeah, was Annie Murphy hosted. That was crazy. Sandler was crazy. Dave, Tom Hanks, Chadwick. Yeah. I mean, Lizzo killed it. You know what I'm saying? Like,
There's a lot. Yeah. It's hard to pick a favorite. Those are, and you've been doing it for 20 years. You're like, bitch, how am I supposed to pick a favorite person? I mean, Jack Black was my first show, and he's one of my favorite people in the world. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Were you shitting your pants your first one? Ish. I was still very, like, confused, and I wasn't really taking it that seriously, but I was very nervous because...
I only had like two things to do, like something in the monologue with Jack where it's just like a hallway thing. It's like, these are new guys. I don't care. You know what I mean? So that was nothing. But I had this like Bill Cosby like update piece that I wanted to go well because it was like my first moment on the show, kind of like real moment. So that was stressful. Did you kill it? I killed it. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. And also you're doing it in front of a live audience. Yeah.
Live audience twice and the entire crew that's been there for years and they've seen this person and that person come through there and destroy it. And then everybody else that's gonna be watching it too. So yeah, you try to put all that shit aside and just focus on your scene partner or your job at hand basically.
Luckily, those faces just turn into shapes and you don't really see the specifics of the actual eyeballs because once you start focusing on that, that's an easy distraction and then you'll fuck it up. What do you do if you fuck up? You remember Ashley Simpson when-
- I did the same kind of thing. - I was gonna ask you. - I didn't dance off camera, but I remember one of my first friends that was a writer was this guy T. Shawn Shannon, and he wrote a lot for Tracy.
And Tracy was like, yo, this is my dark horse. You know what I'm saying? You want to get some comedy? Let's go motherfucking like lift up some skirts. T. Sean, that's my dark horse. I'm saying that a lot. Shout out to my brother, Tracy. Tracy Morgan. That is. I feel like I have to be specific with you. The fact that I said Colin Firth, the actor, not Colin. I like I want to be hilarious. Colin, if you're president speech is a good. It's a great movie. Mm hmm. Anyway.
I literally didn't even know what I said until you were like, have you watched it? I was like, what are you talking about? That shit was funny. Colin Firth would kill it on SNL, though. He did kill. He hosted it. Oh, he's been? Yeah, he was great. I haven't seen every episode ever made of SNL. It was a while ago. I think it was the King's Speech, actually, when he hosted back then. Okay. So both of them. Both Collins and...
Yeah, but T. Sean wrote me a sketch in my first year where I was. It was called Randy the Bellhop, where I was like a bellhop that was just fucking up the, like, let me get you to your room. The thermostat is over here. You want me to set it on 97? It's like, no, nobody wants 97 degrees. Like little shit like that. Can we get some ice? It's like, sure you can. And then just stand there. It's like, oh, you want me to get it?
But I had this line that I flubbed, you know what I mean? Like my tongue got tied or whatever. And then I didn't ad lib out of it. Like I didn't react to it. I just like kind of let it sit there. Like I failed kind of thing. And it was quiet in the studio. It was so quiet. And all I heard was this one lady go, aww.
- Stop in the audience? - In the audience. And it was like, yeah, 'cause I just like fucked that up. It was like, blah, blah, blah. And didn't like acknowledge that as a comedian and like, oh, wasn't that awkward? And then like move on or something. - Yeah. - But I didn't, I was learning basically. So I just was like, shit, I fucked up and froze.
And the sketch got cut and that was like the last time T-Shant wrote for me. But we were still friends and we were still cool. No way. If you fuck up, continue. Don't be so out of it that you're not present for what just happened. And that's what makes live television so special. The audience really appreciates that. You know what I'm saying? Totally. Your knowledge what just happened. Totally. Because I mean, there are no other alternatives.
The only alternative is to sit there and look like a fucking idiot like I was. Like, just shit in your pants, basically. Or hope that one of the cast members will, like, keep talking or come in and say some shit. Or anybody. You know what I mean? But, like, I think the sketch was so me-heavy that nobody really cared. You know what I mean? They were just like, I don't know why I'm here. Like, I don't really have anything funny to do or say. I'm kind of just supporting this new character venture. Yeah. Yeah. It was just like a...
It was a fuck up, but it was a learning situation. Did you say after you fucked up, were you like, I fucked up and then you were silent? Or you just said it and then you were just silent? I just flubbed it and was silent. Like a little kid.
I mean, shout out to the lady in the crowd. She probably got things. Very sympathetic, by the way. That was very sweet of her. And it probably got some laughs, right? Or were you like, I'm going to, at least you ever ran off the stage. I didn't run off, but I definitely like bulldozed the rest of the dialogue. It's like, so here's your thing. Turn on the music, dance, kind of like, y'all like that? All right, bye. And then just ran backstage and.
was throwing shit probably just heated knowing that it was gonna get cut and i think it was early in the show so i had to wait on the rest of the show and then the meeting in between to find out if it was cut or not i knew it was cut and then like to see the board and like walk into lauren's office and see that shit in the column where it should is cut it's like man and that is never a pleasant experience no when your sketch is in that column where it's cut
It's a rough emotional thing, you know what I mean? And it's hard to come back with a positive attitude and do the show. Like you still have a show to do after you're taking on all that kind of like, you know, judgment, if you will. Yeah. Self-loathing, like I am not meant to be here shit. Yeah, it's tough not to spiral into that. Yeah.
Yeah. What do you think is harder? An answer correctly, please. Podcasting or SNL doing a live sketch. The fact that you're even thinking about it, I feel so much better about my life. Yeah. Are you thinking about it nicely? I'm trying to think about how to be nice. Yeah. There's nothing like live television. You know, the same way there's nothing like a big giant movie. They're all very different.
or doing stand-up for the first time or doing a stand-up special. You know what I mean? Like those kinds of pressure moments, I would say they're all kind of similar. Like if talking to people makes you uncomfortable and you have to do it in this forum, you know, it's probably, you know, just as nerve-wracking as anything else. It's hard to put, you know, what bothers people in different brackets because you're kind of
Everything's valid. You know, I mean, how you feel about things is valid. Those are your fears. Like I have a fear of bees. You may call it irrational, but it's my fear. You know what I'm saying? If a bee came in here right now, it'd be a problem. So SNL to me is much easier. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, if podcasting makes you nervous or like having a bunch of cameras and shit makes you nervous, then that's something to overcome. So yeah.
You know, it's all kind of relevant. That's interesting to me. So you think it's something to overcome because, you know, a lot of people would say if it doesn't come natural to you, naturally to you, then it's not for you. I mean, I don't know about that necessarily, but anything that makes you uncomfortable that you still have to do, it's a feat when it's done at the end of the day. And that's all natural.
SNL is that's all you know fucking a baseball game is or basketball you know what I mean it's totally something that you build your nerves up for and you overcome it yeah basically yeah there's different levels of it I guess but yeah it's hard to compare the two because SNL seemingly is so much harder than just sitting on the couch and discussing but I don't really know
you know, where your mentals are as far as like how you experience this. Like if it could terrify you. I'm having an internal panic attack. Right. That's that's your journey. No, but I totally got that. I was going to ask you if you could put in the word for me to go on SNL. You want to be on Broadway? Yeah, that's what you need to be.
Bitch, absolutely not. Okay, Keenan, I'm going to ask you some rapid fire questions. Okay. The first one, Elon Musk, what did he smell like? I want to remember sweaty. I remember like he was always like huffing and puffing-ish. So like outside kind of like soiledness. What an excellent fucking answer. Have you seen Pete Davidson's penis and or do people ask you that question all the time?
Neither. They don't ask me the question because they know the answer supposedly from the rumors or whatever. And no, I haven't seen it. Okay. Were you ever starstruck during your time on SNL? Yeah, all the time. Constantly. Right. You have the biggest people like Colin Firth. Colin Firth. When Colin Firth walks through the door, it is like motherfuckers get out of the way. Like fucking Moses just came up in here. Yeah.
But SNL is a special place because there will be special people that aren't just in front of the camera. Like, such and such will have, like, maybe a wardrobe person or a stylist that's like, oh, shit, like, you're working with this person, you know what I'm saying? And now you have, like, a chance to be around whoever, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like Virgil might have been around when Kanye was around type thing, you know what I'm saying? So, like, if you're aware of that, you would have had a moment with Virgil, you know what I'm saying, in his time type shit. So, like, that's why that place is special because it's a lot of different people
Well, it's every aspect of the community to build towards the greatest outcome for that one specific individual's week, basically. So whoever they know, whoever they've reached out to to help them, it could be anybody, you know, so. SNL will do sketches based on things that are happening culturally, politically, culturally.
And are you the person that people run to if they want to do a sketch on anything that has to do with racial pretenses? Like, are they like, oh. As a performer, like, I'm more so likely going to be in any sketch that has anything to do with the Black Zeitgeist for sure. Because I think I've just...
I'm a reliable source for laughs, and it's on the writers to provide me with those tools to get those laughs, I guess. You know what I'm saying? But a lot of the time,
I get laughs just, you know, saying shit in general. You know what I mean? So, like... Yeah. It's advantageous, I think, for writers to utilize me. Mm-hmm. As far as my opinions and shit on things, like, it don't really be a whole lot of funny with my opinion on, like, racial issues because a lot of them are very dire and serious. You know what I'm saying? Of course. So, I'm not the person to...
harvest humor out of those things necessarily. But if they have figured it out, like Michael Che is brilliant at that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Then, you know, he gives me the dialogue and I take and do what I do with it. You know what I mean? Like he has a brilliant way of
humorizing, you know, very serious kind of, you know, underlying issues. Right. Totally. Okay. I have 700 million other things I want to ask you, but I can't keep you here forever. Keenan, this was absolutely amazing. It was very amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for listening to my long-winded answers. I have a tendency to ramble, so. Honestly, every single response was, you're extremely deep.
Yeah, I've lived a life. Yeah, I've lived a life. Besides Good Burger, too, where and Instagram, he won't be posting a shit ton of stories, but he'll be on there looking from time to time. And it's all promo content. Your favorite. Yeah. And our podcast, you already know, you know what I'm saying? Our production company, AFA, Artist for Artist. We're all about, you know, supporting the artist community, bringing everybody together.
that was the one thing i kind of enjoyed about the academy awards this year it was a real solid reflection on the appreciation of every aspect of the industry like even down to the commercials were about like a seamstress you know what i'm saying or something like that so like that last one was was solid and you know that's what i like to celebrate because it it does take a lot of people
to put out this content, you know what I mean? Like even right now, it's not just us, you know, sitting here or whatever. - Yeah, as you were saying that, I was literally thinking to myself, how often do I give my team credit and shout them out? So I'm gonna do right now.
Maddie, Kiana, Delaney, Alec. Now I'm going to miss someone and now it's just going to hit the fan. That's all right. You guys are amazing. You'll catch the next one. Yeah. I'll just, I'll fucking re-record and throw it in. They'll never know. But yeah, applause on everybody's teams. You know what I mean? Yeah. Anybody that's working for the greater good. Totally. Totally.
Yeah, I've always, you know what? I'm actually going to stop myself talking. No, I'm not. With films, the screenwriter even, they never, no one's like, oh, who fucking wrote this movie? Yeah, it's always at the Oscars. It's not just like every movie that comes out and is like, oh, by the way, this was written by the brilliant such and such. You know what I mean? So there should be more of that, you know, and it should be louder, definitely, because it's
Man, I watched the last Guardians of the Galaxy. Those credits went on for fucking ever. Forever. Yeah. And it was more people than like has been in any Marvel movie like cast or directors or producers. It was all like engineers and like computer people but like
It was like tens of thousands of people, it seemed like. That shit's crazy. Yeah, I'm sure it was tens of thousands of people. Straight up. So I'm like, who's getting paid how exactly? Yeah. I love that you made a point of that. I think that's really important. It is. So many people go into making something. Directors ain't shit. Just kidding. You guys are amazing. We all need each other. Everybody's got different talents. You know what I mean? Like LeBron can't win by himself.
No, he cannot. No, he cannot. Keenan, thank you so much. Thank you so much, man. And good luck on your new ventures. Yeah. It's cool that you have had a learning experience and are still going. So that's what's up. It was a big learning experience. I'll see you at SNL. Come through. Remember when Keenan told me that I'll never make it there? Just kidding. That's not what he said. She proved me wrong, folks. So enjoy this next sketch. That's so funny. Sophia with an F. Yes. Okay. Thanks, everybody. Bye-bye.
