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- It's Sophia Franklin. You are listening to Sophia with an F and the F is for phenomenal. This podcast is rated F. - Never going in the gym. And before you brought up the personal trainer piece, I've had personal trainers. It doesn't matter. Can't do it. I can't get behind the gym. I just can't do it. And running, Josh, what are you running from? Runners run from things.
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Hi everybody, welcome to Sophia with an F. If you haven't already, hit that subscribe button. I have two very, very special guests with me. One in person, one is actually in New York because we are in LA on a Zoom call, Ben? Yeah, I'm essentially like your outsourced IT. Like think of me in like India, like you needed something, your computer crashed, I'm here for you.
Yeah, Ben is just here to make sure everything runs smoothly, but I've got Josh Peck here and Ben Soffer. Is it Stoffer or Soffer? Soffer. There is no T. Okay. I always want to put a T there. I don't know why. Like Stouffer. Mm-hmm. I wish. God, I wouldn't be doing this podcast if I was a Stouffer.
100%. Thank you so much for coming on, you guys. Yes. And thank you for coming on ours. Thank you. The Good Guys is such an interesting name to me. Where did you guys get that name?
We kind of danced around. There were a bunch of options, right, Ben? Yeah, we danced around a bunch of names, and ultimately we just looked at each other and we're like, if anything's going to sum up the two of us, it's that we're just good. We are just good guys. We spoke about this a lot on our podcast earlier, which everybody should listen to because Sophia was amazing and we had a great time. But we are like...
just good wholesome married nice funny Jewish men so we're good like we're not great right like we're not like amazing we're good working on great we're trying we're trying to get to great so it felt like a realistic standard for us we're we're the good guys you can trust us come listen to our podcast become a part of our community we're safe we're good
But not excellent guys. No way. Not even close. Just good guys, though. No. Not bad. Well, how can you tell if a guy is a bad guy? Ooh. Wears too much leather. Wears too much leather. A chain on his wallet. Ooh, that is such a good one. Yeah. Ooh, the chain on the wallet. And does it hook onto the pants? It should. And it did serve a purpose. Yeah.
If you had a motorcycle 40 years ago, but probably less now when you're driving a Prius. Honestly, like a heavy key chain is probably a red flag, like something with like 50 to 60 keys. Like, I think that's probably not a good guy. Right. Someone who's not cool to a waiter. Yes. Great one. And what's considered too much leather? Like, when is it too much? Yeah.
I think leather pants in collaboration with a leather jacket in collaboration with slick back hair, like really heavy, slick.
I don't know, it just seems like too much to me. - I'll tell you what's a big turnoff for me with men is when they really wanna tell me what they're working on. - Ooh. - I don't give a fuck. And it's probably something to do with crypto or some weird like scheme of yours. - Right, crypto, automatically not a good guy.
Crypto is a tough, it's a tough one. More will be revealed, but right now Coinbase is being sued by the SEC. Okay.
I feel like that struck a chord when I said the crypto thing. I was just going to say, Josh, are you like a massive crypto investor? Are you Sam Basing-Fried? Zero. I have zero. I've never, I don't understand what a wallet is. I don't know how to do it. It all seems like the dark arts. But yeah, I mean, I guess we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll be eating my words, right? Probably not. You won't be. You won't be. You won't be eating your words. You won't. Okay, good. And how did you guys meet?
Ben, put some money in my pocket. That's how. I did. In a past life, I ran influencer marketing companies. And one of the companies that, or one of my clients was somebody that fit perfectly with Josh. And I DMed Josh. And I don't know if I should say the company by name, which is why I had a weird stutter. But I guess I could just say Little Caesars.
You've said it before. I have said it before. Little Caesars? Yeah, Little Caesars. Now they have a new pretzel crust thing? Pizza, pizza. Come see me, Little Caesars. Let's re-up. I want to try that pretzel crust pizza you got. And by the way, now that I'm no longer a client on that side, maybe I can become a client on that side. So you know what? Little Caesars for all of us. Let's all manifest these great brand campaigns. But I thought Josh would be perfect for it. I slid into his DMs. I said, let's chat and...
That's kind of how it happened. We were corresponding because we had mutual friends. You're right. You're right. We had some people. We had some contact before that, maybe. But that was the real moment where Josh was like, okay, you know, I should probably pay attention to this schmuck that's lining my pockets. And then he thanked me with a lovely gift card to Mastro's. And if you haven't had their butter cake, you should certainly go and get it. And then four years later, we're like, we should probably start a podcast. Yeah.
So basically, Ben reached out to you to do an ad for Little Caesars. Am I understanding that correctly? When you say it like that, it sounds so minimal. No, that's, I mean, Little Caesars are huge. No, it's great.
I was so honored to be working for number three in the four biggest fast pizza companies. There goes the sponsorship, just like that.
I have never heard any pizza company sponsoring a podcast, actually. Me either. They really need to look into that. Ben, maybe you should reach out to your old colleagues and let them know. I could. I could do that. I could. So what did you do in this ad? I'm so interested now. It was nice because it was a photo. So it was like...
I literally, I remember they sent this gigantic cardboard chair made of Little Caesar pizza boxes. And it was something around the Super Bowl. So I had to like have a football and look butch and eat the pizza. And it was great. I went to my local Little Caesars, which if you haven't been...
This free ads for Little Caesars is upsetting me. Little Caesars with a C, you better start promoting on Sophia with an F. I'm going to bleep it out and I'm going to just send the episode to them and be like, do you want to get behind this or what are we doing? What an idea. Oh my God. I've never even thought about that. Josh, we should start doing that on Good Guys. When we mention a brand too much, like Zyrtec or Crestor, we should send it to them. Yes. See if they want to sponsor it.
and only then release it wow yes what an idea you know i just re-upped i'm a i'm a high cholesterol king and i just re-upped my crest store medicine for 90 days i don't mean to brag and i got a bill for 11 now baruch hashem i have good insurance and i know i'm very lucky to have that but 11 bucks and i saw what what the full charge was was which was like 30 dollars
I was like, how is Crestor making any money? I'm worried about big pharma is what I'm saying. Right. I just want to make sure they're making their fair share. I love how it went from the high cholesterol and then all of a sudden it just like ended with big pharma. Yeah. You're welcome. That story just took a turn. But so you're self-proclaimed high cholesterol king. Yes. So what does that mean?
I have genetic high cholesterol. I can't get away from it. Okay. I live good. Okay. I don't drink. I don't do drugs. Right. I run. Mm-hmm. I wear these kinds of shoes, supportive. Are we both wearing new balances? Okay, they're also getting this episode sent to them. Love that. And yet I can't lick it. And every time I go, it's creeping up.
So at 36, the doc was like, we might want to think about it. So I'm on the pills. Okay. Well, doctors know best. So, but, but it sounds like everything else is going amazing. Yeah. Great. So you are sober. I am. Okay. Love that. And you like to run a lot. Is the runner's high thing a real thing?
Yeah, it's excellent. Really? It's really, you know what's cool? And you tell me, I feel like, I like running because I feel like it's hard.
and that most people can't do it. - True, true. - And it freaks people out. I remember when I was younger and I was working on getting in shape, I could never do a pull-up or a push-up in my entire life. And when I started getting good at those, 'cause I'll watch people on some crazy Equinox fancy weightlifting machine, and I'm like, you can't pull yourself up above the bar.
And I like to make shitty things doable and do them so much that they're less shitty. Okay. Yeah. You like to do shitty things and make them doable? Yeah, like find the torture you're comfortable with. Okay, got it, got it. And running, see, I'm not a runner. What's your workout? I do have a personal trainer that I work out with twice a week over Zoom. So similar to this, Ben. Okay.
And he has completely just transformed my life, right? Because working out was always, I would do it for, I don't know, two weeks tops. And then I would fall off the wagon. With my trainer, though, I've been consistently doing it for over a year. Wow. And are you doing it at home? Yes. So you have like weights and a yoga mat, perhaps? I have a yoga mat. I have two resistance bands. And I have a pair of eight pound weights.
It's pretty fabulous. I do have a humongous gym just a few floors down in my apartment building because I do have great amenities that I don't go to for whatever reason. Okay, we talked about this earlier and I have some follow-ups. Are you renting or do you own? Renting. So the overall price is rolled into your rent? Yes. Which I'm guessing ain't cheap. No, no. So...
Because I really believe, I love an amenity. And I remember I grew up in New York and we lived in a two bedroom apartment. Or I'm sorry, we lived in a 500 square foot apartment that we made two bedrooms out of. Bedrooms without windows. Okay. So when I moved to LA, I was 14. And we moved into an apartment complex. It was seedy as shit. But it was a two bedroom apartment that was $1,800 a month. We had a racquetball court, a pool. Oh.
security guard, Monday night dinners. And I was like, I'll never move. I didn't move till I was 29. You lived with your parents until you were 29? No, I got my mom an apartment when I was 18. I was like, whoa, okay. I stayed in the apartment. I literally tried to convince my wife. I was like, you know, we could just stay here. She was like, I'll die. And would you use up all the amenities? Let's go to the pool. Let's do this. Like it was mine. Right.
really like if i went to the gym and there were too many people here i was like this is unacceptable like but it was the best wow see i have a pool i've never ever stepped foot in it not once wow that's the problem with amenity buildings and that's actually why i despise them because you never know how much of that they're putting into your rent josh you pointed it out
And that's why I live in a beautiful, perfect, non-amenity building. The only amenities I need are...
Dorman, essential, essential amenity. I guess you could call that, or is that a luxury? That's not really an amenity, right? Dorman, super, but the pool, nope, never going in the pool. Never going in the pool. The gym, to your point, never going in the gym. And before you brought up the personal trainer piece, I've had personal trainers, doesn't matter, can't do it. I can't get behind the gym, I just can't do it. And running, Josh, what are you running from? What?
Runners run from things and it's fine. I'm just saying like it's therapy. It's a good thing. It is. It's therapy. I live by the beach and my kids go to bed at 6:30 and 8:00. And once that's done, last night, I kid you not, I got on my sneakers and 8:30 at night. I ran from 8:30 to 10:00. You want to see my steps? 8:30. I actually do. See, I'm into this kind of thing. The steps for sure.
Do you just track it on your phone? I do. I should wear like a Apple Watch or something, but I don't. That's a lot. 14 miles. That's really crazy. 26,000 is a lot. But Josh, I just want to let you know that I walk an average of 9,100 a day and I don't have any scheduled runs. That's pretty good. That is. That's incredible. Wait, I want to look at mine now because I think it's going to be very, very scary. Health and or fitness app on the iPhone.
Oh, can I just go to this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. Let's see. Resting energy. 900... How is that possible? 972 steps today? That's it? It's days not done. That's true, but that's alarming. And then on average, I'm doing 3,082 steps. Not bad.
But how is it? Josh, you don't have to lie to me. And yet you look so much better than Ben and I. So what are we talking about? Facts. Facts. So clearly it has nothing to do with running. It has everything to do with genetics. So I blame my parents. It is what it is. Well, the thing is, I've heard the whole 10,000 steps a day thing. Because remember, that was a whole thing. Yeah. And then I got obsessed with it. And I was like, oh my God, we got to hit 10,000 steps. Obviously not that obsessed. Yeah.
Obviously it wasn't that influential, but then I heard it was like just a scam. Like it wasn't like the science behind it was not even accurate. I think it's a scam as much as remember celery juice is hot and people are like, it's magical. It's like a miracle thing. It's like, no, it's not. You're just hydrating in the morning and there's probably, it probably has like a diuretic function. So it's kind of making you regular. Right. Like,
So that all tracks, but it's not magic. Yeah. You're consuming a vegetable every day, right? With a lot of water in it, which most people aren't getting enough water. Yes. I totally agree with that. But I don't know. The 10,000 steps thing was soul crushing to me. Speaking of, how many people do you know on Ozembic?
Okay. They have not told me, but I just know. You know what I mean? That's right. Actually, I do know. So I have a few friends that have told me, but I would say I know about like eight people, I would say. Right now, currently. And how many people do you know on Crest Store? Just me? I'm like, yeah, you're actually the first one. Okay.
She's like, my grandpa. Have you guys seen the documentary Fantastic Fungi on Netflix? Yes. No. Josh, if you haven't seen it, you should watch it. It's not all about, it's really not about psychedelics. Like some of it is. But I bring it up because there are two very interesting mushrooms that I am going to start taking. And I'm going to let you guys know how they are. They're not magic mushrooms. They're regular. One is called Lion's Mane. Have you heard of Lion's Mane? I took it today.
Oh, okay. What do you think of it? I'm a big lion's mane guy. Cognitive mushrooms, chaga, cordyceps. Love it. Believe in it. I'm in. Great. So the other one was cordyceps. I ordered both of them. So you endorse my usage of these paloalto.
powerful fungi. Yeah, shout out my friend's company, Four Sigmatic, who are like the first people in the space. What the hell? You have a friend's company? I paid out of pocket for that shit. You should know better. Hit me up. I got connections all over the place. I didn't even know. I paid $79.99 plus shipping from Australia. Cancel. Who knows if they'll ever even come? Cancel.
No, I already got the shop pay notification that they sent it out. It's on its way. I can't. I can't do it. But I bring it up because maybe the 10,000 steps isn't real. Maybe the mushrooms aren't real. But I hear good things about the fungi. I do. Well, it sounds like Josh is here, like he's the living truth, right? And you're here to tell us they're life-changing. Are they? Yeah.
- I think, I think it's helping. I sure do tell myself, my mind can blow things up to such proportions. My mind is the Macy's Day Parade. It just floats, taking up the street all day long. How about for you? - Yes, I think if you're talking about just blowing things out of proportion, if that's what you're referring to, yes, I'm right there with you. - What's your major fear? - Oh, this is so easy. I mean, I have a ton.
- I love it. - But actually, have you seen the movie "The Impossible" either of you? - With Naomi Watts? - Mm-hmm. - I haven't, too sad, me neither. - It's, I mean, it just scarred me and changed my life forever. - Wouldn't it have been amazing if any time anybody over the last two podcasts asked if they saw a movie, the other two had seen it? - You're right. - It's the fourth one, Josh has seen nothing.
But sorry, but continue with the tsunami documentary. Sorry for that. So, well, you know what? It's not even about the documentary. The worst fear is tsunamis. And I had that fear in Utah, which is alarming because that would never happen there. And then heights and I floor to ceiling windows, but I'm so scared of heights. So I don't know.
Wow. That's a big tell that you're doing well if you live above floor 40. Thank you. Yeah. No one's ever like, grew up in the projects. My apartment was on the 72nd floor. Right. Wait, that's actually such a good indicator, right? It is. It's also a good indicator that you're overpaying in a big amenity building. Huh.
Like, why am I paying money for a zen garden? You know what I mean? I don't need to go to the zen garden. But now that you say that, I wish I had a zen garden. Right. Well, I mean, I do like to throw it in people's faces, right? Like all the humanities. And like take a picture in it. But...
it's still, it's like, I don't, I don't use them or utilize them. - You said you have a lot of influencers in your building. Are they, 'cause in my experience, especially in LA, the only thing, the only people utilizing the amenities are influencers for their stupid content, me included. - Also, I love how I tell them what floor I'm on. Just anyone listening, please feel free to stop by. Like, it's just absolutely insane.
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Postmates or DoorDash or any food delivery, they are not allowed to bring the food up anymore, which is why I'm leaving because that's insane. Like, why am I ordering Postmates, right? Oh, and your doorman doesn't bring it up either because my building, they don't allow Postmates or DoorDash, but the doorman will bring it up, which I love. It adds a nice layer of security. But for you, it's making you go f***.
floor down to the lobby to get your food. You might as well have gone out to eat. That's what I'm saying. It's absolutely bonkers. It's ridiculous. That's terrible. I know. That's terrible. I know. Thank you. Thank you for feeling my pain because sometimes I feel very spoiled. Well, that is a very spoiled thing to say. Is it? I don't think so. You're paying a delivery fee for it to be delivered if it was pickup.
you know, the building should fork over some of that fee. Thank you. You know what? I'm going to bring it up to the owner of the unit right after this podcast. And I'm sure he will actually give a fuck. No, he won't. They also just said September, my rent is going up $700. That's wild. Is that allowed? Like, is that legal? Can you do that? It's always a percentage of the rent you're paying now. So you're doing great. Yeah.
I know. I'm like, could I be more annoying on this episode? I'm like...
floor and oh my god and i have to go downstairs in the elevator to get my food i remember i was um i was working in canada and i had to quarantine for two weeks in toronto because it was right at the end it was like the last weeks of the pandemic or or the quarantining time in canada and you cannot leave your apartment for two weeks right because they want to make sure and like absolutely and and you know guests in the country
But so you're Amazon-ing, you're doing Instacart, Postmates, everything. And I'm sitting there and I have nothing to work out with. And like, I've got thick boy syndrome. Like literally the horrors of my childhood are like, you gotta do something. And so I order weights from Amazon. And I like explicitly say, even the guy calls me, he's like, I'm downstairs. I'm like, please come up.
And just leave it out. Just leave it outside the door. Like, I can't come down there. And he was like, I'm leaving it. I'm like, do not leave it. And...
And so I waited till like four in the morning. Now, the truth is, you were so terrified. Because if Canada caught you breaking quarantine, you could do six months in jail and or get an $800,000 fine. That's insane. That's crazy. Because it wasn't as bad there in certain areas. And they were like, we're letting you in here to work. You have to be cool. So I waited till like three in the morning. Wow.
And because I knew where it was, it was right by the elevator. I'm like, I'll wait till three in the morning. I'm going to put on like 20 masks. I'm like, was there like a hall monitor? Like what's happening? I was terrified. And I got in the elevator and I like see the package. And then I just hear like voices coming down. And I'm like, and I'm literally like, I'm going to Canadian jail. Like it's all.
over and I'm sure it's gonna be lovely because everything about Canada is lovely. Thank God I did not see anyone or was not near anyone and I grabbed my weights and went back upstairs. Okay, so you continued with the mission. I finished the mish. Okay, so you grabbed the weights and you went back up. Got the weights, 20 masks deep and my abs and my tris were thanking me for it. Really? And what did you refer it? You said you have thick boy...
What was it? Thick Boy Syndrome. Okay, that means you were curvaceous is what you're saying. I was more curvaceous than I am now, but in general. I need to put that work in.
I like that term. I think we need to add that term curvaceous. -Curvaceous. -Yes. -It's a good-- -Yeah, I like it. Thank you. So, Josh, I was actually going to intro you as Josh from Drake and Josh. And then I was like, will he be annoyed? And then Ben, I was actually going to intro you as Ben, aka Boy With No Job, aka Claudia O'Shry's husband. And I thought maybe you'd be offended by that. Would you guys have been offended by either of those intros?
Well, he sort of introduces them just now. So if you were offended...
That is the least offensive thing to me. Being Claudia's husband is the light of my life and being Boy With No Job is just a fantastic Instagram account that I love very much. So no, why would I take offense? And for Josh, I will speak for him, Drake and Josh was an unbelievable show that was robbed of Emmys and robbed of royalties, but what's not to love?
I mean, Drake and Josh was the best show on television. And I love, Ben, you sound very, very PR trained with your response. He does, right? Right. There's no better title in the world I could have as Claudia's husband. No, but I mean, if I was married to Claudia, I would do the same thing. She's a queen. It's a brag. Queen, queen. Yes, 100%. So, Josh, on Drake and Josh, I'm so intrigued.
interested because how old were you on the show? 14 to 19. Oh my god, 14. Was that like your first gig type thing or did you start acting and stuff when you were younger? Yeah, I grew up in New York and I started doing stand-up comedy when I was like 10 years old. Stop.
Yeah. At 11 o'clock at night, they would sneak me into the comedy clubs because they would lose their liquor license. Yeah. I'm like, wait, what? Because, I mean, comedy clubs, there's drugs, there's alcohol. I mean, comedians are, you know. Yeah, they're dirtbags. They're kind of crazy. You were 10 years old doing stand-up comedy. Yeah. And I was just there and I would like mess with the crowd and I had a really high voice and I'd be like, hey, I'm here looking for my dad. Just kidding. I never met him. Like, yeah.
And I'd make fun of kids at school and old jokes my mom used to tell. And yeah, I mean, my mom is older. So God bless her. She just had her 79th birthday and she's single mom as well. And so we have that in common. And so I was like her little project. She was in her early 50s. I was 10 and it was just her and I. So when I started having a bit of a talent for this thing, she's like, I'm going to support this.
Okay. So it was you, like you wanted to be on this stage and you were like, mom, I belong on like the big screen type of thing. I don't know if I like, I never thought of it for the fame part. I just like the way that a kid who plays T-ball is like, well, I want to play in the majors one day. Cause that's like the best version of the thing I love. Right. When I would watch people on television or sitcoms, I was like, well, yeah, that's just at a,
the high level of the thing I'm doing in my school play. Yes. And I was also like, and these kids suck. My fellow eighth graders are not committing. Right. You're like, I just did a show at Caroline's last week and I don't know what these losers are doing. I did a weekly show at Caroline's on Sundays, midday show, like two. Stop. Comedy don't do good in the daylight. No. I was the youngest, but it was be like,
a young person show. So like 10 to 18. - Oh, okay, that was like the crowd. It was like 10 to 18 year olds? - No, that was the people performing. - Oh, got it, got it, got it. - But yeah, the crowd was like usually families and stuff like that. - Oh, okay, like younger kids, got it. - Yeah, that was my, what do they call it? That was my residency. My weekly gig.
- That is incredible that at 10 years old, you just have the balls to, 'cause I think standup comedy is the hardest art form, right? Like the hardest thing to do in entertainment. I mean, you would know more than me, but to me, it seems like the most difficult thing. And at 10 years old, you're like, yeah, I think that's my calling, let's fucking go.
But it's also why I think like I've never been I've only been skiing once and it was five years ago And I was like, oh I got to this too late, right? There are certain things skateboarding gymnastics. Yeah, where when people are like taking it up at 26 I want to make what are you nuts? You need to get good at this when fear of injury is not first and foremost in your mind so I was 10 like
True. It sucked to bomb and I definitely did sometimes. But I also was like...
what's the worst that can happen? Yes. Yeah. I mean, I agreed with all of those sports, except I think skiing you can really pick up at any age. No? Should I? Yes. Do you ski? You're from Utah. Yes, I do ski. And you can definitely pick it up. I like lodge life. I like being in a Ralph Lauren sweater, drinking hot chocolate, getting a grilled cheese. It's the best. It's just, you like the cozy vibes. A candle. But I guess you don't really need a candle because there's a fireplace. Right?
Right? Was the Sundance Film Festival at all a part of your life growing up? Every year. Did you live near Park City? I live like 30 minutes away from Park City. So that was, yeah, that was a big thing. I love the Sundance shorts. It's gone a little bit downhill, I think. For sure. You know what I mean? Like people are not so much there for the film. It's Coachella. It's movie Coachella. Thank you. Like that's kind of what it's become.
It's like, do we do that to everything? Because Coachella is now like, like it's no one. I mean, I wouldn't want to go to Coachella. I feel like everything like over time just ends up being not cool anymore.
you're 100% right and corporations and gentrification fucks it up. And do you guys find that? I think what's happening is a bit of a reckoning in New York, right? Because the big annoyance was in the mid-aughts. Like, New York's not cool anymore. It's just like, it's so corporate. And now everyone's complaining that it's the crime and the thing's going downhill. But I'm like, it's going to become cool again because the rich people
move out and the artist will come back who could never afford it at that price and they'll make it cool again and then you suits will come in and ruin it so okay so we're saying sundance and uh coachella have a chance to be cool again it's got it but it's got a crash got it i think i think it's all perspective right like you can go into sundance for the cool factor and sundance is gonna stink
But if you want to go there and like great movies, you can. And the same thing sort of said for Coachella, right? If you go there not like looking to do drugs and looking to post on social media and you're just going there because it's still some of the best musical acts, period. I think it just depends on the perspective and the reason you're going. Like Coachella is not for me right now, but it could be under the right circumstances, right?
I am the person making it not cool because I'm talking about it being not cool. Right? Yeah. Wow. Okay. Well, that was a fucking wake up call for me. And thank you for putting me in my place. I'm like, no, I'm single handedly making these things not cool.
And back to New York for a second, Josh, because New York is always freaking cool and it's the best. And I have a question for Sophia because Josh and I talk about this all the time. The New York versus LA of it all, even though there's no competition, LA is just so inferior to New York. Sophia, somebody that currently lives in New York is currently in Los Angeles. Do you have an opinion on this debate? So I have talked about this many a time and I absolutely despise Los Angeles.
Why? I think it's, I don't think it's cute. I think New York is very cute. That's the number one thing. The people, although it could just be like the people that I meet. I'm sure there are great people in Los Angeles, but. The people, I don't think it's very cute. And I don't know, just something about it. Ben, why don't you like it?
I don't like it because I think it's one, funny not to like it. And when you tell somebody from LA that you don't like LA, they're like, oh, what? How can that possibly be the land of opportunity? So I think it's funny. Two, I think that they overrate their weather and they're stuck in this like,
2010 California travel commercial with Arnold Schwarzenegger at the helm talking about you must come to California for perfect weather. Terrible, terrible, terrible.
Was that more Dracula? Whatever. The weather stinks. Stinks. Every time I go, it's either cloudy or it's rainy. And the biggest thing with LA is they say weather and they say fame. And I want you to know I have
have never had good weather in LA and nobody's ever made me more famous in LA. So I like New York, especially because on top of all those things, New York is charming. As you mentioned, the food is fantastic. Clubs, clubs open till whenever you want. So many more restaurants, walking distance. There's always, it's a 24 seven city.
so much just cultural diversity and fun and just greatness. And yeah, so. - You really just shit on Los Angeles. - Wow, he is so hard. - I'm just saying, I'm just saying. - This guy is like cousins with Eric Adams, apparently.
I'm just saying, Josh, if you grew up in Los Angeles, do you really think you'd be where you are today? There weren't those comedy clubs for you to do at 10 years old. Oh, just the comedy store, the improv and the lab factory. They wouldn't let you in. They're not cool enough. I think the horrible truth is, and I could go off on New York all day, is that both these places suck.
I don't want to live in either anymore. You're so right. I'm so over it. And maybe it's because I'm an old man with two kids in my mid thirties, but like, it's so funny and I would never live in Texas, but my buddy Ryan Holiday lives in Texas and he's pretty reasonable.
And he lives in Austin, which obviously if you're going to live in Texas, actually Dallas is nice too. And he's like, it's so great because I'm three hours from New York and I'm three hours from LA and I'm two hours from Miami and I'm two hours from Chicago. I was like, I've never heard a better reason to move to Austin than that. And the taxes. Oh, the taxes. And obviously it's a liberal outpost in a wild ass state. But I was like, wait, I could be here and like...
Enjoy a nice suburban slice of loveliness. Get away from the rat race. And then if I gotta go anywhere, it's a three. I don't have to worry about getting Delta One because it doesn't sound like you had it, Sophia, in the window seat. Nevertheless...
Thank you for humbling me because my head was like up here. Sylvia, I don't fly it either. Too expensive. Delta One. I respect that you're not flying it. Thank you. It's crazy, right? It's like $3,000, $4,000. I'm not doing that. Are you? Every once in a while. You deserve it. Every once in a while, I'll allow. It's like a little treat. Save on Cox Internet when you add Cox Mobile and get fiber-powered internet at home and unbeatable 5G reliability on the go.
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Austin sounds boring, just how you explained it. I know. I know. I feel like that's why I love it. No, if I were, you know, single and crushing it, for sure. I was just making this movie in Asheville, North Carolina, and I was obsessed with
But yeah, but I've also, I've lived in major cities. I mean, Ben's a hard body karate New Yorker till the day he dies, but I've either lived in New York or Los Angeles. So maybe even the back nine of my life is a little slower. Yeah. You brought up a great point, which is the truth that New York and LA at some point, both there's something to be desired that's missing, which is just a slower pace, a nicer life.
The rat race that you enjoy also is very stressful, even if you don't realize it directly or not. Just living in Manhattan is stressful. It's impossible for it not to be. The hustle and bustle of everyday life. And it's the same thing with L.A. because if you're not stressed out in L.A., then you have so much money that you found a way to not be stressed out. And I think it's the same thing with New York, actually. So I take it back. Maybe you just need to reach a certain level of wealth. But Austin, Texas, I don't know.
Austin is like, it's kind of like LA. Austin's cool. I like Austin's proximity. I couldn't agree more. But I don't know. I'd rather, I think we've spoken about this. Let's just get a cabin in the woods. Something in like a Montana.
hang out get some horses live on the land live off the land cold wow that just took a turn Ben you're like New York Manhattan the bustle of the city to a cabin in the woods in Montana but also Utah where you're born and bred I love Utah I love it especially like the I
I don't know if you, do you know Caymus, Utah? I've been to Caymus. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Lovely. It's like ranches and horses and fun and chill and. Gorgeous. Yeah. But I mean, not, but not to live every day. No, absolutely not. Interesting. I don't think so. Yeah, no, I guess not. No, I guess not. We're building. We're growing. Yeah.
The fact that we just talked about geography for that long is that's how I know you guys are very good podcasters. Because only the three of us could go back and forth about LA, New York, and end up with Utah Cabin in the Woods. Like, I don't even know. Okay, but Josh, back to you being a childhood star. I just want to know. Can we talk about geography? Okay.
bring up the topography of New York State so then there's the Adirondacks Buffalo fun fact about New York quickly not to digress again but New York really doesn't get enough credit for being two completely separate states California does get that with the Southern California in the Northern California but New York you go up there and it is just a rednecks
- Bent necks in wilderness. - Ben, thank you so much for bringing it back. And thank you so much for now for sure wrapping it up and we're putting a period on the end of that conversation. Okay, Josh, is this like what Ben does when it's about you? - It's the best. I just love him. I can't get enough of the guy.
I wish I knew him longer than I wish I knew him my whole life. Yeah. I love how I'm like, okay, so Josh, childhood stardom and Ben just starts going off. I'm like, okay, is this, is this a trend? Is this like something you always do? Josh, we have our whole life to come. Don't worry. Okay. So Josh, childhood star. I need to know because Drake and Josh was on Nickelodeon. Yes. Okay. And you were, uh, you were on the Amanda Bynes show. Okay.
Okay, what were the parties like? The Nickelodeon, like was Jamie Lynn Spears pre-pregnancy taking shots with Amanda Bynes in the corner? Like what were the outings like that you guys would have? I'm so curious. We were so young. Like it was before, I'm sure there was like little bits of intrigue going on, but for the most part, it was bowling. Really? If you had a wrap party at a bowling alley in LA, your show was successful. Yeah.
Wow, okay. If you had a sampler platter and unlimited bowling and they were handing out arcade cards... That was the cool thing. Yeah, I mean, there was probably... Once we got like 16, 17, there was probably a circle of people who were sort of proving all of the stereotypes right. But I just...
I love Amanda Bynes. And I love being on her show. I love being her friend. I talked to her. I ran into her a few years ago and we...
you know, kept up for a couple months. But I just think she's like literally one of, besides being a great person, she's one of the greatest performers ever. - Oh my God. - She's a man. - I mean that performance is just-- - Unbelievable movie. Unbelievable. - Comedic genius. - She is. Did she get an award for that? Because if not, she absolutely should have. - I mean, Channing at his height. - Yes, yes. - Cute as cute gets.
- So hot, I love, I would say hot. - Channing, hot there, him and that and Coach Carter, I'll take that any day over this magic mic. - Oh my God, wait, Coach Carter, who played him? - Sam Jackson. - Oh my God, he's so fucking funny. That movie is incredible. - It's great, I love any movie like that though. "Finding Forrester," Coach Carter, I'm in. - Right, right. - Yeah. - Okay, so there wasn't like alcohol, like you guys weren't crazy.
No, I did that separately by myself in my apartment. Okay, so you were doing that, just not at the bowling alley with everyone else. When I got older. Okay, when you got older. Like, how old are we talking? I probably was a cliche from 18 to 21, sowing my wild oats and just being dumb, which...
It's not rare for, I would imagine, most people college age to be experimenting and making bad decisions. I just had a very specific, unique set of circumstances. Yeah. Yes, you did. So you got sober at 21? I did. Congratulations. That's huge. Thanks. You know, it works great for me.
And it's allowed me to become like a pretty hopefully respectable dude. And I got married and I always I laugh because my wife thinks I'm like such a square and I am now pretty much. But you're like laugh like and I'm one of my best friends. My buddy Len, we've known each other since we were 13. And we used to roll together like you would not believe. Okay.
He's a sober guy too. And he'll look at my wife sometimes and be like, you think the Josh you have now is the Josh that was always there. It wasn't. He's like, you should have seen him at 19, 20, 21. And she would have run away screaming because it was just a mess. Right. Yeah. Yes. A hundred percent.
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Well, congratulations. That's huge because I mean, you've been sober for how many years now? 15 years. 15 years. Yeah. And at 21, I mean, that's just like, that's such a huge accomplishment. I don't know if I'll ever be sober, but I would like to, you know, maybe cut back a little bit. The thing is drinking and all of those things. Like when I was younger, I could do it. And now it's like, I have a hangover for two and a half weeks.
you know, emotionally. And I'm like, why am I even still doing this? For what? I think that's a good point. And as the owner of an alcohol company, then what are your thoughts on it? And I love alcohol and that's why I continue to do that. And,
And Sophia loves Spritz Society. She's come to many an event and is a proud drinker. And I have never had a hangover from one, ever. And I will say that as I get older as well, I'm more a fan of sessionable drinking, right? So Spritz Society in particular, I made 6% because it's something in between a glass of wine and a beer where you can have, again, if you're able to, one or two. And it's like a nice...
you're not gonna be hungover the next day. It's a casual relaxing beverage, especially for like a beach or a pool or whatever.
That said, for me, I drink far less than I used to. I too, like Sophia, if I, I used to be able to drink on Tuesday nights again, like this is like clubbing era. It's like Tuesday nights, Thursday nights, Friday night, Saturday night. And then you grow up and either you become sober if it became a real problem or you do drink less. I think that it's a tall tale sign of somebody that
At some point, you should slow down because it definitely hurts your body if you drink that much, no matter if it's a problem or not. So I now just drink on weekends, really, because if I drink on a Tuesday night, I won't feel good on a Wednesday. And I have just too much shit to do to not feel good on a Wednesday. But I love people who drink. I do. You just came back with that. A lot of people, I hate, I hate this when people go like, do you mind if I? And I'm like, you're a grown up.
Drink your drink. I'm good. 15 years in. I appreciate that some people are a little bit careful around me with what they're consuming. But if my wife goes out and has a margarita or her sisters, people are drinking and they're not me. So they can handle it and they become chatty and fun and dance. That's lovely. Yeah. You don't frown upon it. No, not at all. I frown on guys who get angry.
Ooh, yes. Right. Yes, yes, yes. And to Ben's point, I don't need to have a hangover for two and a half weeks if I just decide to drink responsibly. Right? That's really what it comes down to. Seriously. Yeah. Or like take after The Rock. The Rock has that one Sunday cheat meal where it seems like he eats 900,000 calories on Sundays, like just blackout every Saturday. But the other day is just like.
Take it easy. We are not promoting blacking out. I'm like... Who said anything about blacking out? I'm like...
where am I is this Inception I love there's nothing more though that I do love when I will see people like my sister-in-law or like somebody who's hurting the next day after a drinking escapade and I will just do things I'll be like I might go out for a run I might have a tuna fish sandwich and they're like
I'm dying. Right. They're like, I need electrolytes. Speaking of, Sophia's podcast is sponsored by Liquid IV. Any electrolyte sponsorships? You know what? Not right now, but hopefully after I send Liquid IV this episode, I have to send this episode to like 50 potential sponsors now. It's interesting that your sister-in-law has issues with tuna fish when hungover because that to me is an absolute go-to. Give me a tuna salad sandwich on a bagel. I guess it's
said either hungover or not hungover i just love tuna but i have no issues yeah thank you ben thank you so much for coming in with your feelings on tuna fish this episode brought to you by bumblebee but i mean josh you you're like the dad who wakes up before everyone and then tells everyone about it right
Yeah, I do talk. Yeah. I mean, I'm up. Yeah. I was up today at 545. Wow. Ben, what about you? 730. Not bad. Wow. That's not bad. Okay. I'm like a 9 a.m. earliest type of gal. Not bad either. Okay. Can you stay in bed after you wake up? No.
I'm out of that thing. I getting in bed. There's nothing better. And in the morning it's like, I want out. Right. Yeah. Right. I mean, I will have like a lazy Sunday though. We're all just stay in bed and watch movies, put the towel out and eat food off of it. You never do that.
No, never. Your wife would kill you. She's a chiller. She can do it. Oh, okay. But I got something called Spilkus, also known as Ants in the Pants. Love it. I can't. I gotta go. Okay. Yeah. Love that. Okay, so I know we have to wrap this up. You guys are both hilarious. I wanted to talk to you about a hot tub etiquette, but I don't think we're gonna have time.
Josh and Ben, thank you so much for coming on. Where can they find you? Do you guys have anything you want to promote, plug?
our podcast with you. Good guys. What an honor. And thank you. You're just so lovely. Thank you for having us. Thank you. Thank you. And Ben, do you have anything to say for yourself? Nothing about tuna or geography, please. Thank you for having us. First and foremost, New York is split into two areas. The Northern part. No, I'm just kidding. Listen to the good guys, please watch everything that Josh is in. He's an esteemed actor and he's in a ton of wonderful stuff. And,
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