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98: Going Deep ft. Chad and JT

Publish Date: 2022/10/13
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Hi everybody, welcome to Sophia with an F. If you haven't yet, please subscribe. Just, you know what, pamper yourself, do it for yourself. I am recording from WTF Media Studios in New York. We are having a little late night recording right now.

I am joined by Chad and JT. Chad and JT are fresh from the... What is his show? Late Night with Seth Meyers, I think. He's a pretty big deal. He's pretty well known. He was super nice. He was? We've done a couple things and he was...

he's one of the few who meets you beforehand. Oh! Which put me at ease. I thought that was very generous of him. That is. And then he was really nice out there. And then we got to meet... The other person who went on before us was Bernie Sanders. Oh, I mean... He stepped on some of our material, but he was a nice guy. Yeah. The brief moments we met him. Was that intimidating, knowing Bernie was going before you? No, for whatever reason it wasn't. I mean, I know he's like a political icon, but I feel like we're in different lanes. Yeah. So I wasn't...

No, it was kind of cool. I liked that he was there. I mean, you guys are political icons in your own right. You guys are so fucking hilarious. I've watched your Netflix show. I've listened to your podcast and...

You do a lot of activism for different causes, but it seems like there's one common thing with everything and it's to amplify the stoke. Is that correct? Yeah, that's well put. Okay, thank you. Can you please explain what the stoke is?

You want to fire it off? Yeah, we've had different working definitions for it. I always find it easiest to connect it to experience. So for me, stoke is like in a car with your two best friends and your girlfriend going to get fish tacos. Okay. Yeah, just a feeling of elation. And you described it as abundance. And what was the other word? Optimism. And optimism. Okay. And for me, if I were to put in sort of an example, I'd say...

That feeling you get after you redline your Toyota Supra and shotgun a monster energy. What does it mean to redline? That's when you take the RPMs all the way to red. Okay, so that's when you go really fast in a car. Yeah, preferably a burnout. And then, you know, you shotgun a monster energy beforehand. Okay. So there's lots of smoke and preferably in like the Mojave Desert, you know, so it's not dangerous. Okay.

You're getting a tan. That's specific as fuck. Yeah. But overall, it's like a sense of well-being. Yes. Yeah. And I think it's like whatever your demons are, whatever you grapple with day to day, it's like a reprieve from that. It's like whatever psychological fun house is playing with you, it just kind of disappears and you're just present in all the good offerings of the world. Wow. And I think too, especially like,

in recent years it feels like the collective energy level of just most people in the niche has been low the niche yeah and it and so I think our whole drive is just to lift people back up because you get caught in the minutia of you know

The economy, taxes, inflation. Who even knows what these things are, but they're bringing people down. You know, on the topic of mental health and how we're feeling as a society, you guys recently went on Jimmy Kimmel. And I do want to offer my condolences. You had a friend pass away. Our buddy Frodo died. Right. And can we talk about that a little bit? He passed away due to too much stress.

But if I were to quote you guys, it was he OD'd on the grind. So after he passed, we didn't know what had happened. He had an aneurysm, which is something that happens in your brain. Where it explodes. Your brain explodes. And he...

we were left with a lot of questions because we don't know how one of those things just comes about, especially in a young, healthy man. Right. But then we did a deep dive into his Instagram likes and it was all just like work all day posts, got to be on your grind posts. And it kind of gave us a roadmap of his brain. And we're like, dude, he never partied. It'd been like eight years since he partied since graduation. And, uh, he was so, uh, committed and focused to, to,

to winning in his career that he forgot to let loose and... And rage. And rage. You know, things like going to Vegas, Miami, Dubai. Yeah, he ended up... You missed Mykonos. I've never been. Where is that? It's the Jersey Shore now. It's the New Jersey Shore. Oh! It's in Greece somewhere. New Jersey Shore of Greece. Whoa. Oh, I'm looking forward to that. Which sounds fantastic. The Greek shore? That'd be cool. Yeah.

Yeah, and I think too, you know, it's like we're like inundated with like the grind. You know, you have like Mark Wahlberg waking up at 2 a.m. Gary Vee producing, Gary Vanderpump producing tons of content. And then Dwayne Johnson just busting it out on his elliptical. And it's like the grind is important, but you can grind yourself too hard. And one thing is like we changed the oil in our car, but what about our domes? Yeah. And so it's like,

We came up with sort of a prescription for this to like, you know, release the valve and let the stress out, which is... Trips to Vegas. Trips to Las Vegas. Trips to Las Vegas. Just that's the answer. Yeah, just clear your hopper. Just get all that stress out on the dance floor, at the tables. We went to Life is Beautiful Music Festival and we brought Frodo's ashes. We had the ashes crowd surf. We...

Did you spill them out on the crowd or was he in a container contained? He was pretty sealed up in there, but there was a moment where we met some cool frat guys and we're like, hey, we'll give you a handful of Frodo to take back to LSU. For a handful of Molly. And yeah, they sent us a video of them snorting them.

And we, you know, indulge in kind of what's naughty, you know, like eat lots of pretzel bites, drink booze. It may seem counterintuitive, but doing Adderall in the bathroom can be good for you. Right.

It's a way to let loose. And I think, you know, I'm a huge advocate for mental health on this show. And people always talk about yoga, therapy, getting enough sleep. And we do all that. Yeah. I'm like super therapized. Right. But.

But that's not the, I mean, if we're going to really like put it on a scale, it's the trips to Vegas. And you need balance. And my therapist encourages it. That's actually how I knew Gary was my guy. Because I was like, Gary, what do I do about this stress I'm feeling? He's like, you got to go fucking rage in Vegas. And I was like, this guy gets it. Are you referencing Gary Vee? No, Gary Penn. Okay.

I'm happy to shut out. - I thought you were saying Gary Vee was your therapist. - That would be pretty hilarious. You need to stop being a fucking bitch. You need to focus up and you need to get out there and crush, okay? - What are you even doing JT?

I'm like, imagine just saying Gary Vee is your therapist. Like, yeah, he posts videos every single day. I watch all of them. Like, I'm in therapy for sure. Has he talked about sadness before Gary Vee? Does he experience that or no? I think he has, but he'll only talk about it for 0.2 seconds. And then it's... And it's like a past tense experience, right? Yeah. I was sad for like a moment. Yes. Yes.

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Your cash back really adds up. So this trips to Vegas thing, it's like you can unwind and unwinding sometimes means fucking raging and going hard and getting crazy, which I agree with. I totally agree with that. I think some people would disagree with you guys and say partying, alcohol, drugs could be bad for your mental health.

What do you have to say to those people? Well, it's all part of the three Bs, you know, balance, being there for your crew and blowing off steam, blowing off steam. Balance is important. You can't work too hard. You can't play too hard. You got to work hard and play hard. Find that middle ground. You know, there's people go to Vegas too much. You got to look out for them and be like, hey, you need to cool it. I think you may need to, you know, produce more content on social like Gary Vee would say, you know, but think about the people who aren't in Vegas, you know,

Workaholics. Yep. Homebodies. Guys with families. These are the people who need Vegas the most. Right. We also have a built-in kind of precautionary ripcord for people who are doing the Stoker-Krog philosophy, and that's called the cutoff principle. And that's when you're partying and you see someone look at you like this, you stop. Okay.

I'm gonna need you well to people who are listening and they can't see the eyes are basically shut It's like when someone looks at you and they're just like you're a mess. You're too fucked up. You just bumped into me I don't know you get it together when you get that look you have to have the wherewithal to be like I'm gonna stop there. Yeah, okay. I fully support that there's balance It's not like, you know, just go rage your face off and that's gonna solve your problem

And that's why we also encourage people to do it because we're encouraging hedonism, which is the pursuit of pleasure, but it's not self pleasure. We want people to do this with their crew. And I think your crew has to be responsible and mindful and keep an eye out for you. Okay. And how do you establish who your crew is? It's a good question. We're kind of seeking that out right now. Like trying to figure out crew dynamics on a level where other people could apply it. I don't know. How do you think you find your crew?

Whoever you can connect with on the dance floor. Okay. You know, like my buddy Zach, we were at the Zed show. He'd be like 30 feet away and he'd just be like doing this. Okay. And I'd just like lock eyes with him. And I was like, you're part of my crew. Right. I think that's a good...

I think that's a great one. So for people, cause I get asked this question all the time for people who are having a hard time, you know, making friends or they move to a new city and they can't make friends. Go to the, go to the club. Yeah. Dance it. Yeah. Dance it out. Yeah. And find your, and find your crew, find your people. And I,

I think with all those things too, it's like if you're chasing it too hard, it kind of evades you. I talk about the unicorn parable, which is like these dudes were chasing for a unicorn and they went into the forest and they're like, we got to find the unicorn. And they chopped down trees and they set traps. They ended up just burning the whole forest down. They never found the unicorn. And then one day someone went out there and just had a pretty picnic with a friend playing the ukulele and the unicorn walked right up to him. So you just got to create a...

a positive environment and feel good about yourself in it and then your homies will approach. - Your vibe attracts your tribe. - Right. - I think so. - When you were talking about unicorn, do you mean a horse with the horn or do you mean-- - Is that what a unicorn is? - It could be that or it could be the perfect person to bring into a threesome, right?

Is that what they call that? Yeah. That's a tough one too. Yeah, that is a unicorn. I like yours. I like the second one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the perfect person for a threesome because you can trust them. They're going to follow all of the rules. They're hot enough for both of you, but you're not intimidated. It's just the perfect person to bring into the bedroom. They're not going to overdo it with the eye contact. Yes, yes, exactly. Or like post bust, be like...

Too touchy. Exactly. Right. Like after you nut, let's say, let's say we're talking about a female unicorn. Okay. After you nut, she,

she understands that she's not going to, you know, sleep over and snuggle and, you know, she's not going to lay her head on your chest. She's out the door. Right. Yeah. That's a unicorn for some people. Yeah. I don't know what a unicorn is for you guys, but... Yeah, I think someone who'd probably, like, throw on wedding crashers in order to take out. And then once you finish your orange chicken, it's like you bow to each other. Okay.

You bow? I like that. I do, yeah. Yeah, make it like a sensei sign, like a sign of respect. I do like that. With the open hand over the fist. Okay, good. That's, you know what, that was really insightful. Thank you. And I agree with that. And you know what, on the topic of sex, you guys, through your activism, I have felt inspired. And I would like to talk about something that I want to bring awareness to, which

I feel very opposed to same-sex marriage. Wait, you're opposed to gay people getting married? I'm opposed to having the same type of sex forever and ever and ever once you get married. Oh, dude, that was good. Do you know what I'm saying? I was like, whoa, dude. I was like, oh, fuck, man.

Did you know this was going on? I was like, dude, come on, man. I just think missionary guy on top of girl for 10, 20 years, that's not fair. And that's not okay. Right. And I don't understand all of these people, you know, same-sex marriage, like, let's make it okay. Let's make it legal. What the fuck? Why? Why would we? That's funny. That triggered me a little bit because that is like my favorite kind of sex to have is missionary. And...

I'm very into it, but I probably should mix it up more. You've never mixed it up ever. Sometimes, but I really do kind of, that's my, that's my lane. Uh huh. What do you think, Chad? I think, um, if you're doing the same sex thing all the time, uh,

It's like, oh fuck, is that a clip? No, if you're, if you're, if you're doing, if you're boning the same way every time, you know, maybe that's a sign that it's like things have gone, you know, I think it's a good sort of barometer for, uh, you know, you can try standing up. Yeah. I think, uh,

I think you just got to keep exploring. Keep exploring. Yeah. So we all agree. We're all opposed to same sex marriage. And I think, yeah, everyone here agrees. Great. Done. Boom. We can move on to the next thing. Okay, guys. So,

Through your Netflix show, your podcast, fucking everything, just me to you guys right now, you guys give off an air of absolute confidence. Big time. You walked in just schlong, dangling, just big, big dick confidence energy vibes. Wow. I don't know if you guys have big dicks and I'm not asking unless you want to share, but... No, we have small penises. Okay. Small. Well, Chad's average.

Average and small. Oh, yeah. I haven't fully accepted that yet. But according to a bouncer... A bouncer? Yeah. At a club. And I see to his expertise. But we basically in the show, if you watch, we have a small dong nightclub where small dongs skip the line, you know? Oh, okay. And a bouncer, you know, measured mine and he's like, you're average. Okay. And I was like...

measure again chief and he's like no it's average and um what was the original point you were making though um I think it's it's where you get your confidence from and how you can help people with their confidence oh for sure yeah but

But you hate the fact that you have an average-sized dick, which I understand. I just think I let the small dong community down. No, you didn't do that, man. Oh, thanks. It's not exclusionary. You're a hero for all of this. Thanks. No matter your dong. Okay. I told him that one time. I was like, look, small dong or porn star peace. I love you the same. Thank you. Well, you know what I think? I think if you have a small dong, that's how we refer to the penis, dong, right? I think if you have a small dong...

and you can be confident as fuck knowing that you have a small dong, that's the sexiest, most confident type of man you can be. Yeah, I think confidence is the key with a lot of things. It can make up for shortcomings or short penises. Right, right, absolutely. Yeah.

So do you guys have any advice for people who don't feel confident? Nothing in relation to their dick size. Just aside from that, this could be for women, for men. I'd say I struggled with confidence when I was younger and I was really, really shy. I think for me, it was just sort of

thrusting, putting myself in uncomfortable situations a lot. First off, I found something I love to do, activism, and I just went full throttle into that. And then through doing that, we found ourselves in sort of uncomfortable situations like in front of the city council or like talking to politicians and stuff like that where it's like, it just forced me to break out of my shell. Right.

You know, so only through really experience and also just reading, you know, things like stoicism and stuff like that. Okay. It's just like helped me to...

find that place where now I feel comfortable in any situation. So putting yourself out there and reading books on stoicism. Yeah. Can you give me an example of one of those books? Ryan Holiday. Okay. Is that Robert Green's friend? Yes. Okay. He has books like The Obstacle is the Way and Ego is the Enemy. Okay. Okay.

Which I've found great. Okay. Yeah. I find your answer so interesting, Chad, because I did kind of stalk your Instagram. And you said kind of a surefire way to feel confident is to refer to yourself as daddy. And that was kind of like the key. Yes. Do you still stand by that? Absolutely. Okay. I've been calling myself daddy for about five years now. Okay. Yeah.

And, you know. Look where it's got you. I mean. I mean. You're living true. I am daddy. Yeah. And then like no one can deny it. My local baristas know it. You know. My parents know it. Yeah. You know, my parents call me daddy. Okay. Everyone calls me daddy now. Your dad calls you daddy. Yeah, I've heard them on the phone together. And when they say goodbye, Chad's like, say it.

And his dad's like, say what? He's like, say it. You know what to say. And his dad actually has a pretty deep voice, but his dad's octave will change and he'll go, bye, daddy. Okay. It was nice talking to you, son.

And you say that to him. What about you, JTD? Are you using the daddy thing? With the confidence thing, I agree. I think patricide, like dominating your father is kind of the key. It's flipping that power dynamic. If you can own your dad and make him subordinate and son, it's impossible not to have confidence after that. So I'm perpetually looking for ways to punk my father and make him my bitch. And I think correcting people too. You know, you're at the DMV. You're at...

the doctor's office appointment you know they try to call you by your name right you're like that's not my name and you won't even allow them to do their tests or whatever they're going to do until they call you daddy okay and i run tests on my doctor like he's like hey we're going to scan your stomach see if you got like a kidney stone or a bug and then i'll be like i'm gonna scan your stomach yeah i flip it on them and in that moment when you flip a

Like the power dynamic on a person of stature like that. Again, you walk out of that room, doesn't matter the size of your dick. You're feeling good about yourself. You're 10 feet tall and bulletproof. Wow. Okay. So people who kind of have like that level of stature or are in that type of authoritative role, just flipping it around on them. I won't even tell you what I did to Bernie Sanders today. Did you tell him to call you daddy? I did. I said, nice to meet you, Senator Sanders. And he said, JT. And I said, it's daddy, son. Mm-mm.

Yeah, I went in for a handshake. He came in for the handshake. I went in too, but I juked him and I tapped his dode. You tapped his what? His balls. Okay, so he went in for the handshake. You averted it. Averted it. Tapped his bellend. Did you backhand his balls or front tapped the balls? Underneath the balls? Just the front. And I was like, how's that for free college? Okay, got it.

So you guys made Bernie Sanders your bitch today. Yeah, he knows who daddy is. Yeah. Yeah.

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I used to refer to myself as daddy or father actually in another life. Looking back on it, I find it extremely cringe and I don't like that about myself that I used to do that. But you know what? I think it's working for both of you guys, you know? Thank you. Thanks.

Yeah, it could be a phase. Who knows? Yeah. But it's working out very well, it seems like. So far, yeah. Yeah, it's been great. Okay. I'm so glad we established that. Guys, if you are not feeling confident, I don't care if you're in the bedroom at a job interview, daddy. Put daddy on your fucking resume and that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's on my resume. Oh, it is. It's on my CV.

Yeah, I got pulled over one time and the cops like driver's license and I handed him a post-it note that said daddy and he drove off. And you didn't get a ticket and you showed him who the fuck is boss. I gave him a ticket. I, on his second post-it note, he just wrote it. I just go, you're fired. Stop wasting my time. You're wasting taxpayer money.

Okay, guys, let's jump into these fucking questions. I don't have that much time left with you, but these are fucking fantastic. Okay, question number one. Hey, Sophia, how do I pretend to be a Republican to get on somebody's boat?

Should my friends and I start drinking at yacht clubs? How do we get the plug? Where is she writing from? Is she? You know what? I don't have that info because these are anonymous questions. That sounds like an Orange County question. I would like to know why you would need to seem like a Republican to get on a boat.

Yeah, I might skip that part. And then if I was like in Newport Harbor and I was trying to get on a boat, I think I'd act stranded in the harbor. Oh, great. Be on a paddleboard, break your paddle and then be sitting out there and just kind of have your hands up. Yes. And then someone on a boat. Most people are nice. They want to bring more people onto their yacht party. So just wait for someone to pass by and just kind of look around.

marooned out there and then hopefully someone offers you a lift and then be good company once you get on the boat. Okay. That's genius. And if she needs some Republican jargon, they're all into real estate. So say things like, sorry, I was busy. I was working on an investment in an opportunity zone and then I think we're going to do a 1031 exchange. Investment in an opportunity zone. That is some shit right there. Yeah. Just learn a couple like real estate phrases and then that

And then you're ready to go. You're on the fucking boat. You're through the door and then it's safe after that. That's absolutely genius. Act stranded. I like that a lot. I like that a lot, a lot. I mean, you just fucking killed it, daddy. Whoa, thank you. There you go. Okay, next question. Did you hear that, Bernie? Oh.

All right, next question. Hi, Queen. I have a red flag debate. Do we think it's a red flag for a guy to own a vibrator? Like, is he just super sexually open and cares about a woman's pleasure? Or is he a fuck and that's his ex's vibrator that he doesn't clean properly? Well, no, it better not be his ex's vibrator. That's breaking some kind of rule. You can't use the same vibrator. Is it?

I have to say I disagree. That you think if you got it, keep it? I think if it's, you know, like the rabbit, the magic wand. I mean, those can be pricey. And I think once you disinfect it, and I think there's kind of this period of time that needs to go in between. Like you couldn't have just used it on a girl the night before. That's not okay. Yeah, it seems like a UTI or something. Yeah, something like that.

But I think if there's enough time in between and the right sterilization of the toy, then I think it's okay. I think you have to spiritually cleanse it too. Yeah. You know, with crystals, if there's a full moon, you put them in the full moon to recharge them. You put the vibrator in the full moon and then you sage it and that'll clear it of any negative energy from past relationships. Right. And then you dump it in Barbicide. Yeah.

Yeah, with like some photos of your ex and like a letter she wrote you or something. And you burn it around the vibrator. Yeah. Okay. So those energies are purified from it. Yeah. I've never heard of a dude. I had one friend who owned vibrators. Really? And he was a weird guy. Yeah.

I feel like you want to be open to the vibrator, but having your own, I don't know. I guess that's more liberated than I am. I never thought about that. I'm happy if someone has one, but I've never been like, oh yeah, I brought my own hardware for you. I have two.

But that's because Trojan sent us a box of stuff. Are they yours that you use on yourself or for someone else? Depends. Well, Daddy doesn't need those for himself. Okay. Why not? It's an honest question. That's a fair point that Daddy's going to consider. Yeah. No, but I did have them and I entered a new relationship and she's like, is this from Pat? I was like, no, I've never used them. They're just like...

Trojan. I've just been holding on to them. Yeah, I've just been holding on to them. That's for the right girl. Someone gifted them to you rather than... Yeah, so I'd say if they were gifted to him, he's good to go. If not...

Sage it. Crystal. Put it out in the full moon. And then disinfect it and then purge it of any negative energy. I probably was being too judgy. You own a vibrator? That's cool. You just like to throw it out. I don't think it's a red flag. I don't think it's a reason to not date this guy, right? No. He sounds like a good dude. I don't want to go as far as say he's a good dude. I always do that. I go too far the other way. I think he's probably a freak.

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Yeah. He likes to have sex and he knows how and he's had a lot of it. Next question. Hey, Sophia. Straight male here that's into some ass play. I recently started dating a girl who I've grown to like a lot, but recently

realized her strong conservative views. I recently brought up ass play as a joke to Tessa Waters and she was absolutely disgusted about the joke and said it wasn't funny. I'm wondering how I can get her to be a little more open to dogging me

Without losing her. You're hot, by the way. It's a tough one, brother. I don't know. If someone's not inclined that way, people are funny about their sexual preferences. Whatever their kinks are, are totally normal to them. And then someone else's kinks can be completely off-putting to them. Yeah. And I don't know. It's...

It's tough for me because, like, I don't think... If a girl's not into eating ass... You can't flip the roll on her. It's hard to flip that switch. And then even if they're willing to do it, if they're not into it... Yeah, does it feel that great? It's kind of a bummer if she's down there and you're like, she's really suffering right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like you can't... If you're either into ass or you're not. That's what it is, right? Yeah. That's a really tough...

It's a tough one, brother. Interesting. You're either into us or you're not. And there's no in between. I think so. Okay. I mean, maybe for some people that are open to it. I dated someone who was like, you shouldn't be afraid of me putting a finger in your butt. And I was like, yeah, I don't want to be afraid. Let's try it. And then it just doesn't... It didn't work. It doesn't work for me. And then I gave it a good college try, but I'm like, why am I going to force this if it's not what my heart is telling me to do? Yeah. And maybe that wasn't very daddy of me, but...

I tried it too. I gave it the good college try. And it wasn't for you. No, but I do like the other way. Okay. I've eaten this. I'm mostly a vagina guy. Just the front. I like the front. I like pushing the envelope a little bit, but it's more like teasing. I've never had anal sex and I'm actually not that interested in it. Okay. But I'm very like... Supportive?

Yeah, if someone was really into it and they were like, try this, I'd be down. But I haven't really had any partners who are hankering to do it. So it just hasn't come up a ton. Yeah, so I think she should be...

If she's a good partner, she should be willing to be like, I'll give it a shot for you. Or at least entertain it without, even if she doesn't do it, to at least talk about it without judgment. I think that is really, really smart. Don't kink shame. That could be the worst thing you could do. Yeah, don't make him feel bad for being into something that's not bad. It's just not you. If he's like, babe, I think you should try dogging me.

Yeah, the dogging verbiage they used in this question kind of threw me for a loop. I mean, you guys are all with like the vernacular that's cool. What does dogging mean to you? Does that mean a girl playing with your asshole? To me, it sounded like...

What's the thing with the strap on? Pegging. Pegging? Pegging. Yeah. Because I don't know why dogging would be eating ass. You don't think you just imagine a dog like. Oh, that is true. Yeah. Because when I heard it, I just pictured a dog like lapping something up. Well, how big of a deal do you think that is if he's like really into it, but she's not? Hmm.

Like how important should that be to him that she's willing to do that? I guess that's... I don't think he should be able to put that much value on it. If their sex is great besides that one little thing, then... Yeah, that's the thing. With any partner, you're not going to get 10 out of 10 everything you want. But like if they're cool and you love them and it's like 8 out of 10, I think, you know, you just roll with that. Yeah. Or if the ass thing is that important, what are you willing to give up? You know? Right.

Maybe like her personality, not great, but she's eating your ass all day and you don't even need to talk to her. So it doesn't really matter. You know? Yeah.

You can give things up to get the things you want, but not everyone has to have every single thing. - Yeah. - Totally. - So he needs to assess his values. - Exactly. - Where does ass rank? - Yeah. - He should talk to his dad about it. - Do you guys ask your dad or your mom for questions like this? - Both. - Both? You sit them down together? - My parents are pretty freaky, so I feel very comfortable with both of them. - Yeah. How do you think your dad would respond in this situation?

I think he would tell me to, you know, focus on my career or something like that. Chad, what about your parents? I think I'd go to my dad. You'd go to your dad? Yeah. Okay. We're all a little bit more kind of closed up, I think. I talked to my dad about sexual stuff one time.

and uh s-e-x yeah i was like dad it was like a one thing where i like hit myself okay down there you hurt your penis or your balls yeah that area yeah and i thought i wouldn't be able to get hard anymore for like a period of three days but it was just because i like hit myself down there i fell that's scary and so i called my dad about it and he's like

And I'm like, yeah, it's like three-fourths of the way, but not... And he's like, I'm 76. I can't even get a boner. Is that what he said? Did he say that? Yeah, he's like, I take Viagra, you stupid fuck. Dude.

- Dude, I don't know how these old dudes do it. I've taken Viagra before. I feel like shit the next day. It lowers your blood pressure. Like you get up too quick, your head's wobbly. These old dudes, they're just a tougher generation. They never complain about it. They just keep it moving. - Yeah, yeah. - Wow, so I mean, your dad, I think that was great advice. - Yeah, he was just like, be grateful for what you have. And then I was like, oh yeah, you're right.

Why am I crying to you about this? Yeah. I think that was really insightful from your daughter. I didn't know Viagra. I didn't know there was such a thing as a Viagra hangover, essentially. When I was single, I would do it once in a while because I really wanted to knock it out of the park. And yeah, I couldn't work out the next day because I was fatigued from it. But why would it need to work out the next day? No, I couldn't go to the gym. Oh.

I would like fatigue too quickly. I see what you're saying. Yeah. It took too much out of you. Yeah. I think it does kind of, maybe I'm just sensitive to it, but it worked my body. Yeah. Maybe we need to pay attention to like the milligrams or, you know, for sure. Maybe take half, half a pill next time. Yeah. I was doing a low dose, but still. Oh,

That's very, very interesting. She'd feel good because you're like, oh, I did a good job of making love. But then you'd be like driving home. You're like, oh. See, we better time that shit out very well then. Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, because if a girl cancels on the date and then she wants to see you the next night, you're fucked. Yeah, that happened once or twice. It was very frustrating. That is a cautionary tale. Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay, guys, this is our last question. I think we've covered a lot of ground. We have a lot, a lot. And I want to wrap it up with this. And this person wrote in and said, what would you do if you had a fear of people staring at you? I have had this fear for seven and a half years. How would you deal with that? I would...

I mean, I think that goes back to Chad when you were talking about confidence and just you have to insert yourself in uncomfortable situations. Right. And do it over and over and over. It's like exposure therapy. And except this person's been doing it for seven and a half years and is still has a phobia of it.

They've been doing the exposure therapy? Well, they... They've been going outside and risking it. Yeah. They've left their house so people see them. I think they need to amp it up.

Times 10. The underlying thing seems like maybe they have some self-esteem issues, like they don't want to be seen. And so I think you got to go contrary action, go the opposite way and just be like everywhere, daddy's here. Maybe be a nude model for an art class and they can paint you and you have to just stand there naked for hours on end. And you got to be still. You got to be still for like seven hours. You can't move. That would...

that would eradicate it for sure that's tough work yeah I think that's really really good if you're worried about something it's go the extreme route I have a severe fear of heights what do I need to do bungee jump

That's what I need to do. I like that. I like that. That's how you beat the universe down. You just do the extreme, the complete opposite of whatever you're scared of. Totally. 100. I'm also scared of sleep and I have insomnia. So just don't ever sleep. Just stay awake constantly. Is that what I should do? I don't know. I think I just got in a really bad habit of staying up till 4 or 5. Mm-hmm.

And then I just kind of lay in bed. And then the second the sun starts to come up,

game over you fall asleep no oh i'm like the day is here let's get going do you put a lot of pressure on yourself like when you're in bed are you like fall asleep fall asleep yes big time big big time do you guys have problem with sleep or no if like i have like a stressful day coming up i have a tough time going to sleep okay which is that same kind of anxiety yeah um which in that case i'll just if i'm feeling anxious about falling asleep i'll just be like who is daddy

I'm daddy and I fall asleep. Right. Right. It's that daddy mantra. Yeah. It's fucking good. I'm going to try that one tonight. I don't think mommy has the same flair. Right? I'm like, mommy, like you got this. This is mama's bed. Mama works. I could see myself saying that. Yeah. Yeah. I like to gender bend it a little bit. Yeah. Like if I walked into like, you know, crowded places.

Whole Foods. I was like, mama's here. Yeah. I like that. There's something empowering about it. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I was thinking like, because you believe in God. So like when you pass away and your spirit transcends this. When you float up to him. Yeah. This, you know, corporeal existence. When you see God, what's going to be the first thing you say to God? That's a loaded question. What's going to be the first thing I say to God? Because I think, yeah. Yeah.

Who's daddy? Exactly. You guys are both saying that to God. And we're going to die at the exact same time. So we're just going to go up there at the same time and say. We're going to look at each other, you know, sort of like a let's do this. Who's daddy? Who's daddy?

that is you know what that is just a fucking testament to how confident you guys are because i mean it's one thing to tell bernie sanders that shit yeah to tell god when you reach the gates of heaven hell where are you guys going but we only got here through meditation and reading can you imagine tapping god's dode whoa the celestial dick tap well if it's god i assume god has both a

Dick and a pussy. Yeah. It's like the alien from aliens. Right. Yeah. It's phallic and vaginal. Right. Simultaneously. Yeah. Wow. Guys, what a note to end this episode on. That was fucking...

that's something to chew on after this episode is, this might be the weirdest podcast. I got to say, this is probably the weirdest podcast. That's what happens when you leave the Seth Meyers show and you touch Bernie Sanders, dode and you're recording late at night. I mean, that's, that's just like, that was the recipe for this type of episode. Chad JT. Thank you so, so much for coming on. Where can they find you guys? Where are you next?

So we're going on tour. You can see our tour dates at chatandjt.com. Chad goes deep on Instagram. Jtpar14. Yeah, and Chad and JT go deep on YouTube. Chad and JT go deep on Netflix. Okay. That's the big one. And then going deep with Chad and JT is the podcast. Oh, the podcast. Yeah, yeah. And then what's the TikTok? Chad and JT.

You guys got that TikTok? I don't believe it for some reason. That handle? Chad and JT. Yeah. Okay. If anyone's confused, I would just Google Chad and JT go deep or something about being deep and you'll find them. Yeah. We'll figure out a way to streamline all these names so they all kind of fit together. Yeah. And I'll post, you know. I'll post the links so they can find you guys. Oh, that's very nice of you. Thank you.

And you guys know where to find me. Sophia with an F, Franklin with a Y. And on TikTok, it's Sophia Franklin and the number zero. All right, sleuths. Chad, JT, you guys are fucking hilarious. Amazing. And sleuths, I will talk to you next week. Bye.