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What's up, everybody? Welcome to Sophia with an F. I have a lot to say this week. I am joined by one of my really good friends. But before I even intro you or talk about you, there's something a little more important. What? I'm dropping my new collection.
It's going to kill it. It's incredible. Amazing. Baby blue, white, sporty, chic. Like the fucking, I honestly. Wait, those pieces on your bed were your merch? Yes. Wait, I was like, where are those from? Right? Wait, it's giving. Right. Yes. It's so fucking hot. Guys, I'm recording from WTF Media Studios, Black-owned studio. I am.
am recording right now with my guest Paige Lorenz we recorded a year and a half ago yeah did the recording and yeah just hit it off you're just a girl's girl I'm super intuitive so I just like know immediately and
When a girl's not. Yeah. And like, it's really rare to find good girls. It is. And you're one of the few. Like, it's not like we've spent a crazy amount of time together, but you're just like one of those girls that I know that would ride for me regardless. 100%. But I want to back up. You were on my podcast a year and a half ago. You had a relationship with Armie Hammer. That was a huge, like...
Public thing. There's a documentary coming out soon about it. Stop. Yeah. So there's a documentary coming out about his whole family. And I've been asked like a lot by the media to comment on it. And I'm in it. Like I think clips of me and the things that I've done and some statements I've made are in it. But I decided to not be a part of it. Why is that?
The situation was traumatic and then like the media aspect of it was super traumatic. I came forward because we'd gone photographed together. There were photos of me on my Instagram that I bruises on me and stuff. People knew. Women were coming forward and I was sitting with my sister. We were beating and my sister's just the best and she's dating a girl. We were just all sitting there. We're sitting there and they were like, yo, like the shit's coming out about ARMY. Like
what do you like did this happen to you and I was like I make a joke out of everything me too but like yeah like this is these are some things he did and my sister and her girlfriend were like Paige like that's not fucking normal yeah and I was like I was like laughing but they're like that's not funny right that's not funny that's not cool that's not kosher that's not safe that's not BDSM like that's just fucking weird and twisted and like he's a sexual deviant
And it took for them to point it out to you. 100%. And that's why people are like, oh, well, like you didn't say it like to begin with. And like you all of a sudden people started getting media attention. Then you, whatever, like jumped on. I go, no, like I had a conversation with my family. And then they were like, Paige, this isn't right. Because I was so manipulated. I was love bombed. I was manipulated. I really thought that it was BDSM. I thought it was just like, I thought there was this community of people that did stuff like this. And I think there is.
but like the way that what you did it was not cool no and I like hadn't had a relationship with that type of like sexual activity so I didn't know what was normal what was not especially when it comes to sex 100% and pushing boundaries and you want to experiment yeah it's hard to know what's
okay and what's not. I also just like wanted to be down. Like I wanted to be a down ass bitch. Of course. I wanted to be like a girl that would and that's like that's something I've learned a lot. Like I've learned I'm a different person. When all that shit happened like I'm a very different person. Like saying no is cool and like being down all the time isn't hot. No. Like I'm not like well
I'm into some stuff. I have things I'm into that's not vanilla. But saying yes to everything is not the move. No. A guy is not going to like you more. No. Because you're the girl that's down to do whatever the fuck you want. And that's what I learned. Because you lose respect for yourself. And that's the most valuable thing. They might be like, wow, cool girl. But when you lose respect for yourself, it doesn't even matter. Yeah. It doesn't even matter. But yeah. What upsets me is the...
public and their opinion and them saying, you're just, you just want attention. Why didn't you say it earlier? Why didn't you say it like this? The crazy thing is we already paparazzi together. Like I didn't gain anything. Like the only thing I gained was like my family having to read that.
Like that's with me forever. Like when I have kids, like that's on the internet. Like I'm not naive. Like that was gnarly. Yeah. It was gnarly. Like for my sex life and my, like that deep, dark shit to come out was like not positive. The fact that the public-
And this is like, this happens all day, every day. When a woman speaks up about being abused in some type of way. Yeah. Society, men in general want to shut it the fuck down and make fun of it and cross it off. Yeah. Because they think we're a joke. Like, yes, it has to be a joke. It has to be. She's trying to get them. It has to be that. And,
How is that you trying to get famous? I'm like, yeah, this is not positive press, guys. You know what it is? I think also he has a really cult following from one of his movies, Call Me By Your Name, which is actually like respectfully like a pretty amazing film for the gay community. And it did a lot for the gay community because there was not a film like that. Mm-hmm.
And that's him. That's not him as a person. That's him as an artist. But the cult following he has from that film with Timothee Chalamet, who was also a cult following, created this gnarly storm of like, fuck this girl, like conspiracy theory, whatever. Like, I'm so this, I'm so that. But I also like, as a confident person, I knew that I have like,
I know why I have a career and it's because I'm good at what I do. And it has nothing to do with that. Nothing. Because so many girls are in the tabloids, but like I've gained and like what I've done has nothing to do with that. Like, and I know that. So I can sleep at night. Of course. You know? Of course. But it is crazy. Like girls are so discredited. I mean, I'm sure even you've dealt with that. A lot of people are a sheet. It's just so crazy knowing you personally. Like honestly, everyone thinks they have like an idea of you. And we all have like, we're almost like, we're all character online.
Right. Anyone who doesn't know you personally, we're just characters to them. But me knowing you personally, like, you're the most, like, the least malicious person I've probably ever met. Believe. Like, you don't walk over people. You're just, like, a sweet, you're a girl's girl. Yeah. Thank you. Like, you really are. Thank you. But you can't fake that. No. Like, you really can't. I want to say thank you, but also, like...
How can I work on being evil? I feel like it's just not in you. It's not. It's just not. But also I think that with time, those people that have stepped over people or anything, they might be killing it now, but it will catch up to them. I really believe that if you've done that to someone and then you made major gains, you're going to pay for it. I don't necessarily believe. I believe in karma in the sense that people that do that
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I did not plan to get deep as fuck. I had a whole different plan for the episode, but... No, let's get into it though. Dating history. The reason I want to talk to you about your dating history is because...
Blonde. New York. What is dating like? Honestly, I don't like New York men. Why? They're the best. What do you mean? Wait, I love that because it will never compete for a man. I want... Honestly, my deal is like a small town, country, like roots, like a husband. But then...
But that like, yeah, you can make it in a city. Like I want my man to like be able to make it in a city. You have to be able to hang here. But I don't like a city boy. Let's compare dating in New York to Kansas to LA. Okay, fine. Let's start with LA. The worst. I would rather be celibate. Oh no. So my vagina is shut. The vagina is closed.
LA, the people that I was partying with in LA, which is like the main group of socialite celebrity influencers. I was on a bender respectfully in LA for about two weeks and they're still on the bender. They're still on that bender four months later.
And I'm like watching the stories and I'm like damn you guys are you guys need to grow up And you guys need to figure it out never get off No, never get off never they're going to the same parties with the same people with the same girls talking the same shit Fucking the same people la is the most incestual place on the face of the earth Everyone's everyone and then the guys complain these girls aren't wifey. I go. What do you mean? You're fucking all the same girls like yeah, you know, right like it's not even their fault
although I don't really like love the girls in LA but I'm like you guys are fucking all the same people and then you're saying they're not wifey men complain they're not wifey yes I've heard that so many times like the girl's on a trophy or like this or that well it's because
I already know. I just came up with this theory. It's going to break the internet. The internet. It's going to be written. It's going to be a fucking study at Harvard. The reason men in LA say women are not wifey material is
is because LA has become so cutthroat, fake, social climbing, beyond belief. Beyond like anything we could have ever imagined. Beyond anything we can comprehend. Yeah. That men are now dealing with women who are on their same level. 100% Kansas.
Kansas like that's where my man is my man wait what I was saying Kansas randomly no I'm not but my man my man that I'm gonna marry is driving an F-150 right now with like a cooler in the back of his truck and he's listening to like Luke Combs and respectfully he's gonna like move to the city for a moment but like that's where he is I mean like if you're wearing the latest shit
If you're wearing Dior sneakers, like I want to buy. You heard it here first. Throw those shits out. Throw them out. But listen, and you know what's even worse is that a lot of the guys with all this designer shit in New York, their dads bought it for them. Oh, 90%. But like there is nothing more sickening to me like than that. But do we like the guy in Kansas with the truck and he doesn't have money? Paige.
Listen. There she goes. There she goes a little bit. Okay. Respectfully, you have to have a goal. Because like I have my bag up. You don't want the Kansas guy to be broke. No, no, no. Don't be like, but have goals. Like it depends. It depends on how broke we're talking. Like I know some like rich rednecks. I tried Nashville. I did. I had a stint. I had a like little...
I had a country stint. Can we talk about that?
Yeah, we just can't mention names. Okay, we won't mention names. You were dating a very country. But you know what? Very famous country man. But you know what? If I'm going to date a country man, like fix my flat tire. Like, can you line dance? The reason why my ex-boyfriend, the Nashville boyfriend, loved me was also the reason why like we didn't work out. He loved me because I was so independent. I tried so hard to make his lifestyle something that I loved. And I was like trying to convince myself because I loved him.
But it was ultimately like I needed to be doing my own thing. Like I couldn't sit on his tour bus. I couldn't sit around and watch him chase his dreams, which were amazing. He was like, he's made history. It's incredible. Like I admire everything he's done, but like I want to make my own history. Like I am my own person. And for like a few months, it was fun.
And then I was just like, I have nothing in me. Like I can't be a groupie forever. No, like, no. And that's what I was. And then like people were calling me that and I would get so offended. And I got offended because I knew that wasn't me, but that's what I was with him. It wasn't sustainable. Like I'm like, I have too much to say. And this might be like a mass generalization, but like the South, I feel like the girls in the South, the girls that I got to know in the South have very toxic relationships. The relationship between a man and a woman in the South is very different and way more misogynistic.
But it was too much. Too much. Yeah. Like I got death threats.
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You've dated a lot of famous people. Yeah. You have. You have. So like Army, Countryman, and then Tyler Cameron was like my last pub. Who else? There's had to be one more. Oh no, my first hockey player. Yeah. And I don't count. Honestly, I don't really count athletes as famous people. Like it.
They want you. They want me. Why don't celebs want me? You're not marketing yourself good enough.
I'm going to hire a new team. Hire me. Hire me. Paige, please. Tyler Cameron. That was a very sickening situation. So, hold on. You guys dated and then he randomly said we broke up. So, this is what happened. For being honest here, I...
I was just starting to slowly become less interested. And he felt the vibes. Well, how'd you guys meet? We met through friends, like at parties. We were going to all the same shit. Okay. Like we're at all the same events. He's like in New York, whatever. We're, we have mutual friends. And I was on it. I was like, this man's a smoke show. Like this man's big and athletic and hot. And he respectfully like,
Good looking dude. And this might sound narcissistic because he has a pretty insane following, but I felt like he was like using me. Really? I don't know. I felt like he wanted like some media storm. Okay. Best compliment ever. No, actually. He was looking at my story views and I was getting more story views than him. And he was like, you know, like he literally word for word said, like, I need a scandal. He was like, I need it. Like joking. But I was like. Okay. So you're the shit. Like literally.
No, no, no. Like, I just think he knows, like, I just dated someone publicly. Like, we have, like, I have some, like, and I don't like that about myself. But, like, I do have some shit in the media about me. Like, there is some, like. Neither do I, babe. No, like, it sucks. But, like, regardless, like, there's a, like, conversation.
especially around my relationships and I think he saw an opportunity not that he didn't like me but I think why he wanted to go public so fast is because he's like launching something soon like a well you had just dated the biggest fucking country star yeah who he's also like a fan of so I bet so but like saying he's like can we play can we play that while we fuck haha
So he, you guys dated. How long did you guys date? A fucking week? Like literally, I don't even count him as a boyfriend. Listen, I believe in dating and then boyfriend and girlfriend. Like respectfully, we were dating. So I was like obviously fizzling out. Like he was getting one word answers from me because I was just like,
Not as into it anymore. And that happens. And it was distance. And like I'm just focused on me. And like my career. And you're listening to your country. And I'm still listening to my. Ex-boyfriend. At my apartment. And. And I just like was not into it. Honestly. Like. Not into it. It happens. Great. Not into it. And. He was just like. I felt bad. Kind of to end it. And I think I also was like. Trying to stay in it. Because he had posted me. On his Instagram. And we were. Went public. And.
I was just not into it. And he was like, you're not giving like what I'm giving. He was like, I'm putting in all of me and you're not even putting in like whatever. A centimeter of it. And what'd you say? And I was like, you're right. Like, I don't have it in me right now to like give you what you need. And like, we should respectfully like walk away from this.
And then literally a day and a half later, he's talking to Pop Daily about like our breakup. And I'm like, you know, I've been through so much shit in the media with my relationships. Like you really didn't have to do that. See, that's it. No, no, it was jank city. Like at that point, I was like,
Like you're really that guy. You're really. And I'm not trying to shit on him because I know like the media like. No, I love him. Daily Mail is going to like pick this up and like take every word like that I'm saying. But it was just really weird because I was like, damn, like these these feelings that I had. And I actually believe it wasn't malicious. Like I actually think he wasn't trying to be like he wasn't trying to hurt me because he still has a lot of respect for me. And like I saw him out at a bar a few weeks ago and he was like, you have such a gift. Like you're very talented, like all good, whatever.
But he like definitely was trying to like stir up some shit and get some press about himself. Why else do you go to Daily Pop a day after a breakup? Like you don't do that. And if I had gone through a breakup and had to do an interview, I would have swerved the question. No comment. How about no comment? Yeah. So I just was bummed because I wanted, I'm working on in my life. Like I
I want to get press. It's just about me being me. Like me as a human being. From your lens and your truth. And like there are projects that I'm doing and like cool shit that I'm doing. And I'm going to like make my own name for myself. But it just sucks because he knew that I was sensitive about the fact that me in the media is me and men. Right?
And I'm so much more than that. Like, cool. Like if a man is involved in any way, blow it up. But like he didn't need to do that. And that's why I like made a comment, which I normally wouldn't do and which obviously escalated it. And then people ran articles on my comment. But I was like,
That was weird as fuck. Like you didn't need to go to the media. Like we could have waited a few weeks and like had them figure it out. Like we didn't need to give them all of our cards. Right. This is weird and intrusive. And like, you didn't ask me. Okay. That's also my thing. When an article comes out, there can be a comment from both parties. The only thing that was out there was his comment.
Why didn't you guys talk about, hey, how should we approach? No, he didn't do that. He just went to some sketchy ass, like, whatever. And I texted him and I was like, what was that? And he was like, I didn't do anything wrong. And I was like, I didn't even respond. I was like, whatever. Like, you obviously don't get it. And that's fine. But this is like, I shouldn't even be surprised. Yeah. Do you know any money you think that you could see me with?
Ooh. I like athletes. Okay. Jay Cutler. I swear to God, I can see it right now. I just did an interview with him. Wait, that's what I think my friend Bridget sent me, a clip from your podcast, and was like, wait, why do I see you marrying this man? You guys, like... Is he my soulmate? I think so. Fuck. Jay? Jay? You heard it here first. I'm literally DMing him right now. Yes, on air. Say...
I guess we're soulmates. I've been told by five people. But don't get too excited because like I don't really like to date. Mindfuck. No, I love. That's literally a type of shit I would write. I heard we are soulmates.
From two of my closest friends. Okay. But I am not looking for anything serious. That's insane. Let me know. Hi, Sophia. Dude, how brilliant. Give me one famous person. I'm sorry, Albert. I want to hear one famous person you've DM'd. Albert Einstein, move aside because I'm here. People want to study my brain. One famous person I have. Wait, I just fucked up. I've done send it and be that bitch. I said, I spelled something wrong. Why?
Okay, well, you know what? I hope he responds within the time we're recording because I just sent him a message. Jay Cutler, I'm on to you. Jay. Although I've been kind of like talking to someone. You are? Yeah. Okay, but. He's an athlete. That's fine. I'm super into it. Let's see which one's better. Let's look at their stats. Let's compare them. Yeah, like does Jay have stats or does he have like podcast episodes? Dude, I don't even watch sports, but I feel like that would be like the most obnoxious thing to say. Okay.
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Okay, Paige, we went through so much. Your entire dating profile. I wanted to ask you about...
Fashion, fucking skiing, like so much shit, but fascinating. Everything. A lot of good stuff. And within the relationships you've had, I feel like we've learned lessons, you know? A lot of life lessons. A lot. So we're going to move on now to SOS, Save Our Sleuths. Question, stories, advice from my listeners. Love.
Are you ready? I love your listeners. Yeah. They're the fucking best and they're obsessed with you. Okay. First question. Okay.
Hey, Sophia, how do you surprise your man outside of the bedroom? What are subtle things you can say to him or nicknames you can use to make him feel sexy slash spice things up? I don't think there's a nickname you can call a guy. That's sexy. No. No. You can call him daddy. Big cock. Daddy. You can call him daddy. Zaddy.
Like, boss. Zaddy's like very, Zaddy's almost like trolling, I think. Yeah. I think, I think, girl, stay away from the nickname, but there are things you can say outside the bedroom. What I like to do is like, if we go on a date or we go to brunch, I'm like, you look like, you look so handsome. Exactly. Like, you look insane. Like, you look so handsome. I love this outfit. But,
But like you have to be strong and confident. I'm like, oh my like baby looks so fucking sweet. Yeah. You look handsome as fuck. Compliment him on his look. Yeah. But don't be dumb. Like when he looks like shit, don't say he's the most handsome person. No. Also, love languages. Nine times out of ten, every single guy I've had take the love languages test. Yeah.
Physical touch is our top one or top two or top three. So I think even though it's outside the bedroom, squeeze his bicep. 100%. Like you go to the bathroom at dinner, you come back to the table,
Touch his back. Yes. Touch his shoulders. Legs. As you're like sitting down, like touch him. Over the pants handjob. 100%. Make him come over his head. When you're in a relationship with someone, you should be a slut. The slut should never die. Even if you're not like feeling the over the pants handjob, fucking do it. 100%. You'll thank us later. Yes.
So she said outside of the bedroom nicknames. Don't call him shit. Just make him come. Literally don't call him shit. That's a great. That's the best advice. Okay, next. Hi, Sophia. Let's just get into it. How can I suck my man's balls? He always says it's too sensitive. I have never in my day.
Sucked a ball? Bitch, I have sucked balls. No, I've definitely sucked a ball or two. I've never heard a man say that he was too sensitive. So that's very fascinating. Do you like sucking balls? Or do you know how to suck balls? Absolutely not. But do I suck them? Yeah. Okay. But honestly, like I've seen some weird balls. Really? Yeah. Like there are definitely some nicer ones in my day. My thing is, is I think that
If and this might be I don't know if you're doing this, but for me, if I'm giving a good blowjob, it means the whole area is wet. Yeah. If the balls aren't wet from the blowjob. This is why she dates celebrities, people. Here she goes. Go off. Here she goes. Here's the secret. OK, if you're giving head and the whole fucking cock balls isn't wet.
You need to learn how to suck dick. You should, like, get off and take it out. Back to the drawing board. Yeah. Like, make that shit wet. So, it actually isn't that hard to suck balls when they're already wet. If they're dry and weird and creepy, yeah, that shit's kind of weird. Yeah. But, like, suck the dick for long enough where it's, like—
Like, you're spitting on it enough where, like, that shit's already wet. Yeah. So, you're just, like, licking down from the shaft. Yes. To the balls. Because the dick actually goes, like, underneath the ball. Like, it's weird. Like, the anatomy of it. Like, that actually goes down to their ass. Yes. So, like, lick all the way down and then, like, get to the balls. But the balls specifically, this pussy, her boyfriend...
He has sensitive balls. Girl, you might want to like rethink that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I've never heard a dude say that. But if he's saying that, I would say don't, don't suck on them. Just lick. Lick. Tip of the tongue. That's the, that's the advice. If he's so sensitive. If you took anything from this podcast episode, lick balls. Do not suck. Suck after. Tip of the tongue. Tip of the tongue. If he's a man and he can handle it. Put them all in your mouth. If you're a
two balls in your mouth at once i yes and i i feel like men don't like that i think i think the goal is to have one in your mouth and hold the other and switch okay i think when you put both in your mouth it's like bitch stop flexing like right enough do less do less queen do way less my queen my queen please
Please, we get it. You've sucked a dick before. Like, enough. Like, we don't need to see all this. Enough is enough.
Enough is enough. No, but I've heard if the two balls are in the mouth close together, it's super sensitive. So do love. I'll let you know tonight. Who are you showing off for? Okay, next question. Hi, Sophia. I have been with my partner for 12 years, married for four. We're both in our early 30s. My question is about F.
non-monogamy I am not sure if it is related to my ADHD my therapist thinks it is but I really want to experiment with it my husband is not interested at all any advice is it time for divorce or do I just suck up this feeling and live this monogamy life until I'm 90 but
We have a five-year-old too. So this adds a layer of difficulty. I'm thinking about all the times I cheated. And I'm like, if I could just say I have ADHD, I just write it off. I mean, maybe there is some like medical clinical, you know, connection. I don't know. That's a wild question. I'm kind of a traditional woman. So the man that I marry is like, I'm,
threesomes fun you're into those yeah okay i don't know if my husband and i are gonna we'll see like maybe but i think that that that can be a way to bring people in and spice things up without you know as long as the girl's in charge without like disheveling your relationship because listen like those relationships where like you're open and you're fucking other people like the reality is is that ever worked
actually like i haven't heard of it actually working it's always messy as fuck but also closed marriages don't work i none of it works like let me know we're all fucked on like literally like literally we're all fucked yeah but i think back to this girl's fucking question i actually don't have a good answer for her i want you to answer excited i mean she says i want to explore a
I love how she says ethical non-monogamy. If you're feeling that way, your husband is not, and you're saying, should I just bottle it up or should I leave him? You're going to end up
leaving him or being shady that's what i'm saying like so maybe he's just not your guy and you just get a divorce yeah because i think you bottling it up yeah i mean two years from now you're gonna be on the side of the road getting a gang bang 100 it's only downhill from there like like is your if your vibrator is not doing it for her like she's yeah
If you want it that bad, he says no. I mean, try it out for like a year, but like you're going to get bored. You're going to wonder and you're going to stray. Yeah. So, I mean, I think actually that was really smart, though. Offer the threesome.
Let's try that first. Let's try that. Divorces are expensive. Let's look at the cheap route. Right. I think for every divorce that happens, I think legally... Legally, there has to be one threesome. Legally, there needs to be a threesome and then you can do the divorce papers. Period. Right? I feel like threesomes could save marriages. I agree. Paige, you are fascinating, brilliant, gorgeous. You shared...
So much information. I love you so fucking much, Paige. Where can they find you? So if you go to my Instagram, you'll see it all. You'll see my podcast, my brand. But I'm Paige Lorenz and...
I love you guys. I've actually wanted to say this. I've gotten hundreds of messages from your first podcast episode with me in it about the army situation. So many women saying, thank you for going on her podcast. Like I found you through a podcast that like just telling me their stories through the platform that you gave me and like the voice you gave me through yours. So I feel like a lot of girls that are probably listening like from that first episode, like know who I am, but like, I appreciate you for that. And that was cool. And yeah.
Yeah, I love you guys. And thank you if anyone sent me a message about like the first episode. It was really sweet. And I saw I see it all. Unfortunately, I see it all. But yeah, yeah, I love you. And thank you for having me on. Okay, guys. Love you. Love you.
