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It's Sophia Franklin. You are listening to Sophia with an F, and the F is for phenomenal. This podcast is rated F. I think deep down, I probably knew there was no future. We didn't even talk about the future. I don't know what's going on. I remember all the girls in the house would be like, girl, like, stand up. I'm like, stand up to who? He told me he's interested. But he likes me. He has to be my boyfriend forever. Like, that man does not like you. I'm like, oh, whatever.
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The clap. I've had that before and that's not a joke. And that's an amazing way to start the episode, actually. By the way, the clap is chlamydia and all you have to do is take a pill and it gets rid of it. No, I don't think the clap is chlamydia. I think it's gonorrhea. Not even kidding. Because I feel like I've said that before and everyone's like, gonorrhea isn't even a thing anymore.
wrong std i'm fucking dead right now i was about to just play that off just like it ain't you're like we've all had to clap yeah everyone's like no i haven't had gonorrhea dude i mean not that gonorrhea is necessarily worse but like i was really just about to like let that fly i feel like you got gonorrhea in like a dark forest somewhere i do too i think it's because lil wayne's song like
Whatever. He, like, talks—I think it's called gonorrhea. His song is called gonorrhea? It was an old— People aren't getting away with anything these days. They really are. Also, this was actually back in the day, that song. Micah— Oh, by the way. Micah. Hey. Thank you so much for being here. Micah, you guys know her from The Perfect Match or Love is Blind. Yeah.
And should we just dive in? Yeah, let's do it head first. Head first. I like that. Why is it so sexual? Like all of a sudden this episode. I'm like, great. It's been a while for both of us. So it's been I haven't had sex since I broke up with my ex.
No, me too. And that was three months ago. I haven't had sex in this country in like two years. I love in this country. So like other countries though. Well, yeah, that doesn't count. It doesn't. Exactly. I like that rule. I know. It's a good rule. If you put a few in place, like you can just look back and you're like, I'm actually still a virgin. You just have to place the right rules. That is fantastic. Honestly,
see the way guys are with like body count and shit like we have to make up rules like that yeah they're so fucking crazy if my tip pops up I'll just let me know I'll just let it go it's the tune of the episode actually yeah you're like I kind of like it um let's start with love is wine okay I don't even know there's like so fucking much I want to okay in the pods the pods oh my god what is the experience like in the pods
Um, I mean, it's so weird because I feel like even looking at the show, like from an outside perspective, I'm like, what are these people doing? Are they literally kidding? But when you're in there, it's so intense and so real. The emotions are like so heightened that you're kind of just like losing your mind. But it's like, it's the way they set up. It's like very experimental. Like it's giving. Ooh, like dystopian kind of black mirror. It is kind of black mirror actually when you think about it. I feel like now the show is like so known that it,
It's not that weird. But if like people didn't know what's happening and then they walked in and that was happening, they'd be like, what the fuck? That is such a good point. Like if you showed up. If my grandma saw that. No, they put your grandma in a pod. She'd be like, what the fuck is going on?
I fear I must go. Like, this is crazy. No, it's not. So it's super intense. Like, what makes it intense, would you say? I mean, it's like the longest hours. Like, you're talking—like, by the end of it, you start dating less people and you date for, like, longer periods of time. And, like—
By the end, the dates were six hours. Like, you're there and you're there all day and night because you have the option to stay if you want at night. And then you kind of have to because otherwise you, like, fall behind. Right, right, right. Yeah. So it's just, like, around the clock. And he literally asked me to please not to ever talk about him on a podcast. And here I am. Okay, perfect. Let's talk about him. We were probably hanging out for two hours. Yeah.
That was exhausting. Two hours total. Yeah. And I was like, I need you to go now. It's time for me to be by myself. Yeah. Yeah, no, that wasn't a thing. But I fear that when I— I'll go on a first date. The date's 15 hours long. And I don't know if this has happened from like love is blind, but I do not stop.
I'm like, okay, well, we're next. So, okay, so since you were on Love is Blind, like now when you're like dating out in the world, like you keep it going. I've gone on dates like that too. There's definitely alcohol involved. Yeah. It's like a little bit bender kind of. Yeah, you're at the 47th bar and you're like, whoa, we're in love. You're just like.
You're Dave and Buster's in Times Square. And you're like asking if we can get Molly. I fear this is a personal experience. At 11 a.m. And then I ended up dating that person for two years. That was like really fun and cute. And that was our first date. Yeah, you should have known it was going to be a good one from that point on. Right? Yeah. That just, that screams stable, normal relationship. Yeah, it does. Right there.
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Actually, that's so accurate. Why do I always have like the worst first dates and then I date that person for like several years? And I'm like, I knew that very night that that was not a good way to start. Why do we do that? I don't know. Literally one of the last guys I dated on the first date, I was, I showed up two hours late.
We got hammered. I cried about my ex, who I had just broken up with days prior. He cried about someone in his family had passed. We cried for like three hours, and then we just dated for two years. Like, at that point, just go your separate ways. Like, please. Like, if we're bringing this out of each other, just like right off the bat. But maybe it showed...
how compatible you guys are. I mean, that's what we told ourselves. Yeah, right, right, right. We literally hated each other. No, it was so bad. I kind of do it because I just let whoever shows me, like, interest and is persistent. I'm like, okay. No, same. I was actually talking, oh my god, no, I was talking to my friends the other day. We're the same person. I'm, like, kind of, I'm kind of getting the vibe. No, literally. Like, I feel like if someone is into me and they want to date me, I'm like, okay, cool, so we shall date. But I don't think that's how it's supposed to be.
You want to date? I want to date somebody. So let's just fucking do it. You're here. You're willing. Let's go. Let's force it. I know. At least, you know, marriage. But when I have a husband, it probably will be similar. No, I can't go through a divorce. I was thinking about the other day. It's like, I cannot go through a divorce. I'm not strong enough.
I feel like I am strong enough. I'm already planning on it. You're like, okay, so when I get divorced, the divorce party shall be actually. Okay. Dating Paul. Since we're speaking of dating. Yeah. What didn't we see?
I mean, he's the guy that was crying for two hours. No, I don't think I've ever seen Paul, like, shed a tear. I don't know if he has those, those ducts. Like, I don't think I ever saw him cry. It was not him. The no tear ducts is fucking hilarious. And I, like, want to start using that. He, like, got them removed. Yeah. Um.
No, I mean, Paul and I actually had like a good relationship. But I think the thing that made us as close as we were when we decided to like be together is because we're both just in similar places in life. And like while we were looking for something, it wasn't like if I did not marry someone, it's over for me. We both took it serious to an extent, but it wasn't like life or death. And I feel like our attitudes were very similar. And that's what kind of made us a match. Right, right. Yeah. I mean, how many relationships have you entered where you're like...
a hundred percent like this is marriage or nothing. Do people do that? I don't know. I haven't even like found anyone normal in like
You're like, ever? No, I'm like, has there ever been? No, but I don't know. We were just like very similar. Like people, we talked about stuff, but like not to the extent that other people were. Like we were like playing games. I was like drawing like flowers in my journal and like people were like writing down like their like entire life plan. And we were kind of just like more enjoying, trying to like enjoy each other. And that's kind of,
you know, what it turned out to be. Like, it ended up being, like, more of a short-term thing. But we definitely really liked each other. And, like, we got along really well. Right. Yeah. So, when he left you at the altar, that whole thing. Yeah. Oh, my God. That was so bad. Yeah.
Oh, my God. I love that. Oh, my God. That was so bad. How did you feel in that moment? I'm sure you've talked about this so many times. I know. I'm like, wait, this happened? I've lived like 15 different lives since then. You're like, I was drawing flower and like it was just lighthearted and there was nothing. And then he left you with the altar. How do you feel? I'm like, well, that sucked. I don't know. I haven't thought about it in a while. Baby girl, that's the thing about having your fucking life just for public, like, you're
People bring up shit to me and I am not putting myself in the same box. Reality TV is totally different. But people bring shit up to me that I said or did like five years ago and I'm like…
Okay. We don't even need to bring that up and I don't remember that. I don't even know who that is. I don't even know who that girl is. I feel like especially this time in your life, I feel like everything is so—you change so much so quickly based on the rapid experiences that you're going through. It's just such a—this part of your 20s is so—
You're just changing so much. And so it's like I think back to that and I'm like, I don't even know who that was. Right. No, it was crazy. So are you like kind of disassociated from it a little bit? Kind of. I feel like Love is Blind though, it put – it was kind of where I started. So people know me from that. And it's like you kind of get a baseline for someone –
you know, like first impression. And it's like, that's like what you think of. And so unfortunately, in some ways, it's like I've had to like build my brand off of that character. Right. Because they kind of portrayed you as a mean girl. Yeah. Quote unquote. Yeah.
And how did you feel about that portrayal? Obviously, actually, I can. Actually, you don't even need to tell me I'm sitting next to you and I can feel vibes and vibes don't lie. And like, you're just you're not a mean girl. No, I know. I yeah, I mean, it's it definitely sucked. And I think at first, since I was so shocked, it's like I was in those situations and like
I know in my heart I didn't do anything that was actually mean. So seeing it be portrayed as mean was really sad. And I was shocked. I couldn't have seen it coming because once again, I was there in person. And it was just like, it really sucked. But it's like, you know, reality is each person's like perception. Let them have it. And like, I know what's real and what's not. Like, I'll ground myself in my reality. And that's just what it is. Period. Period.
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So, but I mean, it's hard, though. It's like, I hate like seeing things like that. Oh, don't forget. She was a mean girl. It's like, no, I wasn't. It's like, and also anyone that was there in those moments also know, know that. Know the truth. And so it's just like, oh, like you weren't even there. Like, you don't know. But it's like, I don't know. I definitely, you know, there's mistakes that were made or immaturity that was shown. But it's like, I've never intentionally been mean to someone. I just literally have not.
honestly though I feel like especially when it comes to reality TV like you can be the mean girl I see this every reality show it's like she was a mean girl and then now she's like the the most loved one and he was the playboy and now he's like it's constantly changing oh for sure and it's gosh it's like it's so aggressive like I even still like I don't watch like a ton of like reality TV but like
even lately, like I've been super into like Love Island, right? And so I'm like reading comments like through things and like seeing like TikToks and I'm like,
Oh my God. Like things have gotten way out of hand here in the internet. In terms of how people react? Yeah, no, it's crazy. It's like I even like I'll see someone like getting, I don't even know if it's about it or I'll see someone just like going through it in the media and I'm like that sucks because that could just literally not be what's even happening. Like that sucks. It's the worst feeling in the entire, and you and I have both felt it to some degree and it fucking sucks. But similar to you, I just had to get to a point where I'm like, yeah.
People, they'll always have something to say, you know? For sure. And like it doesn't come naturally to be able to like let it roll off your back. But if we're going to put ourselves in this situation, then we have to. We're going to have to try to make it a little more natural somehow. No, literally. So after that experience…
You fucking, you were like the perfect match. Yeah. Let's do another ginormous reality show. Here we go. Yeah, no, I was like, yeah, let me throw myself back out there. But like this time in a bikini, like that would be fun. Like, I don't know what I was thinking, but I was like, whatever, I'm just going to do it.
And I'm happy I did. I mean, it was definitely a risk because it could have gone like two ways. It could have been like, oh my gosh, double down on how we felt about her previously or like potentially been like a opportunity for people to kind of see like how I actually am or like get a sense of my personality. And like luckily for me, like it was the latter. But it was definitely a risk. Yeah. But you had the bikini on. I did have the bikini on. So it was like whatever came out of your mouth, it was like null and void. I was like…
No, I was like spilling out of my bikini and everyone was models. I was like, this is crazy. I was like, the vastness of this is like too much. But it was fun. I mean…
being on just being in a bikini in general like at a house party no and you being in one on TV but you probably just got used to it I don't know how I did that like I was thinking about like this like I was even watching like to bring you back to Love Island like obviously I'm obsessed I'm like looking at these girls walk around in these swimsuits and I'm like oh my god I could never like the angles and they just all look perfect I'm like I like want to stand up and show how I'd walk like if you were to walk at Love Island I swear to god I would be like with yeah I would be like just
Just like crawling across the street. And like with my back arch. Okay, these pants are not. Everyone's like, are you? They're like, can you hurry up? Like we're trying to do something over here. And you're like. Sorry, I had to do the walk. I'm sorry. And I had to get her opinion. No, it's so real. I give up so quickly. Like I remember like I would come downstairs and some of the girls would be like, oh my, when are you planning on getting ready? And I'm like, I am ready. And they're like, what? Right. I was like, no, this is it. I could only keep that up for like a week. No, it's bad. For real. No, same. Um.
Was there anyone in reality dating, like, in the reality dating world that you hoped to be cast on the show? Like, was there anyone you were, like, secretly hoping? Like, for Perfect Match?
I didn't like really know. I couldn't like think of someone. And that was like part of the process of Perfect Match is they want there to be people that are interested in each other. So you like are supposed to like say a bunch of people. And I was like, shit, like I honestly don't know. And I can only think of, I kept saying like Cole from Love is Blind. But I'm like, wait, that's just like Paul point two. So I don't know. I think I was like still confused. But when I walked in, I was like looking around. I was like, hmm.
I was like, fuck. I was like... So, like, what the fuck is... Like, these were the cards I was dealt type shit? I mean, kind of. And it's like... Like Harry Jowsey, I'd be like, gross. No. That's a personal thing. I don't even know if Harry and I even, like, uttered words to each other. That doesn't surprise me. No, like, I'm not kidding. He... Like, I honestly... I don't even have anything bad to say about him because everything nasty is already out there. So, it's like, just go read and that's, like, actually accurate. Yeah. So, it's like...
It's nothing for me to say, but, like, it definitely—we were not, like, I wouldn't say we were friends. You guys weren't besties. We weren't besties. And I think it's because, like, everyone, like, genuinely was, like, licking his asshole. And I just, like, did not care. I could totally see that. Like, the politics within the house. Yeah. For sure. And I didn't—I, like, did not get it. Yeah. I was like, okay. Yeah, I was like, I'm just trying to stay afloat here. Like, I don't have time for this. I'm trying to stay afloat in this bikini right now. No, I'm like— My bikini's, like, falling off, and I needed—
I need to find a man. I got a lot of time. Okay, so now that you're, like, a little bit distanced from filming, how would you describe your journey on this show? I mean, I guess you kind of explained it. Yeah. It was like, you're testing the waters. Would you do it again? I mean, maybe. I just think at this point, I'm, like, pretty much banned from, like, Netflix dating shows. Like, it just quite literally doesn't work for me. Mm.
I think, no. Never say never. Oh, I never say never. I mean, I'll pull up. I'll do it with you. Should we? I don't know if I'm like cut out for it.
I'm not, but, like, I was still there. You still gave it a go. Yeah. Round three, perhaps? I feel like if I'm with you, then, like, I could really feel safe. Yeah, no. Yeah, I'll protect you. I mean, I can't protect myself, but, like, I'll do my best. We'll both be delusional as fuck. Yeah. Just, like, with each other. They, like, literally hate us, and we're, like, so, like, marriage. We would be portrayed as the worst. Like, just the—I can already hear it in my voice. Definitely not crowd favorite. Yeah.
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Okay, your relationship with Kaz. Yeah, oh my gosh. I mean...
I don't even... I feel like everything's, like, been said at this point, but... People ask you that all the time. Yeah, and I mean, like, I feel like everyone just, like, flocked. Like, the whole cast just, like, flocked to, like, talk about everything. I feel like everything's so, like, talked about, but it's, like...
I just don't care. Like at all. I really liked him. I don't, I think deep down, I probably knew there was no future. I mean, he lives in London and I'm sure he plans on staying there. I don't even know. We didn't even talk about the future. I don't know what's going on. I just knew that he was like, he was my favorite person there, like by far. And I wanted to be with him there. There was no one else I was even remotely interested in.
That's just what it was. So I'm going to stick beside him. I mean, it's like, yeah. I remember all the girls in the house would be like, girl, like, stand up. Like, if you don't stand up, like, this is ridiculous. I'm like, stand up to who? Wait, what does that mean, stand up? Just, like, leave him. Oh, oh, oh, got it. Like, don't give him another chance. But you're like, but he, like, he told me he's interested. But he likes me. So he has to be my boyfriend forever. But we like each other. They're like...
That man does not like you. I'm like, oh, whatever. I don't know. It was honestly fun. Like, obviously, you got to see a lot of the parts where, like, it was, like, drama and fighting and crying. But we had a lot of fun together. We were always laughing. We had, like, a ton of, like, inside jokes. Like, we just enjoyed each other's company. Yeah. And it's, like, it is a little unfortunate that that was definitely outshined by, like, all the negatives. Like, the split. Like, the split and the fights and, like, all the other girls and, like, whatever. But...
I mean, it is what it is. I honestly don't regret it. But from your point of view, like, it wasn't this, like, horrible, like, horrifying experience. No, like, I definitely really liked him. I thought he was super cute. I thought he was really funny. I think he's a great guy, just not a great guy for me. Mm-hmm. Like, I mean, do your thing. If he's not a great guy for you, he's just not a great guy. And that's Sophia saying that. I'm allowed to say that. Yeah, I mean—
I don't think he's probably ready to be in like a serious relationship and like how he is and the way that he moves. But like that's on him. It has literally nothing to do with me. Like go to UK. I'm over here. He's in London. Yeah. Stay over there. And you're in LA. Yeah. I feel that. Yeah. So what is like – do you have something in the books? Like what's your plan now?
With, like, what? Guys? Well, I was going to say just, like, work. But I'm actually more interested in the guy thing because I'm— It's more fun to talk about guys. We should go on double date. And it is way more fun. Double dates are so fun. We'd probably just, like, get up to each other the whole time. It would be a, like, disaster, but so good. So you're not dating anyone? No, I've, like, been kind of, like, casually seeing people, but not dating anyone. Not Kaz. Not Kaz.
Fuck no. What?
What the hell? It's like, you couldn't pay me. But, I mean, I think for now I'm going to stay away from Netflix reality. Really? I mean, there's no one I'm interested in. It's like, it also feels so, like, immature. Not immature. I don't even know. It's like very high school. Like, even just like the way it's like very catty. And like, I feel like everyone's like intertwined. And it's just like not, I just don't care enough. Yeah. So, I'm going to move.
Never say the show ever, ever, ever. I went through like this process to be on a reality show.
And I like made it to like the final round and how to like meet with like the executive and da-da-da-da. Oh my god. It is kind of in limbo right now. What advice do you have for me? Like don't fucking do it. No, do it. Run it. Life is so short. Run it. Yeah. Who cares? I mean if you feel like you want to do it, try it. You don't like it, leave. Like why not? I'm obsessed with you. I'm like why not? I'm like…
We're going to dinner after this. Like, I fucking love you. It's fun. It's like, it just adds to the storyline at this point. Yeah. And also, I've already gotten so much horrifying feedback and press and whatever. It's like, I don't think anything could really phase
Wait, why is that so true? That's kind of how I felt after leaving Love Is Mine. I was like, I was dragged through the absolute trenches. It's like, what else could really happen? No, literally. I don't know. We're soldiers. That's what we are. Nothing, like, fazes me. Like, I'll see, like, something come out. Like, someone will, like, drop some...
tea, you're like, do something. I'm just like, I just, I don't care. Yeah. Like, do your thing. Yeah. Get your five minutes, I guess. I feel the exact same way. In fact, I don't read anything. I don't even know how to read anymore. I don't turn that off. That's actually really, I can't read for more than 10 seconds. I can tell you that. Yeah. Micah, you are so fucking cute. I love you. Obviously, this was like a shorter episode. Yeah. Some shit.
LA traffic had the city slow. I don't know what rap song that's from, but. Oh my gosh, you and your rap clothes. I know. What is up with me today? I came in the airport. I came in the airport. So like, whatever.
We're doing our best. And also, I usually wear sweats, but I don't know. I decided to. The contrast is wild here. I kind of like it. Yeah. And we'll do a flip-flop when we start our podcast. By the way, that was going to be the grand reveal. Micah, where can everybody find you? I mean, dinking around LA. No, I'm just kidding. So, you know, IG, MicahPierreLussier, TikTok, just…
farting around like not good at it but still trying you're killing it also if you guys want to oh okay my ipod what the fuck this is all i've had and i haven't even finished this one seltzer you guys know where to find me sophia than at franklin with a y if you haven't yet subscribed to the youtube and sleuths i'll talk to you next week bye
