Multiple Orgasms & Are You Actually Into Him? 01:03:05

Okay, so last night, I had sex, and... Okay, wait a... What's happening to my face? Congrats on the sex, sorry. Sorry, it's the last night I went home with my husband. Welcome back to another episode of Mean Girl Pod, presented by Pink Whitney. I'm Jordan. I'm Alex, and Pink Whitney is the perfect shot to get your night started, and your life started, and your week started. Have you shot your shot lately? I have shot my shot.

Tell us. Okay, so I'll just give you a little hint because we're going to be talking about it more into the pod. But I would like to say I more so asked a guy out on a date. Because what have we learned at this pod? That regret is worth the rejection. Yes, regret. Thank you, Alana. Regret is always worse than rejection. So shoot your shot. Shoot your shot. Did you shoot your shot? I did shoot my shot. I... Yeah. Yeah.

I learned a lot about myself, which I'll talk to you about. Okay. I dropped the barriers and realized that the superficial things, well, I kind of had a feeling this would happen. Those aren't my thing. And the mundane day-to-day life feels better. We're doing a lot of foreshadowing here. Yeah, we are. So I think we just need to get into it. Let's go. But yeah, make sure to keep shooting your shot. It's now Shock Girl Fall. Like, what?

Not Shot Girl Summer anymore. It's Shot Girl Fall. And keep tagging us in your Pink Whitney photos. And remember to order Pink Whitney at your local bar. Let's do it. And send that shot to the girl or guy that you have a crush on. How was your three-day weekend? It was nice. I went to visit my parents one last time in Rhode Island before they moved back to Florida. And it was nice. We didn't do anything. We really just went to the beach and relaxed. And it was great.

It was what I needed. I wish I would have gotten more rest. I've just been having a little bit of issue sleeping lately. But other than that, it was just nice to get away from the city. What's the sleeping issue? I can't turn my mind off. Okay, that's what it is. There's always something, and it's that. I literally just can't turn my mind off. And then I also have this issue, which I've struggled with since I was a child. If I wake up at 6 a.m., I can't go back to sleep. Yeah, you are an early bird. Early bird. Catching that worm. I know. Yeah, that's you. I know. What?

Well, I know that one time when you were like, it's so sad you didn't text me in the morning. I'm like, well, once upon a time ago, my therapist told me that I do need to set boundaries with when I text people in the morning. So I was trying to do that. But then when you gave me the approval, I was like, fuck it, I'm going to keep texting you. Well, when I turn, so I don't turn my phone over until after I read and journal, which is usually like 840. PM? AM. In the morning. Yes. You can blow me up and then I don't see it.

until it's turned over and I'm ready to let the world in. God, your self-control is amazing. It's addicting. Like, to do, like, it was really hard to do the first week, but once I did it, I was like, okay, I can do this. But then I stopped seeing your name pop up and then I was like, oh. It's kind of like when you have a boyfriend and they always wish you, or say, or...

say good morning to you and then one day they don't and you're like why didn't you and they're like I don't know because I'll see you today and you don't necessarily respond but like you love getting the text yeah yeah like I would I think I took them for granted because I wasn't replying to them necessarily always but just know I loved it's like you want the invite you don't want to go you want to be invited I love that yeah I wanted the text okay I'll keep texting I love giving you guys morning updates how was your weekend it was lovely I went back to LA where I

I lived. How long again? I lived, well, I lived in California. I lived in Newport Beach for two years, LA for one. And what it reminded me was I was doing this hike that I used to do every day. And I was thinking sometimes it's not where you are, but it's how far you've come. Like I was being so hard on myself. Guys. No, I was just about to say, I love that. It's just so funny. Like when I know you're about to hit us with some freaking like Ray Dunn shit. Face like I want to start

I was crying too. Oh, you were? Oh my God. I need to clean it. Go on. How can I

Oh, can I keep going on? I do love that. Say that again. Yeah. Okay. But I was like, sometimes you're so hard on yourself and you're like, what the fuck are you doing? And then I'm like, remember where you were a year ago. Like, it's not where we're at right literally now. It's like, where, how far have you come? And then you're like, dang, like I've come a long way. We're like so hard on ourselves in the day to day. A hundred percent. I saw a quote the other day on Instagram that was similar to that, where it was like,

just because you aren't where you thought you'd be doesn't mean you failed. Yes. As long as you're trying and you're getting there. I was like, you just need to hear that. Were you unhappy in LA? No, I wasn't unhappy in LA, but I was in that phase of corporate. But then LA is where I quit my job and started making TikToks. And so it kind of had this special place in my heart of like getting rid of...

I had to get over this like life that I thought I was supposed to have of working like a nine to five and then being like, what do you want to do? And then like doing it and feeling like an idiot, feeling like a fucking idiot for like three months. People that I knew we've talked about, I'm following you. Like that's that moment for me. That's that hike. I would go on it. And sometimes I would cry on the hike, but I'd be like, I know I want to do this. So it's a special place for me. But I will say this. A lot of people are like, are you new New York or LA? I'm so New York. It was so nice landing back here and being like, I love where I live.

Do you guys love loving where you live? It's so special. I think we talked about it a few weeks ago where this is the first place that I get excited to come back home to after vacation. Yes, landing on the airplane. You're like, oh, yeah. Like in Minnesota, I would be like, I do not want to go back. I'm dreading it. I have the anxiety of going back. And I'm like, get me back to New York now. Yeah, it's like electric. I have a question for you.

Now it's an episode. We missed that last week. I know. So would you? I'm just like, you didn't ask Alex a question. And I go, I don't. You know how when it's in your head, you don't want to annoy people? Right. That's how I feel. But you, Missy, returned a very beautiful item. I did. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you have to follow us on everything so you can see. Yes. I, ever since I was like a senior in high school, I remember my mom wanting to buy something and my dad being like, ugh, or something. Yeah.

So in my head, I was like, you know what we're going to do, Alex? We are going to make enough money and go one day, walk into a store and buy whatever bag you want. Because I think she wanted a purse. So I think that's why it was the purse for me. Yeah. So I feel like as like a female, that's just like kind of like a staple. Like you made it your girl boss. If you can buy the purse. Yeah. Not really the suit or anything. It's like the purse. Yeah. So I was like, I want to be able to go on Rodeo drive and buy any bag I want.

So I bought, so I went to Rodeo Drive. I walked into Louis Vuitton. I bought this purse. It was very pretty. It was beautiful. It was like this nude bag. It was my dream to do that. I left. I was like, we got back. And Graham's like, you can take it out of the box. I'm like, maybe. So I'm like, finally take it out of the box. I think I should be. And I was excited that I was able to do it. Like I did, I got teary eyed. And I was like, this is so cool that I could do it. But then I left. And I like took it that, I did, I carried it that night. And you can, I checked online. You can carry it three days. And you have 30 days to return it.

I carried it that night and I was like, wait, what do you mean you can carry it for three days? How do they know? Like they just like, it can't be like worn. Got it. So, and so I was like, I don't like this bag. I feel nothing towards this bag. And then I was saying how it's like when you hit the goal,

When you have a goal and then you hit it, you feel nothing. Like the best part of buying the bag was this summer where we were working hard. Like it was the action of doing it. That's what felt so good. Actually achieving it felt terrible. I was like, oh, this is it. This is what I wanted so badly. Like I did go back and I got another one, but I was like, it was cheaper. It was half the price and I just like loved it. And by that point it was like over.

But it was like, all I wanted to do was come back to work. Like, I enjoy the process of it so much more of actually hitting the goal. Yeah. You know, like we build these things up in our head and it's like really the best things, like the little month, like my favorite part of LA was having breakfast and leaving my phone in the room.

It's funny because in life, everything that you usually enjoy are the things you have no expectations for. Yes. Because every time you have a high expectation, it lets you down. If you set like a goal or you like really strive for something, it always goes back to your Instagram photo. You posted that because you wanted to. Yeah. Not because you were trying to prove anything. It's just like...

Time and time again, especially with this job, which I know a lot of people don't understand, but like it's kind of the same thing as like setting a goal, doing things, thinking that this will give you fulfillment. None of it ever does. Yeah. I think the goals are good, but it is like putting that carrot. Yeah. It's like the journey to the goal is the best. Yeah. Hmm.

The end part sucked, kind of. You're like, this is the goal? The purse was your carrot. Yes, and I'm like, I don't want the carrot. I loved the part of striving for the carrot. I know. It's sad. We're never going to be satisfied. We're going to be happy. It was like I was saying to you yesterday, it's

Putting the phone up and just like being happy, like being truly like a happy person and like reading, doing things like that. It's like that's where the happiness is. And it's so nice to realize that having to get really secure on yourself and like what you want to do and then still doing it. Yes. I for the longest time, I always needed other people's approval to do things.

Like parents, friends, boyfriends in the past. I feel like since moving to New York, this is like the first time in my life where I truly don't need other people's approval to do anything but my own. As long as I feel good. As long as you feel good. As long as I feel good. Have you ever done the reverse of that where you'll play small so someone else feels big?

Yes. Like all the time. I'm the queen of downplaying everything about myself. Same. It's like the back to imposter syndrome. It's so bad. Like I'll be like proficient in something and be like, oh, I'm like all right at it. Like it's so crazy. Yeah. I'll never admit that I'm like proficient.

in something because I always just believe that you could be, you could always be better. Right. So like, then I'll just be like, oh, I'm like a beginner, but like, I'm certainly not. Do you know what I mean? Correct. Yeah. And like, and it's like embarrassing to claim that you're really good at something. Yeah. Yes. Why though?

And doing it in scenarios, like I had a friend always tell me back in LA, she'd be like, don't play small. And then I was like, okay, why would I play small? Like, why do I do it? Because I do it. And then I'm like, I play small so other people can feel bigger. Like, I'm not putting them down. Yes. And it's like, that's crazy. Like, why can't we just own it? And then they could own it too. But...

Then I was thinking when we're like, when we post like our selfies and things on social media and we're like truly our truest selves, I think we give other people the permission to be their truest selves too. Do you think that? So like when you're your most authentic self, I feel permission to be my most authentic self. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't you think? Yeah. So I think it's like liberating. If it's like somebody starts the domino, then we're all like, well, she's doing it. I want to be myself too. Yeah. I think.

I probably struggle with this most when I'm dating okay and that makes sense now because I feel like when you're first dating someone you're not your authentic self because you're trying to be like your best self it's almost like an interview but I know I play myself off small all the time on dates like because guys will be like what do you do I'm like I work at barstool blah blah blah and they're like that's so cool I'm like yeah no it's fine I'm new it's fine yeah or like my friends will say something they're like that's so cool that the podcast hit number eight I'm like yeah it's great

How are you? Yeah. What have you done? And it's like, it's okay to be like... Yeah. Because when you are doing it to somebody else, you're like trying to... You're like, let me give it to you. Yeah. But you have the hardest time taking it back. Yes. Someone will be like, you look hot today. And you're like, I love your pants. Yes. Just look hot today. Just you look hot. Today's not my fucking day. I do that all the time. We're all so bad at that. So bad. We're bad at it. So bad. But it's like, we will play so small. Also, like if you...

I guess in the sense of you not playing small, being like you're not responsible for their actions. Like you can control yours, but I can't control yours. So I'll just be me and then hope that you're you. But if you can't handle it.

See ya. Yeah, no, that's something I do need to really work on on a regular basis because I never want to come across as arrogant. Right. Or cocky. And there's a fine line between being confident, but not a cocky asshole. Yeah. But like you can, you know, but I even feel like my body going small. Like if someone were to say, wow, your podcast is doing really well, I can like feel my body going into a shell almost like a turtle. That was me this weekend at a Labor Day party because my friends were like,

are you going to bring us merch or what? And I was like, I'm embarrassed to give it to you. Why? And they were like, why? Everyone just started like yelling at me at one time. They were like, why the fuck would you say that? I was like,

I don't know. Like, it's embarrassing to be like, wear this thing that like, I like may like, do you know what I mean? Yeah. To support me. Like, I don't know. Like I go into shell. I literally can't get myself. Think more and more on that note. Like seriously, who we are around makes the biggest impact on us. Yeah.

Yeah. If you surround yourself with people that play big, but not cocky big, but they're just confident, then you're more confident. Like, you have more permission to be like, they're being their full self and they're okay with it. I'm going to be my full self and I'm going to be okay with it. Yeah. I went to therapy this morning and I was... Yay, second time. And I was just describing to her something I struggle with is...

like voicing how I feel to people. Okay. Because I never want people to, because like our problems in my head, I assume people think are stupid. Like, oh, we didn't hit the views. Like, I feel like my friends would be like, that's so stupid. Like, that's your problem today is you didn't hit views. Wow, hard life. So I never want to tell people my problems that don't work in this space and I don't want to like burden people. And my therapist was saying like, why do you get the right to assume how your friends will take your problems? Oh, I like that.

And I was like, why do I have the right to assume how my friends will handle my problems if I bring them up? Okay, so she's saying, like, don't guess how Alex is going to take your problem because you don't know? Yeah. She's like, why don't you give him a chance? Oh, I like that. More so talking about my friends not in the content space. She's like, why aren't you giving your friends a chance to be a good friend? Because for all you know, they could handle it very well. And I was like, that's so true. Like, I don't even give people the opportunity to...

hear me out like I'm just assuming they're gonna take it in a bad way but what's the difference between not hitting quota of views and not hitting sales that's what she said oh really yeah she literally was she was like what no literally that's what she said yeah she's like why is that any different and she's like you you're she's like you got to stop just assuming how people think and feel you're not a mind reader and you can't predict the future she's told me today oh wow she's like stop trying to read people's minds and stop trying to predict the future because that's impossible

You would want your friend to give you a chance. Yeah. And I love hearing my friends' problems. Yeah. And you're good at them. Like you're good. You're a good absorber. Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, you're welcome. Do not give me a compliment back. You absorb that. But I was just, I don't know where I was going with that. What were we talking about? Well, I think it's, I do have a question on the therapy thing. How do you feel going back to therapy? Because it's hard to start again, but it's wonderful once you have. I love it. I forgot how much I missed it.

It's just so nice to talk to an unbiased person every week who validates your, the things you're struggling with. Yeah. You know what? I was thinking about this. It's the Botox. I can't show emotion. I'm just kidding. I'm stuck.

I was thinking about how we talk about like sex and therapy. Yeah. And somebody DM'd me and they were like, oh my God, you and Jordan talking about sex is like you never talked about it with girlfriends before. And I was like, I didn't really. Yeah, you didn't. It's truly that combo. But then I'm thinking about us talking about therapy. And I don't think guys talk freely about therapy the way that we do. I think they take it as a complete...

insult if or not even an insult but I think they would like hide that they went to therapy to each other before we get into that topic let's talk about our sponsor better help

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Very appropriate. All right, so let's get back into it. So you were saying, you were talking about men and their mental health issues. Yeah, I think we're so lucky. I'll talk to any of my friends about therapy. Yes. Will you? Yes, now I will. I wouldn't have three years ago.

See, same. And I feel like because it used to be you go to therapy and you were like, what's wrong with you? Oh, the stigma behind it was horrible. And for females, I feel like we're way ahead of the guys in this instance. Like, I remember suggesting to Graham two years ago that he should go to therapy and he thought I told him he should go to jail and he was a shitty person.

Oh my God. Yeah. I literally, when I was dating guys back in the day, if they told me they were going to therapy, I'd be like, no red flag. But now if they tell me they go to therapy, I'm like, that is incredibly attractive. A guy going to therapy is a green flag. The greenest flag of all. I,

think guys know what the even their option I think they think they have to have the most traumatic upbringing ever in order to qualify for therapy and it's like you could talk to your therapist about your job your goals like I don't think they know and I think remember there remember real men wear pink yeah that stigma yeah okay I was thinking about how

I don't know if this is PC to say, but like it used to be, if you were a pink shirt, people were like, Oh, he's gay. Not that. And there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. But that was just how life was. That's how it used to be when they would wear the shirt. So we started the real men wear pink and then it became okay for them to wear pink. And it's like, they'll go to the gym and be macho and work out their bodies, but like they won't do the same for their mind. And it's like, I wish that guys felt okay going to therapy or like talking about it. Yeah. I don't,

I mean, I do know why, but it sucks that they don't feel that way. But I think you're so right where people assume they need to have these like massive traumatic events happen to them to go to therapy. And it's like, does that matter how big or small your problems are? Everyone can benefit from talking to an unbiased human being. Yeah. And it sucks. Yeah. I wish it was okay. I don't know when it's going to be okay.

but I do feel for them because we're really lucky as females and in New York city where it's a lot more okay. Like in Minnesota, it's not as okay to go to therapy. Like I don't talk about it as much back there. Okay. But here I do like we're really lucky. Yeah. Cause if, if I was like, Oh, my therapist said, but I'm thinking about these guys in the office and I'm like, I can't imagine any of them saying, well, my therapist was telling me, like I imagine the other guys like laughing at them. Kind of. I also,

feel like men aren't allowed to have mental health issues as frequently as women. Like, if a girl's going through an anxious period and she's like, I have anxiety, we're all like, oh, I feel that. But if a guy does, I feel like people would be like, whoa. Right. Whoa, whoa, wait. You're anxious? A guy's anxious? Yeah, you're supposed to be macho and in control. Yeah, they equal mental health issues as weak, which that's not the case at all. No, you're just human. Yeah. Okay, wait. Did you know... Okay, I was thinking about how...

I love it. I can like literally see your mind turned when I talk to you. It's like little gears. You get my wheels turning in there. Have you seen the Titanic? Yes, Alex, I have because I'm a normal human being. I'm like you. Have you seen The Notebook? You're literally asking.

Wait, you're asking me that question literally like, do you know what one plus one is? Yes, I've seen the notebook. I've never seen either of them. Jeez. What? Oh my God. You've never seen either? No, never seen either. All right, that's your homework. Go home. I need to watch the Titanic. Holy shit. Because I didn't know on the Titanic when...

It was going down, literally. They chose. They, on the lifeboats last night, I was like, well, who got on the lifeboats? Who did we save? Women and children. The women and children would. So today, in today's age, if the boat was going down, do you think the same thing would happen? I'd call for it. Women and children, everyone. But I don't think all men would do that today. I was thinking some guys would be like, well, listen, I run a Fortune 500 company. I need to be on the boat. Yeah.

No, literally, I think that we would all have, like, the assumption that it would be that way, but I don't think men would do that. I could see some guys being like, here's my tax returns. I'm getting on the boat. No, literally, like, I do more for this world than you. I'm getting on. You're welcome. But I'm pregnant. I don't care. I own Facebook. I own Amazon. It needs to keep going.

welcome to the world. It's like, no, I was just thinking like, would we still, would that still play? I don't think so. You think it'd be different. Chivalry is almost dead. Is it almost dead? At least with the guys I've dated. Awesome. Any, like, do you have any dating thoughts currently? Is everything going okay in that brain? So, um, I've made some progress. Oh my God. What is it? Yeah. So what? Well, no, no, no. Like mental health wise.

Oh, I've been rejected, ghosted a lot in my life. And it's always affected me, as it should. I mean, rejection is never an easy thing. But through this podcast, I've really learned regrets a lot better. Or sorry, regrets a lot worse than rejection. So I usually always try to shoot my shot. And I went on a date.

The other day. And... But before I went on the date, I thought I was being rejected. I thought I was being ghosted. Before going. Before going. He just... He, like, rescheduled and then he didn't respond the next day. So I was like, he doesn't want to go. It's fine. And I was okay with that. Okay. Because I knew that...

It wasn't a me problem at that point. Like he didn't know me that well. So it's not like it was a true rejection on my personality. It was probably a him problem in the past. I would have beat myself up and been like, oh my God, what's wrong with me? Why doesn't even if he never had met me? Like, why does he like me? Why isn't getting a giving me a chance? And I would have been a mess like spiral. Okay. But this time I was like, no, like I know I'm awesome. He doesn't know the real me. And if he's rejecting me, one, it's his loss and two, it's a him problem.

Because how much did he know about you at this point? This person? Not much. I mean, I'm sure as everyone does preconceived notions, assumptions, but he didn't know me very well. We'd like never have hung out one-on-one before or really spoken. Okay. Okay. So not much. We've never talked. So wait, you were okay though with like a rejection. Is that an easier rejection? Yeah.

Him not having 20 dates with the person and him really knowing you. Well, that's what I'm getting at. Okay. So the pre-rejection or ghosting before the actual date now is okay with me because I know that's no way, shape, or form a me problem. Okay. Because they haven't met how awesome I am yet. It's a them problem. Like, I was so okay. I was so content. I was like, it's fine. Like...

But that was a big growing point for me because I would have been a mess. Like back in the day, I remember I would get canceled on last minute and I was like, what's wrong with me? But I'm like, they haven't even met me. How is it a meme problem? It's not you. It's their own thing. Literally, it's what they're struggling with because they've not met me or spoken to me other than over a text. Does it make you now more comfortable with like,

texting guys like that's not the right word but is it does it make you more comfortable shooting that shot of like like starting out on a date if they reject you before the date who cares yeah yeah okay yes 100% okay but we did end up going on the date how was it it was good but I'm realizing I do still have issues with

the rejection like after the date like you know like I've gotten a lot of dates and actually in New York a lot of the guys have not wanted to go on a second date with me like I feel like I've said I it's like two ways but there's been a lot of guys in New York who don't want to go on a second date with me okay and that still hurts a lot because now they know me okay but in therapy today we were talking and she we didn't talk a lot about it she said she was like just think like they have like um

It's like just like they have bad taste like she's making a joke but we didn't really get into it a lot but I was it was making me think like it's probably still a them issue at that point. I mean maybe they don't like me. I don't know. I don't know. It still eats at me like it's still I still have an issue with being ghosted after the fact. Why does it eat at you? It's valid. Of course it would. But I go. Okay. So it's an ego thing because I was going to say.

Do you care if they don't? Do you care? You don't really care. No. So that's the thing I battle with on a daily basis. It's like I deep down don't care because I'm not in a place in my life where I'm like begging for a male's attention, which I'm very lucky about. But it's my ego that still gets upset. Even is it. Do you still like them? If the guy goes to you afterwards, is it because you like them or are you solely stuck on the fact that they haven't reached out to you?

Okay, so that's something I just started thinking about the other day. I realized I have a really hard time realizing if I like someone because I like them or I like the idea of them. The idea of them. Like, that's something I was reevaluating every guy I've dated in New York. And every single time I'm like, did I actually like them or did I like the idea of them?

Especially if, especially like a heightened scenario when you can't have them. Exactly. They're from afar. And when they reject me because of the ego. And then you're like, they're awesome. Like, remember that guy I was hooked up on for like three months? Yes. And I remember people would be like, what do you like about him? And I was like,

You didn't even really know him that well. I didn't. But he rejected me and I was so obsessed with the idea of him because I met him organically. We met in like a... It was like kind of a funny way. We like shared a unique experience. And now today I'm like, I like this man because of the idea of him solely. I could not tell you one reason why I liked him. Besides like the basics. Do you have... It's like...

It's funny because you have your values that you want, right? Like, let's say it's like you want a funny guy, you want a humble guy, and you want a smart guy. Yeah. Okay, well, nowhere on that list is tall, dark, and handsome, uh,

wealthy, like none of those things are on the list, but that's where you get stuck on the idea. Yeah. The ideas in people's mind. Did you know we form opinions on people in like the first point 10 seconds? Yes. So like when you're boarding an airplane, you ever seen a cute guy? Yeah. And you're like, he definitely lives in New York. He definitely like in all these things. None of them are true. Yeah. Ever. But you get stuck on the ideas, but it's like,

The values you want don't ever match the idea, but it's like this shiny object. Do I know something that's so crazy? What? So if you take the list of guys I've met organically and the list of guys I've met on a dating app, when a guy that I meet organically rejects me,

It hurts a lot more than if a guy on an app rejects me because I don't like the idea of meeting someone on an app. So it's easier for me to let go of that person. Because it's the idea of how I met that person. I'm so caught up on the organically meeting, like the serendipity, the fun story, the meet cute, the meet cute. I'm so obsessed with the meet cute where that like takes a lot.

Like, when I get rejected... Like, every guy who's rejected by an app, I literally get over in, like, two days. Okay. Because it was an app. I don't want to tell people that story anyways. Oh, got it. That's what you mean by idea. Yeah. Okay, okay. It's, like, the idea of meeting them. Yeah, versus that guy I met, like, three months ago. I was obsessed with that idea. I thought that was, like, such a cute, fun story. I'm like, no, but the serendipity was, like, perfect. So now you're toying with, do I...

So like let's say you go on a date with a person. Yeah. And then you're like, do I like the idea of them or did I actually like that person? Yes. And I think we all struggle with that because I don't think we can know if we like someone in a first date. No, it's time. It's trying it on. You need at least three dates, I feel like. Because let's be honest, on a first date, we're not our best self. We're nervous. We're nervous.

We're trying to be perfect. You don't show your true colors. So you don't see the best version of that person. So there's just no way you can fall in love with someone on a first date. No. I'm sorry. There's just no way. No, and it's like the idea of...

It's like when I was wedding dress shopping, there was one designer I did not want and I loved the idea of these other ones and I went and I tried them on and I hated them because I tried them on. But then I went to the designer that I hated and I loved it and it's the one I got. It's like this with you. It's like you like these ideas you think, but you don't know. And you know what you're good at?

you'll, it'll, it takes you a second sometimes. Like, like at first you have, at first you have this like brash idea and you're like, this is it. And this is the Bible and it's not changing. Yeah. But then you'll break it and you'll be like, I'm going to try it. And then you're like, I think I'm into that. And that's what you do with these. Like you make these, if,

If this doesn't happen with this guy, he's done for. But like you're getting softer on it. And I think you're like enjoying that. And it's loosening your ideas. I'm breaking my rules. Because like this guy that I'm talking about, he didn't reject or ghost me. It's just not...

happening as it perfectly should in my head. He's not fitting your rule book, but you might still like him. Exactly. So I'm getting better at being okay with things not happening perfectly because another issue I have along with the meet cute, I'm obsessed with everything happening perfectly because that in my head equals the perfect guy, the perfect life, the perfect marriage, like everything. You know what I mean? Like if he doesn't do, if he doesn't ask me on a date, pay for the date, prompt second day. Oh, it's done. Right. Because how could I end up with someone who doesn't do that?

Right. But it was you earlier that said the expectation. It's when you least it's when you don't set the standard that it's the best. Yeah. And it's like maybe the dating rules don't serve you. Exactly. But it's hard to let go of them because it's all, you know. Yeah. Like not to give men excuses, but if you are going on a date with a guy and maybe he doesn't follow up or ask you the way you thought he should. And then you ask him what was going on in his head. You'll realize how simple men are.

They think nothing of it. It could not. It might not be the end of the world. It could literally be like their phone was dead. And that's why they texted you two hours late. They're like, sorry, my phone was just dead and I didn't have a charger. But in our heads, we're like, they are the worst man ever. He's got one hour. And if he doesn't do it, then he doesn't an hour and a half later. Like, it's OK.

Okay. Exactly. It's okay. Exactly. Yeah. That's interesting though. I wonder the idea versus really liking them is fascinating. So I have a question for you. Okay. Obviously. So I've always wondered this and not with you specifically, but I'm wondering this about myself with Graham. How did you know you really liked him versus the idea of him? Because not saying you thought this, but.

I'll be honest, like, if I met someone similar to Graham, the idea of them would sound so amazing because of their background. So, like, how did you, like, genuinely know, like, you love this man for who he is versus you love him for the idea of him? Does that make sense? It does make sense. Or the lifestyle that he maybe can give you or...

what could come with that? I don't know if that's like an appropriate question. I've always, I wonder that for myself though. Like if I were to meet a CEO of a company, I'm like, how would I know that I love them for who they are or the idea of who they are? Right. Right. Like it's something I truly like battle with on a daily basis, even though I've never met a CEO of a company. I have a map of what I'm wondering. For when you do need advice. But you don't even, or what if I meet like a,

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but like a teacher. I'll just use a teacher. Okay. And I love them, but I don't love the idea of them because they're a teacher, which nothing is wrong with the teacher. I'm just trying to find a job that's

More not. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, what if I don't, what if I'm so obsessed with the idea that I can't fall in love? Like these keep me up at night. These thoughts keep me up at night. Okay. Okay. I think that's a really valid question. It's an uncomfortable question, but it's a valid question. It makes you feel kind of like shallow. Correct. But we're all a little shallow in this world. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we are.

Okay. I don't want to be shallow. That's why I want to talk about it. Right. No, I think that's good. I think if you can recognize that. You've made me a better person by me asking these questions. That's good. So thank you. You're welcome. Back at you. No! I know. It's true though. I tried not to. Okay. When I first met Graham, I didn't like him. I hated him. But I hadn't talked to him. Okay. I hated the idea. I had the reverse. I thought for sure I had on my hands a spoiled little brat who was going to suck. Okay.

and just be a dick and was going to be entitled.

So I was air. Why though? I don't know. Okay. I didn't hear like things like I didn't hear much. I just took him for face value and I was like, okay, well first, just the fact that he went to a private school, I just was like, what a spoiled brat. It's not fair. I think I was scared actually. It's kind of like with athletes. You just assume they're going to cheat on you. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. And, but here, here's the thing about the idea. So you can have an idea in your head, good or bad. You'll make it through.

maybe three dates and I would I would think you'd be like I can't fake it anymore there are now there are some people I think that are literally married today to the idea of a person and they're okay with that and they're living this lifestyle to them that they they put the lifestyle over the emotional connection there are people that do that and I think we see them on Instagram and that's fine

But to somebody that like you that actually explores dating and like wants to find a connection with somebody, it's not even in our DNA to be able to sit there and put on that fake smile like you can't. And the second that you encounter any hardship, you're just like, we can't make it through this if the idea of them doesn't match the values that you want. Like.

Like you physically won't be able to do it. You have too much depth to you. Like you would just be like, I can't fake it. That makes me feel good. Yeah. And you want to know the biggest thing that I heard you say? What? Three dates. Never been on three dates before.

that's what you know though. Like you need time. You're right though. Because like, even if I love, like I went, I remember I went on a date with that one man a while back and he was very wealthy and I didn't make it past the second date because I loved the idea of him. He was, he fit all the boxes, but I knew by the second day I was like, there just isn't that connection. So you're right. You have to go emotional connection. If he is cute and tall, that's icing on the cake. But you,

Cute and tall doesn't get you through that shit phase, that shit year. None of that helps you. Like it has to be emotionally your person, but you'll know. Like you cannot sit there and be like, mm-hmm, yes. I have butterflies right now. Yay! I do. Really? Yes, I literally, my stomach just did like a somersault. I think this is what you need to hear. No, that, please keep telling me. If you even have an ounce of fun on a date, there's a chance. You'll, you know when it's bad.

Yes I do You know what I mean You're like That was a terrible date We had no emotional connection But it's okay to be like I think I had fun with him Do I like the idea of him I would do a second date Though like I did like him Yeah Like that's when I think It's okay to keep trying

Wait, I love that. Like you, I'm not kidding. Alex, you just made me feel so much better. Oh, good. I didn't know that. That was such a large worry of mine. I never, like I was struggling with like, what if I never can figure out the idea versus the person, but you're so right because I would have kept dating a lot of people if I was so hooked, if I wasn't.

No if I was obsessed With the idea The dates would have Just kept coming You would be talking To like three guys In the Hamptons right now If you were down With the idea That's so true There was plenty of them Yeah But you were like We're not I have nothing in common With you Like you didn't care That's so true

And I also feel like it can be a reverse to where, like you said, the idea can affect you from going on a date with that person again, because you assume the idea of them can cause X, Y, and Z. But if you give that person a chance, you realize that that idea is wrong. So you're going to be the idea for some people. Yes. I'm sure. I'm sure a lot of guys go on dates to me. Like I can't date this girl. She talks about sex and relationships on a podcast. She's just going to use me for content. She's probably talking to 50 guys. Like people, I,

I know for a fact people have their assumptions about me. And if people gave me a chance, I could prove every single assumption wrong. And that's the thing. Yeah, that'll be the thing. That just made my blood boil. No, but it's not always a bad thing because the right person will give you the shot. That's true because you gave Graham the shot. You want somebody that has it in them to be like, let me just give this a shot. Let me have the confidence to go on a second date with her and figure out that she's not a shallow asshole.

Correct. So not. It's not fair to assume that for people. It's not fair for us to. Yeah. That pissed me off. Yeah. But the right person will give you the shot. How would they think that about you? A lot of people. I would literally fight.

Fight them. No, a lot of, and I know a lot of people are going to roll their eyes, but I have facts to back me up in this, where guys have said stuff to me like that. I believe it. And it sucks. Yeah, but that's just them stereotyping you. Yeah. So how did you allow that idea of Graham that you hated him go away? Time. Time. Talking to him. Did he have to fight for you?

Well, yeah, when we hit the cheating period before the cheating, like when you were just getting to know him, you get these like little like life in general. You and I have had them in a friendship, like any relationship. You get these times of that. There's the mundane. There's the day to day. But life throws curveballs at you all the time in which each curveball you see how somebody handles it. And you'll be like, I liked the way they handled that or I didn't. If you didn't, you take it a step further and you're like, let me have a conversation with you about that. How do they receive that?

Are they willing to like mold? Are you willing to mold? Like when you start to form a relationship with somebody, you're like, I can do this or I can't. Like you probably trust me now. I trust you now. Yeah. Okay. So that's six months. Think about that. You would know my true colors by now and I would know yours. And that's how it would be with a person. Each date you went on, each text you sent, like you just get to know them more. Yeah. But with Graham, if you didn't like him, how did you guys keep talking?

Something... That was like a gut thing. Okay. Like, something in me was interested. And I did... I went to a wedding with him. So we were both... It wasn't a date. We were both there anyways. Okay. And he was just like a light. And like, he was so fun. And he would like come and twirl. And I was like, I don't hate him. And then I was like, why...

I think it was my best friend Sydney was like, it's not fair that you're assuming all these things from afar and he likes you. So like, Ken, why would you not? If you can give me like three good reasons to not give him a chance, but you guessing that he's a spoiled brat's not going to do us anything. I think the biggest thing people can take out of this episode is stop assuming things about people. Stop assuming.

Stop trying to read people's minds and predict the future. Yes. Yes. Maybe you're doing that to some people too. I do it all. I...

I am the biggest fake mind reader of the whole time. My group chat is like going off right now. Why? Literally about drinking. Really? Oh, funny. Yeah. Because I brought it up this weekend. Yeah. Yeah. Someone was like, I saw the clip of Alex talking about getting sobriety and I got chills.

I didn't drink at all this weekend, and I had a very clear time. I drank just wine with my mom and dad, so I had, like, two glasses, and it was incredible. Because we got to, like, bond, and, like, my dad loves trying wine, too, so we get to, like, buy each other wine and try it. It's really fun. So it was really fun. Like, it was a good weekend. Yeah. Yeah. I had so much discipline. Like, I only – this is so dumb.

But I'm trying to ease into it. Like, I only went to one bar. And then the second bar, like, I went home. You should be really proud of yourself. That actually takes a lot of self-control. Like, you know down the shore how they have those, like, vans that you could take with, like, 20 people? Yes. So I got in the van because I was like, this will be fun for the van ride. And then I had an Uber waiting for me at the bar.

At the second bar And I left I love you Alana I know me too I ran away I actually sprinted down the street So no one could stop The Irish exit Oh yeah I think that's harder to do Than not doing it all Leaving Because you can get so caught in it And you get in a tornado No I was like I'm leaving Like I'm good I had like maybe Three or four drinks

I was like, I had enough fun at this point. And I didn't trust myself to go to the next bar and like not drink. So I just, yeah. You knew your limit. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, I know. I'm very proud of you too for not drinking. Thank you. I found with, I had a, Graham not drinking was,

So like when we're at dinner, I'm like, what would be the point? That's what I kind of was asking myself this weekend. Yeah. Like for me, the point is I love trying wine, but if I didn't love wine, like I do, I wouldn't need to drink. Yeah. Like last night I went to dinner with a few of my girlfriends and even if they wouldn't have drank, I would have gotten wine because we were at this really good restaurant that I knew had good wine, but I wasn't drinking to get drunk. I was drinking because I wanted to try their wine. You love wine like a cookie tasting.

Like, you know what I mean? You're drinking because you like the taste of it. The day I find a man who loves wine like me will be the man I marry. Okay. A sommelier. A sommelier. We need you to find one for you. Forget everything we've talked about. We're going for a sommelier. That would be fucking cool. For fun, I used to watch documentaries on sommeliers. Really? Yes. That's, wow. That would be you in another life. Speaking of alcohol, though, it's such a bad transition to an ad.

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Did Alex just ask me if she has a question? Yes. That's a first. I know. Did I get that from you? I don't know, but I love it. It's not about whiskey dick, but it kind of is about... Sorry, I spelt macaroni and I got hungry. I'm starving. Yeah, what is that smell? Okay, so last night, I had sex. And... Okay. Wait a...

It's the last time I went home with my husband. Okay, the boob thing's been happening a lot. This podcast is making me hyper-aware. Someone DM'd me and they said they had a boobgasm and it was the best thing in the world. Thank you, Alex. It's electric. The boobgasm is unbelievable, but the problem with it is...

If you start the boobgasm before you start to have sex, like, so we'd like, he was like doing that. And then he was like, I would also like to still have sex with you. Like the boobgasm was great for me, but it's not that great for him. So I lasted maybe three seconds. Like I was like, oh my God. But so then I was like, hold on. I can, cause some people, I think it was you told me you can orgasm and then have sex again. No, only with a vibrator. Okay.

Okay, because I tried and I was miserable. That's what I do every time. What? Yeah. Isn't your vagine a little sensitive? I always... I'm like... I'm before. And then maybe again after. No, I was like, don't touch me. Wait, really? I always come before. That makes my vagine tingle. No, I was miserable. Oh, I get that. Yeah. Like, I totally got that.

Okay, do you know when you orgasm on how your vagina gets like hard? Yeah. Yes. So I feel like it's too hard to have, like you have to let it soften before you allow a dick to go in there again. Yeah, I get that. Do you need like 30 minutes to reset? Yes. I've never orgasmed twice from a man in the same night. I don't even need two orgasms. I just need to be okay doing it again for him. Yeah. And I was like, do not do that.

Like, I tried, but is it possible? That's what I need to know. Is it possible? Well, I do it every time. So you have an orgasm. Yeah. From, like, getting fingered. Whatever. Non-dick penetration. Yeah. Okay. And then immediately you can have sex again and you're okay? You're not like, don't touch me? Yeah, I guess. Does it hurt? I just feel like your vagina is so, like, tense. No, I get what you're saying. I guess it's just... No, I...

That's just what I do. Yeah. So it works. But I get what you're saying. I know some people can't do that. I think everyone's different. Because a magazine... I think everyone's different. A magazine in high school told me it was possible. Was it Cosmopolitan? I think so. And I've never forgotten it. Is that abnormal? No, I think it's normal. No, you're lucky. Yes, jealous of that. I just... I didn't like...

My vagina's just turned off. That's just, like, how I do it with my boyfriend. Like, I wasn't always like that with my boyfriend. Oh, so this is specific to a person. Yeah. Maybe you guys are just that compatible. I guess. Hyper-compatible. That's how you can tell. Like, in the past, definitely didn't do that. Okay. Would definitely wait for just the sex part. But now I do it both.

I just realized that's a way a guy can tell if a girl faked it or not. Like their vagina gets a little hard. It definitely takes me a second to get like ready again, but just do it. And once I think if you do it quick enough, like it's. Yeah, I think the speed in between the O and the entry. Yes. Is what makes it like doable. Because it's almost like I just am still like there. That's sad. I haven't had the opportunity to try it in so long.

Because I don't like the risk of just going into sex and maybe not. Yeah. So, you know. Yes, correct. And I just, I, last night I was like, I can do it. Because the boob, the boob play turns me on so much that I'm, for sex, I'm literally, I mean, it's like three to five seconds and it's not really fair. So I'm like, let me keep, I'm like, hold on, let me keep trying. And then I'm like, oh, that doesn't feel good.

No, I'm like that too. Yeah. I don't know. Try it. Right after you're doing it, like just stick it in. Just keep, just keep, don't stop. Like don't slow down. You're still into it. So you kind of catch up to, you catch back up. Like don't let yourself come down. I literally feel like this is it. After it comes, it's like, nee, nee, nee, nee.

Like, I don't let myself come down. Oh. From the high. I think I let myself come down. Yeah, you're like, sit there and you're like, eh. If you knew you were going to do it, then you'd have a different mentality, maybe. 100%. Okay. Thank you for that. Okay. That's good to know. That's good to know. Speaking of coming a lot, if you need to come a lot, you need a new sex toy. With Adam and Eve. Baby. Okay. Who wants better sex? Raise your hand.

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I think we should change our listener question to talking about whiskey dick and not cumming. Okay. For guys. I've seen that question a lot. And the Roman thing inspired me, so I'm changing it to that. I love when you're a producer. It's hot. That's hot. And it'd be good for the men. Okay. It'd be good for the men. Yes. A lot of men have DM'd about that. Like feeling...

like I guess insecure when they can't come so mainly just like how to handle like I guess how to handle it for a guy like how do you feel when you're with a guy and he doesn't finish well personally it happens all the time because all I do is fucking drunk sex um it doesn't bother me because at this age I feel like we just know it's biological yes yes it's like if you drink wine it's like knowing that girls it's hard for girls to get wet

I think if you have whiskey dick and you're sleeping with a girl that you don't know that well or you do know that well and you put all this pressure on yourself to come, you never end up coming. Like, here's the thing. It doesn't matter either way. The pressure. Just have sex and have fun with it. She'll enjoy herself. Be, like, hot in the bedroom. And then whether you come or don't come, I don't feel like matters. No. Like, it doesn't. I would never care. Also, I don't know if it's just, like, a us thing, but if a guy communicates to me X, Y, and Z, I...

I am so okay with it, but don't try to hide it. Yeah, if he's like, I have whiskey dick, you're like, heard of that? I'm like, yeah, that's normal. Perfect. But if someone, if he's just like, oh, no, no.

I'm like, this is just weird now. Yeah. And that's when girls think it's them, I think. Yes. When you're not honest. Also, I think girls like when guys do communicate about that because if a girl hears you have a whiskey dick, they know for a fact it's none of them problem. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's not a whiskey dick. Like, I think of a one-night stand after a wedding and I'm like, yep, you sure do. Yeah. Yeah. You should probably because, yeah, yes. You don't even drink, bro. And also, I'm going to be honest with you, usually when I'm about to have drunk sex, I never actually...

Love the idea because I know it's not going to be that great. So if someone is like, I have a whiskey dick, I'm like, fine, we'll just have sex in the morning when we're sober. What about when they're sober and they can't? Well, I dated a guy who had a problem getting hard and he was older and he communicated it to me. And it wasn't an issue because he communicated it to me so well. Because in the beginning I was like, is it a me problem?

But once he laid out the facts and communicated it, I knew it wasn't a me problem. Like, it was a literal biological thing he was dealing with. That actually happened to a guy I was dating, too. I was dating this guy, and he, like, couldn't get hard for a while. He told his therapist about it. Therapy. Green flag. And his therapist was like, you're literally just getting in your head, and it's an endless cycle. Like, if you just get out of your head, like, you'll be fine.

After that session, everything was okay. Yeah. I think it's the pressure they put on themselves. It's the pressure, for sure. But I think guys in general, whether or not you cum during sex, your dick size, any of it, like, it's biological. Like, it's not your fault. I think... It's like your boobs. Yeah, I don't think a girl would care. Like, I would never care. I would just be like, that's just part of you as a human. Like, thanks for trying. And I'll be honest, if they do care, they're probably not that great of a human being. Yeah, it's a little superficial. Like, you're just trying. I...

That's like something that actually pisses me off is that when people, and I used to be this person, so I can say it. Okay. When people judge people on things they can't control, like dick size or boob size or X, Y, and Z, it's like, yeah, it sucks. Don't date them, but you don't have to trash them. Right. You don't have to be like, oh, that sucks horrible because his dick was so small. Just be like, I didn't enjoy it. Move on from it. You know those like little...

those like little those movie clips where girls are like in a corner like in a circle yes and they're like was it big I used to be that girl see I never had that calm like you'd be like was it big yes and none at the end of the day I'm like why do we even ask this question that because at the end of the day back then it was like bad to be like I don't want a big dick but now I'm like

I wanted to be normal size and smaller. It feels less painful. Or like, I don't even think you care. But no, I was that girl in high school. I'd be like, it was a small penis. Like, it didn't feel good. It was too small. Yes. How would you feel if they were like, her vagina was loose? That's what I mean. That's why I've grown so much. I'm not like that anymore. And now I'm like...

what I'll like ask that question sometimes like was his dick big when they say yes I'm like I'm sorry yeah it doesn't matter was he nice yes I'm like I love a normal average size dick yeah I'll say it I'll say it every day any any just that the guy I love an average size dick if the guy's got a big dick it doesn't matter it doesn't matter I don't think it matters it's about the motion of the ocean not the what's the rest of it size of the wave I think that's it is it

Motion... Yeah. Is it the motion of the ocean or the size of the wave? It's not the size of the wave. Yeah. Yeah, I just... And it's just because it's like, I have small boobs, so I don't want guys over here being like, her tits were so small. It's like, I can't control it, and I'm not about to pay 10 grand for a boob job. Well, then they'll be like... Oh my god, it makes me feel so... Wait, can I say something? Sure. You know what I realized? So I...

Like, I love... If I was a guy, I'd probably be a boob guy over a butt guy. And I love, like, bigger boobs. But I realized I kind of love, like...

The boobs, like, I don't love how boob jobs make your boobs, like, perfect and perky. I kind of love, like, when boobs, like, not sag, but, like, you know when people wear a bikini, how they have, like, a little cleavage that, like, needs to be pushed up? Like, I love that. So I would never want a boob job because I wouldn't get that from a boob job because your boobs become perfect. I like the way boob jobs look. I cannot handle it.

Cannot handle if you lose feeling. I know. You wouldn't be able to live life. I think they're like... I don't mind the boobs. I'm a little into that. Yeah. I mean, it looks good on people. I mean, for myself, though, I think it's, like, sexy when, like... Let them hang. You have them hanging a little bit. Like, I love, like, that look. Do you know what boobs taste? Because of, like, the lotion? Or, like, body parts have, like, a specific...

Like your pheromones coming out? Maybe it's pheromones. What are those? Like what? Female hormones? No, pheromones are the things that we release to attract the other species. So like we release them and that's what men are attracted to. And that's why when you're ovulating, you usually attract more men because your pheromones are more intense because it's like biological. Like we're made to mate.

Maybe he was tasting my pheromones. Maybe. Wait, what's the... Please explain. Were you leaking? Oh, no. Okay, yeah, no context. Graham was saying... After the boob gasm. He was like, bodies like taste like...

And I was like, yeah, like you taste a certain way. Like I can like smell him. And like when I kiss him, I'm like, yeah, that's like your taste. Yeah. Yeah. But then he was like, you taste. And I was like, you taste a certain way. Like I would know if it was your body. If you lined up 10 people, I would know. And I like touched, like licked their hands. I would know his. Like I would be like, you taste. I don't. I think it's like you can't feel your fever. Maybe you can't taste yourself. But I can taste him and he can taste me. And I thought that was cool. Did he say like you tasted different though?

Well, this morning he was like, I can still pay. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Was he tasting your boob or your vagine? The boob. The boob. I'm sure the vagine tastes the same way too. But bodies have these tastes.

I'm curious now if it'd be interesting for him to taste you when you're ovulating versus when you're not ovulating. So interesting. Your skin? Yeah. Or even like your regime too. I'm sure the regime tastes different all times of the month. I guarantee daily it tastes different. But I know for a fact like your pheromones do change. I don't know about men, but I know for a fact that pheromones change. Like when I got out of birth control, I'm sure my pheromones changed because men probably were like,

biologically, like, she now can have sex and have babies. Yeah, like, they know. Yeah, versus when I was on birth control, technically, like, you're... Because, like, haven't you ever heard, like, birth control can even, like, affect, like, how you're attracted to your partner? Because, like, that actually all changes once you get off birth control. Oh, no. I might be, like, just talking in my ass right now, but I'm almost positive, like, all of that changes. That's so interesting. Yeah. Who knew? I know, because you're technically, like, tricking your body. Like, you're not...

Oh, you are tricking your body, I guess. So it is switching. I guess that would, I guess it doesn't make sense. So your hormones are different. Yeah. Yeah. So, so I know for a fact, I know for a fact when I'm ovulating, um,

I can pull differently at a bar. Ooh, really? It's a fact. I think we all can. They say you do get the pre-period glow. Yeah. And like your skin shines, your hair knows, like you look best. And men all around are like, fertile, fertile, fertile. I love her. I need to make babies. Fertile, fertile. I'm serious. If you think I'm crazy, literally go out when you're ovulating and go out when you're not ovulating. And I know for a fact it will be a different scenario. Wow.

It's been weird. Which is that's like what five days after your period ends. What is it? I don't know. I 10 days after your, the day of your first period. Or you should see with Mike and Graham that you should like track your, when you're auditing and see if they're like, maybe they can't keep their hands off you more during that time. Okay. It's so interesting. I can't keep my hands off him at that time. I know that. Yeah. Right. Oh, I know how I feel. No. When I first got birth control, crazy things were happening with men. Um, doesn't it not, not so much anymore.

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