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I need to stop acting so eager when I'm talking to a guy. I think I was act like when I found out the guy lived in New York in my head, I was like, wait, this is so cool. Like what a funny story. You meet a guy at a bar. He's actually in a different state and he actually lives right by you in New York city. Jordan's thinking signs. These are signs. Literally serendipity. I love this. What a fun story. Will you marry me? Literally. And I think people can catch on to that and eagerness.
is for me at least like reversing it's a little bit unattractive it's like I need somebody like I just met you okay give me paint the scenario for the guys listening what's the ideal approach and we are back ladies and gentlemen
Don't laugh at me. I'm trying to make an energetic pod entrance, Alex. I know. I'm here for it. Every week, we're like, we're going to make a better intro, and I try it, and I don't have your support. No, you have my support. It woke me up. Good morning. Good morning. Welcome back to episode seven of Mean Girl Pod. I'm Jordan. I'm Alex. And you know what? Thank you for joining. We have an exciting episode today. We do. We're going to be talking about how traveling together defines a relationship. Yeah.
How to confidently approach the person you've been eyeing all night at the bar. How we spend our money. And then we're going to go into some questions that I asked on the Instagram this morning at like 7.30 a.m. Because I forgot yesterday. But first, A.B., hit us with the current event. Okay, for the first time in 11 years, Americans' morale is at an all-time low.
Yeah, I know. I hate to deliver the bad news. That's the first. I couldn't decide between these two. The second current event is that Elon Musk got on Twitter and challenged Putin to a single combat fight. Winner gets Ukraine. It's not funny.
really yes wow right on twitter i mean yo he already gave you ukraine wi-fi which was incredible so lit it on up so go elon awesome great um thank you for that current event and alex i'm so happy you're back in new york city hq i'm so happy to be back when we we landed last night and i was like the energy is back spring break 2022 baby it was so fun it was a lot of fun um
We went to Aspen. Yes. We, okay, here's the thing. Jordan and I, this is episode seven.
We don't know each other that well. No, we know each other for, it's been 46 days, I think. That's pretty much, like, we were friends before. We were in the same friend group, but there was five of us, and Jordan and I were the least close. Yeah. Opposite ends of the spectrum, and now we're traveling together. Your husband liked me more than you did. Exactly. My husband's like, Jordan's cool, and I was like, I don't know her. Like, I just don't know her. It wasn't that I didn't think you were cool, it's just like, I was like, I don't...
We didn't talk. Yeah, we both thought the same thing about each other, which is so funny. We were like, we don't know. We don't get each other. We don't know what their motive is. But now look at us. Traveling. Okay, so when you travel with somebody, whether it's a significant other or it's a friend, you find out everything you need to know. Yeah, like if you want to figure out if a relationship is going to last, just go on a trip with them.
Here's what I Okay so when Graham and I First started dating My aunt told me You have to go on a trip With him It'll make or break you Here's the thing Wait how long Were you dating Like six months Incredible Yeah And so we like Went to Dallas Just for like a weekend Because here's the thing When you have to stay In the hotel room With a significant other We're talking like Okay there's the first Poop
There is. That just exists. I didn't even think about that. It's so awkward and you're like, everyone does it, but you're like... You can run to the hotel lobby, which a lot of people do. I've done that before. I did it. Because you're like, I'm going to go down... And you're thinking of reasons to go downstairs. But you are. Yeah. Yeah. Especially some people just aren't fast. No, they're not fast. You feel awkward. You get pee shy. I get so pee shy whenever I'm peeing with Alex. I'm like...
I'm always like, okay, it's happening. And she'll like sing a song or you'll turn the water on. I'm like, that's real. So I think like when you travel with somebody, one thing I noticed about you and I is we're both outfit repeaters. Like we are not afraid. Mine was all black. So it wasn't as noticeable, but Jordan and I wore the same thing all three days. No,
Not a big deal. No, and I made the mistake of wearing the Ram Super Bowl sweatshirt. Not even thinking twice. It's just one of my favorite sweatshirts because it's big and comfortable. I wore it almost every single day. Now everyone's like, do you wash your sweatshirts? I'm like, no, I pick one sweatshirt and I wear it all week long. Okay? I don't have laundry in my unit. I think it's fine. I mean, it's your own skin shedding. Also, quick back to the bathroom thing. I feel like we got lucky because...
Sharing a bathroom versus having your own bathroom is game changing. Like, I don't know if you would enjoy me if we would have shared a bathroom. Why? I just I'm a little high maintenance when it comes to my bathroom routine. Like I have like a 30 minute skincare routine. I like to dilly dally when I get ready. I'm not somebody who's like quick in quick out like I'm a hot bathroom hog.
I think it too. I think if people go, if you're going on a vacation, guys or girls, and you're going on a vacation with somebody else, friends or significant other, it's mentally exhausting to be in the, to have to tiptoe around somebody. Cause like, you're not allowed to be yourself. Like when you're in the room and the door shut, I don't want to know what you do. Like, I'm like, do your thing.
But when you're traveling with somebody else, you're like, um, I'll do five minutes in the bathroom and I'll fold the towels and I should do it. And it's like, yeah, you don't want to do that. Yeah. So I feel like we got really lucky there. Also, you and I, we do content as our full time job. So I'm like, Alex doesn't need to hear me spewing pop culture in the corner of the room while she's trying to do her other thing. Right. Right. OK. So also when we were in Aspen.
We were going to take you were going to go on a date. Yes. Yeah. So we had a date planned. But the longer I was thinking about it, I was like, OK, I'm in Aspen. I don't want to be stuck with one guy. I kind of want to see what's out there. So we decided to cancel the date in a very nice way, of course. And like start trying to approach guys at the bar. That's something I'm working on.
It is easy to have a date. Like we knew it was going to be at 8 p.m. We knew where the date was going to be. It was a really nice guy. You were going to go sit, plop in your lap, have a conversation.
I know dates like scary, but it's harder to go to the local bar and have to talk to guys. Yes. Like I've gone on plenty of dates in my life. I know how to have an hour long conversation. It's the same spiel over and over again, but I really, and like, I'm good at that. I'm good at dating, but I'm not good at approaching guys at the bar. I'm, I'm not confident enough yet. We're working on that. I, I,
never can make the first move but so and i asked and i was like you know what we're gonna do it we're gonna go for it and you and graham both gave me incredible tips so i feel like we should go through some of those i call it fishing like i i think of you walking around with like your fishing pole and there's like a bunch of guys and you're just like plop and it's like do they bite or not are they cute enough or not and there was a lot of cute guys young cute guys there okay
So it's funny because when we were at the bar, we went to this one bar and we were there really early. So we were like, you know what? Let's leave. See what else is out there. And then we saw this group of guys walk past. And I was like, oh, they're so annoying. Like, they're so frat boys. But like deep down, I was like, fuck, we missed out. They're hot. I wish like we were actually talking to them. Then we went to the other bar. We couldn't get in. So we're like, let's go back. First, you guys, we talked to you.
So these guys were... The thing that I think caught your eye was they were really tall. So we were at this place called Eric's Bar in Aspen. And it's underground, fun, kind of like a club bar, pool table, shuffle boards to paint the picture. I would say tall and confident. I could feel their confidence radiating off of them. They were highly confident. Yeah. So we basically... You turned... Basically a group of 10 go in and we went back to the bar. Yes. We were sitting down and...
You just went up to the bar to order a drink Yes Very organically And the guy beside you was like Hey take this shot for me I don't want to take this shot Because the group of guys was taking this shot
Yes. So that's how you got integrated into the guys. Which, from a guy standpoint, that's an incredible way to meet a girl. Like, I don't know if that was like a plan or if it just worked very organically for him because it was very smooth, like one of the smoothest interactions I've ever had with a guy. But I was like, that's genius. Order one too many shots, and then if you see a girl around, you'd be like, oh,
I accidentally ordered too many shots or I don't feel like taking this. Do you want to take it for me? Like what girl's going to say no to a free Casamigos tequila shot? Yeah. And Jordan was like, of course I'll take it. They were like, they were really nice. This was at about, this is at like nine 30. I want to say this. We were at the bar at eight and I,
Approaching hour is not eight. People don't have enough liquid courage yet. It's not even really nine. I mean, it was like 930 on the dot that it got more crowded and people started talking more. Like before that, it's very segmented off.
100%. And I feel like after COVID, 930 is kind of a good time in all aspects of the country. Like Minnesota, maybe, I don't know about Oklahoma, New York. But before it was like 11 o'clock. But I feel like 930 is a good time everywhere. At this point, we're like, we all just want to hang out. Let's just go earlier. Yeah. Yes. Okay. So the guys turn to you. We need to call them. Let's just call them like thing one and thing two. Okay. They were so nice. They were actually very nice. Yeah. Tall.
Very tall. So we were like, where? Okay, this is one of my tips I gave you. So I gave Jordan three tips. Oh, yeah. Wait, can I say something quick? Yes. When you were doing like the analogy of fishing, I was going to say that your tips will make it so I catch every fish and reel them in. Very true. Your tips are incredible. Oh, thanks. And Graham's too. Like Graham helped with these tips as well. Yeah, Graham's just saying they're kind of like listening to us both. Okay, the very first tip that I've told you is posture.
Like, it's like just, I don't know. It's so true. It's like my mom always said how you, how you stand is how you feel about yourself. Yes. And you, you said it yourself. These guys were confident and they were, they were just, they had, they, a guy too, if he has bad posture, it tells you everything. So shoulders up, back and down. And then you're like, I'm ready to talk. Number two, eye contact. Like,
There were guys there that were looking at you and it's like if you look back, it almost gives them the signal of like, yes, I'm single and you can come talk to me. Like, you know what I mean? If you just like stick them in the eyes and you're like, mm-hmm.
Honestly, at that point, it's almost like, hi, you just like say it. Eye contact's huge. I, back in 2019, pre-COVID, I was a little bit more confident. I think the confidence is lacking because of COVID. Let's just be real. We went two years without talking to anybody. But in 2019, I used to have this trick with eye contact where if you were seated at a bar that was like a square or a circle where you could see people across from you and you saw a guy you liked, you could see him.
you would make eye contact with them, hold it three seconds longer than you would, and smile. So it'd be like you're looking at them, smile, look for like two more seconds, and look away and start talking to your friend. I think that's minimizing risk. Okay, this is what I think we're doing at the bar. Minimize risk. Yes. If you're holding eye contact with somebody, because the biggest reason we don't approach somebody is the fear of rejection or the fact that they might have
girlfriend or a boyfriend so if you're holding eye contact that's no harm no foul no no girl's gonna get mad and the guy's doing it back to you yes the second that that leads me to my third point of have if you're gonna go approach a guy have a non-controversial minimal risk approach which would be my favorite question to start at the bar is hey tom or what we i guess you don't know hey guys we were making bets over there where you're from we all think you're from indiana
If a girl walks up and is like, this is my boyfriend, I'm like, oh my god, hi, I'm Jordan. We were just betting where you guys were from. Yeah. Segway. Yeah, and also I think that's something great your wing woman can do too because whenever we're together, I approach a guy and then all of a sudden you're like,
Hitting them with the questions that keeps them engaged and keeps them wanting to stay. You have, it's a game at the bar. Yeah. You even said this when, okay. All right. So let's, let's go back to the story. I guess the guys give you the shot. Yep. And then they're talking to us. We started off with guessing where they were from.
One of them happened to live in New York. Yeah. A block over from me. Ironic. And the other one lived in Florida. Yeah. And they were, but they, that was like a great conversation. Then they asked where we're from. Okay. Then we hit them with the, if you could have dinner with somebody dead or alive, who would it be? And why? I feel like if you have a list of like non-traditional questions, like,
It just makes the bar conversation so much more fun. Yes. I remember this is a side note. Back in the day, do you know Matthew Hussias? He's like a relationship god. He taught me and millions of other women. We had a solo one-on-one session together that when you go on a date with a guy, you need to ask them questions that will get them thinking because even if the date was bad, they can at least leave it being like,
That girl actually like had some cool questions that you have to make yourself stand out from the rest because there's a lot of us out here and a lot of girls are the same, especially when we're drinking. So what's going to make you stand out? That question. Totally. Okay. And then the other thing was we had Graham there. You can tell everything about a guy, especially these two guys, because they have to walk over, shake his hand. And then it's like you just segued from like them hitting on you to like,
yo bro what's up like what do you do so you get to see him like almost as though you brought them home and were introducing him to your brother like you get to see them in that atmosphere which never happens at a bar no and they were cool and Graham he liked one over the other kind of yeah he was like oh that guy's genuine and like he'll actually talk to me make eye contact and like wants to know about me the other guy the other guy started texting a lot and then we saw the background on his phone yep which one did it have
There was a girl on it. A cute little photo of not his sister. I hope not. If it's his sister, we have a whole other slew of issues. And then thanks to LinkedIn, and because we knew his job, we were able to look him up, got his last name, found his Instagram within five seconds.
Totally as a girlfriend. Yeah. Not a big deal. We picked the other guy anyways. So I think that's something to note too is if you are pursuing a guy at the bar and he's not biting back, it's not going to be a you problem. I mean, nine out of ten times it's not going to be. It could be. But it's probably because they have a girlfriend. They're talking to another girl or something else is involved in the situation. Yeah. And there's so many guys out at the bar. It's just like, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Also, another thing that I took from that situation is I need to stop acting so eager when I'm talking to a guy. I think I was like when I found out the guy lived in New York in my head, I was like, wait, this is so cool. Like, what a funny story. You meet a guy at a bar. He's actually in a different state and he actually lives right by you in New York City. Jordan's thinking signs. These are signs. Literally. I'm like serendipity. I love this. What a fun story. Will you marry me? Literally. And I think people can catch on to that and eagerness.
Is for me at least like reversing it's a little bit unattractive. It's like I need somebody like I just met you. Okay give me paint the scenario for the guys listening. What's the ideal approach? I think if a guy so everything that these two guys did like the drinks it's funny it's causes like everyone to relax a little bit.
And then getting to know one another, but still playing it cool. Like asking questions, but not too many questions, but being funny, like making jokes.
Okay, I think this takes the pressure off of guys. Yeah. So if you're like, stop flirting and hitting on me and go straight for like quirky, funny questions. A, that'll set you apart from all the other guys at the bar. But B, like, what's the pressure on that? Just have a conversation. Exactly. And like, no need to brag. We don't need to like hear why you're an Aspen or what you're doing the next day. Just make some jokes, drink some drinks and keep the conversation extremely lighthearted.
Yeah, and ask, like, what do you do for a living? Or, like, what are your, we were asking these guys, what are your hobbies? One of the questions we asked them, which I loved, was what sport, what would be your dream sporting event to go to? Yeah. And that showed us that one of them liked to travel and the other one loves to golf. Like, we had a great conversation with these guys. Yeah. And, like, something to note, too, is when you're meeting a guy at the bar, it's not a first date.
No. It is just meeting. So don't feel like you need to be asking all of these serious questions and making it into a big ordeal. Just relax. And I'm teaching myself that too, by the way. Totally. Yeah. Okay. So you said the three, you taught me something called the three sixes.
Yes. Do elaborate. And it does not have anything to do with the devil, okay? I hate that those are the three numbers, but that's just how it is. Totally. So me and my best friend from home, I have to give her credit because she helped me think of it, came up with the 3-6 rule where when we're looking for an ideal guy, they have to be above six feet, make at least six figures, and F.
Six inches. Be at least six inches. Six inches what? In the downstairs department. What is that? Their legs? Their dick. Their dick needs to be at least six inches. So Jordan has the three six rule, which she's telling me. So she's, you know, had a couple of glasses of wine at the bar. She's like, I just need a three six. And I'm like, oh, I'm very afraid to ask you what that is.
And I'll be leaning on the last one. Okay, everyone. Okay. It's better if you're like... Is six even a lot? I don't know. I don't think so. I think that's like average. It's like saying he needs to be 5'10". Oh, good. Then we're not putting pressure on their dick size. Well, you're not even going to be able to know at the bar. Maybe big dick energy. Yes. I like that better. Ooh, six inch energy. Six inch energy. Okay, I like that. I like that. Yes. Okay. Okay, so six figures...
Six feet and six inch energy. Okay. I like that. I like that too. Everybody should have six inch energy actually. Yeah. Okay. I have another question for you. These two guys were on a guy's trip where there were six guys total. They had all met there from all over the country. They went to college together and every year they take a trip together. What are your thoughts on leaving a group of friends?
Okay, so that's another thing too is I think the guys weren't super into talking to us because they were with their friends. I feel like guys at the end of the day, it's like bros before hoes all day every day, especially if they're all spending money to go on a trip together where they don't see each other very often. Like these guys were from all parts of the country. It didn't seem like they saw each other that often based off of one of the interactions where this guy literally jumped in the other guy's arms. So I think they were like, you know what, like,
We're going to be bros. And we're going to hang out with each other. I thought they did a good... Like, for the fact that they were there for 48 hours with a group of guys, they stayed and talked to us. I thought they played it well. Like, a good amount of time. But also, it's like, if you go out with a group of girls or guys in the place where you live and you go out often, like...
Yeah, go for it. Go do your thing. Like, you go to the bar, you separate away. But on a trip, I thought they were cool. Like, they talked to us a good amount, but then they went back to the guys, and they would come back and talk, and they'd go back to the guys. And I was like, that's a hard balance to strike. And they brought other guys into the conversation. It wasn't just, like, one or two. They brought another one. Like, we met...
A lot of their friends. And they would bring them over and be like, what sporting event would you go to? Yeah. You could have dinner with anybody dead or alive. Which, because those questions involves the whole group. It's not an excluding question. It's an inclusive question. Yes. Single, taken, girlfriend. Anybody can answer these questions. And then you get to know people at the bar. Yeah. Like, if anything, I'm like, Graham, you could have made a friend out of that. Yeah. I agree. I completely agree.
So let's quick just list off the three, just in case people are taking notes. Eye contact. Okay. Hold it really long. Posture. Like, put your shoulders up, back, and down. Stand up straight and go approach with that confidence. Yep. We'll call that the six-inch energy confidence. Yes. And then have good questions out of the box. Yes. Like, just keep one in your back pocket. I ask everybody, if you could have dinner with somebody dead or alive, who would it be and why? And don't say your grandma. Say somebody we all know. Mm-hmm. You learn everything about people. So use that next time because...
I saw Alex use it and it started a great conversation. Yeah, we've used it a couple times. It's fun. You can use it in any scenario. Okay. You're going to date. Yes. You guys, something happened to me in Aspen. What was that? Tell us about it. We're crying. I realized, and I don't know if it's because I spent time with Alex and Graham who...
Are the most amazing couple ever, or if it's because I was just love in the air or something. But I realized that I think I'm ready to look for a companion, not a relationship, not a boyfriend, a companionship.
So we're back on hinge. Yeah, we are. But in a way of like, you'll go, you'll still be single. You're, you're like, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want to speak for you, but like, you don't want a boyfriend, but you'd like to find a guy that you're like, I want to go on a second date. Yeah. I realized I just want to start experiencing more in New York city. And don't get me wrong. I love experiencing things with my girlfriends, but there might be
like situations where Alex is out of town with Graham or my other friend is going on a date with this guy or she's out of town and it's like, you know what? I really want to try this restaurant with this really good wine. It'd be kind of fun to try with a guy. It'd be totally fun
really fun to try it with a guy. And there's so many guys here. Yeah. And I, that just goes back to like, I want a rich man because I like to spend my money on experiences. I don't want his money for me. I want his money for him so he can keep up with me. So this, okay. So what I've learned about you, you said this on the trip, you're like, I'm not going to buy a hundred dollars shirt, but I will spend a hundred dollars on dinner. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. I will never be mad if I'm out in
like out in New York or anywhere and having a great dinner, great wine, great company, great conversations. And the bill comes and it's like 150 a person. I'm like, you know, it was worth it because I'll remember that forever. But if I'm at a store and anything is above $50, I'm like, no, I'm just going to head over to Target or H&M. We're going to shop over there. So you're an experience driven gal. Yes. I love experiences, memories much more than like clothes and things.
And you want an experience driven guy Yes Yeah I don't want a guy Who's gonna like buy me a new purse I want a guy who's like I'll buy a plane ticket to Napa So we can both go to Napa together Okay so We're back on Hinge You're gonna go on a date on Friday Oh is it really Friday? Yeah it's Friday Yeah yeah he said yes Um
No, but it's like, okay, I have to ask you this though. Why are you mad? Like, how else are you going to, I'm not mad. This guy just seems like trouble. Okay. If it's the guy I'm thinking of, is it the second guy or the first guy? It's the second guy who seems less like trouble. Oh, yeah. Okay. You know what? And you know, I'm happy I'm meeting him because he's been on my hinge since the day I downloaded it. So full circle, this is good for us. Totally. Okay. If you're a guy going on a hinge date, what would you do? Like what would make you happy?
Me? Yeah. Oh, what's the guy doing that is like, what's an ideal best first date for you? Okay, so I think there's two. You either can do the 8 o'clock meet up after work for drinks where you go to a nice bar, you have some great drinks, no dinner because remember we don't eat on the first date. Okay. Or ideally on a Thursday night or Wednesday. Or the second option could be headspace.
So have an out.
Having an out, because it's a little hard sometimes to have an out on like a Thursday night or Wednesday night. Even like I've gone on first dates where the date has gone until 3 a.m. And it's not because we go back to their apartment. It's like we just continue drinking all night. And next thing you know, we're like going out together. And I'm like, this isn't fun. So conversationally, what can the guy do that you love? Ask me the exciting questions, like the intriguing questions. Like, don't get me wrong. I think it's good to know where someone works, where they're from, blah, blah, blah. But I think the question of how to tell if someone's a fun person is...
Who do you if you could have dinner with someone dead or alive, who would you eat dinner with? If you could go anywhere in the world right now, where would you go? What's your favorite restaurant? Like just like questions that get the mind going. And then when they answer those questions, those grow legs like wherever like whoever they want to have dinner with dead or alive. If it's an entrepreneur, you're like, oh, you're interested in business. And I'm like, oh, my God, I love startup coffee shops. Whoa. Whoa.
So there's like so many places that can go. Yes. I dig a little deeper on the combos. And Alex, are you going to be attending this date with me? I am. I'm going to be attending the date. I'll be there.
Yay. Somewhere. Do we know where we're going yet? No. Okay, do we know the time? No, this... Okay, one thing, I'm... We got, like, travel delayed yesterday and, like, very delayed. And Jordan and I, it's really funny because she's so type A to the extent of, like, where am I going on this dinner date and what time? And I'm like...
What am I doing tomorrow? Yeah, we were talking about that. How I'm like, Alex, you go into Monday knowing exactly what you're going to be doing Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Or do you go into the week knowing exactly what you're going to be doing on Friday on Thursday night? Yeah, I'm a day ahead. So I don't know where you're going or when you're going. But just make sure I have my Friday after work cleared out. That's right. For this date. Correct. Okay, I can do that. And this is exciting. We're going to try getting back into the one day a week thing. So it'll be golden. And you might have a second date. We'll see. Yes, because...
We're open to that now. Yes, we are. I mean, I was before, but like now I'm actually thinking it'd be fun to have somebody like experience New York City with totally or travel with even. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I want to ask how you're doing with everything that's going on in life. Last week was a big week for you. It was last week was an eye opener for me.
I, so, like in Aspen, I didn't drink. And I had so much fun with you. Like, right now, that's just like what's best for me. Yeah. Because I'm grabbing control. And, like, even going out that night and, like, you talking to people and stuff and, like, you drinking, I had a blast. Yes. Like, I think the beauty, when you can find a relationship where,
romantic or just friend where you can have sober fun that is so important and I can have so much fun with you sober I feel like I was the same like yeah or actually better honestly you you carried that you helped me carry the conversations better and it was fun to see too like people taking the shots and stuff and I was like this is a blast to be in this atmosphere but I was just like chilling yeah I mean something we're gonna try to work on going forward is I'm
Have more fun sober. We're going to maybe try like sober Sundays where we come up with an activity that we can share with you guys on how to
have fun without drinking because I think a lot of people in their 20s struggle with that where they're like all right well I'm not in high school anymore so I don't really know if I want to like have a movie night with all my friends but I'm not in a relationship where I can just like hang out with my significant other so like what do I do other than drinking well I think you get in a rut like I think it's real it was really easy for us to be like we're gonna go to work and then we're gonna go out and that was all we did yeah and it's like
We live in the mecca of things to do. There's museums. There's places to see. There's restaurants to try. There's pottery classes. I mean, you name it, you can do it here in the city. Yes. And you and I were like, work, bar, work, bar. And it's like, mix it up a little. And so we're going to do that. Yes. I'm excited. Okay, so what's one thing that you like to do sober? Like, that's a fun activity. Oh, I mean, I love walking. I love reading. Or with friends. Oh, with friends? Or like, you can bring someone along with. Um.
Probably just like walk. I like I don't like I love being alone. So that's a really hard question for me like I
So I didn't... So when Graham stopped drinking, I didn't drink for a year and a half with him. Like, I was like, I'll just... Let me do this in solidarity with you. And I spend a lot of that time alone. So I don't know. Like, I don't have, like, a ton of hobbies. Like, I like to wander. Like, I'll go eat by myself. I'll go to movies by myself. So I'm gonna have to figure that out, how to do it with a friend. Oh, that's good. Okay, so we can do that together. Yeah. Mine would be... There's nothing I love more than...
And I mean, obviously, I live in New York City, so it's fun, but I would do this in Minnesota too. So you plan a place you're going to have a meal at. Try to make it like at least a mile or two miles away. And then you get your friends together and you have to walk to it. But see, I got... Then it's like, when do we cross the crosswalk? Like, are you...
You know, are you going to walk when the hands flashing or am I just going to walk? And then, you know, what are we talking about on that walk? Like I start, you'll be good for me because I, I think compatibility is the ability to sit in silence with somebody. Yeah. And I feel totally fine sitting in silence with you or walking with you in silence. But I used to think about doing that with a friend. I'm like, what are we talking about? Is it awkward? Do I hold the door for her? Okay. I just go to that place. So you'll be good for me. I can do all these things with you. But like, also, I think that shows that those people you thought that with weren't,
your like very, very close friends. Cause you know how once you get really close to them and you're like, I don't need to talk to you. But like the people you're just meeting, you're like, all right, I don't want to have like nothing to talk about. What am I going to do? Like a friend date. I leave those things exhausted. Okay. Yeah. So I think that just comes with time. Yes. Yes. We'll work on that. I, there's one of my friends here. We've walked very far throughout Manhattan and there's long periods of time where we say nothing to each other. We just literally take everything in. Yeah. I like that. So we can do that or find a friend who just doesn't shut up.
Yeah. Yeah. All of those things. I don't know. All right. So yeah. Sober Sunday. Sober fun coming your guys's way. I don't want. I have to say this too. The sober Sunday sounds so daunting. Like I feel like it's like Sunday. It just rhymes, Alex. Yeah. No, no, no. I know. It's just like sober Sunday to me is like. Sober activities coming your way. Does that make you happy? No, I don't like the word sober. It's like so like. Activities coming your way. I think it's more so like not at a bar. Yeah.
Non-bar activities coming your way. Okay? That's what I like. Anyways, can we get into the questions now? Yes. Okay. Okay, so something that we're going to try to do is on Sunday nights, post on the Instagram story, ask the Mean Girls anything. What's that acronym? A-M-G-A? A-M-A-G? M-A-A? Ask Mean Girls anything. A-M... Ask me... A-M-G-A. A-M-G-A? Ask Mean Girls anything. But...
I forgot to post the last thing. So I posted it at 7.30 this morning. I think it's better. Yeah. So the first question while I'm looking at these, I just know off the top of my head, is the tattoo. When are we going to get the tattoo? If Jordan and I aren't asleep this afternoon, we'll go this afternoon. Yes. Sometime this week. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully this afternoon, though, because I think it'd be just fun. Yeah, we'll see. Check the Instagram. We either got it or we didn't. Yeah, so feel free to DM us some ideas you have. We were thinking this. Well, it'll be out after.
Oh yeah you can't do that sorry guys um I mean you still can if you want I'll get more tattoos I might but also thank you for a thousand reviews that was awesome that was incredible we were like we're not gonna get it and then we're like oh we got it we and we jumped all of a sudden I woke up and I was like oh tattoo time I already know what tattoo I'm gonna get um yeah your tattoo is freaking incredible oh it's not the smiley no we're just we were gonna I was gonna say that
That would be crazy. Yeah, it'd be insane. I was actually kind of shocked that you were doing that. Now I understand. A tattoo in general. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So sometimes Alex and I are a little impulsive. Impulsive, jump the gunny. And in my head last week, I was like, yeah, I'll get that. And then this literally last night on the plane, I kept looking at my wrist like,
Do I want that on my wrist? That's what I was doing on the plane. I was like, huh? And I was like, I'm not getting it. Literally. So no, no, no, no. It will be a tattoo of some sorts, but it will not be this tongue situation. Smiley face that we got off Google in an hour that no one even drew.
We Googled smiley face with tongue out, drag and dropped it on our logo, and we're not tattooing it on our bodies. Yeah, no. I know. I almost want to get like repeats of my current tattoos because I like them so much, but we'll see. Okay. And then the other question is, so this is for you, Alex, because I don't have a significant other, but how do you balance hanging out with your significant other and your friends? Oh, I think the biggest thing you can do is...
Okay. If your significant other is somebody that's going to be your significant other forever, in my case, he's my husband, so he is mine forever. But if you were dating them as well and you're like, I want to marry this guy or I want to marry this girl, it's very important that A, your friends like them and they like your friends. And I think from there, the balance comes easy. Like if...
There's a hierarchy, right? So when you get married, husband trumps all kind of thing. And so if he has a problem with some of your friends, like address that early on. And if your friends have a problem with him, also address that early on. Like there's nothing worse than having that like awkward energy that you don't need between like your significant other and your friends. If they like each other...
It's beautiful because they don't like if you came over for dinner every night, Graham's going to love that. Right. Like I get so much time with him that welcoming welcoming in like a friend comes easy and naturally and fun. Also, maybe I'm lucky, but like he likes to go out with us and he likes to do things with us and we like to do things with him. So I think the balance comes naturally if everyone gets along. Yeah. Two things. One, I think you said it perfectly. But if.
Your friends and your significant other like each other. Everything is amazing. Like...
I love hanging out with you alone. I love hanging out with you and Graham. Like, I love Graham so much. It doesn't bother me if he's with us. It's not like in the back of my head. I'm like, I would really just like to have some AB time. Right. I also, I think it's very important that the person doesn't change. So if I was different in front of Graham than I was in myself, I think that would be a really big problem. Yeah. And that would create an awkward scenario. So if you feel that you change when you're like with your boyfriend versus like with your friends, maybe think about that. Yeah. And also like...
If you feel like you need to change too, like if I felt like I had to be a different person around you and Graham versus just you, then I should probably reevaluate that. Totally. But what I say in front of you, I can say in front of him. One more thing? One more thing? Oh, of course. Okay, so we're two girls. Graham's the guy. In another scenario, it would be two guys with the girl. The...
Or it could be three girls. Like, whoever is the non-friend version, so in this scenario it's Graham, I think they have a little bit extra duty to make the friend feel welcome. That's extreme, but like... Wait, I'm confused. Okay, so you and I are already friends. Yes. And Graham is my significant other. Yes. I think the significant other in this scenario, no matter what gender, have a little...
to do to make the friend feel welcome. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a really, actually, that's a really great point. You know, like, don't be like, oh, I'm just here with, like, my wife and her friend. It's like, no, make the friend, like, step up to the plate and make the friend feel welcome because you're already bonded to one person in the triangle. Yes. And three's a hard number. Yes. So make it easier. Also, just coming from, like, a single person standpoint, like,
If I could go back and change anything in my past relationships, it would have been to have more balance with my friendships and my boyfriend. Because when you're in a relationship, like you don't know if it's going to be permanent. So you don't want to break up with that significant other and be like, crap, I don't have any friends or vice versa.
can like give your friends too much and then have your significant other be like well you know what you literally hang out with your friends six days a week and you hang out with me one day a week like this isn't just gonna work so balance is everything it's hard but it's everything all all eggs in one basket is bad until there's a ring oh I love that you know what I mean it's balance balance balance and sometimes you think no he's gonna be I am gonna marry him and no my friends are all idiots and it's like sweetheart
Hold on. Yes. Because you never know what life will throw at you. Exactly. Exactly. I love that. I feel like with that, that's a good place to wrap up unless you have anything to add. No, just like, comment, subscribe. Send it to a friend. Yes. Make sure you're following Mean Girl Pod on Instagram, TikTok, Instagram.
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