Hour 1, Segment 3 - Barry Ulmer 15:18

Roy asks the executive director of the Chronic Pain Association of Canada to weigh in on his interview with federal health minister Dr. Jane Philpott about chronic pain patients who rely on opioids to live a normal life.

Guest: Barry Ulmer, executive director of the Chronic Pain Association of Canada

(Photo: Rich Pedroncelli/The Canadian Press)

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