Grayson Chrisley Gets Real 43:31

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- Here we are back with one of our most watched guests, Grayson. - What'd you expect? - What do you mean, what did I expect? - Savannah, I'm a man of the people. - You are a man of the people. - Hey, quality over quantity. - Yeah. - I come in, deliver, and take a couple months off, then I come back. - Yeah, you did tell me you had to wait in between coming on. - I did. You can't oversaturate it. - Oversaturate it? - Can't. - Why do you think you're so amazing? - Savannah.

Hey, people lie, numbers don't. People lie, numbers don't. I can really see you having like your own podcast and it being not one that I would watch, but I think it would go viral. Yeah, I think it'd be pretty amazing. Because you have some interesting viewpoints.

Right viewpoints. Right viewpoints? Yeah. Okay. 99% of them. Okay, 99% of them. Got it. So, thank you for coming today. You're welcome. You've actually saved me because this episode is going to air. What else is new? What else is new? This episode is going to air when, potentially, I'm out of the country. Good luck with that. For two weeks. No, good luck with...

is with you i'll be fine you're gonna be with nanny fay oh i know you will be with nanny fay um i can't say where i'm going or what i'm going for yet but stay tuned that's all i have to say it's gonna be eventful i'm very eventful you will see it uh so i'm really excited for that do you think i'm gonna i'm gonna kill it yeah i don't know i think it'll be interesting what

You don't know? No, I think he'll do good. I know you won't quit. Will you finish all of them? Probably not. I am not a quitter. We Chrisleys are not quitters. No, not something we identify with. Sometimes it's bad. Yeah. Sometimes it's bad. Okay, so you're going to be heartbroken that I'm gone for two weeks. Definitely. Definitely. 100%. Okay, so I do want to talk about something because there was an article that came out about it. What? Um.

Actually, I probably shouldn't because it may get you in trouble. No. No? No. Okay, we won't talk about that because there was an article that came out about it. Okay. You commenting under...

Oh, shit. Who's? Alabama Barkers. That's actually funny. I thought it was something else. No. I don't care. That's funny. Okay. Yeah. So you commented under Alabama Barkers Instagram. I did. And there was a article that came out about it. That's fine. Like I said, we're married. She doesn't know it yet. Y'all are married. She just doesn't know it yet. Nope. Does not. It was like the most liked comment under a post. Oh, dear God. Help me. Yeah.

I can't. And then she like viewed my story right after. It was pretty funny. Okay. What a plot twist. No one ever expected. That's what the comment said. This is the crossover I never expected, but I'm here for it. Okay. I think it would be interesting. I think she is the cutest girl. Like naturally when she doesn't put all of her makeup and stuff on, she is so freaking cute. Yeah, so do I. Lord help me. Please. That's why I commented.

God bless us all. God bless us all. Okay. So Grayson and Alabama Barker, the crossover we never knew that we needed. There's that. What else is due in your life?

Not really anything. Not really anything? No. No. Same old stuff. We're getting by. We are getting by. What did you say before we started this podcast? It's not as bad as I thought it was. I thought it was going to be torture. Torture. See, I'm doing pretty good. Yeah, not too bad. The other

day though I did throw my hands up and say do whatever in the hell you want to do. I don't care anymore. The only issue is that you and I are both two combative people. We are. And you put two people like that in a household together it's

Oh, Hey, we've done better though. We have, we've done better. You have called me out. I have said, Grayson is more mature than a lot of us in certain areas because he has said, please don't yell at me. Like, let's talk through this. Don't have an attitude. Like doesn't just like does not resolve anything. Like we can choose to have this 45 minute argument and solve nothing. Or you can talk like a grownup and figure it out in five minutes. You decide. Okay.

Well, you also have to realize we are growing up together. We're only nine years apart. I know. It's crazy. So never in a million years did I think my brother would be living with me. Can you believe I have 350 something days? That's my main source of income starts. What are you talking about? Only fans. Grayson, you're not starting an OnlyFans. What? Okay. What do you think your content would be? Hey, that's for the subscribers to find out.

Okay, well, not doing OnlyFans. Not happening. Listen, if Bad Baby can make 50 million, I can secure the bag. It's all I'm saying. It goes through your mind. I'm a businessman. That looks like a very nice business opportunity. Does it? Yes. You want your kids to see that stuff?

No, but they're not going to. What is on TV is forever. I'm going to tell them and be like, listen, you know that real nice car you got out there? That's what paid for it. Shut up. God. Dude, I can't with you. You start campaigning it now. No, you're not campaigning anything now. I will. No, not happening. We'll cross this bridge when the time comes. Yeah, we will most certainly cross this bridge. Right now it's a yes.

It's the what? Right now it's a yes. Okay. All right. We're going to come up with a better business plan for you because OnlyFans is not going to cut it. If all else fails, I got it. All right. All else fails. Well, all else is not going to fail. So we're good. Don't have to worry about it. Who knows? Oh my gosh. Okay. So the past what? Your birthday, 17th birthday just happened. I know. And how'd you feel? Feel the same. Feel the same? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't really feel a difference. Okay. How was your birthday? Was it a hard day? Was it an okay day? It was alright. It wasn't as bad as you thought it probably would have been? No, it sucked. But... Okay. I mean, it wasn't the greatest birthday I've ever had. But I tried. I didn't expect it to be, though, because, like, mom and dad aren't there, so... Yeah. So it kind of sucked. Yeah. I didn't expect it to be great. Okay. I did get ninja creamy, though. You did? Nice.

Y'all, that's literally what this 17-year-old asked for for his birthday. It was a Ninja Creamy. Makes ice cream, bro. Makes ice cream smoothies, smoothie bowls, milkshakes, sorbet. And Savannah won't even teach me how to use it either, which pisses me off, but it's whatever. I'm sorry. I did it.

I don't have anything going on. Savannah goes, we'll do it this weekend. We're in Atlanta for baseball this weekend. Exactly. My point. Exactly. We're going to the Braves game for your birthday. Huh? Where you have baseball tournament. Then I go see mom on Monday because it's federal holiday. Wow. And then back here to start the rat race all over again.

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Okay, so everyone has been asking how Grayson is doing. And I said, after one podcast, I would no longer give updates on you. I would let you do it yourself. So what, how are you doing? And what advice would you give to kids who are in your position? Because regardless of what people want to believe or not, the amount of direct messages I've gotten of people who are going through exactly what you're going through is insane. I mean, I'm all right.

But it's like, I mean, sometimes you kind of just got to look at it and be like, well, this is your situation now and you can't change it. So you got to make the best of it. You kind of just got to keep going. But what do you, what's like something that helps you when you're feeling down? Playing golf or going to the gym. That's your go-to. Yeah. That's, that's my go-to. Some days or weeks are harder than others, but. What makes it harder?

Just thinking about it. It's usually like the week after going to see one of them. Really? Or really it's like, I feel like the day after for you, which is weird because like for me. That's why I kind of struggle going back to back weeks. Cause I feel like I kind of, I'm in that mood until about Thursday or Friday and then go and start it all over again. Yeah. And never really get out of it. Well, see for me, I feel renewed after going and seeing them.

I do, but I also don't at the same time. Yeah. I'm good Saturday. Sunday is when it hits me. And then Sunday to Thursday is bad. And then we go on Friday again and then it's just the same thing. You never really get out of it. But how do you make the best of it? I mean, at least you can see them. Okay. I feel like one time when you and I butt heads is like when I kind of, we kind of get into it about going. I mean, it's not that I don't want to go.

- Yeah. - But I'm also 17. - Yeah, you are and I think that's a hard balance that we have yet to find is not feel, but then it's also hard because there are some weekends you don't wanna go, but then the hard part is is when you don't go, our schedules don't align. - I know. - And then you don't see one of them for three or four weeks and then you're struggling 'cause you haven't seen them for that long. - I know, so it's like a damned if you do, damned if you don't. - Yeah.

Which is tough because no one should ever be put in that position. But it's also hard because they tell you, you got to live your life. You're 17 years old. Yeah. You can't spend every weekend going. And then when you don't go, you still feel bad even though they said that. Yeah. Even though you know they understand, but it's like you still feel bad. Yeah. Can you talk about why you feel renewed from going and why you feel heavier, Greg? Because that's just like different sentiment. I think it's part of the, it's like the opposite of like,

Well, to me, it's worse than them dying. Because they're here, but they're not here. So, like, it's just time that's being wasted. At least, like, I'm saying, like, if they died, you know, there's no possible way for you to get any more time with them. It's like it's over. You're forced to have closure. Yeah. And also, like, you don't have...

that's time you know that like no time's being wasted yeah but now you know they're here but they're not here so all that time's being wasted but do you not try to see it from a perspective of like at least you they're still here for you to hug and say i love you i mean yeah but i get to do all of that within a time limit yeah like is it cool yeah but is it like it's tough for you to process yeah

Well, yeah, I couldn't imagine. That's what I've said, which is why it's so hard for me with you and Chloe, because I know how I feel. I couldn't imagine how y'all feel as two kids. No, I just get in that same cycle every week. And I'm just like, I gotta take a weekend off. Yeah. I gotta take a weekend off. Yeah. But we do try to make the most of it. Like, especially when going to see dad this trip, we didn't do that too good of a job, but in other trips, like we'll go do something fun. We'll go out to eat. Well, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

That's not... Seeing mom's not the hard part. Yeah. Seeing dad's the hard part. Why do you think that is? Because it's all weekend. Yeah. And it's like... Well, it's hard because that weekend, on a weekend of seeing dad, is a total of 15 hours driving. I loved when we flew there, saw him, and flew back same day. Yeah. If we could do that every weekend, that'd be the most... That'd be the greatest thing ever. But it's hard because he is so far away. I know. But also, too, I think...

The older you get to, the easier... I mean, it's just... The sad part is, is it's our new normal. So you have to get used to some sort of routine with it. Until the situation turns around. And I feel like one thing... You try to keep up a pace, that's impossible to keep up. I know. What we're doing right now... Is impossible. And you say that one of them should have a visitor every weekend. Well, they should. They probably should. With the amount of children... With the likelihood...

Think about it. For seven years, them having a visitor every single weekend, that's impossible. It's not possible. I think for me, the hard part is I know how much they've sacrificed for us. So why can't we sacrifice now for them? Yeah. I mean, yeah. But it's also different. How so? Because they chose to have kids. It's the truth. They chose. Yeah. Yeah.

We didn't choose to be here. We were just here. Yeah. So they didn't have a choice. They had to. So how do you think you take this experience and not become bitter from it? Because that's what you and I've talked about. To be honest, I don't know if it's possible. But... I don't think it is. There's always going to be... Don't sit here and lie and say you're not bitter. There's always going to be a part of you that is bitter. Well, of course. There is some anger that I have. But also...

Watching you and Chloe, even like it solidifies my view on the system because the chances of you guys suffering from anxiety, depression, drugs, alcohol, all suicide, all these things, the chances of that are automatically escalated. The system doesn't care about people like me and Chloe. System doesn't care about the people in the system.

So people don't realize. System same it was 30 years ago. Yeah. That's the hard part is there are a lot of children that are just forgotten. Other countries laugh at us. When it comes to our prison system, other countries, their recidivism rates are extremely low. They look at us and they're just like, yeah, they just love to put their own people in prison. Yeah, it is sad. Other countries don't want to do it.

You're correct. I mean, it's sad, the things that are happening. But it's sad to see children that unfortunately have to suffer. And so my goal is to figure out how we make that suffering less.

Which is almost impossible because your parents aren't here. But also if I can step up and try to teach you and do fun things and try to take your mind off of it. And that's something I've tried to explain to you is it's impossible to make everything good. Yeah. Like it's not possible. Yeah. There's no good way around both of your parents being in prison. There's no good way around it. That's one thing that there's no good solution to until they get out.

So there's no way around it. It's going to suck for as long as they're there. But also too, I think I, one thing that I appreciate from you and love you so much for was you said like, Hey, you're doing a really good job. Like I know it may feel like you're not, but like you're doing a good job. You're a kid raising two kids.

Yeah, that is very accurate. Well, it pisses me off as things like you have to deal with on a day to day basis. And like everybody else thinks that you're just like sitting around, you know, like going out to nice dinners, going on vacation all the time. That would not be accurate. No, it's not. But also, too, I think I have gotten to the point to where I'm finally able to let that go because I know I'm doing the best that I can possibly do. And the funny thing is it's the people that don't do anything to help.

Well, it is everyone. But what you have to realize is everyone is dealing with things the best way that they know how to deal with it right now. Yeah. But I'm trying to give people grace in that aspect. They're allowed grace until I act like they're the only ones going through it.

Then that's when they're not allowed grace. Cause then you sit and act like you're the only one dealing with it. You're not. I know. Multiple other people dealing with it, dealing with the same thing you're going through. But you also have to realize that everyone deals with the same way that we do. But you and I, you can't survive just moping around, laying around all the time, but it's not going to change the situation. No, it's not. But also you and I, our downfall, our negative trait is maybe how tough we are on people.

We could be a little more understanding, sympathetic. I'm not understanding or sympathetic because 99% of people are not sympathetic towards you. They look at you and they're like, yeah, you're going through this bad situation, but you have more money than I do, so you're fine. They don't give you sympathy. No. That's my point. But you're still going through the stages of grief. People don't realize this world is awful.

Yeah. And at one point, you got to stop caring about everybody else and focus on yourself and your family. That's it. I don't care about anyone else other than my family. That's it. I hate to say this, but I don't care what happens to other people. I care what happens to me and my family because those other people don't care about what happened to me and my family. I mean, that is true. People only care about what affects them directly. That's the point. You have seen betrayal at such a

a close view. So that is why you're so angry. And so, because I still feel the anger a lot. And that's something we have to work through because by you being angry, you're giving someone else that much power over you. So that's why we keep moving. We keep our day going. We keep being successful at the things that we're doing because out of all of us, you are,

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I try to fix it. She tries to fix it and a part of me doesn't want her to.

All right, say that. Why is it? Is that invalidating the... No, it's just a feeling that I felt for so long that I don't want to feel any different. You always want to fix everything, like fix emotions, fix everything. And a part of me doesn't want you to. Why though? I don't want to fix it. Why don't you want to fix it? Because there's no way to fix it until they get out. There's no way to fix it. So stop trying because it just pisses me off even more. But do you think the feeling that you have...

you're comfortable in it in a weird way. - Yeah, very. - But why? - Like they say, you'd rather deal with the devil you know than the devil you don't. - Well, and I say that because, but I have lived, which is so crazy looking at you now, because for all of my life, for all of my life, I have lived with a certain hurt that it's like, all right, I don't wanna let go of this 'cause I don't know who I'm gonna be without it. - There's some things that I won't let go. There's certain things that I will not let go until I die.

But why would you, why do you want to live life that way? Because I feel like I have to. Why? What's your thought process with that? I'm real big on like, if you do one thing, I'm done forever. I have a very bad character trait where like, I can be friends with somebody for years and

And then if they do something to show me something like that, I'm done instantly. I can cut them off, never speak to him ever again and be fine. But I think the reason you feel that way, which is a positive and a negative, is because you are such a good person that you haven't done anything poorly to anyone yet. It's all temporary. But you haven't done anything poorly to anyone yet. The older you get, the more...

big mistakes that you're going to make and you're going to want to seek forgiveness from people. I just feel like it's all temporary. Like, am I going to be friends with these people probably 20 years from now? Probably not. So what's the point of me wasting my time now? There's no point. And I don't trust people because of the betrayal that we've seen. Like trying to find a way to go around it. But if you can't trust people like that, you sure as hell can't trust people out here.

But I don't want you to view things as so temporary. Like I said, some things, but it is temporary. It is. They're your friend. They're not your family. Everybody loves to say, oh, this person's family. This person's basically family. They're not. They're a friend. And if something comes along one day that's going to benefit them by turning on you, they're going to do it. I mean, unfortunately. 99% of people. In the climate we live in right now, yes.

I talk to people, but I keep them at arm's length. Don't tell them anything. Okay. So what right now at the stage that you're in, what could I do better to assist you in the stage and feelings? There's nothing. There's really nothing. And one thing that I've seen like this whole thing with mom and dad has affected me with is like relationships. Like at this point, I don't care about losing people. Like because I've lost my mom and dad.

So I don't care about losing people. If I break up, cool, done. It doesn't affect me. But that, you shouldn't. But in my head, it's like I've lost my mom and dad. So that feeling is not even going to compare to this. It's like, why am I going to sit here and have a feeling about it? I'm not. So I'm just done. I feel like, of course, when you lose the people closest to you, it affects you.

But you don't want to treat people as if they're disposable. They're not. But also, you don't get what I'm saying is I've lost my mom and dad. That feeling is at the top. So this feeling of me losing this relationship here, this relationship here, I'm not going to care because I've already felt that maximum level of hurt that nothing else is even going to like draw an emotion. Which I hate. Because you're so desensitized to it because of the amount of hurt you felt.

So you just don't care. Which I hate because that... I've had moments in my life where you just always compare a hurt to a hurt. And because it's like in your mind, oh, this can't hurt me because that hurt me even more. What I said earlier is people are temporary. Everyone is. You're not going to be here forever. Even your parents are temporary. They're not here forever. They're not here right now. Unfortunately, you just view like the... I mean, you...

I feel like I try to fix everything and you just have the harsh truth of it all. That's the truth. And you can't live in like some fairytale world to make yourself feel better because eventually you're going to, it's going to make it 10 times worse. You got to expect to be disappointed. So if it doesn't happen, you're like, oh, cool. And once it happens, you're like, I expected it. But do you want me to feel the hurt that you're feeling right now? No. So why do you allow yourself to feel that hurt if you don't want me feeling it? Because I'm used to it.

I don't want to feel anything different. But you do. No, it doesn't. I feel like it helps me see people better. Because if you're happy all the time and just like living in your own fairytale world, that's how you miss stuff. That's how you miss stuff. That's how people do shit behind your back and screw you over. Because you missed it because you were living in your fairytale world not paying attention to shit. You're not 17.

You're like 40. If you stay looking into everybody you're speaking to, even your friends or anything, you won't miss anything. That's why I say you shouldn't have a ton of friends. Because the more friends you add, the higher the probability of you getting fucked over is. Just look at it. It's the truth. You're not talking about probability. It's the truth. The more friends you have, the higher the chances of you getting fucked over is.

So if you keep your circle very small, you only got to pay attention to two or three people. But if you have 10 or 15 friends, that's 10 or 15 people that could screw you over instead of the three that you got to look out for. I hate the complexities of life. Yeah, so does everybody else, but shit doesn't change. I will not go to Grayson if I ever need a feel-good moment. Listen, this life's just one shit storm after the other.

Okay. You just got to learn how to prepare for them. I mean, that is very accurate. That's all it is. Okay, so how do we maybe get out of such a negative mindset? I don't know. Our life's been pretty damn negative. Okay, but we can get out of it. What would be a good restart for you? Them getting out of prison, like I said. Well, that's not going to happen right now. That's my point. That's what I said, is you can't solve anything right now. That's what I said.

Three times. You can't solve anything right now. There's nothing that you can solve right now. Okay, well then I think if your passport ever comes in, I just want to leave for a month.

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Yeah, but that's a temporary. That's temporary. Temporary solution. Am I going to be better for a month? Yeah. But when I get home, it's the same story. Okay. So have you ever taken time? Because you and I are very similar. You'll get in your car, turn on music. Like music is what you run to. Yeah. I have 5,000 songs on Spotify. Do you ever just sit in the quiet? No. What is your fear of that? Because I'll think about all of it.

All at one time. What's so bad about that? Because I don't want to. I'm already reminded enough of it every day. I don't need to remind myself anymore. You have to feel to break through. I feel enough. That's what I can't get anybody to understand. Okay. And also, people try to push me to voice my emotions. I don't want to. I don't want to. So don't push me to do it. Okay. Try not to start any phrase with but for the rest of the time you're not talking. Okay.

and i'm an older sister too i get it i'm not in a situation it was something that's up with sean even if i was happy with me too i would do anything to try to get him out of it i'm like okay but have you tried this okay but i haven't heard this okay but why okay but can you be more positive and i think where he's like that's not necessarily helping it's not possible yeah but you're doing it there's no possible way to fix it until they get out yeah you're doing everything you can and he knows that i think

I think honestly, this podcast has been very insightful for me and to you because I have to get to a place where I am good at leaving you where you're at because you have to keep in mind ever since you were a baby. I know. Like it makes me cry thinking about you as a baby because ever since you were a baby, like I just wanted to fix it. I wanted to take you and do whatever and make sure you were happy and you weren't crying and you weren't.

Like you were my little baby. The hardest part for you is this is something you can't fix. That's how you're just like, you're just like dad. Dad wanted to fix everything he possibly could. If anybody was hurting or needed something, he wanted to fix it all. Yeah. But some things you can't, some things you cannot fix. Yeah. And that's what you just need to accept. It's like, this is a situation that you're in that you're doing all you can, but you can't fix it. It's impossible. Yeah.

And I just have to... And two, everyone deals with grief differently. Like, we are as similar as we are. We're that much different. I feel like one thing this whole thing's done is made me look out for myself more. Look out for my... I used to care about other people a lot, but now I don't. Why do you think that is? Because I saw how other people didn't care about me. I saw how other people saw how we were going to be affected by it and didn't care. When a judge says they don't care about you and just...

Continue to entertain the idea of 35 years to life for your dad is kind of changes your whole perspective on people when I couldn't imagine as a kid when a prosecutor sits there and she says This is my least favorite part of the job bullshit. You love this you get off on this You love seeing us sit in the stand and cry you love that to see a 16 year old

a 10 year old, a 25 and a 26 year old crying in the stand and celebrate, celebrate because you just put their parents in prison for a good chunk of their life.

For a combined 19 years. You have to be a different level. But when you, the way that you just said that though, of when you hear all these other people that don't care about you, how do you think you take this and you help a kid who's sitting at home right now feeling exactly how you feel, but that may not have other family members around? I can't help other people though. So I can't help myself. So am I going to help other people? You have to realize how bad it is.

Because it's bad. Both of your parents are in prison. There's no good way around it. There's no way to twist it. There's nothing. It's not going to be good till they get out. That's what you have to realize. You can't live every day thinking the next day is going to be better than the last because it's not because the circumstances didn't change. Yeah. Every day you live like that is another day you wake up disappointed. Like I said, expect it. So when it happens, you're not disappointed.

I have said that same thing. They're not going to be out tomorrow. Expect the worst, so when the worst happens, it's not that bad. They're not going to be out tomorrow. They're not going to be out the next day. They're not going to be out next week or next month. Yeah. You need to know that. Wow. I think for me, what I do is I have to pray about it, and I know that there is nothing that God can't fix. There is no place that God won't intervene.

And when you are being faithful and you, even though it may seem like all the cards are stacked against us, I have seen glimpses of hope. One thing that dad told me the day before he left, people want to see us fall. They love it. They love seeing you get to the top. They love seeing you fall. He said, everybody wants to be us until they realize how heavy the crown is. You want to be at the top until you got to deal with everything at the top.

And then you hope for a simple life. Exactly. That's what he told me the day before he left. Well, I just have to say I'm proud of you. Thank you. And I love you. I love you. And you know I'm here. I know. And you're living with me for a really, really long time. I know. You're not allowed to leave me. I know. I know a choice. Because I will feel abandoned. I'm putting that pressure on you. You'll be stuck with Chloe for eight more years. You can't do that to me. You can't do that to me.

Because you are creating a monster that you are going to try to leave me with. I know. Okay. Well, on that note, we will end this podcast. Erin gives the best advice. So I really want to keep some of her advice in there. But I love you and I'm proud of you. And I will be grateful for your hatred of people today. But let's hope that that viewpoint changes. It probably won't. Well, please don't hate me. I love you. I love you.

See?

See you next Tuesday.

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