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On Sydney's 2GB, this is Drive with Chris O'Keefe. Good afternoon, Sydney. It's a lovely winter's day, isn't it?

And hopefully, we are hoping, of course, the cold is just slowly starting to head to the northern hemisphere. Of course, spring, only a few weeks away. Now, I'll have all the fallout from the Reserve Bank's decision to keep the cash rate on hold. And we'll also check the markets to see if they've improved from yesterday's round. It was a bad one. And on the decree from the Premier that work from home is over, well, I reckon it is a really ill-thought-out move.

Flexible work is here to stay, and this move, I reckon, targets working mums more than anyone else, and it's really unfair. I'll explain why I reckon it'll just be flat-out ignored in just a second. And have you ever noticed when you tap your card to pay for something, and then you've all of a sudden got a text message on your phone with a receipt saying,

Well, how did the vendor get your mobile number? And are the banks now passing on our contact details when we buy stuff? Well, we'll investigate that one. Lots to give away too. $200 of free petrol, a $100 Visa card, a double pass to the Total Legends gig in Rudy Hill. Daryl Braithwaite and Marsha Hines, how good. Right now, 18 degrees at Hurstville Grove and 18 at South Wentworthville.

It's eight and a half past three, 131 873 is the open line number. You can send me an email drive at 2gb.com or the text line 0460 873 873. Well, this is a tragic, tragic story. A Newcastle doctor and father of three. His name is David Hogben.

Now, he's been identified as the victim of a crocodile attack in a river in far north Queensland. Now, our thoughts and prayers, of course, with the Hogburn family, but what a terrible story. Nine News reporter James Wilson is all over this one, and he joins me on the line. James, g'day. G'day, Chris. So, what happened to David? What are the circumstances around the croc attack?

Well, it's just this afternoon that we're actually hearing a lot more detail around what unfolded on Saturday afternoon. And these details have partly come from David's wife, Jane. Through Jane's sister, Alexis Carey, is actually a reporter for 9news.com, but for news.com, I should say, rather. So this has come through her. It's one of those unfortunate circumstances where a reporter finds themselves knowing a victim that they're reporting on. But we have direct quotes from Jane, David's wife, who speaks about

the 40-year-old going for a walk along the riverbank of the Annan River near Cooktown, right up far north Queensland, when the riverbank collapsed. They had some heavy rain in the last few weeks and he's collapsed and fallen about 15 metres into the riverbank. Now, Jane is quoted...

as saying she scrambled down the riverbank to try and pull him out of the water, but watched him get taken by a crocodile in front of her eyes. And I'll read that direct quote out to you, Chris. Jane, David's wife, said, He saved me. His last act was to not pull me in with him. I'm glad I'm still here because it would have been a million-fold worse for everyone involved, not just my boys. And those three...

Those three young boys, Chris, all under the age of five, were only a few hundred metres away. Thank goodness they didn't witness this themselves, but obviously feeling the after effects of it now and for the rest of their life. So what do we know about David? What were they doing up in Cooktown? Well, they'd been there a number of times in the past. They were on a holiday of a lifetime. David loved four-wheel driving and fishing and camping, and they were just on a family holiday. They'd posted photos, which we've now received, just days before doing what they do best, which is...

being outdoors and loving nature. And David wasn't naive or ignorant to the dangers that the far north Queensland rivers pose. He was well-versed in camping and he wasn't doing anything silly or fishing, which other reports have suggested in the past few days, which is part of the reason why Jane, his wife, took to the media to clarify some of the details around this. Now, we heard yesterday that authorities actually shot David

a 4.9 metre saltwater crocodile up there. Today it's been confirmed that human remains have been found inside that crocodile and although they're not confirmed to be David's, you can put two and two together at this point. Alright, David, a doctor from Newcastle. How are his colleagues feeling?

Yeah, so David and his wife, Jane, are actually both doctors and they work at the Jules Medical Centre, which is in the Lake Macquarie region. A lot of small communities up there, we've had reporters who've spoken to the Jules Medical Centre as well as another medical centre up in Windale. And obviously, his colleagues are really, really upset. We spoke to

one of the GPs at the Jules Medical Centre. And I'll quote here, Chris, they said, "He was a lovely... "He was the most lovely, friendly, upbeat person "and will be greatly missed by all of his colleagues and friends. "We are devastated with sadness for David's wife, Jane." And these are similar remarks being felt all across the community. His friends, his family and local community members just cannot speak highly, you know, more highly of these beautiful people, Jane and his husband, David.

James Wilson, I appreciate you jumping on. Thanks so much. Thanks, Chris. Terrible story. James Wilson there from Nine News. David Hogben, 40 years old, Newcastle doctor, father of three, taken by an almost five-metre saltwater crocodile while on holiday in Cooktown in far north Queensland. Worst of all, taken in front of his wife.

131873. Now, in the Middle East, there's been some developments in the last hour or so. U.S. intelligence has reportedly briefed President Joe Biden that Iran's retaliatory attack on Israel is likely to take place in two waves, one from Iran...

and the other by Hezbollah in Lebanon or other Iranian proxies and is likely to happen within the next 24 to 48 hours. Now, the Wall Street Journal is reporting that Iranian missiles have been seen moving into place and military exercises have been seen underway. Israeli Defence Force

The leaders of the IDF have told Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the chances of escalation on the northern front are increasing and it would be prudent to lead the initiative. We must undermine the enemy's perception that we are waiting for their move, i.e. they are being told, the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to act first, strike first.

Now, this crisis is ongoing and President Joe Biden has been briefed on it. Former President Donald Trump, he believes that this attack from Iran will occur in the next 24 hours. He said that is his information. He has said that publicly.

Now, you've seen the US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin. He's ordered additional firepower to the Middle East ahead of an expected attack, including an F-22 fighter squadron armed with air-to-air weapons capable of shooting down incoming missiles. And the USS Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier strike group,

It's currently in the Pacific. Well, it's been ordered to head to the Gulf to replace the USS Theodore Roosevelt to maintain an aircraft carrier presence in the region. So lots of movement there in the Middle East as it stands right now, as the conflict we hoped it wouldn't spill over into a regional one, but it feels like we're on the cusp of that happening, unfortunately. 131873. MUSIC

Now, working from home, working from home, I think just generally there's the Minsk government's decision is arbitrary and overall a pretty bad idea. And I'll tell you why it's a pretty bad idea. And I've been someone who spent my whole working life without the ability to work from home. So initially it all just felt like a bit of a bludge to me.

But I have changed my mind, and I'll tell you why. So if you're a young family with a Sydney mortgage, school fees, childcare fees and associated costs, you can't survive on a single income. Both mum and dad have to work to be able to meet your expenses. Not to mention society has spent the last 30-odd years rightly supporting and encouraging women to chase careers. Those careers pay well, they're fulfilling...

and should be able to continue even during the child-rearing years. We all understand that. We all support that. So the opportunity to work from home, say, I don't know, on a Monday or a Friday, whereby mum or dad can ditch the hour-odd commute into the office, still get their work done while balancing family commitments helps on this front, doesn't it? The work gets done, the family saves hundreds of dollars a week in travel costs and childcare fees. It's a win-win.

But the Premier seems to think no, it is not. Chris Minster seems to think that work from home is bad for productivity and he has ordered the NSW Public Service back into the office. My question is this, does he have any proof that working in the office or working from home I should say is bad for productivity?

Has anyone from the Premier's office or anyone in the Department of Premier done any work on Chris Minns' decree? Is it justified? Where are the facts and figures? Look, I agree that working from home five days a week in almost all cases is too much.

But from today, as ordered by Chris Minns and his secretary Simon Drapers, incomprehensibly dense missive to staff, all NSW public servants must work five days a week in the office. Well, that's what I think it says anyway. It is a major overcorrection and I guarantee you it will be largely ignored across the public service. Josh Murray, he's the boss of Transport for NSW said,

And he seems to agree with me. I've been leaked an email where he effectively is telling his managers, this was sent yesterday to his 100 senior executives in Transport for New South Wales, he's effectively told them, ignore the Premier and Simon Draper's decree.

Mr Murray's email says this. Well done, Josh Murray.

That's how a manager should react to such an arbitrary decision from up high. Thanks, Simon. Thanks, Chris Minns. Thanks for your advice, but we shan't be following it. The politics of this is dumb.

Chris Minns has singled out working mothers more than any other group. And it is women he is targeting, unfortunately, ask Victorian Premier Jacinta Allen. She said this, quote, We know that flexibility in the workplace helps more women stay in work and more women in the workforce is better for everyone. Any public servants from New South Wales who like flexibility in their workplace should consider moving to Victoria.

Now, Premier Minns' team argue that work from home doesn't work as well for women because they end up needing to do more housework when at home. And they miss out on mentorship because they're less likely to ask for feedback and guidance if they're remote versus sitting near their boss. Now, I asked a professional working mother, a professional working mother who is employed by the public service, I asked her about this.

And her response was this, quote, Now, is this really all that clever from Chris Minns? Just to get some shallow headline into the newspaper. He claims this is mandatory, but outside of getting the cops knocking on people's doors...

The government departments, I guarantee you, will ignore Chris Minns and they will certainly ignore the Department of Premier and Cabinet boss, Simon Draper, an individual that very few of the department heads respect. And I reckon there will be more than one department secretary, just like Josh Murray, flat out ignoring Chris Minns on the work from home front.

As they should, to be honest. Because this will be one of those things where legitimately nothing changes except men's just getting a swathe of working mums offside. That is the reality of society at the moment. You need two incomes and flexible work-from-home arrangements allows women to be both a mum and an employee.

As long as the work gets done, does it really matter? What do you make of it? 131873. 21 past three. I didn't realise I could stick with my industry super fund when I retired. Thankfully, I discovered if I stayed, I could set up a regular income, take money out when I wanted, and the rest can grow over time. Stick with your industry super fund in retirement. Visit compareyourretirement.com today.

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So Nick Hockley steps away from Cricket Australia after nearly 13 years of working in Australian cricket, including five as the CEO.

They signed the sport's first billion-dollar TV deal and copped the COVID-19 pandemic. But he reckons it's time to hand over. The Cricket Australia chair, former Premier Mike Baird, said that Hockley has delivered significant growth and stability. So who's next? I reckon they've got someone sitting right in front of them over at the Cricketers Association, and that is former NRL boss Todd Greenberg.

He looms as a pretty strong candidate to replace Nick Hockley and the

Newswire is also reporting that Big Bash boss Alistair Dobson is also in the hunt. So let's see how they go. I would think that Todd Greenberg, with all his experience, would likely be a good selection. 131873. Just on the work-from-home issue, it feels that this really has got people extremely agitated, and I can understand why. Here's Luke, though. Chris, my wife...

Marge says...

I'm sure they would like to work from home one or two days a week. It doesn't seem fair, well, Marg. You can't... It's like asking a police officer to work from home. I just think it's a silly argument. Oh, well, the nurses can't do it. Well, hang on. They signed up to be nurses, not people sitting at their desks using laptops. You know, as a TV reporter, I couldn't work from home. That's just how it is. It's what you sign up for. You make a decision. I think that argument, oh, the teachers can't do it, well, you know.

They're teachers. Of course they've got to be in front of students. Well, to talk more about the men's government's decree that all public servants must work from the office now, work from home's over, Tammy Christophers-Ballas is from Realistic Careers and she joins me on the line. Tammy, g'day.

Hi, Chris. How are you? Do you think this is a bit simplistic, this decision? I do. However, as an ex-government recruiter myself, I know that there's this general consensus that people want to work in government because they think it's easy. So I actually think this is a productivity issue and that's why he's done this blanket thing where he wants everyone back into the office. Do you think it'll work? No, absolutely not. Why is that? Because...

we're living in a time where flexibility is now part of life, right? Especially in the corporate world, okay? Myself and my husband, for example, we fully work from home. He works for someone else. I've got my own business. And we do that because we're bringing up my son and we can, you know, we save on costs like food and the mortgage and all of that. And it works around our lifestyle. You know, companies know this. They know that they can get

the best talent by offering work from home and flexibility. So, you know, I don't think it's going to work in the government. And if they're really hard on about this, I think that they will, the good employees will leave and find better options and then they're going to be in trouble. So as a recruiter, are people asking you, hey, look, what's the flexible working arrangements? Is that one of the first questions that potential employees are asking? Explain me that to them. Yes.

Absolutely. So what it is, people, we got used to it during COVID, but to be fair, work from home was coming up anyway before the COVID era and it was just pushed when COVID happened. So it's about...

working from home, being able to go and, you know, drop the kids off and then come back, have flexible hours. So that doesn't mean necessarily just working nine to five. It could be working, you know, eight to four or doing hours in the morning and then coming back in the afternoon and working till seven o'clock at night. And that's really normal now. And we should support that.

Do you think it's crazy trying to put the genie back in the bottle? I know that some say, well, the government and the employer should just tell the employees where they've got to work and everyone working from home is bludgeoned. Do you think that's not true, is it? No, it's not. Absolutely not. No, there are people that work from home. I was speaking to a FIFO recruiter this morning. All of her staff work from home and they do overtime. They are very productive employees.

It works. It absolutely works. I just think some people have taken the advantage and they've wrecked it for everybody else. Tammy, thank you so much for coming on. I really appreciate it. You're very welcome, Chris. Tammy Christophers-Ballast. She's a recruiter from Realistic Careers. 131873, what do you make of it?

In the newsroom, Josh Bryant. G'day.

Police say they haven't given up on finding answers more than two decades after an 18-year-old woman disappeared on the Mid-North Coast as they make a fresh appeal for information about the suspicious disappearance of Rose Howell, last seen in Ripton in 2003. And the number of customer complaints about telcos is continuing to fall. The data shows there was...

2.7 complaints made to the Ombudsman per 10,000 services in operation between April and June. In sport, with 11 premierships between them, Rugby League supercoaches Wayne Bennett and Jack Gibson have been inducted into the NRL Hall of Fame. They're the first coaches to receive the honour. We'll have more news in sport at four. Good on you, Josh. 131873. Let's go to Mark at Balmain. G'day, Mark. Hi, mate. How are you? I'm good, thanks. What do you make of all this?

Yeah, I'd love to work at home, but I can't. But, look, I'm of the view that if people can work from home, good luck to them. As long as they're doing their job, if they can avoid the trains and the car and the bus and the bus not turning up, good luck to them. And I guess my view of...

of politics these days, be it federal, state or federal, is how many... Who wants all these people to go back to work? What vested interests are in the ears of the Premier's office? And the same with the feds. I mean, half of them are... Good luck to them, but half of them own investment properties. I don't trust them when they vote on housing policy because, you know...

The narrative is they've got a vested interest. Yeah, they're looking after themselves. Who's in the politicians' ears? Yeah, good point, Mark. Good point. That's always a question we've got to ask ourselves. I appreciate your call. Adam's at Shell Harbour. Final call. Hello, Adam.

Hi, Chris. Mate, just a quick one for me. My wife, she works from home, but she has to go into the office one day a week, and then it takes her two and a half hours to get there and then two and a half hours to get home. So for a 40-hour week, she'd be travelling for 25 hours. And did she take that job pre or post the flexible working sort of arrangements? Post. So she took it with that arrangement in place, did she?

Would she bother?

Or would she flick it? I'm not too sure. With the cost of living, we need the money. So I'm not too sure. Good on you, Adam. I appreciate your call, 131873. These are the people that it affects. And I don't think Chris Minns has taken any notice of the people who it affects. Just quickly, James has called in. James has seen something on the M7. Hello, James. Hey, Chris. How are you, mate? Well, thank you. What have you seen?

Did you see it, James?

That's correct. Yeah, I drove past it about 15 minutes ago. All right. So emergency services, you'd hope there. So just repeat again, right-hand lane, just near the Light Horse Interchange, southbound, did you say? That's correct, mate, yeah. Good on you, James. Hey, $200 Visa Active gift card coming your way. Appreciate the tip.

Wonderful. Thanks, guys. Good on you, James. So just repeating, if you're on the M7, be aware, right-hand lane, southbound just as you're heading towards the Light Horse Interchange on the M7. There is a serious accident by the sounds of things. Let's check the traffic.

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Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Consider the fund's PDS and whether the product is right for you. The RBA has left the cash rate on hold today. 4.35% is the official cash rate. It remains on hold and it began ticking up in May 2022. It reached a 12-year high, of course, in November of 2023, November last year, and it's remained there ever since.

Now, the RBA says, look, there are potential upside inflation risks. It's all very, very bumpy and all very uncertain. But for the first time, I think, they've acknowledged that growth, economic growth is weak. So they're

They're almost showing a little bit of leg as to maybe, just maybe, an interest rate cut is starting to become a part of their thinking. Now, I reckon too, as a result of what we saw on the Australian share market yesterday, losses of close to $150 billion were

It looks like the markets have responded okay today. So the ASX right now is up 0.39 of a percent and the All Ords is up 0.36 of a percent. So they're happy that it was a hold, not a hike. And clearly a long way to climb back after that disastrous two-day rout it was. David Bassanese is the chief economist at Beta Shares. He's on the line for us. David, g'day.

G'day, Chris. Fairly expected, the outcome, but nonetheless I thought some of the language in the Reserve Bank's release was interesting. Yeah, you're right. I mean, they left rates on hold. I mean, they still acknowledge that inflation is uncomfortably high. You know, they do want it to come down. They do expect it to come down. They are still being patient in waiting for it to come down and acknowledging, you know, some signs of softness in the economy plus inflation.

you know, recent share market volatility and some concerns about the US economy. So, you know, I think the... What we can probably say is the risks of a rate rise, at least, you know, which was lingering there for a little while, is probably gone, you know, out the window. But, you know, whether they can cut rates this year, I think is still...

You know, it really does. I think obviously depends on a number of factors. But I mean, if share market volatility subsides and maybe we don't get a US recession, it really still comes back down to that inflation outlook, you know, how quickly inflation can fall. Do you think the RBA is surprised and the governor is surprised at just how slow it has been to bring inflation down? Do you think that they would have liked to be further down the road at this point?

They would. I mean, yes, so they've had to revise up their inflation forecast in the past few quarters and they've sort of pushed out the timing as to how quickly inflation will get back into the target band. At the moment, they see it happening late next year. And I think at the moment, provided they think that that's still on track, you know,

you know, they're happy to sort of wait and have patience. But if they think it's going to be, you know, a lot longer than that, then they might feel the need to act. So they have been surprised. I mean, there's been a lot of cost pressures in the services sector still coming through, you know, housing costs, insurance costs. Now, a lot of these things aren't related to the strength of the economy. Well, partly, you know, due to, you know,

increased damages that insurance companies have to pay out and the big ramp up in immigration and things like this. So it is tricky. Those parts can't really come down easily and they really just have to bear down and hope that we see enough reduction in inflation elsewhere. And it was this paragraph that I thought, oh, well, maybe we're on the way to a cut and they're discussing it. And I know we won't find out for a couple of weeks yet, but it says...

Momentum in economic activity has been weak as evidenced by slow growth in GDP, a rise in the unemployment rate and reports that businesses are under pressure. And there is a risk that household consumption picks up more slowly than expected, resulting in continued subdued output growth and a noticeable deterioration in the labour market, i.e. people haven't got enough money to spend. And ultimately, if we want economic growth, we need them spending, right?

Yeah, I mean, it does come back to that so-called narrow path and that they want inflation to come down. Ideally, they don't want to tip the economy into recession. They do recognise that the economy is slowing and it's probably quite sensitive to further interest rate increases here. So I think we're at that sort of trigger point that maybe one or even two more rate rises could happen.

could tip us over the edge. And so they're very wary about that. David Bassanese, just briefly before I let you go, you're pretty happy to put a red pen through a potential interest rate hike in 2024, or it's just a matter of when we'll get a cut in your view?

Yeah, look, I have been thinking we could get a cut, you know, around Christmas time. But, you know, they're still, you know, I think, you know, they're still worried about inflation here. And, look, I think at worst a rate cut is likely by early next year, but it's becoming a bit more marginal whether or not they will cut as quickly as year end, even though the US is likely to cut interest rates. We just have a...

a stickier inflation problem at the moment. David Bassanese, appreciate your time. Thanks so much. No worries, Chris. Chief Economist at Beta Shares, David Bassanese, 131873. So that's some good news if you're listening to The Economist's, the RBA keeping the cash rate on hold. So if you're a mortgage holder, if you have a business loan, good news.

And it's very unlikely that the unencumbered spreadsheet merchants who have been saying we need more interest rate hikes to tame inflation, well, looks like they're wrong. 16 to 4. I didn't realise I could stick with my industry super fund when I retired. Thankfully, I discovered if I stayed, I could set up a regular income, take money out when I wanted, and the rest can grow over time. Stick with your industry super fund in retirement.

It's 12 minutes to 4, 131873. Well, the New South Wales Government, speaking of Chris Minns, they're being lobbied to lift the cap on major festivals.

at one of Sydney's historic park lands. This is only six months after they axed the concert limits at Allianz Stadium, which they should have done. Mind you, they should have done it. Now, this story's in the Sydney Morning Herald, but they want a 50% increase, the Australian Festivals Association, to the number of events at Centennial Park. And they want a 50% increase to those number of events for crowds of more than 20,000 people.

Now, I know some of the well-heeled neighbours don't like it and you see trampled grass and lots of garbage and all the rest of it. So they haven't used it very often, Centennial Park, as a festival venue, at least not for many, many, many years. And outdoor festivals have been limited to both the Domain and Olympic Park, however...

They want to increase the cap from eight to a maximum of 12 potential festivals of 20,000 or more people a year at Centennial Park. What do you make of this one? 131873. All that's well and good. All that's well and good. I know Callan Park. I don't live too far away from Callan Park. They used to have Laneway Festival there. It's a fantastic place where you could have a really good cultural and music festival.

event. Yet, for whatever reason, the finances don't work and the locals don't like it. I think the finances of the festival organisers need to be worked out really before lifting any caps at this point. 131873. Well, it's not just me who thinks that the hype around the Matildas overshadowed their ability as a team.

Now, I said last week, I thought it was after their worst Olympics performance in 24 years, the Matildas. And I said that, well, we, Australia, set them up to fail. And I thought the Matildas may have bought their own BS. Now, the truth is, as much as we love them, the Matildas are just a slightly above average women's soccer team. And they probably overachieved by coming fourth at a home World Cup.

So it was interesting that former Matildas coach Tom Somani, he agrees with me. So Tom Somani, he told the Telegraph that, quote, I don't want to get into the players, but just go out and do your job. This was after some players anonymously were telling newspapers that Tony Gustafson was no good and his tactics were all over the place. It was all chaotic. And Tom Somani has just said, look,

It's disappointed, this is a quote, it's disappointed that they didn't get through the group. Unfortunately, the hype around the Matildas sometimes overshadows the reality of what the team can achieve. Now, he's no goose, this Samani. He was the longest serving coach of the Matildas and led the team to the Asian Cup 14 years ago. Now, all of this story was written in the Telegraph and the News Corp papers.

But the Asian Cup 14 years ago was the last time the Matildas won a major tournament. Last time. Wouldn't know it. Again, bronze statues and murals on the side of a core stadium at Olympic Park. And the former coach of the Matildas says, quote, the hype around the team sometimes overshadows the reality of what the team can achieve. Again, we've just got to keep things in perspective, right? The Matildas are the most popular sporting team in Australia. That's cool.

But unfortunately, they are a long way off being world beaters. So we just need to dial down the expectation on them, support them, cheer for them until you can't cheer any louder anymore. Your horse in the voice. But bronze statues and murals on the side of a stadium forever and a day, I think that's well and truly overreaching.

A Paris 2024 Olympic Games update. Thanks to Harvey Norman, proud to be Australia's official retail partner. Powered by LG, partner of Nine's Olympic broadcast. G'day everyone, Adam Hawes here with an update from the Paris Games.

A setback for the Sharks. Australia's giant killing men's water polo team has lost its final pool game to Japan. They went down 14-13. Captain Blake Edwards though, not overly concerned. There's still a really positive vibe in this group and a strong belief. So yeah, that's not going to knock us down too much. Australia will play the US early Thursday morning. Our women's team, the Stingers, play a quarterfinal against Greece early tomorrow morning. Plenty of other action coming our way on day 11 in Paris.

The Boomers play Serbia in a men's basketball quarterfinal. Tom Green and Jean Van Westerhuizen begin their title defence tonight in the men's canoe sprint. Divers Melissa Wu and Ellie Cole have qualified for the women's 10m platform final. Australia's men's sprint team is on track for a medal at the Velodrome. And the in-form runner Jessica Hull begins her campaign in the women's 1500m. The medal tally reads the USA on top with 21 gold, followed by China, France and then Australia with 13 golds. I'm Adam Hawes, that is the latest from the Olympic Games.

That Metal Telly update was thanks to Toyota, Australian Olympic and Paralympic team partner. Oh, what a feeling.

Good on you, Horsey. I just noticed Rowan Dean from Sky News. He's just posted something very, very funny on social media. It's Kamala Harris and Donald Trump talking about what it means to be woke. You know, we have to stay woke. Like, everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about if you're the wokest or woker, but just stay more woke than less woke.

You know what woke means? It means you're a loser. Everything woke, everything woke, it's true. Everything woke turns to s***, okay? It's true. Look at what's happening. Donald J. Trump, just a shame he won't debate Kamala Harris. I'd like to hear a few of those zingers. It's five to four.

Four o'clock news with Josh Bryant is coming up very shortly. If you missed this, here's some great news for Wayne Bennett and Jack Gibson. Wayne Bennett and Jack Gibson will be the first coaches to be inducted into the NRL Hall of Fame.

And they'll be joining administrators Ken Arthurson and John Quayle, as well as our iconic broadcasters Frank Hyde and, of course, David Thirsty Morrow, all joining the NRL Hall of Fame. So Bennett and Gibson were announced today. Here's Bennett, at least, the most prolific coach of all time. Started with Canberra back in 1987.

Coach to Broncos, coach to Dragons, coach to Knights, coach to Rabbitohs, coach to Dolphins. Now heading back to the Bunnies and, of course, Jack Gibson, three premierships in a row with the Eels, wasn't it? Two well-deserving men to be in the NRL Hall of Fame. 131873. Now back to Drive with Chris O'Keefe on Sydney's 2GB. It's seven minutes past four. Thank you for your company on this Tuesday afternoon. 131873.

He is my open line number. You can text me 0460 873 873. Or if you prefer, send me an email drive at 2gb.com. Um, if you had a strange package left in your mailbox, um,

And it's purporting to be from New South Wales Health. If you have, it's likely been in the southwest of Sydney. 131873. Give us a call on that one. Have you seen the new Sydney smokestack? Yeah, the motorway smokestack. It looks like a Chicken McNugget. And it's not too far away from the Sydney Harbour Bridge. So you've got one of Australia's great landmarks next to a Chicken McNugget. I'll explain in a sec.

Now, do you know what companies out there have your personal details? Because at this point, it's almost safe to assume that every company you've ever bought something from or even looked at is hoarding your data somehow. Now, have a listen to this one, because Simon got in contact with us and we did a little bit of investigating into it. And Simon and his wife Bronwyn were on a trip to the United States, and he was using his ANZ debit card to pay for a few things.

In the US, right? So an Australian ANZ debit card. He was paying for things in the United States. Now, every time that Simon seemed to tap away, he got a receipt. But the receipt was sent as a text message to his mobile phone, which means that somehow the vendor, for example, an ice cream shop in Washington, D.C., has got a hold of his phone number just through the transaction with his card. How'd they do this? How'd they do this?

Now, where is the data coming from? Because at first, Simon was worried that ANZ was sharing his data. But it turns out it comes down to the company that owns the FPOS machines themselves, the things you actually tap and pay on. Now, some of those companies will hold onto your phone number and link it to your card. So example, you might go to JB Hi-Fi here in Australia.

You can buy a new television and they say, hey, do you want a receipt texted to you? You say yes, please, and you hand over your mobile phone number. And then when you're overseas, you might be buying a hot dog underneath the Statue of Liberty. And if that store has the same EFTPOS machine and you tap, the company worldwide has got a hold of your mobile phone number and you will get a receipt for that hot dog.

Strange, right? So your phone number is connected to your card via the EFTPOS machine itself. Now, this seems really unnecessary, and I would have thought if you are asking for a receipt at JB Hi-Fi, then...

You should have the opportunity to say, hey, listen, I don't want you to hoard my mobile phone number so everyone in Sundry can contact me whenever I tap and go. Well, Trevor Long, he's our tech expert from EFTM.com and he's on the line. Trevor, g'day. G'day, mate. So what is the EFTPOS machine itself? What is the company?

So I think the one that's most prominent in this space is probably Square. They were a startup many years ago and now they're the choice of many small businesses. And the ones you mentioned are very clear. An ice cream shop, a small vendor at a market stall. In fact, a lot of just coffee shops and things, especially in the States, use Square. And it might not look like a simple terminal. It might look like a full-blown computerized terminal. They have really, really big point-of-sale systems for these businesses.

And the concept here is convenience and simplicity. So I wish JB Hi-Fi had this system. I wish Bunnings. You know, the amount of times I go to Bunnings and they go, do you want an SMS receipt? Yes. I'm going to type my number again? Come on. They should know me because I have tapped with the same card. So for me, and I may be, you know, the devil's advocate in this argument, but for me, it's about convenience. I don't want to have to answer my data every time. I'm quite happy if you've got it already to just send me my receipt. Sure.

So square, mostly, so if I go to the markets on a weekend and I'm going to the local fruit grocer or whatever it is, or I'm buying fresh juice, square are those little tiny sort of white squares that you tap and go on, are they?

That's right. They started out as being a little tiny one that actually plugged into the phone. Then they got the ones that are smaller than a CD, but they can sit on a vendor's table. But also there are little ones that look like the Commonwealth Bank ones that they can hand over to you with a touchscreen on them. They've got a huge range of them now. They're quite a big... My local sports club had a canteen with a square because it's the quickest and easiest way to take cashless payments. Bunning sausages, they do it.

They would definitely do it as well. And look, the thing is, it's about whether or not we really consented to this sharing of data. And I think the answer would be no. Like if I was at a coffee shop once and I was buying coffees for a work event and I put in my SMS or my email address because I needed the receipt, did I press a button that said, oh, by the way, whenever I use this card, do the same thing? Probably not.

Anywhere in the world. Yeah, anywhere that's using that platform. Now, we should be very clear, this kind of data gathering is happening everywhere. The best example I have is I reckon Woolworths where if you've got an everyday rewards card, you're linking every payment you make back to yourself so that when they send you an email that says, here's this week's specials, your specials look very different to mine.

You know, I'm not getting specials for protein bars, Chris. I'm getting specials for Cadbury chocolate. People don't quite understand that Woolworths is one of the biggest data companies in Australia.

Exactly. And they do that because they can fine-tune their deals, their offers, their profit margins. It's all about making more money. There is definitely a convenience factor here, and I'm a big fan of that, but the consent part of it is critical. We really need to be told when we're handing it over for perpetuity as opposed to for this one transaction. In Simon's case, right, so he is obviously just for one transaction.

The theory is he's handed over his mobile phone number to get a receipt here in Australia. He's buying a hot dog in New York City and gets a receipt for the hot dog now. Can the hot dog vendor see his mobile phone number? Can they access it?

I'd have to log into a back end of Square to check, but my gut feeling is no. My gut feeling is it's more of a secure transaction. So essentially Square being, think of Square as Visa or MasterCard, as weird as that sounds. They're the kind of back end of it all. So Visa or MasterCard don't hand over the details back to shops that they have. They just simply process a transaction. So my gut feeling is no. The vendor, the shop, is not able to then market you directly.

And is there any government regulation around this? Do we know where companies have to say, hey, listen, we're going to keep this on file for every single vendor in the world that uses this platform? Or is it just a free for all?

Well, certainly in Australia, we have privacy and data retention laws. I would guess that this falls under that. But the problem is those laws are very basic and they're not made to protect us from this kind of unwary data gathering and usage. So, no, I don't think governments are ahead of this game. I think they're well behind it probably.

Trevor Long, as always, I appreciate your time. Thank you very much. That's Trevor Long from EFTM.com. What do you make of this? 131873. It just doesn't sit well with me. You know, I'll give you my mobile number if and when I want to give you my mobile number. It's now not just, oh yeah, well, it's on the platform. We can use it anywhere in the world. Forget that. Have you experienced this yourself? Give us a call. 131873.

Drive on 2GB. Have your say. 131 873. Well, the Daily Telegraph is reporting that there are a whole bunch of suspicious packages purporting to contain a free health treatment from New South Wales Health. And those packages have been randomly left in mailboxes across southwest Sydney.

So there are small fabric bags with a note attached to it. And this hit people's letterboxes yesterday. Again, if this has been you, give us a call 131873. Because people have caught this guy who was putting it in people's letterboxes on their home CCTV cameras. Unknown guy. Anyway, the message on the typed label says,

It describes the contents of the fabric bag as a, quote, handcrafted gift and a personal remedial therapy for you and your family that is a New South Wales health services initiative. They've got a landline telephone number, mobile, email address also included, and they're legitimate contacts for New South Wales health. But at the bottom of the note, it reads, quote, compliments of our father.

Now, it's weird because on CCTV, the guy that's putting these in people's letterboxes, he was wearing gloves and he was just walking around with one of those sort of trolleys you move large objects with, like cupboards or drawers or whatever, and he was just putting all these small fabric bags with the note into people's letterboxes. So a neighbour's opened the fabric bag and inside it is a kumquat, a small kumquat.

Very, very strange. Whether or not everybody got a kumquat, I don't know. But New South Wales Health has said that, quote, it's aware that cards and packages have been placed in letterboxes in some homes in Sydney, falsely claiming to be a gift and remedial therapy from New South Wales Health. Can't believe they had to say this. New South Wales Health will never leave gifts in your letterbox.

We've reported the matter to the police. We strongly advise anyone who's received such a package to dispose of it without opening it. And it's harmless, sure, but it's very, very weird. There are some extremely strange people out there putting kumquats in people's letterboxes. If that was you, give us a call, 131873.

It's coming up to 22 past four. Now, if you live on the North Shore or you drive over the Sydney Harbour Bridge semi-regularly, you know they're doing all that work for the Warringah Freeway expansion as the Western Harbour Tunnel is being constructed. So the Western Harbour Tunnel goes from the Roselle Interchange...

straight underneath the Bowmane Peninsula, underneath Sydney Harbour, and will pop up right at Camaray, the Western Harbour Tunnel. So it will be a second way or a third way, really, to cross Sydney Harbour east of the Gladesville Bridge, I suppose. But the smokestack, because, of course, if you're in a tunnel, a road tunnel, there are emissions from the exhaust.

and the exhaust fumes have to get out somewhere. So there's a proposal for a 30-metre-high golden smokestack. Yeah, golden smokestack. And it will be at Camaray, and I'm not joking, it looks like a chicken nugget. If it doesn't look like a chicken nugget, it probably looks like Trump Tower in New York.

So the New South Wales government has put out this draft place design and landscape plan right next to North Sydney Oval there on the Warringah Freeway. And it'll be this giant structure. And they say it'll be a welcoming element to the tunnel when seen from the main entrance ramp. It looks terrible. And there's people who call it a chicken nugget, Bob. It does look like a chicken nugget.

And, you know, these massive smokestacks, 30 metres high, it looks terrible and hopefully they can go back to the drawing board and make it somewhat classy. I know the smokestacks at the Roselle Interchange, well, they're not everybody's cup of tea, but at least they tried, right? 131873. Now, just on, sticking to North Sydney, but in a very different way,

The North Sydney Bears coach, Pat Wisner, is his name. This story in the Sydney Morning Herald, he's been served with a breach notice for allegedly attempting to bet on the outcome of matches. So Pat Wisner will front the NSW Rugby League Code of Conduct hearing tomorrow night after he's alleged to have put on a multi-bet which included legs on NRLW.

as well as New South Wales Cup rugby league games. So he's alleged to have put bets on New South Wales Cup games, which they can't do, which they can't do if you are, of course, a coach in the New South Wales Cup. So it's alleged that he attempted to place a bet on the outcome of the South Sydney-Candra game and the Roosters-Blacktown New South Wales Cup games.

And the attempted wager, Tabcorp, flagged it, intercepted it and rejected it. And he's been issued with a code of conduct breach, Pat Wisner. And that hearing will take place tomorrow evening. He's already got a lawyer, Paul McGurr, and he said he will be pleading not guilty, Mr Wisner. And they will be calling evidence to establish that he is not guilty of the offence. So he does face the prospect of deregistration.

And Bob Abood, our Judiciary Chairman for the NSW Rugby League, former magistrate, will preside over the matter. Now, it is, of course, a North Sydney Bears a feeder club to the Melbourne Storm, so it'll be interesting to see how that all plays out. Pat Wisner, of course, innocent until proven guilty. Now, just on this weird...

People getting weird packages in their letterboxes. So if you live in the southwest of Sydney, there's a guy putting hundreds of kumquats in people's letterboxes in small fabric bags, purporting to be a gift from New South Wales Health. Well, Angela's called in from Bellevue Hill. Angela's got another weird box story. Hello, Angela. Oh, hello, Chris. What's happened? Tell me the story.

Well, it was very strange the other day, not even in the letterbox, but on top of my letterbox was a plastic package. It looked like I'd bought something online. It got delivered to me in this really nice navy blue box, navy blue bag. But it was some sort of, like when I opened it, life-saving device, which was probably no bigger than a 10-cent piece. It looked like a compass. It could have been, I don't know, something like measure your heart rate or something.

And it's like, oh, you know, make sure you keep this. And swear to God, it could have been a listening device. I don't know. I went out and put it straight in my big counsel bin because it was very strange. Unmarked, no, like, letter inside anything. It was just very odd. So when you're, you know, you've mentioned the other thing, I thought, oh, hang on a second, are they talking about what we got given? Because it was very weird and I took it straight out of that house.

It's very strange, right? And I know that there's people who try to do scams like this, Angela. And I noticed that an internet security firm called NordVPN says the arrival of dodgy packages is a strong indication of personal data exposure. And it says this, if you receive an unexpected package that is not a gift, it probably means your personal information like your name and home address has been compromised.

and that scammer bought your data on an illegal marketplace. And by sending that thing to you, they're trying to use it to perform more identity theft. So maybe, I don't know who you'd contact, but...

Yeah, that's all very, very strange, Angela. It was not personalised, which was the unusual part, which is why I thought it was even dodgier because it was just left there like a gift. But it did not seem like something that was particularly needed to stay in my house that I was going to need. Well, Angela, it's good you chucked it in the bin. Thank you for your call. I appreciate it. Neil's at Bowerall. When in doubt, throw it in the bin. G'day, Neil. G'day, mate. How are you? Yeah, good, thank you. You want to talk about the data breaches? Well,

Well, I'm turning out to be a bit of a retro man, and bizarrely, I actually use technology in my job, but I've closed all those reward cards and all those kinds of things. And I'm actually in New Zealand at the moment. I do a bit of business over here. And interestingly, when you go to tap your card, they tell you not to. They tell you to insert it and put your number in because then there's no charge.

And also Woolworths don't have any cameras when you come out in the South Checkout. So there's a couple of really blaring differences there. I don't know why. Do you think that's a legal thing in New Zealand? Privacy thing? Maybe, I don't know. I mean, not everything's perfect in New Zealand, but yeah. I mean, I did call before on another note was about the stamp duty, that there's no stamp duty on property here. It's kind of a lot of...

differences in things that they do between the two places. But Woolies, without the cameras at the self-service checkout, I'm assuming there'd be stuff getting pinched left, right and centre, wouldn't there? Well, they've actually got people packing your bag too. So they're not always, but... And you can go at nine o'clock and there is a person standing at the register. Good on you, Neil. I appreciate your call. And I think many people would be in Neil's boat too. When you've got the everyday rewards cards, you've got the...

What's the fly-bys, cards? You know, how many do you need? And it's at this point now where unless you feel like you're really getting some value out of it, you are effectively producing your own data and letting them track your own movements and your own purchasing habits and

for them to make money off you. That's it. And they might throw a couple of shekels your way in between as a thank you. That's all it is. And people have rightly said, you know what, my private details are my private details and I won't be bought off. Others, they're like, well, you know what, all my personal information is out there anyway. I may as well save a quid at the checkout as I'm doing it. I can see both arguments.

Josh Bryant in the newsroom. G'day. Hello, Chris. The Reserve Bank says it's worried about volatility on global markets and the high inflation rate as it left interest rates on hold. Police say a fire in Sydney's west, which has left a 71-year-old man in a critical condition, is being treated as suspicious.

Universities claim 14,000 jobs could be lost if the federal government pushes ahead with its international student caps for next year. And Australia's favourite cat and dog breeds have been revealed. Domestic short hair winning for cats, cavoodles for dogs. In Sport West, Tigers centre Adam Dewey returns from injury to face the Knights on Sunday. He's replacing Justin Olam who's accepted a four-match suspension for a high tackle. We'll have more news in sport at five.

Thanks, Josh. 131873. Coming up, we'll speak to Jacaranda Financial Planning. If you've got any questions about tax, income, superannuation, pensions, whatever it is, give us a call. 131873. The guys from Jacaranda, they'll solve them for you.

It's 25 to 5 and every week, my mate and colleague John Stanley talks finance with our great friends at Jacaranda Financial Planning. John's still on break this week with the Olympics on, so we'll be speaking with Joel Hardy today. Again, any questions for Jacaranda Financial Planning? And Joel, please give me a call now, 131873. There's no such thing as a stupid question. I ask plenty of them, 131873. We are, of course, only providing general advice and information only. And please...

Personal advice to ensure your personal objectives. That's the best way to get your financial situation and your needs considered. Joel, welcome back. Thanks, Chris. How are you? Let's start with some news. The RBA holds today. Not unsurprising. Not unsurprising, I don't think. And they're probably waiting to see what markets do over the course of the week and into next week. But we saw really heavy losses, Chris, yesterday on the ASX. And that followed US job data coming out.

a bit poorer than they were expecting. And I think that there is thoughts and murmurs at the moment that maybe a recession is on the cards over there. So the RBA is going to be pretty cautious. I think that they're going to just wait and see, certainly for the next round of rates as well, what happens and what happens with the economic growth here and abroad. Given yesterday's rout, or the last two days, really, Friday and Monday, and the holds in interest rates today, people's superannuation accounts, you can understand that

A couple of days is just a couple of days, but it still hurts. Look, it does hurt. I mean, it's also an opportunity if you're contributing to super, you can buy in at a lower price. And I think that's what a lot of people don't realize is that if there is a fall in markets, you've actually got an opportunity then to put money in at a lower price point, and that should see your investment exceed over time. But

Falls in the markets are pretty common. In fact, the S&P 500, which is the benchmark index in the US, seven out of 10 years, there's greater than a 10% fall in that index. And that's performed really well over the last 10 or so years. So I think it is a loss on paper, Chris, until it's a real loss when you cash the money out. But it's also an opportunity to get in and to purchase and pick up more assets in any investment, not just super. Yeah.

For those nearing retirement and they're looking at the markets, they're looking at the uncertainty, they're looking at geopolitical issues, conflict in the Middle East, conflict in Europe.

What is a comfortable retirement in Australia now? When do they pull the trigger? Yeah, look, typically people pull the trigger at 65. And that seems to be the number at which most people say, you know what, I'm going to hang up the boots now and finish up. 65 is that number. Some people will go to 67, particularly if there's a chance of getting an age pension and they might not have a great deal of assets that they can rely on.

In terms of what's comfortable, $72,500 a year for a couple net is considered a comfortable income and about $51,500 a year if you're single. And that, of course, assumes you own your own home. So that's from an income perspective. That translates, Chris, roughly into $690,000 for a couple in terms of capital to fund that income.

And if you're single, about $595,000. And again, some Centrelink age pension in there. Sure. So $690,000 with a little bit of age pension. Yeah. So a great example. Plus your own home. Plus your own home, yeah. So a great example might be you've got $690,000 in cash and super combined as a couple. You own your own home. The asset limit for a homeowner is about $1,003,000. So there's still a bit of room there to actually achieve some age pension because you're under that cap.

And that would roughly mean $500 each per fortnight from Centrelink for a couple. And then you could top it up with super of about $46,000 a year. So that meets your $72,000 a year that you need. And a lot of people come to us and say, oh, Joel, I need a million dollars to retire on as a couple. And I've heard that's the number. Often it's not. Often it's a much lower figure than that, Joel. Chris has called in. G'day, Chris. G'day, James. How are you? Good, thank you. Chris, what's your question for Joel?

Yeah, Joel, I've inherited... Well, I've purchased a property from an estate and I'm looking at turning around and selling that now. I'm just wondering what the capital gains would be on...

on the sale of that property, if it's the valuation at the time of purchase or valuation at the time of sale. It's only been a recent purchase for the last 12 months. Yeah, sure. And Chris, with the inheritance, was it the family home? Was it a primary place of residence for the person deceased or was it an investment? No. No, it was an investment property out of that estate. Yeah, okay. So really the cost base is going to start when the individual would have first purchased it.

And if you then carry it on, then you've got to absorb that cost base as well, and you will obviously sell it and pay any tax that happens at the time. So definitely go and see an accountant, get some advice, because there could be a little bit of capital gains tax depending on how much you've purchased it for, how much you've inherited it for. Yeah, no problem. All right, good to know. Thanks so much, guys. Good on you, Chris. Thank you for that. Lisa's at Newcastle. Hello, Lisa. What's your question for Joel? Thanks.

Hi, Chris. Hi, Joel. I'm just wondering, I'm a self-funded retiree. I'm 66. With the financial situation happening overseas that I've heard a little bit about today, is that expected to have any impact on superannuation in Australia?

Well, it certainly will, Lisa, if markets continue to be spooked and you've got shares inside your super fund because those shares will be affected, whether they're international shares and domestic shares. Most people's funds have anywhere from 60% to 70% in some sort of growth asset, so that might be shares. And you will see the funds start to reflect that if markets fall.

Now, I think it's important not to panic because it's easy to panic when short-term volatility hits markets. But if you do actually allow yourself to ride it out, often markets rebound and we see them higher over the longer term anyway. And shares typically are the best performing assets. So if you don't need to sell down, try not to panic. Try to hold on and wait it out because markets will recover.

It's easier to wait it out, though, when you're 40. It's harder to wait it out when you're 60. It is, yes. Correct, yeah, you're right. That's why it's always really good to have a good cash buffer. So whether that's in your super fund, somewhere between 5%, 10%, 15% in cash, or cash in your own name that you can potentially live off when markets are a bit volatile, you don't need to sell down those assets in super and you can ride it out, that is a good strategy to actually have some cash set aside in either case.

So is it advisable to pull a little bit out of your super and put it into a bank account? Well, you can actually hold cash inside the super fund. And most people who have a pension structure set up in their fund will have a bit of cash because cash is often what's used to fund the actual pension payment. So just have a look at your statement, have a look how much cash is in there, log into your account and just make sure that you've got enough to provide a buffer of anywhere from six to 12 months. That's often the right amount.

There you go, Lisa. That's some good advice. Thank you for your call. Just here's one on the text line, Joel Mary. G'day, Joel. I've been getting different answers to this question. Please settle this once and for all. Can I contribute to my accumulated account of my super fund even when I reached transfer balance cap in 2017? I'm 73 and retired.

It really depends on how much is in the fund now. So the transfer balance cap in 2017 was $1.6 million. So if you've still got a balance, in Mary's case, if she's still got a balance of above $1.6 million, the only contributions, Chris, can come from employment, so that's super guarantee, and salary sacrifice or pre-tax contributions. You can't make large lump sums such as non-concessional contributions.

If Mary downsizes a home, there is some good news. Lived in the home for a period of 10 years, you've owned it for 10 years and it's your primary place of residence. $300,000 potentially can go into the fund. So certain contributions in Mary's case can be made, but others can't.

There you go, Mary. Hopefully that's put it to bed. Clearly, you've just got to go check that out with your own accountant too and your own circumstances, but I think Joel's answered that pretty succinctly. Now, Joel, you've got some information evenings the guys at Jacaranda do. Yeah, we do. Yeah, these are free, Chris. So the first one is in Sydney. It's on Tuesday the 27th of August, 6pm start at the Radisson Blue Hotel in Pitt Street. As I said, it is free and it's about an hour of people's time. We talk about super, we talk about tax investments, all the stuff going on in markets and

To book for that, it's Jack Aranda FP, so f for financial, p for planning.com.au or 1-800-40-2610. And then Brisbane is coming up. That's Thursday the 3rd of October, so in a couple of months' time, 6pm start at our office, 345 Queen Street in the city. And again, same website,

jacarandafp.com.au. Yet to meet someone who went to this and didn't find it extremely valuable. So well done. Thank you for that, Joel. That's Joel Hardy from Jacaranda Financial Planning. Again, www.jacarandafp.com.au. If you prefer the old-fashioned way, just pick the phone up. 1-800-402610. It's 13 minutes to five. 131 is 131873, I should say, is that open line number. Now,

What about this in South Africa? And his name is Herman Kruger. He's a family physician from South Africa. This story has been reported in the ABC. And it's the doctor, Dr Kruger, is the doctor that Inverell has been waiting for. Inverell in country New South Wales. So for more than four years, Inverell Shire Council has negotiated with Dr Kruger's recruiting agent as he considered roles right around Australia.

And the council had to offer Dr Herman Kruger from South Africa a $30,000 financial incentive to work in Inverell while Hunter New England Health threw in an extra 30 grand. And Dr Kruger said, well, I wasn't going to move from South Africa without council topping up my wage. And he said he was surprised to hear about doctors leaving regional areas in Australia. It's extraordinary, isn't it?

So you've got Inverell Shire Council throwing in $30,000 to top up their local GP's wage and the Hunter New England Health Service throwing in $30,000 as well. And supposedly this is not an isolated issue. So for the past five years, Carathool Shire Council has been paying up to $300,000 to keep a doctor in Hilston, which is in the New South Wales Riverina.

300 grand the council has been paying to ensure the town of hillston has a gp now the general manager rick warren told the abc that over the past six months they'd negotiated that down to 170 000 but the problem was if they don't pay they don't have a gp and that's not something that is sustainable for these little country towns but it's big dollars isn't it

And it just goes to show how dire the whole situation is. And I would have thought that that is the responsibility of New South Wales Health or the Commonwealth Health Department to be spending that money, not the local councils. It should be, you know,

throwing in those dollars rather than local councils whose ratepayer money is, of course, finite. 131873. Just quickly on the Olympics. I noted a swimming star. Her name's Luana Alonso. She's Ecuadorian. Sorry, Paraguayan she is. And supposedly she was booted out of the Olympics for sneaking out to visit Disneyland. So it came to an end her participation at the Paris 2024 Games, the Paraguayan,

because she failed to progress past the women's 100 metre butterfly heats. But she said she wasn't permitted to stay in the athletes' village until the end of the Games. The Paraguayans are OK with that. And the Olympic Committee boss from that country said that her presence is creating an, quote, inappropriate atmosphere with Team Paraguay. We thank her for proceeding as instructed.

And Alonzo has come back and said, I just wanted to clarify. I was never kicked out or expelled from anywhere. I don't want to make a statement, but I'm not going to let lies affect me either. So she wasn't off to Disneyland. An inappropriate atmosphere, whatever that means. I know she's got like 50,000 followers.

She's got 50,000 followers on Instagram. She posts a lot of photographs of herself in a bikini. Not that that's anything wrong with that, but that was the suggestion. And clearly the Paraguayan swimming star Luana Alonso is miffed about the whole thing.

A Paris 2024 Olympic Games update. Thanks to Harvey Norman, proud to be Australia's official retail partner. Powered by LG, partner of Nine's Olympic broadcast. Hi everyone, Adam Hawes here with an Olympics update.

Day 11 of competition begins next hour with the first Aussies on display in the heats of the men's kayak four. A highlight tonight will be the Boomers taking on Serbia, led by NBA superstar Nikoli Jokic in a knockout quarterfinal. Basketball legend Andrew Gaze telling the Olympics Today podcast the Boomers need to be patient in attack. We can create a lot more...

better scoring options I think if we have a little bit more patience and a bit better judgement. Matt Wern will sail for back-to-back golds in tonight's men's dinghy final. Five-time Olympic diver Melissa Wu will chase her first ever gold medal in the final of the women's 10m platform. Nina Kennedy is qualified for the women's pole vault final.

Matt Denny, the men's discus throw final. To the medal tally and Noemi Fox's gold in the women's kayak cross has lifted Australia to 13 gold. The USA leads the way with 21 and 79 medals overall. I'm Adam Hawes, that's the latest from Paris. That Paris 2024 medal tally was thanks to NRMA Insurance, a help company. Good on you, Hawesy. The Olympics, jeez, they're such good entertainment. 1-3-1-8-7-3. Well, what about this?

Do you remember the band Creed? Yeah, it was sort of a Christian light rock band of the 1990s, Creed. Well, there's a cruise, and there are thousands of fellow lunatic fans who love Creed, who've all got on this cruise so they can enjoy the Creed music. The problem is, Creed has been panned as a band. What do you think of this? 131873, they've been called...

The worst rock band of the 1990s. Do you agree with that? I reckon that's a bit harsh. So these people have organised a boat cruise, thousands of them, to jump on the cruise and just play Creed for a week straight as they're sailing around the Mediterranean or wherever they are in pushback against Creed being called the worst band of the 90s. What do you reckon? They're not that bad. What's wrong with that?

People used to say even Jesus hates Creed. I reckon that's way too harsh. Way, way too harsh. I used to quite enjoy their music. Six to five. So the Joint Counterterrorism Team has arrested and charged a 14-year-old boy after allegedly stabbing a 22-year-old man at an educational facility on the 2nd of July at Parramatta Road at Camperdown. And it's also alleged he set fire to a couple of bins in the inner west of

He's been heard at Children's Court today. He's been formally refused bail. 131873. We don't know much more than that. Just on Creed, Brad says, Chris, I saw Creed live in Sydney. Still one of the best concerts I've been to and I've done Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, Coldplay. Well, Brad, I thought they were all right. They're not the worst rock band of the 90s, like some say.

dan from camden g'day chris i wouldn't have creed in my top five i wouldn't have them in my bottom five either that ridiculous band alien art ant farm alien ant farm should be up there with the worst now back to drive with chris o'keefe on sydney's 2gb it's seven minutes past five thank you for

...company on this Tuesday afternoon, 131873. Of course, our open line number, text line 0460 873 873 or email me drive at 2gb.com. Now, the former Premier Dominic Perrottet has given his final speech to Parliament today and he had some interesting things to say about...

about COVID vaccines. I'll bring them to you shortly. And as well as this, if you've missed what's happening in Bangladesh, it is just all kinds of terrible. I'll update you next. So Dominic Perrottet has declared in his valedictory speech, of course, he is quitting to head up Rio Tinto's business over in Washington, D.C. So he's leaving Parliament. And his final speech to the Parliament

He said that imposing vaccine mandates was wrong. And he said it was a punitive COVID era measure, which forced frontline workers like police, firefighters and health care staff out of a job. And it was a mistake to do it.

He also said that ministers should not be passengers of the public service. That should be something that many of the Minns government ministers take heed of because not just in this Labor government, but prior to that, there were plenty passengers of the public service. And I'm afraid to say there are too many of them in the current New South Wales government. But Perrottet made that statement.

And he described himself too as the political love child of John Howard and Paul Keating. And Paul Keating was there, mind you. He was in the public gallery to hear Dominic Perrottet's farewell to Parliament after 13 years. And he said that the coalition government reshaped our city, reshaped our state and has laid the foundation for a promising future. And over 12 years, the government took a Bradfield-like attitude to governing. That is, build, build, build.

And he said that the real opposition in government is not the opposition, it's the status quo. And he said that Prime Minister Howard was a constant source of wisdom. And he also said, Dom, I had to teach my bastards to care about money and you need to teach your bastards to care about people. That's a good one.

That's very John Howard. But when it comes to the vaccine mandates, it's interesting because health officials and governments, they might have been acting in good faith. But you know what? It should have been questioned. And Dominic Perrottet himself said as treasurer and premier, they shouldn't have gone down that path. Now, while we didn't get everything right, I believe we got more right than wrong.

And without dwelling on every decision we got wrong, I believe it's important to point out one mistake which was made by governments here and around the world. And that was a strict enforcement of vaccine mandates. Health officials and governments were acting with the right intentions to stop the spread. But if the impact of vaccines on transmission was limited at best, as is now mostly accepted, the law should have left more room for respect of freedom.

Vaccines saved lives, but ultimately mandates were wrong. People's personal choices shouldn't have cost them their jobs. When I became Premier, we removed them, or the ones we actually could, but this should have happened faster. And if a pandemic comes again, we need to get a better balance, encouraging people to take action whilst at the same time protecting people's fundamental liberty.

He's right there, Dominic Perrottet, and I reckon his personal view probably goes even a little further than that. But that's what he can say in public. And you know what? Vaccine mandates were wrong. I said it a few months ago or a few weeks ago on this program. So we should never have made it compulsory for people to take the vaccine because as soon as we realised that the COVID jabs did not stop the spread, as some were trying to tell us it would...

then what was the point of forcing people to get the jab? It was ridiculous overreach. And, you know, I myself was part of the crowd in trying to ensure people got vaccinated because I thought it was somehow my duty to society. But I was wrong too. 131873. Now, there's been some dramatic scenes coming out of Bangladesh and their Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina.

She's resigned and fled the country after weeks of violent protests. So thousands of anti-government protesters defied a military curfew yesterday and stormed the Prime Minister's official residence in the capital of Dhaka. So have a listen to the crowds as they storm through the Prime Minister's house. So they're in the Prime Minister's official residence. It's frightening, right?

So not long after, Prime Minister Shea Cassino was seen boarding a military helicopter with her sister and Military Chief General Waka Uzuman made the announcement of her stepping down on state television.

The Prime Minister has resigned. Now we will run our work by forming an interim government. Have some patience, give us some time. Working unitedly, we'll be able to resolve all problems. Don't go for conflict anymore and come back to the path of peace. A translation thanks to the BBC. So it ends another 15 years in power for Prime Minister Hasina.

And the protests have been going on since June, but it all came to a head this weekend where at least 95 people, including 14 police officers, died in a violent clash at the capital on Sunday. So whether or not an interim government can be established is clear. Something needs to change in Bangladesh. Very disturbing. I know we've got quite a large Bangladeshi population here in Sydney who would have family members seeing that carnage.

Well, it's been another hold from the RBA today. So rates will remain steady at 4.35%, where it stayed since November of last year. So good news for mortgage holders. We're all itching for the day when we hear about an interest rate cut. But persistently high inflation is the reason rates remain where they are. And Michelle Bullock, the RBA governor, did say in a press conference that today they talked about hiking rates.

But an interest rate cut is not on the agenda and not part of the RBA board's thinking in the near term. The fact is that the progress on bringing inflation down has been very slow for a year now. And while growth of demand has been slow, there's actually no guarantee that supply and demand will return to balance quickly enough. So what we really need to see is the underlying pulse of inflation, and we sort of look at that as the trim mean, to start to come down further.

Because the longer inflation remains elevated, the more it hurts everyone, all Australians. So we really need to stay the course in this to try and bring inflation back down by slowing the growth in demand. Well, Treasurer Jim Chalmers, he won't want to hear that. Here's his reaction. This is a welcome decision from the Reserve Bank because it recognises the pressures that people are under, the progress we've made on underlying inflation, but also the severe effects

market volatility we've seen and global economic uncertainty more broadly. Australians are doing it tough enough already. The last thing they needed today was more cost of living pressure. Yeah, well, Treasurer Jim Chalmers, that might be the case, but it sounds like Michelle Bullock, the Governor and the RBA Board, is not thinking the same way as the Treasurer is thinking, nor the Government is thinking.

And it looks like inflation probably won't come down until the end of 2025, the end of next year. It won't get to where they want it to get to. So whose fault is that ultimately? So ultimately you will have inflation running at a higher level than is sustainable or than the Reserve Bank is happy with for far longer than other developed countries around the world. Is that the RBA's fault?

Or is it the government's fault? I'd hazard a guess that it's probably a mixture of both. 131873. So here's an interesting one. I got a call from my bank the other day. And it was one of those moments that makes you stop and think, what's going on here? Now, the whole thing started off just like any other routine call, right? Hello, this is blah from your bank. And it was a cold call. It was either trying to follow something up or sell me something. I don't know. I didn't get that far. But this is the reason I didn't get that far.

Because the person on the other side of the phone wanted me to confirm my details. Shouldn't it be the other way around? I asked them on the phone, hang on a second, I didn't contact you. Why would I give you my date of birth and address? And the person told me, look, it's the law. We need to identify you. I'm from your bank. And before we can continue this phone call, I need to be satisfied it is you, Christopher O'Keefe.

And I said, hang on, I don't know who you are. I will not be telling you my date of birth and address. Call ended there. How can I trust them? In an age where identity theft is rampant and scams are as common as a morning coffee, shouldn't I be the one asking for their identification? It's my sensitive information we're talking about and I'm supposed to what? Just take their word for it.

So I read an article in the Herald that piqued my interest on this today by Noel Whittaker, and he talks about this as the know your customer or KYC principle. It's legislation, and he describes it as a nasty weed in our financial system.

It also doesn't have any common sense applied to it. Because I spoke to a conveyancer the other day, a conveyancer we've used for years and years and years, right? They know me well, they know Vonnie well, yet I still needed to fill out 100 points of ID for something very basic I wanted them to do. Slow and painful administration for what?

Look, I'm not saying we should toss out all of our current security measures and start from scratch, but it does seem like there is a glaring need for a bit of common sense in the process. When a bank calls you, they should be prepared to verify their identity just as thoroughly as they expect us to. Because whether it's a dodgy text message, email or a phone call, scammers, especially with artificial intelligence these days and fake voices and the rest of it,

You just can't trust any of it anymore. So forgive me if I say no thank you when someone cold calls me, even if they are 100% genuine,

If they ask me for my key identifying details when I have absolutely no idea who they are. Have you confronted something like this? 131873. The person on the other side of the phone call was very, very put off by my reluctance to say, no, thank you. But guess what? Tough. I'm not risking it.

It's 23 past five, I've just noticed this on the Instagram of Stuart Ayres, former member for Penrith, now the CEO of UDIA, and he's just put this up, it's very, very funny. So they've got a gold medal tally, right? People's Republic of China, 21, United States of America, 20, Australia, 13, and it goes down to sort of Italy, 9, Canada, 5, Penrith, 3. Ha ha ha ha!

The Fox girls with three gold. Penrith, three. Yeah, well, you'll probably add in another NRL premiership too. Good on you, Stu. 131873. Well, a US judge has ruled that Google is a monopoly and it's in a key case in the United States. And Google has been hit with this major legal blow, effectively saying that Google has...

done its absolute darndest to ensure it remained a monopoly. So the district court judge found that Google maintained a monopoly for search and for text ads through exclusive distribution agreements that made it the default option for people that were likely to use on devices.

And it says this, quote, this is what the Chief Justice, District Court Judge said, Google is a monopolist and it has acted as one to maintain its monopoly. The internet behemoth has had a major, largely unseen advantage over its rivals and that is default distribution. So whether or not Google, I don't know what they have to pay or any compensation or the like, but regardless...

At least a court has upheld exactly what we all know. Google is really the only search engine in town and has been for a really long time. I remember the start of the internet, remember? Ask Jeeves and all those sort of search engines that were around. Yet nowadays, it's just Google and it has been like that for at least a decade, 131873. Just being cold called by someone purporting to be your bank, and they could be genuine, and then asking for your personal information...

Was I right to say, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not handing that over because I cannot be sure that you are actually a representative from my bank. Lorraine's at Liverpool. Hello, Lorraine. Hi, Chris. How are you? I'm good, thank you. Have you had an experience of this?

Yes, I have, and not only from a bank, from state agents, from people that want you to buy stuff. So much so, I mean, I even got a few tonight before I left home. I'm on my way to do a community desk at the JP. And I just don't even answer my landline anymore. Right. It just goes to message, and when the message kicks in, they usually hang up.

Yeah. Lorraine, I've gotten two this afternoon while I'm on air, and every time I let it go through to voice, to text or whatever, it's trying to tell me it's some Chinese epidemic mob. So, you know, it just never ends. And I reckon everybody in Australia at the moment must be just getting hammered by these scam calls. Lorraine, I really appreciate your time. Thank you for your call. Sarah's at Cecil Hills. Hello, Sarah. Hi, Chris. How are you? I'm good, thank you. What's your experience?

I get those calls all the time. They absolutely drive me crazy. But also, the one that annoys me the most is they call, they call me and they hang up. I'm like, hang on, why do you call me? Anyway, but what I was calling to tell you, I was recently met up with my Dutch niece who brought up a very, I think, valid point, is that their drivers... You know how you're talking about identity theft?

Their driver's licence does not display their address on it.

And she was saying, she's like, if a cop pulls you over, if you have an accident and, you know, they need to contact somebody, then the authorities can access the database and have your address. So why is your address on your license? That's so weird. And I'm like, you know, it makes identity theft so much easier if you lose your license or someone gets hold of it because they have your date of birth, your address, your name, you know, all that. But if the address wasn't there and they tried to...

do something with it, then they won't know the address. That's a good point. It's a very, very good point, Sarah. And, you know, I think that we need to start thinking more about this. But, you know, the government's the biggest data harvester of all. So maybe they don't care that much. Sarah, I really appreciate your call. I'm going to go to Dave at Greystains. Hello, Dave. How are you going, Chris? I'm good, thank you.

I had the same experience a couple of weeks ago. A lady with a Filipino accent ringing me and saying, I'm from ANZ Plus, which is one of their little investment offshoots. We've got some important information, but first I have to verify your identity. Can you tell me your name and your date of birth? And I said, hey, it's exactly the same. You've rung me and you're asking me these questions. That's not right. I don't just give out my information.

And she said, yeah, I can understand, but we can't go any further without identifying you. I said, well, look, if you are who you say you are, you've got my email details. Send me an email and I'll get in touch with you that way. She said, okay, no worries. Sorry to bother you. And I thought it sounds like a scam. So I actually rang them. I got their number and rang them direct and found out that it was. They said that my card had been compromised. It was a scam, wasn't it? No.

No, it wasn't a scam. It was a legitimate phone call. Yeah, right. Okay. But it's the same thing. You don't know who they are. A lady with a Filipino accent asking me for all my details. A cold call. 100%, Dave. 100%. And you know what? I felt bad for doing it. I was like, look, this person could have something really important to tell me, but if it's that important, well, it can wait. I don't know who you are. I'm not telling you my driver's license numbers and my date of birth and where I live. It's not going to happen.

Hey, Dave, I've got a double pass to total legends at the Sydney Coliseum at Rudy Hill. Darryl Braithwaite, Marsha Hines, baby animals. It'll be a bit of fun. They're coming your way, Dave. Let's go to Andrew at Helensburg. G'day, Andrew. Yeah, g'day. What's your experience? Well, I'm getting a lot of these calls in the last, well, almost every week now, about two or three times a week about bloody solar panel remakes. Oh, it's a punish, isn't it?

Yeah, and it's like, they ask me these questions, it's like, oh, do you own your house? And they're thinking, if they know my name, which is rather scary, they should know my living situation that I'm renting. Well, Andrew, look, not to cast aspersions, but they're almost always Indian, right?

Yeah, look, it is just a scam. The solar panel scheme is a joke. I take the mickey out of them. If I get them on the line, I give them Driver Avenue Moor Park as my address, which is the Sydney cricket ground.

or Goulburn Street, Sydney, which is the Australian Federal Police Headquarters, and I say put the solar panels on there, and if they start asking me about the cricket ground, I ask them, who's better, Sachin Tendulkar or Virat Kohli? And they won't shut up. They'll keep you on the phone for 10 minutes. Good on you, Andrew. 131873.

In the newsroom, Josh Bryant. G'day. Good afternoon again, Chris. A teenager has now been charged with attempted murder following a stabbing at City University last month. The Reserve Bank has kept interest rates on hold amid an uncertain global economic outlook and inflation still sitting on the higher end. The former Premier Dominic Perrottet says he believes vaccine mandates during the pandemic were the wrong call in his farewell speech to State Parliament.

and Australia's last direct link to the rats of Tobruk has died just shy of his 103rd birthday. Victorian-born Tom Pritchard was among 14,000 people who held the Libyan port against Germany during the Second World War. In sport, North Sydney Bears coach Pat Wisen has been served with a breach notice for allegedly attempting to bet on the outcome of matches.

He'll face a hearing of the New South Wales Rugby League tomorrow night. We'll have more news in sport at six. Thanks, Josh. Steve's raised a very good point on this. Chris, if someone purporting to be Powerball called at 9pm on a Thursday night, would you hand over your details? Steve, probably. And now, a weather update.

Right now, 14 degrees in the city and 14 in the west. Temperatures tonight will dip to 8 in the city and 4 in our west. Chilly tonight, tomorrow sunny, tops of 19 in the city tomorrow and 19 in the west.

Thanks to Red Energy. Cozy up to a better energy deal this winter. Make the switch today at redenergy.com.au. Well, there are some light sprinkles of snow that will gradually clear about the resorts for the start of the week, meaning pristine, clear conditions for hitting the slopes through Wednesday.

And with a familiar cold front crossing to the south late Thursday, some late sprinkles of snow overnight will make for a beautiful ski field on Friday morning. All four lifts are currently open at Charlotte Pass. Perisher has 43 of the 48 lifts open. 14 of the 16 are open at Threadbo today. And in Selwyn, five of the nine lifts are now open. That was the ski and snow update thanks to Red Energy.

A finance update. Enjoy impossible-to-ignore savings across the Mercedes-Benz SUV range. Well, the All Ords closed up 0.39% today at 7,890.1. A little bit better of a day. ASX 200 is up 0.41% 7,680.6. One Aussie dollar currently buying 65.08 US cents.

Hi, everyone. Adam Hawes here with an Olympic update.

Day 11 is underway in Paris with Australia looking to add to its haul of 13 gold medals. Naomi Fox the latest to celebrate victory winning the women's kayak cross. The youngest sister of paddling legend Jessica Fox says it still doesn't feel real. It feels like a dream, it feels, I don't know, it's just, I can't believe it's mine you know, it's still, I'm like is it Chester's? No.

But no, it's mine and I think it's years of hard work and today just planned out to perfection. Coming up, a huge game for the Boomers against Serbia in the men's basketball quarter-finals. Sailor Matt Wern is looking for back-to-back gold medals in the men's dinghy final. Skateboarders Arisa and Ruby True will be on display in the Women's Park preliminaries.

In the Belladrome, Australia has set the fastest qualifying time in the men's pursuit. To the medal tally and the Aussies are fourth with 13 gold, 12 silver and 8 bronze. The USA is leading the way with 21 gold. I'm Adam Hawes, that's the latest from Paris. That Paris 2024 medal tally was thanks to Woolworths, proud fresh food partner of the Australian Olympic and Paralympic teams.

Thank you, Horsey. Now, if you know anything about Manly Surf Club, it's in dire need of repair, a renovation. But there's a new plan to build a new Manly Surf Club and some locals absolutely hate it. I'll speak to a life member of the club next.

Now, I want to hear from you if you're a Manly local. If you live on the northern beaches, give us a call 131873. Not only if you're a Manly local, but if you go to Manly at all, you surely would have been confronted with the Manly Surf Club there. It's right in the guts of Manly Beach. But the proposed demolition of Manly Surf Club is sparking a bit of a debate, especially amongst locals.

So the plan is tear down the old clubhouse and replace it with a brand new $15 million surf club. Not everyone's happy about it, though, because you've seen some locals voice their concerns. They don't want to see the existing club bulldozed. And their main complaint is that the new concept design, we'll put it on our website, 2GB.com, but the new design is ugly and is a case of overdevelopment.

Now, it is a concept, this new design, but we can do better than that. It's not much to look at. Nevertheless, Manly Surf Club is one of Australia's oldest surf clubs, established all the way back in 1911.

The current clubhouse has been open since 1982 and it's only had a handful of renovations in 42 years. And whichever way you're going to want to go, it needs some work done to it and some money spent on it. Shane is a life member of the Manly Surf Club and he joins me on the line. G'day, Shane.

Good afternoon, Chris. How are you? I'm really well, mate. Thank you for coming on. So are you for or against this new club? Oh, I'm definitely for the club, the poor old club. It's falling down. We can have, you can, you could try and refurbish it.

But I'm a plumber in the industry of building, and sometimes that sort of thing costs a lot more than it does to just knock it down. If you actually walk around, you'll see the joints of cement, joints are falling apart and all sorts of things. So we really do need a... We're technically the oldest surf life-saving club in Australia.

And we have, for example, 1,800 members, 953 of those are male, 852 are female. We've got 590 nippers. So we just need a new club because the club, when it was built back in those years, wasn't designed for that many people.

And we're not actually taking up any more of the footprint when it's all said and done. Just not giving ourselves a whole new building. It's not in good nick at the moment, is it? It's not in very good nick at all, no. We have a lot of repairs here all the time. You know, here, there and everywhere. And at some stage, you just can't keep doing that. You know, you've just got to... It's like a house.

If your house starts to fall apart, people seem to just knock the houses down now because it's quicker and cheaper and easier to build a new one than it is to try and put the other one back together. But also Shane, it's Manly Beach. This is one of Australia's most iconic pieces of coastline. And every time I've been down there for as long as I've been alive, I've looked at Manly Surf Club and thought, we can do better than that.

Yeah, yeah. And look, let me say too, we have something like nearly just over 11,000 hours of patrolling during the season. This is all by volunteers. We have rescues, preventative actions, all sorts of things. We have a lot of instructing of volunteers where they go on and they do their first, their bronze, and then they go on and do advanced first aid and advanced resuscitation, and then they go into the boats. Our job is all volunteers. Remember, this is all volunteers.

And it's fantastic. And we compete a lot too. We're very well known as a very competitive club. Okay, so why the opposition? Why are people opposing it?

Look, I don't know. It's just like a lot of things, I suppose. A lot of people don't like change. And look, I'm not a youngster myself, so I don't like to change a lot. But some things just have to change sometimes. On the whole Northern Beaches, we're pretty much the only club that's never been rebuilt properly, you know, from the ground up. And yes, maybe they could make a few adjustments to the facade of the building. There's a few concrete sections. I'm not sure. That's not my...

place to order against. So that's for the architects and the committees to work those sorts of things out. But in general, it's on the same footprint. So where is it at at the moment? In terms of the development process, where is it at? Well, the council have put the thing on their website. So the council, the state government, federal government, they're all going to put some funds in for this. And it's just now got to go through that de-investigation

DA level, I suppose, you know, the next level of getting through and see who's going to whinge and scream too much about it. Who's whinging the worst? Oh, who knows? I suppose it's local people. I don't know. But some of them may think they're going to lose some of their views, but that would be very, very few and very, very small loss of view, I would have thought. But we're not trying to intrude on anyone. We're just trying to give us a building so that we can have this many members.

and continue to patrol the beaches and keep everyone safe. That's what we like to do. Anyone still alive in and around Manly, Shane, who predates the surf club, given it was established in 1911?

No, but the first president was Tony Bonner. Do you remember Tony Bonner from Skippy? Yeah. The first president and life member was his grandfather. And then his father was president. And then Tony's been a president about four or five times. And he's a life member. What I'm saying, Shane, is there's nobody who lives around there. They bought in there knowing the surf club was there. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. It's been there all night. It's like Luna Park, isn't it, where they built the buildings behind Luna Park? Yeah, of course. It's like people buying next to a pub and complaining that there's beer, you know? Come on. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we'll get a lot of that, don't we? Yeah, we do. All right, Shane. Well, all the best with it. Look, it'll be a process, but given the state of the Manly Surf Club, given where it is...

surely you'll get some sort of outcome and it'll be a negotiated one, hopefully. So all the best. Thank you very much. Thanks, Chris. No, you're very welcome. That's Shane, a life member of Manly Surf Club. Now over to you. What do you make of it? 131873. If you live in Manly, are you for or against the new surf club there?

Give me a call. Looking at the designs, sure, it can be improved, but I think overall, the club, well, they need a new one. They need a new facility. It's apparent to anyone who's been down there lately. Drive with Chris O'Keefe on to GB. All right, who wants to win some free petrol? It's all thanks to Shell V-Power, the jewel for fuel. 131873 if you'd like some free petrol. Give us a call. We'll do it next.

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It just came out. You a fan? I'm not a fan of jalapenos. No, it depends. I don't like spicy stuff. I like jalapenos. I don't necessarily like the pickled versions, though. I don't mind the fresh ones. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I'm anti-hot stuff. Are you? Yeah.

I've been told that the big man was talking about kumquats the other day. Is this true? Yeah, a couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah. So you know there's been a bloke walking around southwest Sydney in little fabric bags with a note saying, from New South Wales Health, here's a gift for you. Kumquats. Hundreds of letterboxes. Why? I don't know. Was it the big part?

Widow. That seems very strange. Isn't it, Charles? The police arrested him yet? Here's a message from the police. What are you doing, you fool? Widow. No junk mail. We need a new sign on the letterboxes. No kumquats. What about on the gold medal tally? I was having a look. Penrith on three. The Fox family on fire. This is...

Isn't that a great story? Penrose had as many gold medals as the Kiwis. Such a good story. And they had a big support crew watching. And yeah, that's probably one of the highlights of the games for mine. First Olympics, she goes out there. Everybody jumped in the water with her afterwards as well. Fantastic. Well done. What about how violent it is?

It gets feral. Doesn't it? Actually, you know what? Clinton Maynard described it best. It's dodge them cars on water. It's exactly what it is. 100%. They're fit, mate. One of the Aussie men, I don't know whether it was Tim or Tristan, he got a paddle to the head, so he had some claret coming from his head after the race.

lookalike you'd gone 10 rounds with Mike Tyson. What are the rules? Can you deliberately paddle someone? There are no rules. Let's just get to the bottom as fast as you can. And get round those things. But what I've realised, having covered it the last couple of days with the team, it's all about the start. You've got to hit the water and just go hammer and tong and try and pinch a break. But what Nomi did was she went the right side of the course, got into that slipstream, and away she went, and she won the gold medal. It was a great story.

What's on the show tonight? Well, there's a fair bit happening. We'll be crossing to the main stadium over the next hour because we've got the 1,500 metres on and a few Australians involved there. So Ray, Matt Hill and Jane Fleming will be there for us. We've got a big game of basketball coming up. The Boomers taking on Serbia in quarterfinals. So Andrew Gaze will have a look at that one. Kerry Potthast, of course, Aussies in action in the quarterfinals of the beach volleyball following in the footsteps of Potthast and Cook from Sydney 2000.

And Stuart O'Grady, the six-time Olympian and cycling gold medalist, to preview another big day at the Velodrome in Paris. So you said yesterday we'd get three more gold medals. Yep. We've got one. Where's our next two coming from? Matt Wern in sailing today. Hopefully a gold medal. He leads the standing, so he's just got to fend off one of his challengers.

And I reckon we're a big chance of a gold medal in the boxing later in the week as well. Caitlin Parker. Caitlin Parker. Yeah, right. XY or X? Oh, don't start. Goodbye. See you later. That's Mark Levy coming up next with Wired World of Sports. That's it from me. I'll see you at 3 p.m. tomorrow. Bye-bye.