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The 2024 Olympics Spectacular

Publish Date: 2024/7/23
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this is 99 percent invisible im romanmars weircurrentlyjust 2 days away from the start of the 2024 summer Olympics in Paris and ifyoucouldnalready tell from the tv commercials, the branded sota cans and the Emily imperest spongcon the Olympics are once again everywhere so in the olympexperience we are bringing you for stories about the games in all their international theatrical glory starting with one from 99 percent visible supervising producer Chris for Johnson hello, Chris for Johnson what do you have me?

today hello Roman Mars so this summer for the first time ever there be Olympic level breakdancing its officially call breaking and its the first ever so called dance sport to happen in summer Olympics history wow, i did not know that thats very exciting i agree i support all things breakdancing especially because im a hair pop head but breaking is not like running or swimming or throwling stuff its not your typical Olympics sport and this got me thinking as unusual as Olympic breakdancing might seem it can not be the odest event to ever be in the games and i was right OK so tell me more OK so first of all i need you to know that many of the weirdest Olympics sports in history came into being way back before the Olympics were considered the pinacle of professional athletics those earliest Games were actually mint for ameers the modern games were started in 896 by this frontured ristocrat named Pierre Dekuber Tim this guyslifeis is a whole story in itself you should look him up but basically the Olympics were his dream he pitched it in lectures all over friends like lets all get together and play sports and then handoutmetals in trofies and these sports were defining not for professional athletes these were for like average amazers exactly, these were mostly amechers and when the Olympics began the spirit of the games was hardcore。

ameurism so at that point, the one offs and the crazy and all sorts of focus just show up i talk to David goal black who wrote a book called the games!

a global history of the Olympics and he told me just how casual the earliest Olybay Games were i mean in 1896 at the Athens Games the first Games the guys that won the Pistol competition a two brothers from Harvard and there are holiday so these guys just rolled up to the Olympics pistol event like hey, yo, we have guns we can shoot they just showed up they have that pistoles with them of course。

you know as everybody does when they travel in the nineteen century。

i make trick for OK so so when the first moderolympics people could just like walk on off the street and they could participate exactly sanding and the fact that the Olympics were new and experimental and not at all about being a pro that opened the door to all sorts of sports beingin those earlygames for example, in the second ever Olympic Games, one of the events was firefighting oh, my goodness how how do that work so they lit a house on fire and you had to put that out and then you had to do a fake rescue wow!

the 19 games also had this aquatics event where you go underbotes and then overbotes and then under some more boys optical swimming is a promise and you had are swimmers diving off boats that have been more than the river and they would swim you know twenty meters and then they would have to either go under a second set of boat to come out the other side or sometimes they had to climb into the boat and then dive off back into the river and this is all happening on the same i lord nice what the condition of the wolser was other events from the 18 games include hot air。

balloon, racing and crok and cannon shooting can you imagine canonshooting in the Olympics so so of amearnyright?

the 192 games specifically was the one with so many great unusual events yes!

but check this out one reason these Olympics have so many random events may very well be because the 19 games were really actually, factually, officially recognized as the Olympics at least not until like eighty years later okay!

so what do you mean by that?

so in 100, the Olympics was just in its second year and it wasnt its own established standalone thing yet so they had a just glomedon to the worlds fair, which was also happening in Paris at the same time and the worlsphere people really didnt know what the hell the Olympics even were some focus thought it was this weird neo Helen it cult nobody really knew that the Olympics were going on there were no posters with Olympic insigmary around the press refer to it as the the international games or you know they didnt quite know what to do with it the nineteen hundred games were also an outlier in much of Olympic history because instead of lasting just two weeks those games lasted five whole months wow, and they had more than double the events that we have today and in the end, the ioc had to go back eighty years later and decide, which of those weirdo events were even gonna count any Olympic records it was only in the ninepatis that actually a definitive list of who one?

what what events were Olympicon, which one would join up by the ioc im one event that most definitely was not considered Olympic was the fire fighters yeah!

huge mistake huge mistake all the agree rested peace fire fighting in the Olympics but but but listen!

listen the fun Olympics sports didnt end with nothing and in fact what are those sports put the unit states at the center of an Olympic scandal and that sport was tug of war tok of war is an absolutely fantastic spor i cant believe actually that we dont still have a in the Olympics so you might think of tag of war as something you did as part of fieldday when you were growing up like right after the sacraces before running with an Egon a spoon but in the early nineteen hundreds targowar Roman Mars was hot so hot!

it was in five summer games i mean this is also strikes me is super fun to watch you get all these like gigantic andrethegiant like with the singlet on you like Russia Mania threes style you know like just like pulling on things you just get your biggest dudes in the whole country exactly it is it is everything thats your pictureingits like you know between five and eight guys the numbers change over time on each side pulling for their lives its basic!

its straightforward its primal but for such a simple sport Olympic tag of war got a little spicy Roman lots of little scandals along the way the ninewrite games in London uh a probably the best example of that youve got um a yeah a British team and an American team contest thing the Americans is basically a scratch team its like the restless and the heavy guys from the field events and theyputtogether and theyre going against the Brits who have a legit tug of war team hmm theyre all members of the liverpoolcity police and theyre hellostrong theybeen training a lot toggle war is what they do but the relage that the Brits of god is that these guys show up in their workboots and theyve got still capped hills and you can imagine given how talk of war works that is giving you a real edge over a bunch of guys who are wearing that tractions that is the American side there at this huge disavanage the level pull team absolutely crushed them the Americans of course。

incentive this count possibly be in the rules the Americans contested they were overrolled the Brits one and the Americans apparently left in a half what i love about this moment is that the American Sports press?

which is just kind of finding its high pabolic voice at this moment in history, im writes about the event and the New York evening post said of the city of livable police are boots they had inch thick souls on were heavier than those war in the English Navy while the New York evening world thought the boots were as big as north river fairy Boyz by the way at that same Olympics?

another British Targowar team, the city of London police team they later challenge the Americans to a match in just their socks any Americans said no thanks OK, so theyproperanywhat was up right right you see you see how it is yeah exactly no now now obviously sadly we no longer have Olympic level targowar again criminal shame totally right um we also dont have optical swimming or can in shooting come on most of them disappeared pretty quickly once the Olympics became the professionalized event that we know it to be today, but that doesnt that we lost all interesting sports because theres a whole other category knowns as demonstration sports i think i have some idea what those are but could you describe demonstration sports to me sure so those are essentially sports from specific regions in the world that arent meant to be official sport just yet i kind of just played for show and to promote the international spirit of the games that choising by the host unusually。

its an opportunity to showcase a sport that is not globally particularly well known, but which you know is important to that nation so for example。

theres the sport called Glima, which is basically Viking wrestling that was a demosport in 192 later, you get Swedish gymnastics, which she didnt existed theres corefball, which shine for a couple years the nineteen twos but some events do eventually become permanent fixtures of the Olympics so in 1964 for example。

Judo become i are demonstration sport and in the case of Judo and this is also truth taiquando first introduced us a demonstration sport by the south Koreans at the nineteen eighty eight solo Olympics they then go on to be permanent Olympic sports i mean that is nice that they can introduce new things and then have them be adopted as more more of the world takes them on as no longer regional sports so screen i mean do we have any cool demosports this year that year whereof sadly we do not the last demo games included in the Olympics were actually Wayback in 192?

which had Several Games including Roller Hocky well!

if we dont get any demosport at least, we have breaking to look forward to um, thats thats gonna be exciting well, thank you so much for this uh Christopher!

i i had fun same here Roman Mars your welcome!

when a city host the Olympics, they have to construct 8 ton of new buildings like an entire villains to housethe athletes and a tracking field, stadium and a specialday venue for bicycle races and the list can get very long sometimes those structures endoutbeing a fixture of Civic life for years to come like the London Stadium, which now hostsocker games or the Atlanna athletes village, which has been converted into studenthousing, but there are also venues that become white elepance blooming over the skyline and offering grim reminders of the highcost of two weeks of fun, such as the case in Montreal Canada host of the nineteen 76 summer Olympics here spruce Chris Brubay the Montreal Olympics were the brainchild of John drappo and i think its fair to say when it comes to big citymares。

they dont make em like drappo anymore johndrappo served asmer twice between 1954 in 1986 he wasnvery intimidating he was kind of diminuative, always had these big square glasses and this of the time mustash beturing his hotly debated 29 yearsinoffice John Repo had big ambitions he used to drive around Montreal on a limited blasting arias by record boggner and stopping to talk with constituentson admiresomeoftheworkseedcommissioned even notorano overtook Montreal as candidas biggecity in the seventies, drappo insisted that his town would always be the greatest let toranto become Milan, drappo once said, because Montreal will always be Rome enduring his earlyyears as mere the city did go on quite a hot street manage to Russell up a subway system, a majorly baseball team, a worldsphere and inamasterstroke the summerolympics of 1976 somehow beating out both Moscow and Los Angeles for the honor, fordrappo the Olympics would cement Montreal as candidas greatest Metropolis, but he facesome pointed questions like how exactly are we supposed to before all of this drappo was unphased by the criticism, he famously promise voters the Olympic Games could know more run a deficit than a man could have a baby and if youthinking hey thats kind of a weird thing to say i wonder if those words would come back to hunt him in some way perhaps yougesthe outcome here but those wordswould 100 percent comeback to haunt him, oftheproposed 20 million dollarbudget for the Olympics more than half was reserved just for constructing Olympics stadium it was designed to have this unique donut shape giving it the nickname the big o and it promised to be stateoftheart with a retractable roof that would kindlook like a big white tortoshell the closeable roof was a novelty at the time and the idea was that sports could be played there after the games during montrealsbruodle winters, but the most distinct feature of the Olympic Stadium would be A50 44 tower that would arch over the field a day dramatic 45 degrees slant a tower was an unusual thing to add to a Stadium the drappo was insistent he wanted it to be like the eifultower an icon that everybody conjured when they heard the name Montreal but reviews were mixed years later, a columnist for the Montreal gazet jacktad would call the stadium designspacestaged fascist whenconstruction began on the big o, the problem started pretty much right away construction kicked off eighteen months late, and then it got delayed again by a workerstrike that wiped out most of nineteen 75 thatleft just one year to finish the project before the thing was supposed to open against all odds drapples grand Olympic Stadium was finally finished right before, the games well as sort of finished the state of the art retractable roof it wasnt ready neither was dropos big tower not even close only the very bottom was completed so on openingday the tower was still just a stump with some wires poking out of the top it just sat there like this puny concrete tree trunk despite all this the games for the most part went pretty well people won metals the city got some nice press but when you talk to montrydollars about the nineteen 76 Olympics nobody leads with the athletes or the fanfare, they only want to talk about the hangover, at the time of the games some estimates put the cost of the Stadium at over 500 million dollars just way over budget, but the worst was yet to come after the Olympics the Stadium became the new home of the Montrial exposed baseball team, which was kind of perfect because the spoils had been playing any make shifballfieldenimunicival park before that and they needed the upgrade but my god the bigger was a horrible place to watch baseball i remember how sound used to echo offthe concrete walls and the hideest yellow plastic seeds and the astatics were the least of their problems the big dramatic tower that was finished in 1977, but it was clearly something of a rush job at one point years later, there was an explosion in the tower and chunks of steel fell off during a game thankfully, nobody, but the biggest headtic was the retractable proof thatwasncompleted until 1987 afull 10 yearsoverdue and a put abblankly, the roof was not very good at being a roof it was made of kevor and one time when it range drops pierced through the tarp soaking everybody in the crowd then the roof was hid by a tornado in 191, whichtorbunch, a holsenit and the same year, a support beam collapsed and the team had to play the rest of their games on the road eventually, they gave up on the whole state of the art retractable thing and the roof it just became a normal roof, but that didnt fix much a couple of times snowbuilt up over the winter and causesmall cavins gosh i cannot get into all of the calamities that happened with this roof babojada pitcherfor the la dogors putitly this roof even when the thing worked it didnt work thecityfinally paid off its Olympic debt in 206 thirty years after the games and while estimates very if you countupall the stadium chenanigans the final price tag for the Montreal Olympics was over one point two billion dollars today the stadiums not even home to the Montreal expose they left town in 2004, but the Biggo is still standing according to the provincial government, it would just cost way too much to tear it down so instead theyre going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to make it better the culture minister says the city actually needs a major concern venue maybe taylorswifter beyonse a could play there since both of them skipped Montreal on their last world tour so the leaning tower in the concrete ring they are goinganywhere they remain this potent symbol mockingeverybody who thought this futuristic donut could ever be the chebacum johndrappo was wrong about a lot of things about the Olympics paying for themselves about who he hired to build the stadium about how he would be remembered but he was right about this nothing really looks like the bigo and when i think of Montreal, i cant really imagine the city without it。

theres release one day, one event when an Olympic stadium is on full display and that event is the opening ceremony it is a highstates moment where a lot can go right or Barry Barry wrong heres 99 pi supervising producer Vivian layer with the story about the opening ceremony to change all open in ceremonies unfortunately many animals were harmed to the making of the story yes!

so Roman this pretty horrible thing happened during the solo Olympics in South Korea and i will admit that when i first learned about this horrible thing, i did immediately think this is a nine pi story what OK?

oh, no im nervous OK?

OK, so just to set the scene theear is 198 its a beautiful sunny day in soul uh, in the stance of soul Olympic stadium is a sea of perms and aviator sunglasses uh?

hundreds of drums and synchronized dancer just performed on the field, but at leads just finish marching out on the track for the creative Nations oh!

is my favorite part all the flags yes!

all the all the flags, all the Germans in silly hats the the Olympic flag has just been raised to possibly the most dramatic music ever written, the 240 doves of peace have just been released while five jets simultaneously skyright the Olympic rings over the crowd it was a scene, which leads us all into the pivotal moment of the opening ceremony, which is the lighting of the Olympic flame uh so the torch was just carried into the Stadium by a semi six year old sunkey Jung who was actually the first ethnic Korean to win an Olympic metal half a century earlier and hes running the flame over to the Olympic culdrin, which is this absolutely massive structure that looks maybe a hundredfeed all and so you know the torch bears have to be raised slowly on this platform up to the caldron to light, the flame and i am actually just going to play you the video of what happened next so you could see it for yourself OK?

OK so there been raised up to the platform as little elevator theyre about ten feet away and theres three torch bearers and theyre facing the crowd theyre not facing the Calderon but the calderen is full of birds like theyre birds。

theyre turning around and theyre about the light and they have no idea whats happen oh, my god oh, she OK the thing called oh some of oh no, oh no yeah they go yeah the few of them made it out but but several, several did not you can really tell yeah oh my god, oh the humanity!

the humanity but yeah so of course, i feel terrible for the jobs like this is horrible to see um but i felt especially terrible for the torch bearers because like what are they gonna do like you know theyre theyre on this gigantic platform up in the sky yeah!

and from the from the video you can tell like the doves from the edges had somewhat dispersed yeah but also, when youre in front of that many people, it is really hard to ad lib or to change it up a little bit when you expected to do something extremely important all they have their hand is a lit torch but what are you going to do yeah?

its so unfortunate i feel so bad for everybody involved yeah you probably wouldnt know it from the video but the animal handlers actually trained for a year theyre supposed to you know fly in these widening circles over the field and then disperse into five different directions but i i a lot of them i guess landed on the olybit culturn yeah doing what duves do they land on things?

exactly theyre theys gonna doves are gonna dove yeah but yeah this this uh scene in which a number of doves uh being consumed by the Olympic flame happened in front of tens of millions of people around the world oh my god, the the other horrible part of this is that you know hosting the Olympics was a really really big deal for South Korea in general, because you know it had been a country that previously was rabaged by war and occupation and military dictatorship so this was gonna be the moment were you know they mark to new era for South Korea yeah!

i remember i was i was very aware of these Olympics i was a live and cognisant human being and these were big games they talked about this in the moment that they were a big deal for Korea and i can totally imagine like this is not the best look for this international symbol of peace getting torch any Olympic caldrin when i you know when youre trying to put your best foot for thats thats hard。

but i mean i i do want to say that the soul games on the whole were actually really really well received like this Olympics was seen as a really positive moment for the country history, but the international Olympic committee received so many complains about the doves being you know, like burned alive on television that they actually decided to change the charter for the opening ceremony, and although it had been a part of the Olympics since nineteen twenty, they said like no more livedups, not your done with the dups and i actually i do agree with this i dont think live animals dont be used to like these live situations because of what just happened uh, yeah!

i mean it makes a ton of sense to me that they should just do away with it after some horrific instant because like nobody wants animals to be harmed, but given how the Olympics is all kinds of things that dont make any sense to need theyre just like steeved in the tradition of the Olympics i can im actually surprised that they remove this whole protocol from the opening ceremony just you know!

because of how you know symbolically powerful doves are but also just how stubborn they are about their own traditions i mean like it just close my mind that they reacted so quickly well funny that you say that because they never technically did remove the dove release from the opening ceremony they just fully leaned into you know what you sub the symbolic nature of it and then pivoted entirely to a quota symbolic dev release what does a symbolic definites look like so uh the first Olympic Games to do this was actually the nineteen ninety four lillihammer Winter Olympics and actually fund fact the deverrelease practice had not actually been as much a part of the winter games, just because these games were usually hosted in like freezing cold cities that are inhospitable to live animals um make sense but that year in 1992 they perform the first symbolic to release by releasing white balloons oh okay okay on this have their own problems but i get make sense um so!

but what of other cities done since then so?

uh you know the next summer games the nineteen nine six Atlantic games they had one hundred children come running into the Stadium with you know paper machay doves on sticks so it look like they were fludering in the wind um the next couple games uh the two thousand games in Sydney and the two thousand four games and Athens they both feature projections of dubs, which i think honestly is a little bit of a cop out the two thousand 8 Beijing games actually!

went pretty hard yeah i mean the the entire Beijing Olympics was to went pretty hard so oh!

yeah yeah so like let the they had a women dress in white like doing a dance in flapping their arms like bird wings as there was dove projections in the background and then that was followed by a massive fireworks, which also represented doves that were shooting out of the Stadium OK, i think the two thousand London Olympics was my favorite interpretation they had seventy five white cloud cyclists were in led Wings circling the Stadium and i think is my favorite because having people on bikes being the dogs kind of mix absolutely no sense in that whole entire opening ceremony was just like a wacky feature aging and since then you know wehad the return of children this time they you know ran of the Stadium wielding dubshaped kites and then in the Tokyo Olympics there were thousands of paper dubs falling from the sealing to the music of Susan boil!

always before the lighting of the Olympic golden!

so uh that is how we have gotten passed the live deverlease in all the ceremony since then?

i you know even though this has important symbolism im kind of entreed by the idea that each host country has to come up with this whole new form of symbolism to approximate, dovesbean released like thats actually kind of cool that they can come of something original every time yeah!

yeah and you know um my city my home city that i live in Los Angeles is gonna be hosting the twenty twenty eight Olympics um which prefer us please grow that i really dont want them to do it here oh god but yeah, i mean the one thing is like Los Angeles is the city of entertainment its what we do yeah, uh so i guess if anybodyfrom the la twenty eight committee is listening uh try to do something cool for that symbolic dev release also, we need more public restroms before you guys come to essential its just think about that too i mean thats really which the focus should be yeah two hundred white toilets lining sidebooks yeah!

oh, my god of shaped public restrims all dotted around the landscape of Los Angeles it would be such a service twobirds with one stone Roman em telling you i know well thats this is awesome thank you so much first tell me about this can not drum that they have to deal with every four years thank you!

after breakaverage government has a very hot take above the future of the Olympics, wereback with one more story for you from Olympic Games passed and future and this one comes to us from articles of interest host in 99 percent invisible alum Avery trufflemen did do be back thank you for having me OK every here because you have a big idea about the Olympics and i would very much like for you to share that idea with us i have got i have got ive got a take that i like to whip out at a certain hour。

at a party to make people mad people like to fight me on this and i really dont understand because i think im right OK whats your proposal OK the Olympics should be increase every single time it should not move to different cities it should only be in one city and that city should be increase and i need more people to to beat the strum with me OK?

so tell me what what what is what is behind this proposal like what, what are you?

what problem are you trying to solve what problem i not try dissolve theres so many problems with the Olympics and i first had this idea back in 2016 when the Olympics were in were in Brazil and they were mowing down homes you know like favels were being destroyed to make way for these big fancy structures that were being erected with like dubious labor practices because i had to be made so quickly and the thought was just like well who is this for you know if if youdestroinghousing, so that visitors can come in and then leave like who it who is this actually for yeah and also, its not like the people in the city want the Olympics to come and change their traffic patterns and change their transit patterns and like disrupt everything yeah!

yeah i mean its clear that the Olympics is good for a very select group of regional oligargs and thats bad for almost everyone else i mean maybe you can get sict up about it because the Olympics actually like you know it inspires a certain type of like pride and in like yeah i love watching Olympics i know you love watching and link i love the Olympics i love the Olympics id propose this because i love the Olympics but it is extremely disruptive yes, what i mean i was in Athens Georgion Grad school during the 90 六 oblento Olympics like when they say in Olympics is in a city is kind of spreads out and so a few events like three or four events were in athenstorga and living through it was just misery and one of the parts that i really didnlike is the the local mersions were kind of sold align that they were gonna make tons of money and it turned out like no one really did and it just made things kind of miserable because some volunteered orange vas told you you couldnt drive we know like down a street that you job fast everyday in your life and this was A96 like nine eleven hadnt happened yet i cant imagine less like today so they are disruptive i totally get that if if you live in a city?

where the Olympics is being proposed im telling you like dont dont buy into any run its just misery like get out of town do a housewop yeah and then the other thing its its terrible for the athletes like why would they want to be uprouted into a totally new city every single time with a totally different climate and like not knowing their way around this job being an Olympic affliot it depends on having celebed well and eaten well and like being comfortable and if it were in the same place every four years and they could maybe go there to practice in the off season anyway, i think it would do what especially because the facilities that they erect two house the athletes are like an after thought after these really fancy Stadia and i the you know i forget which Olympics was but the but the Olympic village the atlas were sleeping in cardboard beds thats insane like it its not treating the actual athletes well if if its in a different place every time and theyexpected to come up with all this housing yeah yeah!

i mean theyre also really really expensive like the year a its, a its, a strange thing to build all these facilities so quickly and usually its done with poor labor practices its very very expensive, and you know its really hard for these cities to make their money back from their investment and they say its gonna be tourism!

but its not tourism because as you said kind of sucks when the Olympics are are taking over your your city, you know, yeah and if Greece were allowed to invest fully in state of the art facilities have them maintained, have them used, they could actually make money back yeah!

ittrue theyre not infulluse after the Olympic say you know, like its pretty rare for that to happen and therefore like building one thing maintaining it um taking care of it not updating it having the ioc funnel there money into it instead of local taxes being spent on it seems like a great idea i love it yes steady investment and then it i think it would allow for other teams from all over the world to just instead of like oh we need to update our equipment just pay for a plane or a trainticket to grease you know!

like they can have practice there and the offseason it would get full use like almost constantly and would be great for the local economy people would actually be spending time in whatever city this was so i i dont see what so controversial。

but what about this tradition of the bidding process like there certain instances were hosting the Olympics is such a proud moment for at least some people in the country like the regional Olympics the the opening ceremony was just beautiful an artistic and precise, and you could tell that the Chinese government was like we are going to put our best foot forward to just while everybody in the world with this but yeah!

i think thats thats also part of the problem theres such immense pressure for every host nation to like quickly, quickly, quickly up cleanup i mean we did that episode about the 68 Mexico Olympics?

were a bunch of protesters were shot at you know they were protesting the single party government a totally reasonable grievents peacefully protesting, and we dont even know the amount of the dead because they were quickly cleaned at the blood was washed from the streets so the Olympics could begin yes, sure sometimes its a great way to Harkin like arrival on the global scene, but its also way formations to like shove everything quickly under the bed and be like twoda weve made it and i think a better way to prove yourself in the Olympics is to take care of your athletesinwin things i dont know yeah yeah!

i mean like i think people think of it as this moment that it can catalyze a lot of infrastructional investments in a place however, those investments are geared towards this purpose。

which is not necessarily serving the public at large right exactly like to use the the Mexico sixty Olympics again like that was even a good example of infrastructure being added you know is like really responsible for the expansion of the Mexico subway system but still i mean it was designed, so that no one would have to speak Spanish to understand it was like geared for an international audience and so like i you know i obviously were all, were all for new infrastructure but the whole thing about infrastructure is it should be for the people who live there and the Olympics is not for the people who live there so why greases like why is that the place that you think it should be the center of office anywhere other than Greece would be cultural appropriation its great keep belongs a great like they did the ancient version they did the revived version we still you know the flame starts in Greece and they run it around the world its like so obviously belongi i dont know about the Winter Olympics that can maybe that can get bit every year but the summer relative figure out yeah that we are to figure but the but the summer Olympics one hundred percent belongs in Greece somewhere i mean a visit about it its like greases intellectual property thats being used and so yeah Grace also like why not it be a fun place for athletes to go visit like they get to know the restaurants they get to know the whatever local message therapists it would actually be good for the community because there would be more of an incentive to actually get to know it and it wouldnfeelso temporary i love it i think this is a great idea im sold rather than grabbing on to this like new tradition of the hosting in a different place every four years like embrace the old the old i know im like we must go back to the old way but i dont mean it that way but it increase just have a big Grace thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this im totally sold ive not ifi find no flaws in your argument whatsoever at this point thank you so much this is very validating!

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